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Guest Post: The Nazification Of America Is Almost Complete
Submitted by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,
Once upon a time America fought a great war to rid the world of the Nazis, but now we have become just like them. In fact, I would venture to say that the Nazification of the United States is pretty much complete.
As you will see below, we have a heavily socialized economy where tax rates are out of control and lots of freebies are given out just like the Nazis did. And just like the Nazis, our society has become highly militarized and our government has become increasingly obsessed with watching, tracking, monitoring and controlling the general population. But more than anything else, all of the pageantry and beauty in our society masks an evil which has grown to a level that is almost unspeakable. The other day, my wife and I were watching some footage of the beautiful parades and celebrations that were held in Germany before World War II, and they certainly were very impressive. But under the surface, a great evil was growing. Just because something happens behind closed doors does not make it okay, and just like the Nazis, our society is about to learn an exceedingly painful lesson in that regard.
Let’s start out by talking about the economy. Most people tend to regard the Nazis as “far right”, but the truth is that they were socialists. By heavily taxing and spending, the Nazis were able to temporarily restore economic prosperity after the great economic crisis that occurred under the Weimar Republic, and this helped fuel their wild popularity. The following comes from Wikipedia…
In the midst of the Great Depression, the Nazis restored economic stability and ended mass unemployment using heavy military spending and a mixed economy. Extensive public works were undertaken, including the construction of Autobahns (high speed highways). The return to economic stability boosted the regime’s popularity.
Just like the Democrats of today, most people don’t consider the Nazis to have been socialists, but that is precisely what they were. I think that former game show host Chuck Woolery nailed it with some of his recent public statements…
Chuck Woolery, perhaps best known for being the host of the show “Love Connection” from 1982-94, also frequently takes to Twitter to express political viewpoints. In a recent series of tweets Woolery, 74, offered his opinion on politics, the size of government, and the political nature of the Nazi party:
“Nazi is described as a right wing organization, Yet their were Socialists [sic]. They were left. But Chuck. But My BUTT.”
“National Socialist German Workers’ Party. Nazi Party. Hitler. Need I go on?”
“Maybe better. Democrats don’t value the country. They value the power of Government. There is a difference ya know.”
I knew there was a reason why I always liked that guy.
Just like Barack Obama and the Democrats, the Nazis loved to give out free stuff. Kitty Werthmann was a child in Austria at the time the Nazis took over, and her description of the freebies the Nazis were handing out sounds very much like what the Democrats want to do today…
Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families. All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.
I like free stuff too, but in the end someone always has to pay for all of that free stuff. According to Kitty Werthmann, “our tax rates went up to 80% of our income“, and in America we are moving in the same direction.
In the United States today, when you add up all federal taxes, all state taxes, all local taxes, all property taxes and all sales taxes, there are some Americans that actually pay more than 50 percent of their incomes in taxes.
Somehow we still have the audacity to claim that we are not socialists even though that is exactly what we have become.
And the Germans had their own version of Obamacare too. The following is more eyewitness testimony from Kitty Werthmann…
Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna . After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full. If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.
There is no way that you can get around it. The Nazis were never on “the far right”. The were always leftists, and they always hated capitalsim. National Socialist theologian Gregor Strasser once made the following statement…
We National Socialists are enemies, deadly enemies, of the present capitalist system with its exploitation of the economically weak … and we are resolved under all circumstances to destroy this system.
Not even Barack Obama or Bernie Sanders would make such an extreme statement today.
And like the Nazis, our society has become highly militarized.
Just prior to World War II, the Germans probably had the most powerful military on the entire planet, and they loved to use that military to push other countries around. They stunned the entire world when they swept through Poland, and the lightning speed with which they defeated France changed the way war is waged forever.
But just like the leftists in our own nation, the Nazis definitely did not want the general population to be armed. Kitty Werthmann remembers very well what happened in Austria under the Nazis…
Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long after-wards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.
And just like the leftists of today, the Germans were extremely suspicious of individual liberty and freedom. The secret police were everywhere, and anyone that was even suspected of anti-government activity was monitored very closely.
Sadly, we are becoming just like the Nazis in this regard, only now we have the technological capability to take things so much farther. Government control freaks are systematically watching us, tracking us, recording our phone calls and monitoring our emails. It has gotten so bad that even 64 percent of all reporters believe that the government is spying on them. We spy on our enemies, we spy on our friends (just ask the French and the Germans about this) and we even spy on the little old lady down the street.
We have been sold the lie that we have to give up our privacy and our liberty in exchange for security.
It is the same lie that the Nazis told.
But perhaps our greatest similarity to the Nazi regime of the 1930s is our lust for blood.
What the Nazis did behind closed doors was so horrific that it is hard to even speak about it. Once the Holocaust was revealed, the world should have never allowed crimes against humanity like that to ever happen again.
But they are happening.
They are happening behind closed doors in America today, and most Americans are perfectly okay with this.
In this country, millions of babies are being systematically murdered and their organs are being harvested. Those organs are then sold off to the highest bidder and they are ultimately used in extremely bizarre scientific experiments.
In recent months these crimes have been put on display for all the world to see, and yet the American people have not responded with outrage. In fact, only 29 percent of Americans even want to cut off the hundreds of millions of dollars that Planned Parenthood is getting from the federal government every year.
Do you know what that 29 percent figure tells me?
It tells me that America is done.
America is finished.
And it turns out that Hitler was actually a huge fan of the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger. As I have written about previously, it was Sanger that once said the following…
“The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”
Hitler echoed this sentiment when he penned the following in Mein Kampf…
“The demand that defective people be prevented from propagating equally defective offspring. . . represents the most humane act of mankind.”
Of course those on the left are going to get very upset by all of this, and I am sure that some of them will leave some very nasty comments following this article.
But the truth is the truth.
And it isn’t just Democrats – most Republicans in Congress are in the exact same boat too.
If we don’t want to be like the Nazis, we should stop acting like them, and that includes not pushing Christianity out of every area of public life. The following information was uncovered by author Bruce Walker, the author of “The Swastika Against the Cross: The Nazi War on Christianity“…
The Nazi tract Gott und Volk was distributed in 1941, and it describes the life cycle of German youth in the future, who would: “With parties and gifts the youth will be led painlessly from one faith to the other and will grow up without ever having heard of the Sermon on the Mount or the Golden Rule, to say nothing of the Ten Commandments… The education of the youth is to be confined primarily by the teacher, the officer, and the leaders of the party. The priests will die out. They have estranged the youth from the Volk. Into their places will step the leaders. Not deputies of God. But anyway the best Germans. And how shall we train our children? Thus, as though they had never heard of Christianity!”
Our nation is falling apart because we have rejected the values and the principles that were handed down to us by our forefathers.
We have embraced the same lies that the Nazis embraced, and if we don’t turn around we will experience a similar fate.
I think that the following excerpt from a recent RT editorial sums things up pretty well…
The United States is in decline. While not all major shocks to the system will be devastating, when the right one comes along, the outcome may be dramatic.
Not all explosives are the same. We all know you have to be careful with dynamite. Best to handle it gently and not smoke while you’re around it.
Semtex is different. You can drop it. You can throw it. You can put it in the fire. Nothing will happen. Nothing until you put the right detonator in it, that is.
To me, the US – and most of the supposedly free West – increasingly looks like a truck being systematically filled with Semtex.
But it’s easy to counter cries of alarm with the fact that the truck is stable – because it’s true: you can hurl more boxes into the back without any real danger. Absent the right detonator, it is no more dangerous than a truckload of mayonnaise.
But add the right detonator and you’re just one click away from complete devastation.
Absent a major crisis, the United States may be able to keep going down this same road for a few years more.
But I wouldn’t count on it.
We have willingly chosen to tear down and destroy everything that our forefathers built, and we were convinced that we had a better way.
Now decades of incredibly foolish decisions are starting to catch up with us, and yet we still persist in our stubbornness.
So where do we go from here?
What will the fate of America be?
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almost?????? fuck...I've been saying this for over 8 fucking years and even that has been a gross under-estimate!!!
Didn't it pretty much start PRIOR to WWII, now that we know the real fucking truth??????
NAZI's in Madison Square Garden:
https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=english&rais=1&oiu=ht...
The US voted against a UN resolution that condemned attempts to glorify Nazis and Nazism. We didn't want to embarass our Nazi friends in Ukraine.
https://www.rt.com/news/207899-un-anti-nazism-resolution/
Look up the Bush family history...same as with the British crown...both NAZI collaborators prior to WWII. And after WWII they hid scumbag NAZI's and divided them up between us and Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il59S3HT6jI
War crimes...not just a German specialty...but carried on by the American NAZI's of Bush and the rest of the treasounous gov-scum in so many fucking ways that it'll make the sheeptard's heads spin!!! LOL
Oh...hold on...there's someone knockin' at the doo...........................................
And now they're creating little Jr. Nazi's all over America today. Fuckers are all over the place, but they aren't what you would think. Traitors is what they are. Spies. Shit-heat scumbags, indoctrinated and brainwashed to think that anyone who goes by the Constitution is the bad guy.
What's being created is a divide and conquer scenario society. Split the people up in so many fucking different ways that they don't realize that the REAL enemy is the treasonous, scumbag, sociopath gov-scum.
Rot the people's brains w/ shitheads like the Kardashitards and the obamatards...same fucking thing.
Then use it all against us...call us racists, bigots, demonize us, etc., etc., etc.
It's all very simple to isolate and expose......but their next big weapon against us is to infiltrate America w/ 3rd world, primitive invaders who will never understand the dynamic that's going on right now. They're over-loading us just as in Europe with illegal invaders and using them against us to fuck us over.
They know we have no way to really fight this unless we resort to violence of some kind......and if we do in any way, then check fucking mate...because they will trounce on us for it.
We fucked up, folks. We let these fucking, treasonous scumbags take over...now they're going straight for the throat in every fucking way possible without mercy, plain and fucking simple.
They want to disarm us.
DON'T FUCKING LET IT HAPPEN!!!
That's the end if they get their way to disarm us.
This is what we will have left for these fucking scumbags...and all of you need to let those "types" of scumbags know this without any uncertainty!!!
FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!!!
"Look up the Bush family history"
Prescott "Bush" (aka George Scherff) spearheaded the Thyssen-Union Bank funding of the early Nazi party! Fact!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2003/oct/17/20031017-110534-8149r/
"Prescott" then handed George Scerff Jr. (HW Bush) connections to the 4th Reich architects, namely Allen Dulles, who was responsible for NSA and CIA activity that created and grew the "black ops" program (not the special forces bullshit everyone believes) to create D.U.M.B.s and the NWO. When Eisenhower balked at this "coup" against the Constitution (including Magic 12 or Majestic12), he warned us all to "beware the MIC". When Ike handed the reigns to Kennedy, Kennedy threatened to end the NSA and CIA in one swoop. Low and behold. Who was on the "Warren Commission", yes, Allen Dulles...who spearheaded the "single bullet" and "rear entry wound" theories. The commission knew who they had to follow.
Its so sad to grow up watching this unfold, with plenty of press and facts available to anyone who cared. The bulk of the US just wanted to turn on Jack Benny or Jackie Gleason and eat their TV Dinner.
Keep in mind, that the roots of the "counter culture" were also created by these same sleaze pots. From the "Beat Generation", to Crosby Stills and Nash (all senior Military parents and connections) the "alternative" controlled opposition helped those with a conscience "blow off steam" and return to their TV Dinners...including me.
It sometime takes a lifetime to "see"...but now I know we should heed the calls to "stop it now" and wake the fuck up. Participating keeps them in power. "Money" is a random intermediary of exchange. It's value is always assigned by the assholes in power, and it is always less than subsistence.
They are less than 1%....if 99% just stopped "serving" them...they would all fall and die.
I was watching a documentray called "The Hacker Wars" and it was revealed that OWS was created by an FBI informer on FBI servers. He worked for the FBI for 3 years until they dropped the charges.
No wonder OWS never had a clear message.
Prescott was tight with Bormann. All the Bush family are a bunch of NAZIs.
Many comments I read here are focusing and arguing in names, labeling and their definition. I say drop these and concentrate on the actions .gov has been taking and the direction they are taking the country and limiting the freedoms and violating the constitution.
I am sure that noone disagrees with that. Does anyone?
It seems that all descriptions of Hitlers "economic miracle" must somehow be made to look very bad. The Banks would not allow him to trade except to deal on their terms. He bypassed the banks and traded directly with other countries, machinery for foodstuffs, that kind of thing. No banks involved.
The major thing he did was to create a monetary system that played upon other currency experiments that had been done a few years earlier in Austria and Germany. Particularly in Worgl, following the writings of Silvio Gessel.
At the depths of the depression, Gessell's currency experiment was tried and immediately produced prosperity in the town of Worgl, and many other surrounding towns who tried it. This began to grow into a big movement until the Central Bank of Austria squashed the movement.
Gessell's experiment was not a socialist action. It was a money system that was created for the people, to promote prosperity and not for the benefit of the banks.
http://www.lietaer.com/2010/03/the-worgl-experiment/
Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism; at least it's an ethos.
lmao!...well, everyone has to believe in something I guess.
But for the ethically challenged millions, who thought that using the nationalistic concept of the state, to force someone else to buy their health insurance for them was a fantastic idea, I'm sorry, that was the last fucking straw for me.
Sieg Heil bitchez.
Heil Ryan!
It's time to change some rules...
Especially when "the rules" are only applied to the many by the few ;-)
Many comments I read here are focusing and arguing in names, labeling and their definition.
If you are talking about the revelations of the Bush family history, I disagree vehemently. Many good people voted for little Bush 2x without any inkling of what monsters swung from the branches of that family tree. Needs to be talked about until it is common knowledge.
Substitute the name of any president in your comment. Including Obama.
It is much, much more than that ..
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm
http://wantarevelations.com/2014/01/wanta-plan-macro-financial-economic-...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/04/neo-so-much-more-than-nukes/
https://app.box.com/s/hfgvcqg7gqh7i27at6sv53ywu87lwarp (Read Me First)
It is also interesting to look up in WW2 history WHICH companies* in Germany did not have their factories bombed. Now, you could posit the Allies knew Germany needed to be able to have some infrastructure to rebuild with, but was there a Second reason? I think so.
*Thysen was one.
"the "single bullet" and "rear entry wound" theories."
Both shots were from the rear.
A bullet exiting JFK's throat had to hit Connally, the large body in front of him.
JFK's collar was above the throat wound. The hole in the front of the shirt was torn and ragged, which indicated the front was the exit wound.
At Z313, JFK's head moved forward and down, the instant after the bullet struck. The exit wound was on the upper right side of the head, consistent with a shot from the rear.
their next big weapon against us is to infiltrate America w/ 3rd world, primitive invaders who will never understand the dynamic that's going on right now...
You notice most of these refugees are not being sent major US cities, but to flyover country? Flyover country is still very homogeneous and conservative. TPTB will not tolerate that.
You mono-culturalists don't have a clue, I am sorry to say.
Damn it, we have nothing to fear from other cultures. It is not cultures that kill civilization, it is dishonesty, and most cultures manage that phase of decline just fine.
We have never livedd in a monoculture, that is myth. Every little twon had its own culture, it has been Scandanavian in the upper midwest, etc, but the idea of one culture for the country is ridiculous, never was true, not from the beginning.
You don't know your own history. And you don't know the reason for the immigrants, it is because your values no longer include hard work, you efete snobs.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/08/30/modern-homesteading/
And thius is the very fine cvilization we have built, you people can't live without it, don't make waves, you don't kow what you might upset, our world depends on this tuff.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/09/24/a-wonderful-life-in-a-worl...
We now export your multi-culturalism for profit.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/09/08/exporting-multiculturalism/
You guys can't be serious, you don't know what you are proposing.
From Demdere:
Monoculturists don't have a clue?
Below is an excerpt for a different clue: I suggest some reading about lead up to WW2: In order to have a long term stable society, forces have to be balanced. Also, money power has to serve interests of the majority of the people ---- of that nation. One thousand years of stability is nothing to sneeze at. Hungary also was a bulwark that stopped invasions from the East.
International Credit today, serves Jewish interests, and it served Jewish intersests in 1924. People should really focus on the money, and also on unbalanced forces that gave rise to "isms." Money power coming under legal control is key element required to defund Jewish supremacism.
In order to break international finance, then money should be recognized clearly that it has a natural form, which is law. Law in turn can be coded for morality; if a people choose to encode money as such, it would be a boon for consensual civilization. International credit is outside the reach of national law, and hence is not sovereign.
sovereignmoney.eu
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The Tragedy of Hungary (1924)
by Louis K. Birinyi
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/Trianon_ch3.htm
Politically Hungary was a constitutional kingdom for more than one thousand years. Her constitution is only seven years younger than the English Magna Charta. In the year 1000, A.D., Pope Sylvester II presented Stephen, the ruler of Hungary, with a crown and conferred on him the title of "Apostolic King of Hungary," in recognition of the religious, moral, economic, and political value of the Hungarians in Europe and the signal service they had already rendered to religion, culture and general welfare not only in Hungary but elsewhere in Europe. King Stephen has since been canonized by the Roman Catholic Church and he is known in history as "King Saint Stephen."
Unfriendly writers frequently refer to post-war Hungary as a "kingdom without a king," since she has no king at the present time. It will not be amiss, therefore, to state here that pre-war Hungary was a constitutional kingdom during the last one thousand years. Under their constitution, the Hungarians have a right to elect their king, if they want one, and that right had been exercised by the Hungarians until the Austrian Hapsburg dynasty took control of Hungary. At the present time the Hungarians do not want a king but have elected Admiral Nicholas Horthy Governor of Hungary, who, although of the Presbyterian faith, is well loved and idolized by all the Hungarians, Catholics and Protestants alike. His duties are defined and circumscribed by law and, therefore, he is not a dictator, as some hare-brained writers would have you believe.
The form of government of Hungary is a representative democracy. The real ruler of that country is the Parliament which is composed of two Houses, the House of Representatives and the Upper House, resembling the United States Senate. The members of the House of Representatives are elected directly by the people; while the members of the Upper House are appointed by the Governor from among the best and most desirable representatives of the various trades and professions extant in the country. Thus the farmers, for example, have a real farmer of their own kind, the factory workers, the various tradesmen, industrial and commercial groups, the religious groups, and the various professions, each group has its own representative in the Upper House.
The government proper is the Ministry, headed by the Prime Minister. The Ministers, whose functions and duties correspond with those of the members of the Cabinet of the President of the United States of America, are appointed by the Governor with the advice and consent of the Parliament and from the membership of the Parliament. No person is appointed and can hold office as a Minister, unless Parliament sustains him by a majority of votes. If, at any time, the majority of the members of Parliament vote "lack of confidence" in the Ministry, the Ministers must resign and the Governor must appoint new Ministers, in whom the majority of the members of Parliament have confidence. If the majority of the members of Parliament are unable to agree upon the personnel of the Ministry, Parliament is dissolved and a new election held. It would be impossible in Hungary that a government would rule, which does not enjoy the confidence of the majority of the voters of the country. Under this system, the government of the country stands close to the people and it is bound to carry out the wishes and desires of the majority of the voters.
It is evident, therefore, that under this system of government, it would be impossible for any one single group in Hungary to set up an absolute dictatorship. The only way any person could become a dictator in Hungary would be if the voters, by a majority of votes, would elect him a dictator. A person or group of men, who rule by the will of the people, is in no way a dictator
Good Point MEFO.
Money power/system would need to reverse, too.
Demdure, That is quite the long winded way to say diversity is strength, once you boil the bullshit off the top that is your point and of course it is bullshit as well.
Damn it, we have nothing to fear from other cultures.
We have much to fear from Muslim cuktures. Their allegiance, like many used to fear of Catholics of yore and the Pope, is not to the old idea of America, but to Allah. Their violent intolerance of other faiths and views isdirectly in conflict with the embedded notion of toleracne in the idea of America. Their embrace of religion as the source of law (sharia) is utterly at odds with the notion of secular law. Their abominable treatment of women is at odds with the egalitarianism at the root of the idea of America. Their soft attitudes on slavery are at odds with the idea of America. We have much to fear from Arab and Mulsim culture.
It is not cultures that kill civilization, it is dishonesty
Wrong. It is cultures that kill civilization. Dishonesty is but one aspect of what can be part of a culture. Muslim culture will kill western civilization. They have demographics on their side. In a hundred years my female descendants will not be able to travel to Europe for fear of being taken slave by the new Muslim population.
Look America is a clusterfuck now, an abomination, a perversion of the idea of America. Not that America was ever really close to the idea of America, but it is far away now and getting farther away all the time. That can change however if we shape our cultural expectations (not holding my breath). Education is the key. But if we let in too many Muslims we are just doomed. The rate of naturalization for Muslims should be close to zero.
*yawn*
go look up all of the progressive Nazi collaborators prior to WWII. You mean to tell me ALL democrats today aren't identical? An yea, a whole bunch of republicans are falling to the disease too. A certain Clinton identified herself recently as an early 20th century progressive...Yea, the one that's going to be your next president.
The momentum that America is surviving on right now will come to an abrupt halt if that evil cunt is elected. It will be AmeriKa
First paragraph:
In fact, I would venture to say that the Nazification of the United States is pretty much complete.
Dear Snyder:
You are wrong. The contrary is happening.
US population is mixed. And getting even more influx of born minorities and foreigners. For US to become 1930’s Germany “Sectarian Nationalism” the two examples that I mentioned would have to reverse, along with many others.
Power comes through the collective and every collective has sought to dominate the whole fucking world. The German Nazis saw Jews as a problem, just like many on this site do, but they did not want to kill everyone, only dominate them. But there is always a core group that is mostly mono-culture trying to rule the rest. To dominate the world you cannot openly discriminate against too many specific cultures, which is why we see the left so openly supportive of the Muslim culture EVEN THOUGH Muslim values defy virtually every tentent of stated liberalism.This is either because the claimed values of liberalism are only a front, or the value, our should I say the destructive value, of multiculturalism simply outweighs those liberal values.
for those who rule the collective, "we the people" are but property, so it is no surprise that abortion is well embraced as just another feature of livestock management in the name of freedom.
The "mixed" society weakens it and makes it more susceptible to a central power who is the only alternative to the minority's lack of power. A unified people with shared values and principles is the BIGGEST threat to a central government's power, to the dependency that provides them power.
B=========D !
How about cleaning up the language on this site's posts. Act a bit more educated.
If you consider financier co-operation with NAZI Germany, yeah, the rabbit hole goes back to WW2 itself.
But it has morphed since then. We were not exterminating life in the womb. There are lots of other things, too, like the surveillance.
Now that I'm an old guy, I have come to think we are not much differernt than the pagans who sacrificed their newborns to Moloch, back in Bible times.
Those who acquire and accumulate power understand the leverage that a centralized power structure affords. They are not all evil megalomaniacs, and some see this power as a means to do good, but none the less, still enable this concentration to occur.
Those at the bottom, who have little or nothing are equally aware of the benefits afforded by accumulated power. They understand it as a means to lever their interests and as they have nothing to lose, the promises those who are trying to aggregate this power have little down side.
It is we in the middle, the ever shrinking middle, who see our liberty as the tree that bears ALL fruit, that also are afforded no political power while providing the fuel of the collectives to do their deeds, good and evil.
Life is complex and there are no easy or simplistic answers. All paths include risks, and ultimately, all paths are determined by US. IF we are victims, we are our own oppressors. Our power cannot be taken, it can only be given. We cannot be forced to labor. It is a choice....maybe between that and starvation, but a choice just the same. Our world currently defines our values...plain and simple. When WE, acting as a collective, rather than being herded into one, decide liberty has value...warts and all, then only then, we will see it again.
It sucks to be the outlier.
+1 Oldwood
That is honestly one of the best posts I've seen this year. No doubt, "we are are own oppressors".
Netanyahu: Hitler Didn't Want to Exterminate the Jews
Prime minister tells World Zionist Congress that Hitler only wanted to expel the Jews
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.681525
Nazification? Huh? Don't you mean the exact opposite? If the U.S. was Nazified, we'd have traditional white families each producing 4-8 children, no crime, no Jews, no immigration, no bankers....
Hitler's views on women = the exact opposite of the feminism that's plaguing America right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRlfbUr852o
It's a trope of a meme of a Godwin's law truism I tell ya!
Actually the Nazification of Germany ended up with the Germans pummeled into the ground and those traditional white females raped by allied troops and many of their children dead. Didn't work out so well now did it?
Ms No
Is not that the whole argument of the article?
"Didn't work out so well now did it?"
RockySpears
In your ten weeks here you must have missed how Hedge threads function, I was responding to a comment above. Thanks for your input though, I feel I understand this issue much better now.
Edit: After reading your comment again I realize I may be being an asshole but for the point you may be trying to make yes I agree that there are similarities between Nazi Germany and the US but not in the realm of economic policy as much as the Gestapo tactics and surveillance state.
The thread system here is abysmal, and as there is no way of knowing if your comments get responses ( disqus does, by telling you about responsed) I know not if you even see this without revisiting my threads everyday.
As to my point, it was really just to to say "Things didn't turn out so well for the Nazis, in the same way it appears that they will not tun out so well for the US, or for that matter, the World".
With the world full of Trolls, I think a lot of us can be a bit oversensitive about replies, many of which are normally well meant. Almost every other ZH comment requires the /s, and i am often not sure if it was missed, missed deliberate because it must be obvious, or if the writer actually meant it.*
*Poe's Law I believe
nonsense, the aryan nation does not see americans as aryan. they want to dilute america and destroy it and then take it over and live on compounds like kings while the general population toils away in labor camps. diluting a healthy middle class of mostly white people who are not 'aryan' is the trick to breaking down the united states.
nazism isn't about racism in many ways. 'aryan' is in the inner cabal of hardcore people who want to belong to a demogogue worshiping cult leader. it is satanic in the sense of worshiping a human as a god and those who are party of the inner club seek to help take over the government and dissolve civil liberty from within before using the zombified walking corpose of the government to carry out their plans of extermination and war.
most germans did not support or benefit from hitler. and his pretenses to help everyone are very much like those same pretenses by american leadership. they are fake, and most people know they are fake. nontheless, with the help of both mass media, and the 80% of people who are always asleep stupid or don't care...the .1% of nazi insiders can overwhelm the 20% of people who would otherwise oppose them. by way of long term scheming and assasination until they get power, as hitler did.
"dissolve civil liberty from within"
Well said.
most germans did not support or benefit from hitler. and his pretenses to help everyone are very much like those same pretenses by american leadership. they are fake, and most people know they are fake. nontheless, with the help of both mass media, and the 80% of people who are always asleep stupid or don't care...the .1% of nazi insiders can overwhelm the 20% of people who would otherwise oppose them...
That describes very well what is happening in the US with its current populist demagogue leader.
Sure, he killed the commies at the start, and after that most Germans supported him till the end.
Thanks for that Zoomorph, beautiful
Another fucktard (Snyder) that does not understand the difference netween NATIONAL Socialism and INTERNATIONAL Socialism
Peak Finance,
Would you care to elaborate about your post.
It's tough to give a brief overview on such a complex topic in a small amount of space, but basically if I can narrow it down to a core concept, it's that International Socialists believe that "People are fungible"
If you believe that "People are fungible", then things like national borders don't make sense, immigration is fine becuase you are replacing one cog with another, women are just men that can also make babies, etc. If your cogs are identical, then if your black cogs are not doing as well as your white cogs, then it just HAS to be racism or something because, well everyone KNOWS the cogs in the wheel are identical. This thinking leads to all of the absurdities which you can see today.
National Socialists believe that a nation is it's people, and the government exists to protect that concept, by protecting the borders, encouraging the helath and well being of it's members, and strengthing the family, since "the nation is it's people" They encourage everyone to do well, but, understand that there are individual differences. People are guartenteed an equal starting point, but where they end up in life is up to their abilities.
The great irony of this entire situation is the Jews, who complain endlessly abot National Socialism here in the states, support Isreal, which is actually the most National Socialist Government right now amoung first-world nations.
YES! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Peak Finance,
Thanks for your quick reply, after all, it’s getting late.
Anyway, I have no issue with your take/post. For one to be either, it’s an easy transition to change to.
The main point that I was trying to ‘bring up’ is that: Whoever minority that is running a nation, their worst enemy is not a foreign nation, but, their native population.
If the native population is homogeny, like Germany in the 30’s, and many other nations, that can be very dangerous for that minority that is running that nation. These people could united behind a common goal and overcome their rulers.
So, divide them, and your conquer/run their nation, because they will be busy fighting each other while ‘these minority’ steal their resources.
And you can clearly see this by the extremist running a mocking in Africa and the Middle East. Central America in the 80’s. And South America in the 60’s and 1970’s.
Peak Finance:
Denmark and Australia are a very close second to Israel in that respect.
"Socialists believe that "People are fungible"
What the fuck school of thought is that? Did you ever study economics (at the graduate and above level) or sociology (where these economic theories are defined)?
Socialism is better described as a more pro-democratic Capitalism that stipulates regulation as the dog collar of Monopoly fascism.
In other words, the true "free market" as defined by Smith, and praised by Marx for its "wealth generating capacity", that culminates in "monopoly" and thus needs a "throttle" without "throwing the baby out with the bathwater".
It is a "happy medium", between Monopolistic Capitalism (Fascism) and Communism (which can never be realized in a population of 2-year olds).
All of the bullshit badmouthing always comes from the wealthy power brokers who have "some" to lose...not "everything".
This fact shows how fucking greedy the wealthy power brokers were (in Smith's and Marx's time) and still are.
About this:
Did you ever study economics (at the graduate and above level) or sociology (where these economic theories are defined)?
Yes and Yes
What the fuck school of thought is that?
I don't give a shit about dry theories from 19th century textbooks, they were true are the time and it's important to know them, but they no longer accurately describe what we are seeing in the world today. "People are fungible" is a perfect descrition of how International Socialists treat human beings. However, even International Socialism and National Socialism exist on a continuum and not as a cut and dry definition.
Fascism is very simply the merging of government and corporate power. This is the definition I use since most other definations are politically charged. Clearly we have that in the United States, but, this is a feature of BOTH National Socialism AND International Socialism. So, this only muddies the picture and dose not help understand the conflicting socialist ideologies. Both International and National Socialist Societies in the past have taken over industries.
Here is where your definations really fall short.
Even "ownership" is a fluid concept today, For example, if you have an Industry in the United States, and it’s taxed at the corporate rate of 35%, and the gov takes another 35% of what’s paid out in salaries for payroll tax and social taxes, and, the industry operates under extreme scrutiny and over 100,000 pages of regulations to guide it’s operation, then who really "owns" that industry? Is this Fascism? Does it even matter if Fascism is a feature of both National and International Socialism? The Healthcare, Energy, Banking, and Mining industries operate under these exact conditions I mention. The government now can even “FORCE” you to buy a companies product. What about private property? There is no private property in the United States, it's all owned by the government and you pay"rent" inthe form of taxes, which is typically a feature of International Socialism, but what does that mean for the United States? How can we be democtratic-capitalistic with no private property?
Honestly you sound like a kid with no real-world experience spouting dictionary definitions.
Disagree.
The merging of corporate power and state power is, however, a very good definition of fascism – Nazism being a variant of fascism. This has, however, nothing to do with socialism.
And I don’t have the time to reformulate/redo the following (from a former reply to an indoctrinated ‘Ayn Rand’-type/US-born – and yes, I can guess you’re from US before you spew “fascism is socialism” all “state-centered-policies” are socialist or whatever):
My (the European/historical – not blurred by decades of capitalist propaganda) definition of the two terms:
Capitalism: an economy centered on the private ownership of the means of production. THAT IS WHAT WE’VE GOT! Everything of importance (including the state itself) is privately owned by a small group (the 0,01%). There’re around the world attempts to take some of the capital back to were it belongs (the people) but those attempts are ALWAYS (attempted) countered by US/Western intelligence-institutions (for instance read ‘Confessions of an economic hitman’).
Socialism: an economy centered on the common/social and/or the public ownership of the means of production.
Notice that both economic systems can have STRONG STATES – or no state. Yes, socialism does not necessarily equates a huge state and/or bureaucracy. A capitalist state can have that as well. STRONG POLITICAL INTERVENTION IS NOT EQUAL SOCIALISM. There’re in socialism (like in capitalism) many branches – from anarchist socialism (the real/historical and in all parts of the world except US libertarianism) to state socialism.
In capitalism you have ‘monopoly capitalism’ (the end result of all forms of capitalism) to laissez-faire capitalism (the wet dream of Ayn Rand disciples). The latter will naturally (due to the accumulative nature of capitalism) end in the former = the concentration of power/wealth in fewer and fewer hands.
What we’ve got today – as the dominant and global ideology – is FASCISM/capitalism.
To say that fascism is socialism is an insult to all the socialists that were murdered/executed/killed fighting by fascists regimes – together with labor-unionist, communists, anarchists/libertarians (the real sort that fight all forms of authority and not just the state) and left-wing intellectuals. Hitler banned the communist parties and the socialist parties. You will have a very hard time finding anyone from Europe (who have experienced full-blown fascism in recent history) who doesn’t know that fascism is an extreme right-wing ideology. We know who supported the fascists – in Denmark many of the right-wing newspapers that welcomed Hitler’s rise to power and later invasion of Denmark are still active today (Jyllands Posten, Berlingske Tidende), the conservative party of Denmark marched in brown-shirts and black boots with Swastikas and the big business owners profited by the German war-machine (like they do today by the US war-machine) etc. etc. The same is true for all other European countries.
The absolute majority of freedom-fighters during WWII in Europa was left-wing + the international brigade that fought Franco’s fascism was comprised of anarchists and socialists (by the way they fought Stalin’s brigades just as fiercely as they fought the fascists). Orwell and Hemmingway have written extensively about this.
(and no, Nazism, the name, is not telling - is ‘The Democratic Republic of Korea’ democratic?).
P F
About the best, if not the best, comment I ever read on ZH.
Thank you for more for us all to think on.
"I am a cog, just a cog, if I do not work well, they get another cog out of the spares box."
To Hitler, it was survival of the fittest. His famous quote which I will paraphrase dealt with the wealthy business owners. The real Socialists in the Party wanted re-distribution. Hitler told them that the Rich Factory dudes had got on top by natural struggle. He said, again paraphrasing, "..to me it is not important about the capitalist or the landowner. If that man supports the German state and the Triumph of the German Race, to me, that man is a National Socialist."
The man could educate ihimself if he understood the difference between a Socialist and a Fascist.
Or he could read this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Thank god I stidied Political Science in the Sixties.
People are so dumbed down.
Ignorance and intelligent thought we dismantled in the pubic educational system starting about 1970, most people educated between then and the present in the USA are blindly ignorant of the various political and economic systems and what defines them.
Only a fool would listen to this guy.
All this said the USA is a fascist country.
And I an a natural born citizen of a fascist country.
Communists and socilists and all supporters of democracy are the natural enemies of fascists and I will go to my grave resisting them.
I encourge you to do the same.
Now is the time.
bill
"All this said the USA is a fascist country."
We said, Bill. Cheers.
If you can find a copy, "Friendly Fascism", by Bertram Gross (a cabinet member in the Kennedy Administration) is worth a read. He was a professor at St. Marys and a visiting at Cal when I met him.
A band "Consolidated" was born of his book (from SF) and their stuff is the actual "epic" for their time (early 80's). Good stuff.
Thanks for being a voice of reason.
I don't know folks. I read through the thread and I see this getting a bit too "educated". Who cares what it is called? The concentration of power is the problem.
Holy shit they still allow this Snyder guy to contribute articles here?
A Religio-Fascist complains about NAZIs and tries to propagandize they are Democrats. Like Republicans and the whole U.S. government is not fascist.
at least we didn't get another numbered list! 89 ways the US is becoming Nazi Germany
What a piece of shit
is snyder a jew??...............
I don't think so, but apparently he sells their koolaid.
+100 for that nugget!
No list this time.
This is a bit off-topic but y'all bitchez are smart so I will ask anyway: WTF is up with this zombie nonsense the joooos are pushing constantly in the MSM? There are zombie stories on the "news", zombies in TEEVEE shows, commercials and music videos and zombie 5k runs in towns and cities. This campaign is way too coordinated to be something that grew organically. What does it all mean, this zombie shit?
IMHO I think it is reflective of what our society has become, and where they (ZWO PTB) are trying to guide it to, less the organ eating and stuff. Like a post-apocalyptic nightmare.
If you work or live in a major city stop and take a look around you. Almost everyone is glued to their cell phone like......well like ZOMBIES and they are unaware of what is going on around them - all absorbed in their facebook or twitter bullshit. Look at our elections - bunch of zombies voting for who they are told to vote for, not that it matters much anymore since the '60's.
Just my speculation but you are 100% correct in saying - This campaign is way too coordinated to be something that grew organically. What does it all mean, this zombie shit?
Yup, zombies can be a metaphor for all sorts of stuff. The military has used zombies in disaster response training scenarios. I believe FEMA has too but I'm not certain on that. It may be just out of humor or perhaps those of the authoritarian mindset see the public as a largely mindless threat not worthy of life. Maybe it's a little of both. On the flipside the zombie metaphor appeals to many independent and survival minded types as they see those that are unprepared and unaware as the walking dead (potentially).
You know about that herd of people migrating to Europe from Afgan, Syria etc. right?
Maybe they're into corpses? I figure they are just keeping the masses entertained. There is also a conspiracy theory called "predictive programming" that some subscribe to which seemed to originate from this guy:
“Predictive programming is a subtle form of psychological conditioning provided by the media to acquaint the public with planned societal changes to be implemented by our leaders. If and when these changes are put through, the public will already be familiarized with them and will accept them as natural progressions, thus lessening possible public resistance and commotion.” – Alan Watt
I do imagine that the "Day the EBT Card Stops" is going to closely resemble the zombie apocalypse
Zombies = Weaponized Rabies
Zombies = Weaponized Rabies
And it turns out that Hitler was actually a huge fan of the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger. As I have written about previously, it was Sanger that once said the following…
The author appears to equate abortion with murder as one and the same.
A pity, because at a simple stroke the entire work in invalidated.
You mean he didn't lose you with the headline?
The pity is in adopting a subjective definition of life and murder. We may soon find that our lives, while still being equal in value to all others, are not quiet as equal as we once thought. A slippery slope indeed.
All you need to do is to read the comments from the folks up on here. They are supposed the be the informed and intellectual sorts. All you read is "evil jew this".. unless it is Peter Schiff's father... Fags that, unless it's some tremendously decorated solidier who is a bigger bad ass than any of us. Free shit army are evil... 'cause 51% of workers making less than 30k a year isn't a heart beat away from revolution.
Mostly, when it comes to commenters on this site, I see large waisted middle aged white men who will blame eveyone but themselves. Pissed off that the 19050s have passed... enabling all that is wrong, nowdays. What do you do, personally, to change things?
down vote me only if you can honestly tell me your waist size and how many prescriptions you are on..... :O
31 and zero.
Show-off...
If that's true, then...'Overfed' pertains to our central bank??
BTW: 30, and zero.
Yup. I neglected to capitalize the "F" when I was making up my username.
34
amphetamine, xanax, baby asprin, avoristatin, metoprolol, and marijuana. I have a script for Viagra but, I can't afford it.
I don't drink......don't need to.
I junked you 'cause you asked me to!
30 and 1, and im 56 and can run 15 miles sub 10
34, 0 prescrips
....and your hot milf's hooch, baby....
5'9" 165lbs. 34" Waist 48y/o
0 meds
44...just like my daily carry.
I'm on a serotonin drip but I am trying hard to ease it back on holidays and special occasions.
I gave you a down arrow because you claim that people on this website are supposed to be intellectual. Not even a casual perusal of the commentary (my own included) should lead to that conclusion. Plus I just like giving people down arrows.
Well, just off of the top of my head?
How about this:
I recycle literally tons of food yearly on my farm
I teach young minds very touchy subjects like the difference between "money" and "currency" and personal finance
I personally am responsible for getting at least 10+ people off of cable tv
I built my own energy efficient house and talk to people about it and help them understand the concepts
And A LOT of other stuff that I can't mention here because there is no longer a real right to free speech.
Now what are YOU doing fucktard?
Own several properties. Very involved in the local food movement. Have Zero debt. Raise sheep, cows, chickens, pigs and sheep. Own a pottery studio. Tan hides and do leather work. Extremely involved in the local community.
Don't blame other groups for my xenophobic fears. Lots of Laotions around here now... great people.
how big was your waist and how many scrips are you on? i wear a 34 and am on none. i also don't blame any group for the downfall of anyone.
So you are basically a fascist douchebag who believes everything he is told by his slaveowner.
Q: You said rape (sheep) twice!
A: I like rape (sheep)! Apologies to Mel Brooks.
Don't be a 'tard, cuz I think you might have something important to say.
Anyway, the uncomfortable truth is that those we call our closest allies are actually our mortal enemies.
People are fkn stupid, matermaker- there's nothing you can do about that.
People think Obama is Hitler incarnate.
Please excuse me now- I have to experience my aneurysm.
Obama's a puppet. He couldn't make a proper nodule on Hitlers' ball-sack.
Was Hitler a saint? No!
Was Hitler a leader? You bet your ass...
Was Hitler equally beholden to bankers for his position as Obama is? Uh-huh.
Obama is not Hitler incarnate.... clearly Peewee Herman was, or rather they guy who played Pee-wee who used to jack off in theatres. Apparently his tastes in films may have changed a tad.
Say, did you hear about the big sale on the Pee Wee Herman Collection at Sears? Trousers are half off.
Thank you, you're beautiful, what a night, what a show...
With all respect, Ms No, Peewee doesn't hold a candle to Trump.
He's telling us we're special.
He's telling us we can be great again.
He's telling us that immigrants are taking our jobs.
He's telling us that China, which incidentally built the machine I'm typing on- is not playing 'fair'.
The best part is that none of the above is true.
Hitler was a Saint, compared to this guy.
Nothing. Your beloved world of lazy assholes is going to tear itself apart. And you along with it, Trollio.
unless it's some tremendously decorated solidier who is a bigger bad ass than any of us...
Bwahahahahahaha... You don't read much of the comments ZH do you? That guy with the ribbons pinned on his chest is a FOOL who fought bullshit wars for the elites and the banksters for NOTHING.
On top of that the elites are cock blocking the vets with their medical care via the VA system. Like I said that guy is a FOOL.
Adolf Hitler had a 92+% of the election. The US is not in that situation, at all. There are certainly fascists around, everywhere. Though their numbers are nowhere near pre-war Germany. The US does resembles a neighbor of Germany though, but from an earlier time: France pre-revolution.
In the US today probably 20-25% of the population deeply despises the government. 15% of the population is prepared to go to war domestically if it came to that. About 50% of the intelligent circles of people don't trust the government at all and seem to be moving to the previously mentioned groups ways of thinking. There is no comparison of the US to pre-war Germany.
History doesn't repeat but does rhyme. Snyder just has the wrong rhyme.
I'd rather not repeat the French Revolution. That would suck very, very badly. We are in not in much danger of retreading the steps of Germany.
Please link us to a quote on the highest vote percentage Hitler ever recieved in an election - as 92% it was not.
It's in this book, in the first couple chapters:
http://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html
It may have been an approval rating vs. a vote, but either way it makes the same point. The Germans were desperate for a savior and Hitler offered to be that. They were led like sheep to slaughter.
My late mother was there: "It couldn't have gone on like that, with all the street fights between the Browns (Nazis) and Communists". With these two forces being the only ones, and communism promising to nationalize factories, industrialist Thyssen funded the Nazis - he wanted to keep his factories. Look him up. He who has the more funds gets elected - sound familiar?
In Enc. Britannica of about 1970, the composition of Reichstagsmembers is listed. It shows a steady growth between the 1920s and 1932/33 or when that last election was. See perhaps Reichstag in wikipedia and go to the left pane "Deutsch", they usually have tables and you can probably understand the names of the parties and see for yourself how it was a gradual rise. One thing is for sure, without 1929 Black Friday Hitler would not have had a chance.
On America, after WWII the US had 10% of global population, now 4.4%. Wars were partly funded by war bonds that everybody bought, now it's all from tax revenue so the losses seem to hit harder. After WWII, the US confiscated all of Germany's patents, hundreds of thousands. They were assets to build on.
Most people tend to regard the Nazis as “far right”, but the truth is that they were socialists.
FUCKIN A RIGHT!!!! Nazi is derived from NATIONAL FUCKING SOCIALISTS.........well maybe I added a word in there, but you get the idea.
Most people haven't spent 10 minutes studying WW2. Unfortunately that includes Michael Snyder. Doesn't stop the idiot from writing a blog article about it, though.
Very true, and those people would not be aware of The National Socialist parties socialist programs.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0143034693/ref=rdr_ext_tmb
http://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-Third-Reich-History/dp/1451651686/ref=sr...
The German National Socialist Party was about as much socialist as Stalin was communist. It was a small group of psychopaths that knew how to stir up emotions and sentiments in a pissed off populus. It is in no way diffrent from all the freaks that have infilitrated this site and blame all the problems of their world on various groups that don't agree with them.
Every single group that has ever taken control always has the people believe there is a boogey man they must unite to fight.
Wage and price controls ain't capitalististic
The Nazis came to power in the midst of the Great Depression. The most pressing issue at that point was an unemployment rate of close to 30%.[23] Before World War II, Hitler appointed Hjalmar Schacht, a former member of the German Democratic Party, as President of the Reichsbank in 1933 and Minister of Economics in 1934.[23]
At first, Schacht continued the economic policies introduced by the government of Kurt von Schleicher in 1932 to combat the effects of the Great Depression. The inherited policies included a large public works programs supported by deficit spending – such as the construction of the Autobahn network – to stimulate the economy and reduceunemployment.[24] There was major reduction in unemployment over the following years, while price controls prevented the recurrence of inflation. However, price controls in agriculture also squeezed out small farmers.[25]Similarly, while unemployment decreased, standards of living languished: rationing of key goods like food and clothing, and long lines became common.[26]
The Great Depression had spurred state ownership in most Western capitalist countries. This also took place in Germany in the years prior to the Nazi political takeover. The Nazi election programs also supported nationalization of major industries, though the government of the Nazi Party included a few actual policy of privatization in the 1930s.[27]Between the fiscal years 1934/35 and 1937/38, privatization was a small source of revenue for Germany’s Treasury, representing only 1.4 percent of total fiscal revenues.[28]
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The economic policies of the Third Reich were in the beginning the brainchildren of Schacht, who assumed office as president of the central bank under Hitler in 1933, and became finance minister in the following year. Schacht was one of the few finance ministers to take advantage of the freedom provided by the end of the gold standard to keep interest rates low and government budget deficits high, with massive public works funded by large budget deficits.[23] The consequence was an extremely rapid decline in unemployment – the most rapid decline in unemployment in any country during the Great Depression.[23] But whether this helped the average German is a matter of debate—while more Germans had jobs, a focus on rearmament meant rationing in food, clothing, metal, and wood [31] for most citizens. Rationing eventually extended to use of fuel and production of cars, leaving many Germans unable to drive. Goering nationalized the steel industry of industrialists who fell from political favor (such as Fritz Thyssen in 1939) and formed the Hermann Goering Works in 1937 with the goal of producing steel from low grade German iron at rates unprofitable to other steel companies.[32] However, production fell short of rearmament demand. When production in the nationalized iron ore industry declined, “brown shirts” seized private stores from factories, churches, and cemeteries.[33]
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The British Marxist historian Timothy Mason, who was a leading expert on the economic history of Nazi Germany argued that after the 1936 economic crisis, a "primacy of politics" prevailed with business interests being subordinated to the Nazi regime. In a 1966 essay, Mason wrote "that both the domestic and foreign policy of the National Socialist government became, from 1936 onward, increasing independent of the influence of the economic ruling classes, and even in some essential aspects ran contrary to their collective interests" and that "it became possible for the National Socialist state to assume a fully independent role, for the "primacy of politics" to assert itself".[56] Mason used the following to support his thesis:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winterhilfswerk
And there always is. Freaks like you just like to wear chains. =)
Please don't confuse the retards here with facts. it just confuses them.
Don't forget about the sociopath bankers that supported the movement
Show the big con that we ...
http://ShowRealHist.com/yTRIAL.html
America represents everything the National Socialists would have despised. There isn't a comparison to be made. I think we've reached peak "Nazi" "Holocaust" fatigue.
National Socialist German Worker's Party??? You can't print the real name like that, in Murica we call them Nazis! The gum chewing public is not supposed to equate Nazis with socialism...DAS RAYCISS!
The Nazis were a special breed of fascism and racism. The virulent racism is what separated them from Mussolini's fascists.
Fascism is crony capitalism, not socialism.
12 years ago, I downloaded this piece, written by Antony C. Sutton
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2007/02/125049.pdf
WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER
By
Antony C. Sutton
Chapter Eight
Roosevelt's New Deal and Hitler's New Order
Hjalmar Schacht challenged his post-war Nuremburg interrogators with the observation that Hitler's New Order program was the same as Roosevelt's New Deal program in the United States. The interrogators understandably snorted and rejected the observation. However, a little research suggests that not only are the two programs quite similar in content, but that Germans had no trouble in observing the similarities. There is in the Roosevelt Library a small book presented to FDR by Dr. Helmut Magers in December 1933. On the flyleaf of this presentation copy is written the inscription,
To the President of the United States, Franklin D. Roosevelt, in profound admiration of his conception of a new economic order and with devotion for his personality. The author, Baden, Germany, November 9, 1933.
FDR's reply to this admiration for his new economic order was as follows:
(Washington) December 19, 1933
My dear Dr. Magers: I want to send you my thanks for the copy of your little book about me and the "New Deal." Though, as you know, I went to school in Germany and could speak German with considerable fluency at one time, I am reading your book not only with great interest but because it will help my German.
Very sincerely yours,
The New Deal or the "new economic order" was not a creature of classical liberalism. It was a creature of corporate socialism. Big business as reflected in Wall Street strived for a state order in which they could control industry and eliminate competition, and this was the heart of FDR's New Deal. General Electric, for example, is prominent in both Nazi Germany and the New Deal. German General Electric was a prominent financier of Hitler and the Nazi Party, and A.E.G. also financed Hitler both directly and indirectly through Osram.
International General Electric in New York was a major participant in the ownership and direction of both A.E.G. and Osram. Gerard Swope, Owen Young, and A. Baldwin of General Electric in the United States were directors of A.E.G. However, the story does not stop at General Electric and financing of Hitler in 1933.
In a previous book, Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, the author identified the role of General Electric in the Bolshevik Revolution and the geographic location of American participants as at 120 Broadway, New York City; the executive offices of General Electric were also at 120 Broadway. When Franklin Delano Roosevelt was working in Wall Street, his address was also 120 Broadway. In fact, Georgia Warm Springs Foundation, the FDR Foundation, was located at 120 Broadway. The prominent financial backer of an early Roosevelt Wall Street venture from 120 Broadway was Gerard Swope of General Electric. And it was "Swope's Plan" that became Roosevelt's New Deal — the fascist plan that Herbert Hoover was unwilling to foist on the United States. In brief, both Hitler's New Order and Roosevelt's New Deal were backed by the same industrialists and in content were quite similar — i.e., they were both plans for a corporate state.
There were then both corporate and individual bridges between FDR,s America and Hitler's Germany. The first bridge was the American I.G. Farben, American affiliate of I.G. Farben, the largest German corporation. On the board of American I.G. sat Paul Warburg, of the Bank of Manhattan and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. The second bridge was between International General' Electric, a wholly owned subsidiary of General Electric Company and its partly owned affiliate in Germany, A.E.G. Gerard Swope, who formulated FDR's New Deal, was chairman of I.G.E. and on the board of A.E.G. The third "bridge" was between Standard Oil of New Jersey and Vacuum Oil and its wholly owned German subsidiary, Deutsche-Amerikanisehe Gesellschaft. The chairman of Standard Oil of New Jersey was Walter Teagle, of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. He was a trustee of Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Georgia Warm Springs Foundation and appointed by FDR to a key administrative post in the National Recovery Administration.
These corporations were deeply involved in both the promotion of Roosevelt's New Deal and the construction of the military power of Nazi Germany. Putzi Hanfstaengl's role in the early days, up to the mid-1930s anyway, was an informal link between the Nazi elite and the White House. After the mid-1930s, when the world was set on the course for war, Putzis importance declined — while American Big Business continued to be represented through such intermediaries as Baron Kurt von Schroder attorney Westrick, and membership in Himmler's Circle of Friends.
I have red Sutton too!
Didn't know FDR spoke German!!!! Thanks
The most interesting thing (If you read about these Wall Street crooks and their corporations who, during the war, had factories in Germany at the time) you will find that NONE of their factories got bombed during the time, all except for one which appeared to have been "an accident".
Now... isn't that interesting?
"had factories in Germany at the time"
Correct . & AFAIK .....
there were some 150 American Companies working and with premises in Germany during the 1930s.
During the Nurnburg trails, the main Bankers in Germany ( 3 IIRC) that had direct affiliations with the US , were at first arrested , and then let "quietly" go free.
The German BIS representative was jailed for 11 years .. and went to the US after his release.
I guess everybody is aware that Hitler had a life-size painting of Henry Ford in his office ?
Ford was a "Technocrat" ... & financed the publishing of "The International Jew".
He gave up his crusade after his revenues dropped dramatically (30% IIRC) .
FWIW
***POLICE STATE 4*** http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=460.0
Also don't forget the Citizens Score model now being used by China. Alibaba is going to run it with all your data and if you purchase a game, that's a ding against your score. It's working it way in over there and we have some it here already with the data selling virus worth about $180 billion a year and Obama just gave corporations free tickets on this as long as a government agency is using some of it for research..how easy can that be to get on the data selling band wagon.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2015/10/citizen-score-in-china-huge-warning-for.html
As soon as they create a model with data they can create any type of profile they want about you, fact or fiction or both. Look at what goes on when you fill a prescription with medication adherence prediction scores..these are total bullshit and a pharmacist told me all about it and how it affects their work as they too are scored on how they are working with the consumer scores..full circle. Pay cash, you're an Outlier now.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2015/07/patients-who-pay-cash-when-filling.html
The nazis really got power after they got rid of the brown shirts and Ernst Rhom in the night of the long kinves. After that, they blamed ALL the problems of Germany on the Jews, Fags, Gypsies, Poles, Russians, French... pretty much everyone else.
They then whipped the populus into a frenzy about hating the devils against them. Never in recorded human history has any one group not like another group been so systemically different and evil...... It's always a ploy for people who lust for power.
Not even the Devil himself has been such a threat.
What rock has this fellow been living under???
Operation Paperclip (originally Operation Overcast) (1949–1990) was the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) program in which over 1,500 German scientists, engineers, andtechnicians from Nazi Germany and other foreign countries were brought to the United States for employment in the aftermath of World War II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
They bought the NAZIs over to build the 'merica's Autobahn, the interstate highway system, and run the space program. Werner von Braun was a SS Major who ran NASA and put the first man on the moon.
George H.W. Bush's father, Senator Prescott Bush was a huge NAZI and ran the Union Bank which was seized by the US Gov't for doing business with Fritz Thysenn the steel magnate. Krupp-Thysenn Corporation is still going strong right here in the good ole' USA!!!! I see their escalators everywhere! Krupp built cannons for the Kaiser then for Hitler/Bormann.
Allen Dulles spent the war in Switzerland laundering Jewish gold looted by Martin Bormann. George H.W. Bush ended up working for Allen Dulles, in the CIA which Dulles was first director, and was in Dallas the day he had Kennedy killed.
The CIA was primarily used to cover up US corporate involvement in assisting the NAZI rape of Europe.
The only reason Nixon got any exposure as a candidate was because he had the goods on Prescott Bush and was going to drop a dime on him. Prescott got him elected to the California House of Reps. to shut him up. How else could a total scumbag like Nixon get in office? With the help of an even bigger scumbag of course.
Author is clueless.
What's your point? That bit of history reads a bit like the Medicci or Pope Alexander II. That always how history operates. You know WHY? because stupid shit like all the Jews are out to get them and part of some great conspiracy. AS IRWIN SCHIFF FUCKING DIED FOR HIS NATION AND FREEDOM SHACKELED TO A FUCKING HOSPITAL BED.
They also got the German patents. The author did forget a few minnor items. the first thing Hitler did was get rid of the bankers and from then the economy soared.
Hitler was just as much of a banker's bitch as Hitlery is.
Hitler simply swapped one group of bankers for another, and then put the jack boot of the State to the necks of the little people (and eventually entire countries) in order to pay the increased banker fees for maintaining his status quo, in the process enriching the likes of Prescott Bush, and then the BIS, but that's OK... because they were proper WASP bankers, unlike the evil local WASP and Jew banksters he pilloried to win favor with the sheeple, sort of like Hitlery is doing right now).
I don't disagree, but there is another wording for "a banker's bitch" in my book: a sovereign waging war
seen this way, Philipp II of Spain was the greatest banker's bitch before the XXth Century, and he, like Hitler, was not fond of bankers, investors and liberal-minded financial communities like the Dutch that bankrolled his wars, and were nearly completely ruined by his serial defaults
just a mind-fart to the thing, what I mean is that being against bankers of any stripe is something different from getting loans from them "for a just cause"
in the history of finance, the greatest enemies of bankers were often first debtors-beyond-hope, and then enemies of the evil creditors
You certainly know how to pick your bloodlines for effect. Banking should be a risky business, and there certainly should be risks for making deals with the [Sovereign] Devil, even if he is pitching that deal as a "just cause". Personally, I think the greatest enemy of bankers is their own greed (with notable exceptions like those non-Jewish bankers and goldsmiths who incurred the wrath of Philip's wife- Bloody Mary, or was there a noble cause that I'm ignorant of, and perhaps some debt that also took a Huguenot haircut, before they uprooted to Switzerland and usurped the local "tradition" of using paper futures contracts to circumvent the Catholic prohibition on usury, but I digress with a loud brain fart), before conceding that bankers need sovereigns just as sovereigns need bankers).
This idea of bankers creating credit from nothing and then loaning it out, needs to come under scrutiny. THIS IS WHERE THE PARASITE IS LODGED.
This creation from nothing and then holding a debt instrument, is a form of control. Evolution has created a type of human, especially the Aryan type, which wants to pay his debts.
This evolution is in turn a function of fourth ice age, where populations necked down to small numbers, and only those who worked together survived. It also predicated a long time horizon type of thinking, this to do planning for long winters.
To fix this parsitical arrangement, money has to come under lawful control. A central issuing authority could and should issue it into familes or in some way into base of population. That means into bottom of pyramid, not top. This would be a different kind of money, NOT CREDIT. It would be floating money that relates to industry and needs of a people, and strictly volume controlled by law.
Jewish finance credit (today's money) injects to benefit finance, thus helping out in in-group tribe. This can also be considered blood line, since the tribe practices cousin mariage at extremes e.g. rothschilds.
Banks absoutlely shoud be disallowed from creating new credit as money. If a banker earns fees, he is your agent... your proxy. The power relation shifts where banker becomes merely a social cog. Banker as helpful agent then helps creditors and debtors find each other in a mutual arrangement, totally in line with evolution.
A real money system has creditor who is a saving neighbor and also a partner in your enterprise. Get it! If you get into trouble with your enterprise, your neighbor who is creditor is also willing to work with you man to man, and is not a banking corporation out to screw you and harvest your life energy.
This idea of a banker creating money, and then if the enterprise fails, to then harvest debtors is parasitical and gets in between two way relations of man. The parasite drains life energy and sends civilization spiraling out of control. Hence, there are isms to fix society at a surface level, but not at the root level.
The root level is MONEY ITSELF, and its formation. Usury is totally condemned in major relgions as murderous sin. Modern man has forgotten this as he has been hypnotized.
Money should....no ... has to be lawful, and it needs to channel in accordance with good monetary science.
Until the parasite is dislodged from between human relations, then nothing is really fixed. Human civilization will continue to malfunction as it has its parasite embedded in both reproduction and brain centers of its body.
I pointed out earlier that Hungary had close to a thousand years of consenual civiization. Humanity can do well under the right circumstances, there is hope.
The Jewish problem is real, and it is also a problem with man and his desire to have a free lunch, to take rents. A parasite lodged in between creditor and debt relations of man, takes a free lunch in transaction costs, and then directs brain centers of body politic with his money power. This particular parasite has a religion that gives cover and sanction for parasitism, so it acts on itself in a reinfrocing mannner. What me? I'm innocent and everybody is an anti-semite, is the common refrain heard, this to obscure and obfuscate rent takings.
The parasite is so strong it has hypnotized most to then focus on politics such as socialism vs communism, etc. and never really notice credit as money and their nefarious deeds.
When you go to the bank to be hypothecated, you voluntarily have formed slave chains that bind, and allowed a third party to attach a debt hook to you. This third party has created money and stands between your debt and credit relations with your fellow citizens. This money power is unatural, paraasitical, and must be pulled out by its roots.
German national socialists DID break some of these international debt system chains, and this WAS part of the reason for germany coming under attack.
Don't forget that prior to WW1 germany was practicing industrial capitalism, a form of credit money issued by the state to then benefit industry; this also was seen as dangerous to the rents normally received by the parasite.
You're funny. Money is simply a medium of exchange that society agrees to use. Sound money prevents the arbitrary creation of that money for the benefit of some at the expense of others. Now, quit Bogarting that thing and pass it around.
1913 frbny balance sheet $0
2015 frbny Balance sheet $4.5 trillion dollars
Doesn't take a genius to figure out the frbny has to go.
Either that or NYNY needs to be cut loose from the Union and let them und their operations instead of the US taxpayers.
Nixon a total scumbag?
Would a "total" scumbag have done this?
In November 1969, President Richard Nixon surprised the American public, and the world, by ordering the United States to unilaterally discontinue its biological weapons program, thus ending further research into their development. After Nixon declared an end to the U.S. bio-weapons program, debate in the Army centered around whether or not toxin weapons were included in the president's declaration. So research continued until Nixon ended the debate when he added toxins to the bio-weapons ban in February 1970.
The U.S. also ran a series of experiments with anthrax, code named Project Bacchus, Project Clear Vision and Project Jefferson in the late 1990s and early 2000s.
Standard Historical Disclaimer: The US biological weapons program officially began in spring 1943 on orders from U.S. President Roosevelt. But the US has also been one of the worst laggards in getting rid of it's remaining stockpiles. Does research still go on?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-s-ultimate-weapon-of-mass-destructi...
AFAIK, OSS's main target was the take-over of the Nazi-Spy-Network that had top expertise in spying on Russia.
Sure , it sounds nice to say they were scientists etc., but I think that was just a front for the MSM Sheeple of the time.
I guess it is mentioned in John Loftus' book: "The Belarus Secret"
http://www.amazon.com/The-Belarus-Secret-Connection-America/dp/1557781389
The Nazification Of America Is Almost Complete.... WTF
Don't they mean the "jewification" is almost complete? what a croc or crap this article is, to even think that people will suck this shite up
Zionist alert! heres the antidote (David duke)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vytSvPHXHdk
Is David Duke still alive?! What amazes me most about southern nazi types? they try to espouse Jesus.
Hitler was quite prescient about one thing...
In contrast to Mein Kampf, in Zweites Buch Hitler added a fourth stage to the Stufenplan. He insinuated that in the far future a struggle for world domination might take place between the United States and a European alliance comprising a "new association of nations, consisting of individual states with high national value". Zweites Buch also offers a different perspective on the U.S. than that outlined in Mein Kampf. In the latter, Hitler declared that Germany's most dangerous opponent on the international scene was the Soviet Union; in Zweites Buch, Hitler declared that for immediate purposes, the Soviet Union was still the most dangerous opponent, but that in the long-term, the most dangerous potential opponent was the U.S.
Hitler consequently believed that the Russian people were ruled over by what he regarded as a gang of bloodthirsty but inept Jewish revolutionaries. The majority of Americans were in Hitler's view "Aryans", albeit Aryans ruled by what Hitler saw as a Jewish plutocracy. In Hitler's point of view, it was this combination of "Aryan" might, coupled with a more competent "Jewish rule" which made the U.S. so dangerous.
We've got Donald the (GOP frontrunner) Trump saying he'll have the government "tear down" mosques if he's elected, but the author can't see beyond the Democratic Party for his indictment. Mote and beam, eh... Mote and beam.
feck me the zionist info war is on lol... this will be fun
hasbara has been recruiting
Yeah funny how that worked America fought the Germans, but then were real happy to pick up their scientists and data, no matter what price was paid in human lives for it
Nazification?
No Michael.
Nice try.
Try....DUMBIFICATION, KRAPTRASHIANACATION, DANCINGWITHTHEASSHOLES-ACATION.
Then, spin in revised history, the mass attention span of a ET! segment, dumb phones to keep one dumb, and thinking up "money" by corrupt politicians, banksters and the MIC.....sprinkle in 10 million invaders/illegals/whatthefuck.............and voila~ motherfucker..............
DATS what we gots!
Nazism is as a subset of Totalitarian rule.
What totalitarian rule would be complete without book burnings and elimination of its dissenters and undesirables (as defined by its rulers)?
Why not have its modern, internet equivalent: Eliminating undesirable and troubling bloggers, and burn their postings too?
Lucky for us here on ZH -- the bastion of libertarianism and Free Speech -- ZH rulers would never do that.
Oh, wait... Pot meet Kettle.
Don't be so excited to bring the Third Reich back, after all, they never left. They were funded by Zionists and Bushs whose aire ended up in control of the CIA. Idolizing Hitler is a joke. The Third Reich is still here, they succeeded in tearing Germany apart through divide and conquer and now they doing the same to your country and everybody else. People have a hard time believing that Jewish Oligarchs will sacrifice their own but they have. They are hiding behind large numbers of their own who are on the whole innocent. If this country responds to this by becoming a bunch of Nazi worshippers your country will fall and they will laugh.
What's an aire? Did you mean heir?
WTF happened to this site? "Most people tend to regard the Nazis as “far right”, but the truth is that they were socialists." Um, no. They were a right wing ideology, and all the mental gymnastics in the world aren't going to change the fact that they were fascists, not socialists. Honestly Tyler, if you're going to keep publishing retards like this, expect your pageviews to continue to drop. This site used to be one of the few great places on the internet. Now it's just a sad reflection of its old self, filled with Alex Jones mouth breathers and disphits like the author of this "article." So sad. This is the sort of tripe I'd expect on TFM or silverdoctors.
Fascism and socialism are two sides of the same coin. Both are opposed to free markets, individualism, and property rights. Both worship the State and expect all good things to come from the application of power. The difference is one of semantics, the lies they use to hide their real intentions. Left vs right is another Big Lie. There is no left or right, there is only liberty and power. You are either on the side of freedom or the side of control. Liberty leads to prosperity, growth, and cooperation. Power leads to death and destruction.
The best example of this is the Tao, he who follows the Tao has no need to force anything, he simply allows things to proceed in their own way. Control is the desire to push the universe into a channel that it does not want to follow, liberty is the peaceful acceptance of the fact that you are simply following the path that the universe opens up before you.
Socialism "of the Russian variety" (Communism) and "of the German variety" (Fascism), but they are still both forms of socialism, both forms of collectivism, and both opposed to the spontaneous order which arises when men are left free to do as they please and property rights are respected.
Redistributionism - legitimized theft practiced in various forms including communism, socialism, fascism, feudalism, mixed economy, and others. They differ by how they are executed and how much of an individuals earned wealth is confiscated. On the far right of the spectrum you keep all your wealth and on the far left you keep none of it.
Nailed it!!!
Liberty vs. power. Yes, that must mean that you (like all real anarchist) are against capitalism?
Capitalism is the private control of capital (by capitalist – therefrom the term). If you think of capitalism as ‘tabula rasa’ – everyone starts out the ‘competition’ on equal footing – then it starts out as a meritocracy. The best, brightest, most talented and/or hard-working will have the chance to create and accumulate capital. That’s the primary argument for capitalism – it facilitates a completion among equals that gives incentive and rewards to those who work hard or smart.
The problem is time. Over time more and more capital will be accumulated in fewer and fewer hands (think Monopoly). And the capital will be inherited by people who have not worked hard/smart and/or who have not taken any risks to acquire the capital.
Capital is power. Those with power can (and history clearly shows will) infringe on the liberty of others.
A private company is like a mini-dictatorship. There is no ‘liberty’ inside a corporation – only the word/orders from your master. You can chose – if there’re other alternatives to gain a livelihood – to leave, but in reality most people are (indirectly – if the want to eat, sleep under a roof or wear clothes) forced to sell their labor to the capitalist class. There’s a very big difference between the de jure liberty that you endorse (some abstract ‘rights’ – that are only rights as long as there is power to uphold them) and de facto liberty (actual liberty to form ones life). Capitalism is a hindrance (for the absolute majority) in relation to the latter.
Capitalism is God's infinite power. Bother to read its inventor's "Theory of Moral Sentiments."
Those who serve Satan invented all the other isms in order to subvert Capitalism and the true and prophesied "Israel," America.
Hey Snyder, it's primarily Jewish Banksters, Neo-Bolshevists, and war profiteers, along with their traitorous white shabbos goyim political tools, who are running the USSA into the ground!
Media Control Charts
https://jasonbayz.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/elitedemographics.png
https://jasonbayz.wordpress.com/2015/07/02/demographics-of-the-american-...
yep - fuck this Snyder guy who doesn't even understand what Zionist are