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From Russia With Love: Assad Unexpectedly Visits Putin In Moscow
On Tuesday, we noted how absurd it is for Saudi foreign minister Adel al-Jubeir to suggest that it will be “difficult” for Iran to play a part in “resolving” Syria’s years-old civil war. Here’s how we put it yesterday:
It's rather strange for the Saudis to make statements like "it will be difficult for Iran to play a role in finding a solution to the conflict." We hate to be the bearers of bad news, but Iran is already playing a role in finding a "solution" - they're summarily wiping out the groups funded by the Saudis on the way to restoring the regime. If anyone is going to have a "difficult" time playing a part, it's the Saudis.
That same logic applies to the US and any of Washington and Riyadh’s regional allies.
With each passing day, the opportunity for the West and the Sunni axis to have some say in Syria’s political future slips away. As we’ve said on a number of occasions, Russia isn’t going to risk the lives of her troops and spend who knows how many tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars only to have the West dictate the terms of any political “transition” which may or may not take place once the smoke has cleared.
Indeed, several Western powers and some of the regional backers of the Sunni extremist groups battling the regime have already admitted that Assad may have to remain in power during a “transitional” period.
Now that Iranian ground troops are poised to take Aleppo in what amounts to a final push to restore Assad’s grip over the country, The Kremlin is already looking at how to go about shaping the country’s political future as Assad traveled to Moscow in what the media says is his first foreign visit since the start of the civil war. At a meeting with Putin, the two leaders discussed the "political process" and reviewed the progress in the fight against "international terrorists." Here’s Bloomberg with more:
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad held talks in Moscow with President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday in his first known foreign visit since the civil war erupted in 2011, underscoring the growing Russian role in the four-year conflict.
Almost a month into a Russian bombing campaign in support of Assad’s forces, Putin told the Syrian leader during the unannounced visit to the Kremlin that “there have been some major positive results in this fight” against the “international terrorists” battling government forces, according to a transcript released by Russia’s government.
Ending the crisis requires “a political process with the participation of all political forces, ethnic and religious groups,” Putin said in comments shown on Russian state television on Wednesday. Assad, thanking Russia for its assistance, said the fight against “terrorism” is the “obstacle against any true political steps that could be taken on the ground.”
Sami Nader, head of the Beirut-based Levant Institute for Strategic Affairs, said the trip to Moscow was Assad’s first foreign visit since the Syrian conflict began with an uprising against the regime in Damascus, and pointed to future Russian strategy ahead of any peace talks.
It’s “Russia’s way of saying he is in our pocket, he is our asset and we will decide whether to keep him,” Nader said. “This is for sure a preparation for a deal and one more attempt by the Russians to embolden their bargaining position.”
And so, just as we said from the beginning, Moscow’s move to muscle the West out of the way militarily has led directly to Russia hijacking the political negotiations as well.
In short: Washington and its regional allies will be allowed to participate in a discussion with The Kremlin, but that’s as far as it goes. Russia will decide Syria’s political future in consultation with Iran and given the strategic importance for Tehran of ensuring that there’s a “friendly” government operating in Damascus, you can bet that whatever the solution ends up being, Washington, Riyadh, Ankara, and Doha will most assuredly not like it.
To the victor go the spoils.
For now, we'll close with one quote from Sergei Karaganov, dean of the Faculty of World Economy and International Affairs at Moscow’s Higher School of Economics, and one amusing picture which we'll leave it to readers to caption (note the ear-to-ear grins).
“The message to the world is that Russia solves problems and you don’t. If you want to solve problems, work with us.”
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The Nobel Prize Winner must be chagrined that his war which has killed over 300,000 Syrians and made refugees of over 4 million, has not prevented Assad from travelling to meet his pal Putin.
Forward - to more arms drops to only the moderate rebels, creatures more mythical than unicorns or peace-loving neocons
We'll start dropping Al Nusra/Al Qaeda/ISIS/ISIL/the Saudis even more weapons.
So that Russia can test its strength under real-life conditions.
And look how HuffPost spreds the government propaganda.
“Syria's conflict began in March 2011 after the government cracked down violently on largely peaceful protests against Assad's rule.”
“U.S. say the Moscow military intervention helps props up Assad and is likely to fan the violence.”
“A week after Russia launched its airstrikes … there has been no strategic victory.”
http://www.aol.com/article/2015/10/21/syrian-president-assad-travels-to-moscow-to-meet-putin/21251846/
Instead of dropping ammo in Syria.....they landed the loaded planes...and left on horseback.
...Vlad to Assad - ... did you bring that hottie wife of yours?
No....but I did bring my Superbowl ring.
For now, we'll close with one quote from Sergei Karaganov, dean of the Faculty of World Economy and International Affairs at Moscow’s Higher School of Economics, and one amusing picture which we'll leave it to readers to caption (note the ear-to-ear grins).
“The message to the world is that Russia solves problems and you don’t. If you want to solve problems, work with us.”
What makes your think Prof. Karaganov, that the USSA wants to solve problems, rather than create them? Just look around the world; anywhere the USSA gets involved, chaos, violence and declining standards of living follow.
IMHO, the Article, and many of the above comments, are rather infantile. In the face of reality and the truth.
Are you going to share that reality and truth with us?
One reality and truth that gets under reported is that Assad waited a VERY long time to invite the Russians to help because he is now a vassal to Putin. He waited until it was obvious he would lose otherwise. Now he is paying homage. The Russians and Iranians may solve the problem (that the US caused) but for Assad it's time to give tribute. I imagine he has mixed feelings at this point, gratitude mixed with loss. If Putin said come to Moscow could he have said "Maybe I can fit it into my schedule next week"?
Hogwash in the sense that Assad has depended on Russia, Iran and the Hezbullah for some time now.
Assad is no "vassal" - he could easily have high-tailed it to Monaco or Switzerland with his family a long time ago but has stuck it out.
Russia depends on Assad standing firm, else the West wins and Russia loses their gas monopolies, not to mention one of their only warm water naval bases...
Someone who has power over you (even the power of quitting) is no longer a vassal.
If you want "vassal", look no further than Angela Merkel.
Who says who's in charge of subtext. Maybe Assad is finally in a position to leave his bunker, and is merely choosing to thank Putin and show his support for all the help he is getting. I know that sounds naiive to the twisted minds of the neocon, but the world used to run on Diplomacy.
The photo looks kinda funny. Is Putin standing in a hole?
Assad never left Moscow these past 4 years.
Uh... Please get a clue... No one unexpectedly visits Putin.
the world is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucked up.
according to plan, the treasonous, sociopath, NWO scumbags have fucked up everything sooooooooooooooooooo fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucking bad that it's just incomprehesible.
If there is a God, then...The stage is being set. Evacuation of those in parameter of bull's eyes is underway. As we know, vegetable/fruit/tree seeds were requested and received by Syrians from the infamous "seed vault," and their young men (sperm) sent away from zone of debris field. And now, the leader leaving his station. Probably has taken 14 years to get to this point as America's brightests knew on 912 their government was lying to them. This route would be necessary due to spy apparatus, double agents and corrupt judicial system. Also, igniting Samson Option in major cities would occur if US govt was involved in the
coup d'etat a) when militia storm the government HQ and cease control of a country. b) When a government is discredited by its' actions enough for them to be forced by thier people to hand over power, since no-one is listening to them. b) The house-arrest of Mikhail Gorbachev was ended by Boris Yeltsins' coup d'etat in which he campaigned against the USSR government of which he was a member with the people on his side and the military disobeying thier oders to prevent the people, thus securing the military on his side. by Kung-Fu Jesus May 02, 2004 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=coup+d%27etat&defid=64704...LOL so the definition of not being a vassal is if you have enough assets to run and hide? Don't get me wrong I'm no fan of what my country (which is now unrecognizable to me) has done with its power plays in the rest of the world but Russia isn't in Syria for warm hugs a fuzzy feelings. Putin now owns part of Assad and he's too much of a world leader to let it be forgotten. The fact that Merkel is also a vassal and does the will of her liege lord doesn't negate the point that Assad would have preferred to solve the mess on his own and owe his position to no one. That wasn't possible so he wisely chose being a protectorate of Russia to what the CIA had in store for him. Vlad may be more rational than the Kenyan guy but I wouldn't want to owe my soul to him. Assad now owes the Russians and the Iranians more than he did a year ago and neither will lose track of the balance sheet.
What's so hard to figure out that isn't already on the table. Russia has its only warm water port in Syria, and Gazprom wants to be the sole delivery pipleline to Europe. Assad and Putin have ALREADY worked that out. No Mystery. Its the US and the West who want something different.
First learn the difference between vassal and allies. Syria is an ally of Russia since last decade and had they been russia vassals russiand would be influencing their nation policies and activities which they.don't do unlike US who calls its partners as free countries making their choices bit guess what facts state otherwise. US sanctioning French companies for doing busimess with Cuba etc.why because US sanctions were placed on them and in return your free partners or vassals end up paying 800 million to 8 billion $ money in fines and then you force your free partners to cancel their contracts with third party because we assholes are on a warpath against them. Thats what vassals do when their overlords tell them to.
Were you born that stupid or did you have to work on it? Get your facts straight sheeple murkan.
Syria is lucky to have an Ally like Russia. Russia is lucky to have an Ally like Syris.
Russia's interests in supporting Syria's current establishment stretch far beyond the simpleton reasoning involving "vassals" and "oil/gas pipes". Russia understands that this is a question of highest national interest because of the underlying context of ZATO's actions in the past 20+ years, like placing missile systems in countries that only yesterday were a part of The Warsaw Pact.
If you consider Pentagram's "domino" theory of Syria - Lebanon - Iran - Russia (and see this), then Russia's actions ought to make more sense, regardless of one's previous knowledge of geopolitics.
The timing had nothing to do with either Putin or Assad. They have both wanted an opportunity for Russia to intervene for several years. Putin had to wait until the US had further isolated itself. Putin would not have acted without the quiet acquiessence of Europe. The refugee crisis provided that He started meeting with European leaders soon after the crisis became big news in Western media.
Yes I hope he does enlighten us, I am always interested in an alternate point of view that doesn't sound like Zionist blather.
Assad should bring little stuff of any real value. Just ask Robert Kraft.
I guess the down voters aren't aware that Kraft allowed Putin to try on his Super Bowl ring and Putin kept it and denied having it.
I am always amazed that Kraft would even talk about it. It showcases an impressive naivete paired with an inability to see a few moves ahead. He should have noticed that Putin admired it, offered it as a gift, and cemented a powerful freindship for life. But no, he just got a cocktail party jibe. Fail.
Exactly, he should have set up some photo sessions where Putin could have played some QB and run some TD routes where he passes to himself for the TD. It would have saved some PR costs for Russia.
Plus he could have gotten some exclusive expansion rights into Russia for his American football business.
That is the problem with American Welfare CEOs. They just have no entramanuerial spirit any more. Armand Hammer would not have made that mistake....
you mean his food biz... they love that mayo!
I don't think Putin "admired" the hokey ring, except as a token he could use to cut the pompus, annoying, faux-macho, zino-american crew down a notch and get them out of his office. Like every strike by Vlad, it was wildly successful.
Yes, the ring is on display at the Kremlin along with other such memorabilia.
An amusing American fairy tale not grounded in reality.
But hey, if such myths serve as a salve for your butthurt, might as well easen the burning sensation...
she is a beautiful woman
"The US says..."
From experience, usually when a statement begins like that, you can already bet on the opposite being closer to the truth.
Right. Therefore: "Konashenkov said: Last night the drones registered nine SUVs with mounted machine-guns arriving at the scene. A Sukhoi Su-34 bomber attacked the installation with a guided KAB-500 air bomb, which wiped the target out with everything that was inside.”
The US is very fond of drones. Here's a reaper(?) in action(*) in Syria.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_tSlQUe7oQ
* By action I mean running away as fast as possible.
Let’s stop the stupid flag waving! (Saker rant)http://thesaker.is/lets-stop-the-stupid-flag-waving-saker-rant/
I bet my 2c that Assad is going to ask Putin what to do with this Israeli general they've captured yesterday together with ISIS butchers
link?
That would be too juicy. Way more juicy than just SAS being caught and or killed.
Veterans Today
Captured by the IRAQ Army and this seems to be the only source for the story;
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/19/breaking-israeli-general-command...
That would be truly glorious but VT are about as credible as Jim Cramer.
Duff admitting that a large % of info on VT is false.
see 1:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m-ZY0R1HdQ
Damn, that really happened? How come Debkafile isn't all over it?
the biggest reason for this sea change (for the US) is that we want access to iranian oil now that saudi oil is in great decline.
it is the same reason for making nice with iran to begin with.
Which is why a move to Trump seems best... cut deals with the new Iran/Russian/Iraq oil block and instead take over Saudi oil completely
Obama is Putins bitch
Obama, and every president before him are the MIC's and WS's biatch.
All wars are Bankster wars.
there fixed it for you
The entire DC group of NeoClowns aren't worthy of licking Putin's ass...
Ruskies under criminal putin regime rule get only more poorer and poorer while putin regime elite enjoys western luxuries.
In this video material (and for those who understand Russian I can recommend to follow this account) it is informed that Russian babushkas are freezing in winter because they can’t afford firewood. So there are volunteers that give away free firewood to these people.
https://youtu.be/mQpSmiIckRU?t=3m10s
That’s good. But this is not in this century for “superpower” like Russia that people receive pension 85 EUR a month! Yes you read that right! 85 EUR a month – not day, not week but 85 EUR a month! How can one live with such money? Well, they can’t so there are volunteers that give away free potato and free firewood. There millions of people who live such pathetic lives under criminal putin regime.
So few conclusions:
Russia is not a superpower if its citizens live such pathetic lives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OscXu88aSXU
Russian live such pathetic lives because they live under criminal putin regime rule that steals away Russian money. They live under criminal putin regime rule because they are under putins propaganda spell. So they don’t stand up against it.
Here’s an article about how russkies freez up because they are too poor to have heating at home - there are millions of people out there in Russia with this problem:
Russian Elderly to Receive Firewood Via Crowdfunding, Not Government SubsidiesStill, criminal putin regime steals money and spends on war in Syria. And that all to get away russkies attention from failed war in Ukraine.
Oh the tangled webs we weave, when we FIRST practice to decieve.
More of the tiresome anti Putin propaganda manufactured out by the USSA controlled NGO's in Kiev, and parrotted by the usual Ukie idiots.
"anti Putin propaganda manufactured out by the USSA controlled NGO's in Kiev"
That was russian TV channel reporting about millions of poor ruskies that have 85 EUR pension a month and can't afford heating during cold winter.
LOL :D
Now criminal Kiev regime paid trolls showed their real face - yes they are FOR starvation, freezing and death of old ladies.
Now you can judge about them and values they cherish. Yes, they are evil criminal maniacs - just as their leader.
I would be FOR "starvation, freezing and death of old ladies" if I supported criminal putin regime and it's propaganda machine, that has led to this pathetic situation under which ruskies live - but as I am not supporting criminal putin regime and it's propaganda machine - one can not claim I am FOR "starvation, freezing and death of old ladies". I am against crimina putin regime and situation that he has created for ruskies. Those who support criminal putin regime - like you and your colleagues - putin paid troll - those support "starvation, freezing and death of old ladies" because they not only doesn't stand up against such injustice - but even gives a helping hand to it.
So - you have failed - again!
-36 so far on the first comment of this troll from Kiev.
Truth doesn’t care about votes. Truth doesn’t change because of some votes. So I don’t care about that. Especially because I know where I am – at criminal putin regime propaganda asset which full of paid criminal putin regime paid trolls that spread disinformation and propaganda. And I am aware that here are people who are under criminal putin regime propaganda spell and I know there are few who has not lost their mind in it. And I see progress that some people wake up from this putin regime propaganda that is spread in west through “alternative media” as ZH. So that is why I will continue to bring truth based on facts. Because if there is even only one person who wakes up from putin propaganda spell – that is a victory! I can be banned as much as they want – I will keep returning here. Again and again. Because truth is what makes people free – and I stand for that. That is my principles and that is what motives me to fight against putin regime crimes and propaganda lies.
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C'mon, people, we can see that we live in kleptocratic oligarchies ourselves without pretending Russia is any different. Has Putin overthrown the oligarchs the Zios installed duing Yeltsin's drunken reign?
I can well believe Grannies are freezing to death in Russia; it happen in the US and UK, too, and Russia is a lot, lot colder.
At the moment Russia is less evil that ZATO. But does anyone genuinely believe that if the US disappeared overnight, Russia would not eventualy start throwing its weight around?
Governments are CRIMINAL enterprises, and the bigger they are, the more they tend to abuse their power.
Do grannies in UK have to live for a month with only 85 EUR in their pocket? That’s not enough even for food - not to mention clothing, heating, etc.
It's not about cold temperature - it's about how criminal oligarch regime ruled by putin - steals money from russians and uses in it's war games and elite luxaries.
Big Jim "Has Putin overthrown the oligarchs the Zios installed duing Yeltsin's drunken reign?"
Yes he has. So what's your point? I've put up links so many times that clearly tell the story. Boris Behrezovsky ran the Kremlin. Michael Kordorkovsky ran Yukos. Signed his shares over to the Rothchilds on arrest. Yes, those Rothchilds. Michael Cherney, best friend of Avigdor Lieberman, former owner of Russia's largest private company, hides in Israel and can only return to Russia if he wants to sit in prison. Vladimir Gusinsky. You're pushing Zionist talking points when you say Putin is owned by Russian-Jewish oligarchs. The record, if you are not too lazy to take a look shows otherwise.
In this thread message tells us to ignore "alternative media" -- becuase our MSM is so accurate.
Explain to us why we should take your advice, when you advocate for believing what the BBC and CNN tells us?
So who wrote your prepared statements?
It would be nice if they brought their cameras to the US to show all the people living in tent cities, in their cars, or on the streets as a comparison to those poor babushkas.
"at criminal putin regime propaganda"
Can this be AnAnonymous' Ukrainian cousin? Weird frash back I got when I was reading this.
pods
Close, but no cigar...
This retarded cousin is from Latvia.
You're a retard. Whatever they pay you, it's way too much.
You think your nonsense will cause anyone to see the Ukraine in a more favorable light? I can only imagine how poor and fucked up and nearly frozen the Ukrainians will be this winter, even with Russia continuing to give you ungrateful cunts fuel, when really all they should do is let you fucks freeze and starve to death.
You're a dumb cunt who's wasting his or her time pissing into the wind.
MESSAGE wanted to say:
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I would be am FOR "starvation, freezing and death of old ladies" because I am supported criminal Kiev regime and it's propaganda machine, that has led to this pathetic situation under which stupid Ukies live - but as I am supporting criminal Kiev regime and are working for it's propaganda machine - one can only claim I am FOR "starvation, freezing and death of old ladies". I am against crimina Kiev regime and situation that he has created for Ukies. Those who support criminal Kiev regime - like I and the trololo who is are next to me sitting - paid Kiev/CIA troll - those support "starvation, freezing and death of old ladies" because they not only doesn't stand up against such injustice - but even gives a helping hand to it.
So - I have failed - again!
Well, part of Ukraine is free from criminal putin regime and they are dealing with corruption roots that are still there from old system. But they are not fucked up as ruskies under criminal putin regime - people of Ukraine has a chance and that is a hope.
So troll harder :D
And by free -- you mean conscripting people with no arms:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-17/ukraine-army-drafts-disabled-ma...
Perhaps he was to be drafted as a landmine tester?
Does working with ISIS give the Ukraine regime extras dickhead points?
https://theintercept.com/2015/02/26/midst-war-ukraine-becomes-gateway-eu...
Ukraine - where Nazis, ISIS and Baltic potato eaters come together as one.
Nappy headed baltic shoeboy got banned 7 times . He is such a rebel! Moderate Rebel isnt it Latvian ?
No gives a fuck about you or the Ukraine, asshole.
An aborted stepchild's freak of nature would gain more sympathy than you. Not Poland, not Europe, not the United Fakes, unless they can rape and embarrass you and turn you into a colony of feudal serfs. Keep sucking off Kolmoisky he's a real Ukrainian patriot, even more so than Yatenyuk, Poroshenko and the numerous non-Ukrainians making up your govt.
"No gives a fuck about you or the Ukraine, asshole."
Only thing is - in reality there are two pages as reply to my comments :D yeah... no one care... right :D
putin trolls went mad mode :D
You comments level of Ukrainians. Congratulations. Or condolences.
Hey Message, for someone who's been on zerohedge for a whole six weeks, you have a big mouth. Read more of these posts over time before handing us your garbage.
I've been on ZH for more like 5 years. First 3 years like under putin regime spell and those lies ZH with it's trolls spread - than after wake up - more like 2 years exposing ZH as putin regime propganda asset.
When I was under putin regime propaganda spell they never banned me -after wake up - they have banned my account many many times.
I don't care about that. Still will bring truth out.
You just sound dumb.
So if we use the same logic and look at the US and the millions on welfare / dead broke / out of control homelessness (and rising, but don't feed them or help them. Otherwise u go to jail based on US laws) then we can draw the same conclusions about the USSA, no? Atleast in Russia u can help the needy and not be sent to prison. Not true for the USSA - fact.
Hey Message,
Go see how people live in Detroit. Compare & contrast with the Hamptons. Then get back to me.
You might think I'm wrong, but I just spent a week in Kiev (not long, I know), and met a lot of people who were pro-and-anti Putin and the West.
But they uniformly hated Porky and the Tribe-controlled government.
So, although I am a big fan of Vladimir Vladimirovich, I can't help but think that a lot of the Russia hate is being fired up by a particular group who are willing to fight right down to the last Ukrainian to destroy the traditions and religion of the Russians. I just wish the Ukrainians would step back and think about who their REAL enemy is.
no, I don't think you are wrong regarding Putin
just recently I had to travel to Moscow, and I was surprised how many Russians I met that were very critic of Putin-the-man...
... while being fully behind his policies, particularly his foreign policy decisions
can't really say anything of why so many Americans are such big fans of Putin. I'd hazard the guess that it's more about Obama/the Dems then anything else
It's the same with Merkel. Most Germans should by now have realized who really controls the chancellor and her distasterous policies of recent months, and thus they look for someone who is not controlled and steered by DC and admire that person. Moscow is one of the few remaining places that isn't and that helps Putin to score a lot of points, I guess only a few people on ZH have actually ever travelled to Russia or speak the language. But this fact weighs strongly even for me.
When Putin does eventually invade the Ukraine, I hope you are on the first train to Siberia.
Don't worry, Message will be there to greet the 'invading russians' with Cheers, Vodka and Flowers.
But no potato, since potato is still ... just dream.
I'm considering moving the family to Kiev, BTW. And if and when the Russian forces were to come into our neighborhood, that is EXACTLY what we'd be doing. My half-Ukrainian/half-Russian wife identifies more with her Russian side, mostly because of the outright lies propagated in the West. Of course, we could just bag the whole thing and move to Russia right off, but there are business considerations that would make a Kiev location more favorable at the moment.
Sure wish I had a crystal ball. . .
good luck with what u decide....
Don't reward him with bringing him to Siberia. Just let him rot where he is, in Ukraine or relocate him to West Philly which essentially comes close to a death sentence. But Siberia, no.
Pripyat
With a cookie from Victoria in his left hand, a Roshen bar in his right.
Just got the word, Targ, they're moving in 700 "refugees" across the street from us into the school sport hall. I don't think Leipzig is going to do it.
If you own your home -- burn it down before your property prices get killed.
Put a Camera on your house, and start releasing footage here on ZH (or at least PM it to me on Youtube) of the shitheads trying to steal your stuff.
I had a bunch of links somewhere to sites where people post their pictures from the so called "Chernobyl exclusion zone" which includes Pripyat too. Eerie, I must say. The worst place radioactive wise is the basement of the central hospital in Pripyat, IIRC, radiation levels are pretty high.
It won't happen. The only way for Ukraine to survive is to declare war on Russia and promptly surrender.
"Ruskies under criminal putin regime rule get only more poorer and poorer while Putin regime elite enjoys western luxuries."
Now replace Ruskies with Americans and Putin with Obama.
"Americans under criminal Obama regime rule get only more poorer and poorer while Obama regime elite enjoys western luxuries."
See how that works?
Now criminal putin regime paid trolls showed their real face - yes they are FOR invasion of other countries, occupations and deportation.
Now you can judge about them and values they cherish. Yes, they are evil criminal maniacs - just as their leader.
Deportation -- listen Amethyst van der Troll -- if I had my way, deportation would be the last of your concerns.
Your cut/paste posts seem to be getting ever more desperate.
Does it really distress you that much that the criminal, mercenary head-chopping terrorists, recruited/trained/paid and funded by Western .govs and their corrupt sub-human friends in Saudi and Qatar are finally being routed from Syria by the goodwill of Putin?
Ah you cruel, cruel people...
Why don't you show some pity on this poor tormented soul that is reaching out in pain?
He'll feel the pain when columns of Russian tanks roll into Latvia and head for RIGA.
ha-ha-ha
Latvian impossible dream is Russian invasion. Latvia nobody wants. Russia want? Do not want. "Syrian refugees" want? Do not want.
Latvians want? Do not want, urgently emigrating for bright European future cleaning toilets for Poles and Romanians.
Only Latvians remaining in Latvia are in prison, in mental ward and retarded. Like Mr. Potatohead here trolling.
You did not get the MESSAGE ? Fuck off you pathetic troll.
Careful. Puns are illegal in China... ;)
You're still here? I haven't seen you for several days, so I thought you were banned for your agressive trolling, Mr. Latvian Bot.
Read this.
With Just $10 "You're Wealthier Than 25% Of Americans"
I'd say 100% of Russians are wealthier than 25% of Americans.
Tylers:
Maybe we need to start doing captions to post, this will maybe limit most comments to humans.
JACKPOT! :D
I love to see mad trolls who serve to criminal putin regime! That is also one of reasons why I like this place :D
Truth, facts and pointing out how poor and failed state is russia - are what makes putin trolls mad :D
You can see that here
ha ha ha :D
What do you say now, the victim of maternal alcoholism?
clearly you have never been to the deepest parts of Kentucky or your local Native American Reservation.
How many Middle Eastern heads of state have visited Russia in the last few months? I can already think of 5: The Iranians, Syrians, Israelis, Egyptians and Saudis.
So much for "Russia is isolated" being spewed by Western media
We didn't really see pictures of the others...Sisi, Bibi, et al. I would add the Greek PM to that list, btw.
I think this is being used as a signal to the important observers - Germany, Italy, Greece - Israel, maybe - that things have improved enough for Assad that Assad can travel.
Off-topic but, it's always seemed to me that the endless insult-fanning that goes on here and elsewhere to keep the Greeks and Germans at each others throats is because THOSE TWO getting together is the real threat to control of the nat gas in the Eastern Med for Europe's benefit. Which is in nobody else's interest except Europe. The Germans really seem to lack imagination, truly.
Putin doesnt seem that smart. Backing Assad, he has lost the "isis" counter-terror momentum (people around the globe started to believe that nonsense). Finally, the US was right: putin is not in syria to stop isis but to back assad.they said it long time ago. Probably that is the reason US does not get involved, it's time for poor russia to back assad and pay that bill. Very clever US move because it's clear that Assad will not be able to restore anything and russia will need to provide more and more resources being far away from their homeland. The more they will send the better.
With 30 planes and 1500 soldiers nothing is going to change there. Syria is a big trap and putin has fallen into it. Iran is easier to control, just talking about sanctions will make them think twice.
The rest is just stupid propaganda. How many targets were hit, how great mig-29 is, bla, bla,bla.
Again, smart move from obama.
Putin is smart, he avoids getting entangled in a ground war, that is for the Syrians, Hezbollah and the Iranians to do as part of their agreement.
Only morons like the US administration can waste trillions of dollars on pointless invasions like Iraq and Afghanistan.
I thought Russia was supposed to be bankrupt and isolated by now according to CNN? LOL!
Zerohedge has been shouting about US bankrupcy since 2009 - first day - that is.
But I have not read CNN material about Russia being bankrupt in 2015. Can you post a link to that? No, you can't - you are just a pathetic putin troll.
Explain to me your knowledge of ZH ca., 2009 -- with your 6 week membership here.
Your time and effors are better spent on CNN and the Guardian. Here you are just gonna get called out on your bullshit until you either give up or piss off the Tylers enough to get banned.
shouting about US bankrupcy since 2009
When you can print money.....you can never really go BK.
Hi,
Mein Name ist "Weimar Republik"
kennen wir uns schon?
All the *marks went into Witness Protection. You know them as $.
I think the ussa has long ago passed the bankrupt status,,, see below,,, item C
(including Item 2. Just change "person" to Nation )
Bankrupt: Definition
a : a person who has done any of the acts that by law entitle creditors to have his or her estate administered for their benefit b : a person judicially declared subject to having his or her estate administered under the bankrupt laws for the benefit of creditors c : a person who becomes insolvent 2: a person who is completely lacking in a particular desirable quality or attribute <a moral bankrupt> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bankruptUnless you are an import society.
sure, he does not want to get too many soldiers on the ground but it's not up to him. If Assad does not get his country back very soon, putin will be in a terrible position. So, he has to be commited to backing Assad. Iran is not a problem, they are desperate for a better relation with the West. think if Turkey and Israel will get involved. 30 jets from the 80's will do the job for a country lthe size of Syria? either putin got mental issues and lost touch with reality, or he has the support from EU.
For US is the best scenario: watch russkies tanks being blown by TOWs. That explains russian anger by the constant US refusal. Like in footbal, they got them in "offsaid".:)
I think you are confused -- the weapons that the US gave to ISIS & Al Qaeda are getting blow into nothing at the moment. Current Russian casualty count -- zero.
:)) you funny. Assad forces lost up to 30% of their tanks in the last days. all brand new shipped from russia and paid by russians from their poor 300 dollar/month salary.
Just youtube TOW and syria 2015 and see. It's just crazy. Chek the institute of war and related sites.
Americans wanted for each TOW used in combat a video to confirm. So, not a bad deal for US. Putin doesnt sleep if Assad troups get busted not obama. He doesnt care:))
Well, that's chess.
Here is another good site to watch:
http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/
Mandea, you should get promoted at The Pentagon. Guys like you really know what's going on and should be nearer Obama to keep him briefed. With in-depth knowledge like you have the US is always going to be top dog. You really know your stuff ! Are you Ashton Carter ?
sure, thanks a lot for your positive attitude!
This mandea is not in pentagon. Just a butthurt Romanian.
But hey, at least he has cheap Latvian labor keeps toilet clean.
Hisbollah can mop up ISIS.
http://fortruss.blogspot.de/2015/10/watch-out-russian-jet-flies-past-us....
http://sputniknews.com/videoclub/20151015/1028540158/russian-airstrike-f...
You're making up shit, again, mandea.
Aren't they the best of friends? Does this ring a bell?
Then you say this
Sanctions didn't work with Cuba, North Korea, Russia but you think they've worked in Iran. The Iranian people hate the West more than the Government does.
Photoshopped markings, undated, undetermined locations. Of course it is the best scenario for the US.
They are the ones who doctored the videos.
TO CONVINCE BIRDBRAINS LIKE YOU THAT THEY ARE REALLY WINNING THE WAR AGAINST ISIS, WHOM THEY CREATED.
US bought its allies in Afghan - Northern Alliance - who then sold them inmates for their new Zoo at Gitmo. India and Pakistan fighting a proxy war in Afghan with 40% Taliban being Pakistanis. The whole mess was typical for the US that is clueless about tribal societies and is always looking for someone they can buy
Well from a tactical point of view first you secure your rear area and then you go after more distant targets, unless of course you are a idiot.
Strategically watch them roll Isis back across Syria then Iraq. The result will ideally be a friendly band from the Meditranian to Afghanistan that insulates the Caucasus and Central Asia from Saudi sponsored extremism and American imperial designs on pipelines and control of resources in Central Asia. For the Americans all that will be left for them is Afghanistan and that's why they can't pull their troops out now.
We all know Afghanistan as the grave yard of empires. I wonder why so many empires end up there?
Anyhow, interesting times.
I wonder why so many empires end up there?
That's like asking why cockroaches survive nuclear war. Afghanistan is nothing but the place the Russian Empire met the Persian Empire met the British Empire. It is the overlap region of hill tribes and primitive life with no real urban living. If you like illiteracy, tribal violence and child abuse you have nothing to fear from more sophisticated invaders.
"Obama" and "Smart" in the same sentence.
Mandea is the poster child for delusional.
ROFLOL.
He's a genius, our half-breed sword swallower. Give him the Peace prize again.
You forgot your /sarc tag
But what about the 12 moths the US coalition wasted pretending to attack ISIS?
When all they were doing was buying munitions from American manufacturers.
And then to say that the reason they didn't attack the tanker trucks transporting ISIS oil to the market was because they didn't think the locals would like it.
No, sir, Putin has shoveled "The Axis of Obama" into the toilet from whence it came.
All that remains is some grand ceremony for the flushing of it into the sewers of history where nitwits like you could read about it.
The Bear is moving in from the North, the Persians in from the East. Iraqis wake up and realize the US is covertly using Iraq as a staging area for their Middle East spooks and spies and cares not about Iraq....Iraq wakes up and goes to Russia. ISIS gets pushed back to, I dunno, Saudi Arabia.
Then we will see who is so smart.
This is it, this is the Geo Political Superbowl for the Middle East Power Grab.
Awesome!
Yes mutti, work with the east, Hungary and Russia, insted of Greeks, the UN, and asylum seekers. Bitch.
who is the bigger maggot, assad, or the sauds?
POTUS
Thanks Obama, for flooding our country, and the rest of Europe, with uncountable refugees........well done. You end with Nothing in Syria !!
You mean terrorists.....fixed it for you.
It's ok. They're "moderate turrusts"!
But, they're not even half as dangerous as USA domestic extremists.
And the reason is [ for you white, rural and relatively less educated voters....] Read...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/10/19/the-nra-will...
Not only gun control will be enacted but just about everything else built by hard working Americans, of all colors, that came here legally ( including many hard working blacks that don't agree with the never ending whining about past wrongs ) and wanted a real future will be destroyed by these illegal groups with their steal it all agenda. Once gone the ussa will be a shithole just like the nations they originated from.
Ouch!! Talk about slap to the face. That Rootin' Putin way of saying "In Your Face, Obozo..."
love the body language of assad. a hint of a bow as if to say thanks for saving my bacon again. he's taller so that's part of it but not the whole methinks.
Take away the shoe shine box underneath Vlad and Assad would be on his knees.