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From Russia With Love: Assad Unexpectedly Visits Putin In Moscow
On Tuesday, we noted how absurd it is for Saudi foreign minister Adel al-Jubeir to suggest that it will be “difficult” for Iran to play a part in “resolving” Syria’s years-old civil war. Here’s how we put it yesterday:
It's rather strange for the Saudis to make statements like "it will be difficult for Iran to play a role in finding a solution to the conflict." We hate to be the bearers of bad news, but Iran is already playing a role in finding a "solution" - they're summarily wiping out the groups funded by the Saudis on the way to restoring the regime. If anyone is going to have a "difficult" time playing a part, it's the Saudis.
That same logic applies to the US and any of Washington and Riyadh’s regional allies.
With each passing day, the opportunity for the West and the Sunni axis to have some say in Syria’s political future slips away. As we’ve said on a number of occasions, Russia isn’t going to risk the lives of her troops and spend who knows how many tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars only to have the West dictate the terms of any political “transition” which may or may not take place once the smoke has cleared.
Indeed, several Western powers and some of the regional backers of the Sunni extremist groups battling the regime have already admitted that Assad may have to remain in power during a “transitional” period.
Now that Iranian ground troops are poised to take Aleppo in what amounts to a final push to restore Assad’s grip over the country, The Kremlin is already looking at how to go about shaping the country’s political future as Assad traveled to Moscow in what the media says is his first foreign visit since the start of the civil war. At a meeting with Putin, the two leaders discussed the "political process" and reviewed the progress in the fight against "international terrorists." Here’s Bloomberg with more:
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad held talks in Moscow with President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday in his first known foreign visit since the civil war erupted in 2011, underscoring the growing Russian role in the four-year conflict.
Almost a month into a Russian bombing campaign in support of Assad’s forces, Putin told the Syrian leader during the unannounced visit to the Kremlin that “there have been some major positive results in this fight” against the “international terrorists” battling government forces, according to a transcript released by Russia’s government.
Ending the crisis requires “a political process with the participation of all political forces, ethnic and religious groups,” Putin said in comments shown on Russian state television on Wednesday. Assad, thanking Russia for its assistance, said the fight against “terrorism” is the “obstacle against any true political steps that could be taken on the ground.”
Sami Nader, head of the Beirut-based Levant Institute for Strategic Affairs, said the trip to Moscow was Assad’s first foreign visit since the Syrian conflict began with an uprising against the regime in Damascus, and pointed to future Russian strategy ahead of any peace talks.
It’s “Russia’s way of saying he is in our pocket, he is our asset and we will decide whether to keep him,” Nader said. “This is for sure a preparation for a deal and one more attempt by the Russians to embolden their bargaining position.”
And so, just as we said from the beginning, Moscow’s move to muscle the West out of the way militarily has led directly to Russia hijacking the political negotiations as well.
In short: Washington and its regional allies will be allowed to participate in a discussion with The Kremlin, but that’s as far as it goes. Russia will decide Syria’s political future in consultation with Iran and given the strategic importance for Tehran of ensuring that there’s a “friendly” government operating in Damascus, you can bet that whatever the solution ends up being, Washington, Riyadh, Ankara, and Doha will most assuredly not like it.
To the victor go the spoils.
For now, we'll close with one quote from Sergei Karaganov, dean of the Faculty of World Economy and International Affairs at Moscow’s Higher School of Economics, and one amusing picture which we'll leave it to readers to caption (note the ear-to-ear grins).
“The message to the world is that Russia solves problems and you don’t. If you want to solve problems, work with us.”
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you'll notice that all of vlad's men are hobbits
Yep, I spotted Snap, Crackle and Pop. Good move with the Jolly Greent Giant in front.
Beats the reptiles nesting in DC.
Here you are the connoisseur of harry feet, buzz.
"love the body language of assad. a hint of a bow as if to say thanks for saving my bacon again."
Assad's hint of a bow is because he is polite. That's how it's done between high-ranking officials.
Not to mention he is really tall.
Criminal putin has troll body :D so tiny, so fragile:
Left a little short: Putin left red-faced as Kremlin photo gaffe exposes his small heightSo he tries to compensate that with some gay workout with his "buddy" :D
Lots of people think Putin and Russian PM look like a gay couple in these photosHave you ever used your brain ¿
The guy is a 9th degree black belt in Judo.
Chuck Norris as an 8th degree.
So tiny and so fragile he can kick your stupid little punk ass with one hand, fucknuts.
His black belt is just as real as this game where he plaid :D
https://youtu.be/QG7VGsyx8GQ
Ha ha ha :D
Ou yeah his like more this guy:
https://youtu.be/gEDaCIDvj6I
ha ha ha :D
yeah... that guy who is so claimed "master" with fake belts - and than reality kicks in and he gets his face punched! :D
putin soon will have longer list of titles than that north korea guy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kim_Jong-il's_titles
ha ha ha - you putin paid trolls make my day! :D
Is water in Latvia contaminated with LSD? Pay doctor a visit, your case of Putinitis of the visual cortex is severe. Do you see Putin's image in the clouds, too?
So
what's the reason you compensate with your gay workout buddy, message? (is it still Bruce or have you moved on?)
To get a little more of the in 'n out and the up 'n down?
Does anyone else see this as Russia possibly protecting Assad from a last minute Seal Team 6 intervention in Syria?
Seal team six no longer exists because they all died in a helicopter "accident" so they could not ever blow the whistle on the fake raid to "kill" the already long dead Osama bin Laden.
Aren’t Saudi Arabia along with the other Gulf States, Turkey, Israel, Jordan, anti-Syrian Rebels in the US “pocket”? To quote former British Prime Minister Lord Palmerston, “Nations have no permanent friends or allies, they only have permanent interests.”
This is not so much a show of support for Assad (Putin does not care for him other than that he is a useful tool) but Putin saying to the West "up yours". This is all done to annoy and humiliate the West.
For the down voters: this is all geopolitics people. It is about who will control Eurasia as part of that bigger sphere of people, resources and markets that stretch from Western Europe to Vladivostok. Battle lines are being drawn, alliances are being made. People and countries need to think carefully on whose side they will be on. Interpret that the way you want it.
Guess what ? Its not to humiliate west because they have no business in syria at first place and Russia has already expressed to Support Syrian government. Gues what ? Regime Change shitty rotten tricks are failing and it was a humiliation for west when they.got all caught up with their cooked intelligence of chemical weapons attack on syrians meanwhile usa funded terrorists aka rebels were nabbed using those weapons on syrians.
West can fuck.themselves if they are going to call someone's govt illegitimate. Nappy head retards running your country and then your presstitutes claim hey lool how they hate us and still want to come here. Thanks to.your presstitutes for spinning facts and promoting confusion and hatred.
Ahh.. the usual Russian haters trolls appears.
Again guys. Here's the guide that troll use.
http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'
HOWTO fights this? Press REPLY, on 1 (ONE) MASTER THREAD ABOVE THE TROLLS. Comments on that reply box. IT will SLIDE trolls comments DOWNWARD.
Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'
Don't reply when you see 1 THREAD and EACH REPLY inside the read. Supporting the same "planted" FALSE STATEMENTS. Again use reply above the trolls threads and SLIDE those idiots, downward.
Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'
If they reply in YOUR thread? And try to move OOT? Don't reply IN YOUR THREADS. Reply again like POINT.1 counter measures.
Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'
Well.. this is the EASIEST PART. Leave it alone. A troll CAN'T FISHING FOR YOUR ANGER IF YOU DON'T REPLY. Don'yt let them have the upper hands, by making you like ANGERS man, so YOUR COMMENT CREDIBILITY put to question (to other member that saw your comments).
If they DOWNVOTE you? Look. you're not COLLECTING SOMETHING hare. It for you to SHARE & LEARNS. The more you learns? The harder for the trolls tries to influence you.
Read and Learns...
That's ALL
Are you trying to influence me?
:D
I don't know why the shit-for-brains even try. Their tactics might work at CNN but they're sure as fuck not going to work on Zero Hedge.
As we’ve said on a number of occasions, Russia isn’t going to risk the lives of her troops and spend who knows how many tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars only to have the West dictate the terms of any political “transition” which may or may not take place once the smoke has cleared.
Russia won't have to and it's the reason why they are in Syria in the first place.
For the last 4 years Russia has been giving Washington lots of rope to hang itself with some delays and miscalculations along the way like Russia's abstension in UN security council vote on Libya which of course was a mistake... But...
That aside. After the Ukraine misadventure last year it's the West that is out of both time and money and Russia, China and Iran know it only too well.
The U.S. military from top to bottom is a cancerous mess of the worst of the worst running inside of it along with the competence in the technical areas that has been lacking since as far back as 2004. I'm convinced that even with another "9/11" catastrophic event to breath life back into it, it wouldn't be enough to salvage it for another round after 14 years of pernicious damage in leadership and role that's been done!
If you think about it the US could have played this very same role.
And, by that I mean they could have used their invented islamic armies to attack Assad and then rode in like White Knights to save the day and then took control of Syria through back room machinations.
Instead they publicly attacked Assad and announced their plans to oust him from power. They accused him of war crimes and the use of chemical weapons on his own people and literally planned on inserting ZATO ground forces to topple the Assad regime.
If ZATO had used their proxy armies to attack Assad without announcing they were against his regime and then offered to help him they could have peeled Assad off from Iran's influence.
But the idiots were so convinced of their intellect and superiority they couldn't bother. They probably believed Assad would capitulate in the first year and they would control the narrative.
The whole Ukraine fiasco was just to draw Putin in while they took over Syria. It looks as if Putin outsmarted them, stayed out of Ukraine, took over Crimea without a shot and kept his powder dry while ZATO spent its wad in Syria.
The old saying that you can attract more flies with honey than vinegar is as true today as it was in years past.
Now the whole thing has imploded in their face and there's no saving it. It'll now be virtually impossible to not only push Iran out of Syria but the Russians as well.
We may see the house of Saud collapse as well within the next few years as a result.
Hasn't Assad always been in Russia's pocket, just like his dad before him?
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/sep/27/uk.syria1
Nearly 50 years before the war in Iraq, Britain and America sought a secretive "regime change" in another Arab country they accused of spreading terror and threatening the west's oil supplies, by planning the invasion of Syria and the assassination of leading figures. Newly discovered documents show how in 1957 Harold Macmillan and President Dwight Eisenhower approved a CIA-MI6 plan to stage fake border incidents as an excuse for an invasion by Syria's pro-western neighbours, and then to "eliminate" the most influential triumvirate in Damascus
By 1957, despite America's opposition to the Suez move, President Eisenhower felt he could no longer ignore the danger of Syria becoming a centre for Moscow to spread communism throughout the Middle East. He and Mr Macmillan feared Syria would destabilise pro-western neighbours by exporting terrorism and encouraging internal dissent. More importantly, Syria also had control of one of the main oil arteries of the Middle East, the pipeline which connected pro-western Iraq's oilfields to Turkey.
EVERYTHING you see going on with Syria is going according to Grand Master Obama's plan. Pure genius.
EVERYTHING you see going on with Syria is going according to Grand Master Obama's plan. Pure genius.
Actually CH it started with this guy that ripped the pages up of the "cold war" doctrine completely and said we were the only military left on the planet that would deal with a "new threat" that included torture, murder and throwing out Geneva and every other international treaty the U.S. government signed up to after WWII.
Well GUESS WHAT?!!!
A guy who stayed in the Navy just long enough to finish flight training and got out to make millions from corporation(s) like Motorola and Cyril..
Assad baby how you goin?
I love u cause your the only cat in town that has ASS in his name!
Here sit down enjoy the vodka and caviar....
later we go pump pussy.
In Russia, pus... ah never mind. You know the drill.
So Vlad,
How do you solve problem like Obama?
A flibbertigibbet! A will-o'-the wisp! A clown!
Pity there's not a window pane shown in that photo.
You'd see Obummer standing there licking it.
It's a little scary to see how quickly so many here slobber on Putin's shaft forgetting how he came to power and has held onto power, destroying any who were in his way or opposed him. Killing reporters, rigging elections, changing laws and hand picking leaders that will back his power grab. ISIS needs to be destroyed and it's good to see it happen but all you Putin cheerleaders need to wipe off your chins and remember who you're sucking. A tyrant destroys some Arab aholes and suddenly is a hero with all crimes forgotten and forgiven. You people are nuts.
Lies and pot kettle black.
Sure you not talking about William Jefferson Clinton?
...and who's shaft are you slobbering over, son? eh?
I prefer women myself, son. eh? You like Putin in your mouth now but he will leave a bad taste in the end.
fixed it 4 U
You're a clown in the ass.
why obsessed with men parts then?
You sound sore at the admiration Putin has not only on this board, but in Russia and all over the world. No one is a saint. But if you are butthurt that AmeriKan leaders are a bunch of lying, backstabbing, untrustworthy closeted faggots then do something about it other than cry. Putin is the straight white male leader AmeriKa WISHES it had.
How Obama's whores love to talk about Putin's "shaft".
You can see the "desire" dripping out of the corners of their mouth like drool.
LOL,
I thought that was sarcasm as he closely described American policy but miss-labeled the players. Transposition is like ......... a compliment to the CIA. Mission acomplimished ! I can't wait until Obama announces that we won those wars as he lands on that lone Chinese aircraft carrier. I feel just like the wokkie freak the POTUS is "married" to....... /sarc "I'm finally for the first time in my life proud to be an American" \sarc.
/puke "VOTE FOR HILLARY" \puke
THere are actually two messages from Russia:
1.) He's a murderous dictator, but he's our murderous dictator.
2.) Golly, we really wish that we were still big and powerful like the old days.
repeated entry
Our way of doing things here:
Have a murderous president voted in by the sheeple.
We think that Amerika is exceptional...at destabilizing other countries and causing catastrophic wars where millions of innocent are blown to pieces. Just like the good old days?
A third message would be if we try to remove yomutti's head from his anus, his beggarly brain would prolly remain a gobbet of his bowels.
That photograph is priceless and will look good around the world ! The Russians are looking like the good guys, patient and methodical. The use of 26 Kalibr missiles from the Caspian to help the USS Teddy R (26th President) move out of the region was symbolic. The fact that Tu95s can stand off in Russian airspace and fire Kalibr Cruise Missiles at US and Canadia targets 2-3000km away is helpful for the US as is the thought of passing container ships carrying Kalibr missiles into the Gulf of Mexico.
Saudi Arabia is going to fall. It is inevitable and with new Russian airbases in Syria and Iraq it is clear Israel will have its wings clipped. The world is changing and the US is recoiling after creating absolute havoc around the world and is now destabilising Europe. The destruction of Sweden and Germany is a real triumph
"Never let a crisis go to waste." That's right, I'm talking you, WRSA crew.
Yes, I would have to say Obama's record is quite impressive. But let's give credit to Netanyahu, the Neocons, the warmongering, AIPAC asskissing Republicans like McCain, Cruz and Rubio. They deserve credit too.
I guess I should not have blamed McCain - as Putin pointed out, he is likely mentally deranged from his treatment at the hanoi Hilton. Besides, as he is likely ranting about right now - if we would have listened to him, he would have nuked Russia years ago.
you have slight memory lapse... this super achiever:
remember he crashed aircraft first, later nearly sank a carrier...
only managed destroy most everything on deck, aircraft and sailors lives...
later capture is not excuse, was just embelishment
Good man, Bashar....killing US-backed terrorists since 2011!
Dont stop the magic.
Like I keep saying, the only way Israel will ever solve its Arab problem is to join the party of freedom under Putin's Russia.
Why would they do that? Its against their national interests.
I don't think so.
They'd have to give up their policy of 'Kosher Lebensraum'.
Obama last month told Putin to his face that Assad must go.
Now Putin invites Assad to Russia for a visit.
Every move Putin makes is a direct slap in the face to Obama and the U.S. military.
Why do I find it so funny?
Obama should open the border with Mexico and follow Merkel's lead
Its already open.
Because it's a face that was made for slapping.
How dare Assad violate a travel ban imposed by another county thousand of miles away that has no business in his country!
So, Russia is no threat to the Constitution of the United States, nor it it a threat to American's rights. So just why are they our enemy? The government is formed to secure our rights, not be the play thing of some self declared dictator like the presidents we have had lately.
...look at the handshake, then look at photos of other big wigs, with hands open... looking for a handshake.
You need to know what's what... before you can see what's what.
Oh, I thought it was a photo op.
Alright, alright so what's this bullshit about an uprising against the Regime and saying this was a civil war. Maybe you should also say: the uprising was caused by the external countries of Israel, Turkey, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the U.S. And how can you say this is a civil war. When most of the terrorist fighting Assad are mercenaries from all over the world.
"...you can bet that whatever the solution ends up being, Washington, Riyadh, Ankara, and Doha will most assuredly not like it." Hmmmm...so Tel Aviv is going to like it??? What kind of crap is that???
Maybe Tel Aviv can squeeze more US foreign aid out of it.
Nuffin wrong wid dat.
From the isolated and impotent Russians to the all wise and knowing zio-cons: CHECK, from Russia with love, the MATE to follow in due course.
Bitch slap to the magic mulatto. I smiled
Putin gives Obama a wedgie.
Putin could do it literally, particularly as it's similar to Judo, and I'm sure the burlap loincloth aspect would enticing be to Bathhouse, moreover they could resolve their differences on neutral territory... but alas, Patton's propaganda panacea isn't actually allowed, for obvious reasons.
Hard to find a good tailor in Damascus these days.
https://theyoungearth.wordpress.com/2015/10/16/t-rex-soft-tissue-find-of...
Check out the discovery of the centruy yet no one is talking about its very logical and real implications.
Did the desert rose accompany the President to the mother Russia?
Well, Assad is smiling too. And it aint the smile while wetting his pants.
Yep, Russia solves problems. Problems remaining from the ww1 and ww2. Both caused by U.K. and USA.
Namely the borders in the middle east.'''and Israel.
USA follows the STRATFOR strategy (youtube George Friedman)
from 1871 there is that "Deutshcland Frage". uk considers germany too succesful and too threatening for her.
So, war !
Next we have the Deutschland + Russia nightmere which keeps USA uncomfortable.
So Russia and Germany never must come together.
USA already keeps Germany occupied, supervises its media, keeps its gold in New York and forces every new elected chancelor to pay a visist to Washington. (youtube "Die Kanzlerakte).
But Germany is very strong so...
Sanctions because of MH17 won't do it alone. So Volkswagen, ttip, ( and more to come), but also refugees.
In making Europe into a vassal usa has been very succesful.
The goal however is Russia., by creating intermarium (1919) by Pilsudski
Yes, Russia wants to solve problems........ or else.
Web Brigade high priority narrative in here.
Jump higher and aunt Nuland cookie will give.
What !! Assad isn't bowing. Send in Kerry and James Taylor.
Is it just the forced perspective, or is assad a foot and a half taller than that shrimp?
Your head inside anus gives optics to distorted view.
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Big meeting coming up with Kerry,Lavrov,Turkey,Saudi Arabia.I knew this was the start of something because the budget impasse is tight right now with spending restrictions and Treasury being worried,so the timing of this is unique because Biden made the comment of Obama's legacy.Maybe he wants a peace deal out of this and the Russians want the sanctions dropped along with the terrorist funding brought under control.Peace would be negative for oil.http://news.yahoo.com/latest-kerry-lavrov-meet-vienna-syria-133115756.ht...
Prime minister tells World Zionist Congress that Hitler only wanted to expel the Jews
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.681525
Grip? FU; legitimate government .
First of all id like to thank the Tyler's for banning that horrible POS Alfred Neumann from ZH. He was a perfect example of the racist desciminatory people Here who wish to sow discord by being so bombastic to make people not want to read SH anymore.
That being said with this article let the Putin love fest begin.
It's funny, but up until just a few years ago Damascus was an up and coming city in the Middle East. Now, it is a complete and utter shithole for the next 20 years IF Assad can keep it. Otherwise it goes the way of a cross between Riyadh and Somalia and becomes the jumping off point into Europe for the Wahabist Jihadis who like to pound blond Swedish girls.
Only Vladimir Putin can save Europe now because clearly the US and UK cannot (and the Canadians have just downright pussed out).
Got some white stuff there on you upper lip asssad.
Fucking love Putin. Man of honor. Fuck these sell out pieces of shit, haters of their own country men, snakes and snake oil sales man ,vile theifs and murderers, haters and liars we have in the West leading countries. The Rightious will always be stronger than the wicked. It's a law of the Universe. Part of the unseen ether. That's why these scum push degeneracy on the masses, because giVing into vice and evil makes you weak.