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"All Kinds Of Mayhem Will Let Loose" As Strongest El Nino In Decades Looms
September was officially the warmest ever recorded around the globe (the 7th time this year a month has set a record) as El nino is back in a big way. As Bloomberg reports, its effects are just beginning in much of the world -- for the most part, it hasn’t really reached North America -- and yet it’s already shaping up potentially as one of the three strongest El Nino patterns since record-keeping began in 1950. Expect "major disruptions, widespread droughts and floods," warned a senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, adding that without preparation, "all kinds of mayhem will let loose."
September was the warmest ever recorded around the globe, the seventh time this year a month has set a record for average global temperature
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said last month’s global temperature was 60.62 degrees, beating a record set just last year.
In all, seven months this year have set monthly records for global heat, including July, which was the hottest month ever recorded. Only January and April did not set records for global warmth.
It also has been the warmest first nine months of any year ever recorded, dating back to 1880.
NOAA climate scientist Jessica Blunden said it would take an extended cold stretch the rest of the year for 2015 not to pass 2014 as the hottest on record.
With a strong El Niño cycle in place over the Pacific, that appears highly unlikely, as Bloomberg details, the strongest El Nino in decades is going to mess with everything...
It has choked Singapore with smoke, triggered Pacific typhoons and left Vietnamese coffee growers staring nervously at dwindling reservoirs. In Africa, cocoa farmers are blaming it for bad harvests, and in the Americas, it has Argentines bracing for lower milk production and Californians believing that rain is finally, mercifully on the way.
Its effects are just beginning in much of the world -- for the most part, it hasn’t really reached North America -- and yet it’s already shaping up potentially as one of the three strongest El Nino patterns since record-keeping began in 1950. It will dominate weather’s many twists and turns through the end of this year and well into next. And it’s causing gyrations in everything from the price of Colombian coffee to the fate of cold-water fish.
Expect “major disruptions, widespread droughts and floods,” Kevin Trenberth, distinguished senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado. In principle, with advance warning, El Nino can be managed and prepared for, “but without that knowledge, all kinds of mayhem will let loose.”
In the simplest terms, an El Nino pattern is a warming of the equatorial Pacific caused by a weakening of the trade winds that normally push sun-warmed waters to the west. This triggers a reaction from the atmosphere above.
Its name traces back hundreds of years to the coast of Peru, where fishermen noticed the Pacific Ocean sometimes warmed in late December, around Christmas, and coincided with changes in fish populations. They named it El Nino after the infant Jesus Christ. Today meteorologists call it the El Nino Southern Oscillation.
The last time there was an El Nino of similar magnitude to the current one, the record-setting event of 1997-1998, floods, fires, droughts and other calamities killed at least 30,000 people and caused $100 billion in damage, Trenberth estimates. Another powerful El Nino, in 1918-19, sank India into a brutal drought and probably contributed to the global flu pandemic, according to a study by the Climate Program Office of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
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While the effect on the U.S. may not reach a crescendo until February, much of the rest of the world is already feeling the impact, Trenberth said.
“It probably sits at No. 2 in terms of how strong this event is, but we won’t be able to rank it until it peaks out and ends,” said Mike Halpert, deputy director of the Climate Prediction Center in College Park, Maryland.
For Australia, El Nino can often mean drought.
“In broadest terms, though, we have had 26 past El Nino events since 1900, of which 17 resulted in widespread drought, so we in Australia have to manage for drought in any El Nino event,” Watkins said.
But there is some good news for California...
As the atmosphere changes, storm tracks in the U.S., for instance, are pushed down from the north, so the region from California to Florida could get more rain. This is reflected in the latest three-month outlook from the Climate Prediction Center, which sees high odds that heavy rain will sweep from California into the mid-Atlantic states through January. Texas and Florida have the greatest chance for downpours.
While this isn’t likely to end California’s four-year drought, it would improve conditions. Eliminating the dryness completely will be difficult because the state is so far behind on its normal rainfall.
However...
“If the wettest year were to occur, we still wouldn’t erase the deficit we have seen in the last four years,” said Alan Haynes, service coordination hydrologist at the California Nevada River Forecast Center in Sacramento.
“The general thing about these things is, if you are prepared, it doesn’t have to be a negative,” Trenberth said. Here's hoping!!
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Biblical?
Shemita 2.0?
Nah. But they might want to lay off the geoengineering though. Fuckers.
October has been pretty dry.
Long term forecaster says drought to spread east. Nasa video shows drought spreading east.
Go long freeze dried food.
there is no way this was the record warmest florida has been...
Hey! These are the USGS charts. All the temps been manipulated upwards! So if this data is false then maybe Il Nino is not as bad as foretasted and the rains won't come as warned and they can blame global whateverthefuck again.
Al Gore and Krugman will cream in their mom's panties.
As as mentioned above, lay off the geoengineering already
I just looked, 25 days in SEPTEMBER in Pasco county Florida, were BELOW HISTORICAL AVERAGE temperature.
fuck these fucking fags...
Wow... 7 of the highest monthly temperatures EVER have been recorded in 2015. AFTER adjustments and JUST in time for the UN's Paris COP21 Climate Convention of course...
http://www.cop21paris.org/about/cop21
These are the USGS charts. All the temps been manipulated upwards!
Not all of them have been manipulated upwards. Temperatures for the 1930s and sea level increases before 1990 have been manipulate downwards.
The official record of the temperature adjustments (in graphic form) can be found HERE at the NOAA
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/epubs/ndp/ushcn/ts.ushcn_anom25_diffs_urb-raw_pg.gif
What really pisses the real scientists off is that the most recent land temperatures should be adjusted DOWN not UP in order to take out the Urban Heat Island effect bias as towns and cities grow...
That's the least of the lies being told.
CO2 is a lagging indicator of climate change, not a cause. It's ENTIRELY due to solar activity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-m09lKtYT4
Funny how so many ZHers are so skeptical of anything government related, especially the numbers they release about pretty much anything. "250k jobs created?!?! That's fucking bullshit, they just made that up, we are in a fucking depression and these fuckers are lying"
I think that's a pretty fair representation of most reactions around here. Yet when it comes to the govts claims about global warming, they swallow that shit hook line and sinker. At least with most lefties, you know they just love and trust big brother. But you guys are really something special. They may lie about EVERYTHING else, but NOT this. Global warming is real!
Duuude - if you want to preach to the choir get out of the bathroom stall. Nobody here is buying that shite that I can see. At least none of the respettable names. If you see someone hatin on CO2, check for the .gov IP behind the avatar.
Haha keep reading below, my friend. Well, I guess the 'respectable' part makes it a little different....
Where can I find the chart for California Mud Futures ?
Yet when it comes to the govts claims about global warming, they swallow that shit hook line and sinker.
Why Skeptics hate climate skepticsIn most cases dealing with claims which emanate from scams, paranormal beliefs, pseudo-science or just ignorance, skeptics have shown great patience and fortitude in allowing proponents the opportunity to make their best case before carefully debunking the proffered evidence and arguments. Skeptics generally were fastidious in providing point by point critiques to each challenge. There was a common understanding that for valid beliefs evidence could be lined up and presented so that the average person could understand and follow the reasoning. Credentials did not matter so much as evidence and reason. When it comes to climate it seems this approach has been abandoned. Typically the response is merely to label anyone with an inconvenient idea or question as denier. Further discussion is usually limited to assertions that: 1) that the discussion has already occurred, 2) there is considerable (but undescribed) overwhelming evidence and lastly 3) appeals to scientific consensus and the argument that if you’re not a climate scientist you can’t “know” and you shouldn’t be questioning.
Perhaps with science as with magical thinking some embrace fears of climate change because they do not want to accept that weather is random and that bad things can happen for no reason. Consistent with their role in regards to scams and hoaxes, many still see the task for skeptics as coming up with answers and explanations. Maybe the desire for impressive answers leads to excess certainty and an over-reliance on experts to quell doubts. Unfortunately today not enough skeptics see the value of critical thinking when it leads to an honest “I don’t know”.
http://judithcurry.com/2015/06/03/why-skeptics-hate-climate-skeptics/
"7 of the highest monthly temperatures EVER"
I don't think so:
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/PageMill_Images/image277.gif
did you notice carbon during the carboniferous period? Wonder why its called carboniferous?
Check out the CO2 levels during the Devonian Silurian Ordovician and Cambrian...
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/PageMill_Images/image277.gif
4,000 to 5,000 PPM CO2 for hundreds of millions of years and yet it was also the period during which vast coral reefs evolved as well as the all of the major families of shelled molluscs.
At 4,000 PPM CO2 even a stupid global warming scientist knows that the oceans would surely have immediately dissolved everything... but they didn't for some reason.
Ocean acidification my ass.
Surely? like settled, 100% surely?
Why don't you buy the global warming scientist's book and direct your questions to him, k?
Ocean Acidification
pg. 70, jackass
Teh we can never hear "El Nino" without thinking of Chris Farley...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvmeUStFvz8
Makes me want to do a rip.
Fuck the global data everyone. Tom stuck his head out of the window and concluded a whole planet was colder.
Fact-resistan human alert!!!
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/scientists-earth-endangered-by-new-strain-of-fact-resistant-humans
Go see a psychologist
Funny, but scientists are humans too.
I wonder if the US could count on the rest of the world to supply us food if we have a drought?
NO. next question
Fact-resistant human alert, indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-m09lKtYT4
What I find a strange phenomenon among many Zero Hedge readers, is that they do realize that the corporations (the banksters, the presstitutes for profit, the military industrial complex, the oil companies) have only one thing in their short-term mind and that is to make as much profit as they can regardless of anything else. To that end they have rigged the economy and all statistic about it, bought our politicians to do their bidding and they don't give a shit about screwing billions of people the world over. Until here I fully agree and that's why I'm an enthusiastic ZH reader as well.
On the other hand, many seem unable to wrap their minds around a very similar idea: that by the same motives the energy corporations will do anything to deny that fossil fuels are increasingly expensive to extract and that the exhaust gasses are causing our atmosphere and thus our climate to change. Because admitting this is not the best way to push up their shares and their CEO's bonusses. It gets dismissed by some sort of ridiculous argument that scientists are promoting this so-called climate change hoax to secure more investment for research to preserve their jobs. Realy: how much money can scientists afford to that end? BIG OIL can easily squash that a thousand fold. And they do so indeed.
And this is what I cannot wrap my head around. It seems to me one of the biggest (and most auto-destructive) cognitive dissonances that has ever gripped humanity. I guess that for many people the truth is just to hard to bear, that the American Dream and never-ending growth are not compatible with our (any) finite planet. Too hard to bear, because once you admit the facts, this implies making hard choices to do something about it and that's way out of most people's comfort zones.
lets say instead of climate, it was an asteroid. A big freaking asteroid that you could actually see in the sky, growing bigger and bigger. The fact that a group of sociopathic bankers, and government types would use the impending asteroid impact to turn a profit, exert control over the population, and generally enrich themselves at everyone else's expense does not in any way negate the fact that a giant asteroid is about to fuck shit up..thus it is with climate change, with the added bonus that there is another much larger, richer, and more powerful group of sociopaths who actually manufactured the asteroid and have a vested interest in telling everyone that the asteroid impact is a non-issue made up by a bunch of grant-hungry astronomers.
We should be celebrating CO2 not demonizing it:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/15/greenpeace-founder-lets-celeb...
Florida is not the whole world.
I know, hard to think in those terms.
Well it's sitting in the middle of a sea of red. Think in those terms. 25 days below historical average in September.
Florida is not the whole world.
But it is on the globe, is it not?
global -adjective : of or relating to the whole world; worldwide.Florida is not worldwide, then.
Like I said, hard to imagine.
If some areas are not showing an increase then any warming is not global by definition.
PS -- How big of a cultist does one have to be to downvote the dictionary?
It's an average of global temperature changes, so yes you have stumbled upon a very ugly and terrifying reality. Because if the average isn't changing in Florida, then it must be changing a lot someplace else in order for the entire planet to be warmer.
Follows from the math.
In fact most of the warming is at the poles and in the oceans. Wow isn't that too bad? The very places that actually drive our entire planetary atmospheric engine (excluding for discussion the continental equator) are warming the most AND these places are not in America and not in Florida! America and Florida being as they are the gravitational center of All Human Experience makes it hard to impossible for the average guy to wrap his over-taxed brain around the whole thing.
It's ... it's almost as if someone set us up! Oh-em-gee! I think my head just exploded.
If you can't even comprehend a simple definition then how can you hope to unravel the intricacies of climate?
Read it again:
global -adjective : of or relating to the whole world; worldwide.
The definition of global is not "an average of what happens in the world." It is " of or relating to the whole world; worldwide." If some areas show no temperature increase then by definition global warming does not exist.
Maybe that's why your high priests tried to change the name of your religion from global warming to climate change. But changing the name contradicts the edict that "the science is settled." Only the faithful can remain true to a religion with so many internal inconsistencies and contradictions.
The math wins.
But hey, you can think what you want and you know why you can do that? Because it doesn't matter for shit what anyone thinks on the topic!
Because math!
First things first. Even if you believe that some areas are not warming but other areas are becoming so hot that we're all going to die can you admit that the phrase "global warming" is NOT applicable to that situation?
Because dictionary!
We're talking descriptive science, not liguistics.
Math is the better tool to articulate what is a mathematical description of a dynamic heterogenious system during a period of forced disequilibrium, because the system dynamics are more interesting at the moment than what it is actually called. in the dictionary.
Call it "x". It's fine.
And that's how we do this. Obviously.
We're talking descriptive science, not liguistics.
Yes, we're talking. If words have no meaning then we can't understand each other when we talk. Just so I understand your position do you agree that there is no "global warming" taking place?
Billy Billy Biily. Why is it so hard for you fuckers to understand that AlGore is a fuckwit AND you (and me) are shitting our nest. Look, it was fun while it lasted, but 7 plus billion fuckers all aspiring to drive to Starbucks in an SUV while talking on their iPhone is fucking things up. No amount of solar this or hybrid that or certified organic green shit can fix that. We are in classic overshoot as a species. As cougar says, do the fucking math. Or keep playing 4th grade gotcha games over definitions. Whichever.
Why is it so hard for you fuckers to understand that AlGore is a fuckwit
Why is Al Gore my fault? He's the marketing director for AGW and I'm the one trying to point out that lies such as the ones he tells get in the way of rational discussion. And yet you attack me!
Your religion has made you insane, dude. Why don't you try to think and act rationally and use language in a accurate and truthful manner?
Can you admit that there is no "global warming?" If not, why not? You've already said that Al Gore is a bad person and that's his shtick.
And for what it's worth, my "carbon footprint" is infinitesimal. You really can't bully me and any tax increase would have little effect on me. I'm not the villain you're looking for, I'm just a guy with a dictionary.
Fact: Al Gore is suffering the same cognitive dissonance over Putin's stance on global warming that Zero Hedge is. Gore doesn't understand the Ukraine situation correctly.
Fact: Al Gore thinks it's kinda "radical" to talk about FUNDING OF POLITICS but says it should be talked about.
No links will be provided at this time.
As couger_w says about that other guy, he's old, cut him some slack. It's as the comment above said, way way bigger than Gore's renewables thang.
I'll leave you with this one quote, Cougar
"For a method that relies so heavily on statistical manipulations, it is surprising that the IPCC has not employed a single professional statistician"
There's math, and there's statistics. Dont say math and point the finger at piss poor statistics.
all year the local weather people have been saying how cool this year has been, now its the hottest every... Take this garbager liberal shit somewhere else... My guns are not going anywhere. my truck didnt do anything and you can keep your hand out of my pocket....
Sorry I have to agree with Tom, I live down here too and September was positively mild compared to our usual brutal "indian Summer" and you can independently verify this with real local weather data. And about the map, yes, Florida is not the world, but Florida is in a deep sea of red on that map which really makes you wonder how much of that data is just raw bullshit.
Haven't these fuckheads been caught "adjusting" past temperatures lower and current temperatures higher numerous times? And haven't these same fuckheads been using ONE fucking sensor where there used to be three over a large area and simply 'adjusting' all the temperatures to show what they 'think' it should show? These people have been caught lying too many times for me to believe a fucking word they say. Sorry, I'm not keen to come on board with you climate change BS that is really only a scam to tax us all even more. So, kindly, fuck off.
I would rather suck Obama's cock than believe anything that comes out of the . gov squid.
I have friends in TN. They said that in late nineties the West of the State was in a drought, but the East in the Mountains got drenched. I imagine terrain has a lot to do with it. Take a look at California. Mountains really affect rain patterns.
Cougar, how can you not understand this. The Koch Brothers, BP, ExxonMobil, Shell,, Total, GM, Ford, Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Chrysler, BMW, Mercedes, the entire shipping and freight industry, the entire airline industry, and all the smaller energy, transport, automotive, and related supplier industries and the banksters and politicians who fund and subsidize them are telling the truth (human caused climate change is not happening) and Nerdly McSpazington PhD, director of climate studies, is lying ( the planet appears to be warming at a rate outside of normal variations, and humans appear to be a large contributor to this) because he wants a $200,000 grant to study glaciers. See?
government stats
Exactly. I'm sure they are really accurate and trust worthy, and have been appropriately 'seasonally adjusted' like the jobs number they make up every month.
Not even close to the warmest in Texas either.
But you know, I'll take one for the team and say it's all my fault. I've been eating a TON of beans this year, and farting accordingly so I'm to blame for El Nino and all AGW.
You're welcome.
I like that hot and cold pixel map. Was that from Minecraft?
pods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvmeUStFvz8
I was thinking how delicious it might be to spend the final days of my life in prison for 'climate change denial.' Imagine it, "What are you in for, kid?" Then watching the child rapers move away not wanting to be associated with me.
Jan 29, 2008
Arlo Guthrie -- of Alice's Restaurant fame and son of folk legend Woody Guthrie -- has endorsed Republican Rep. Ron Paul's bid for the White House.
"I love this guy," Guthrie says in a statement released by the Paul campaign. "Dr. Paul is the only candidate I know of who would have signed the Constitution of the United States had he been there. I'm with him, because he seems to be the only candidate who actually believes it has as much relevance today as it did a couple of hundred years ago. I look forward to the day when we can work out the differences we have with the same revolutionary vision and enthusiasm that is our American legacy."
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2008/01/44832022...
Yes, AGW is probably why there are so many creepers lately.
+1 Best laugh I had all day! Thanks Pods!
"GEO-ENGINEERING": Oh my, that's a lot of your fucking brain farts!! What an egoist to think that YOU or ANYONE ELSE has anything to do with the condition of a living atmosphere!!!
How can you not? On such a scale? Are you utterly mad?
Look what you have done to Venus and Mars!! Farts, geo-engineering and what next "chemtrails"?? Absolute proof oh yeah. All over California: chemtrails... No, atmospheric pollution from billions of gas burning cars, oil burning factories, open oil and gas burning wells and including the methane the ocean is vomiting: Yeah. Yeah Fucker, it's all bio-engineering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4spEihrWpPM
Just some anectdotal evidence of the strangeness in weather the last 7 days... just to give you guys an idea of what it's like. In addition to causing strange weather on the west coast, El Nino causes disequilibriums on the East Coast too and I have lived in Florida for 80% of my life. I have never experienced the windy days as of the last 5 or 6 days, outside of a hurricane.... EVER. I have been through at least 10 hurricanes and this is the craziest weather I have seen in Florida. 2 nights ago I left work to walk back home around 8 PM and I was immediately hit with 60-70 mph gusts (a CAT 1 Hurricane is 74 mph). These gusts have been consistently in the 20-55 mph range the last 5 days... today is honestly the first reprieve I have seen but it picks up at night for some reason.
I even mentioned it to my dad who also thought it was bizarre weather for Florida, something we have never seen and we have been here for more than 2 decades. This is definitely shaping up to be a strange anomalistic weather season heading into Q4.
Relax, it's probably just another Jim Cramer sighting.
Everyone knows it's windy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsY8l0Jg3lY
I Lived in Ventura county in California during the 97' el Nino and it was overcast or rained for 2 months straight. I also had the Asian flu for a month straight, and the snowboarding in mammoth in January/February was the best in my life. It is no joke if the prediction is true. Straight pineapple express.
Notice how all the record temps are over ocean.
Those high temperatures are all estimated, they are not measured.
This is really bad science, no, let me correct that. This is religion.
Those temps over the ocean are probaly taken from satellites using new equipment that hasn't been used before and probably isn't calibrated and we're not sure if it really works. If it gives us the numbes we want then we like it. Like you said pseudo-science religion.
"Shemita 2.0"
The Federal Reserve thinks it's god and determines where the markets will be.
OMG! The progressive liberal democraps may be right for a change. It's global warming!
Its Dubya's fault!
Fuck Bush......what? are you defending him?
I don't care if somebody wants to blame that frat-boy douchebag for the Johnstown flood......
Fuck W.....forever
Funny you would say that but the cocksucking fudge packer facist Obama makes him look good.
Yeah well Obama was resposible for the Jonestown Massacre because he wasn't there to stop it.
Setting up to be a mild early winter here in Western PA. Sucks, because it's been warmer-than-usual thus far this autumn - 70s for the past three days, and another day at 70 coming on Saturday. That would be 10 days at or above 70 this month here and would come after one of the warmest Septembers to remember.
This is not the climate change for which you are looking...
If you're going to be a climate change zealot, at least do it honestly. We who have (serious) doubts are constantly chided with "just because it's cold out doesn't mean climate change isn't happening", so you need to play by the same rules. If it's sauce for the goose, it's sauce for the gander.
I live in PA, too and I agree it's been an absolutely beautiful autumn so far. I'll take another 6 months of this, please.
If you like your head up your ass, you can keep your head up your ass.
You believe everything they tell you and somehow find the hubris to accuse me of being the one with my head up my ass. Fat, dumb and entitled is no way to go throuh life, son.
There it was, the definition of exceptional = fat, dumb and entitled. LOL
This may sound simplistic to some, but two things will have to happen for me to believe in all this - stop lying, stop adjusting all the data, since every bit of data out of any govt agency has been proven, time and again, to be bullshit.
Number two- the meteorologists will have to start being consistently accurate on rather or not it's going to rain or not two days ahead of time before I start listening to their claims that my V8 truck is going to cause the planet to warm 4C over the next hundred years.
Exteme cold in winter is now very much part of climate change.
It is the climate. Changed. Pretty much follows the definition.
As for the mechanism it's easy to understand. The Arctic air dynamics are falling to pieces due to climate changes up there. As it does the US North East and Canada end up becoming part of the Arctic Circle weather patterns. Loops or Arctic air break off from the normal pattern and come down where these should not be. The air in the Arctic is a lot warmer than it used to be -- up to 30 deg C warmer in places IIRC -- but even with that it is still fucking cold up there. So long as those air masses stayed up there it was fine. They always did. You think they did not, but they did. Until recently, now it seems like every winter a big piece breaks off the Arctic and makes its way south. And then it gets really interesting when that ultra-cold deep Arctic air hits warmer-than-usual air masses still coming up from the Gulf. Warm air contains moisture, that air hits those ultra-cold Arctic air masses and all that moisture comes up as snow. Snow everywhere, yards deep. The snows from last year where still piled high in places in the NE until late summer, they melted just in time to be replaced with exactly more of the same.
Now El Nino shows up. Nothing in the deep Arctic is any different -- it's going to come apart this year just like last year, and for every year after forever. But now there is so much more warm moist air over the land mass to interact with. The potential for record snow fall over a huge part of the country cannot be discounted.
This is going to be really interesting! A new normal is beginning to emerge as we get a handle on what all the changes are bringing. This new normal will endure for hundreds of years, maybe a thousand. And the changes seen now will only accelerate because there is a lot more global warming in the pipeline! We're looking at 2 deg C now being baked into the cake, but the expected minimum increase is 4 deg C, and I'm really confident we'll fuck it up and hit 5 deg C being the point beyond which any kind of human civilization is expected to simply cease to function as the planet changes completely right out from under us.
What an amazing outcome! In about 100 years probably nobody on the planet will speak English! Or even remember there having been a thing called the industrial age.
Since you know what the weather is going to be like from now until forever could you help out the guys on channel 13 because they can't seem to get it right for tomorrow. And since you have all the other trends figured out for over a hundred years maybe you should write a book or something or at least ask god if you can be a prophet. Maybe that would lend you an air of legitimacy.
The forecast is that the weather is going to try and murder you! Every year, getting worse and worse as it goes. So hot you can't stand it, and then so cold you can't breathe. Rain in places that could drown a crocodile. Droughts that will make it seem like rain was just a dream. Over and over all the time everywhere relentlessly pounding at everything, weather that seems like it has become possessed by the Devil.
People will look into the skies and wonder aloud why has God forsaken them.
If you like weather, get ready for lots to like! It is gonna be awesome. I cannot wait to see what people do with themselves.
If you like weather, get ready for lots to like! It is gonna be awesome. I cannot wait to see what people do with themselves.
"No weather will be found in this book. This is an attempt to pull a book through without weather. It being the first attempt of the kind in fictitious literature, it may prove a failure, but it seemed worth the while of some dare-devil person to try it, and the author was in just the mood.
Many a reader who wanted to read a tale through was not able to do it because of delays on account of the weather. Nothing breaks up an author's progress like having to stop every few pages to fuss-up the weather. Thus it is plain that persistent intrusions of weather are bad for both reader and author.
Of course weather is necessary to a narrative of human experience. That is conceded. But it ought to be put where it will not be in the way; where it will not interrupt the flow of the narrative. And it ought to be the ablest weather that can be had, not ignorant, poor-quality, amateur weather. Weather is a literary specialty, and no untrained hand can turn out a good article of it. The present author can do only a few trifling ordinary kinds of weather, and he cannot do those very good. So it has seemed wisest to borrow such weather as is necessary for the book from qualified and recognized experts-giving credit, of course. This weather will be found over in the back part of the book, out of the way. See Appendix. The reader is requested to turn over and help himself from time to time as he goes along." -- Mark Twain
In about 100 years probably nobody on the planet will speak English! Or even remember there having been a thing called the industrial age.
'I made a mistake': Gaia theory scientist James Lovelock admits he was 'alarmist' about the impact of climate changeEnvironmental scientist James Lovelock, renowned for his terrifying predictions of climate change's deadly impact on the planet, has gone back on his previous claims, admitting they were 'alarmist'.
Five years ago, he had claimed: 'Before this century is over billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable.'But in an interview with msnbc, he admitted: 'I made a mistake.'
He said: 'The problem is we don’t know what the climate is doing,' he told 'We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books – mine included – because it looked clear cut, but it hasn’t happened.
'The climate is doing its usual tricks. There’s nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world.
'[The temperature] has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising - carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2134092/Gaia-scientist-James-Lov...
He's an old guy, give him some slack.
His life experience helps him to know when he has been wrong and to admit his errors. You'll get there someday providing nobody cuts off your heat in the dead of winter in order to save you from boiling subzero temperatures.
His life experiences have no bearing on the facts on the ground! He can say what he likes, retract it if he wants to, change his mind, contradict himself and go around and around until he falls over.
None of that matters!
And the older he gets the less any of it matters.
And that's your lesson today regarding life.
What I got out of your statement is that if, in another 20 years, florida isn't underwater and the remaining humans haven't become cave dwellers to escape the boiling/freezing that will be constantly going on at the surface, you will still be here spouting the same nonsense.
Thanks for clearing that up.
And don't forget crocodiles! They used to live at the poles, too. So maybe that will make a difference.
It hasn't stopped snowing and millions of climate refugees are not swarming the globe but the experience of having heard those predictions made by the "experts" and then seeing that those things have failed to happen constitutes an experience which doesn't matter in your opinion.
Well, that scientific!
Dude. It stops snowing every spring.
Or maybe I'm wrong! No offense if it snows all the time where you are.
As for the millions of climate refugees, ask Germany how that's working out for them. I don't know how many of the "migrants" are there for economic reasons, but it's enough that EU authorities want to send them home. And just so you know, "economic refugees" are one of a few predictions of the societal impacts of climate change. You don't have to go to Africa and stand around watching the cows die, all you have to do is watch the headlines as millions of people flee Africa "for some reason" and from that infer what you want to.
Dude. It stops snowing every spring.
And then it starts snowing again each autumn showing that the AGW assertion that we have seen the "end of snow" is demonstrably untrue. You knew that but you didn't want to admit it because then you might have to say three Hail Hansens as penance.
As for the millions of climate refugees, ask Germany how that's working out for them. I don't know how many of the "migrants" are there for economic reasons, but it's enough that EU authorities want to send them home. And just so you know, "economic refugees" are one of a few predictions of the societal impacts of climate change.
George Bush thanks you for taking him off the hook on the failed Iraq invasion and the resulting chaos which led to the creation of ISIS. "The West, the Gulf States and Turkey" whom the DIA says are funding ISIS also appreciate the cover which your insane "Global Warming is Attack Assad and Executing Civilians" theory provides.
Let's get clear on this point: Are you seriously suggesting that the refugees currently overwhelming Europe are fleeing high temperatures and not the destruction caused by war?
I don't believe a thing the government says. Or that GMO's and vaccine adjuvants are safe. That said, I don't know how anyone over 25 could possibly say that there isn't massive, rapid climate change occurring. It's real, it's happening. The sooner we acknowledge that the better.
What we must not allow to happen is stupid responses such as carbon tax credit banker BS or god forbid more geo-engineering. We need to clean the oceans and seed them with phytoplankton. We also need to reforest the equator ASAP.
I understand the distrust. I'm right there with ya. Just because someone is trying to sell you overpriced fire extinguishers to put out your four alarm house fire doesn't mean that your house is not in fact on fire. Carbon taxe credits, geo-engineering and other technological solutions are extremely dangerous.
The only thing that we for SURE know works is a healthy ocean ecology and a thickly forested equator in terms of stabilizing the climate to one that is most beneficial for humans.
NO geo-engineering, just clean up the oceans and seed them with phytoplankton, and then reforest the equator. Why not move a few mountains around and re-design the continents, just don't do any geo-engineering.
If we fucked things up we can fix them. It's like when my son looks at his messy room and says, "I don't know how it got messy daddy, but I certainly can't clean it up."
The fuck we can't! We can definitely do the two very straight forward things I said. We KNOW a heavily forested equator and vibrant phytoplankton population stabilizes the climate. Geo-engineering is unproven dangerous technology that puts highly toxic chemicals and elements into the atmosphere. How about instead of playing god we tend the fucking garden we were given?
There are a few things going on that are kind of confusing to figure out, and geoengineering is the elephant in the room that needs to be STOPPED before we can get a clear picture of what is truly happening.
Some disparate pices of information, gleaned from Suspiscous 0bservers, Thunderbolts.info, and SOTT.net:
- antarctic ice has been steadily INCREASING over the last several years, not decreasing (except in one area where a volcano under the ice is active). Reports of record warm temps from there are highly questionable, because there are onl *8* thermometers used on that entire land mass, and they are located in areas that are not representative of the ice mass as a whole.
- we are entering a Maunder Minimum, where there will be decreased numbers of sunspots during solar cycles over the next several decades at least, so solar emanations will decrease, possibly leading to a mini-ice age as happened in the 1600's.
- we are in an area of increased electromagnetic flux, possibly due to going through an area of increased electromagnetic interaction with the galaxy's central core, which acts a giant electromagnet. This can create a grounding effect on the poles of the sun and of the planets, with strange effects like increased brightness seen on Venus; the dimming of the great red spot on Jupiter; increased weather seen on Mars; etc. This may also be affecting the magnetic field of the Earth, which is decreasing, and is a potential contributing factor to the Maunder Minimum.
With geoengineering steering weather systems away from the US west coast, creating a high off the coast of Alaska for the last FOUR YEARS, there has not been normal atmospheric circulation into the Arctic Ocean, which has helped to raise temps there, melting ice...and this melt water has been basically staying in one place, on top of the water column there. As more and more energy goes into the Pacific Ocean from this forced weather pattern, more and more water does become vaporized, leading to greater and greater numbers of storms in the ocean and causing this el nino effect.
Were this to get strong enough - or were geoengineering to stop cold-turkey - we could see that high off of Alaska dissipate, allowing air to circulate through there again...resulting in a 'push' of that very cold, less-salty water into the north Atlantic around Greenland. If that happened, we could see the stoppage of the gulf water conveyer bringing warm water up there and to the British Isles. Were THAT to happen...
..."Day After Tomorrow," anyone?
Temps are measured by satellite, not just thermometers. This isn't 1950.
Antarctic ice is stretching out farther lately but it has also dramatically thinned out. This is why the ice shelves are collapsing. Net effect is unchanged - ice is melting.
electromagnetic flux lol. You should harness that and install it in a Delorean. I'll assume you aren't seriously putting that one forward.
geoengineering looool. Lemme guess, HAARP and chemtrails? haarp = straight up looney conspiracy theory (vs actual real conspiracy).. and chemtrails = people who do not understand how contrails are created and refuse to find out; i.e. idiots.
Not true.
There is more of it...
https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-recor...
And it is thicker than ever...
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/nov/24/antarctic-ice-thicker...
You my friend have been drinking the kool-aid of climate denialism.
Good reading. However, both articles contradict your position completely, if you bothered to read them.
The first paragraph of the Guardian article:
"Groundbreaking 3D mapping of previously inaccessible areas of the Antarctic has found that the sea ice fringing the vast continent is thicker than previous thought."
That's different than saying "The ice has increased thickness where it was thinner before". Nowhere in the article does it state the ice is actually thickening. It does mean it's good news that there's more ice there than previously thought.
The first 3 paragraphs of the Nasa article basically state that even if the ice is reaching farther it still isn't anywhere near keeping up with arctic loss, barely keeping up by 1/3, so no, ice volume is NOT increasing at all.
“The planet as a whole is doing what was expected in terms of warming. Sea ice as a whole is decreasing as expected, but just like with global warming, not every location with sea ice will have a downward trend in ice extent,” Parkinson said.
So, you've cherry picked facts out of the Nasa article (lies by omission), and have misrepresented the guardian article by hoping that nobody reads past the title. This is pretty much the MO of the entire climate change denial crowd. You should find out who funds those people (oil companies, other special interest groups). I'm sure you'll find it enlightening.
Try again.
You (all of you) can deny this shit all you want (I wish I could say that was fine, go ahead, but you're fucking it up for all of us, so do us a favour and STFU) but it doesn't change the facts and it doesn't change that lots of things are going to get fucked up very soon. The denial group will keep up the bullshit until it's too late to do anything BECAUSE OBAMACARE or some stupid right-wing bleating reason of the day.. and then you'll still blame somebody else. Most of us would actually rather deal with the problem. If a carbon tax, implemented fairly (I stress fairly), decreases emissions and starts solving the problem, I think that's great, and so should you.
It's that "implemented fairly" part that is troublesome. Bleat about that rather than accepted and proven fact. Fix THAT. Do something, for fuck's sake. This shit IS real. I'd much rather it wasn't.
You obviously need to be brought up to speed on several issues, so here's some background reading you'll need to do before we can even begin to discuss this issue:
Weather agencies are being gagged concerning geoengineering:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/government-implements-illegal-gag-ord...
750 page congressional report on climate engineering/weather warfare - read the highlighted parts of the presented pages:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/government-implements-illegal-gag-ord...
Commercial pilot becomes whistleblower:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/courageous-former-commercial-pilot-jo...
Climate engineers in the arctic - and dead scientists who were reporting on it:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/what-are-the-climate-engineers-doing-...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11762680...
Video of many experts demanding geoengineering investigation:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/geoengineering-investigation-demanded...
Peer-reviewed scientific article proving that coal-fly ash is being sprayed in the skies:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/aluminum-poisoning-of-humanity-from-g...
High Bypass Turbofan Jet Engines, Geoengineering, And The Contrail Lie:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/high-bypass-turbofan-jet-engines-geoe...
In addition, I work in a field where my very job is directly impacted by geoengineering, and I personally have proof that *something* is putting high levels of aluminum into the Sacramento River system. The only thing that makes sense is geoengineering, and my data matches up with what Dane Wigington has discovered (and has listed on his website, Geoengineeringwatch.org ).
It's the sun IV... low Ap magnetic field strength with low solar wind speed and density. During these conditions recorded in the Mt. Logan sodium records we witness the global jet stream patterns changing from "zonal" (west to east) to "meridional" (north to south).
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/265732154_Mt._Logan_Ice_Core_Rec...
And weather is about to beome extremely variable as it was during the maunder minimum.
Frosts in summer could cause global famines... and we are now experiencing those same maunder/dalton frosts.
http://www.sott.net/article/298967-Mid-July-frost-recorded-in-central-Eu...
Yes, it is the sun, but the driving force may very well be the electrical mechanics of the galaxy, and the area of space that we are travelling through at this time. After all, *ALL* of the planets are undergoing very strange effects at this time, not all of which can be explained by a changing sun. There is a lot to cover before any of this will make sense, but the information can be found here in the 'eu guides' section:
https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/
Basically, it all comes down to the fact that 99.99% of all matter in the universe is Hydrogen gas; and when hydrogen is heated to high temps, it dissociates into hydrogen ions and electrons - which then results in the production of electromagnetic fields. The electromagnetic force is 39 orders of magnitude greater than gravity, and decreases linearly with distance, not with the square of the distance like gravity does. Hence, the TRUE force in the universe is electromagnetic, and it doesn't just span galaxies - it spans the entire universe.
Since there is an incredible mass of hydrogen gas in the center of our galaxy in the form of billions of stars that actually form a 'bar' of matter that spins, the galaxy is basically a giant magnet. As such, it produces magnetic field lines, and as the solar system travels around the center it occasionally crosses these lines of force. According to this theory we are travelling through one of these field lines right now, and it affecting the magnetosphere, the sun, and all the planets. This in turn is causing all kinds of weird effects; climate change via the 'grounding' of the sun being one of them. Anyway, it's fascinating reading, and really opens the mind to the fact that we have been LIED to regarding the REAL forces that do the dirty work in this world.
Setting up to be a mild early winter here in Western PA. Sucks, because it's been warmer-than-usual thus far this autumn - 70s for the past three days
Nice weather along the Allegheny. I finished painting my porch this afternoon. No complaints.
Damn right.
72 degrees F at Wrigley Field on a late October night? Really??
Since when??
Did anyone die or did the politicians institute an emergency tax increase which prevented disaster?
That's the rub, right there.
"Don't worry, we can fix it. All we need is (drumroll) moar of your money"
"believe everything they tell you" is the denier's way of saying "No, I do not accept overwhelming scientific evidence because I think I'll be inconvenienced by it, or at least that's what I've been told."
Enjoy your delusions. There is no AGW.
"Enjoy your delusions. There is no AGW."
There is. There most certainly is. Enjoy YOUR DELUSIONS.
Of course, this has nothing to do with the political lovefest of the IPCC that will happen this year. Personally, I will go with the satellite record that these bozos do not tamper with.
" The last time there was an El Nino of similar magnitude to the current one, the record-setting event of 1997-1998, floods, fires, droughts and other calamities killed at least 30,000 people and caused $100 billion in damage." Oh the horror. btw. what are the stats for a non El Nino year? When you see propagada like that it is time to stop reading.
Lower atmospheric temperature anomoly since 1978: https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/tlt_update_bar-sept1...
This is nothing that a good healthy Carbon Tax won't fix. Just tax every person on planet earth, administrated by a non-elected body like the UN and walla, fixed it for you. It also gets rid of the "no taxation without representation" do hicky that has been a thorn in the side of the elite for all these years.
OH, one last thing, set up an " El Nino Free" zone around the US, that also works pretty good.
@ShrNfr: you think Paris is going to be a love-in. I was thinking more OK Corral, but I see there's a new sherrif in town...
Paris is our governments in action, not the IPCC. Our governments are as lawyers meeting on the courthouse steps in the morning to try and settle loss and damages.
Hi, I'm Ollie Williams. This is your weekend weather report. This morning we're seeing some climate with partly weather periods as well as a few weather cycles. Right now I am at the studio where some climate is expected. Overnight temperatures will probably change, similar to every night that we have weather.
Tomorrow's weather forecast calls for more weather with a high and a low of climate plus or minus twelve. With the wind chill factor, that could put us at a record weather. Conditions are perfect for staying inside this weekend, but if you're heading out, please remember to watch for climate to avoid weather. We'll go back to the newsroom now for a look at what's in sports.
Another reason to do it. Lets face it, life is just getting more and more scary, so instead of dragging things out until your miserable end, just kill yourself now and be done with it all. I mean, can you imagine the horror of living in this world? Go on. Do it. You'll feel much better when you are dead.
And, if you're a male and of the Islamic faith, you get 72 virgins. If you're a Christian, you get a room made especially for you by Him.
So, what does it matter if anything bad happens here on Earth? In the end, it's all good in the 'hood!
Problem. All they say - is that it is 72 virgins - they never say WHAT the virgins are.
For all we know, you get 72 horny camels.
Or, 72 horny old arab women so ugly they would give a warthog a run for it's money, which is why they are still virgins.
Thanks, but no thanks. I'll take my chances trolling for cougars on the weekend.
"Life is too short not to ...."
Where did I hear that before?
These charts are made by the same guys caught red-handed making up temperature data from stations that had been offline for decades, and revising upward the temps from the ongoing sites.
I would not believe their declarations of rising temperature if we were sitting together in the Sahara.
I prefer my weather forecasts to come from big tittied, bubble assed latino weather girls. Thank you
mmmm ... you wouldn't happen to have a link for that, would you?
...titties, mmmm ~ Carl
YES YES YES WE NOW HAVE OUR EXCUSE AS TO WHY MONTHLY JOBS NUMBERS, RETAIL SALE NUMBERS, AND EVERY OTHER DATA POINT WILL BE WEAK FROM NOW THROUGH NEXT APRIL AT LEAST.
EL NINO BITHCEZZZZZ!!!!
I think it's also messing with my AOL connection.
Just what we don't need. Is more radioactive water from Fukushima raining down on the West Coast.
As always, it's a regional thing. Some places will be cooler and some hotter; some wetter, some dryer. Only the alternative media is reliable; the MSM has tossed its credibility long ago.
http://barlowscayman.blogspot.com/2015/03/global-warming-global-cooling....
Don't forget 16 feet of snow.
Twice.
Blah...blah...blah... Do these weather egg heads EVER get it right? I think this is what...the 3rd flip flop on the weather forecast so far.
Two days of rain here last week. Neither was forecast. Then, the last hour of the second rain, a 15% chance popped up on the weather service. But they can tell you what the weather is going to do for the next 100 years, can't they?
OK, by upvotes and downvotes (up meaning YES it is warmer and downvotes meaning NO it is not warmer), how many ZHr's are experiencing warmer than normal temperatures for this time of the year in your regions? Here in south west New Mexico we are colder and wetter than any year I can remember in the las 7 years I've lived here. This past summer, like last summer, the Organ, Floridas and several other mountain ranges had green vegetation, which did not happen the first 3 years I lived here.
There, I fixed it.
Will not let me up vote you. But has been warming here in Northern Nevada/California.
You have made it impossible to vote by using italics at the start of your post.
Did not know that italices would obstruct voting.... dont see the mechanism/code restrictions behind that. Anywho, vote here instead
It's not italics that obstruct voting, but using the "blockquote" at the beginning of a post. You can still vote by highlighting the user's name, hitting tab 2 or 3 times, then hitting enter. I upvoted your original post since it's been warmer here, but that doesn't mean anything, as the entire state of CA is only 0.03% of the entire surface area of the earth.
Much of the year had warmest months on record, including winter months. Amazing. What a world.
According to my September SRP bill for San Tan Valley, AZ:
September 2015 Average Daily temperature : 89.5
September 2014 Average Daily temperature : 89.6
Looks like we will get our first El Nino storm in northern California next Wednesday. Forecast is for almost on inch and we already have an inch registered for the month. Bring it on Mother Nature.
Only 2 inches and she married you? What a gal...
Oh god, here we go again with the climate bullshit. I'll check back in an hour or so, look for the post with the most down arrows and then hurl some insults their way. You can't debate climatocracy crowd or present them with facts. It's like telling a mosque full of imams that mohammed was a jew. Don't fuck with their religion.
So um uh... what does it say if this year's global "calamities" don't exceed $100 billion in costs? That's what I like to call an Obama-Line-In-The-Sand moment.
Watch as El nino is blamed for all the marine life deaths in the Pacific, per orders from the Nuke mafia. Given the exposure finally of all the radiation cancers now in Japan and throughout the Pacific Islands, will the US and Canadian Gov'ts finally acknowledge that North American populations will be decimated within 20 years? Doubtful.
20 years, eh? How many before "Decimated" is a proper description?
Don't look now but decimation is already rampant.
For those of you who don't speak spanish, el nino means ..."The Nino"
RIP Chris Farley
It looks like Gartman has become a weatherman. So many flip flops it's impossible to keep track of them all.
Shoot! I knew I should have taken this global warming/climate change crap more seriously. Should have purchased some of those carbon credits, bought that Prius. Now I'm screwed, I'm gonna get wet this winter. Bahh!!!
Planet has been cooling/warming for billions of years (depending on whether or not the sun decides to burp). Get used to it. This will continue for another few billion years until the sun emits the mother of all farts and consumes the Earth and all the other planets. Now, that's what I call global warming.
El Nino wiped out the dinosaurs, in 1950. 99% of climate scientists swear it's true. Do you know how big those SUVs were, that those dinosaurs used to ride around in? OMG.
Giant squid still have and use 'em.
We deserve it for being raciss!
So,,, another clandestine climate change verse for the believers. They are so right in their assertions that they had to change it from Global Warming to Climate Change and threaten anyone who may disagree with them with jail or not allow them to run for a political office (John Rambo Kerry) These people are the poster children for nut jobs.
If in fact the weather doesn't change I would be worried. The insanity runs amuck. All the fluoride and aerial spraying of chemicals and GMO food has altered the DNA dropping the IQ by 40 points. Another 25 years and we'll all be back at the missing link stage of devolution.
They changed the phrasing because of simpletons who figured that because they could bring a snowball into legislature, the entire thing was a hoax as it was supposed to get warm *everywhere* without exception. This is contrary to the science and such a thing was never scientifically claimed.
Really, the only place left in the world where significant numbers of the population don't "believe" in climate change (like not believing in gravity at this point) is .... the United States. Shocking.
Only a liberal could relate weather to gravitational theory. If you can't deny one, ya can't deny the other? Your attempts are laughable. Give all your money to a global warming foundation and be the beach bum you always were.