"Proxy" War No More: Qatar Threatens Military Intervention In Syria Alongside "Saudi, Turkish Brothers"

Tyler Durden's picture

Earlier this week, Saudi foreign minister Adel al-Jubeir had the following message for Tehran: 

"We wish that Iran would change its policies and stop meddling in the affairs of other countries in the region, in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen. We will make sure that we confront Iran's actions and shall use all our political, economic and military powers to defend our territory and people.”

In short, Riyadh and its allies in Doha and the UAE are uneasy about the fact that the P5+1 nuclear deal is set to effectively remove Iran from the pariah state list just as Tehran is expanding its regional influence via its Shiite militias in Iraq, the ground operation in Syria, and through the Houthis in Yemen. 

Thanks to the fact that Tehran has more of an arm’s length relationship with the Houthis than it does with Hezbollah and its proxy armies in Iraq, the Saudis have been able to effectively counter anti-Hadi forces in Yemen without risking a direct conflict with Iran, but make no mistake, Sana’a is not the prize here. Yemen is a side show. The real fight is for the political future of Syria and for control of Iraq once the US finally packs up and leaves for good. Iran is winning on both of those fronts. 

Over the last several weeks, we and others have suggested that one should not simply expect Washington, Riyadh, Ankara, and Doha to go gently into that good night in Syria after years of providing support for the various Sunni extremist groups fighting to destabilize the regime. There’s just too much at stake.

As noted on Tuesday, Assad's ouster would have removed a key Iranian ally and cut off Tehran from Hezbollah. Not only would that outcome pave the way for deals like the Qatar-Turkey natural gas line, it would also cement Sunni control over the region on the way to dissuading Tehran at a time when the lifting of crippling economic sanctions is set to allow the Iranians to shed the pariah state label and return to the international stage not only in terms of energy exports, but in terms of diplomacy as well. Just about the last thing Riyadh wants to see ahead of Iran's resurgence, is a powergrab on the doorstep of the Arabian peninsula. 

Thanks to Washington’s schizophrenic foreign policy, there’s no effective way to counter Iran in Iraq but as Mustafa Alani, the Dubai-based director of National Security and Terrorism Studies at the Gulf Research Center told Bloomberg earlier this week, “The regional powers can give the Russians limited time to see if their intervention can lead to a political settlement -- if not, there is going to be a proxy war.”

That’s not entirely accurate. There’s already a proxy war and the dangerous thing about it is that thanks to the fact that Iran is now overtly orchestrating the ground operation, one side of the “SAA vs. rebels” proxy label has been removed. Now it’s “Iran-Russia vs. rebels” which means we’re just one degree of separation away from a direct confrontation between NATO’s regional allies in Riyadh and Doha and the Russia-Iran “nexus.” Here’s Bloomberg with more on the Saudi’s predicament: 

Powerful Saudi clerics are calling for a response to the Russian move, even though the kingdom is already bogged down in another war in Yemen. Analysts say the Saudi government will probably speed up the flow of cash and weapons to its allies in the opposition fighting to topple President Bashar al-Assad, who’s also supported by Saudi Arabia’s main rival, Iran.

 

While the Saudis may seek to direct their aid to “moderate forces” in Syria, “the definition of this word is subject to much debate,” said Theodore Karasik, a Dubai-based political analyst. Sending arms “is dangerous in the medium term because of how easily weapons can fall into the wrong hands,” he said.

And let’s not kid ourselves, there are no “wrong hands” as far as Riyadh and Doha are concerned. Sure, they’d rather not have ISIS running around inside their borders blowing up mosques but then again, those bombings simply provide more political cover for justifying an air campaign in Syria. Back to Bloomberg:

Extremist groups already hold sway over large parts of the country. The Saudis joined U.S.-led operations against Islamic State last year, and since then jihadist attacks in the kingdom have increased, many of them targeting minority Shiite Muslims in the oil-rich eastern province. Meanwhile, Assad accuses the Saudis and other Gulf states of arming rebel groups with ties to al-Qaeda.

 

Some Saudi thinkers advocate direct military engagement in Syria, just as the kingdom has done in Yemen. Nawaf Obaid, a visiting fellow at Harvard University’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, is one of them.

 

“The Saudis are going to be forced to lead a coalition of nations in an air campaign against the remnants of Syrian forces, Hezbollah and Iranian fighters to facilitate the collapse of the Assad regime and assist the entry of rebel forces into Damascus,” Obaid wrote in an opinion piece published by CNN on Oct. 4.

And while some still see that outcome as far fetched not only because the Saudis are stretched thin thanks to falling crude prices and the war in Yemen, but because it would be an extraordinarily dangerous escalation, it looks as though Qatar is leaning in a similar direction. Here’s Sputnik:

Qatar who has been a major sponsor of jihadist groups fighting in Syria for years, now is actively considering a direct military intervention in the country, according to its officials.

 

Throughout Syria’s bloody civil war, the government of Qatar has been an active supporter of anti-government militants, providing arms and financial backing to so called "rebels." Many of these, like the al-Nusra Front, were directly linked to al-Qaeda. That strategy has, of course, done little to put a dent in terrorist organizations in the region.

 

But as Russia enters its fourth week of anti-terror airstrikes, Qatar has indicated that it may launch a military campaign of its own.

 

"Anything that protects the Syrian people and Syria from partition, we will not spare any effort to carry it out with our Saudi and Turkish brothers, no matter what this is," Qatar’s Foreign Minister Khalid al-Attiyah told CNN on Wednesday, when asked if he supported Saudi Arabia’s position of not ruling out a military option.

 

"If a military intervention will protect the Syrian people from the brutality of the regime, we will do it," he added, according to Qatar’s state news agency QNA.

 

Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Mekdad was fast to warn the Middle Eastern monarchy that such a move would be a disastrous mistake with serious consequences.

 

"If Qatar carries out its threat to militarily intervene in Syria, then we will consider this a direct aggression," he said, according to al-Mayadeen television. "Our response will be very harsh."

Let's just be clear. If Saudi Arabia and Qatar start bombing Iranian forces from the airspace near Russia's base at Latakia, this will spiral out of control.

Iran simply wouldn't stand for it and if you think for a second that Moscow is going to let Saudi Arabia fly around in Western Syria and bomb the Iranians, you'll be in for a big surprise. Of course the first time a Russian jet shoots down a Saudi warplane over Syria, Washington will have no choice but to go to war.

Finally, we'd be remiss if we didn't point out the absurdity in what's being suggested here. Qatar and Saudi Arabia are essentially saying that they may be willing to go to war with Russia and Iran on behalf of al-Qaeda if it means facilitating Assad's ouster. The Western world's conception of "good guys"/ "bad guys" has officially been turned on its head.

And meanwhile:

Russian President Vladimir Putin’s public approval rating has reached a record 89.9 percent since he ordered his military to begin air strikes in support of Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad, according to a state-run polling center.

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Haus-Targaryen's picture

Don't forget Turkey is part of NATO -- and if they start shooting at the Russians, and the Russians return fire -- it will give the USSA the excuse it needs to fire off WWIII. 

Latina Lover's picture

This Just In:

Russian President Vladimir Putin’s public approval rating has reached a record 89.9 percent since he ordered his military to begin air strikes in support of Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad, according to a state-run polling center.

I love the smell of victory in the morning.  It smells like Napalm

Haus-Targaryen's picture

They are attempting to force a Russian "no fly zone" over Syria.  

If the Russians are bombing the Saudi/Turkey/US/TBTB proxies, and then the Saudis start bombing the Russian/Iranian/Chinese proxies, how long before they skip the middle man and start shooting at each other in the air.  

My bet in this situation is clearly on the Russians -- but having a turkish MiG shotdown via a Russian MiG would make the USSA MIC very very happy.  

NoDebt's picture

Well, there goes the neighborhood.

 

The Black Bishop's picture

These people (the Qatari bigshots) are completely delusional. Hope they get assfucked bent over a white Toyota pickup.

SoilMyselfRotten's picture

All of this love for the Syrian people is making me weepy. Who knew the ME was filled with such compassionate peeps.

Stainless Steel Rat's picture
Stainless Steel Rat (not verified) SoilMyselfRotten Oct 22, 2015 8:08 AM

They get away with it by saying it is against Iran.  And Assad has no say about who can help because he is a "dictator" while Qatars and the Saudis are "monarchs".

I hope the American people say no quickly enough to picking a side in this shitstorm.

Urban Redneck's picture

This bullshit out of the worthless Al Thanis is sorely tempting me to "misplace" some rather incriminating documents.

Bumpo's picture

Don't be suprised if Iran sends a big fat one to your palace back home, then ...

AlaricBalth's picture

In 2009, Qatar proposed to run a natural gas pipeline through Syria and Turkey to Europe. Instead, Assad forged a pact with Iraq and Iran to run a pipeline eastward, allowing those Shia-dominated countries access to the European natural gas market while denying access to Sunni Saudi Arabia and Qatar. It would seem that Qatar is willing to risk full spectrum war in order to get its pipeline.  From a geopolitical and economic perspective, the conflict in Syria is a false civil war, and is the result of larger international players positioning themselves on the geopolitical chessboard in preparation for the opening of the pipeline in 2016. Assad’s pipeline decision, which could solidify the natural gas advantage for the three Shia states, also demonstrates Russia’s ties to Syrian petroleum and the region through Assad. Saudi Arabia and Qatar, as well as al Qaeda and other groups, are attempting to depose Assad and monetize their hoped-for Sunni conquest in Damascus. By doing this, they hope to gain a share of control over any “new” Syrian government, and a share in the pipeline wealth.  As always, Cui Bono? (Who Benefits?).

Fahque Imuhnutjahb's picture

OHHHhhhhh SNAP!!!  Now the Qatari military is gettin' involved---all fuckin' nine of 'em!!!

Manthong's picture

Everybody into the pool!

Doesn’t this sound a little Armageddonish?

And what, no Jews involved?

Fahque Imuhnutjahb's picture

 

 

They have their own segregated pool, where you been?  and if they decide to dip a toe, it'll be chicken style

on Uncle Sugar's back ,ala--Thunder Dome's Master Blaster---you get two guesses at who the Master is.

quintago's picture

This ought to be funny. Qater, with its population of 2M cowards, seeking to fight. Somebody needs to tell these jackholes that money doesn't buy you class OR bravery. Of course, perhaps they can hire bangladeshi and filipinos to fight their wars since they can't even build anything without bringing in outside help. I'd like to see what they do when the war starts.

Russia will be all too happy to set them back 20 years.

logically possible's picture

set them back ten years, that would be back to the stone age. As long as the U.S. does not give them weapons, no worries, Russia will give them a quick change of direction.

Bunghole's picture

I cant wait for World Cup 2022 in Qatar.

Played on a sheet of glass.

pods's picture

Why do I always crave tater salad when I see these inbred table cloth wearing fucks?

pods

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Crack a history book, and what will you find?  Invasions mis-labelled as civil wars!

For eg. there was the 'War of the Roses' in Britain all those years ago.  Its my contention THAT was an invasion, but because the invaders won, they said "It was not a war of conquest, just mere infighting, a civil war.  Nothing to see here, move along."

And here we are 400+ years later, and the same TRICK still works!

RafterManFMJ's picture
Qatar Threatens 

 

LOL fucking nice one!

August's picture

Diplomatic yapping, from the regional chihuahua.

Bendromeda Strain's picture

>Clock boy is heading over there to make timers

>Clock boy is heading over there to wear timers

NoVa's picture

I sure hope the PGA golf tours in Qatar and Turkey do not get cancelled.

That would be a REAL SHAME.

 

NoVa

 

CuttingEdge's picture

So compassionate that Qatar and SA are crammed to the gunnells with fellow muslims fleeing Syria...err...wait a sec...

Wish they would just stick to fucking goats and young boys behind the nearest sand dune.

flapdoodle's picture

What do you mean a population of 2 million? Its actually only 280,000 Qataris that can put up with living in Qatar - the rest of the 2m people are ex-pat Qataris living elsewhere!

51c in the summer in Qatar is proof enough that strong sunlight will turn your brain into oatmeal (something confirmed by the number of time John McIsane has been reelected in Phoenix).

anti-republocrat's picture

They don't need people.  With their money, they can hire Swiss mercenaries.

hungarianboy's picture

I think I move from Europe to China. Live somewhere in a ghost city or so.

J Jason Djfmam's picture

"Asshat has to go!"

"He attacks his own people!"

zelator's picture

Just like bellingcat.com run out of some guys London flat.  MSM gives it great credibility. lol

Blackfox's picture

can they not just run it through Egypt? or is that was the Revolution and counter-revolution was about?

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

OK, from Qatar/SA to Egypt, then where?  Across the Mediterranean?  Over to Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and THEN into Spain?

Blackfox's picture

Did they not lay a pipe in the black sea? If they can lay them there then why not the med. The UK also has pipes in the North Sea.

El Vaquero's picture

Laying pipe in might cost more.  Besides, they're better suited to laying pipe in a camel's ass.  

two hoots's picture

We will make sure that we confront Iran's actions and shall use all our political, economic and military powers to defend our territory and people.”

Huh?

Strait of Hormuz could get choked up.

Take religion and oil out of this and what's left?

 

 


Fahque Imuhnutjahb's picture

sand??  I'm long the Sand ETF, for full disclosure, so don't be suprised if I talk my book. 

But I'm actually hedging by being short of physical sand in lira.

e_goldstein's picture

If things keep going the way they are, instead of being long sand, you may want to be long radioactive glass.

El Vaquero's picture

A bunch of inbred fucks, that's what's left.

Kayman's picture

As clear a message that you can get that Qatar, Turkey, and the Saudis are the Puppet Masters behind ISIS.  Of course, you aren't going to hear/see that on American MSM.

giovanni_f's picture

"Seventy-two terrorist targets have been hit in six Syrian provinces over the past 24 hours, Russia's Defense Ministry reports".

What was it again with that "American MSM"?

 

Kolchak's picture

You missed one big brown hole, Netanyahu and the zionazi jews who run saud and qatar.

opport.knocks's picture

LOL - when did the American people ever have a say? TPTB just have too pull off a stunt as big as 911 and "we the sheeple" are in...,

"...the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

~ Hermann Goring

Calmyourself's picture

And who does the sheik send to fight?  Why his Malaysian and Pakistani domestic staff/slaves  of course..

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Also, you accuse the 'pacificts' of being cowards, and then tell the women to socially ostracize them!  YES, this KIND OF SHIT really happened!

Socratic Dog's picture

Happened like that Australia WWII.  Go fight and die, or no pussy for you.

researchfix's picture

Sure they get away with ´saying´ against Iran.

They will not get away with ´doing´ against Iran.

 

Mr. Cynic's picture

I was thinking the same thing.  What compassion and humanitarian concern KAS and Qatar (et al) have for those poor Syrians.  Almost makes you think they might open up their countries to the floods of refugees.........Nah!  Let's don't get too slap happy.

Never One Roach's picture

To celebrate the King's announcement, there will be a festival .... three beheadings [of infidels] .... four stonnings [of girls who dared to drive a car] and food for all spectators --- a dozen spit-roasted camels!

Winston of Oceania's picture

A dozen years ago my stepdaughter was turning nineteen, the same age as a mentally disabled girl in Persia. My daughter is autistic and had much in common with the girl in Persia. There were however many differences, the Persian girl was sold into prostitution because she was a burden to her family. The Mullahs decided she was unchaiste and hanged her from the cable of a crane, so let's not play the morals game eh skippy?