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Putin Just Warned Global War Is Increasingly More Likely: Here's Why
Vladimir Putin is basking in Russia’s triumphant return to the world stage.
What began with a land grab in Crimea and escalated with support for the separatists at Donetsk, culminated in Moscow’s dramatic entry into Syria’s protracted civil war.
To be sure, the deplorable (not to mention comically absurd) strategy adopted by the US and its regional allies in Syria set Putin up for success. The situation was highly exploitable by anyone that’s strategically minded and thanks to the convoluted set of alliances Washington has built with groups that later turned out to be extremists, Moscow gets to achieve its regional ambitions while simultaneously fighting terrorism. Meanwhile, Washington, Riyadh, Ankara, and Doha are left to look on helplessly as their Sunni extremist proxy armies are devastated by the Russian air force. The Kremlin knows there’s little chance that the West and its allies will step in to directly support the rebels - the optics around that would quickly turn into a PR nightmare.
All of this has provided the perfect backdrop for Putin to begin what’s amounted to a lecture tour on how to conduct foreign policy.
Soundbites have ranged from very serious commentary on why the West should not employ extremists to bring about regime change to comical jabs at the US and its allies who the Russian President last week accused of having “oatmeal brains” when it comes to Mid-East policy.
Speaking today at the International Valdai Discussion Club's 12th annual meeting in Sochi, Putin delivered a sweeping critique of military strategy and foreign policy touching on everything from the erroneous labeling of some extremists as “moderates” to the futility of nuclear war.
“Why play with words dividing terrorists into moderate and not moderate. What's the difference?,” Putin asked, adding that “success in fighting terrorists cannot be reached if using some of them as a battering ram to overthrow disliked regimes [because] it's just an illusion that they can be dealt with [later], removed from power and somehow negotiated with.”
"I'd like to stress once again that [Russia's operation in Syria] is completely legitimate, and its only aim is to aid in establishing peace," Putin said of Moscow’s Mid-East strategy. And while he’s probably telling the truth there, it’s only by default. That is, peace in Syria likely means the restoration of Assad (it's difficult to imagine how else the country can be stabilized in the short-term), and because that aligns with Russia’s interests, The Kremlin is seeking to promote peace - it’s more a tautology than it is a comment on Putin’s desire for goodwill towards men.
And then there’s Iran and its nascent nuclear program. Putin accused the US of illegitimately seeking to play nuclear police officer, a point on which he is unquestionably correct: The "hypothetical nuclear threat from Iran is a myth. The US was just trying to destroy the strategical balance, [and] not to just dominate, but be able to dictate its will to everyone – not only geopolitical opponents, but also allies."
Speaking of nukes, Putin also warned that some nuclear powers seem to believe that there’s a way to take the “mutually” out of “mutually assured destruction.”
That is, Putin warned against the dangers of thinking it’s possible to “win” a nuclear war. Commenting on US anti-missile shields in Europe and on the idea of MAD, Putin said the following:
"We had the right to expect that work on development of US missile defense system would stop. But nothing like it happened, and it continues. This is a very dangerous scenario, harmful for all, including the United States itself. The deterrent of nuclear weapons has started to lose its value, and some have even got the illusion that a real victory of one of the sides can be achieved in a global conflict, without irreversible consequences for the winner itself – if there is a winner at all.”
In short, Putin is suggesting that the world may have gone crazy. The implication is that the US believes it not only has the capacity to win a war against the nations Washington habitually places on its various lists of "bad guys" (i.e. Russia, Iran, and China), but that Washington believes America can win without incurring consequences that are commensurate with the damage the US inflicts on its enemies. That, Putin believes, is a dangerous miscalculation and one that could end up endangering US citizens.
So once again, this is Putin setting the narrative and jumping at every opportunity to portray Russia as a nation that's not content to "lead from behind" (as so many have recently accused the US of doing). And once again, his assessment seems remarkably sober in a world that does indeed seem to have lost its collective mind.
Full speech (translated) below.
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Im set,I dont know if Mrs Popper can make bread as good as Mrs Horseman's ???But shes got the canned venison down and makes a great brisket
Psychopaths and sociopaths delight!
You just can't launch a global central bank and new world order currency unless you break a few eggs.
So a few hundred million have to die, so what? Is the world really going to miss the Dallas Cowboys and the city of Dallas, TX that much?
it will be significantly more than a few hundred million, i have old soviet causality maps that you will not believe.
If our survival depends on rather or not a surface to air missile system can shoot down Russian ICBMs I really hope it's not made by the same defense contractors that made the F35 and the other multi billion dollar boondoggles we have bought recently. Derp...
Do we have any anti missle capabilities along the northern border with Canada? because thats the direction they would be coming from.
WOLVERINES (original)
Putin is really pushing the "nuclear war" angle hard.
I guess his good friend Henry Kissinger must have told him that power is the only thing that NeoCon fucknuts like himself understand...
so this is like the "good cop, bad cop" routine? But it's now the "effeminate cop, manly cop" routine with Barry and Vlad?
For any who want to read it, here is some detailed information on what the USSR's nuclear strategy was during the Cold War:
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/nukevault/ebb285/
While some things will have changed due to changes in technology, what kinds of targets the Russians would pick is likely much the same as it was when it was part of the USSR. If you live near a target, this might be helpful:
http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
article lost me at 'land grab in crimea'
if 95% of the people vote to go back to russia, how is that represented as russian imperialist greed?
The people of the Falklands voted to remain associated with the UK. The citizens of Quebec, Canada nearly voted themselves out of Canada, the citizens of Scotland nearly voted themselves out of the the UK, Self Determination is respected by the UN as being a fundamental right of all peoples, so of course when the the citizens of Crimea undertake exactly the same process and vote to join Russia it is a Russian imperialist land grab.
Watch more MSM. They will explain it all to you.
Generally we don't expect the kind of embedded propaganda under a "Tyler" by line.
You have not being reading carefully for at least the last 6 months.
I have--almost everything is posted by a Tyler but usually the propaganda pieces have a different byline.
Bomb out shelters in Florida?
Yeah good one.
Well, anyway, just find the first sink hole, that should do it.
Russian ICBM's can't be shot down with air defense missiles.
Russian ICBM's constantly recalculate their trajectory following a continually regenerated 'random path' through 3D space all the way to their target. The downside is that the missles need 20% more fuel.
All air defense systems work by tracking a missle and projecting it's trajectory then triangulating an intercept location and launching an interceptor to that location.
But by the time the interceptor reaches the intercept location the Russian ICBM will have changed course several times and is likely to be thousands of meters away.
In order to intercept a Russian ICBM the interceptor needs to travel at over 35,000mph. Good luck with that.
George Bush decided he wanted a Star Wars missle defense system and after spending a boat load of cash.. the Kremlin called in the US amabasador and told them all Russian missle had just received a software upgrade that would render Star Wars obsolete before it was even built. The Star Wars program was scrapped within a month.
That Crimean land grab really irks me.
Where can I find Catherine the Great to tell her how mad I am?
San Trancisco.
Who is Gog?
http://www.raptureready.com/featured/gillette/bg68.html
manthong, the obvious answer is she is fucking a horse, in san francisco.
When ur Tribe(tm) is the king of New York and Hollywood...you seem to think the world is your oyster (slaves).
they seem to, at first glance.
Shellfish aren't considered Kosher.
Not a problem for someone who can Think outside the Box -- as I do:
You simply launch two waves: the 1st one to get close enough to the incoming ICBM and detonate an EMP that's strong enough to kill its electronics. If it has a fallback to Inertial Guidance, which will keep it on a steady course, you then launch the 2nd wave that will take them out completely. Problem solved.
In reality, what will probably happen, is that it will be a veritable swarm of Cruise Missiles and Drones that will overwhelm any defense (Bandwidth is a bitch), and thus preserve the MAD balance of deterrence.
MIRV - Multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle. Russian ICBMs seem to have 10 war heads per missle. So if they are not stopped on the way up. They turn into 10 times the intercept problem on the way down. Good luck stopping that.
everyone who enjoys these last few comments, no matter how on point or insightful, and hasn't, needs, badly, to watch one of peter sellers' masterworks, dr. strangelove. the other two are lolita and being there. there are also others very good.
this is the best.
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v19483133d9a7jQka
kirk, nice to see you, hoping you are well...glad to see you are still outside the box. ;-)
Good to see Everyman, an ancient legend.
Relying on EMP to kill ICBMs won't work. Lets just say that they wouldn't fly, with or without EMP, if they weren't hardened. And the US already messed around with using nuclear missiles to take out incoming warheads. Look up the Sprints and the Spartans (missiles.)
Russian nukes, we have nukes tooo
Lots of 'em in Fla. Bay of Pigs.
DUCK AND COVER !!!!
Whoever wrote this is pretty right on about the current NWO plan for rolling out a global government if you're interested. It involves a switch to what they term a "multipolar" world.
http://redefininggod.com/understanding-the-nwo-strategy/
I've posted links to that piece - and many other of Ken's articles, as well as Brandon Smith's, who writes in a similar vein - many times on these pages. Both Ken and Brandon provide links to relevant information, give well-reasoned arguments, and their arguments are based on the same research of such stalwarts as Carroll Quigley, Antony Sutton, Gary Allen and Gary Abraham. I'd seriously like to see people who downvote this information provide reasoned arguments about why they don't see what these people see, instead of just reflexively dismissing them.
Merkel must have been off her meds for a bit..
she let this slip out:
Merkel says migrant influx a fallout from globalization
http://news.yahoo.com/merkel-says-migrant-influx-fallout-globalisation-171024495.html
i think smg deserves as well reasoned and offered a reply. unfortunately i am unfamiliar with his writers and their opinions.
maybe including some of that would have increased the audience. and links.
OK, here's a link to a free downloadable version of 'None Dare Call it Conspiracy,' which is a great place to start (and it's a really short book):
kamron.com/Downloads/none dare call it conspiracy.pdf
It was written by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham, who were speechwriters for Governor George Wallace...who was shot just hours before he was going to give a speech based on the information found in this book. The only problem with the book is that the charts are not good quality, as the PDF format is not good. The updated version of the book, 'Call it Conspiracy' from 1985 is available for a decent price on Amazon, though.
IV - Are you familiar with Michael Kordorkovsky? If so, please explain his case in light of your argument. Thanks. Doesn't have to be a thesis. From my perspective, his case seems to be one of a number of real life examples that contradict they're all in it together claim.
Russia was conquered by the banksters under Yeltsin. They knew how to cynically fabricate elections. They owned the media. They owned the banks. They owned all the significant means to create wealth. The Russian oligarchs and the global banksters, including the Rothchilds were joined at the hip. What good did it do the bankster cabal to let it all go? What benefit did they derive by having their agents stripped of their assets? Same question, why was it good for the bankster clique to have their top level operatives in the country flee, get disposessed, thrown in prison and/or wind up dead?
"I'd seriously like to see people who downvote this information provide reasoned arguments about why they don't see what these people see, instead of just reflexively dismissing them."
I reply all the time. Maybe you should take a look? Thanks for the link.
more: Earlier reply on a BS thread. Lively discussion follows. ConfederateH makes a clear case. Some nutcake roccman, claims "The Rothchilds are part of the slave class"!! Do they know? Starts here ->http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-16/guest-post-false-eastwest-paradigm-and-end-freedom#comment-6678552
OK, just reading through his Wikipedia page, I see that he made a lot of his fortune (especially early) by gaming the government, and most likely he stepped on a lot of other oligarch's toes in the process. Also, this gave me pause:
"In 2001, Khodorkovsky launched the Open Russia Foundation in Somerset House in London, owned by the Rothschild's Family Trust, with Henry Kissinger as its trustee."
"In 2003 Khodorkovsky's shares in Yukos passed to Jacob Rothschild under a deal that they had concluded prior to Khodorkovsky's arrest."
Reading further down, it seems he had a fundamentally different belief in what Russian government should be, and wasn't shy about expressing it:
"Khodorkovsky is openly critical of what he refers to as "managed democracy" within Russia. Careful normally not to criticise the current leadership, he says the military and security services exercise too much authority. He told The Times:
"It is the Singapore model, it is a term that people understand in Russia these days. It means that theoretically you have a free press, but in practice there is self-censorship. Theoretically you have courts; in practice the courts adopt decisions dictated from above. Theoretically there are civil rights enshrined in the constitution; in practice you are not able to exercise some of these rights.""
So, I think he may have been targeted by the globalists for removal because he was too powerful and not 'in line' with their goals, but not before giving him a chance first (what with the start of the Rothschild foundation). Plus, getting rid of him made it look like Putin was not afraid to go after REAL power and put oligarchs in their place, a view that serves him well at this time in history (though it was frowned upon at the time).
And the facts are that he is STILL not enamored of Putin and wants to replace him, as stated later on in the 'US visit' part of the page. So, it may be simply that he was not a man who could be 'bought;' had fundamental differences of opinion on Putin; and served as a sacrificial pawn that propped up belief in Putin having the power to confront even the biggest big-wigs. Plus, as has often been seen throughout history, the very top echelons of this globalist system have absolutely no compunctions about getting rid of some of their servants if it serves the higher cause. Anyway, that's my quick analysis based on the Wiki page.
IV thanks for picking up the thread.
So, "managed democracy", come on IV, Kordorkovsky's team, the Globalist, Soros, Knuleman Kagan team created the "managed democracy". Then, Kordorkovsky is crying about being stuck outside the gate his Zionist team set up. Too bad for them through a strange twist of fate, Putin, who was selected to replace the drunk and unequivical, oligarch front-man, Yeltsin, turned out to be a Russian Patriot. Or at least a guy who was determined to take back the stolen wealth of his country by among other things, clawing it back from oligarchs. Russian standard of living took off.
There's a lot on YouTube. Try this - The Rise of Putin and The Fall of The Russian-Jewish Oligarchs (1/2)
well, thank you. i'm not so sure how helpful calling this "communism" is; i think you put off communists who are potential allies.
but a conspiracy of the rich against the world? hell yes.
The argument I don't buy is that there is no conflict or rivalry among the rich and powerful, that they are a monolithic block and they're all in it together. Powerful made men wind up dead. Just ridiculus, in my mind, that some people consider that cooperation.
Yes, there is undoubtedly conflicts at the oligarch level. In fact, I would venture to say that it is ENCOURAGED, as it both creates chaos and gives the impression that there ARE rifts at the highest levels. The thing is, the oligarchs are NOT the highest level; they are only the players in the casino - they are NOT the House. And at the house level, there is perfect agreement and meticulous planning.
OF course, not all things go according to plan, but when chaos is part of your plan (to hide the overlying structure), it's all good in the end - because: a good crisis NEVER GOES TO WASTE! So, there are fights between oligarchs as they split the pie made available to them...but all the ingredients, the pie dish, the oven, the chef etc. are all supplied courtesy of the house.
You know IV, if no one ever sees this even higher layer you are talking about, no offense, maybe it does not exist? Is roccoman correct in that "the Rothchilds are at the slave level"?
You skipped over the Michael Khordorkovsky question. Is he just expendable? And Boris Berezovsky, the richest man in Russia, the "Gray Ghost of the Kremlin". The Zionist guy who held all the reigns of power in the Kremlin? He was just expendable too? Are your hidden powers playing to lose? It sounds like a discussion the ancient Greeks had about their gods. What are those crazy gods we up to now? A New World Order that will surplant the Zionist World Order is a good thing for most people.
There's a larger picture here you're just not getting.
Here, take a look at this chart, the history of the reserve currency: http://azizonomics.com/2012/01/04/a-history-of-reserve-currencies-in-one...
That chart only goes back to 1400, but in actuality it stretches back to Sumerian times. But you can see that there is a definite, step-wise pattern there. A reserve currency - the currency used for international trade - has a prescribed 'shelf life' of from 70-100 years, after which it is supplanted. Digging deeper into that chart and looking at what happens throughout time, especially at the times of transition, a common thread can be found: there are only 13 families (plus the Vatican) who have been linked to the money supply throughout history. The names may change (like Bauer to Rothschild), as does the currency, but a definite lineage can be found there.
What happens is that those who control the money supply use that money to 'buy' greedy, power-hungry psychopaths to do their dirty work. They are the power behind kings and queens, but choose to not be visible themselves. When they gain control of a powerful leader (and his armies), they use him to take control of a country and consolidate their gains, then they further their aims by getting him and other leaders of other countries they control to attack other countries that they DON'T control, and they use the currency of the main country they currently operate out of to buy up assets, backed up with force.
Over time, they basically bankrupt the country that they have been using as hosts, and when they are done with it, they then go on to 'buy' another psychopathic leader of yet *another* country they don't yet control and PAY HIM TO ATTACK THEIR CURRENT COUNTRY (just look up the history of the House of Orange for a good example). Then they move on to control that new country and consolidate their gains, looking at their next target.
At the current time, these families/Vatican/Zionists have a central bank in nearly every country, which is their 'seat of control' for the country. The only (major) countries that didn't have such central banks a decade or so ago were: Tunisia, Libya, Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea, and a couple of others. See a pattern there?
In order to carry out their nefarious plans, those at the top of this pyramid can - and do - use oligarchs as pawns to further their aims. If one oligarch isn't privy to their plans - or can't be bought - then they'll just find someone else who WILL do their bidding, and remove the one who won't play their game.
A good book which outlines some of this is William Bramley's 'Gods of Eden.'
And a p.s. on the Rothchilds being 'slaves' - yes, yes they are. Bramley makes that case very well. Now, slaves to whom? THAT I won't answer here, because...well, this isn't a conspiracy website :-)
We do have bomb shelters in Florida.
We call them 'fat chicks with deep thighs.'
Oh Yeah.
East Central.
although we obviously share similar interests, john galt fla is whistling past a graveyard.
one, of many, dirtly secrets of florida is that there are no basements (for you to return to and live out your days, japanese style). not only that but the ubiquitous swimming pools are not a done deal. don't put it in during september, for instance. let's just say if you do you may be making cookies for your neighbors (don't ask).
My take. The Tylers have over the last year grown more and more prone to insert a certain bias into their own articles. In the last 6 months it increased and now it is blantant at times.
Remember the Tyler authored postings that there WAS a russian sub that was in trouble and calling for help. Tyler declared there was a sub and that it was Russian. Or the sub that caught a UK fisherman's net that the Tylers (I think it was Tyler) claimed had to be Russian?
But that is my take and opinion on this.
They've obviously taken 30 pieces of silver from the usual culprits.
Joos?
Butt we can still cuss.
(thaz got to account for sumtin')
yes, yes it does.
but still victoria nuland pisses me off.
You've been here for, um, SIX WEEKS. Oh, and 6 days.
SO, basically, 'your' take on the past year of Tyler Durden's articles is a load of CRAP.
Suckitup, little punk, and come back in a year to tell everyone how it REALLY IS (in YOUR opinion) over the PAST YEAR.
http://www.zerohedge.com/users/blankone
I actually MET Tyler Durden on a transcontinental flight once. Did you know that he sells soap for a living?
NO, REALLY!
He gave me his business card.
A guy who sells soap can't be correct 100% of the time, when it comes to spying and global macroeconomics and and the totalitarian push for a world order and shit like that. I'll settle for what information i can get (and vett it myself). YOU, on the other hand, choose to attack CERTAIN things which may later prove to be incorrect. WHY do you do this, PUNK?
Been here much longer than that. Got banned for calling out the Tylers about a few predictions in their past articles that turned out to total BS. And the issue was not related to financial markets but to their claims against Russia.
the guy who started it was gay. also the guy that started it was russian. are these different people? i like gays and russians.
it's better than a lot of places; most.
if the start is russian, there could be strong individual opinions that u.s.ers couldn't understand even after a second explanation.
but maybe not
keep after them. the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Agreed, Bastiat, if ZH continues down this false information road I will read my propaganda elsewhere. It's really easy to find the bad stuff like this article. I have been coming to ZH for years to read something better but now they are losing it.
oh yes yes yes. the exclusion of tel aviv/war crime jerusalem in the list of involved capitals is laughable, and damning. the strongest force in u.s. politics currently is neoconservatism.
when george bush the younger asked his father what neoconservatism was, the much wiser and nearly as guilty father said "israel". sorry i don't have a source but i can't stop myself. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-big-question-what-i...
bastiat (the original french guy, sorry) is a hell of a person. no one forget him.
There has been more distortion and bread-and-circus pieces. The bulk of the web is being turned into a honeypot for fed.gov.
Yes, opinions challenging the status quo are tolerated -- perhaps even encouraged -- here. But sometimes I wonder why. It must be profitable to someone....
If that line wasn't in the article, many Would classify this as root in for Putin popaganda..which might be why it's there...
rooting for putin
someone has to do it. when oh when will these zionists find shame? i thought jews suffered from guillt nearly as an ethnic trait.
apparently not.
There's no value in trying to provide balance to insane propaganda. ZH should just throw up the truth as best they can and let the chips fall where they may, imho.
Similar topic: What was up with theSaker insisting there was no troop build-up? My guess - operational cover.
Not sure where you get your facts, maybe in fantasy land.
Putin annexed Crimea and violated an endless number of Russia’s international commitments.
Armed people seized the building of the Parliament of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. Later 47 deputies of the Parliament without a quorum voted in the referendum under the barrel of guns. Nothing was fair or free, In fact the ethnic Tatars boycotted the election, knowing it was a scam. So did the Ukrainians that lived there, and they represented the majority not to mention not all of the Russians were in favor of joining Russia. Polls were done earlier and showed under fair elections they had no chance, so things unraveled the way it did. Did you know if you had a Russian passport you could vote, considering there was huge Russian bases there, and bus loads of Russians that voted, its no wonder how it turned out. In some areas the turnouts were over 120 percent. This was all planed years in advance from Moscow, and was openly stated by multiple sources.
Liar
Well Said. Just another lying Ukie Troll spewing out false propaganda. Their mentally sick hatred of Russia deludes them into thinking they can create reality by endlessly repeating the same lies.
Even Forbes, the mouthpiece of USSA empire, denies your lies.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2015/03/20/one-year-after-russia-a...
I wonder how Putin would fair vs. Obama in a poll of popularity in the United States.
i know how i'm voting.
it would be interesting. i'd especially like to see it by congressional district or neighborhood, the smaller the better.
if i haven't said it lately, obama is a turd.
In general this is a key point of Ukrainians: "it's a shame that the Russians once again proved to be right".
Even if that is true, it sounds about as 'fair' as a 'murican election. Bussing in illegals, no verification, dead people voting, intimidation, no way to audit the electronic machines, missing boxes, and anyone higher up in the counting process is a party rat, etc, etc...
most of the people in crimea speak russian. i think they are not voting for the ukrainians.
'perkunas' is the avatar name of VICKI NULAND; NEONAZI KIKE BITCH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL_GShyGv3o
Oh, and FUCK the E.U.!
WAIT, I might be incorrect. Is this Johnny 'songbird' McCain, or is it HITLERY RODHAM?
what am i to make of this? are you drunk?
victoria nuland is no joke. i just had to censor myself, if you get my drift.
And Texas, if given the chance, might vote themselves out of the U.S.!
"...and vote to join Russia..."
I think the word you're looking for is "rejoin."
Yep, that struck me too.
A shockingly open Putin's summary of the current situation that every American should hear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQuceU3x2Ww
excellent. thank you.
I guess someone thinks the Crinea landgrab crack is 'journalist balance' ?
They lost one point for that one, but the rest if the article was pretty good
This is the Jews.
Their Greater Israel has been blown up by Vlad.
They will never have it so they want to choose the Samson Option.
The chart of Syria is horrific, I mean total destruction from now to 2016!
It locks onto the USA chart.
It locks onto Putins chart.
Who the fuck knows what Obama chart is, since he lied about everything serious astrologers
don't even use his dirty data.
i like the astrogical references. almost gives a shakespearean vibe.
i wonder if the endgame for brave little israel could be so close. no, walk away. think of something else.
i was talking to a female lawyer who is palestininian a couple of days ago and asked her if she knew who george marshall was (and by implication his feelings about palestine) and she said she did.
Agreed - the last thing the monster country named Russia needs in more land. Crimea joining with Russia was not about hetting more land for Russia. There were other factors at work.
Naval access to the Mediterranean. And consequently Syria. Pretty simple. If you think Putin would sit by and watch his only warm-water naval port, and the Black Sea Fleet, disappear, I have a bridge you may be interested in.
Great targeting maps.
With about forty of those 5 kiloton puppies, you can take out all of the world's financial districts, and leave the actual biosphere intact.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
You know, Vaquero, that nuclear detonation model would make thee perfect Christmas gift for my computer illiterate NeoCon cousin, Bob the Bloviator.......Packaged in a blackbox, with sound effects, preferably capable of playing scenarios with one hand, maybe even a joystick, so that he can still have his other hand free to beat off to Bill O'Reilly. Please, can somebody get a prototype going?
The Bloviator Detonator, for 'merica's armchair warriors
don't say anything more until you have patent protection.
More like good acting vs. bad acting if you ask me...
I guess Henry Kissinger is officially a traitor now. > http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/world/europe/henry-kissinger-to-meet-w...
Kissinger has been telling the other neocons to tone it down with Russia. He may be an evil bastard, but he is a pragmatic evil bastard.
Kissinger and Berzerkski are the CFR/Rockefeller owned chess masters behind the NWO.
Putin is Kissingers creation. Just as Obama is Berzerkskis. (Brzezinski)
Keep on sucking up those red arrows like a badge of courage, ZH. After all, this is FIGHT CLUB: stand up for what you believe in, and if it is the truth - which I believe it is - in the end, all who have been exposed to it will benefit in the end. If we are wrong, well...actually, I PRAY that we are wrong, because if we are right, then very very few will be ready for what is to come...
i think if we were honest, both k and b are war criminals deserving of prison. probably henry is the more guilty but that may seem to be because he is more memorable (channeling sellers as strangelove).
Prision is too good for them, I would hang and gut 'em.
The NWO is on its way and will ride down a massive slope of dead bodies.
They are going to try FEAR first... But if that doesn't work then yes... dead bodies.
has nothing to do with kissinger, it has to do with the PUBLISHED Wolfowitz doctrine and the insane fucks at PNAC and APIAC who seem to think the USSA can "win" a nuclear first strike war with Russia, and they've publiced it repeatedly, both in print and on TV
Au contraire... it has everything to do with Heinz and Zbig.
After all it's the CFR running the United States.
Actually, that may have been entirely true back in 1985 before Abraham posted his infamous poster listing everyone who was a member and who they worked for, but I suspect many of them went 'underground' after that. Hence, people like Paul Craig Roberts, who don't show up on the official roster.
i'm not sure what you mean (links?) but the truth seems in between, in this case.
and by that i mean it doesn't matter if it's kissinger or the uber famous vietnam war protester who sort of threw his medals over the white house fence. you know, ketchup boy.
they play for the same team.
it's not what the parties disagree on that is the problem. it's what they agree on.
Here's a link on the CFR:
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2013/12/21/the-council-on-foreign-relat...
It's a good expose, with pretty good links if you want to dig further. But I agree with what you say: they all play for the same team, and they're wearing the shirts, not us.
Land grab in the Crimea?
Fuck off.
Yes. But the F-35 designers said they only work when the temperature is between 65-80 degrees.
Did Luckup design the F-35?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II
They'd be practically useless on this continent because of the decoys accompanying the 'physics packages.' The sine qua non of an effective ABM system is the ability to destroy the missiles during the boost phase. The importance of eastern Ukraine is its proximity to Russian ICBM bases, which is why 'our' government spent $5 billion to foment the coup.
i've thought about it and victoria nuland wouldn't work that hard to protect the united states of america.
it's about israel.
"Do we have any anti missle capabilities along the northern border with Canada? because thats the direction they would be coming from?"
Relax trulz,
the Gremlins got you covered.
Besides, everyone in Canada knows how to jimmy the door open on their microwave ovens and point them at the sky while they're cookin'; it's all part of Basic Hunter Training in Canuck middle school.
Six nukes is all it takes. Three for an EMP strike and three for the carrier ports. After that the US would not be able to project naval power anywhere and would slowly and impotently starve to death. The only option left would be to destroy the world, would Barry do it? Not unless his masters said he should. "Looks to me like the golf greens are still okay"
carriers today remind me of the battleships at pearl harbor that franklin roosevelt watched sink with mixed emotions.
i'm no expert but i would think missiles and submarines.
"Do we have any anti missle capabilities along the northern border with Canada?" - No, none. And not with current US technology. Even if there were, would not help much. Lots of factors here: too great of an area=not enough time to identify, confirm it's a real launch, react, calculate the course, calculate the intercept point, calculate the targeting info, launch the missile + missile travel time etc. All in under 15-20 minutes. ICBM's travel at great speeds. Russian ICBM's also use multiple countermeasures, such as "fake warheads" that act exactly like real ones. These are just a few things to consider. Also, why Canada? Russian ICBM's can also fly through the South Pole.
Meh. That is just a boogey man to keep Canucks under the boot.
<<Do we have any anti missle capabilities along the northern border with Canada? because thats the direction they would be coming from.>>
How sure are you that missiles can clear the Arctic Pole? It is very magnetic around there.
Oh dont worry it is Carl. That little Caspian missle shoot off the shrimp boats has caused these morons to realize there may be a few gaping ass holes in the curtain has them scrambling. I present you their panic contract to "protect the homeland" just issued to..........Yep. Lockheed Martin. purveyors of the fine F35 aircraft.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/21/lockheed-radar-missile-defense...
I feel safer already
Speaking of military contracts, Last year Russia upgraded and refurbished over 5000 underground atomic bomb shelters built in the old Soviet days that are located in every province of Russia for their people. He knows what kind of nimcompoops he is dealing with. They did this after the White House porch monkey decided to move patriot batteries to E. Europe then blew him off and claimed they were pointed at Iran. Remember the Interview where Putin bust out laughing at the reporter who suggested this?
Now ask yourself how many underground shelters has your government provided for us, other than the huge complex in Utah for the President and politicians to move safely too? I certainly don't know where one is in my state unless I was to dig it myself.The only thing I know of that they did to prepare for disaster is Fema built millions of plastic coffin like things that are being stored around everywhere.
They are only worried about protecting themselves and don't give a rats ass about you other than taxes. Their only concern for you is you might lay around to long stinking up the place.
excellent analysis.
Re greens: rather or not a surface to air missile system can shoot down Russian ICBMs
While it is not the same as an ICBM, and the launch time and location was known - I believe the Russian rocket carrying an intel satelite that failed before it gained orbit went down due to being hit by an object. It has been a while since that happened but the video's showing the streak of something apparently hitting it or close to it looked believable. If so it was a bold message that Russia must finally confront or be bullied while economically disected.
It was also so public that it showed a lack of fear. If it was hit Russia would have known what happened and staying silent to save face is a sign of weakness.
or, i guess, not.
putin doesn't look like he's afraid.
obama always looks afraid. of his wife. of his college transcripts. of his cia career. of the republicans. of his shadow.
oh, by the way, here's some stuff on videos with interesting flying things in them. get matt lauer to explain it to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gORu-68SHpE.
Russian ICBM's can't be shot down with air defense missiles.
Russian ICBM's constantly recalculate their trajectory following a continually regenerated 'random path' to their target.
All air defense systems work by tracking a missle and projecting it's trajectory then triangulating an intercept location and launching an interceptor to that location.
But by the time the interceptor reaches the intercept location the Russian ICBM will have changed course several times and is likely to be hundreds of meters away.
In order to intercept a Russian ICBM the interceptor needs to travel at over 35,000mph. Good luck with that.
George Bush decided he wanted a Star Wars missle defense system and after spending a boat load of cash.. the Kremlin called in the US amabasador and told them all Russian missle had just received a software upgrade that would render Star Wars obsolete before it was even built. The Star Wars program was scrapped within a month.
and as a taxpayer i appreciate that.
It's not Russian ICBMs we need to worry about, it's Russian sub-launched, supersonic, ground-hugging cruise missiles.
And the answer to can we shoot them down is the same for our cruise missiles: not very likely. Having 5 minutes warning doesn't help much either.
as long as they don't try to fly airplanes into our towers we'll be able to shoot anything else down....
anything else.
do the orders still stand, sir?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsoY3AIRUGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhROd7Jt3-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgM6hjNedE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj_AL4OlmHc&feature=iv&src_vid=rnbMjAN7B...
http://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticl...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVHstSrC1CQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gORu-68SHpE.
" i have old soviet causality maps that you will not believe."
Your maps are not accurate anymore. Back in the '60s and '70s the guidance systems of ICBM's and MIRV's were primitive and inaccurate. To compensate for this inaccuracy all sides made their nuclear warheads excessively powerful enough such that a near miss would still destroy a hardened (military) target and each target had multiple dedicated warheads launched simultaneously. The consequence of the large warheads was that more civilian populations would be killed, but it was an unintended consequence. Killing populations during a strategic exchange of nuclear bombs does not win nuclear wars. The intended targets were only the oppositions military retaliatory capabilities.
But Now, warheads are accurate to within a few feet, the warheads are 'dial-a-yield' and only enough force to destroy the target will be utilized. So, the warheads, blast radius, fallout and effects are all smaller than they used to be, and the attendant loss of civilian life would be less.
Even back in the days of excessively large nuclear warheads it was still expected most of each country's population would survive an all-out nuclear exchange between the U.S. and/or Soviet Union/China.
Even if the U.S. did not evacuate it's cities or prepare it's populations, at all, it was expected that over 80% of the population would survive an all-out exchange.
And the probability of an all-out exchange upon an unprepared population was very small.
A nuclear war would consist of months, maybe years, of sabre rattling with nuclear threats, negotiations. Another round of threats, maybe a detonation or two, more negotiations and maneuvering of forces. More threats, small exchanges, negotiations and maneuvering etc. etc. etc.
With the victor most likely being the country whose population had the most stomach for a protracted nuclear exchange. The people would lose the will to fight and surrender before there was a military necessity for surrender.
Spent fuel rod cooling pools say your 80% population survival is bullshit.
Without a doubt , the world would not miss you.
Well, it is bullish for the economy, and people will forget all about that nasty old deficit. Glass craters make excellent water reservoirs for 3 headed goat farming too.
I hope Washington DC, Chicago, Baltimore, and Manhattan get taken out first to solve a lot of first world problems. Well, LA too, come to think of it.
Easy Now!
I might if the winds are blowing East. Fallout ya know.
I redact my comment below because John Galt Fla must have realized how stupid his comment was and edited it.
You are an idiot.
Go back to playing Risk and stop commenting stupid shit.
Annexing is a "land grab"?
Whens Germany going to be grabbed?
RIPS
Seceding from the Ukraine and voluntary accession to Russian Federation is annexation?
Point nonetheless is taken. Land grab? Propaganda is really cheap these days...
What began with a land grab in Crimea...
Damn straight - it looks like poopie pants Tyler has the conn again. He puts the number two in #2.
Bring back real Tyler - do it now
I know what the people chose in Crimea.
You miss sarcasm much? ;)
RIPS
Sarcastical discernment can at times be difficult. Still gave +1 for you caught land grab for what is is, which is propaganda.
You know whose sarcasm I miss? Marla's
It's all about "xenophobic scapegoating" don't ya know.
#2 Tyler is Marla Singer and Michael Shynder's Zio love child.
Putin is not suggesting that "the world has gone crazy" . . , he is explaining that the neocon leaders who drive US foreign policy are crazy to push us towards nuclear war.
i don't know what you are talking about and yet am not surprised.
Crimea voluntarily left Ukraine with help from Russian soldiers. Was their best bet but looks bad. Give it enough time and Crimea will chafe under Russian rule and try to succeed. Putin seems to be bombing his food supply in the Ukraine. Making a living in those parts is hard work and makes for tough unruly people. US Government should stay out and quit meddling. They won't because they are a bunch of Internationalist Socialist.
international somethings that's for sure.
i feel crimea will succeed.
No one wants to grab Angela
She's a Manchurian candidate. That is the only explanation for some of her weird moves.
same can be said for Bush/Bama
you would think. what is the deal? do they think we are brain dead? i am glad ralph nader is still alive to see his contentions proven true about there being really one party with two marketing strategies.
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Triumph of vocabulary.
Who the fuck is writing this shit?
When the entire executive and legislative branches are incompetent, the USA is at risk of a coup.
The main risk is that it won't succeed.
Do the cockaroaches (at the top) really think they can survive?
We the people shall be stacked like cord-wood to ensure their progeny's welfare