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US Issues Childish Ultimatum To Iraq: "It's Either Us, Or The Russians"

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At this point, it’s become difficult to keep track of the myriad embarrassments Washington has suffered since the start of Russian airstrikes in Syria. 

There’s the Russian Defense Ministry’s daily video series depicting strikes on “terrorist” targets which makes the US look incredibly inept given how little “coalition” bombing runs have accomplished over the course of more than a year. 

There’s Iran’s overt involvement on the ground which is a slap in the face for Washington as it comes just a two months after the conclusion of the nuclear deal. 

And let’s not forget about the fact that thanks to the terribly convoluted strategy Washington has attempted to implement whereby the US will i) provide behind the scenes support for Sunni extremist groups in Syria, ii) provide public support for Iran-backed Shiite militias fighting Sunni extremists in Iraq, iii) send weapons to Syrian rebels who are fighting the very same Shiite militias at Aleppo, America is literally trying to say that if you’re a Sunni extremist, you’re a friend if you’re in Syria but an enemy in Iraq and if you’re a Shiite militia, you’re a friend in Iraq but an enemy in Syria. 

Through it all, we’ve said that the ultimate humiliation would be for Russia to essentially kick the US out of Iraq. Make no mistake, the conditions are ripe for Moscow to simply muscle Washington out of the way in the country the US claims it “liberated” a little over a decade ago.

There are two main reasons why it will be easy for the Russians to move in, i) Baghdad sees that Moscow is serious about bombing ISIS and the US, for whatever reason, isn't and ii) Iran essentially controls the Iraqi army and Iraqi politics.

In short, this would simply be a sequel to the Russian-Iranian military operation in Syria and the logistics are already in place as Iran’s militias have been battling Sunni extremists in Iraq for years alongside the Iraqi regulars. The newly established intelligence sharing cell set up in Baghdad and jointly staffed by Russia, Syria, Iran, and Iraq is a precursor to what one Iraqi official hopes will be a “full-blown military alliance." 

Needless to say, the US understands all of the above and the last straw apparently came with Iraqi PM Haider al-Abadi said he would welcome Russian airstrikes. This week, Marine Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, showed up in Iraq to evaluate the situation and in what can only be described as a childish display, told al-Abadi that Iraq would have to choose between the US and Russia when it comes to countering ISIS. Here’s CBS (because to fully appreciate the pettiness, you have to hear it from the Western media):

The U.S. has told Iraq's leaders they must choose between ongoing American support in the battle against militants of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and asking the Russians to intervene instead.

 

Marine Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Tuesday that the Iraqis had promised they would not request any Russian airstrikes or support for the fight against ISIS.

 

Shortly after leaving Baghdad, Dunford told reporters traveling with him that he had laid out a choice when he met with Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi and Defense Minister Khaled al-Obeidi earlier Tuesday.

 

"I said it would make it very difficult for us to be able to provide the kind of support you need if the Russians were here conducting operations as well," Dunford said. "We can't conduct operations if the Russians were operating in Iraq right now."

 

He said there was "angst" in the U.S. when reports surfaced that al-Abadi had said he would welcome Russian airstrikes in Iraq. The U.S., Dunford said, "can't have a relationship right now with Russia in the context of Iraq."

 

The choice given to Abadi in Iraq by Dunford on Tuesday is a clear indication that the U.S. is not willing to compete with Russia for airspace over two neighboring countries deeply intertwined in the same convoluted war.

 

The U.S. and Russia put into practice new rules on Tuesday designed to minimize the risk of air collisions between military aircraft over Syria.

 

Reuters reports that the U.S. ultimatum to Iraq puts Abadi in a difficult position, as his own country's ruling political alliance and some powerful Shiite groups have been pushing him to request Russian air support.

 

The news agency said a proposal to request Russian strikes had been put to Abadi last week, but that he was yet to respond.

 

"Abadi told the meeting parties that it wasn't the right time to include the Russians in the fight because that would only complicate the situation with the Americans and could have undesired consequences even on long-term future relations with America," Reuters quoted a senior Shiite politician close to Abadi as saying.

In other words...

So once again, it looks as though the US is in panic mode and is willing to pull out all the stops in a desperate attempt to keep the Russians from bombing ISIS in Iraq. 

There are several theories as to why Washington is so intent on keeping Moscow out. The common sense theory that requires no conspiratorial ruminations says that the US is desperate to avoid ceding Baghdad to Russia and the Pentagon knows that with Iran already effectively in control of the army and the government, Russia would find a very receptive military and political environment in Iraq. 

For those inclined to think that in addition to any initial support (i.e. funding and training prior to the official formation of ISIS), the US is still supporting Islamic State, well then the worry for Washington is that Russia simply wipes them out. 

Whatever the case, the story is ultimately the same in Iraq as it is in Syria. The US knows that Russia is effective at decimating opposition forces and for whatever reason, Washington is not keen on being a part of it. In Iraq, that unwillingness has now manifested itself in a childish ultimatum from the Pentagon to Baghdad.

Draw your own conclusions.

 

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Thu, 10/22/2015 - 19:57 | 6700833 fudge
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Cry Havoc !!

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:01 | 6700853 wee-weed up
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Soooo... I wonder if this is sorta like Obozo's previous red-line...

Which was promptly stomped all over a long time ago with no repercussions.

What a fukin' pussy this man is...

They must be laughing their asses off over there at him.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:02 | 6700864 Payne
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YES, US out of IRAQ !!!!  Iraq would be so lucky, not going to happen.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:11 | 6700899 HowdyDoody
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The US? ... Or Russia? ... Hmmm, tricky. ... Could I have some time to think about it? Say 1 millisecond?

 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:15 | 6700916 Motasaurus
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"and take your goddamn PMCs with you"

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:07 | 6701083 Manthong
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Barry to Abadi upon on learning of Vlad..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjBBziuOni0

 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:21 | 6701131 Pure Evil
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I get it now.

The Shia take over the Middle East, or at least effectively Syria and Iraq, while all the Syrian and Iraqi Sunni move to Europe.

Way to go USA.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:29 | 6701159 johngaltfla
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Let's review the Iraqi options:

1. Choose the US and get a dickless short term leader who would let you get ass raped by a camel and a camel rapist from Saudi to keep your oil production at a minimum so they can keep buying American blonde fat titted whores and politicians from both parties.

2. Choose the Russians and make a lot of money, be hated by the "world" especially in the West and not get your ass raped.

Tough choice there.

 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:42 | 6701199 Muh Raf
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you're either with us or you're with the terrorists... oops ... er... you're either with us or you're with the tourists no... wait... er... you're either with us or you're with the republicans, can you help me out here Bibi? what's that... okay, okay, great, got it .... you're either with us or you're with the mufti .... wait, is that with hitler or with the mufti, I forget... ah bollocks I'm not paid to think .... quick where's my golf clubs before Mike gets home with his new strapon 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:42 | 6701350 MontgomeryScott
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HEY...

The U.S. MIC Shadow Government did SUCH A GOOD JOB over there in Iraq that there can be NO DOUBT that the Iraq puppet-installed government will pick TEAM # 1, USA...

By the way, Micheal/Michelle doesn't NEED a strapon. She/he's fully equipped.

Well, I guess the nations that are 'willing' to join the NEXT COATITION of the WILLING (to fight those damned Ruskies in Syria and Iraq and Iran) are fading in to the night. Bibi, though, HE's still here (and Valerie Jarrett, and Rahm Emmanuel, and Dov Zackheim, and fucking McCain; although he's not one of the Ashkenazim tribe).

EDIT:

The 'spelling fairy' app just noticed that you mis-spelled the word 'terrrorrorist'. It helps if you type in the words 'yellowcake' and 'aluminum tubes' and 'weapons of mass destruction' before typing 'terrrorrorist'. 'Anthrax letters' will get you the right spelling, as well. NUCULAR. not 'nuclear'! Fool me once, um... you won't get fooled again! Where the fuck is my Nine-iron?

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:48 | 6701380 TheReplacement
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Aint none of them you named make the decisions.  They do what the bankers will finance (unless you are the CIA and have a worldwide drug cartel for covert funding). 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:49 | 6701383 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Um, hello, "...if the Russians were operating in Iraq"? Dude Mr. Pentagon Man, maybe you noticed the drones the Russians just sent whizzing across *the entire Iraqi airspace* at 100m off the ground on their way to Syria, looks like they already are "operating" in Iraq.

US decided that flinging drone bombs all over the globe was fair play and did not constitute an act of war...and hey look there are some other guys who have drones too and want to play by those very same rules. 

I can see it now: The Chinese decide the assistant mayor of Tampa, Florida is thinking about doing a terror act sometime in the future and BAM they turn his wedding party into a red mist.

RL Stevenson said "eventually everybody sits down to a banquet of consequences".

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 23:02 | 6701423 Mr. Bones
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Why even go on the record making the offer if the choice you don't want them to make is actually feasible, or worse, better than your own offer and the attached strings that the whole planet knows it comes with?

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 03:37 | 6701766 HowdyDoody
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Because the US govt is actually now so stupid it believes its own lies, namely that Russia is The Next Hitler (TM)?

Come on, Iraq. Things have gone all the way to the wire. It's time to decide. Are you with the Good Guys (TM) .... or the US??

 

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:39 | 6702348 BarkingCat
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He is a fucking marine. They are not known for brains.
I am sure there are a few intelligent marines but all the ones I have known were on the dumb side of the intelligence scale.

Must be why they run around yelling to each other "simplify".

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:49 | 6701043 chubbar
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The question is why  can't the US work with Russia? What is it about Russia and how they operate that is so objectionable? We now "supposedly" have a common enemy. Russia has first rate hardware and warfighting capability. So, why not team up with them?

It is finally coming out that the US had much different goals over in the ME than what they have advertised all these years. It will dawn on even the dimmest lightbulb that the only possible reason the US has to object to Russia eliminating ISIS and/or lending support to Iraq is because both of those objectives are directly against what the US is trying to achieve.

Pretty fucking sad day when the realization hits that the US is the bad guy and we are really just promoting death and destruction in order to enable us to rape and pillage other countries and their resources.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:49 | 6701213 techpreist
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Why can't we work with the Russians? Look at it this way, JFK was the last president to suggest that we really could be at peace with the Russians, and look where it got him:

Lew Rockwell: Why Three Kennedys were assassinated

On a much less violent note, a certain AJ Spiker was quite possibly the first and only GOP state chairman to call for all GOP members of the state to demand their politicians oppose going to war, back in 2013 (Syria). Rumor has it that Governor Branstad himself was personally calling people in Mr Spiker's county, on behalf of GOP National, to get Mr Spiker out of office as fast as possible. Apparently Iowa would have lost first in the nation status otherwise.

I know this one mainly b/c we lived in the same small town, but there are numerous other examples of pro-peace people and whistleblowers suddenly being voted out of office, forced to resign, disappeared, psychologically tortured (Brad/Chelsea Manning), etc. once they present a credible threat to the MIC. It's hard to believe there are people this evil, but they not only exist, but when you see the full extent of the damage MIC, the banks, Big Ag, etc. are doing here and abroad, you will be brought to tears, and rage.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 04:34 | 6701803 tonyw
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Hitler explains it

https://youtu.be/17qDNQ2xYdU

 

maybe you would prefer that nice polite Mr Putin calmly explaining how it is

https://youtu.be/-KHCNk9BYy4

 

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 07:08 | 6701941 Pumpkin
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What is it about Russia and how they operate that is so objectionable?

 

Lies and deceptions must be maintained and contained.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 02:52 | 6701746 Nexus789
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Nice new embassy building  for the Russians  in Baghdad when tye US leaves.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:12 | 6700902 knukles
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I promised to bring the troops home before I left office.  And I've kept that promise.  No longer will we bear the weary misfortune and horrors, waste of precious resources and American blood on Bush's wars.  Fore!
         
-Whatever

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:39 | 6701188 Hulk
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If Obama is elected president again, I am definitely leaving the country !!!

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:56 | 6701222 knukles
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You can shack up with Barbara Streisand.  She left after W was elected.

Progressive bud of mine went and saw her some years ago in SF.  The reviews the following day said that lots of folks just got up and walked out as she started a political diatribe.  Ruined the show.
He said that it was the best part of the evening.
Somewhat incomprehensibly, we're dear friends.  Guess he was just misguided as a child.  He probably thinks the same of me.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:43 | 6702364 BarkingCat
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I cut ties with friends that were extreme lefties.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:12 | 6700905 Occident Mortal
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Christmas has come to Iraq.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:27 | 6700970 Mr. Magoo
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Only a sith deals in absolutes

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:02 | 6701260 TBT or not TBT
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And Star Wars is a childish story.  Entertaining but...turn that one around.  Jedi are then relativists without fixed principles.  

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 15:59 | 6703821 Lockesmith
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Perhaps, in issuing this absolute, Ben was tacitly implying his support for the dark side

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:00 | 6701079 Freddie
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What would anyone in their right mind want to be friends with the USA?

Putin generally just wants to do business with other countries. 

The USA/NWO/ZWO just want to destroy other countries, loot them and then force them to take out IMF loans to rebuild.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:12 | 6700909 greenskeeper carl
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I agree. I see no way how this is bad for the American taxpayer or the American soldier. Time to cut out loses and move on.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:29 | 6700980 Son of Loki
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Barry's "Legacy."

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:01 | 6701087 Freddie
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He is truly evil but the Bushes and Clintons did the same damn thing in the middle east.   Mass murder of innocent people.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:57 | 6701245 uhland62
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What they really wanted was perpetual war there for the military industrial complex and feel good about primacy, leadership etc. They did not get in to solve a problem, they got in to have another theatre of war, and when it's all looking like Dresden they look for another target. But the profits made from the destructed areas are never big enough to cover the loans - the crunchpoint will come soon because this was never sustainable.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:55 | 6701399 TheReplacement
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In other words, this is the foreign policy equivalent of Keynsian monetary policy.  Maybe all these policies are not policies at all but a common pathology expressed in varying hues. 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:30 | 6700981 Ignatius
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It's hard to imagine that Iraq will say, "Oh, please, don't leave. We want you here. Attack us again, that was fun!"

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:00 | 6701256 uhland62
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... not to forget that many Iraquis fled to Syria when the US bombs hit Iraq, just after the 2003 invasion. It couldn't have been so bad in Syria then. What changed? (rhetorical queston). 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:39 | 6701015 Blankone
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No way that huge base/city is abandoned that easy.  I smell a trap.  Russia is not prepared to take on the bombing of the insurgents in Iraq at this time.  But maybe they could still do so.  If Iraq turns to Russia then perhaps the US has prepared the stage for ISIS to rush the Iraq forces along with covert opps to conduct assasinations followed with a new puppet govt.. 

Instead of letting Russia/Iran steadily push the fight into Iraq they force the events on a time frame that to the benefit of the west/ISIS.

A cleaver response would be for Iraq to openly choose Russia, declare (for safety sakes) a no fly zone over Iraq except for Russia, Russia to finally supply the S-350/S-400 to Iran and Syria along with key placements in Iraq (if Russia can defend those placements).

The US volunteered to leave so take them up on that, just avoid the political assasinations most likely already planned.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:19 | 6701133 socalbeach
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"It's either us, or the Russians" sounds like the PR version of what was really said:

U.S. Tells Iraq: If You Ally w. Russia Against ISIS, You’re Our Enemy

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:22 | 6701138 Flagit
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So, the US it threatening to stop fucking up their country?

The inmates have long left the asylum.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:30 | 6700982 Perimetr
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Mission F*kcing Accomplished!!

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:28 | 6701156 The central planners
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Remember when Putin warned the US about funding terrorism that it migh have blow back to them? Well this is what he was reffering to. Now it using the same excuse to muscle out US.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:44 | 6701364 TheReplacement
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Would you rather he had a backbone and started a war with Russia?  We have enough trouble with his policies in this country.  We don't need any more real shooting wars with outsiders.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 04:07 | 6701787 Macon Richardson
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Why do you presume that Obozo has any say at all in whatever decisions are made. Please pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. He's Obozo, great Oz.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:15 | 6700918 freewolf7
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"We'll take the Russians."

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:26 | 6700965 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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...and let slip the sniveling bastards of WOAR!!

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:00 | 6701251 sumo
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Speaking of which, we need John McCain to get over there pronto and do what he does best ... crash planes and confuse Sunni with Shia.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:58 | 6701408 The Dogs of Moar
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.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 23:01 | 6701418 The Dogs of Moar
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There's trickery afoot.

I better let the Kremlin know.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 06:29 | 6701879 doctor10
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sooo...basically in the last 12 months Obama has manged to blow out a decade of investment of American's lives, their military, world prestige and about 5 trillion dollars of her treasure.

either he has put the lie to America's middle east interests or his and his team's (including that sad former Sec State trying to defend her actions in front of that committee yesterday) incompetence transcends imagination

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 19:56 | 6700836 I am Jobe
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So what will happen the Yellow ribbon sales and the inbred fucks in USA chanting Support the Troops? 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:04 | 6700861 fudge
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Not USA but Jerusalem ;) they now see the Yinon plan failing before their eyes,,they will not let go without a fight.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:14 | 6700915 HowdyDoody
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They have started the plan to finish the ethnic cleansing of Jerusalem. Then they will spring a Samson Option - demolition of the al Aqsa mosque to allow the ziocrazies to build their temple. That should trigger off a full shit storm in the ME.

 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:27 | 6701152 Flagit
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I know a guy that rubbed the words off of one of those ribbon magnets and wrote " Support Chinese Magnet Companies" in its place.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:57 | 6701405 MontgomeryScott
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That guy is a COMMIE!

I am hoping that Sean hannity has Ann Coulter back on REAL SOON.

Did you know that eating bananas exposes you to more radiation than standing in the Fukushima DaiIchi #4 reactor room?

USA! USA! USA! USA!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX5ZRE26YWM

America! FUCK YEAH!

(This message brought to you by General Electric; the designer of the Mk. 1 nuclear reactor)

Fucking commies... NEVER rub the lead-painted words off of RIBBON MAGNETS! Your small children might LICK YOUR FINGERS! That's it... I'm calling the EPA on you...

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 19:57 | 6700840 SILVERGEDDON
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Oh, fuck yeah, like that's gonna work. Fucktard in Chief.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:22 | 6701137 Freddie
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The USSA is a joke.  It is not like The Pentagram is any better than Obola, McCain or their boss Soros.

Bushes and Clintons are just as bad as they are all the same See Eye Aye people.

 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 19:58 | 6700849 Keyser
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Buh Bye USSA... After the US invaded Iraq, killed their leader, destoryed their economy, destoryed their infrastructure, killed 1,000,000+ citizens and maimed another 1,000,000+, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out... 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:00 | 6700855 Ms No
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What was it a half a million dead from the Iraq war with a large part being children?  I am pretty sure that would be an easy choice for Iraq to make, except for the satanic bastards that helped a foreign nation mass murder their own people and turn their country into a pile of shit.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:11 | 6700898 Chupacabra-322
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"I'd say it was worth it."

-Pure Evil War Criminal Psychopath Madeline Albright

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:11 | 6700900 TheFutureIsThePast
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500,000 kids. The Fed was pretty proud of it, I'm sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:51 | 6701216 o r c k
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Where there's life there's fear. They'd pay a heavy price for not dancing with Obombyou.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:00 | 6700856 williambanzai7
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OBOZO SHOW

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:03 | 6700870 fudge
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howdy doody WB7 :D :D :D

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:12 | 6700908 Keyser
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Not Howdy Doody...  That is Bozo the Clown, with the obvious Obozo face implant...  

 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:27 | 6700973 Billy the Poet
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GEORGE: Bozo?

ERIC: No.

GEORGE: B-O-Z-O?

ERIC: Sorry, I...

GEORGE: You've never heard of Bozo the Clown?

ERIC: No!

GEORGE: How could you not know who Bozo the Clown is?

ERIC: I don't know, I just don't.

GEORGE: How can you call yourself a clown and not know who Bozo is?

ERIC: Hey, man - what are you hassling me for? This is just a gig, it's not my life. I don't know who Bozo is, what - is he a clown?

GEORGE: Is he a clown? What, are you kidding me!?

ERIC: Well, what is he?

GEORGE: Yes, he's a clown!

ERIC: Alright, so what's the big deal! There's millions of clowns!

GEORGE: Alright, just forget it.

ERIC: Me forget it? You should forget it! You're livin' in the past, man! You're hung up on some clown from the sixties, man!

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:31 | 6701164 Freddie
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRLPW8RlUvE

Bozo the Clown.  I get too much of a John Wayne Gacy video off Bozo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx5-tn00-PY

Arkansas Bozo.    Apparently, Bozo was a franchise for TV stations nationwide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSdV12FhNR0

Crusty the Clown.

 

 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:11 | 6700897 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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That kinda looks like Pennywise.  Thanks alot, now I'm gonna have nightmares!!

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:29 | 6700979 Billy the Poet
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Looks a lot like Poundfoolish.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:41 | 6701020 Baby Bladeface
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Clown you deliver a stunning tantrum.

"A petulant frenzy!
 This is a petulant Frenzy!
 I'm petulant,
 And I'm having a frenzy!"

All this is reminiscent of schizophrenia...

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:45 | 6701030 lakecity55
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We are not doing anything but dicking around and supporting the wrong team.

Good. Get the fuck out.

The Russians will come in and wipe the place up, the Iraqis will have peace.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:35 | 6701340 bid the soldier...
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I'm sure everyone here remembers the funeral of Chuckles the Clown on the Mary Tyler Moore Show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92I04DkMEps

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 23:07 | 6701434 MontgomeryScott
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A definite +1 for the Norman Rockwell reference!

Have you ever heard of Steven King? He wrote a book about a clown named 'Pennywise'. IT was entitled, simply, 'IT'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuLkQMQBZA4

 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:02 | 6700867 RopeADope
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Let me fix that for the Joint Chief of Clowns...

"US Issues Childish Ultimatum To the City of Baghdad, F.K.A. the Nation of Iraq"

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:05 | 6700880 Oldballplayer
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Today? Given that choice I would offer a nice war water port between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:14 | 6700914 Keyser
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Moving the US Navy out of Qatar would be the icing on the cake, either peacefully or by force... 

No bout a doubt it, a Sunni-Shia proxy war is coming in the ME... Watch for the US to get their ass handed to them, again... 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:08 | 6700888 cigarEngineer
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You will notice an interesting truth: the only people who issue ultimatums are those persons who have lost control.

Think about it.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:31 | 6700986 Billy the Poet
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If you make me think about it then this relationship is over. Over!

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:37 | 6701006 Bastiat
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Reminds me of an old skit on SNL where they says:  "Oh her?  I had to dump her.  She moved in with another guy.  That's where I draw the line!"

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:09 | 6700892 alfbell
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Yup. That is exactly what we have in the USA comprising our government. People with childish mentalities.

The USA being pushed out of the ME, and unable to continue their psychotic interventions there, is just one of the many milestones on the road of the USA empire's slow death.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:23 | 6700946 Bill of Rights
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Problem is, what they don't continue there they continue here.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 04:23 | 6701798 Lurk Skywatcher
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People with childish mentalities... and nuclear-fucking-weapons!

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:09 | 6700893 Able Ape
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"And one MORE thing, our NeoClowns have been waiting 12 goddamn years for flowers and candy - you better FedEx them Next Day Air before Noon or I'm going to be pissed..."

Yours Truly,

Barry and the Boys...

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:16 | 6700924 Caleb Abell
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The Iraqis already sent the Neocons flowers.  It turns out that the arabic word "flower" translates as "rocket propelled grenade."

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:35 | 6700997 Billy the Poet
Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:12 | 6700903 Cabreado
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This is the endgame, the destination, of the rise of the Self-Absorbed -- the Narcissist and Sociopath -- to a critical mass of places of influence and control.

Simple, eh?

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:12 | 6700904 Sanity Bear
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If effectiveness were the issue it would be an easy call for the Iraqis to make, but the obscene amounts of money that the US govt pours into that Mideast toilet is probably the dominant factor in the decision.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:12 | 6700907 Duc888
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If it wasn't so utterly tragic and sad, it might be comical.

 

Gee, we bomb the fucking shit out of your country for 20+ years, completely destroy the infrastructure and kill a few hundred thousand of you...and now you have a choice?

 

It reminds me of this place....

http://failblog.cheezburger.com/thereifixedit

 

 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:56 | 6701240 o r c k
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So the US says to Iraq:  Why did you make me hit you ??

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:14 | 6700917 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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Eye-Rack needs tuh learn ya leave the dance with the one which brung ya.  Even though during the dance they killed your family

burned down your house and kicked you in the crotch.  They'll learn or we'll free the shit out of 'em.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:58 | 6701248 o r c k
o r c k's picture

Right, and again-- Don't make me hit you!

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 01:06 | 6701658 undertow1141
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The beatings will continue until moral improves, by God.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:17 | 6700926 Youri Carma
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The problem is that the U.S. did nothing to keep what once was Iraq and the same goes with Libya. So the Iraqi government must be very frustrated about that seeing the country falling apart. But that’s exactly what the U.S. wants, ‘divide and conquer’ the countries into different sectarians which on itself are helpless and in constant chaos. The permanent U.S. war creation feeds on taxpayers with it’s dollar hungry mighty military complex. Not good for relations and other businesses, not good for global economical growth so not good for America.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:17 | 6700928 Singelguy
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When you issue an ultimatum, you usually get the answer you DON'T want!

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 03:48 | 6701773 HowdyDoody
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Dear USG,

We acknowledge your letter of 21st October referring to the USG in Iraq.

We note that the USG's attitude to damages will be governed by the nature of our reply and would therefore be grateful if you would inform us what its attitude to damages would be, were it to learn that the nature of our reply is as follows: fuck off.

Yours,

The Iraqi Govt

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:25 | 6700931 honestann
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Very simple.  Iraq should tell the USSA, "you invaded Iraq on false pretenses, then killed over 1-million people here.  We don't need any more of your kind of help.  Leave".

Besides... you're outta money, fools!

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 03:48 | 6701774 HowdyDoody
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One word extra - reparations.

 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:20 | 6700940 Bill of Rights
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More proof, liberals are retards.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 03:49 | 6701775 HowdyDoody
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Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Obozo etc are liberals? Whodathunk?

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:21 | 6700941 Usurious
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ON SEPTEMBER 11 1941, the American hero, Charles Lindbergh, gave his famous Speech which urged Americans to remain against American intervention of the European war:

“The Jews are one of the principal forces attempting to lead the U.S. into the war. The Jews’ greatest danger to this country lies in their large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio, and our Government. I am saying that the leaders of the Jewish race wish to involve us in the war for reasons that are not American.” Here

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=40

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:35 | 6701176 Flagit
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The passing of the torch for jewz-bashing has seen a rocky road.

So we went from Ford, to Lindbergh....to Gibson?

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 03:55 | 6701779 HowdyDoody
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No one has to bash them anymore. With a leader like Nuttyahu, (King of all the Jews), the Chosenites seem to have adopted self-flaggellation as a valid strategy.

Netanyahu: Hitler wasn't so bad. Sure he wasn't exactly for the Jews. But it took the Grand Mufti to convince him that all the Jews should be exterminated.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.681525

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:24 | 6700951 PoasterToaster
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This is what it sounds like when victimizers are cornered.  They beg the victims for permission to continue.

US Federal Government is the enemy of the world.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:25 | 6700957 Kirk2NCC1701
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This week in pictures -- the Crimea River edition

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:26 | 6700959 ILikeBoats
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It's Kabuki theater... Putin is in on it.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:27 | 6700969 Dan'l
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Based on Obanghole's performance, that makes the decision easy, Bye-Bye USA. As much as I dislike Putin, he's a genius next to our boy wonder. Who has failed at everything he's every attempted? Where are his grades,? Why does he have a fake birth certificate? Why doesn't anyone remember him at Harvard? Why, as the Editor of the Law Review at Harvard didn't he ever write anything? Why does he have a body man, named Reggie Love? Why is he so delusional about everything? Why does he keep making an ass out of himself on the world stage, but thinks he's a genius? 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:27 | 6700972 buzzsaw99
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all that depleted uranium and white phosphorus and this is the thanks we get?

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:28 | 6700975 Tracerfan
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Eventually, Iraq will choose Russia.  It is the only logical choice.  And US will increase aid to ISIS.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:30 | 6700983 Sturm und Drang
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Firesign Theater.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:31 | 6700987 indaknow
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The US is fucking fucked, the US was fucking fucked before Russia entered Syria and the US is even more fucking fucked now. What a fucking embarrassement The US has become.....arming and funding the same boogeyman they've been proclaiming as terrorists since 9-11!

Wake the fuck up America. Your Country has been stolen from you!

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:54 | 6700989 Crocodile
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"America is literally trying to say that if you’re a Sunni extremist, you’re a friend if you’re in Syria but an enemy in Iraq and if you’re a Shiite militia, you’re a friend in Iraq but an enemy in Syria"

It is called "psychopathic-hypocrisy-syndrome" or PHS.  Symptoms include pissing off your friends, murdering innocent people, helping your enemies to piss off said friends and murder said innocents & thrown a temper tantrum(s).  The only cure is death or a total change in ones nature, which can only be achieved by a supernatural act of God.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:22 | 6701313 Wahooo
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Does it also include getting your fudge packed nightly by your tranny wife and his boyfriend?

Yep, he's a psycho.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 01:09 | 6701663 undertow1141
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Doublethink noun  
  1. the acceptance of or mental capacity to accept contrary opinions or beliefs at the same time, especially as a result of political indoctrination.
Fri, 10/23/2015 - 04:52 | 6701818 StychoKiller
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[quote]The only cure is death or a total change in ones nature, which can only be achieved by a supernatural act of God. [/quote]

Well then, get to prayin'.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:37 | 6701007 nah
nah's picture

Citizens of Iraq

.

Choose your bombs wisely

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:37 | 6701009 Youri Carma
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Bottoms Up Line: What will the Iraqi government do when ISIS flees into Iraq under U.S. air cover?

Turkey is also aiding ISIS with could turn out to be a huge mistake https://youtu.be/2LCggmsCXk4?t=2m18s

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:16 | 6701301 bid the soldier...
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isis and the fsa retreating into iraq.  

if the us coalition doesn't do anything about it, they will have to leave iraq and be replaced by russia.  

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:39 | 6701014 css1971
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Why hasn't anyone in the State Department been fired yet?

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:39 | 6701016 Bastiat
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The US will never be right again until the war criminals are prosecuted for morally and financially bankrupting the country.  John Yoo, you little piece of shit, you are included.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:44 | 6701026 agent default
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The US will never be right again until the free shit army is denied the right to vote.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:44 | 6701028 johnlocke445
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If Iraq was smart they would choose Russia.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:47 | 6701038 dumbStruck
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If only it were so easy to get rid of the Americans as welcoming the Russians!  I suspect not. Once the Americans have bases they tend to never leave a country. I just can't see the U.S. leaving without a fight. Whoever the next chicken hawk in the white house is will want to show how tough they are with other peoples lives. If the U.S. is still based in Bagdad when the golfer in chief leaves office I'll be looking for some action of some sort somewhere to expand the U.S. footprint and try to push out the russians and perhaps their Iranian friends.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 04:54 | 6701820 StychoKiller
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How many Spratly bases will China create in the meantime?

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:54 | 6701057 CHoward
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Iraq - NOW - that's ONE country we should NEVER, EVER have been in the first place - NEVER!  EVERY solider - man and woman - who died in Iraq did die in vain.  That pains me so much to even think that but I do.

 

The arrogance and hubris of the U.S. government is utterly stunning.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:14 | 6701118 yogibear
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Saddam stabilized Iraq by being a hardliner.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:58 | 6701246 Cabreado
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On day Four of the "Iraq War," I arrived home to find my neighbor's flag flying half staff.

His son was killed that day.

That's as close as I ever got to it, that war... and I will never forget it.

 

 

 

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 00:36 | 6701608 Archive_file
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My grandpa was a WWII officer and veteran. Fought a war against fascism. Good thing he's dead because his country is a fascist state.

Ash Carter can suck my dick too.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:09 | 6701278 o r c k
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Especially at my age, It's breathtaking that these crimes against humanity carried out by 2 Presidents, are not even a subject of discussion. The only answer is fear. And a very real fear at that.

Where does it all lead ?   DUCK AND COVER !!

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 20:56 | 6701068 Solomonpal
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Give it to Hitlary to spin. Everything is under control. I mean didn't we see her at the Bengazi hearings?

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:05 | 6701085 bluez
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Yeah, go with the U.S.A.! We are the Saints of Bankruptcy!

New York City's fiscal crisis came to a head in April-May of 1975, just exactly when the Vietnam War ended with the Fall of Saigon. The City simply could not pay its bills. War costs serious money, and this manifests in many ways.

The U.S. project of turning the Middle East into a giant hellhole is presumably costing over a trillion U.S. dollars. So today Zero Hedge reports:

/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-14/illinois-delay-pension-payments...

Illinois To Delay Pension Payments Amid Budget Woes: "For All Intents And Purposes, We Are Out Of Money Now.
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Something is wrong with this country. This MIC thing is nuts. Also, we have to support the endless wars of Israel (but they do have socialized medicine):

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http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html

Economist tallies swelling cost of Israel to US

By David R. Francis, Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor December 9, 2002

Since 1973, Israel has cost the United States about $1.6 trillion. If divided by today's population, that is more than $5,700 per person.

This is an estimate by Thomas Stauffer, a consulting economist in Washington.
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Our cities are falling apart and crime is now on the increase. In effect we are now back in Vietnam.

Another Vietnam parallel:

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https://www.rt.com/news/318615-syria-usa-results-lavrov/

Lavrov: Unclear what exactly US is doing in Syria & why results so insignificant

14 Oct, 2015

The Russian Foreign Ministry has questioned the effectiveness of the US-led year-long air campaign in Syria, saying it’s unclear “why the results of so many combat sorties are so insignificant.” Failing to curb ISIS, the US has now “adjusted” its program.

“We have very few specifics which could explain what the US is exactly doing in Syria and why the results of so many combat sorties are so insignificant,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told Russian channel NTV. “With, as far as I know, 25,000 sorties they [US-led air campaign] could have smashed the entire [country of] Syria into smithereens,” the minister noted.
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I call this _opulopathy_. This is clearly a mental disorder that afflicts individuals who control vast amounts of money. Perhaps these people need to go somewhere for the sake of protecting themselves and others.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:04 | 6701094 SgtShaftoe
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Well, with the giant NSA data center in NV, it will be very easy to find the criminal root cause and prosecute it to the fullest extent of the new laws prior to demolishing the data center and the rest of the MIC. 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 23:23 | 6701478 IronForge
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Don't forget the Web Repository in Salt Lake City.

The Cult Stalkers will be knocking at your door pretty soon. 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:12 | 6701112 yogibear
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A tough one...

US - instability, military contractors always looking for job security through more instability. US helped foster ISIS.

Russia - Stability, ISIS destroyed,

 

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:12 | 6701114 Sokhmate
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Infantilitis Syndrome

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:56 | 6701402 Albertarocks
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Exactly.  On the eve of the needless Iraq war Bush told the world "either you're with us or you're with the tourists" (he meant terrorists).  And that 'ultimatum' was directed at Canada too... far from an enemy of the US.  In fact, Canada is probably the only country who the US could call a friend at all.

But given an arrogant ultimatum like that, Canada very politely told Bush "fuck you friend", and we did not support the war in Iraq.  Ask politely... and maybe.  Everybody who has even the slightest understanding of psychology, or even human dignity for that matter, knows that when given an ultimatum, even the most timid will usually rebel against the threat.  It seems only the totally inept and embarrassing US administration is unaware of this fact.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:16 | 6701126 HoserF16
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Take the Russians. They'll get the Job Done and Leave. US foriegn policy is like a Cancer...

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:21 | 6701135 swmnguy
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I've always lived by the rule that if anyone gives you an ultimatum, get used to the idea of "Or Else."  The other party either intends the "Or Else," or they're trying to manipulate you by bluffing.  Either way, "Or Else" is what you should be preparing for, whether you have to deal with it sooner or later.  And, either way, you don't want to keep dealing with anyone who gives ultimatums.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 22:16 | 6701300 o r c k
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"If you don't stop making me hit you I'm going to leave you forever"!

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:45 | 6701204 shovelhead
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We used to fight our mom over who was going to babysit us too.

We liked the teen girl who let us do anything as long as we didn't bother her and her boyfriend instead of the old lady who used to yell at us all night.

Obama wants to be the cranky old bitch.

Thu, 10/22/2015 - 21:57 | 6701225 SSRI Junkie
Thu, 10/22/2015 - 23:31 | 6701496 main1event
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Oh look we have a choice of Prison Guards. 

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 00:37 | 6701561 FedFunnyMoney
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Since they are giving the ultimatum to the Arab Shia government in Baghdad, it will be the Russians instead of us. The Shia government in Baghdad gets all its marching orders from Tehran. This idiotic ultimatum was issued in order to make us look good to the Saudis and Qataris. More sucking up to Riyadh, basically.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 02:07 | 6701611 FIAT CON
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Here we go the US is trying to make themselves exceptional again...

 Soon they can welcome that no one wants to talk or do any business with them... their dollar will be asswipe and they will be isolated in the world...And everyone thought that Ron Paul was an Isolationalist.

The arrogance of the US.gov gets louder every day.

They will be beaten, broke and lonely crying to themselves wondering why no one wants to be their friend.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 00:41 | 6701613 onmail1
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How soon...

Very soon

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And it will be so funny

to see Iraq going to Russia & Iran as their ally 

Becuz America is not interested in eliminating terrorism

(psst ... actually it promotes)

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 00:48 | 6701627 Moribundus
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Western Media Mum as Iraq And 4+1 Inflict Huge ISIS Defeat The operation proceed under advice from Russia and Iran. The U.S. was not involved. It is no wonder then that “western” media are mostly silent about it

 

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/western-media-mum-iraq-and-41-infl...

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 01:24 | 6701686 king leon
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"Let me think about that, NOW FUCK OFF!!!!!"

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 02:01 | 6701709 spyware-free
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Sounds like Iraq has already chosen the Russians;
https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/usa-out-irak/

That would complete the biggest geopolitical shift since NATO took over former Soviet Bloc countries in Eastern Europe. Who's isolated now Obama?

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 02:43 | 6701740 Free_Spirit
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Just proves the US weren't bombing ISIS to destroy them, but just to make sure they kept killing the "right" people. If Iraq joins as looks very likely given Iranian influence, the stage is set for a major redrawing of borders between Iran, Syria and Iraq, the role of the Kurds will be interesting - if VP can get the Kurds on board with assurance for their own autonomous area they'll fight for him tooth and nail. Turkey wwill throw a hissy-fit, and Murderer McCain will probably spontaneously combust but there'll be little they can do about it. A few clear "get the fuck out" messages to Qatar and those dirty little playboy princes will cut their losses and scamper off back to their perverted palaces.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 06:54 | 6701919 Dorothea Binz
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Russian airstrikes prove they don't care about going after ISIS either.  So far, 90% of their strikes were at non-ISIS targets. 

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 02:48 | 6701743 dogismycopilot
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The yanks are bluffing. They know if they pull out so will Exxon and Shell. Only Lukoil, Gazprom and Petro China will stay and then all that precious oil will be gone.

The Yanks must stay no matter what they say. Al Abadi needs to grow a set of balls. Only Russia will save him. Otherwise he is out by next year.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 06:52 | 6701916 Dorothea Binz
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Shell is a Dutch company. Why should the US give a shit about Shell?

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