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What you gonna do when the bombs start to fall?
It's a near miracle that nuclear war has so far been avoided.
-Noam Chomsky
Let's imagine for a few minutes that the ongoing-global-currency war and proxy wars somehow, unexpectedly, blow up into a world war directly involving you, wherever it is that you live. Specifically, imagine that one side is able to achieve surprise, and as you sit at your desk, today, the power and all telecommunications go out without warning. Within 15 minutes, everyone notices a large amount of what is obviously military aircraft activity, evidenced by sonic booms, and soon there are several very bright flashes on the horizon in the direction of the closest military base.
The odds of this actually happening are not zero.
You may very well survive a nuclear war. Did you know that there have been over 500 above-ground detonations of nuclear weapons.
As an exercise, please consider the following questions:
How do you think most others around you would react?
Do you already have a plan that you would implement for this type of scenario?
What immediate action(s) would you take?
What are the three most likely perils you might face?
What is the thing you could do, now, to most improve your chance of surviving each of these three perils?
Here are my responses.
How do you think most others around you would react? I believe the amount of panic in any major American city, like mine, would be absolutely hellacious, literally, and streets would become impassable to cars almost immediately. Many people would either become catatonic with disbelief, die of a heart attack, or quickly progress from fear to the emotion that most know best, anger. People would resort to any and all measures to try to get out of the cities.
Do you already have a plan that you would implement for this type of scenario? Yes.
What immediate action(s) would you take? I would ride a motorcycle (very quickly) on train tracks, or other previously reconnoitered route, to one of several pre-planned rally points that have a bomb and fallout shelter.
What are the three most likely perils you might face? 1) Nuclear weapon blast or fallout 2) Lack of drinking water 3) Starvation
What is the thing you could do, now, to most improve your chance of surviving each of these three perils? 1) Remember the excellent information in this goofy dude's videos. 2) Have water stored at shelter 3) Have food stored at shelter.
Do you even know where to find a fallout shelter? How quickly can you get to one? Will you be able to get in?
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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naa, that's too good for them. I'd rather have them exposed to the fallout and have to suffer for a few weeks before croaking.
"When the bombs explode, what will you do?"
Thanks mate, no one on the doomer side of the internet ever thought about shelters and storing food and nukes. This is the kind of article that makes a difference.
Of course it's true that there must be a shitload of info on shelters, etc. on the doomer side of the internet, BUT its important to remind people, even very awake people to DO something. Thanks to the author for the suggestions. And I agree - Hellacious is right!
Im doing everything i can already, against the clock. I wont be building a shelter in my apartment complex, that is for sure.
Hopefully you've identified all the MILFs in the the complex though.
I agree that this isn't news, but that is no reason for you to be a dick.
I don't know anybody that wouldn't learn something from watching, "...this goofy dude's videos."
I would be very surprised if 5% of the readers, here, even know of an operational fallout shelter that they can access nearby, or have discussed and/or made plans to go there with their loved ones, unless of course they are a high-level government worker.
What do you think are the chances of world war in the next 10 years? What is the most likely peril you think you would face if/when war comes to your home? Have you done anything to mitigate the risk?
In the US there are not many operational shelters left, thanks to MAD. You need to identify "potential" fallout shelters. Older public buildings and schools are your best bet. Very few of these places are set up for any kind of long-term survival beyond a few days though...little or no stocks of food, water or medical supplies. Point is, if you are not one of those "high level government workers" you have very few options available to you.
But I think your piece hits on something most people haven't really thought about these days. Everybody that preps is prepping for an economic crash, civil unrest, pandemics, martial law, EMPs, etc, but nobody is really planning for the short-term realities of a nuclear first strike on a scale beyond a couple of nukes launched by some terrorist group, Iran, North Korea, etc. All the preps in the world do you no good if you can't get to them...or end up exposed to lethal levels of radiation in the process of trying to get to them.
...except for governments that spend ma$$ive amounts on government continuity, but little or nothing to ensure continuity of the governed.
yepper, when it comes to prepping, we're all pikers compared to uncle sugar.
I live in Israel and every building has a bomb shelter. These are just big basements without any filters nor supplies. Think of the subway in WW2 London.
I rent an apartment, all i can do is to keep a big bag of rice and 100 liters of water tucked on the side. It should cover me against short term supply disruptions (akin to Katrina).
I can think of a dozen better qualified sources than Noam Chimpski- as he as been famously dissed- for info on nuclear war issues. Note that with over 500 surface explosion, we're still here. My favorite source is Nevil Shute's 1957 novel. Herman Kahn was another thinker altogether re: nuclear war. Noam wanders off in the weeds when he gets off his academic specialty, linguistics of a sort.
On the Beach Good book!
A sub-stratospheric nuclear detonation causing a wide-scale EMP is probably the most likely tactic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_nuclear_explosion
Most likely "A" tactic. One is none and two is one...and no military plan depends on one single tactic. EMP will most likely be followed by actual strikes at strategic targets...enough to (hopefully) ensure no second strike capability.
90% of the population would be dead in less than 6 months. If anybody manages to show up in my area I will assume they are the toughest ones left and have evil intent for me, my family, and neighbors. So I will shoot them.
You are misinformed about your chances of surviving a US-Russian nuclear war.
see http://www.nucleardarkness.org/warconsequences/hundredfiftytonessmoke/
and
Nuclear War, Nuclear Winter, and Human Extinction, published by the Federation of American Scientists
https://fas.org/pir-pubs/nuclear-war-nuclear-winter-and-human-extinction/
Extinction is just another step in evolution.
Have you read One Second After?
Do you keep a Get Back Home Bag in the car, or at work?
The Borrowed World series by Franklin Horton has an awesome treking home story. Convinced me to carry a Get Home Bag.
Dup. I didn't do it. Sorry.
Yes, I do. A foldable bike also.
The foldable bikes are pretty awesome, as are the new slime tires. A two-day 50-mile trek can be cut to a half-day ride.
Hi Horse,
Yes, I have read One Second After, and yes I have bug-out-bags in both family vehicles. Wife gives me grief over the bags-o'-crap in the trunk but I do not yield on the subject. Live in San Diego a high value ICBM target, big time. Plan for the worst (ICBM incineration, radiation, yadda yadda...) and hope for the best.
Long time viewer, new poster to ZH. Best to all. HEDGE, it's a good thing.
Don't know about the heat where you are but in Texas, the summer sun will destroy your bag in about 2 seasons.
Rotate your survival stock.
These last many years, even in the Texas heat...
http://www.datrex.com/index/catalogdetail/pdt_id/43
http://www.datrex.com/index/catalogdetail/pdt_id/1017
Lifestraw or similar product is a must have. Cheap too. I think I got a Lifestraw on Amazon for $20 and really nice Sawyer set up that is similar to Lifestraw but came with a pump and water bag for something like $25 or so.
I live 20 miles from a base. No need to worry, it will be fast.
tick tock boom
When the oxygen masks drop, I’m punching the back of the heads on the people in front of me.
Grab a kick ass bottle of wine, kiss my wife, hug my kids and enjoy the end! I personally have no desire to spend the rest of my life living underground eating MREs, surrounded by the average meriKan mush head. Not to mention, living in the flight path of Luke, AFB the end would probably come fairly quickly!
END THE FED!
Meh, head out to the Fortunas, find Pancho Villa's stash and go out like a bandito!
As my brother says, Run towards it not away
Don't drink the milk after a nuclear exchange. Cows concentrate the radiological particles from grass. I would think well water should be fine (hand pumped). It takes years for most water to reach the aquifer.
Strontium 90 is on the same line of the periodic chart as calcium. You should aso keep some iodine around to keep you thyroid saturated for months to ward off iodine 131 with a half-life of 8 days.
You shouldn't drink cows milk anyway, that shit is nasty.
Well if what you consider milk is that sterilized bullshit in the store mixed together from a million other cows producing watered down bullshit, I'd agree. I have 2 Jerseys though. Jerseys and Gurnseys have the higest milk solids of any other cow. Holsteins are the most watered down i.e. commercial cows. Jerseys make milk, and it's awesome!!!
No love for cheese?
Study reveals cheese is as addictive as drugs -
http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-cheese-addictive-drugs-20151...
especially government cheese
No size restrictions, and screw the limits.
I'm gonna become a Mormon so I have enough wives to cook, clean, keep me entertained, and leave me in peace while they fight with each other.
Well, it is a good plan, but my wife would kill me if I followed through.
As long as I am alive, I will enjoy living, and continue to learn skills that keep me alive.
Be well, be safe, be healthy, be a boy scout.
Mormons are practical and smart. I am not one, but have known many and they have my respect.
I live among Mormons. They're VERY tribal, self righteous, arrogant and petty. Their whole be prepared schtick is followed by VERY few. They had my respect at first, but after living among them for a decade, not so much.
Not to mention the vast majority of Morons (did I spell that right) cant drive to save their damn lives. The idiots in Mormon land ACTIVELY try to keep you behind them while they go 35 in a 50.
Their holy underwear is radiation retardend.
I'm gonna become a Mormon so I have enough wives
This could last a while so Brigham Young.
This is why you da poet!
An old friend used to say: "I'm gonna mix up a tall tin and tonic, sit out on my back deck and shoot my neighbors dog."
WOLVERINES!!!
j/k. I live in DFW. There'd be no way to get outta dodge before it was too late, nor likely, would there be any point in doing so.
If the water and air where you are isn't poisoned, it might be better in the long run. Everyone seems to think that it will back to the cave, but with portable and micro technologies that currently exist you can maintain a high standard of living without this giant creaking infrastructure that is falling apart anyway. There will be new ways of doing things, and community will regain its former meaning instead of the current definition which is as a proxy for whatever fake interest group the oligarchs are pushing.
The aristocrats will be utterly annihilated, both in their capacity to cause further immediate harm, and in the future. The war would bring the final discreditation of the concept of elites, as nuclear war would prove once and for all that humanity suffers when small groups control the majority. This lesson would carry forward through future history.
The chains of slavery would be broken, never to reforge. The promise of America would finally be fulfilled; that no man need serve another. This is the American Dream, to collect the fruits of your own labor and to make your own fortune, free from the grasping tendrils of the elite in the Old World, who felt entitled to the last crumb of the least peasant. The American Dream was never about paying a mortgage or having a secure "job" that pays you barely enough to get by while living in fear of being put out on the crumbling streets.
Regardless of what happens in the future the lessons learned would carry through, as the lessons of Rome have made it to the present day. There is no going back, what has been done is done. There is only the future now.