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The GOP's Nightmare Is Coming True: With Jeb Out Of Cash, Insiders Say Trump Nomination Almost Certain
Three months ago we revealed what was the GOP's biggest nightmare: Donald Trump dominating the polls, which he did from the first days in the GOP presidential primary.
Since then, Trump's ascent has only gotten steeper, forcing one after another political "expert", talking head and pundit (it is unclear if the Huffington Post still covers Trump in its Entertainment section) to throw in the towel, and admit they have no idea how to read the American public.
Things only got worse for the GOP faithful when it was revealed that the man who was considered a frontrunner for the primary post, Jeb Bush, now appears to have run out of money. Earlier today Politico reported that Jeb Bush ordered across-the-board pay cuts to his struggling presidential campaign and warned staff that job functions would change.
On a Friday conference call, top officials said resources would shift heavily to ballot access and voter contact. One person on the Friday morning staff call said they were left with the impression that "very few people will be left in Miami." Although campaign officials insisted they're still in strong shape, the moves — combined with Bush's stagnant poll numbers, despite millions having been spent by his Right to Rise super PAC on television ads over the last month — suggest otherwise.
The reason for what may be a surprising and premature end to Jeb's campaign: his fundraisers have given up. According to the WSJ reports, "the family’s vaunted financial network is mostly disengaged and splintered—and his campaign stock is falling."
The one-time front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination is roughly tied for third place among GOP contenders in campaign cash and has fallen to fourth or fifth place in national polls, including the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News survey. His crowds are modest. He failed to dominate in either of the GOP debates, and million-dollar ad buys in Iowa and New Hampshire have barely moved the needle on his support in the early-contest states.
“Jeb’s just blended into the second tier of the Republican pack,” said Doug Corn, an Ohio-based financial adviser and top fundraiser for George W. Bush who hasn’t donated to a candidate this year. “When you run for president, you have to be very charismatic, you have to articulate extremely well and you have to show unbelievable amounts of passion.”
But while Jeb may be lacking in charisma, there is one candidates who oozes it.
And with Trump seemingly able to absorb any and everything the media will throw at him, and actually thrives on it, and his teflon popularity rising week after week, not only have the naysayers given up, but far more importantly, the odds that Donald Trump wins the Republican presidential nomination are going up. Actually, make that soaring.
According to Politico, 81% of Republican insiders say the likelihood that Trump becomes their party’s nominee is more today than it was a month ago, and 79 percent of Democrats said the same. That’s according to the Politico caucus - a weekly bipartisan survey of top strategists, operatives and activists in the early-voting states of Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada.
Some, such as this bitter, livid Iowa Republican, appear to have moved on beyond the anger and bargaining stage, and reached acceptance. "I can't even describe the lunacy of him as our nominee. But reason has not applied to date in this race, and my hopes are fleeting that it will ever surface." Lamented the Iowa Republican, who like all participants was granted anonymity in order to speak freely. If he thinks reason died in the race, he should come see what is going on in the so-called "markets"...
Others pile on:
"Predictions of his demise keep not coming true,” said a New Hampshire Republican.
"Donald Trump being the GOP nominee is now within the realm of possibility," asserted a South Carolina Republican.
“Maybe, just maybe, Trump wins an early contest or two. That will trigger a much stronger Stop Trump movement,” a New Hampshire Republican said. “The party will nominate Bob Dole — in 2016 —before it will nominate Trump. And a Trump nomination would result in a third candidate emerging.”
“The summer of Trump has lasted longer than conventional wisdom suggested it would,” a South Carolina Republican said. “It's going to take a sustained, multi-pronged paid media effort to educate voters that Trump is not a conservative and has flip-flopped on practically every issue. Major donors are quickly getting to the place where they are ready to fund such an effort." That's odd, because many say the same (but inverse) about Hillary: she is not a progressive but is in fact a conservative - perhaps this is the first presidential election in which a Democrat pretends to be a Republican and vice versa.
"Numbers are numbers and you have to give them credence. I remain skeptical that he has the ability to turn people out, come primary day, but I [have] been wrong about this campaign every step of the way so far", added a New Hampshire Republican, who like all participants responded via an online survey.
Yes, yes, we get it - everyone hates Trump, everyone was certain he would be crushed by now, and everyone was wrong precisely for those reasons.
And just as it was cool to bash Trump three months ago, suddenly it has become all too hip to predict his success: it is amusing how "experts" have become the laughing stock themselves, exposed as nothing more than clueless windsocks .
To be sure, not everyone is a hater:
- “I think he's now mounting a serious campaign,” a South Carolina Republican said. “His stump speech had matured and even though the novelty of his candidacy is wearing off, his straight talk is appealing to people who are so sick of being lied to by the political class.”
- Another Iowa Republican agreed, saying, “The more time that goes by that he continues to lead — the more likely it is he wins. That simple. Also, comparatively, he is building a real campaign. More so than many others.”
- "Not sure why anyone should be so surprised that Trump's campaign is getting so serious in terms of infrastructure build-out,” a New Hampshire Democrat said. “Trump may be a jerk, but he is an extremely successful jerk. He has the means and the smarts to compete everywhere — and he is not slowing down.”
Politico continues:
Twenty-two percent of Caucus Republicans said Trump has a 50-50 shot at becoming the Republican nominee; the same percentage said he has a 30 percent chance. The rest of the respondents were divided, with the majority saying his odds are still less than 50 percent. But more than 8-in-10 GOP respondents said those are better odds than they gave Trump a month ago.
The results are notable because they represent a big shift in the thinking of POLITICO Caucus insiders, who this summer were deeply skeptical of Trump’s staying power.
“Trump will be among 3-4 finalists well into April; of that there is no doubt,” an Iowa Republican said.
But the punchline comes from this insider:
“I think he's now mounting a serious campaign,” a South Carolina Republican said. “His stump speech had matured and even though the novelty of his candidacy is wearing off, his straight talk is appealing to people who are so sick of being lied to by the political class.”
And that is how the biggest Republican nightmare is coming true, because the bolded is all that really matters: if Trump can appeal to the silent, but vast majority - and so far he is doing just that - that is wholeheartedly sick of the fake left-right divide which has made a mockery of representative government and is pandering only to select special interests who have hijacked the US government in the past century, not only is the Trump's nomination "looking more likely" but so is the Trump presidency.
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Sure; but just because you have lots of currency doesn't mean you have a lick of intelligence....
I read your thoughts, or you mine, or we are both aware that this is bollocks. Just the manipulation of the masses. if the c*nts, (bushes) are out of cash, then grand pa-pap BUSH has lost control of MKULTRA, and like i said that 'aint possible
or has grand pa-pap lost control.
right, out of $$ .ha!... word is the Bush dynasty is working in the TrillZZ$$ .... and
with "Walker" in 2nd, well, you may as well say Bush has 14 + 15 so @ 29% is the landslide winner.
anyone who thinks Hitlery is going to get this prize better wise up. this one is going Bush all the way. (g H Walker-Bush, remember). and no, i'm NOT a red/blue supporter but a realist.
+ .... even though we're over 50 years since JFK's hit, there's still loose ends to be tied up and various sundries to be covered up and classified .... maybe still a hit or two for the itchy trigger fingers too ...
@idea_hamster: "(I refuse to say "JEB Bush." It's like saying "ATM machine.")"
So you also have the sense not to say "SSN Number" or "PIN Number"?
You'd be amazed how many people are too obtuse to know the difference. [sigh]
Jeb!
Yep, he's the money man. I'll believe he's going to back out when I hear actual money (Koch brothers, Lloyd, etc) have truly stopped backing him.
America needs another milque toast Bush as much as it needs another lying, cheating Cunt-on or a third term of the lying cheating illegal alien muslim fudgepacker.
Jeb! might be out of money for real if the ruling Donor Class is satisfied Hillary will keep the money-printing presses rolling continuously. He's redundant.
CNN: ‘Hillary’s best week ever?’
http://tinyurl.com/o656ocs
That could merely be a promise not to prosecute Hitlery and nothing to do with electoral politics.
His name is the clincher. People from the US want the US to continue to Trump the rest.
The Bush crime cartel will make the Donald an offer he can't refuse. Jeb Bush when Florida governor for three and ond one half years, until 2004, covered up the role Casino Jack Abramoff had in murdering Gus Boulis. Abramoff, a top fund raiser for George Bush in 2000, signed checks totaling $250,000 to the Mafia capo whose crew gunned down Boulis in a drive-by shooting in February 2001 in Ft. Lauderdale. The police has video of the killers eating a meal in a Wendy's some 100 yards from the contract killing. Yet, neither the Ft. Lauderdale police nor the Florida Department of Law Enforcement did anything to solve the crime. Abramoff, whose down payment of $24 million by wire transfer "bought" Sun Cruz Casino's fleet of gambling boats, kept the business after the wire transfer bounced. Ohio Congressman Ney went to prison for his role in the shakedown to force Boulis to sell his business but no other politician, including Jeb Bush, was prosecuted. The FBI and U.S. Attorneys in Florida and Ohio were also involved in this theft but they all walked. Abramoff, who signed the SunCruz Casino checks totaling $250,000 to the Mafia capo, got off with under tree years in prison. With Jeb's background assisting organized crime, Trump better double his bodyguard and stay out of Florida.
And who can forget the total "oh shit" deer in the headlights moment when JEB! got asked in New Hampshire about what happened to all those records flown from Huffman Aviation in Sarasota to FBI HQ in the days after 9/11, on a plane that JEB! himself was on.
Has anyone asked him about signing the PNAC document from the 90s calling for a "New Pearl Harbor"
it's as if it never happened.
people are stupid, insane and a mess.
The true insiders have already selected who the president will be. It doesn't take much digging to figure it out either. Don't shoot the messenger but it will be Rubio vs Clinton with Clinton becoming POTUS. I figured it out 3 years ago and it has been confirmed with Clinton being able to get away unscathed with the Benghazi scandal and will no doubt beat the email scandal (see Lois Lerner and the IRS news today).
It doesn't change the fact that elections don't matter anyway as has been the case since they killed JFK. Real change will come through a financial disaster or some other event that forces people to take a look at and change the political structure back to a Republic that was founded.
3 months from Iowa and Jeb is out of cash. LOLOLOLOL Loser.
-dbl-
Has anyone seen a poll of registered Democrats who intend to vote for the Trumpster? THAT would be worth doing.
HaHaHa eat shit Republican establishment schmucks. You are out for yourselves and the money that you worship above the base of your party, and nothing more.
They won't sit still for this. Watch for fabricated polling (showing Trump losing support) over the next several weeks.
"fabricated polling" already on Fox.
Hey, did ya see the Donald is wearing a red tie- I told you he was a Communist.
That's what they did with Romney in 2012. Ron Paul spoke to packed houses while Romney's "crowds" all had the same hand painted signs.
Hey, Bilderburg Mother Fucking Scum Fucks! What do you think now? Completely fucks up your "Selection" process doesn't it? You diabolical assholes.
this shit is unfolding just the way the elitist want...
please believe it...
the people dont select Presidents - the shadow government installs Presidents...
until this country is purged of the Monied Ruling Elites and their influence its all show....
I've got plenty of rope. You down & good to go?
LOL! Like voting matters. Further proof the Trump works for Hillary...
Mark my words, we will get another (oligarch approved) Bush/Clinton "choice".
You need to come over my place and play some strip poker.
He doesn't work for her but what he does works for her.
Sweet!!!
Regardless, it will in fact be another lose-lose "choice" for the american taxpayer.
I think the Donald knows well what kind of cheap political whore that Hiliary is.
Reminds me of an old Joke;
Hiliary says, "You want me to do what for $100 ? What kind of woman do you think I am ?"
He says, "We've already established what kind of woman you are. We're just negotiating the price."
To those of us who are "non-American", Donald comes across as the "Hope and Change" candidate for the Republican Party.
Quite "THE" scam artist, who is proud to have "used Bankruptcy as a Business Tool" - great moral compass there "folks".
"Gonna deport all them Illegals" - the same low cost (therefore illegal) labour he was VERY happy to use to build HIS "Empire".
"Trump University" - say no more.
Anyhow, it's great entertainment for the rest of the World, especially the venom being spouted by the vehemently opposed "political factions" - in view of the little fact that Donald is NOT running as an Independent, rather as one of the "Different colour, SAME POLICIES", Corporate USA "approved" party.
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose . . . .
Would you prefer that we vote for the USS Cankles?
WE would ALL prefer YOU to "vote" for someone (anyone) who would put an immediate stop to US overseas meddling / "Regime Change"; someone who realises that everyone else has the right to run their Contries their way, without "US Guidance".
Seeing as that will not happen (yet . . .), it really makes no difference who you vote for. The end result will be the same as far as those really in control are concerned.
Different label, same contents.
Parrotile:
"Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose . " Sounds Greek to me...
I take Trump as sincere that he wants to bring jobs and incomes back to the USA. And he has a history of playing hardball. So at least there is a chance.
Clintons, directly in your face, and indirectly through extortion using the foundation have lined their pockets for years by selling out their country.
So whatever country you are from and whatever gives you amusement, maybe you could enlighten us about your own squeaky clean politicians. Because where ever I look they all are dirty.
From Australia, Mate. Our Politicos are possibly worse than yours, with corruption here very rampant, and a sycophantic tendency to do just as America demands, no consideration for downstream consequences.
The problem with America is the weaponry, and the MIC . . . . . All those nice toys, and there are more than a few in the High Command with ideas of their own. That is the risk to us all, and it is a REAL risk. McCain is not an isolated nutcase . . . . . .
From Australia, Mate. Our Politicos are possibly worse than yours, with corruption here very rampant, and a sycophantic tendency to do just as America demands, no consideration for downstream consequences.
The problem with America is the weaponry, and the MIC . . . . . All those nice toys, and there are more than a few in the High Command with ideas of their own. That is the risk to us all, and it is a REAL risk. McCain is not an isolated nutcase . . . . . .
<-- A: YES, will definitely leave the US. Enough is enough!
<-- A: NO, I will stay in the US, and take my lumps. And bitch & moan about it.
Q: If we get Clinton or Bush for POTUS in 2016, will you stay or leave the US?
Trump with the leg drop! Oh, it's bedlam at the Garden tonight!
I could have sworn that I saw an earlier article showing Jeb with the largest cash-pile, even more that Hitlery.
What happened to it? Glad the slime is out of cash, hopefully Hellery will be too.
JEB's problem is with his CAMPAIGN finances. He would have all the money he will ever need if he could tap into the various PACs tied to his election, but he can't, and as individual donations are both public and limited in how much a donor can give, his ass is in a crack. The regular public is not supporting him. Plenty of dark money for later, but these primary fights are all about grassroots support, and he doesn't have very much.
11b40
Kind of says it all, that the Pacs that want to control you, have endless money. But the individuals that you need to vote for you, won't open their wallets.
Adelson has apparently lined up behind Rubio. Rubio is the Bush klan's Plan B.
I think you are right, but too bad for them, as Rubio is weak.
He even looks weak, and he is carrying campaign finance baggage that can be exploited later by an opponent. Trump has already taken a couple of swipes at him, with his comments on Rubio's sweating and need for water for his dry mouth when under pressure. Rubio will look like a little puppy in a head-to-head match up with Trump.
Let's face it. Without a ton of Super Pac money, both of these dudes wouldn't even be in the race. Trump is kicking their butts in their home state! A former 2-term Governor and a sitting U.S. Senator, and Trump is embarrassing them both right in their own back yards.
That's right. The PACs don't just WANT to control you. They DO control you, and your colleagues
Say "Thank you" to the "conservative" John Roberts Supreme Court and the Citizens United decision, and a lower Federal Court decision in SpeechNow.org vs. FEC, for hanging a For Sale sign on America's political system, open to predators from all around the world. When corporations can make secret contributions to PACs, corporate ownership cannot be traced. Hence, we have companies controlled by foreign individuals, and even foreign governments, able to spend unlimited amounts to influence and direct governmental policies and legally bribe politicians.
Oh yes, Corporations are people, my friend.
https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=corporations+are+people+too+my+fri...
The fact is, our leaders don't need our money in the form of campaign contributions so much anymore. They just need to lie to us enough to gain support from a pool of folks who have not yet figured out the game and still send in their relatively small checks. Once they secure their party's nomination, only the wealthy donors matter anymore.
But, as evidenced by the utter contempt and disgust being expressed toward establishment politicians in this election cycle, many more people are starting to 'get it'. I hope it's not too late. but it is very late and the door is closing. The TPP and other trade deals on the table, if enacted, will mean the end of America as we have known it.
We need a leader with experience that can take the country through bankrupcy. Trump is our guy.
economessed
Now that may or may not be tongue-in-cheek.
But Trump is one smart cookie to keep individual companies isolated from creditors, so that if they fail, they fail on their own and do not pull everything else down with them.
And if you ever were near bankruptcy or had to go through that process and still come out the other end whole, then you would have a little more respect.
K
ps Trump won't say it, but I am certain he knows this country is bankrupt.
trump proves that when politicians are asked to stand up for what they believe in and act naturally they can't stand for anything.
It's all bullshit! Hitlery will be POTUS. We are well and truly fucked!
END THE FED!
I know many Democrats that plan to cross party lines and vote for Trump if Hitlery is the candidate.
Trump would take the union vote and a good portion of the black vote. It would be a done deal. Yuge.
I'm neither D nor R, but I promise you this.... The Clintons move me WAY to the Right.
I will take Rubio for $200 jack, he is the likely establishment candidate this time around. I could also see a brokered convention with Romney for strike 3.....Sorry this wont hold up. They wont give it to Carson even if he is the best man for it. Paul killed himself with flipflops, walker buggering little boys, america wasnt stupid enough for Crusty, Fiorina, Kasick, or Jeb. Cruz well dont know what to say there, was he ever really running?
I don't care for Walker but I don't know anything about him and child sex, and I'm inclined to discount such scurillousness. You are totally right about Paul. He'd be in second or third place as the serious libertarian adult alternative to the reality star and the excellent surgeon who has no experience managing anything. But, his flip-floppery drove away pretty much his entire base months ago. Then, he decamped to Haiti for that charity eye doctor thing, which is great and which should have been great media, but instead in that time frame he fell off the face of the earth.
I'm not up on Walker being a pedo. Maybe you mean Santorum?
Cruz is still a very serious contender.
He's just hangin' back in the pack for the first couple of laps....
Cruz is seriously trying to suck up to Trump, slobbering over the idea of a VP slot. I can't imagine Trump wanting to be around Cruz for more than about 10 minutes.
Piss off. Fucker.
Rubio is the GOP version of Obama. Without his cue cards he wouldn't know what he stood for. But he certainly is of the pliable material needed for an establishment candidate. More war, open borders, bet he will offer to arm-wrestle Putin if his handlers told him to.
Sorry to intrude on your wet dream, but Rubio and Romney are both status quo stuffed shirts responsible for the demise of this once great country. If you are endorsing them, I suspect you also have a 'B4U&L#L@S*E%Y^E on your back.
Ben Carson still has my vote and there is plenty of time left for that to happen. Trump is simply the trump card if needed. I hope it does not come to that.
If all that Trump accomplishes is to stem the illegal alien invasion, he has my vote
Chupa mi verga, pendejo.
A Trump/Carson ticket would bring out the largest voter turnout in American history.
I am enjoying the laugh at the GOP pricks failing to get their man nominated. If Trump goes all the way, I just hope America scores too rather than going the one-worldly wuss route.
I am enjoying the laugh at the GOP pricks failing to get their man nominated. If Trump goes all the way, I just hope America scores too rather than going the one-worldly wuss route.
Good.
Eat shit GOP establishment!
Of course, you meant eat Trump's shit GOB establishment, right?
Trump will be easily manipulated by TPTB.
God this country is such a joke. The one good thing that comes from this is that it's a big fuck you to the establishment.
Refusing to vote in fake elections is a civic duty.
You will vote anyway, the only issue is whether or not you cast it.
You're probably right but at least my conscience is clear. (fwiw...which isn't much)
That's like saying you're rooting for the Raiders or the Bears if you avoid the stadium in which they are playing, isn't it? Or am I missing something?
Indeed.
"The one good thing that comes from this is that it's a big fuck you to the establishment."
I'm thinking the deer in the headlights photo would have been appropiate for this post.
Go Don, Go! ALL the way -!
VP Ron Paul?
The Don & Ron show
With Jim Grant as Treasury Secretary!!!!
Ichan haz Treasury Secretary?
MsCreant
Naw, the Donald will have him renegotiating all the "free" trade deals. All the Donald needs to do is start inspecting each and every container while reducing staff. Nothing in any trade deal spells out how you are going to handle goods when they arrive nor how long it takes to check them for drugs, etc.
...and cheezeburgers!
Holy Cow. That would be insane....but it'll never happen. That would be one way for me to vote for Trump. May vote for him if it looks close, otherwise I'm a Ron P write-in kinda guy.
If a 3rd Bush is the best the 'pubs can come up with, well, Darwin is a harsh dude to deal with.
The Republicans nominating Jeb! is probably the best thing they could do for the country, since it would quite possibly mean the End Of The Republican Party As We Know It.
Go Yeb! Go! Arriba, arriba!
Seriously. Ron Paul would make a GREAT VP
Imagine the PTB thinking about offing The Donald,
Only to be replaced by RON-!
He'd be 82 taking the oath of office. Too old. Let that man retire in peace. He did enough damage in public "service" already.
Lots of folks might off "The Donald" under those conditions actually.
MsCreant
I said the other day that the Donald should stop talking about needing Secret Service to guard him; all they will do is make sure there is a clear shot.
I'd rather see Ron head up and them chew up the Federal Reserve.
The red background makes him look like a communist. He's far from it.
GOP = red states = red background. Try to keep up.
Most real conservatives despise the tight relationship the leadership has with the corrupt maggot bankers and defense/drug swine. Trump is not near perfect, and there are lots of unknowns... but compared to the gay baboon Obongo and the dried booger, Queen of Liars, HillaRoid... he looks pretty good. Carson is not strong enough to save a nation that is in flames and near collapse.
He may look better than Obama and Hillary, but I wouldn't say "he looks pretty good."
We're fucked one way or the other.
The only thing that saves us is a war next Memorial Day week-end.
No more stinking wars ! Let those Middle East cretins kill each other.
If war comes, it will be between our military, who want to commandeer all the crude oil reserves on the planet, and sundry sundry other militaries who do not want us to do that.
Those Middle East cretins are either working for us or them.
I never thought Jeb was really in contention to begin with, just a shitty candidate with an open borders message that nobody was buying.
Not to mention a last name that a large portion of the public literally hates.
Trump will not win. He's a bone thrown to a disgruntled public until elections are suspended under COGCON 0.
I hope Trump gets the nomination, and wins. And I hope we get a 90% Republican majority in both houses of Congress. And I hope all the liberal Supreme Court justices resign the next day, and Trump gets to appoint a 9-0 ultra-conservative majority on the Big Bench. Hey, history has shown that single-party systems do real well.
I say let's get the ball rolling. Go head to head with Russia and China. invade every damn country that won't yield to our wisdom and leadership. Let's eliminate all taxes, and double military spending. Let's wave the flag and spout Bible verses at all the heathens.
We can create an airtight jobs program building railroads for shipping all the illegals out, and drive unemployment to zero. Let's replace the pledge of allegiance with a loyalty oath. Round up anyone who won't take the oath, which will be drafted by Sean Hannity, by the way.
Social Security? Bah. Go to Greece if you want that. And guns, well guns should be mandatory for all white males over age 13, with open carry. That will eliminate all crime. And let's make it illegal to be homeless...we can clean up those piss-stained inner city buildings. And if you want some privacy, well dammit you must be hiding something, so let's lock you ass up.
What America has lost is the ability to think, to compromise, to be fair, to show true justice. We have forgotten that the best thing going for the Democrats is a strong Republican party, and the best thing going for Republicans is a strong Democratic party. It's called balance. We've forgotten that it is not the military that protects us from enemies, it is the Constitution that protects us from everything, especially a big, fat government with a near limitless military power.
America has forgotten that people are just people, all with thoughts, feelings, wants, needs and desires. We treat the entire world like it is there to do our bidding, and if hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis get murdered by the USA military machine, well so what. Millions are displaced by our endlessly foolish policies, but so what. Wave that flag, yo!!!
Excellent
NOW STAND A POST SOLDIER!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopNAI8Pefg
Hiliary... is that you ?
Trump has clearly said he believes in a strong military, but he doesn't believe war is the answer to every question.
He is on the record BEFORE Dubya invaded Iraq that it was a dumbshit thing to do and would only create a vacuum; and that took some courage since all Media was beating the drum for war.
And he is also on the record about how loose our immigration policies were (and continue to be) prior to 9/11. I mean what the fuck does it take to see ahead a little bit in the future- the Twin Towers had already been bombed once.
trump said he is going to say merry christmas during christmas season. he is tired of saying happy holidays to please irritable old new york jews. that's reason enough for me to vote for him and i'm buddhist. lol
good thing he doesn't need irratable old New York Jews' money.
Trump cannot become President because his style of leadership would seriously divide the voting public and result in either assassination attempts, or major demonstrations against his candidacy. Israel lobby would not want someone as polarized as Trump. Women will not allow Trump to be elected, and they will vote strategically to prevent him from taking the helm. Moreover, black American citizens, and Mexican Americans, will revolt if Trump gets near to being elected as President.
Black Americans and Legal Mexicans may support Trump's effort to keep out illegals, since it means less competition for jobs
Just like legal free blacks supported slavery? /sarc off
When the overseers went up north to get their slaves back, they didn't check real carefully who was a "slave" vs. who was free. ICE isn't going to check real closely when they round up brown people. Legal Mexican-Americans live with that reality every day, and will not be in favor of Trumpismo that enhances the chances they'll get thrown in a ditch in Tijuana by ICE.
That's just BS. LEGAL Mexican-Americans have no danger of being deported. Illegals, on the other hand, not so much....but they can't vote.
"Women will not allow Trump to be elected, and they will vote strategically to prevent him from taking the helm."
The female vote is irrelevant regarding the GOP. Killary will be the Dumb nominee, and she will get a huge majority of the female vote against any Thug nominee merely because her alleged possession of a clitoris is more important to them than the fact that she is a corrupt warmongering grifter.
really superficial, dumb analysis
Hiliary... is that you ? Do you have as many ZH accounts as you had private e-mail servers ?
Oh, yeah. We know you have that other one...
Oh, yeah, good thing your advisors told you not to run with that "Jobs for Bankers" slogan.
ps. let us in on what kind of soap you use to get the slime off.
Hillary's plan to have Trump fuck up the GOP primary so she could win in a walk has succeeded well beyond any reasonable expectations.
I'd say I can't believe people are falling for this crap, except I can.
By crap , I you mean Hillary , right?
I mean the virtually open conspiracy between Trump and the Clintons, and Trump being on the record saying that if he ever ran for President it would be for the purpose of demonstrating the lack of seriousness in the electoral system.
Hillary's plan ?? Hillary's plan ??
Must be something awfully dirty scrubbed off that server to go through the spectacle she is going through. That is planning ?
Would declaring martial law negate election results? Perhaps we shall find out.
You sir, are an optimist.
Sometimes, the first duty of an optimist is to be realistic.
If anybody in a position to do anything about it really believed Trump was ever going to be POTUS or would change anything if he were, Trump would already be dead or sitting in a real prison (political prisoners don't get Club Fed) with little hope of ever coming out again.
Irwin Schiff died in prison for far less.
Trump's incredible ego says you're wrong.
I predict extreme mayhem for the first year, until Trump publically outs all the scumbags.
The politicians who are decent, but trapped within the corrupt system might welcome him and feel safe enough to back him
Never happen. He'll get the Dealy Plaza fix first.
PS - He's a fucking liberal democrat!!
I was just thinking the other day that after a run that included JFK, Squeaky Fromme taking a shot at Jerry, and Reagan getting shot by Bush's good buddy's son, all in the space of less than 20 years, we've gone for 30 years without anyone taking a shot at a president. I am not in favor of anyone shooting a candidate or president. But you have to wonder if Trump will be the one who gets it, and what Mexican Lee Harvey Oswald they'll pin it on before he in turn gets shot by a "Tea Party" white guy before he can testify.
Do not forget thet these "Scumbags" are the real "Invisible Government" - Deep State is a common phrase.
They wield the REAL power, and The Donald certainly will NOT be in a position to (or even to consider) "outing" them. Maybe a few underlings might be hung out to dry for public appeasement / "entertainment" (see, I'm doing what I said I'd do), but those who really "pull the strings" will be certain that The Donald is very firmly under their control.
I suspect The Donald might well be your next President - and the result will be very interesting, with consolidation of the laws relating to "Whistleblowers" being an early agenda item ("We remember how we used to deal with Traitors").
With fewer prepared to risk the consequences of "lifting the lid" on all those underhand and corrupt political activities, such organisations (Public and Private) who prefer that their dirty laundry is NOT aired in public, will be VERY happy for such an obliging Presidency.
Taking out the Deep State would be a formidable task - unlikely it could be accomplished anytime soon-too much power. They could take out trump in front of 100,000 witnesses and the media would never report it -instead there would be another 100,000 wacko conspiracy theorists created.
Bush Baby
You wrote: Trump outs all the scumbags….. Politicians who are decent.
Trump is the biggest scumbag. Second, how old are you?
Chris Hedges: We on the left have forgotten that the question is not how do you get good people to rule, most people who rule are mediocre at best and usually venal. The question is how do we make those in power frightened of us and not be seduced by formal political processes.
"Decent people" are rarely interested in real political power, and rarely succeed in obtaining it if they try. Those few who manage it are generally removed as quickly as possible.
In other words, there are no decent politicians.
"Decent people" are rarely interested in real political power, and rarely succeed in obtaining it if they try.
You are spot on with that comment! In the USA being a sociopath is almost a prerequisite to holding public office at the federal level.
and the rainbow unicorns will descend from their flying saucers and poop enough skittles to solve world hunger!
If Trump is elected, I predict he may possibly become one of the strongest Presidents this country ever had.
Plus , I believe the man actually loves this counrty and will do what's in the best interest of the USA.
If Trump loses, we'll all be dialing #2 for English.
Trump looks like he's on a roll - the danger is that he is being approached right now to sign a contract with the devil's agents to assure he will be President. They may be making him an offer he cannot refuse. Mephistopheles comes to mind.
Mephistopheles comes to mind.
Mephistopheles Silverman you mean???
If Trump is elected, I predict he may possibly become one of the strongest Presidents this country ever had.
That could be possible if he could live up to all his tough talk. The problem is he is in deep with the Tribe (you don't do squat in the high end real estate market in Neu Yuk without dealing with the Tribe) . . . . so you know who'll actually be calling the shots if he gets elected.
"If anybody in a position to do anything about it really believed Trump was ever going to be POTUS or would change anything if he were, Trump would already be dead or sitting in a real prison (political prisoners don't get Club Fed) with little hope of ever coming out again."
Well said.
If anybody in a position to do anything about it really believed Trump was ever going to be POTUS or would change anything if he were, Trump would already be dead or sitting in a real prison . . .
I don't think the prison thing is the way it will go for Trump . . . if the establishment can't get rid of Trump via "legitimate" means (e.g. MSM slander, a honey pot set up, typical dirty tricks . . . whatever) then he will go the way Bobby Kennedy did in 1968.
Who would be this "anybody in a position" POS you refer to? Fuck such said individual and/or group.
"... forcing one after another political "expert", talking head and pundit ... to throw in the towel, and admit they have no idea how to read the American public."
Maybe the public has finally started to figure out that the professionals running for the nomination are completely bought and paid for.
And maybe the public has figured out that if the professional politicians in either party are elected, there will be zero change in policies related to perpetual war, upward transfer of wealth, and the police state.
In two years I should be a dual national. Thank God.
Good for you.
Travel under THEIR flag. Bravo.
Conversion to either reform or orthodox judaism is fast if you bribe the right rabbi. Donald Trump's daughter is an atheist Jew now, and can receive israeli citizenship.
Your picture says you are about 145 years old. I call bullshit. Are you typing that stuff from the grave?
betamax
don't you have anything better to say?
Blinded by their pavlovian reflex two users have junked me (at the time of this writing), for writing an apolitical, uncontroversial statement involving jews.
1.-That you can convert to judaism.
2.-That it is easy to do by bribing the right rabbi.
2.-That it entitles you to receive israeli citizenship.
3.-That donald trump's daughter converted to judaism.
These facts are separated from any dislike you may have of israel, judaism or rabbis.
if trump can maintain a belief in about 70% of adults (not necessarily voters) that he'll turn things upside down as potus - he is!
Bwahahahahahahahaha...
Stupid country deserves stupid
Leader.
I'm not this country citizen. Let me makes prediction.
If trumps is the nominatiom, and the other is hillary?
Your president would be trump.
Now, let's see if i'm correct about this.
what
Run along. This thread isn't about Russia...
but
Then what are you doing here, betamax?
JEB could be as dumb and senile as Biden and as ugly and shrill as Hillary- and still get nominated. It only matters who counts the votes and who makes the decisions. Here is the dilemma for the controllers: do we work at fixing Jeb's numbers or do we work at lasooing Trump with some deep dark secret?
Should all else fail, some white, conservative, gun-toting crazed nutjob will be used to create a useful crisis.
You are referring to Mike Huckabee?
Yeah, are you referring to Mike Hucksterbe?
Yes we need another Crisis! And who is best to handle a crisis - who was so cool, calm and collected when he learned of 911 that he simply kept reading the goat book to the little school children -no panic, no emotion -eyes and nerves of steel. The look of determination and conviction and courage in his eyes must have sent a shiver down the spine of the terrorsits. Yes we need another Bush! a VOTE FOR jEB is not just a vote for Jeb -Standing behind him, fighting the forcres of evil and the terrorists -will be brother George, papa Bush, Barbara, as well as brothers marvin and neil -the Dream team.