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Meet "Stunningly Catastrophic" Patricia, The World's Strongest Storm Ever Is About To Hit Mexico
"Stunning, historic, mind-boggling, and catastrophic" is how Weather Underground's Jeff Masters sums up Hurricane Patricia, which intensified to an incredible-strength Category 5 storm with 200 mph winds overnight as it approaches the Mexican coast. As The NY Times reports, The World Meteorological Organization warned that the hurricane’s strength was comparable to that of Typhoon Haiyan, which caused devastation in the Philippines in 2013, and so Mexico has declared a state of emergency for Puerto Vallarta (with officials warning that storm surges could cause waves of up to 39 feet) as she is forecast to hit the coast between 6 and 10pm ET.
As Weather Undergound reports,
At 2:46 am EDT October 23, 2015 an Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft measured a central pressure of 880 mb in Patricia, making it the most intense hurricane ever observed in the Western Hemisphere. The aircraft measured surface winds of 200 mph, which are the highest reliably-measured surface winds on record for a tropical cyclone, anywhere on the Earth. The previous strongest Eastern Pacific hurricane was Hurricane Linda of 1997, with a pressure of 902 mb (estimated from satellite imagery.)
Patricia the fastest-intensifying Western Hemisphere hurricane on record
Patricia's central pressure dropped an astonishing 100 mb in 24 hours, making it the fastest-intensifying hurricane ever observed in the Western Hemisphere. Patricia's pressure at 5 am EDT Thursday, October 22, 2015 was 980 mb, and was 880 mb at 5 am EDT Friday. The previous record was a drop of 97 mb in 24 hours for Hurricane Wilma of 2005 (between 1200 UTC 18 October - 1200 UTC 19 October), according to the official NHC report for the storm.
Patricia's intensification rate was very close to the WMO-recognized world record for fasting-intensifying tropical cyclone: 100 millibars in just under 24 hours by Super Typhoon Forrest in the Northwest Pacific in 1983.
Patricia's 200 mph sustained winds make it the 3rd strongest tropical cyclone in world history (by 1-minute averaged wind speed.)
Officially, here are the strongest tropical cyclones in world history, according to the Joint Typhoon Warning Center and the National Hurricane Center (using 1-minute averaged sustained winds):
- Super Typhoon Nancy (1961), 215 mph winds, 882 mb. Made landfall as a Cat 2 in Japan, killing 191 people.
- Super Typhoon Violet (1961), 205 mph winds, 886 mb pressure. Made landfall in Japan as a tropical storm, killing 2 people.
- Super Typhoon Ida (1958), 200 mph winds, 877 mb pressure. Made landfall as a Cat 1 in Japan, killing 1269 people.
- Super Typhoon Haiyan (2013), 195 mph winds, 895 mb pressure. Made landfall in the Philippines at peak strength.
- Super Typhoon Kit (1966), 195 mph winds, 880 mb. Did not make landfall.
- Super Typhoon Sally (1964), 195 mph winds, 895 mb. Made landfall as a Cat 4 in the Philippines.
However, it is now recognized (Black 1992) that the maximum sustained winds estimated for typhoons during the 1940s to 1960s were too strong.
Some Mexican regions are at dire risk...
Hurricane #Patricia, the strongest storm on record in the E. Pacific, is bound for Mexico! https://t.co/ouR20nJ6Xp pic.twitter.com/lCj3aQG7RO
— Elliot Abrams (@accuElliot) October 23, 2015
The city of Puerto Vallarta and some of Mexico’s most popular resorts are in the path of the storm. Flooding and landslides are expected near coastal areas...
Satellite loops early Friday afternoon showed that Patricia’s cloud tops had begun to warm, indicating weakening, and with wind shear now a moderate 10 - 20 knots and interaction with land beginning to occur, Patricia will likely weaken to 155 - 175 mph winds by landfall. The storm's expected turn toward the northeast has begun, and the storm is beginning to accelerate toward the coast of the Mexican state of Colima.
Regardless of northern motion per last advisory #Patricia jogging northeast now. Getting concerned about Manzanillo pic.twitter.com/qkDniGXM7Q
— Jim Cantore (@JimCantore) October 23, 2015
At particular risk is the city of Manzaillo, a regional center that straddles the back of a bay spanning several miles. On its current track, it apperas that Patricia could make landfall sometime between 6:00 and 10:00 pm EDT just to the northwest of Manzanillo--a trajectory that raises the odds of a catastrophic storm surge in or near Manzanillo. Patricia’s strongest winds are confined to a relatively small area, with hurricane-force winds only spanning a range of 30 miles from Patricia’s center. Category 5 winds of 156+ mph cover an area 15 miles across. Wherever those winds are focused, we can expect gigantic waves atop a devastating surge.
An unnamed 1959 hurricane--the deadliest in Northeast Pacific history, with an estimated 1800 direct and indirect fatalities--struck near Manzanillo on October 27...
As the storm approached, posts on Instagram showed people trying to leave Puerto Vallarta. One user posted a photograph of a message from a nearby resort that warned people to return home for their safety. “If this is not possible, please wait for further instructions for a possible evacuation,” the notice read.
In the United States, only three Category 5 storms that made landfall have been recorded, Mr. Feltgen said: a 1935 hurricane that killed more than 400 people; Hurricane Camille, which hit Mississippi and killed 244 people in 1969; and Hurricane Andrew, which hit Florida in 1992, killing at least 10 people there and three in the Bahamas.
But Hurricane Patricia is “uncharted territory,” as The Weather Channel's Jim Cantore summed it up ominously...
Historic #Patricia God help these people in its path. pic.twitter.com/hLgDM3Xsz1
— Jim Cantore (@JimCantore) October 23, 2015
As Bloomberg concludes,
“We can’t underestimate the magnitude of this phenomenon,” Roberto Ramirez, chief of Mexico’s National Water Commission, said in a message streamed on the Internet Friday, urging residents to take precautions or evacuate. “A Category 5 hurricane could lift cars, destroy houses that aren’t built with steel, rebar and cement, and sweep people away.”
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That should stop the flow of illegal immigrants from coming over for a while.
Free Obama boats being given out
"That should stop the flow of illegal immigrants from coming over for a while."
Wrong! That will increase the flow ... just look at Syria and Europe what happens when you have millions of displaced and desperate people that lost everything.
Weather manipulation, its whats for dinner.
Can’t somebody just draw a RED LINE in front of the hurricane? ;-)
Looney
or maybe sanctions?
Hurricane Trump
Now those fuckers will literally be flying over the border, the wall needs to be higher and hurricane proof.
Cmon ZH, don't be fooled. This is NOT the "strongest storm on record"
From weather.com:
It's a naming convention used to lie to the western world that the world is ending. This is not the strongest tropical cyclone ever recorded.
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-75...
Regards,
Cooter
...AND Storm "Hillary" About to Smack the uS...
Mexico needs to declare a 'Storm-Free Zone'. I think if they can just get the signs up in time, and the legislation passed, they will be fine.
Jeff Masters at WeatherUnderground is a shill for the climate alarmists, and has lost all credibility as a scientist/meteorologist. He is incapable of reporting on a single cloud without exaggerating it to extremism and spouting nonsense about how it confirms catastrophic anthropomorphic global warming.
Now the excans can stay there and help rebuiold their country instead of invading the US. Heck, maybe I'll sneak across the border and enter Mexico. Perhaps I can get one of the low paying jobs the Mexicans don't want to do.
Hopefully Cantore takes a 2x4 to the head at 200 mph.
REally alarming news. People wouldn't listen and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
How come storms like this never hit SoCal? So close yet so far.
However, it is now recognized (Black 1992) that the maximum sustained winds estimated for typhoons during the 1940s to 1960s were too strong.
Revising decades old meterological data to make it seem less severe has the effect of making curent weather seem more extreme. But that's just a coincidence.
This is a great opportunity to reverse immigration.... send some “white” people to do the work that not even Mexicans will do.
"There is no doubt that Mexicans, filled with dignity, willingness and ability to work are doing jobs that not even blacks want to do there in the United States,"
– Mex Pres Vicente Fox
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add...
watch the LIVE feed from the resort cam while it's still broadcasting. Winds are really kickin' now and lighting is striking.
Waves are getting bigger and they're pushing a lot further up the beach than they were just a little while ago. If this resort is in a direct hit area then it's gonna get fucked up really bad.
http://www.silverdoctors.com/watch-live-as-largest-hurricane-ever-patric...
Funny (odd) thing is that it has a mic on it and along with the winds you can still hear kids and people laughing and playing in the background like at the pool or something. They sound like they're having a great time.......for now.....
ZH is the home of dumbass climate deniers. This place really is the internet's intellectual toilet
It wasn't back in its early days. I'm unsure of any climate claims, besides the recent extreme events. But yeah, everything above this post indicates a bunch of egocentric PRICKS! People are going to die and they make lame, obnoxiously over used "jokes". These are the ugly Americans ( many pretending to be Christians around their neighbors) !
Another Al Gore sheep spouts off. The global warming hysterics predicted a major increase in hurricanes that didn't happen. Just another wild prediction like sea levels rising and temperatures increasing missed by an order of magnitude or more. The article says that an unnamed hurricane hit Mexico in the thirties, a period of cooling climate.
I don't know where the term "climate deniers" comes from. Virtually no one denies that the climate changes over time. If not for climate change, New York would still be under six miles of ice. The contention is over whether a tax is any use for changing a temperature trend. So just call people who don't buy Al Gore's bullshit "dumbasses". Way to raise the level of intellectual discourse.
Anytime you mention Al Gore in a AGW debate it only exposes how little you actually know....
In other words, it shows your intellectual bankruptcy and that you have lost...
Nothing more than a variation of Godwin's Law...
5000 Green Arrows!!
No one is denying that there is a climate you stupid brainwashed fuck.
Why aren't you calling it global warming anymore?
The data did not fit your thesis?
Do you know anything at all about history?
It is full of clues as to the weather in the past. There were periods that were colder and then also warmer.
Hell, read some classic American literature and you will find hot and unbearable summers in the 1800s.
Instead of thinking for yourself and analyzing the available data a stupid fuck like you will believe any bullshit he is being fed by some authority.
Goldman and Sachs are very happy with your ignorance. They depend on it to push some legislation for trading carbon credits.
Why don't you package those anecdotes and write a book for cranky old farts living in denial...
Why was James Burke using the term "climate change" 90 seconds into his presentation of the 1989 Mike Slee film After The Warming?
How many times was the term "global warming" used during the press release of IPCC AR5 WG2?
Who co-sponsors the IPCC?
When was the International Meteorologial Organization formed? By who? Why?
We're deeply sorry that science confuses you so, but ignorance is no excuse, and physics doesn't give a rat's ass how fucking stupid you are.
It will kill your dumb ass either way.
LOL,
1) watch "Great Global Warming Swindle"
2) check out Hadley CRU email scandal.
3) realize insulting ppl isn't going to sell your cause.
4) explain to us how things like mars ice caps retreating
have to do with CO2 on this planet.
5) "snow will be a thing of the past" was a statement
made by a modern day conman, setting up a carbon
credit exchange to scam the sheeple.
Ex-MislTech, you must not delay! Translate "Great Global Warming Swindle" into russian and get it to President Putin before Paris seals the fate of man!
Golly, if I can't sell you on this crucially important mission to the Kremlin I'll never forgive myself : (
formadeslika
When citing chickens you forgot little.
No shit. I can't stand that idiot.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but the Mexicans that I know are the hardest working people in town...and they're here legally.
I've run many rig crews over the years and the Mexican crews are usually the better workers.
The only one I know is here legally too, became a citizen as well. Watching the bureaucracy that he had to wade through to do it made me understand why so many illegals don't bother exercising that route. It's expensive, time-consuming, and really just a way to make sure the man gets his FICA fix, at the end of the day.
He doesn't work that hard though, having a PhD makes manual labor something he only does on the weekends at home for my sister.
I beg to disagree with the name choice.
With sustained winds of hot air clocked at 200 mph, it should have been called Hurricane Hillary.
Yep he is the worst. He went off on me one day when I asked him where his funding came from.
That doesn't surprise me. Every time I read a ZH article, I'm almost convinced that the end of the world is five minutes away.
Drama, like sex, sells.
The more outrageous the headline, the more clicks.
Don't complain about the endless popup ads, or ask how to block them, or your account will get axed.
"or ask how to block them, or your account will get axed."
That's just stupidly false. Install Ghostery or adblock. If you use FireFox, you can install them as browser ad ons. Look it up.
Nope, every Mexican needs their own hurricane to defend themselves against surprise hurricane attacks.
Ah, so that's why coke prices are going up.
"No Coke, Pepsi."
... just the first one, and more to come :)
Not if we can get those taxes raised first!
On a long enough time scale, of course. In the mean time, can any AGW believer address the elephant in the room? How can you get all jazzed up about climate change and ignore the geoengineering program that's gone on for years? If you want to deny the existance of the geoengineering, ... well then I will understand your climate concerns are faith based a opposed to objective observation.
The Jet Stream over the Eastern Pacific has been obviously manipulated by parts of the USG for years. Maybe they've stopped for some reason like Russia and China told them they were violating international treaties? Maybe the storm door is now open and this monster 'caine is an aspect of reverting to norm after the distortion?
President Putin mentioned depletion of natural resources, habitat destruction, and climate change in his 28SEP15 Un address. No mention of CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
obviously he's in on it. No? oh riiiiight, the super secret meeting where 'they' were told to STOP!!!!! before it's TOO LAAAATE!!!!
so of course 'they' did, immediately, but alas, the end is nigh, pandora's box has been opened
but 'they' haven't stopped! All you have to do is go out and just look up! What's the great Dane's latest assessment? Hopefully Implied Violins caught a break from surface-to-air- missle WATCH long enough to bring ZH some links. Hopefully benb-and-the-ChemtrailJets will have the latest from SDG 2030 and HAARP!!!!!!!!!
Say, got a weight on that there elephant? gonna reveal the truth this Sunday?
LULZ
Vapid point. Climate Change is real. It happens all the time. Mostly in response to what the Sun is up to. Chemtrails are real. Again, how can someone get worked up about AGW and ignore the in-your-face chemtrails? Maybe we should find out what the spraying program is all about before we start proposing solutions to real or imagined AGW?
Contrails are real.... Chemtrails ain't..
Is there anything that you can get straight??
You demand that every party to the Kyoto Protocol postpone the Paris Conference Of Parties 21, and demand that every national science academy on earth "find out what the spraying program is all about" so the Parties can proceed with taking action on AGW?
You are insane. Neither of the above are going to happen so if "the spraying program" concerns you I suggest you move somewhere else. Or is "the spraying program" occurring everywhere on earth?
What's that you say? You shouldn't have to give up your 'lifestyle' and suffer health problems because of the evil chemtrails and the injustice of it all? You're fighting the good fight to protect your grandchildren's future?
Yeah, typical self-conscious self-absorbed being. Fuck you. You have no idea what is in store for your great-grandchildren.
Maybe the goal was to warm ocean temps and use storms as a weapon.
The oceans are currently accumalating heat at the net rate of 4 Hiroshima A-Bombs per second...
The worlds nuclear arsenal would correspond to a day or so...
Ignorance and innumeracy go hand in hand. All you need is some ideological fuel and a match for self immolation...
One of the things heating the oceans is underwater volcanoes.
The exact number is unknown, though we do know the entire
length of the plate boundarys have thermal vents.
With 5 volcanoes erupting in Indonesia at the same time it
might be safe to say there is an uptick in activity on the ring of fire.
http://www.weather.com/news/news/five-indonesia-volcanoes-erupt-ash-skies
The number of hurricanes is at a 45 year low.
http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/09/10/global-hurricane-energy-at-45-yea...
Ah, confirmation bias at its finest...
That would explain why water gets colder as you get deeper and how the warm SSTs are correlated with the plate boundaries....
\sarc...
It's right there in the "So you want to be an IPCC contributor" guide: "studies of the sun's or vulcano's influence are not accepted".
Just in from NSA intercept
"I better grab my pollo and sombrero and run to the land of Obama."
Yeah, and to say it's the third strongest in world history, and then only go back to 1958? Sorry, but world history covers a lot more ground than 60-odd (or 100, or 1000) years.
Yeah, except that there weren't any reliable measurement of such storms before the XXth century... No way to reliably measure = no records = no history.
Not to your average american sheep. "World history" started around WW2 and is encapsulated in the US of A.
Where the hell is Cantore!?!?
Good thing their houses are built out of cement, that shit ever hit the USA, the coastal communities would look like the salt flats
grammar, logic, rethoric = Trivium. Gammar is always first foundation to lay in any argumentation.
Grammar is what?
I mean, what the hell is gammar?
Hektopascal
Taifun Tip 1979 870,
Taifun Nora 1973 875,
Taifun June 1975 875,
Taifun Ida 1958 877,
Taifun Kit 1966 880,
Hurrikan Patricia 2015 880,
Hurrikan Wilma 2005 882,
Orkan Lothar 1999 962,
Orkan Kyrill 2007 less than 960
Hilly... Have You EVER Seen anyone MORE Lusting For Power ???
Fucking Look Out!
Let's all organize a concert to raise cash for the "corrupt officials"....ooops I mean the childrens!
It's what Hillary our beloved emperor would do. Just look at the miracles she did in Haiti.
Qu'ils mangent de la mud.
Killary
This should bring the price of hookers down a bit in Mexico. Prices are stubbornly high for such a poor cuntry.
If you would "lay" off a bit Spitzer there might be more supply than demand.
This is supposed to be an economics trashing forum, isn't it?
Hurricane Trump, There will be hell toupe!
We should start naming these after current politicians and then move into past hated politicians and finally maybe IRS official names..
Either youse guys pay carbon taxes or Burrito-land gets it.
Capice?
Silly, just make it a "No Hurricane zone" and everything will be fine....I wonder what's on CNN tonight? can't wait!!
Like anyone has ever stopped at an Obama red line before.
OH CRAP!! What about all those timeshares? What about all that "International Real Estate" they've been pumping on TV the last 5 years....oh well, I'm sure Mexico Real Estate Insurance is well funded, legitimate, honest and very customer oriented.
Exactly what I was thinking. Millions more in Mexican influx as "refugees." You can only hope that they like working for a living...
They do, as a matter of fact.
When I was 14 our family took a vacation in Puerto Vallarta, it was quaint and non-touristy vs. today.
One day I went body-surfing. I caught a wave 8' high, and got beaten up pretty hard when I went "over the falls". That kept me out of the water for the rest of the day...
I can only imagine what 39' waves would do, to people and to structures.
Hang in there, Mexico. Our wishes and prayers.
Body surfing while the smaller sharks get washed up on the beach...
Standard Disclaimer: True Story!
I used to go there in the 1970s...it was great back then...only one 'big hotel' and otherwise little canin type things you could rent. I hear it's pretty dangerous there now, sort of like Acapulco.
Sad what these gangs have done.
isn't Manzanillo where they filmed "Ten" - maybe they can send that annoying cunt Bo Derek down there again stat!
I did not mark you down. Back in her day she was beautiful. She is attractive now, for her age, very elegant. Not sure why she is annoying?
I am sickened by the invasion of Amerika by corrupt mexico but the scummy USSA is almost as corrupt.
These poor people. This storm is worse than Camille that hit Texas in the early 1970s which was a nightmare, Prayers for these poor people.
Waves of global warming rhetoric to come
There are huge profits for the 0.1% in carbon tax credits et al. Fuck a bunch of global warming. If true it will stabilise nicely once the over-population problem solves itself.
The sun's interaction with earth causes temperature flux, earthquakes, volcanoes and storms. We should petition Con-gress to make the earth a sunshine free zone. Problem solved.
Sending congress to the surface of the sun would solve MANY problems.
I have to wonder Whose congressional butt boy down voted you comment.
According to the media, there would be no sunshine if it didn't spring forth from ol' Barry Soetoro's ass (when Reggie's not filling it, that is).
Is that how we have day and night?
When Reggie pulls out the giant gapping asshole emmits light?
+100
AGW alarmists never address the biggest game in the galaxy....the Sun.
Freddie, since you don't define "AGW alarmists" I'm going to assume that since you use the term "AGW" you are therefore referring to the IPCC. There is no doubt that the IPCC has been ringing alarm bells since its inception following The Toronto Conference. It is argued that they weren't ringing them LOUD enough but there is little ambiguity on this point following the release of AR5.
To say that "the Sun" has never been addressed in the IPCC Assessment Reports is disingenuous.
disgraceful you are. Best you stick to gathering little factoids about relatively inconsequential matters and by all means continue to bash your pets.
you da man!
My 2 cents, the last time a hurricane formed like this was 97, which was one of the strongest El nino years, now they are predicting another strong year and this happens... Just saying.
"The sun's interaction with earth causes temperature flux, earthquakes, volcanoes and storms."
is a relatively MEANINGLESS statement. The sun's interaction with earth caused 7+ billion humans. It's what we're causing that is meaningful, not only to us but possibly most spieces (flora and fauna) on this planet.
my two cents: anthropocene.
(having trouble figuring how your reply is germaine J in Vegas, can you elaborate?)
"it will stabilise nicely once the over-population problem solves itself."
Phew, glad there's no chance of it stabilizing not-nicely.
Anyone for tennis?
Hurricanes intensify over warm ocean waters. While scientists do not expect more hurricanes due to AGW, they do expect them to become stronger on average simply because of increases in sea-surface temperatures.
There, happy?
More El Nino than AGW. Milankovitch has us in an inter-glacial period.
+1.000 for referencing the Milankovitch cycle.
It would benefit our politicians and media whores to understand it as well.
Sorry, contrary science does not fit the narrative. Throw in what we know about the Maunder Minimum and the current weak solar cycle and we could hear a different tune if anyone was really interested in the truth.
You know what, all that science you mention has been part of the global warming conversation from the start. All of it, in detail, from the start. It was the first thing anyone looked at.
It's not contrary science at all, was not ignored, but it also didn't change anyone's mind.
That's the narrative. Adjust your propaganda accordingly.
Not ignored, but didn't change anyone's mind, either?
So kinda like if it was ignored, then? Define ignore: fail to consider, reject as groundless, refuse to take notice of... Sure sounds like its been ignored!
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” Upton SinclairDidn't ignore it means it's part of the decision tree. Part of the models. Part of the math. Part of the discussion. Part of the peer reviewed publication record. Part of everything.
For all that, didn't matter as much as unsequestering 1 gigaton of stored carbon.
That's how science works. It's called principal component analysis; making no assumptions in advance just throw everything in and see what actually matters, take the important stuff and move on from there. The things that don't matter nearly as much are still interesting, but you can focus on on a smaller problem set instead of trying to make everyone your friend.
All of science is that way.
That's what Piltdown Man told me.
Piltdown Man was a fraud, revealed as such via investigative methods.
Science won.
Less can be said of Jesus as the son of God though I'm okay with people thinking what they want to if it means they can keep their shit wired up and don't try to kill me with any of their 300 million guns.
Dang but it's hazardous being right all the time.
Before science proved that Piltdown Man was a fraud science upheld the validity of Piltdown Man for decades. The same thing will likely happen with so called "global warming" which as I showed you yesterday is demonstrably untrue.
I don't believe in Jesus but I can see how you might be envious about how popular his religion is in comparison to your own. But give it time, maybe Michael Mann will walk upon the waters and cool the tempestuous seas.
In the areas where science holds, science always wins.
AGW is sceince, and the science is correct. You can scream and cry all you want but the slow, grinding gears of human thought are turning and you are already vastly incorrect.
Pity though, it won't even matter in the end for we are already un-made. It was all too late.
So yours is an end time religion? Fascinating.
Get me an anthropologist, stat!
These spurious arguements thrown up (the climate always changes-yeah so, mideaval warming period-yeeah so, and here Piltdown Man-yeah so) demonstrate some people's inability to understand the exponential function. What used to take four decades to wade through (Piltdown Man) can now be done in a relative flash. There were about 1 billion people living on earth in 1912 when Piltdown Man arrived on the scene...
When Flakmeister says "write a paper" he's pointing to the idea that in this age of 'getting worse...faster', AGW would be in the dustbin of history already, yet the opposite is happening. This is not to imply that nothing remains to be discovered...
The same reasoning applies to 'chemtrails' and HAARP, but in reverse: if they were implicated in say the Cali drought, the data would be all.over.the.place. And talk about USA centric - oh-emm-gee! (I'm stealing that)
Radical Marijuana is the only one I've met with a DECENT argument - how the dominant philosophy of science came to be the dominant philosophy of science, and everything that goes with that. It's more of a feeling, I think AGW is THE gateway to a new dominant philosophy of science???
Carbon build up in the atmosphere is a trailing indicator of historic global warming periods. It doesn't predict warming. There is plenty of data showing man made Jet Stream anomolies over the Eastern Pacific and Western North America, but you will never see it if you don't take a look, will you?
If the Milankovitch cycles are the dominant forcing then C02 levels are a feedback. 500 Gigatonnes of net anthropogenic C02 over the past 150 years blows away the piddling forcing that drove the Ice Ages over the past 800,000 years...
It's called science and it works, bitchez...
How would you know about being right all the time when you are wrong on this topic?
And you have done nothing to demonstrate that...
+1
AGW = Big $$$$
Just like endless wars and looting countries especially their gold holdings. See Libya and Ukraine. .
Follow the money. Always follow the money. AGW is about grants, carbon taxes, $$$, more $$$ and lies. Billions and billions of $$$.
Sure this one is El Nino, no question. It was more of a general question about hurricanes and AGW.
Larry is AFF. Assume he resides in Dallas so
Seems they will be blown across the border at 200MPH
Most immigrants these days are from Asia. Look it up.
Mexicans are not breeding like before, and they are getting old, and understand how screwed up the USA is.
Any wall on the border will be to keep gringos in, not latinos out.
Word's out in Spanish I here.
Que?
Quoi ?
I looked it up, you must not have.
"China, the Philippines, Korea and Vietnam are among the top 10 countries of origin for the Asian illegal immigrant population, which has remained stable at 1.3 million -- about 11 percent of all undocumented immigrants."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/11/21/7-charts-that-...
The most powerfull storms were in the 1960's...so is "Global Warming"...ooops, sorry, strike that..."Global Climate Change" causing a reduction in the number of severe storms....seems like someone screeched the opposite...
Climate change will cause storms, hurricanes and tropical storms to become more intense."Scientists say...."
http://www.nature.org/ourinitiatives/urgentissues/global-warming-climate...
i wonder if the record storms in the '60s were at least partly the result of all of the nuclear bomb tests...
Real Hurricanes names William, Alan, George, Ben, Barack, Janet ..............
Also Tropical Storm Stanley Fischer.
"That should stop the flow of illegal immigrants from coming over for a while."
Are you kidding?! It'll push them up here FASTER!
Live Video feed from Puerto Vallarta beach
Patricia could completely wipe out Fresnillo's 65 million oz of silver production...
Mexican drug lord, El Chapo, has already built a well-ventilated mile long tunnel to escape from the hurricane
Surf's up!
CHARLIE DON'T SURF !!!
Banzai Pipeline!
Wait until it crosses into the Gulf and re-strenghtens
Would be great if it took out some refineries and tank farms.
If that happens either Texas or Louisiana will be toast
Thery're calling for flooding in Texas
Noticed yesterday suddenly there is a "hurricane evacuation route" sign on one of the highways I take to work here south of Dallas. Had to laugh.
1 hour East of Dallas. Got some nice puddles building up and the pond filled up nicely.
The languishing oil industry could use a write off!
only a thousand miles of land and two mountain ranges left to stop it, good call!
Here you go-a map
very cool thanks
wow, it's beautiful!
OMG, the planet is covered with Centipeds !!!
Just move to safety, there is nothing better one can do. This is gonna suck for lots of people
Just declare it a Wind Free Zone. Seems to work for... wait, never mind.
Do you realize how many Mexican Restaurants you are going to put out of business???
We should send all of our politicians, bankers, lawyers, and stock market pros down there to help out. Drop 'em all into the eye of the storm so they don't miss any of the action.
That's a great suggestion, an all expense paid "fact finding" junket for all 535 Congrescritters to Puerto Vallharta to study immigration issues...plane leaves at 5:00, no need to pack a bag.
Krugman applauds the jobs that will be created as a result. Maybe the mass migration will reverse.