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This Is What It Took To Get The S&P 500 "Back To Even" For 2015

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Great news... US equity market investors (judging by the S&P 500) have now lost no money this year (and have made no money). All it took to get stocks "back to even" for 2015 was... no Fed hike, more ECB QE and more negative rates, China rate cuts, and negative EPS growth. What more do you need to BTFD? 

These are your "markets"...

 

Feeling "wealthy"?

Chart: Bloomberg

 

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Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:40 | 6702354 NoDebt
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Air is awful thin up here.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:42 | 6702356 Hype Alert
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Got to keep that $4Trillion+ investment from seeing any deflation.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:44 | 6702368 El Oregonian
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Back to even? pfft, like kiss'in your sister...

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:49 | 6702380 Pool Shark
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AMZN now officially trading at a P/E of 900

Sustainable?

Who cares,... BUY, BUY, BUY!!!

 

[NIRP, here we come...]

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:53 | 6702400 adr
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SO what the market is saying is Amazon will be around in the year 3000 and finally be profitable!!!!!

Awesome. That is one mighty buy and hold strategy, but damn. Imagine if you would have bought ten shares of Cheshire Mutton in 1000 A.D.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 13:44 | 6703250 Muppet
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900?   Per Nasdaq/Kiplinger 4 days ago it was 150.

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/good-stocks-crazy-valuations-should-you-bu...

 

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:48 | 6702381 TeamDepends
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Here's some good news! Expect ebola to rear its ugly head soon because everything is about to turn to shit.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:52 | 6702396 Handful of Dust
Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:47 | 6702644 Baa baa
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That's what I named my boat (Ebola, driven by wind) and it is wonderful how little people screw with me. Even the CG blew off a safety when the name came up. I think they were laughing too hard.

Just an aside....

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 11:03 | 6702709 Arnold
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I'm on 'Biltto Burn III'.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:21 | 6702503 BullyBearish
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STFR...

Dollar blasting off, lift off ensured, you'll be sorry you didn't start building short positions at this once in a lifetime moment

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:42 | 6702359 MadVladtheconquerer
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Don't bite the Fed!

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:23 | 6702523 BullyBearish
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Exactly...the fed is telling you they're going to be tightening and no matter what they say, once started the rate increases will come continuously over the next 1-2 years

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:41 | 6702624 Baa baa
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If I am really nice and give them my address, can I get them to mail me some of that newly printed stuff?

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:43 | 6702361 Osmium
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Guess what?  There is a hell of a lot more where that came from too.  Unlimited fiat.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:43 | 6702362 Ronaldo
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Hell Yeah! Make money BABY!

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:49 | 6702365 Panafrican Funk...
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Meanwhile:

https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=2eXE

Could have sworn QE ended back in Oct. '14.  Why does M1 appear to be continuing to increase unabated?

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:44 | 6702367 taopraxis
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The market trend is sideways and that means everyone in the market is currently on the wrong side according to that old "don't fight the trend" rule. Alternatively, no one has been proven right or wrong. Flip a coin...

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:55 | 6702405 MadVladtheconquerer
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"Sideways" is not always a bad thing!  Esp Sandra Oh getting drilled while she was practically standing on her head.

 

 

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 11:43 | 6702851 herkomilchen
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Sandra Oh getting drilled while she was practically standing on her head

World needs moar of this.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:45 | 6702371 orangegeek
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rocketing USD - this won't end well

 

get your print on yellen, it's time to by 100% of the SPX to keep it up

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:50 | 6702387 FreeShitter
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Dow to 40k, everyone else get used to eating alpo (and thats the good shit)

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:37 | 6702602 Crocodile
Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:52 | 6702389 NubianSundance
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I admire pundits who make concrete forecasts, their forecasts can then be judged for accuracy.

1. Harry Dent - Dow 14k-15k by end of October.

2. Bo Polny - Big Dow Crash in November.

3. Gerald Celente - Big crash and meltdown by years end.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:54 | 6702399 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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It's enough to make you no longer believe in Harvey Dent.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:35 | 6702592 Crocodile
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Believe in no man; only Christ.  The biggest moral failure is rejecting such a great salvation.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:39 | 6702615 Baa baa
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THE RABBIT???

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:56 | 6702406 NubianSundance
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4. Gregory Mannerino - Big crash looming - this is a fools rally.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:02 | 6702425 SSRI Junkie
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5. past perfomance not indicative of future prognostications when one is going against unlimited fiat printing

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 12:54 | 6703107 LooseLee
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And lets not forget the fantasy-ground retarded bulls. But that list is just too long. Just tun on CNBC or Bloomberg for a litany of seers. Oh, that is the 'club' you obviously belong to. My bad. Apologies.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:52 | 6702392 yogibear
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The Fed has resorted to unsound measures to keep the game going. They'll impoverish the 90% to keep the 10% better off.

Bernnanke's book title should be "The Courage To Steal To Enrich My Too Big To Fail Wall Street Banker Buddies"

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 09:58 | 6702415 Kaiser Sousa
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i wonder how much they feel it will be necessary to shave off he phony paper prices of Gold and Silver today just to make sure we dont buy any more....

http://www.kitco.com/charts/livesilver.html

 

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:34 | 6702579 Crocodile
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Gold and silver are not relevant as far as price; they are a hedge and in time the truth of all things will be revealed and for many that will be terrible.  The currency war, turns to a trade war and then world war; that is the patteren of the Central Planners.  This war of all wars is building and everyone can "feel it"; because it was foretold by the ancient book that many neglect to their own demise in the end, for all die in time.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:02 | 6702430 adr
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All it took was fake money, fake earnings, and fake speeches.

If anyone missed it, South Park hung reality at the gallows in the latest episode. Butters asks everyone if they are sure about this, Randy says uh huh, and reality is hung.

Everything is about how PC has completely got out of hand, but it applies to the economy as well.

Reality crashes the party:

http://southpark.cc.com/clips/d4uxqq/reality-crashes-the-party#source=ff...

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:27 | 6702541 voltrader66
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Yes on average we made no money BUT all you ZeroRiskTakers lost a shit load on your S&P puts that you loaded up in August and September at 25+ Implied Vol(ha ha ha ha ha). S&P puts are awfully cheap now, along with gold and oil. I hope you guys are stocking up on MOAR puts and gold and are planning to emmigrate to Bulgaria. The land of the free and unspied upon...LOL.

Always wondered why there so much anti-American rhetoric on this site unitl I found out that it is based in Bulgaria. It makes sense now.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:29 | 6702549 Crocodile
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TROLL ALERT!!

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 11:05 | 6702731 teutonicate
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My advice to you is to go massively long on margin up here.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 12:52 | 6703089 Sparehead
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I have no idea what you consider anti-American, but I'd bet it differs significantly from the typical ZH'er definition. I don't consider myself "anti-American" at all. As for Eastern Europe, they do know firsthand what life is like when government dominates.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:28 | 6702546 Crocodile
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CEO year end performance bonuses are coming up; can't allow real declines in revenue and profits get in the way.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:32 | 6702565 Keltner Channel Surf
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Given the keys to a fully-stocked liquor cabinet by 'adults', kids now eyeing each other nervously, "is this a trap?"

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 10:52 | 6702681 Father Lucifer
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Fucking lunatics

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 11:02 | 6702715 teutonicate
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OK, we finally got our "tech pop" based on weak "click-stock" beats compared to dramatically lowered expectations.  And promises (not delivery) of a QE binge.

Given that markets are now starting to weaken a bit, makes you wonder what the bulls have for an encore.

I think I know, look out below.

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 14:05 | 6703319 r3ct1f13r
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Oh... I thought that was the encore.

Uhh, that means bass solo?

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 11:26 | 6702817 pebblewriter
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You left out the most important ingredient: ramping USDJPY back above the key .618 Fib level at 120.11.

All that other stuff matters.  But, at the end of the day, the yen carry trade is the single most powerful driver of stocks from day to day, moment to moment.  It has been for years.  I see it every single day, and can't figure out why no one's talking about it -- even the Tylers.

QE/QQE/PSPP are all relavant.  But, it's the signals sent by the easily manipulatable USDJPY that "markets" are taking their cues from.

Take 10 minutes to look at the charts in this post, and see if you don't agree.

http://pebblewriter.com/what-really-drives-stock-prices/

 

Fri, 10/23/2015 - 16:29 | 6703938 polo007
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http://realmoney.thestreet.com/articles/10/22/2015/more-qe-would-be-reward-banks

More QE Would Be a Reward to Banks

By Roger Arnold
 
Oct 22, 2015 | 4:00 PM EDT
 
In the past few months, I've written several columns concerning the recessionary trajectory the U.S. is on and how the Fed would respond if that continues.

Although a recession is not yet inevitable, the preparation for how the Fed will respond, if required, has begun.
 
On the recession issue, the Chicago Fed National Activity Index (CFNAI) released this morning validates the recessionary trajectory with the opening remarks of:

"The Chicago Fed National Activity Index ticked down to -0.37 in September from -0.39 in August. Two of the four broad categories of indicators that make up the index decreased from August, and all four categories made nonpositive contributions to the index in September" (emphasis is mine).
 
On the monetary response issue, as I discussed earlier this week in the column, "When Bad News Is Exactly That -- Bad," the San Francisco Federal Reserve Bank has already indicated that a probable response by the FOMC will be negative short-end rates coupled with another round of quantitative easing (QE).

As I discussed in 2011, monetary and fiscal policy come in two basic forms, pull through and push through, which may also be considered reward and punishment.
 
In that context, the implementation of another round of QE may be considered the pull through; a reward provided to the banks for agreeing to accept the push-through punishment of negative short-end rates.
 
The first issue to deal with is the potential structure of what another round of QE would involve and when it would be supplied.
 
The last round of QE involved the purchase of agency mortgage-backed securities. The idea was to allow the Fed to purchase what had become illiquid mortgage securities from the banks in order to provide the banks the capital necessary to make new mortgage loans and in the process drive the mortgage rates down to stimulate consumer demand for home purchases.
 
As I've noted previously, that structure required approval by the U.S. Treasury, and the next round of QE will, too, because the Fed's mandate has not been expanded by Congress to allow it the opportunity to purchase other than Treasury securities without first getting approval from the Treasury secretary.

 
The next round of QE will likely require the Fed to go beyond mortgage securities and into purchasing other kinds of bank loans that will likely become illiquid as a result of the economic deterioration.
 
Those loans will likely be concentrated in autos, commercial real estate mortgages and commercial and industrial.
 
This, too, will require Treasury secretary approval.
 
However, it is also likely the Fed will use the potential for it to expand into those areas by requesting that the executive and legislative branches coordinate and supply a fiscal response this time that is complementary to the goals of the monetary efforts.
 
In addition to requiring the fiscal support, the Fed will require the banks to agree to accept negative short-end rates in order for a round of QE targeted at these other kinds of loans.
 
The next issue concerns the timing of the Fed moving forward with a round of QE structured this way.
 
Until the bankers agree to accept the negative short-end rates and the government agrees to provide a complementary fiscal response, the Fed will wait to implement the next round of QE, even if the Treasury secretary approves.
 
The executive and legislative branches won't have the political support necessary to coordinate and respond with a complementary fiscal stimulus package, however, until there's been enough of a deterioration in economic activity and capital markets to afford for such.
 

That's a normal part of the political process, though, as there is too much risk to the continued viability for re-election faced by individual legislators to warrant even attempting a pre-emptive fiscal stimulus measure.
 
A fiscal package is only politically viable as a reaction to economic and market events that have already caused the electorate to not only acquiesce to the necessity of it, but request it.
 

The most important part of this process for investors, as I wrote about earlier this week, is that the current expectation of a pre-emptive monetary response to market instability or weak economic reports indicating an imminent contraction in private-sector activity is imprudent.
 
The Fed is telegraphing its willingness to supply a monetary response as the legislative mandate requires, but the experience of the past seven years has also proved that a monetary response provided in the absence of complementary fiscal measures is not just inviable but actually counterproductive.
 
At this stage, the most likely catalyst for encouraging the required response by bankers and fiscal authorities will be a decline in oil prices, but it may instead first be evidenced by continuing deterioration in the biotechnology and technology sectors.

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