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Russia Releases Dramatic Assessment Of ISIS Strikes, As US Sees "Little Green Men" In Syria
On Thursday, in “Russia, Assad Plan New Elections In Syria As US, Saudis Meet Lavrov In Vienna,” we brought you the latest on the push for a “political”, “diplomatic” solution to Syria’s civil war.
The official line is that The Kremlin has convinced Bashar al-Assad to call for elections and to be open to working with the opposition to form a new government. Meanwhile, John Kerry says he intends to continue to hold talks with his counterparts from Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey in an effort to find a solution that’s workable and agreeable to everyone.
Of course if one reads between the lines, the story changes materially.
Assad won’t likely lose an election and here’s why, i) he still has some genuine support among the citizenry, ii) the Assad regime is probably looking pretty good right now in the minds of Syrians compared to the bloody anarchy that’s gripped the country for the last four years, and iii) no one is going to vote against a Mid-East strongman that they know is likely to return to power. So the election gambit is simply a way for Russia to legitimize its goal of restoring Assad.
Additionally, the talks between Kerry and his “friends” (as he calls them) amount to Russia throwing the US a kind of diplomatic lifeline. Moscow could very well refuse to talk to anyone (much as Washington has until now refused to talk to Moscow) and simply say “look, here’s how this is going to be, because you had your chance to overthrow this regime and you failed.” The Kremlin is simply allowing Washington, Riyadh, and Ankara to save face by making it appear as though there’s some kind of dialogue going on. This is farcical and thanks to the fact that Sergei Lavrov has a low tolerance for farcical charades, we got a look at the true nature of the talks in the post-summit press conference. Here’s Lavrov:
"Of course, there will be speculation. The speculation appeared before this meeting even took place. I heard that the rumors are being spread already that it has been agreed on in some place or another that in some period of time Assad will step down. This is not the case,"
There you go. That being the case, it’s not even clear what there was to discuss (as an aside, there’s something rather disconcerting about other nations meeting to decide the fate of a sovereign state in the first place).
Additionally, Moscow continued to call out Washington for not sharing intelligence and for branding certain rebel groups as “moderates.” In what probably amounts to a joke disguised as a serious suggestion, Lavrov said he’d be happy to provide airstrikes in support of The Free Syrian army (presumably as they fight extremists) if the US would be so kind as to identify the “the patriotic opposition.’”
Meanwhile, Russia has apparently deployed special forces to Syria. Here’s WSJ:
Russia has sent a few dozen special-operations troops to Syria in recent weeks, Russian and Western officials say, redeploying the elite units from Ukraine as the Kremlin shifts its focus to supporting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
“The special forces were pulled out of Ukraine and sent to Syria,“ a Russian Ministry of Defense official said, adding that they had been serving in territories in eastern Ukraine held by pro-Russia rebels. The official described them as “akin to a Delta Force,” the U.S. Army’s elite counterterrorism unit.
A senior Western official also said a contingent of elite Russian forces was on the ground in Syria from eastern Ukraine. A U.S. defense official said one of their roles is to provide coordination between Syrian troops and Russian aircraft conducting airstrikes in support of the regime’s ground offensive.
“The Russians are operating very closely with Syrian units,” the defense official said.
The Russian ministry official said the assets sent to Syria in recent weeks include the Zaslon unit, trained to protect diplomatic assets and personnel. Nearly two dozen Russian military-intelligence officers are also on site to liaise with Mr. Assad’s military intelligence, the official said.
“There certainly are ‘little green men’ in Syria,” the U.S. defense official said.
On that note, we leave you with the following graphics from Sputnik which map Russian airstrikes and aggregate the damage Moscow’s warplanes have inflicted on ISIS targets.
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US had over 6700 airstrikes against ISIS over a year and achieved not even a dent in ISIS's capability. And Russia has significantly degraded ISIS with 669 missions.
The Nobel Prize Winner was showering care packages and ammunition palattes over ISIS increasing its capabilities
Poll shows 81 percent of Syrians believe US created ISIShttps://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/09/18/isis-s18.html
you can't really have a decent World War(I mean one that really good movies can be made about in the future) unless people really start to take killing seriously and get down to business
USSA = ISIS proxy Army. Everything else is just commentary.
“There certainly are ‘little green men’ in Syria"
Haha... so funny...
...wow that was a gut buster. Does this "defense official" have anymore?
If their drones are so good at auto-detecting green camouflage on the ground why couldn't they pick up white Nike sneakers? Or the Toyota convoys?
No doubt the green camouflage is used to warn uncle satan's drones to not take pot shots at embedded Russians or risk WWIII, but this degenerate is too fucking stupid to realize that.
An election in Syria will only take place in secure areas where Assad has support. Any other location would be to dangerous. Assad would likely choose his challenger anyway.
I'll bet Obama and the USSA state dept are still pissed at Putin because he didn't tweet his plans in advance.
Jews negociating with Christians, one side trying to figure out the next deception, the other trying to be more honest and stand on principle. Were so fucked in Sean Hannity land...
What?
There are prospects for an elected government that does not include a puppet of ours?
We will not stand for that.
How many ways can you say “Assad must go”?
remember the time line of the jews, netanyahu shows up in congress gets a rousing applause, days later gets voted a big fuck you, travels to russia to make deal with putin, one month later putin takes over where we feared to tread. there is only one group running the show of the take over of iraq oil, and the invasion of europe. our bankers our media owners our lawyers our masters the jews.
Putin is supporting Assad instead of sacrificing the country to Sunni sectarians.
How exactly does that benefit Israel? A stable government in Syria (or in any country with land between the Nile and the Euphrates for that matter) is not what Israel wants as far as I can see.
nor the u.s. department of defense under rumsfeld and wolfowitz, according to general wesley clark:
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=23524
"US had over 6700 airstrikes against ISIS over a year and achieved not even a dent"
Its all about "inventory turnover" for the MIC, kiddies.
"we got to move those microwave ovens,
custom-kitchen delivery...,
we got to move 'doz refigerators,
we got to move 'doz color tvs......"
'that ain't "workin'"....
well they have switched violence providers in an alliance for iraqi oil, wipe out more iraqis with isis (create a crisis manage the crisis) then wipe out isis. russia gets syria and all europe under its energy stranglehold and a larger role in the region with iraqi control after america bugs out and they tie up with iran cutting off saudi arabia from a land route north. what do the jews get? back to the rothschilds playbook, banking banking and more banking enslaving every government to debt created out of thin air, what did the jews get out of the iraq war? afghanistan? a united states 19 trillion dollars in debt, they are just moving on to the next host because the usa is tapped out, the next host is china and russia and we are paying them to stick the knife in our backs. they have been at it a long time and the playbook has been refined to perfection.
I was just going to pass on your post until you made fun of Hannity, way to finish strong!
I was just going to pass on your post until you made fun of Hannity, way to finish strong!
those 6700 airstrikes were just bombing sand, power stations and hospitals, no ISIS were harmed in the production.
Yeah wishful thinker anything else you would like to add in your tirade ?
"So the election gambit is simply a way for Russia to legitimize its goal of restoring Assad".
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What means "restoring Assad"?!
Assad was overthrown? Assad right now it Is not the only one legitimate authority in Syria?
What about "restoring Obama" or "restoring Cameron"?
restore as in repair or renovate (a building, work of art, vehicle, etc.) so as to return it to its original condition.
with assad that makes some sense since his hold on power has been so seriously challenged by the empire.
i'm not sure about cameron but obama is what he is; restoring him could only mean bringing back the chimera who was to get a nobel peace prize basically for not being george bush and for being partially african.
who really wants that?
I think it would be quite the comedy if Assad lost the election and his successor STILL told Qatar to stick their pipeline where the sun don't shine! :>D
Bullshit link. Td
The US arming of ISIS
For his part, US Deputy Under Secretary of State Anthony Blinken insisted that Washington and its allies are pursuing a “winning strategy,” and that it would succeed “if we remain united, determined and focused.”
Over the past several weeks, this “winning strategy” has seen ISIS capture Ramadi, the capital of Iraq’s Anbar province, as well as the historic city of Palmyra in Syria. In the past few days, ISIS forces have advanced into Aleppo province in Syria, overrunning rival Islamist militias and Syrian government troops as well. This offensive has proceeded without any interference from US and allied warplanes supposedly waging an air war against ISIS.
“Focused” is scarcely a word that any objective observer would use to describe US policy in the region. While claiming to be committed to a war against ISIS, Washington and its regional allies have time and again proven themselves to be its principal sources of strength.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/06/03/pers-j03.html
ISIS is the next USSA interation of Al Queda, a terrorist bogeyman created to scare the sheeple into paying higher taxes for defence while further reducing civil liberties.
They will come up with a new name eventually for fake ISIS. Total joke just like the USSA. I have a lot of respect for Russia and the Syrian people and Syrian Army. They refuse to bow to the NWO/ZWO.
Yes, ISIS is already being rebranded as the Syrian Rebels. I doubt that this will help since Putin has shown the man behind the curtain, the real puppetmaster of the manufactured Islamic Terrorist Threat, the CIA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enSCRD0iB-k
to just observing:
"For his part, US Deputy Under Secretary of State Anthony Blinken insisted that Washington and its allies are pursuing a “winning strategy,” and that it would succeed “if we remain united, determined and focused.”"
couldn't find out if mr. blinken had israeli citizenship, he would certainly qualify. i doubt antony really believes any of this. i think there's a wink in blinken, and a nod.
Whilst the US has [allegedly] been bombing ISIS for over a year, ISIS has only grown and gained more ground in Syria. A few months ago ISIS took over the ancient city of Palmyra in Syria, a UNESCO world heritage-listed site.
The US sees the Syrian state as one of the last spheres of Russian influence beyond the borders of the former Soviet Union, and a threat to its Israeli ally in the region. The presence of ISIS and other terrorists groups serves these interests. The US has a history of using terrorism to topple governments friendly to Russia. Al Qaeda itself was borne of the US objective to topple the Soviet friendly government of Afghanistan. The dismemberment of Russian-friendly Serbia and the creation of Kosovo was done via the same means.
More recently ISIS was a direct result of the US’s intervention in Iraq, and have only arrived in Libya and Syria in the wake of overt US-backed regime change efforts there. Although Libya and Iraq did not have relations with Russia as strong as Syria’s, Russia was still their main weapons supplier. It is therefore not surprising that since Russia entered the war in Syria, Saudi clerics and the Muslim Brotherhood – both US state assets – declared ‘jihad’ on Russia.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-russia-is-serious-about-fighting-terror...
More Global Research - Israeli IDF Colonel Leading ISIS Terrorists Arrested in Iraq "“The Israeli colonel’s name is Yusi Oulen Shahak and is ranked colonel in Golani Brigade of the Zionist regime’s army with the security and military code of Re34356578765az231434.”
Google his name. It is now widely reported, but not in the U.S. It will be interesting to watch and see how long they can keep a lid on this, especially considering that he is being 'interrogated' by Iraqi security forces.
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940730000210
"The security and popular forces have held captive an Israeli colonel," a commander of Iraq's popular mobilization forces said on Thursday.
"The Zionist officer is ranked colonel and had participated in the Takfiri ISIL group's terrorist operations," he added.
Noting that he was arrested along with a number of ISIL terrorists, the commander said, "The Israeli colonel's name is Yusi Oulen Shahak and is ranked colonel in Golani Brigade of the Zionist regime's army with the security and military code of Re34356578765az231434."
He said that the relevant bodies are now interrogating the Israeli colonel to understand the reasons behind his fighting alongside the ISIL forces and the presence of other Zionist officers among ISIL terrorists.
The Iraqi security forces said the captured colonel has already made shocking confessions.
Several ISIL militants arrested in the last one year had already confessed that Israeli agents from Mossad and other Israeli espionage and intelligence bodies were present in the first wave of ISIL attacks on Iraq and capture of Mosul in Summer 2014, but no ranking Israeli agent had been arrested.
Political and military experts told FNA that the capture of the Israeli colonel will leave a grave impact on Iraq's war strategy, including partnership with Israeli allies.
In a relevant development in July, Iraqi volunteer forces announced that they had shot down a drone that was spying on the Arab country's security forces in the city of Fallujah, Western Iraq.
Iraq's popular forces reported that they had brought down a hostile surveillance aircraft over the Southeastern Fallujah in Anbar Province.
They said that the wreckage of the ISIL's spy drone carried 'Israel-Made' labels.
This was not the first Israeli-made drone downed in Iraq.
In August an Israeli Hermes drone was shot down in the vicinity of Baghdad Airport.
the story about the israeli colonel is all over the internet but no msm. the only "other" source is israeli:
The site "Deepresource" is showing a picture of this Yusi Oulen Shahak and guess what. They show a picture of Sgt Oron Shaul who died.
www.jerusalemonline.com/.../23.10.2015-weekly-news-from-israel-16623
this is all i can get as the link is not related to the story as far as i can tell. anyone who can clarify?
That's an interesting sounding story, but the link seems dead ...
That can be compensated by getting those with Facebook Accts to repost those links in discussion threads at News/Discussion/TalkingHead FBPages(w/o spamming) and/or sharing it on their pages - even if FB is modifying their newsfeed algorithms all the time.
NonMSM-Alternative News/Talking Heads Pages to join up and discuss nice tidbits of facts in...
Mother Jones, Amy Goodman/Democracy Now!, Rolling Stone, INFOWARS, Jesse Ventura, Counterpunch, Left Hook, and the obligatory Foreign News Sites(RT/Sputnik/Spiegel/France24)
I'd wonder if the alleged IDF Adviser's news would last if posted on JPost/Ha'Aretz/Y'net
According to Russian sources, ISIS's chief was seriously wounded in Iraq and taken by CIA to Turkey for medical treatment.
And what percentage of AMERICANS believe the US created ISIS?
Does it matter, when 40% of Americans can't even read a bus schedule? If I was Kerry, I'd hire Kim Kardashian to become the spokesperson for ISIS, to re rehabilitate their image. I'd also have ISIS hire McCain for comedic relief.
I thought Kim Kardashian was Secretary of State
You been reading MSM newspaper articles ... easily done :-)
Next you'll be saying that Bono isn't the UN secretary-general.
to o r c k: at last poll 30% to 40% believed saddam did 9-11. about 4% believed the u.s. government did.
too much teevee.
but in their defense some 40% or so thought there was a cover up, that we took a hit we knew was coming, and further investigation should be made. if trump says he wants a second investigation, no holds barred, i'll vote for him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_conspiracy_theories
No, her ass is.
It is an easy mistake to make. You think you are looking at a horse, and it is an ass all the time.
not bad, really.
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Only difference of McCain direct ISIS employment from current consultantcy role as ISIS lobbyist: svidomite Bandera fellator Ukropsi would need hire replacement Washingtonova prostitute.
Perhaps senator Ms. Lindsey Graham has an opening found accommodating to Lyashko.
I'm surprised to see you.
Your bot is still in turing trials I see.
Nice. LL and bz7
What percentage of Americans even give a damn as to what is done in their name? Really!
25%
USSA empire currently in "checkmate"....until Israel false flags another event.
I am sure that Hollywood is helping them to develop the next terrorist blockbuster, involving nasty Iranians, dirty pro syrian traitors, and Assad as a puppet of Dr. Supreme Evil, aka the Putinator (the villain who wants to take away your rights to bust blast your buddies while shooting heroin, courtesy of CIA/Afghanistan).
I'm thinking time to switch continents. South American is a ready made quagmire to get involved in. Just put up a big fence in Panama and go for it.
You have a point there. False flag or not, time is not in anyone's side.
Iraq will become the next “Sunni” Babylonia.
Google “Gog of the land of Magog”.
its not "farcical";
Its called "diplomacy" -a characteristic of the US "Dept of State" that has been long absent since prior to the Madeline Albright era.
It says alot that nobody in the USA can recognize diplomacy under their very nose. And we all wonder why the rest of the worlds considers us "arrogant"
Russia can keep Putin. Lavrov 2016.
Lavrov is a class act, when he met Kerry to discuss Ukraine last winter after the Super Bowl and said: "I'm always happy when the Patriots beat the Hawks" - priceless!!
reminds me of what another foreign secretary and russian, vyacheslav molotov (of cocktail fame) is reputed to have said when asked how would history have been different if krushchev had been assassinated instead of kennedy: i doubt aristotle onassis would have married the widow krushchev.
in all fairness this is attributed to about a dozen others.
Obama, Kerry and our other NWO rulers do not want to degrade ISIS because degenerates stick together.
"1yr, 6,700 airstrikes & $4bn after Obama vowed to ‘destroy’ ISIS, jihadists still on offensive" It achieved what it was supposed to use up munitions and buy more with debt. Gotta keep increasing the Debt or it all falls down.
Why would anyone believe what the WSJ says?
The story line in Syria for the US resembles Joseph Heller's Masterpiece - Catch 22
where the fake bombing runs allowed supplies to be delivered to the enemy by the enterprising Major Major and crew - Egyptian cotton traded for French wine, eggs and ammunition - endless trades - no one was supposed to win since that would end the profit and the fun!
Great reference Omen IV!
But I want to come to the defense of Major Major Major Major. It was Milo Minderbinder who masterminded the operations of the syndicate. MMMM just wanted to be left alone I believe!
he and nately's whore.
ISIS only needs stingers & antitanks to make it really interesting? er funny
"He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword"
Sleep on that thought.
Someone should tell Kerry these are not his "counterparts". He's their bitch
his parts will be left on the counter.
Great job Russia! I am so glad that Putin is doing something...
Having grown up in the Cold War, learning at school to put my head between my knees in the event of a nuclear blast, it is supremely ironic for me that I am cheering on the Russians against our fascistic USSA.
"Having grown up in the Cold War, learning at school to put my head between my knees in the event of a nuclear blast," You must have grown up in 1950 or early 1960s, which makes you part of "baby boomer" generation and at around 65 years old! So you're a "grandpa" who writes on a fringe blog(!) using terminology I've not heard from anyone over 30! Plus that profile photo? Very revealing. Are you a 65 year old masquarading as a 25 year old? Or 65 year old with a brain of 5 eyar old? Or a 25 year old with a brain of a 5 year old who's getting paid by Putin and getting mixed up in your lies? I bet it's the latter.
and your contribution to the discussion is what again?
It's noble of bthunder to drag himself away from jacking off to child porn long enough to bestow upon us his acute insights as to where the rest of are going wrong. What a fuckhead.
That has to be a new low on ZH. This place attracts douchebags like flies to shit.
What's your problem, Bthunder?
Never heard of a dirty old man/viejo verde who likes to 'socialize' with under 30 year old Latina's?
If you spent more time outside between your masturbation breaks, you might meet a real woman some day. You would be surprised what you can learn from talking to a real live female, instead of a cheap blow up doll.
Very true but, unfortunately for you, you cannot learn anything from anyone (other than your FSB talking poin writers) because you spend at least 18 hours/day commenting on this blog. Unles of course you're saving the money that Moscow pays you to buy a blowup doll sometime later. And since this blog once was a financial blog, here's a free finanacial advice: don't keep your savings in russian rubles or in a russian bank.
Gee, I must be so important that I have my own tracking troll, counting the hours per day that I supposedly spend on this Blog.../sarc off.
Seriously, it amuses me to post here from time to time, but I sure as heck don't get paid for it. As for you, I truly feel sorry for anyone who has to waste their time monitoring what I am supposedly doing.
Some reasons why I live in South America, and am in "love" with the local ladies:
http://www.bestpornpictures.com/latina/
Kinda fat and slutty. Go to Asia. But to each his own.
"Kinda fat and slutty."
They have their bad points too! :)
As I said to each his own, but I saved this URL from a long ago post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw9CALKOvAI
thanks. reminds me of early dylan.
I'm late - checkout the archives, eh, but a good comment. I'm from the 50-60s so I know early Dylan..
Thank you for sharing.
They are still giving interest on your savings unlike murikan banks sitting at 0%.
In answer to your comment:
"And since this blog once was a financial blog, here's a free finanacial advice"
We once had a financial system, but it has now become a pathetic joke.
Consequently, many of us started a journey to find out why. What we learned has taken us into the intricate world of International finance and how we are all being used and manipulated. We see how the entire world is being plundered and ripped apart by these financial monsters known as Central Banks, as they finance wars and gradually impoverish us by creating money from thin air and use it to buy up & control the real hard assets of nations.
You should be thankful for those of us who have lived a long life, and paid enough attention along our journey to amass a certain degree of understanding, and come here both as seekers and as sharers of insights gained along the way. Many senior posters are retired and have the time to be heavily involved with this site. They also tend to have the most knowledge and clear insight to what is really going on. Are there trolls? Could some possibly be paid? Probably so, but they don't have much to actually contribute, and quickly lose any credibility.
Remember, there is a vast difference between being smart or intelligent, and being wise. Many very smart people never seem to gain wisdom.
+1000, Brother.
Well, then your wisdom alarmbells should be going off.
I lose respect for any site that becomes ravingly one-sided - especially on the political front. I've always concidered myself independent in thought. That means arguing with all and any and I don't hold on to values or ideas without challenging them time and again and be prepared to learn from others. We know the world is a mess of grey, yet we categorise in black and white. This place has lost its capability to see the grey and has increasingly started to push a very one-sided political agenda. Intellectually mature people should be capable to gain distance and perspective from that.
i particularly liked your intellectually mature and distant perspective, finely distinguishing shades of grey, regarding zh above:
"This place attracts douchebags like flies to shit."
that is some nuanced insight.
Well, my little German treasure, which "side" has the Hedge become ravingly one-sided in favor of?
I think most here have come to realize that when it comes to political 'sides', the parties have us meaninglessly going at one another while they take turns picking our pockets. So, the my side v. your side gets shouted down pretty quickly.
If you are talking about what some see as 'Putin Love', it is has also been explained over and over that it isn't so much a love for Putin as it is disgust and revulsion at what our so-called leadership has foisted onto America. We long for a clearly patriotic, strong leader to get us back onto the path America once followed, instead of this rotten and corrupt war-mongering, crony capitalist shit hole we have devolved into.
Or, maybe it is the fact that we are coming to the realization that our financial system is controlled by forces outside America's boundaries - forces that do not seem to have the interest of this country ahead of all others. An awakening to the deep penetration of government agencies and the MIC by dual citizens with interests that are out of sync with the best interests of America.
Please Schatzi, for the sake of our relationship, clue us in on the one-sided slant you see when as waste your time here criticizing.
Thanks for getting us back on track. I hope.
Sorry. Should have gone under 11b40's post. Don't know how that happened.
The nesting seems screwed up.
Well said.
Spot on.
For me 2007-2008 was the "Great Awakening"... I was basically just a oblivious Zombie before ZH. I'd say 40% of my awakening was ZH articles, and 60% has been the comments (both for and against any topic).
Now I'm a terrified Zombie who sees the strings and hidden powers in the Matrix, which were always there.
The most painful thing is that so many friends and families remain oblivious Zombies despite any attempt to even gently steer them towards the truth.
The up side is being able to see things coming from way far off (even if sometimes worrying about events way too early).
Stick a splinter into their brainz, ask them to google "Mandrake Mechanism"
"And since this blog once was a financial blog"
Clue time:
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/political-economy.asp
The separation of politics from economics in academia is a recent phenomenon. They used to be considered as a single discipline and frankly, if you invest without regard to both, you will most certainly lose money, if not your shirt.
As for women, one of the few benefits of being older is that more women take an interest in you - that is, if you've learned anything along the way and don't present yourself as a complete dumbass.
As someone in the same age range with the same love for Latinas, I heartily concur with you.
there are a ton of trolls on this site and i usually ignore them. but what you just said was so fucking stupid i felt it necessary to reply.
ps
i don't think there's a straight man on the planet who doesn't like looking at big latina titties. just wish i could make that picture bigger.
Dude, could you also analyze me with your formidible Sherlockian skills? Specifically, what is my mental age, what age am I pretending to be, and which foreign government am I a paid troll for?
By the way, some men over 25 still enjoy pictures of nude hotties. I think your analysis has revealed more about you than about your target.
Being over 65 myself, I have watched this country turn to fascist nazi trash ever so slowly and is almost complete now. And no, Putin doesn't pay this boomer,,, this boomer has been giving well over a third of his earnings to the nincompoops of the generations that followed that have voted for every freebie bone thrown at them and the never ending wars nazi's like yourself conjure up.
And this addled brained boomer would like to know what a genius like yourself is doing on what you called a fringe site? Go back to sucking your thumb, or whatever, and let the adults do the posting.
Re: Fascist nazi trash:
Rejected, this is why I bugged out of the USSA. In south america, the government leaves you alone, and any problems with the police can be settled with a contribution to the uniform fund.
Further, my dollars stretch much farther, there are no ex wives to threaten me with re opening divorce settlements, and the local honey's don't mind fraternizing with grandpa's. This is kinda like Vietnam in the '60 except there are no asshole non com's to piss in your cheerios, and the locals actually like you.
Got it. But Asia is better (IMO). Wish I could get out like you.
For example.
Last year, Russia liberalized gun control laws massively. Now any Russian can own a shotgun for self defense purposes, and after 5 years of (I assume responsible ownership) can own a rifle.
e.g.
http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/michaelschaus/2014/11/21/vladimir...
Young people as a group have a very bad habit of thinking that they thought of ___________ first. They are almost always wrong. They did not event sex, music, slang... They certainly did not event thinking. Many older people get stuck in a rut, but they may be those that just don't think without being prompted (shoved).
USSA grade A Troll
Ain't it though? lol
I too grew up in that era. I too find it strange that Russia seems to be the good guy in this venture. And your right about Fascistic USSA. The time is fast approching that we will be forced to do something about that.
I guess you could say that the Russians are doing a job that Americans won't do. Good for them.
Good Call..........
Tyler Durden 10/11/2015--''For now, however, expect ISIS to gradually disappear from the mainstream media's front pages.''
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-11/end-isis-iraq-air-force-claims-...
Just like ebola, the pandemic that was going to get us all. Then it pretty much disappeared almost overnight.
As I write, the USSA is working on Ebola Version 2.0, the Return.
The US must have had something in mind in order to spend a heap of dough surrounding Russia with dodgy bioweapons labs.
For example, there are 2 in Ukraine, 1 just south east of Kiev and the other in Odessa. Another is in Khazakstan.
https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=Ebola
Here one day...admin appoints a (media) czar...gone the next.
That was an amazing display of MSM control. Obama appoints Klain as csar and Klain doesn't bother to show up at I think 2 emergency meetings.
It looks like he just called up his tribe buddies that control the fake media and told them to turn off ebola and that was that. If I had to guess what MSM has in the distraction cue it would be race riots like Ferguson. We haven't had that circus on in a while.
The U.S. cannot 'win' the verbal war of attacking the Russian targets, since it cannot identify targets for Russia to hit. And if it cannot identify targets for Russia, that might explain the lack of success the U.S. air attacks have had over the past year.
The latest ploy by the U.S. is to claim attacks on hospitals - with 3 claims in the past week. But as usual, their evidence look is fake and false flagged.
Of course it is fake, because no evidence is ever presented. Instead we hear endless propaganda from paid stooges posing as journalists. It is all BS, and the world is beginning to see through it.
No, we hear endless propaganda from paid stooges posing as BLOGGERS such as yourself
You see the tab at the top of your browser that says Zero Hedge in it? Now you see the little 'x' in that tab? Just click on that.
Hey bro, if you want to be a wanker, that's cool. Nobody really cares. Just don't be so vociferous about it.
“The special forces were pulled out of Ukraine and sent to Syria,“ a Russian Ministry of Defense official said, adding that they had been serving in territories in eastern Ukraine held by pro-Russia rebels.
But... But... But... But Moscow always insisted that there were NO Russian troops in Ukraine? Now that they've admitted that there were Russian army special forces in Ukraine, just do the entire civilized world a favor and admit that it was the russia army that shot down the Malaysian passenger aircraft. The evidence is in, no need to pretend anything. The unbrainwashed by Putin's bloggers world already knows.
Most countries observe a distinction between special forces and regular army forces, certainly the US and UK operate this way.
Ignore Bthunder. He/she/it slaves for the Ukie political clown class that claims Russia invaded the Ukraine. If Russia REALLY had invaded, Putin would be eating lunch in Kiev, dining in Lvov, while reading NATO tweets for belly laughs.
.......reported by the WSJ.............mouthpiece of Rupert Murdoch.......now thats a source I believe....../sarc
Exactly.
>> "a Russian Ministry of Defense official said"
Which Russian Ministry of Defense official said what? And When?
WSJ now sinking so low as to be publishing transparent lies instead of their former reliance on uncheckable innuendo.
WSJ = mouthpiece of liars who supply Sarin gas to try to create false flag happenings.
"But... But... But... But Moscow always insisted that there were NO Russian troops in Ukraine? Now that they've admitted that there were Russian army special forces in Ukraine, just do the entire civilized world a favor and admit that it was the russia army that shot down the Malaysian passenger aircraft."
bthunder, please take note of 1) the source (WSJ), 2) the fact the "Russian Ministry of Defense official" doesn't even have a name.
Which means it's all baloney. If you haven't understood by now that unnamed "officials" don't exist and that therefore, their statements are fabricated by your local Ministry of Truth, you're pretty thick. And that's an understatement.
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Citizen, your butthurt is acknowledged. Even lace panties visible. With a hole on the ass.
In the US free press tradition, "officials" nameless can tell anything imagined. Even more when selling expedient and benefitial tales.
WSJ? What an amazing and reliable source of information! I wallow...
The "Evidence" regarding the "Malaysian passenger aircraft' clearly shows the West shot down that plane...I would back up that statement with evidence, but the West refuses to release it...
From the Final Dutch Report:
"It should be noted that many pieces of the wreckage were not physically examined by the Dutch Safety Board until four months after the crash. During this period some parts were removed, therefore it was not possible to retrieve all wreckage pieces."
Who "removed" these "some parts"? Russia?...yeah, I don't think so...
Note they also don't specifically name these "missing pieces"...what's missing? Something irrelevant like the toilet paper roll holder, or something important like...WHAT?
The Dutch were allowed to examine the "pieces" that showed a Russian made missile brought down the plane...but the Black Box was taken to the UK...and the "missing pieces" held by "someone" for FOUR MONTHS, are well, still "missing".
Speculation here, and I'm no BUK expert...but common sense says these missiles have to have some sort of serial number for inventory purposes...any chance they found a "piece" of the wreckage containing a part of missile with that serial number? Pure speculation...but "missing pieces" opens the door wide open for speculation.
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"Weapons of Mass Destruction" stockpiles was used to rally the world against Saddam....SUCCESS!
Shooting down MH17 was done to rally the world against Russia in the Ukraine...FAIL!
The "Gas attack" in Syria was done to rally the world against Assad...FAIL!
It is really amazing, isn't it, that the most crucial pieces of evidence, the black box and ATC recordings, were never released after 16 months.
Meanwhile, when the Germanwings plane crashed, the recordings were released within 96 hours.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/03/europe/france-germanwings-plane-crash-...
If the black box recordings for MH17 revealed Russia's guilt, clowns like bthunder would be screaming it out, 24/7.
I think it ended up with four other black boxes that vanished somehow.
I remember looking into the 3 planes that went down after MH-17, and all the black boxes were recovered within a month and all pertinent information was released...
So what? I'm glad they are in the Ukraine. Ukraine is better going back to the Russian Federation than being enslaved by Jewish Oligarch Banksters. They will figure that out soon, and when the people regroup they will wholeheartedly beg to join the Russian federation.
Who wants to be enslaved by the West and turned into another Greece? Certainly not the Icelanders. They imprison their banksters. Iceland needs to invite the Russians in and set up a base before the Banksters regroup and attack them.
Advisors and trainers, bthunder, not troops. A couple of words in Russian that translate into "Special Forces" in English.
What did you think it really means? Wehrmacht?
NATO, the WSJ, and Fox accused Russia of having divisions or battalions in East Ukraine.
It was the Pentagon that first showed us the difference between US troops/boots on the ground and military trainers and advisors in other countries.
The Russian military in Donbas are absolutely no different from the US military advisors we saw in Vietnam in the 60's and working with the Free Syrian Army last month.
Isn't the virtually non existent Free Syrian Army now called The Syrian Democratic Forces? It can be difficult to keep up to date with the correct nomenclature.
The name is irrelevant. The real opposition in Syria signed a ceasefire with Assad in Geneva prior to Russia being invited in (Putin sure is thorough in his prepatory groundwork). The fighters are on Assad's side. That makes it easy for Russian forces aiding Assad. Anyone firing on the legitimate Syrian government's force is a western proxy force and a legitimiate target irrespective of name given to them by the western MSM.
Terrorist organisations were invented by the USA because US defense coporations needed a way to keep the money flowing in. Millions die to keep business good.
The Affordable Care Act was invented by the USA because the "Health Industry" also needed a way to keep the money flowing...Say what you want about the ACA...but when you boil it down, it ANNUALLY takes ~$100 BILLION of taxpayer money and DUMPS it blindly into the "Health Industry".
ObamaCare isn't "Socialism"; it doesn't set up Government Hospitals or Government Insurance Plans...ObamaCare Forces you into the clutches of PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANIES and PUTS MONEY IN THE POCKETS of those that can't pay...OBAMACARE IS CORPORATE WELFARE which is why it will not be "repealed" by either party.
Oh, sure, the Republicans are working "Real Hard" to repeal ObamaCare...because they KNOW they WILL NOT BE SUCCESSFULL as long as Obama has his veto pen...once Obama is gone, and if an R is in the Oval office, they won't try quite so hard for a repeal...mark my word on that.
Most Americans are too thick, distracted, med-saturated and programmed to realize the true ownership of "ISIS", who came out of nowhere in brand new Toyota trucks, straight from central casting and the prop department. They even had a strong PR push in the beginning with the phony beheading videos and other fake executions.
Try to get these same people to belive that Obama is a muslim who drops them ammunition from airplanes like gifts from Santa, and they'll blow a circuit.
So let's put this notion to bed once and for all...
Normally when a Country fights and dies for it's leadership (Assad has many interests and people that work for him) a leadership in this case is a sovereign Nation especially when unwanted influence is coming from outside through the use of "proxies" in this case that are paid through organized fascist oligarchic government(s) like the ones attempting to destroy Damascas for the last 4 years...
Not to be confused with a schizoid terminally ill Country who's populous is on meds and is indifferent to the continual rape, theft and murder everywhere else outside their own borders through elected "leaders" that swear oaths to a facade of words that are in opposition to their own criminality is nothing less than what you call a "democratic" regime known as the United States of America!
Just like the issue of Crimea I'm getting sick and tired of the misplaced retarded logic and unethical biased use of the word regime to castigate anyone that is not on "Cowboy Curtis'" side
Done!
ISIS may be fake: a collection of overpaid tax free MIC think tanks and .gov employees.
But the IRS agents, lawyers and judges who will take your stuff by force to pay for this deception and incompentence are most certainly not. (fake)
Iraq chooses Russia over US for strikes on ISIS.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iraq-authorises-russia-strike-islamic-...
This looks like it's one of the tactics used by US forces in Syria/Iraq to minimise any bombing damage to its ISIS terrorist friends:
from that article at http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iraq-authorises-russia-strike-islamic-...
" "They [the US-led coalition] refuse to strike private cars, mosques, bridges, schools despite the fact Daesh militants are mainly using these places as headquarters," a senior military officer [...] told MEE."
"The US-led rules, which enforces verification of targets, regularly give IS militants time to save their supplies, equipment and fighters, they said."
I don't see any similar constraint by US forces when it comes to bombing hospitals and wedding parties...
The funny part about that is the Russians are clapping each other on the back thinking...Look at this embassy the US built for us.
Putin has achieved in less than one month what Barack could never achieve.....................
Whata a horse's ass Obama truly is.....................
Careful ... I have a manureload more respect for horses' asses than I ever will for that fucking dumbshit obama.
It is not just Obola. It is the entire US Govt includes states, counties and cities. The endless alphabet agencies. Totally corrupt. The Pentagram too, MIC and their controllers and owners.
german news reports that isis is smuggling out oil via turkey.
wonder that this line still works with all that war on terror going on.
jazenjuc of ucraine said that russia wants to split europe by refugees.....
stupid news all around
on a side note : how to "smuggle" oil ..... line up a mile of lorry, hide them under harry potters cloak and done
Turkey loves ISIS since ISIS is killing Kurds.
ISIS is killing whomever they are told to kill, they are mercenaries
"War and Peace - revisited: Escobar
http://atimes.com/2015/10/war-and-peace-revisited-escobar/
"Perestroika and Glasnost" Tyme too realize all great empires come to an end? Just hit em in the pocketbook,...
http://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/perestroika-and-glasnost
What a PR coup -we need to release dailly videos showing our power. Let's show the world how we blew up a terrorist base set up in that Hospital in Afghanistan. Let them see all the terrorist weddings where we have unleashed our awesome power and destruction. Let them see all the potholes we have made in the middle of the Syrian desert - Let them see all the roads, bridges, power plants we have detroyed in Syria and Iraq. I think we even killed an ISIS guy once. There are photos of Israeli doctors trying to save him, but sadly, he passed away. Let the world see the power of America and quake in fear.
Russia got charts and graphs!
Russia will meet with Syria on how to move forward, on stopping isis, and stabilizing the future of Syria.
Kerry, "usa" will meet with s.a., and turkey to plan what's best for themselves in Syria, there's your 81% Syrian mistrust.
three's a misprint in the article, slight but telling, there's a difference between air-strikes, and air-drops.
I'm waiting for the line of moderate refugees to start backing up, going to e.u., and flood turkey.
Turkey," nato, usa", supplied the sarin gas used in Syria, 81% mistrust.
Its the jooooos.....and their stooge Barry. Drop bombs to make money for their friends and backers.The gas pipeline into Europe. Nothing more , nothing less. ISIS , another proxie CIA stooge army. Yawn.............
Hey Dork_Bartar/Hasbara troll
Spell it right now, ya' hear? It's 'JEWS' NOT 'JOOOOS'. Aw shucks, have some respect for yourself now!
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that the US government is owned by INTERNATIONAL BANKERS because they were given the monopoly power to create all of our money OUT OF THIN AIR!!!! AT INTEREST. As Jefferson said, 'first by inflation, then by deflation', the INTERNATIONAL BANKS SEIZE PROPERTY AND TAXES. Credit money created out of thin air, I mean deposits, is then itself deposited, becoming now a new deposit, and forming the basis for further creation of credit ad infinitum. The money owed back to the bankers grows each day because of interest while the original credit created never grows, thus the debts ALWAYS EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AVAILABLE TO SATSIFY THEM COMPLETELY. This leads to guaranteed bankruptcy from DAY ONE.
The Rothschilds, the richest of the bankers, funded the purchase of land from the native Arabs in Palestine and also arranged a deal to get the US into WWI in return for the Balfour declaration. These bankers continue to direct US foreign policy resulting in Israel getting BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF AID PER YEAR from the US taxpayer who ironically is made to borrow the money from the Jewish Bankers at interest!!
The INTERNATIONAL BANKERS, directed the US GOVERNMENT to ignore the theft by Israel of hundreds of pounds of enriched Uranium in 1966, and they directedc the US government to apply ZERO PRESSURE on Israel to open Dimona for inspection
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-suspected-israeli-involvement-in-1960s-uranium-theft-1407352852
http://lobelog.com/israels-stolen-nuclear-materials-why-it-still-matters/
Israel is led by the vicious, tribalist, and racist LIKUD PARTY; their Chief Rabbi Yosef in nationwide radio address in 2010, had these words for the MAJORITY of Israel Jews who support the Likud party Zionist/religious platoform (when he died in 2013, over a million mourners lined the streets of Jerusalem):
"Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”
“In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money."
“This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew.”
“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat… That is why gentiles were created.”
http://www.timesofisrael.com/5-of-ovadia-yosefs-most-controversial-quotations/
Now Dork, I don't mean to be disrepectful to you, but it is OBVIOUS that two groups of people, both contained in a very small set of people CALLED THE JEWS (and their several thousand non-Jew allies among the oligarchs), are FUNDAMENTALLY OPPOSED opposed to 1) NATURAL HUMAN RIGHTS (as in the right to earn REAL MONEY by ones own labor and that no individual that they do business with has the legal right to create said money out of nothing!!!!) and 2) the attendant ASPIRATION FOR THE FORMATION OF NATIONAL IDENTITY (you know, like the Swedes want to play the polka, Italians attend the opera, Germans drink beer, English swear and get rowdy....etc). This small groups of people would be NORMALLY IGNORED, MARGINALIZED, AND EVEN RIDICULED if not for the fact that one of these groups in the set of JEWS, the INTERNATION BANKERS as opposed to the racist rabid rabbis, OWN THE VERY MONEY WE NEED TO CARRY OUT OUR EVERYDAY TASKS, PROVIDE FOR OUR FAMILIES, AND RUN OUR GOVERNMENTS!!!!!!! These bankers now run Europe VIA THE EMF so no polical control has been entirely replaced by Banker control.
As for the religious part of this group, we see that Rabbi Yosef has declared war on Non Jews because he says THAN THE ONLY PURPOSE THAT NON JEWS HAVE IN LIFE IS TO TO SERVE JEWS!!!! Without serving Jews, 'they' (meaning non jews) have no purpose in life (in other words, have no reason to live and therefore can be killed WITHOUT REMOARSE OR GUILT !!!!). We see the constant murder of Palestinian teenagers trying to protect their land, by Israel soldiers; no remoarse is shown. None, Nada, Zip. We are seeing the face in these young IDF soldeirs that we saw in photos of Nazis killing slavs, jews, gypsies,...etc. Thus the MAJORITY OF THE RELIGIOUS ESTABLISHMENT OF ISRAEL IS AT WAR WITH NON JEWS
Ask a religious jew WHO IS ALSO A ZIONIST, about Rabbi Yosef's words that God intends non jews to serve jews and he will NOT CONTRADICT THEM!!!!
ZIONISM IS EQUIVALENT TO NAZISM, with the word Aryan replaced by the word Jew. Actually Zionism is worse because it employs religious justification for the underpinning of it's belief, not raw strength as in Nazisms. That is why Bibi admires Hitler in a sick way; Hitler exteminated undesirable groups in Germany while Bibi so far can only dream about exterminating Palestinians. In fact Hitler was the biggest supporter of the settlement of Jews in Palestinel!!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
The best friends forever relationship between the Zionists and the Nazis occured later in 1944, when the Nazis wanted to exterminate the Hungarian Jews. Look up the Kastener Affair. The leadership of the Jews in Jewish controlled Palestine worked with the Nazis in return for being allowed to choose 2000 selected Jews to be moved by train through Switzerland and thence to Palestine. The Jewish leadership then instructed the rabbis in Hungary to tell the 600K Hungarian Jews to board the trains to Auschwitz, telling them that they were going to a pleasant relocation camp. There were only a few dozen SS in Hungary; the Jews could have been told to run to Romania; they could have been given the chance to fight but they were sold out.
http://forward.com/culture/116718/kasztner-hero-or-devil/
I cannot imagine a similar situation occuring to any other group and the record of it being so thoroughly ignored by the History Channel and MSM.
Why? Well who owns the MSM AND HOLLYWOOD? The INTERNATIONL BANKERS!!!!.
Now fat, dumbed down Americans have been the proverbial Golem (a Jewish religious belief that from time to time a dumb powerful beast is sent by God to come to their rescue) for the Jews but millions of Americans each year are waking up; perhaps 10% of adults are now, but this is 100x more than believed it 20 years ago. The recent book "Methodical Deception" has helped. The Russians were run by the Jews until they all left in the 1980's with the plan to come back in the 1990s and privatize the former USSR. They succeeded for awhile until the Russian military, via Putin, threw them out. The Russians are still shocked by what happened to them by the Jews (who formed the majority of communist party officials), but their orthodox Christianity makes them feel that in some way, God was punishing them. They have tremendous discipline and scientific/artistic/athletic potential and thus are the target for elimination as a cultural group by the Jewish bankers, just as the Germans were a 100 years ago (the point of WWI was to reduce Germans to vassals of the bankers).
Catholics with the ability to 'confess' their sins to a priest and therefore relieve themselves of sin, are less likely than Othrodox Christians for this sort of sense that punishment is justified and Catholics therefore have been among the first to get rid of Jewish control (as seen in South America).
The Chinese never will be a Golem to the Jews , are thus the biggest long term obstacle for the INTERNATIONAL BANKERS. Attacking China head on is being postponed while Russia is dealt with first
Russia is forming a regional powerbloc (Iraq, Iran, Syria, the Stans) that will create a Muslim Christian alliance against the Jewish controlled West. Russian being part Asiatic and part European, has the most to lose if Jews win because they will go back to the poverty and degradation of the 1990s. China is going to be tested by the Jews using financial methods, but the Chinese have an even older civilization than the Ashkenazi's Jews (descended from Khazair, a finnish Turkic people that controlled the Ukraine in the Middle Ages and converted to Judaism).
The battle lines are being drawn up in this WWIV (WWIII being the war that started in 1946 and ended with the disintergration of the USSR in the early 1990s); the Jewish controlled West against the Russian/Muslim powerblock and China (along with the African interests). The Jewish led West is disintegrating due to the inherent predatory nature of the International Bankers on their host countries. South America, South Korea, and Japan among others are watching from the sidelines.
USA ansd Russia have a secret deal on Syria: The deal is aimed at preventing aerial accidents calls for U.S. and Russian pilots to avoid targeting or shooting at aircraft engaged in military strikes, according to defense officials. Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook told reporters Tuesday that details of the agreement, reached this week, are being kept secret at the request of the Russians. According to other defense officials, the accord states that aircraft, including both jets and unmanned drone aircraft, will not illuminate aircraft from other countries with targeting radar or fire upon them. Also, the agreement bans aerobatic maneuvers, such as barrel rolls, or what pilots call “thumps”—close passes by aircraft that involve gunning engines and causing target aircraft to be shaken by jet wash. DETAILS HERE:http://osnetdaily.com/2015/10/secret-u-s-russia-deal-calls-for-no-target...