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Russia Releases Dramatic Assessment Of ISIS Strikes, As US Sees "Little Green Men" In Syria

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On Thursday, in “Russia, Assad Plan New Elections In Syria As US, Saudis Meet Lavrov In Vienna,” we brought you the latest on the push for a “political”, “diplomatic” solution to Syria’s civil war. 

The official line is that The Kremlin has convinced Bashar al-Assad to call for elections and to be open to working with the opposition to form a new government. Meanwhile, John Kerry says he intends to continue to hold talks with his counterparts from Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey in an effort to find a solution that’s workable and agreeable to everyone. 

Of course if one reads between the lines, the story changes materially.

Assad won’t likely lose an election and here’s why, i) he still has some genuine support among the citizenry, ii) the Assad regime is probably looking pretty good right now in the minds of Syrians compared to the bloody anarchy that’s gripped the country for the last four years, and iii) no one is going to vote against a Mid-East strongman that they know is likely to return to power. So the election gambit is simply a way for Russia to legitimize its goal of restoring Assad. 

Additionally, the talks between Kerry and his “friends” (as he calls them) amount to Russia throwing the US a kind of diplomatic lifeline. Moscow could very well refuse to talk to anyone (much as Washington has until now refused to talk to Moscow) and simply say “look, here’s how this is going to be, because you had your chance to overthrow this regime and you failed.The Kremlin is simply allowing Washington, Riyadh, and Ankara to save face by making it appear as though there’s some kind of dialogue going on. This is farcical and thanks to the fact that Sergei Lavrov has a low tolerance for farcical charades, we got a look at the true nature of the talks in the post-summit press conference. Here’s Lavrov:

"Of course, there will be speculation. The speculation appeared before this meeting even took place. I heard that the rumors are being spread already that it has been agreed on in some place or another that in some period of time Assad will step down. This is not the case,"

There you go. That being the case, it’s not even clear what there was to discuss (as an aside, there’s something rather disconcerting about other nations meeting to decide the fate of a sovereign state in the first place). 

Additionally, Moscow continued to call out Washington for not sharing intelligence and for branding certain rebel groups as “moderates.” In what probably amounts to a joke disguised as a serious suggestion, Lavrov said he’d be happy to provide airstrikes in support of The Free Syrian army (presumably as they fight extremists) if the US would be so kind as to identify the “the patriotic opposition.’” 

Meanwhile, Russia has apparently deployed special forces to Syria. Here’s WSJ:

Russia has sent a few dozen special-operations troops to Syria in recent weeks, Russian and Western officials say, redeploying the elite units from Ukraine as the Kremlin shifts its focus to supporting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

 

“The special forces were pulled out of Ukraine and sent to Syria,“ a Russian Ministry of Defense official said, adding that they had been serving in territories in eastern Ukraine held by pro-Russia rebels. The official described them as “akin to a Delta Force,” the U.S. Army’s elite counterterrorism unit.

 

A senior Western official also said a contingent of elite Russian forces was on the ground in Syria from eastern Ukraine. A U.S. defense official said one of their roles is to provide coordination between Syrian troops and Russian aircraft conducting airstrikes in support of the regime’s ground offensive.

 

“The Russians are operating very closely with Syrian units,” the defense official said.

 

The Russian ministry official said the assets sent to Syria in recent weeks include the Zaslon unit, trained to protect diplomatic assets and personnel. Nearly two dozen Russian military-intelligence officers are also on site to liaise with Mr. Assad’s military intelligence, the official said.

 

“There certainly are ‘little green men’ in Syria,” the U.S. defense official said.

On that note, we leave you with the following graphics from Sputnik which map Russian airstrikes and aggregate the damage Moscow’s warplanes have inflicted on ISIS targets.

 

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Sat, 10/24/2015 - 17:33 | 6707211 HowdyDoody
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"Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook told reporters Tuesday that details of the agreement, reached this week, are being kept secret at the request of the Russians."

Secrecy at the request of the Russians? That make sense. The Russians are so obsessively secretive. They would never reveal what they are targetting and when, nor give information on the size and location of their forces.

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 11:57 | 6706355 Joe Plane
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“The special forces were pulled out of Ukraine and sent to Syria,“ a Russian Ministry of Defense official said"

Good joke. :)

This is the last thing a Russian MoD official will say.

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 13:07 | 6706437 I-am-not-one-of-them
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it ain't the first time a 3rd party country kicks out a US proxy

 

Vietnam did it to the Khmer Rouge in Kampuchea /Cambodia (yes, the Khmer Rouge was a CIA operation, in part to disguise how many they murdered in their bombing campaign to blame on Pol Pot, reducing the numbers for the murdered by bombing and increasing the numbers for the murdered by Pol Pot, blame it on the terrorists ad nauseam) 

 

CIA modus operandi, destroy the culture, destroy the infrastructure, assassinate intellectuals and professionals, fracture the country, murder the leaders of the country to replace with puppets.

"The campaign by Vietnamese armed forces and the Kampuchean United Front for National Salvation was one of history’s great liberations."  as will be the Russian/Iranian/Hezbollah liberation of Syria.

"The Carter Administration urged international aid organizations to cut off assistance and aid to Vietnam for having swept Khmer Rouge leader Pol Pot from power."

"Bush Administration officials cautioned the Thai government that it would “pay a price” if it abandoned the Cambodian guerrilla movement in order to do business with the Cambodian government."

"Former Green Beret Bob Finley, who discovered an arms cache of $1million during an audit, believed the arms were “without a doubt” being sold to the Khmer Rouge. Finley revealed that U.S. embassy officials were aware of the sales and where the arms were going, but launched a cover-up rather than attempt to put a stop to the practice."

ISIS - Khmer Rouge - Al Qaeda - Boko Haram = CIA:  what Americans are taught to HATE are created by and for the USA

the USA is the sleaze of the World

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 15:06 | 6706811 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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You did not mention the USSR lost decade in Afghanistan.

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 20:31 | 6707135 Freddie
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You failed to mention that the "USSR" zio-Bolsheviks who murdered 25 million Russian Christians are essentially the same people running the US zio-State Department and Deep State.  The "USSR" was not a Russian creation.

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 13:10 | 6706533 talisman
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i) he still has virtually total genuine support among the citizenry,

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 13:20 | 6706556 Able Ape
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Russian military commanders go to the Mideast to WIN, American military commanders go to the Mideast to get away from the wife and kids and get undeserved promotions...Everything about the USA sickens me.....

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 20:06 | 6707611 Dickweed Wang
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Everything about the USA sickens me.....

 

Ape man . . . one slight correction.  You should say; "Everything about the USA Government sickens me . . . .".   There are a hell of a lot of good people in the USA that love their country but can't stand the current government establishment - there's a big difference between the two.

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 13:27 | 6706578 talisman
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NATO is the CIA's proxy military in Europe
The Grand Terrorist Coalition is the CIA's proxy military in Syria
The US military is the CIA's military farce in the restof the world.
now used solely for instigating and waging illegal and unnecessary wars

 

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 14:04 | 6706624 I-am-not-one-of-them
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it's not an unnecessary war, they are trying to conquer the World, the US never mentions the word "imperialism" in their operations, but it's the central driving force.  "unnecessary war" is a remnant of defending the nation from attack which they used on Saddam Hussain - Iraq claiming he was a threat to the USA, no such pretense anymore, just all out "regime change" all over.

the " Department of War" was renamed the "Department of Defense" in true Orwellian fashion

Doublespeak is language that deliberately disguises, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words.

other keywords: "preemptive strike", "war on terror", "enhanced interrogation", "extraordinary rendition", "enemy combatant", "military aged males", "national interests", "regime change"

 

 

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 13:59 | 6706641 directaction
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Never thought I'd see the day when I'd like to enlist in the Russian army.
I wonder if they'll accept an experienced fifty-something soldier who speaks no Russian? 

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 16:53 | 6707086 begintowin
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You (and I) would better serve our countrymen in the cause of liberty and freedom by encouraging them to speak out against the tyranny being deployed around the world in our name.

A bullet can kill one man like a sword but the spoken and written word is a powerful echo of truth heard throughout the great canyon of the American republic that cannot be silenced.

We will prevail in our cause if we aren't afraid, if we don't give up, if we never surrender to the pernicious evil that has usurped the will of the people.

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 17:20 | 6707173 Teh Finn
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How well can you hold your liquor, er, I mean aviation brake fluid?

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 15:55 | 6706917 ken
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We have seen, and heard, this "somewhere" before. Coincidence? Or not?

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 17:07 | 6707140 ajkreider
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It's absolutely hilarious.  Every single stat put out by any US agency - "It's rigged!"  But from the the Russians . . . it's like Jesus himself is the spokesperson.  The . . . . Russians . . .

 

I gotta say.  ZH is entertaining.  No doubt about that.

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 19:59 | 6707585 Dickweed Wang
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It's absolutely hilarious.

 

Hilarious?  You bet it's hilarious to have a supposed "national newspaper" quoting an un-named Russian military source that is admitting that Russia did in fact have troops in Ukraine despite his country's denials of the that for almost 2 years.  I guess it's true that most people have little or no critical thinking skills at all . . . .

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 17:17 | 6707169 Teh Finn
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fap fap fap fap

-Kremlin Web Brigade

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 19:54 | 6707576 Dickweed Wang
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fap fap fap fap  -Kremlin Web Brigade

 

Asshole Alert!  This is not a drill . . . . .

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 17:54 | 6707232 foxenburg
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“The special forces were pulled out of Ukraine and sent to Syria,“ a Russian Ministry of Defense official said, adding that they had been serving in territories in eastern Ukraine held by pro-Russia rebels. The official described them as “akin to a Delta Force,” the U.S. Army’s elite counterterrorism unit."

 

I don't believe a word of this WSJ agitprop bullshit. Straight out of Orwell. Why would the Russians admit this? This goes to the heart of the WSJ & American msm integrity. Prove to me that this quote is true and I'll eat my hat.

 

Item in Russian newspaper: "US Dept of Defense spokesperson said they were reducing the number of Delta Force liaison officers embedded with ISIS until such time as Pentagon was able to deliver more weaponry to ISIS cadres." 

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 19:52 | 6707573 Dickweed Wang
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I don't believe a word of this WSJ agitprop bullshit. Straight out of Orwell. Why would the Russians admit this?

 

Ditto pal . . . well said.  THE RUSSIAN'S WOULD NEVER ADMIT TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY AFTER DENYING IT FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS!!!!

See my related comment above also . . . .

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 19:34 | 6707535 Dickweed Wang
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. . . . there’s something rather disconcerting about other nations meeting to decide the fate of a sovereign state in the first place . . .

 

You would think that this issue would have the entire WORLD up in arms but since this has been the USA's (and to a lesser degree the other "western" countries') M.O. for so long now that everyone thinks it's normal.  Truly disgusting . . . . .

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 19:47 | 6707553 Dickweed Wang
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Russia has sent a few dozen special-operations troops to Syria in recent weeks, Russian and Western officials say, redeploying the elite units from Ukraine . . . .

 

Note that the Zio-rag Wall Street Journal is the source of the above information stating that Russian troops were pulled from Ukraine and sent to Syria.  They try to substantiate this as fact by supposedly quoting someone in the Russian military but of course the person is not named (Sound familiar?  It should because it's right out of the CNN/FOX Neus playbook). 

They mention this Russian soldier/Ukraine link repeatedly in the excerpt from the WSJ which tells me; #1 - it's bullshit and #2 - the primary reason the article in the WSJ was written like it was was to reinforce the "western" military contention that there were/are Russian troops fighting in Ukraine.  Little green men in Syria my ass . . . . .

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 19:43 | 6707555 Flying Wombat
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US-Turkey “Buffer Zone” to Save ISIS, Not Stop Them

http://thenewsdoctors.com/?p=525225

Sat, 10/24/2015 - 20:05 | 6707607 Pomkiwi
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There is a common theme on ZH of posters distancing themselves from the government they elected, Seems like it's time for the US to enter into discussions with Washington.

H/T to the poster who recently siad 'god help us if we get a Republican or a Democrat President', Celente's forecast was 'more of the same only worse and he was spot on.

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