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Russia Takes Over The Mid-East: Moscow Gets Green Light For Strikes In Iraq, Sets Up Alliance With Jordan
Once it became clear that Moscow and Tehran had jointly planned the incursion in Syria with Russia promising full air support and Iran pledging ground troops from Hezbollah, its various Shiite militias, and the IRGC, we immediately suggested that Iraq was next on the agenda after the Assad regime is restored.
For those unfamiliar with the situation on the ground, we encourage you to read “Who Really Controls Iraq? Inside Iran's Powerful Proxy Armies,” in which we outline the extent to which Tehran effectively controls both the Iraqi military and the politicians in Baghdad.
The US allows this because i) there’s really not much Washington can do about it, and ii) even if there was, it would mean first trying to root out Iranian influence on the political process and second attempting to separate the Shiite militias from the Iraqi regulars, which would only serve to weaken the country’s ability to resist Sunni extremists like ISIS. The other important thing to understand about Iran’s proxy armies in Iraq is that they are the very same militias fighting alongside the Russians in Syria (we mean “very same” in the most literal sense possible as they were called over the border by Quds commander Qassem Soleimani himself). This means they are Washington’s allies in Iraq but as soon as they cross the border into Syria, they become the targets of US-supported and supplied rebels battling at Aleppo. Obviously, that makes absolutely no sense and is emblematic of just how schizophrenic Washington’s Mid-East strategy has become. It’s also worth noting that these are the same Shiite militias who, with Tehran’s blessing, attacked US troops in Iraq after George Bush destroyed the US-Iran post-9/11 alliance by putting the country in his infamous “Axis Of Evil" (see here for more).
Here's a picture that should give you an idea about why Iran's proxy armies have proven particularly effective at bullying the ISIS bully, so to speak:
Meanwhile, flying missions over Iraq is the logical next step for The Kremlin in Russia’s bid to supplant the US as Mid-East superpower puppet master. One would be hard pressed to come up with a more humiliating scenario for Washington than for the US to be effectively kicked out of the country it “liberated” over a decade ago by Vladimir Putin on the excuse that try as they may (or may “not”, depending on how prone you are to conspiracy theories), the Americans are apparently not very good at fighting terror.
Just like in Syria, Russian airstrikes would be supported by Iran-backed fighters on the ground, and thanks to the IRGC’s grip over Iraqi politics, Moscow would find Baghdad very receptive to Russia’s presence in the country.
The US knows all of this of course and in an effort to get out ahead of the situation, Washington sent Gen. Joseph Dunford (chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) to Iraq this week to issue what can only be described as a petulant, childish ultimatum to PM Haider al-Abadi. “It’s either us, or the Russians,” Abadi was told, although not specifically in those terms. Here’s what Dunford actually said:
"I said it would make it very difficult for us to be able to provide the kind of support you need if the Russians were here conducting operations as well. We can't conduct operations if the Russians were operating in Iraq right now."
(Iraqi PM Haider al-Abadi)
Although the PM purportedly pledged not to request Russian assistance, anyone who’s followed the story knows Dunford’s trip was far too little, far too late.
ISIS has been running amok in Iraq for more than a year and the US appears powerless to stop them. As we noted, there are several theories as to why Washington is so intent on keeping Moscow out. The common sense theory that requires no conspiratorial ruminations says that the US is desperate to avoid ceding Baghdad to Russia and the Pentagon knows that with Iran already effectively in control of the army and the government, Russia would find a very receptive military and political environment. For those inclined to think that in addition to any initial support (i.e. funding and training prior to the official formation of ISIS), the US is still supporting Islamic State, well then the worry for Washington is that Russia simply wipes them out.
Whatever the case, Iraq has apparently had just about enough of it and indeed, one of the reasons Dunford made the trip was that last week, Abadi said he would “welcome Russian airstrikes.” Throw in the brand new intelligence sharing center in Baghdad jointly staffed by Russia, Iran, and Syria and it’s pretty clear that despite what Abadi might have told Dunford to reassure the Pentagon, the "red" coats (if you will) are indeed coming.
Sure enough, according to Turkey’s state run Anadolu Agency, Russia has now received permission from Iraq to target ISIS convoys coming from Syria. Here’s more:
The Iraqi government authorized Russia to target Daesh convoys coming from Syria, a senior Iraqi official said.
The authorization for Russia to target Daesh inside Iraq comes amid security coordination between Iraq, Russia, Iran and Syria.
Hakem al-Zamli, chief of the Iraqi parliament’s security and defense committee, told Anadolu Agency on Friday that the measure contributed to weakening Daesh by cutting off its supply routes.
That will be just the beginning. We assume the whole “convoys from Syria” language is an effort on Baghdad’s part to make it sound like this isn’t a green light for Russia to take over the skies above Iraq but one certainly wonders how Washington intends to respond given that Abadi just told Dunford Iraq wouldn’t allow this to happen.
And that’s not all.
Russia has now created yet another intelligence sharing cell in the Mid-East, this time in Jordan as Moscow and Amman are set to work together to rout ISIS. Here’s RT:
Russia and Jordan agreed to create a coordination center in Amman, which will be used by the two countries to share information on the counter-terrorism operations, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said.
Russia is already in touch with Iran, Iraq and Syria through a Baghdad-based center used for the same purpose.
Lavrov said Jordan would play a positive part in finding a political solution to the Syrian conflict through negotiations between Damascus and opposition forces, an outcome that Russia itself is pursuing.
“Under an agreement between His Majesty King Abdullah II and Russia’s President Vladimir Putin, the militaries of the two countries have agreed to coordinate their actions, including military aircraft missions over the Syrian territory,”Lavrov said. His Jordanian counterpart Nasser Judeh said the center would serve as an efficient communication tool for the militaries of the two nations.
As you might recall, Jordan's King Abdullah wasn't exactly pleased after ISIS released a video showing a Jordanian pilot being burned alive. Here's the visual message he sent to the group after the video surfaced:
Once again, it's important to understand that this is all made possible by the fact that the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey decided to use extremist groups as their weapon of choice to destabilize Assad. That gives Moscow all the political and PR cover it needs to not only make a pure power play in Syria, but to establish closer diplomatic and political ties in Iraq and now Jordan. Thanks to the fact that the Western media has held up ISIS as the devil incarnate, The Kremlin has a foolproof cover story for what is quite clearly becoming a sweeping attempt to establish Russian influence across the region.
Finally, don't forget that with each move Russia makes towards replacing the US as Mid-East superpower puppet master, Iran gets that much closer to supplanting Saudi Arabia as regional power broker. The Kremlin's alliance with Jordan plays right into that dynamic as the Moscow-Tehran nexus is literally encircling Riyadh, Doha, and the UAE...
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Putin's Russia Obliterates The USA’s Secret ‘Mideast Strategy’
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=23524
"The Primary Zio-Anglo-American Strategy
In The Middle East Was Just Destroyed."
From the “Train & Equip ISIS” manual:
If you are surrounded by enemies, use inflated condoms to escape by air.
If you are captured with American-made weapons, blame Putin.
If you are caught having sex with a camel, tell them that you are practicing the Heimlich Maneuver. ;-)
Looney
Russia is making the president of the united states look really bad, weak, and dumb. OUCH!!
Finally!!! Our TINY.GOV has come up with an anti-Putin strategy in Syria and Iraq!
The next time our leaders meet, 0bama will be wearing custom-fitted Mom Jeans with a flirtatiously protruding Camel Toe. ;-)
Looney
"...Washington sent Gen. Joseph Dunford (chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) to Iraq this week to issue what can only be described as a petulant, childish ultimatum to PM Haider al-Abadi. “It’s either us, or the Russians,” Abadi was told, although not specifically in those terms..."
Yeah? Well, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out, Gen. Dunford - you useless sack of shit. You lost your heroin ops in Afghanistan to your CIA pals, the Taliban. Why don't you pick up the American soldiers on your way out of that failed drug operation, too?
No - I'm sure you and your CIA 'partners' are gearing up for the upcoming fake Kurdish Spring uprising, you psychopathic bitch. Next time the Israeli-firster fucks in congress send you on any other "freedom and liberty" clownfuckery anywhere else in the Middel East, why don't you pause for a minute and thing about your oath? You know - the one you've been wiping your feed on your entire fucking career:
You lying, treasonous fucker.
What will it take for them to assist in Libya as well ??
They did not mention that every step is a day closer to ending the Petro dollar
Is that "Jordan" related to the Billionaire, "Micheal Jordan"?
White House, Media Silent One Year After Murder of US Reporter Who Exposed Western Links to ISIS October 20, 2015
WOW ... Now they Gonna Kick Some Isis A$$...
Burn, you fuckers.
This is how a military runs when the Zionist are gone. You actually win.
Israel ain't gonna take this sitting down.....false flag event in 3....2.....1....
Israel knows the fiat world is about to end. Don't think they are going to do shit. Battle of the Bulge? Maybe bend the fuck over.
Paveway IV, I bow before your eloquence. +1000!
FUDAMENTAL TRANSFORMATION
CHANGE YOU BETTER BELIEVE IN
The next 15 months are going to be awesome. Many of us will be there with our mouths open saying stuff like “I don’t believe it” & “How could they get away with that” & just plain WTF?
And 44% of Americans will vote for Hitlery no matter what.
Tough to take America' side when their strategy involves lies, duplicity and sucking up to the Darkside. There is no Win Win Game Theory with these bastards.
Isreal is starting to look a bit encircled too...
Russia takes over the Middle East ....
Moar of O'Bama's 'Legacy.'
Smart move by Jordan to align with Russia as they would be next on the USSA hit-list after toppling Assad... If Lebanon is smart, they will do the same... Watch for Palestine to do the same...
Yep, Putin the Alpha-dog moves into position and growls...
And Obozo the bitch, rolls over and exposes his belly in submission and whines.
Remember the good ole days when Iraq and Iran kept each other in check? Yeah, not so much any more.
Bush - You dumb ass.
jb
If O’Bama, the Irish negro community organizer, born un-natural citizen and Kenyan Colonial British Crown subject wants to see where his legacy is being written.. look here.
American political patriarchy and hegemony dies under his guidance.
Millions are vanquished from the warm ME to the frigid climes of the prosperous part of the EU.
Europe is fractured by the forced migration.
Globalization is furthered.. Merkel approves the “fallout”.
http://news.yahoo.com/merkel-says-migrant-influx-fallout-globalisation-171024495.html
Obamacare can be fixed, the global displacement of power and population… not so much.
But maybe that was his plan all along as he golfs the resorts of the North Shore of Oahu in his comfortable post-autocracy.
PS.. FU Republicans.. you ALL are worse than worthless..
NOW, now you know what he meant when he told Medvedev he would have more flexibility after the election. He wasn't talking about Reggie. He is going to assist in or even take down the petro dollar, the most damaging thing he can do to a country he hates and half our countrymen support him. Buckle up butter cup this train just left the station.
Right now.....today.....Pluto is in opposition to the USA Sun in Cancer, Uranus is square as well.
This is the final pass of Pluto over USA Sun and the one that drives the nail home. It is a long slow change and has been long in the making, it will take decades to see the final results of this transit. But history will show this day, this time, was the final blow.
Did Obama plan to fold the USA superpower at this time, I don't know but it was going to happen
anyway at this time.
It is however amazing to watch this. First starting in 2008 Pluto was opposed to USA Venus (money) Jupiter (truth, excess)
which proved we can't be trusted with world reserve currency, the first leg of the table was kicked in. We printed too much money and were reckless and untruthful in our financial matters. Pluto came along to clean that up by destroying it and unmasking us for the world to see.
USA has Venus conjunct Jupiter which is lucky, lozza resources as a new country and always would land
on her feet. It can be a great combo: sense of hope, enthusiasm for new ideas, the quest for truth, a “can-do” attitude, regardless of circumstance.
Now the check has been delivered to the table and we must pay, sort of like when the English had to pay the check in 1917 with the Balfour deceleration. It was the most important document in the history of a nation they say. Pluto was also opposed to England's Capricorn Sun, the same transit we are under. The amazing thing is as it is exact today, it is very clear for those paying attention that the check reads "it is no longer a unipolar world"
the funny thing is the chart of Israel seems to not be that damaged, yes the angles are hit by Pluto 4th/10th but Saturn in Sag supports all the Leo planets as does Uranus. Meet the new boss same as the old boss.
The Zionists don't run anything but Israel and they always win. Read a book bozo
Journalism -- real journalism -- in Turkey is a relatively dangerous occupation.
Real journalism is fairly dangerous here in the U.S. as well. The post 9-11 anthrax attacks pretty much ended journalism, as I have no doubt they were intended to.
"Real journalism is fairly dangerous here in the U.S. as well."
What ever do you mean? Mercedes catch fire and blow up all the time.
Wait...What??? You mean they don't? Oh. Apparently that only happens when investigative reports are driving. Please, carry on...
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/car-experts-michael-hastings-crash...
I have to quote the authority on this topic...
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
he bought the country to make it the first bball svereign state, killing infidel baseball and football and soccer players all the world to build a one world basketball empire. you either play round ball or no ball at all.
that is delightfully strange and strangely delightful.
eretz basketball
I've never been a Putin admirer -- he's an old-school kleptocratic tyrant. But I'd like to thank him personally for taking the Middle East off our hands. Have fun in the sandbox, dude. I predict that it's a Pyrrhic victory for Russia, but I am certain it's a great victory for the American people.
If you think US and Russia have same goals and priorities in Middle East then good luck . You've not figured Russia's interests.
among many other things, apparently.
I only care about the interests of the American people, which are to get clear of the Middle East.
It doesn't matter what Russia's interests are. If you had any ability to learn from experience, you would notice that trying to control the Middle East is a fool's errand, and in the end one's interests will not be served. OK, maybe at least Russia is pursuing its own interests in the Middle East, instead of those of foreign lobbyists and parasite states. But still their long-term net from the adventure will be negative, just as ours was.
If you had any ability to learn from experience, you would notice that it's much easier and more fun to sit on the sidelines and lob cheap monkey wrenches into the gears of some other fool's imperial aspirations, than it is to be the fool with imperial aspirations. Let us lob the monkey wrenches for a while, and let Putin be the other fool.
I heard a British ex-spy master the other day on NPR, expressing the Anglo-Amero-Zionist certainty that Russia is a nation in decline -- demographic decline, cultural decline, you name it. The brutal kleptocratic reality of life inside Russia causes a permanent brain drain, whereby anyone with any abilities (such as the founder of ZH) votes with their feet and leaves. If that is true, adding a Middle Eastern empire to their load will only hasten Russia's decline. So if you stand for America and dislike the Russians, Putin's current adventures are a double win.
really npr?
you're funny...
Well, if you hear it on NPR, then (pick one)
It must be true.
Are you shitting me?
"
Will be on my list of sources to be only after money as psychics and signals from space.
Regular officers daughter. This ex-spy master is stuck still in year 1994? Well, turn on your brains for once. Or you head need only "there to eat"?
Links here and you will ignore because they for you cause burning sensation in the anus.
Russia's Baby Boom. Fertility Rate Far Higher Than in EU, Rising Quickly
Russia Demographics Are Now Reasonably Healthy. Birth Rate the Highest in Europe
Recession Won't Reverse Russian Demographic Recovery
'Dying Russia' Has Healthiest Demographics in the Region
Russia’s Remarkable Renaissance
I broke your fine mental organization? Well, excuse me.
On display here infamous American expertise geography. Bulgaria on a unique magical plate tectonic and somehow floated inside Russia?
If is true? Your statements exhibit a peculiar truth evasion. Russian imperial aspirations are phantoms in your head reside.
Reads like US political corrects expression for retardity.
Woodpecker you're brainless. Good luck in general, in your hopeless case...
Oh, Baby, I may speak better English, but I can't top that...
the green arrow is for your hillary moniker, say anything you wish.
Russia did not embrace modernism, that is it's ace in the hole I say.
Look what it has done to the West, they have the luxury to access the long term results as they are building a new country.
Just look at Putin's home, the classic world is celebrated.
You do not understand the difference between the foreign policy of Russia and the United States.
- Russian integrates other countries in its environment, as friends and equal partners.
- US colonize other countries and nations as vassals and slaves.
For this reason, all your conclusions are wrong.
Yes Russia does this now.... say the past 20 years to be generous.
But what about the other 1,000 years or so? Sure the Poles, Lithuanians, Germans, Hungarians, etc feels as if they were equal partners.
This new niche has been created because USSA policy have gone off the rails, and opened the door for Russia to be the "Good guys".
It will change....
"I heard a British ex-spy master the other day on NPR, expressing the Anglo-Amero-Zionist certainty that Russia is a nation in decline"
That is really funny. An ex-spy from the land of fags and paedophile is talking about Russia being in decline.
Has this guy walk though the streets of London lately??
Exactly what part of America are you standing for?
Our outright destruction of any non-government connected?
The Oligarchy that continues to rape us while offshoring or outlawing our ability to produce anything?
The overreaching Nanny State that wants to take children from homes because they walk to parks or schools?
Or maybe the mandating of toxins known to cause brain impairment and death for our health?
Oh, I know, the America that invades, or fund terrorists to invade, sovereign nations, creating millions of victims that now really do wish us harm?
I'm so confused, my public educated brain washing wants to believe in the "America" you speak of, instead all I have is this pile of facts that "America" has been dead and buried a long, long, time.
So because the USA has made a clusterfuck of the middle east, then any power that succeeds them will also face the same trouble?
Thats a typically American way of thinking - that the only way to fix the place is to act exactly as the USA has done. Which also happens to be exactly how the British handled the place beforehand.
How could the exceptional nation not be 100% correct in all things?
Maybe the Russians have a completely different way of thinking and acting, and Americas way is not the only path.
Time will tell, but by the look of things currently the history books will be full of ridicule for the stupidity of the USA's self serving, narcisistic, and frankly completely disasterous empire building efforts.
So continue to tell yourself that this is yet another "Mission Accomplished" banner to be saluted with delusional pride.
I was curious -- was my comment being down-voted by:
1) Putin admirers who are angry that I make fun of him and doubt his triumph will be a triumph in the end; or
2) Putin critics who think I don't appreciate the magnitude of his victory and the terrible danger that he poses?
Or did I manage to offend both sides?
this is not about who admires Putin and who does not. You don't get the full picture. 1) Russia still has its big problems (like corruption), but unlike the USA they try to fight it. They are certainly not a nation in decline, that's just Western propaganda.
2) Middle East is Russia's backyard, that is why Russia's goals are different: Russia needs a stable and orderly Middle East, because anything else is a huge threat to Russia itself. If your backyard is overflowing with rubbish, that rubbish starts to get to your house and you have no choice but to clean up that backyard. All those wars and radical insane groups are starting to overflow to Russia already now. Russia must make order in the Middle East to stop it. On the other hand, the USA is so far away from the Middle East that chaos and mess there does not trouble them. NWO elites even wanted all that chaos and mess in the Middle East as one of the tools to destroy Russia (and China)! China also has its muslim population and all that mess in the Middle East is a problem for them as well. This is why simply for practical reasons (of survival) both Russia and China need to make the Middle East orderly again.
And that is why the USA (like everyone else) needs to stick only to its own backyard. In other words, the USA has no business in the Middle East and Russia should have no business in Mexico (or Canada:-). And this is exactly what Putin proposes as the "multipolar" world: every big nation has the right to its own sphere of influence and should not interfere in spheres of others - the only practical way to avoid world wars and Armageddon. Russia and China already understand that and they are doing quite well in staying out of each other's way and making practical agreements, the USA should learn to do the same. And I bet the USA would do the same, if they weren't controlled by insane zionists, who believe that they can control the entire world, which is impossible and cannot ever be achieved.
Nicely stated, kudos.
OK, thanks for clearing that up. The board is swarming today with Russian nationalists who don't understand English very well and are full of hate and write like Boris Alatovkrap without necessarily intending to.
Well, cool your borscht. The Middle East is yours. I want you to have it, really. The locals will thank you profusely for bringing order to their homelands, and praise Allah for putting them in Russia's backyard. chuckle chukle ...
Islamists can be brought to heel very well, be more brutal than them and they will kowtow..
How about we stop paying, training and arming them? How about we cut off the AirJordans and Toyota pick-up supply line? How about we cut-off the sarin gas supply line? That ought to fix 'em. Oh and no more Golani Brigade IDF cannon fodder running around with the jihadis. That ought to fix 'em real good too.
You are a conceited little prick.
Just because people enjoy seeing the Russians kick some ass, it does not mean that they do not have the best interests of the US at heart.
Obama is a buffoon and seeing him being being made to look like an incompetent idiot can be quite pleasurable.
Also, it really matters not who restores order in the Middle East. The world will be better off when it is restored.
well enough..
is that all you got to bite?
pa ruski?
btw, where is your leadership?
better worry about your own country
For you retards like you and all painted. And yes, put your explanation to yourself in the ass.
And the terrorism tool keeps blowing back to the zionist.
Poor Colonel Shahak.
That's why they try to create the TTIP/TPP 'trade' network that is said to mandate using USD. The new Russian alliance will probably take on Libya in their own good time. If Jordan doesn't get propped up by the US taxpayer any more, they can save some money to put it to good use in the US. I know I am naive. Establishing US rule including bases in these countries would get frightfully expensive as they are not in the position to pay stationing costs.
PW4-Best post in whole thread!
Zero fucking accountability. Greenspan and Bernanke didn't get it for blowing the Mother of All Bubbles. Clinton didn't get it for NAFTA and tearing down Glass-Steagal. Bush didn't get it for being asleep at the switch for 9/11 and then the wonderful Iraq and Afghan wars. Hilary didn't get it for creating all-terror zones in Libya. And Obama won't get it for destroying health care and doubling the national debt.
WTF are you gonna do. The United States of Amnesia.
BTW Turkey is the next Syria, you heard it here first.
bush was not asleep at the switch on 9-11. he just played one on teevee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsoY3AIRUGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhROd7Jt3-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgM6hjNedE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj_AL4OlmHc&feature=iv&src_vid=rnbMjAN7B...
http://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticl...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVHstSrC1CQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gORu-68SHpE.
Sef edited for stupidity...
Well we have the big one.... If Old Yeller went a quarter of a point next week.... Well that would finish of the BRICS... perhaps that is the plan let them extend and then chop it off. Arm some Chechens, and let the party really start....
I find it hard to believe that this isnt part of some Yiddish plot. Watch and see.......
You are a relentless self-upvoter.
Great to see you back Paveway.
Taliban had nearly eliminated poppy
that was before...now this bs claim coming from media recently, give excuse
I just read, izraHELLi plane shot down over Golan, Spatnez looking for the pilot.
provide link or it did not happen in real...
probably not,...coz "Spatnez" mention is giveaway for fictions
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150822/1026069664/israeli-jet-shot-d...
and here:
http://warmonitor.net/news/2015/10/24/reports-israeli-jets-spotted-over-...
I guess izraHELL will be asking its bitch for more planes, as from what I have read, they are running low, do you need links as well for that ?
Even Jews are sick of Jewish behavior.
From Paul Craig Roberts, "God’s Chosen People? — Guest Column by Stephen Lensman"
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/10/25/gods-chosen-people-guest-colu...
Isn't that kind of redundant?
I think some of you are missing the big picture. Say that US Plan-B failed—take over Syria after Iraq.
Isis are Sunnis. US have always supported Sunnis. So, Isis controls Iraq, with US and Saudi support (Plan-C).
Now, say that in a couple years US, Saudi, and Israel manage a Coup D’état in Syria.
And, that the US president by then is a neocon or a Christian…. Obama is neither.
"Ezekiel tells us that Gog, the nation that will lead all of the other powers of darkness against Israel, will come out of the north. Biblical scholars have been saying for generations that Gog must be Russia. What other powerful nation is to the north of Israel? None. But it didn’t seem to make sense before the Russian revolution, when Russia was a Christian country. Now it does, now that Russia has become Communistic and atheistic, now that Russia has set itself against God. Now it fits the description of Gog perfectly." Ronald Reagan, 1971.
Never Let a Serious Crisis Go to Waste: How Neoliberalism Survived(s).......
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1781680795?refRID=B3QFWNTPC57XETC7CW56&ref_=pd_ybh_a_1
By the way: Bush believed that “Gog” was Iran.
you lost me at obama isn't a neocon.
if you can't see that what can you see?
p.s. why capitalize coup d'etat?
Because Obama is lees militant than Bush and Reagan.
Hillary Clinton is more militant than Obama.
Obama is an opportunist neo liberal.
He doesn’t believe in any of these.
He just do it for self preservation.
oh it's all self preservation. everyone knows what happened to jfk.
ask chelsea manning if obama is lees militant.
ask the syrians.
Following this thought, I believe best scholarship leads to Gog being Turkey, so look for either ISIS caliphate to finally headquarter in Turkey (Also North of Israel), or another caliphate which supplants ISIS to lead the Ezekiel 38 alliance, but if so, what happpens to Mother Russia in the meantime?
Clearly, the Zato alliance meets it's end later on, not now.
more popcorn, please...
Depends who you ask. If you ask an evangelical Christian in Texas is not Turkey.
Again, Reagan believed was Russia. Bush Iran, I guess after looking at Putin’s eyes.
However, the neo liberals are more sophisticated. They go to war for resources…… Living a dream; so they need to control Iraq oil fields. Not sure how they will manage that during collapse.
The point I was trying to draw attention is that: Neo liberal or conservatism don’t matter. Both religions are lunacy. Neither will prevail in the end, because they are predicated in continuous demographic and economic growth.
Enforcing the TTIP/TPP 'trade' network is very neocon and Obama does that.
ignorant post
The Bible is quite clear as to the identity of Gog and Magog. Genesis 10:2-3 identifies Magog as the uncle of Ashkenaz, for whom the Ashkenazi Jews are named. According to Jewish scholars, the Khazars who converted to Judaism openly boasted of their descent from Gog and Magog (see "The Thirteenth Tribe" by Arthur Koestler and "The Invention of the Jewish Peole" by Shlomo Sand).
Once we understand that Gog and Magog are the Ashkenazi Khazars who invaded Palestine in 1948 and displaced the Palestinians who are the actual descendants of Abraham, the prohecies in Ezekiel make abolute sense. The prophecies say that Gog and Magog will invade the Holy Land and cover it in walls when before it was unwalled (the Zionist Wall partitioning the West Bank for the first time). They will oppress the peaceful inhabitants and steal their lands and loot its riches. They will come from Russia, Yemen and North Africa (some of the most important regions of Zionist immigration). And then God will punish them with absolute destruction, allowing the original inhabitants to take back what was stolen from them.
The story is pretty clear and is happening right before our eyes. Christian Zionists who support Israel are actually followers of the Synagogue of Satan -- those "who claim to be Jews but are not." (Revelation 3:9) The Christian Zionists are the armies of Gog and Magog, and are the people that Jesus spoke of when he said: "Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord! Did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me you evildoers!" (Matthew 7:22-23)
Here is an excellent book by a Christian scholar revealing the terrible deception perpetrated on evangelical Christians who support the modern state of Israel, which is nothing more than the rule of Gog and Magog:
http://www.amazon.com/Matrix-Gog-Khazars-Destroy-Plunder/dp/1930004834/
Exactly covered a lot there...
Ancient maps show location of these...
btw Turkey is direct north, look circular, globe of earth not flat map
anyone apply themselve see inconsistencies of the evangelists
but I think only 2% Americans can critical think
If shiny BS, looks money and on TV, it got them
Really though you can't fault us for the 2%, in light of our recommendations to stay out of the sun, eat no natural/saturated fats, toxins disguised as medications, fluoride, toxins as food additives, GMOs, etc., we should feel damned lucky there is 2% left than can think at all.
Ooh, there goes Caitlyn...
Rhett72,
You wrote: “Christian Zionists who support Israel are actually followers of the Synagogue of Satan.”
Now how do you reconcile your statement with this:
By Gallup Poll: 65% of Republicans support Israel, compared to 31 of Democrats. Twice more likely support within America white male.
So does it make, if you’re a Bible follower, most Americans ignorant of the Bible scripts thus Satans?
And how about Reagan and Bush? Satan, too, accordingly to the Bible?
http://www.mintpressnews.com/latest-gallup-poll-shows-young-americans-overwhelmingly-support-palestine/194856/
While Russia is taking over the Middle East....or shall I say 'conquering'?
China took over UK without anyone knowing....
Xi's UK visit: the achievementsAnd China is now busy encircling the entire Middle East, India, Central Asia stretching until Europe with it's economic superiority, in conjunction with Russian support. Must I mention that China and Russia are bringing trade and business along with investments of billions in order to boost consumption and bring peace, instead of what IMF and US do : throw bombs and missiles!
silk road economic belt
We should all applaud the first decision of the new Canadian PM who within the first hour of taking over, stopped bombing the Middle East! We seem to have a sane man in the first G-7 nation (though G-7 is mostly irrelevant and largely a relic of the past at this point).
So China enters Zionism ground zero. Will they survive unharmed or will they too be brought down by the infection?
Chinese Central Bank isn't an independent body like FED. CCP controls it. One-Party Rule . Moreover Chinese don' shield Israel crimes at UN also.
They also make an ever growing percentage of America and Europe's food, clothing, medicine and shiny distracting screens.
We are going to be in a world of want and hurt if China quits accepting our promises in lieu of real money.
Everyday it seems like that reality is growing closer.
Wonder how well we will be able to feed ourselves with the law saying we have to have USDA permission for home gardens, and 30% of the population too fat to get off the couch, let alone dig in the dirt, or even walk to the government truck handing out our rations?
I'm not going to worry about the meds, those poor bastards are going to die pretty fast, sadly coming off the brain drugs is going to cause a whole bunch of lunatics to go on killing sprees.
America! Hell ya!
The writer of this comment is really stupid, ignorant and moronic. The middle east isn't ours. Its not our toy. Russia didn't steal our toy. Its not the taxpayers job to fund a global playground for the US military to "exert our will".
Everything in the above article was PURE PROPAGANDA designed to promote some type of kneejerk response to Russia stealing our "toy".
Leave it alone. The middle east is like a big turd pile. We've got to learn to stop playing in it. Apparently readers of ZH think that playing King of the Turd Pile is exactly what taxpayers are supposed to finance.
i'm pretty sure you have misinterpreted this article. i read it as a scathing critique of u.s./israeli policy in the syria/iraq/iran nexus rather than a complaint about russia.
all but the first sentence in your first paragraph and the first three sentences of your last paragraph are actually borne out by the post. and you are absolutely right there, imo.
jeff, it's interesting that Israel wasn't mentioned in the entire article. Obviously, the US is carrying out Israel's foreign policy in the region as everyone knows; the majority of officials in charge of US ME policy are Jewish and the banks choose who wins elections as they own the MSM and have the money to bribe nearly everyone.
This self-censorhip has got to stop because the real reason the US policy has been one of creating chaos, death, and destruction cannot be rectfied. The Jewish influence in the US governemnt must be reduced to the same percentage as they exist in the population, about 2%
My choice would be zero % on both counts. Historically, no other way is possible.
you know you're right. and a sentence like "this is all made possible by the fact that the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey decided to use extremist groups as their weapon of choice to destabilize Assad." is grossly inaccurate without israel in it.
i am a broken record on this but the best way i can think of to break the neocon hold on our government is to break through the 9-11 ruse. it is the chink in their armor. it is monstrous yet buffoonish in its clumsiness. it can be found out and it cannot be forgiven or forgotten.
but if the news item george washington reprinted about the captured israeli colonel with isis is true that can't hurt.
What's Trending? IDF Colonel Shahak?
https://www.google.co.th/search?q=colonel+shahak&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=G7UsVrHcL4jH0gS9m7rgCA9
"jeff, it's interesting that Israel wasn't mentioned in the entire article."
Maybe its author looks for employment or coöperation with BBC...
Jeff Montanye - Nope, I'm referring to the comments to the article, not the article itself. TOO MANY AMERICANS BELIEVE that we should be dancing about the globe whenever their is an issue at taxpayers expense because its John Wayne, patriotic American to want to blow things up whenever there are squabbles around the globe.
The evidence consistently shows up in the daily, "go to war" articles that we have posted here on ZH.
I know, the discussion format programming on ZH sucks - BADLY.
I think the President of the United States made himself look weak, dumb, and really bad. Russia just took advantage of his stupid foreign policy.
Obama: Where is it, where is it? Shit, that fucking cunt took the reset button when she left didn't she?
Staffer: Yes Mr. President, along with everything else that wasn't nailed down.
Mr Pres u lost all control of it all, nice job
Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov's saying about selling the capitalists the rope to hang themselves seems almost apropos in this situation.
After 9-11 the Russians allowed the former Soviet Republics to open up forward operating bases for the US to supply its foray into Afghanistan. When we went a bridge to far they then applied the pressure to deny access to these former airfields and our only supply route is now through Pakistan. And, undoubtedly the Pakistanis would more than be willing to sell us out to the Chinese and Russians.
With Iraq they sat back and watched us waste not only men and war fighting material but bleed the US Treasury dry.
They also stood down as we stoked the Arab Spring from Tunisia to Libya to Syria. Now Europe suffers from their own Arab Spring as millions of Sunni with no place to live invade Europe.
We overturn Saddam only to replace him with Shia leaders in control and we can only sit back and wonder why the Iranians control the Iraqi army.
We've spent trillions upon trillions of dollars only to hand over Syria and Iraq on a silver platter to Russia and Iran.
The Russians have taken over Crimea, Syria and Iraq for pennies on the dollar.
The neocons who consider themselves the best and brightest have totally botched everything and they're about to finish the take down of the US via amnesty, Obamacare, TPP, gun control, more and even higher immigration, and Wall Street corruption.
Can America afford anymore of their hubris?
I haven't logged in here in years - I had to give you a thumbs up - great comment.
imo the capper will be when the trump limited hangout on 9-11 is no longer sufficient. 9-11 was the true bridge too far of the neocons' hubris.
Russians do not spend money they do not have normally
We don't have friends or allies anywhere on that continent. People who somewhat cooperate with us - the Turks, the Saudis, the Chinese all can't stand our guts. Money doesn't buy friendship and if someone takes out bribes or respond to threats, they do it hoping to stick the knife in our back as soon as an opportunity presents itself. Eurasia is not our home. We should mind our own business, defend our own borders and protect our shores. That's it.
Guess turning over our production to China wasn't such a good idea?
Who'd thunk it?
Worked for somebody. Lloyd says he was doing God's work.
I really like the Russians. Russia has been Christian for 1,000 years with the exception of 80 years of zio-Bolsheviks murdering 25 million Christian Russians.
Russian men are not sissies like white Amerikan males who cheer on Trayvon thugs like little girls on Sat and Sunday and usually more often. These dumb whites cheer on white genocide. These same dumb white Amerikan males - many still love Obama or endless wars like fools.
Russian women are usually pretty smart, attractive and survivors.
Lovely how you spelled it "Amerikan" rather than "American". Is your White Supremacy nutcase subconsciousness experiencing a Freudian slip?
i believe that current usage of that spelling dates from the sixties and began as a critique by leftists of the day (sds, weathermen, etc.) suggesting that the government was fascist, nazi-like, etc.
historically the kkk used it earlier but i don't believe current usage really dates from this. the commenter is using it to mock white american males. saying s/he is then kkk influenced would seem absurd.
it really seems that while the USA is becoming more like the Soviet Union, Russia is distancing itself from the 20th century-era-type totalitarianism more and more and going back to what they were before the zionist takeover. Well, not quite a Western "democratic" country (which they never were), but the Russian Empire, true to some of the ideals of the 19th century. One of the proofs is the amazing revival of the Cossacks, who are essentially private militias, once destroyed by communists (who feared they could turn against the government), but who are now supported by the government (though not controlled by it).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8WaXjOfmxI
Looks like that cannibal is taking the white baby to the barbecue.
man russian woman hot...
Russian Woman:
"To stop the running horse, to enter the burning house"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeyDfVjq6sw
dup this is favorite: feat Yevgeniya Dzhevaga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdPvaIXxm4Q
Don't CIA records indicate that Putin was actually born in Alaska (as an Anchor Baby), and then returned to Russia (then USSR) with his parents?
If so, he could run for POTUS in 2016. And probably win in a landslide.
an anchorage baby?
he will have to improve his english and probably start drinking at least beer.
but yes.
We could only be so lucky.
I heard he could just go to some hospital in Hawaii and they'll work it all out.
go figures
What if Daesh decided to attack Russia? (very interesting video)http://thesaker.is/what-if-daesh-decided-to-attack-russia-very-interesti...
Obama strategy is to steal as much as possible while rotting the USA from the inside
There'll be a few people in the US suffering from a slight case of indigestion.
Time to offcially get worred about what the freaks in NATO are going to do...
crumble quietly
What..., shoot themselves in the other foot?
No, shoot themselves in your foot (or mine).
Maintain their status as a capable military force.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ6mv09iBZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC3Lh-smsmM
Break up and switch sides? Europe can get in on the new Silk Road?
Next up, Cairo. And then on to Khartoum. Amerika has indeed well-earned its share of ill-will over the last 20 years. Blowback is a bitch.
Well the man from Chicago said he was going to change things....he never said for the better
Hey ZH. How about a follow up article to the one you posted yesterday. The one about the most powerful storm ever. That was to destroy the west of Mexico and would have 39 foot high storm swells.
Remember that, just yesterday.
What is the reality? I am reading LIGHT damage, mostly rain damage. Little wind damage. Little or no real storm swell damage. That the measured maximum wind speed at the coast was 165 mph with others saying it was much less.
These are preliminary stories coming out so maybe they are only from lightly hit areas. So ZH give us the updated scoop. How big and bad was the storm?
Buy the rumour, sell the news...
I have to ride 3 days in it, not fun
http://www.corad.org/texas_radar.htm
http://www.khou.com/story/weather/radars/2014/07/25/texas-gulf-coast-rad...
Know the area. Be off the little highways by 11 most nights, especially Sat and Friday and in bad weather.
Putin takes the Levant and the dream of the Greater Israel is smashed forever.
Watch out for the Samson Option now.
Very funny, I know for a fact that MJ does not even speak arab.
see, zh? this is what i'm talking about. and far better than the name of the person being replied to would be a click spot that showed the comment involved. now that would be cool.
localizer: Jordan?! Opps!
Indeed! The US has always strutted out Jordan as one of their BFF's in the Middle East. An alliance with Russia is surely a game changer.
Hmm, Jordan gets inundated by Syrian refugees due to fscked-up USA policy and are still expected to say: "Very good Sir, may I have another?" Arabs might be insane, but they're not complete idjuts!
ISIS or whatever the fuck they're called this month were trained in Jordan...
And hope saudia arabia and qatar go to shit, these fuckers along with the CIA and Mossad are the #1 sponsors of terror and destruction in the world....good riddance!
....Putin overheard talking to BO "sit down and STFU and let me show you how its done" (click)
Looks like Obama just got himself into a Mexican Standoff in the Arabian desert. Ooooops!
Next up, Egypt!
what is the mid east as opposed to the middle east? lets rename it the shitty sandbox.
McCainia?
AHole of the world
im pretty sure the ashkenazi-asian IQ war will have something to say about that.
well if you get to multiply the i.q.'s by the respective populations . . . .