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Einsteinian Insanity: US, Saudi Arabia Pledge To Provide More Guns, Ammo To Syrian Proxy Armies
You have to hand it to Washington. When it comes to foreign policy blunders, the US certainly isn’t afraid to double and triple down.
As a leaked diplomatic cable from 2006 definitively shows, the US has actively sought to stoke sectarian violence in Syria for at least the last ten years and part of that effort has involved coordinating with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey to support Sunni extremists.
That support led directly to what has to be considered the most absurd foreign policy outcome in the history of modern statecraft and we never tire of calling it out: Washington, Ankara, Riyadh, and Doha trained and equipped a group of fighters, told them to go and destabilize the Assad regime, and somewhere along the way, that group of fighters went rogue and metamorphosed into a insane band of black flag-waving, sword-wielding, white Nike-wearing, desert bandits hell bent on establishing a medieval caliphate.
Whether or not ISIS is still getting support now that they have gone completely native we’ll never know for sure, but what we do know is that despite the sheer ridiculousness of that “train and equip” exercise, the US and its regional allies went on to arm and fund still more Sunni extremists hoping against hope that they might manage to find the rebel Goldilocks zone and finally back a group that is all at once effective at fighting to overthrow the regime and not prone to going absolutely nuts in the process.
And if the original efforts to arm and train Syrian “freedom fighters” ended in tears of sorrow, more recent efforts have ended in tears of laughter. The Pentagon’s latest foray into building a Syrian proxy army began back in May with a completely ridiculous press release that attempted to explain the rebel “vetting” process. By the time summer rolled around, the US had only managed to field around 60 fighters. In July they were ambushed by al-Qaeda who kidnapped the group’s commander and deputy. By September, US Central Command Gen. Lloyd Austin admitted to Congress that only “four or five” fighters were still active on the ground. The rest had either been killed, captured, had defected to ISIS, or were lost in the desert.
Now that Russia is in the process of obliterating anything that even looks like a rebel and now that Hezbollah, the IRGC, and Tehran’s various Shiite militias are busy marching over anything that even looks like a Sunni extremist, Washington has resorted to resupplying America’s proxy armies. That is absurd for two reasons, i) it amounts to the US giving weapons to soldiers who are trying to kill the Russians and the Iranians, meaning Washington is literally waging a war against Moscow and Tehran with one degree of separation, and ii) the US is giving the Free Syrian Army anti-tank weapons to use against the very same Shiite militias who Washington supports in Iraq (i.e. they’re “allies” in Iraq, and enemies in Syria).
The effort to rearm the rebels is now more urgent than ever thanks to the fact that Russia and Iran are advancing on Aleppo. If Aleppo falls to the regime, it’s game over. Assad will effectively be restored and Putin and Soleimaini will turn their eyes west to ISIS and then, once Raqqa falls, they'll march and fly right on into Iraq. Amusingly, Moscow even offered to provide air cover for the Free Syrian Army if the US would be so kind as to point Russia to the group’s “patriots” who are defending the country against extremists. The FSA declined to accept help from The Kremlin.
Make no mistake, Washington and Riyadh understand all of the above.
Well, maybe not all of it.
They clearly haven’t learned much from the myriad failures that have accompanied the whole “train and equip Sunni extremists” strategy because now, the US and Saudi Arabia are set to step up support for the rebels fighting Russia and Iran in an astonishing (if characteristic) display of Einsteinian insanity. As always, the excuse is "fighting ISIS." Here’s WSJ:
Secretary of State John Kerry and Saudi King Salman agreed to increase support for Syrian forces fighting Islamic State militants while backing international diplomatic efforts to begin a political transition in Damascus, U.S. and Saudi officials said.
The U.S. diplomat and Saudi monarch also coordinated on their countries’ joint efforts to fight the Islamic State terrorist organization that has gained control over large sections of Syrian and Iraqi territory in recent months.
“The secretary thanked the king for Saudi Arabia’s support to multilateral efforts to pursue a political transition in Syria…and reaffirmed our mutual goal of achieving a unified, pluralistic and stable country for all Syrians,” State Department spokesman John Kirby said after Mr. Kerry’s meeting on Saturday night with the Saudi monarch.
Note the hypocrisy there. In fact, allow us to spell it out. Compare and contrast:
- Secretary of State John Kerry and Saudi King Salman agreed to increase support for Syrian forces.
- “The secretary thanked the king for Saudi Arabia’s support to multilateral efforts to pursue a political transition.”
So on the one hand, Kerry and Salman are paradropping more guns and ammo into Syria, and on the other, they’re patting themselves on the back for pursuing “a political transition.”
In any event, back to WSJ:
The U.S. and Saudi Arabia provide arms and training to rebel armies fighting in Syria. Washington, though, has refrained from backing insurgents who are directly fighting President Bashar al-Assad’s regime.
That’s an interesting assessment, because we could swear that the Free Syrian Army has been the target of Russian (i.e. pro-regime) airstrikes, and we could also swear that the US provided them with more weapons just last week.
The American media can't even keep Washington's lies straight anymore.
Here’s a bit more from Reuters:
The United States and Saudi Arabia agreed to increase support to Syria's moderate opposition while seeking a political resolution of the four-year conflict, the U.S. State Department said after Secretary of State John Kerry met King Salman on Saturday.
Kerry was in Riyadh for meetings with the Saudi monarch, crown prince, deputy crown prince and foreign minister - the last stop in a trip that also included Vienna, where he met counterparts from Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Russia.
"They pledged to continue and intensify support to the moderate Syrian opposition while the political track is being pursued," the State Department statement said after Kerry's meetings in Saudi Arabia. It did not spell out what kind of support would be offered.
Rebels have appealed for more military support from foreign backers, including Saudi Arabia, to confront major Syrian army offensives. Those offensives are backed by Lebanese Hezbollah and Iranian fighters and Russian air strikes.
The United States and Saudi Arabia, together with other states opposed to Assad, already provides some military support to Syrian rebels. That includes training by the Central Intelligence Agency and anti-tank missiles.
So, coming full circle, Washington is once again doubling down on a strategy that has not only been a demonstrable failure, but has i) served to propel the rise of brutal terrorist organizations, ii) fomented discord on the way to sparking a civil war that's cost hundreds of thousands of lives and left millions displaced, and iii) now threatens to ignite a world war, as the US and its regional allies are effectively encouraging the rebels to kill Iranian soldiers battling under cover of Russian air support.
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Something is missing in the Middle East reshuffling... If Putin were using only 0bama’s weakness to re-assert Russia into such an important region, he would be running a risk of a major direct confrontation with the US/NATO, if a neocon is elected the next POTUS.
All his super-easy gains might be threatened in about a year. So, his assertiveness must be based on something else, which cannot be jeopardized on the day the new President takes the oath, whoever he/she might be.
So, what’s missing?
There are two possibilities:
1. Our nukes and/or ballistic missile shield, neglected for the last 25 years, might be completely useless TODAY. We know it and he knows it, OR…
2. Russia could have built a new weapon which would render everything we have useless. It could easily be a “satellite killer”, for example. Look, if the Rooskies blow-up a dozen of select satellites, all our equipment (ground, naval, air) turns into a pile of junk instantaneously. Without the GPS, Internet, Secure Communications our military would be as blind and deaf as a week-old puppy.
About 6-7 months ago Russia proposed a UN Security Council resolution prohibiting the use of Space/Cosmos for military purposes. We, the exceptional, vetoed it. Well… Just a few weeks later, the Russian Air Force was officially renamed into the Air-Cosmic Force.
Two weeks later, our satellite gets blown to smithereens due to a “sudden temperature increase”.
My whole point is that no matter how indecisive or cowardly a President could be, the MIC and Banksters would never allow him to surrender THAT MUCH and THAT EASILY, unless they too knew that Putin’s got REAL aces up his sleeve. I think? ;-)
Looney
Don't worry Looney. Hillary will fix it!
I object to the term 'foreign policy blunder'. This implies stupidity and incompetence. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. If this 'foreign policy blunder' pushes forward a hidden agenda it is far from stupidity and incompetence.
War! What is it good for?. Everything when you wish to distract and destroy.
WE IS ISIS
WE ISIS
ISIS IS US
ISIS US
So we're going to provide better supplied targets for the Russians, Iranians and Syrians to bomb?
Anyway, once Russia entered the fray Assad was restored. Russia and Iran aren't going anywhere. What's ZATO going to do, declare war on it's energy supplier Russia?
And, with millions invading Europe their hands are full. What? They're gonna start conscripting people to send to fight and die in Syria? They won't even fight back against the muzzie invasion.
As for Aleppo, once retaken by Russia, Iran and Syria, it will just be the cherry placed on top of the ice cream dessert.
putin/russia are working in concert with nyc/dc/aviv
they split up ukraine. now they are running a mass evacuation of syria. 5 million of 23 million already gone. israel expansion housecleaning?
russia's currency/bank/markets would be in freefall if it was acting against nyc's interests
New Strategy: Let the Russian’s be the bad guys, throw the rebels/ISIS a few military bones to like us, ease out of the region and cross our fingers.
nonsensical troll and spouts drivel,
(This cheka moniker, only been here 30 weeks 6 days)
you are not alone. most brain dead idiots buy the putin-as-enemy of nyc/dc bullsh-t story
he would be a fool to do what he's doing w/out their approval
the ziocons playing you (again)
Sorry Cheka, Russia is well on its way to shuffling off the last vestiges of the demonic coil that your ilk placed on her.
Go hang out in Tel Aviv and sleep in the bed that you made. Fantasizing that your pals still have red terror bestial squads from hell using Russia is unbecoming.
comprehension problems much? lmao!
go back and read my post SLOWLY. or get someone else to read it to you
russia would be under all-out financial attack if it was bucking nyc/dc/aviv
Cheka, name of the worst scum emitted from Hell's typhoon, take a quick look at the 1 year price chart for Brent. Comprehension isn't my problem.
yes the oil production SUPPRESSION cartel has been hit hard
nyc.saud had a lock on it for a long time. damn frackers.... little help? epa?
true scarcity requires no cartel. peak oil - another scam run on the dupes
FOSSIL fuel lie has been debunked....yet the zombies continue
This isnt a blunder, its an attempt to stop a pipeline.
As with the Federal Reserve, policy decisions only seem like blunders if you mistake the declared goals for actual goals.
American taxpayers have geneorusly deep pockets, evidently.
Wait until we have to pay for those 5 million refugees in Europe and the 1 million the Dems are importing to America.
because pipleline = any stupid reason will fool the m-asses
piplelines are not a scarce natural resource
Agree.
Which tickers do we hit - the next Haliburton?
"So now what do we do?"
"Well, all the weapons are bought and paid for. You still have to deliver them."
Hey Cog. Haven't seen any articles on ZH from you lately. Are you still slaving away in the salt mines?
Thank you for asking. I have been very busy with a full time job plus two hours a day of travel time back and forth along with maintaining the homestead over the summer. I expect to have a new article up on www.twoicefloes.com this evening.
http://thesaker.is/konstantin-sivkov-interviewed-about-the-russian-opera...
Who is Hillary?
A financial weapon? The US financial system is about to implode and the new prez will have bigger problems than Syria to worry about? I don't know, it's just a guess but I agree something is missing from the equation that is set out for everyone to ponder.
When the financial system crashes "Expect War"
They'll have to start that war before the system crashes.
Fred your point is well made! The USA is living now totally off of dollar hegemony. We as a government spend 2X the tax intake. That leaves our books short 50% every year. We print and borrow to make up the difference. As long as all people in the world see the dollar as a store of real value, they will trade resources, labor, technology and consumer goods for the green paper. Thus the USA can always print it's wat out of any problem. Lose even a bit of dollar hegemony and the USA slips into financial chaos.
I believe Russia is desperate to buy time, to let world economics eat away at the great Money Printer, the USA. When the dollar begins to slip, America will need all it's forces just to hold the United States together, Imagine LA and Chicago with no welfare payments at the same time! Enough said, just imagine!
One ace up your sleeve - China.
"China & Russia v USA wielding the mighty dollar.
If Russia loses, China is next and I bet that conversation had been had.
Are you kidding?
Russia and especially China have little to worry about except being nuked by the idiots in Washington.
We've not only lost in Afghanistan, but Iraq and Syria as well.
All that blood and treasure for naught by a bunch of insane neocons that thought they could spread Democracy at the end of a gun.
Why would either Russia or China have to fear a culture that worships celebrities, praises men for having sex operations to become women, fosters a homosexual agenda, imposes a feminist agenda from grade school all the way to the college/university level and suppress maleness at every step of the way either through brainwashing or pharmaceutical drugs.
So far our multi-culti, micro-aggressed, sensitivity trained, self-esteemed population is taught to abhor violence in our state run FEMA camps (public schools) all the while saturating the youth with endless violence on TV and in the movies.
Our current generation of youth is being taught how to be sissies and pansies while hating guns. When these children become eligible for military service and have been taught to hate guns then how will they be effective in the military. So now the military is going to have to reverse brainwash them to love guns?
Currently the military is running out of young adult males fit enough to serve thereby forcing the military to turn to homosexuals, transgenders and females for combat roles.
We're so politically divided that I doubt you could get a consensus even if extraterrestrial aliens descended upon the country and started to take over.
Our politicians refuse to stop the invasion from south of the border. We're importing enemies from abroad, replacing our native population in the workforce and forcing many in the country into destitute poverty with their policies of open borders and endless immigration.
The Federal government is at war with its own population with police state powers that either severely curb their constitutional rights or downright eliminate them entirely (NDAA).
One side of the population hates the country they live in and wants to transform it into a European socialist state where the government makes all the decisions and provides everything from cradle to grave, while the other side is being required to not only pay the taxes for these government benefits to the FSA/liberals/.gov but are also expected to die serving their country that is being radically transformed against their will. Eventually these people will have had enough and will go Galt.
Looking at our corrupt and degenerate culture please tell me exactly what the Russians and Chinese have to fear?
I wish this comment weren't buried so deep in the thread. It deserves to be a post of its own.
PE sure is on a roll lately.
Unfortunately, what you say about a more neocon POTUS in 2017 is very likely.
Just as IMHO Obama was made President as a display of power by the Deep State (as in, "we can make anyone we want President - hold my cognac and watch this"), Hitlary will be made President, elected unanonymously by all the US Diebold voting machines, because it was so ordained by the deciders at the latest CFR/Bitburger Conference.
That will be the final, sealing nail in the coffin of the "Great American Experiment in Democracy", which aside from a relatively high standard of living and a lack of major population culling via War on the US mainland, never really got very far after 1861 and Lincolns expedient first gathering of now all encompassing Federal power.
As for new weapon systems puting a brake on Western ZioNazi campaigns, we shall see. I would not underestimate the nefarious psychopaths in Israel, Washington/Virginia, and the City of London.
8 years had to be more than a "display" of power? Unless that was the time needed to prepare the main course and ready her queenless?
Our criminal government works for the defense corporations why is this a surprise. Every "terrorist" toting a gun is good for the bottom line. They'll arm these guys until they're all dead. Hell if there are 6 year old girls that can fire a cannon some US corporation will give it to them courtesy of the US taxpayer. Cha-ching. Bonus time for Lockheed and Boeing execs!!!!
It's actually pretty smart. See, the US boosts their economy by making a bunch of weapons, and shipping them off to Syria. The Russians boost their economy by going over there and blowing 'em up. No Americans or Russians get killed in the process, so it doesn't get much bad PR. It's a spectactular game of digging a hole and filling it over and over. Only the Syrians suffer...
The facts are that as president, Obama is giving material support to a foreign enemy of the United States, ISIS. As a defense at his trial for treason, constitutional lawyer Obama (who apparently has yet to write one brief) can defend himself by proving that ISIS is a U.S. creation working for the dark core of the CIA. Then, Congress will have the duty to impeach him for high crimes and misdemeanors.
The latest news on the raid on an ISIS compound that led to the death of Master Sergeant Wheeler indicates this raid was carried out by Delta Force with the Kurds providing secondary firepower and translators. One more lie from our Saudi puppet president.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3288220/Footage-emerges-showing-...
Lovey and I were in stitches this morning laughing about that. Some TV guy was on earlier (complete with a British accent, making him sound informed and impartial LOL!) describing this daredevil rescue. He said some shit to the effect that US "boots on the ground" have been hard at work and not naive enough, like the Russians, to think air raids alone would be enough to solve this "crisis". The guy even carried on about how careful they were to do their bravery when no women and children were in harm's way.
The keywords were: bravery, unsung heroes, resolve, humanitarian, precision, democracy, blah, blah...it was so obviously scripted, absurd and pathetic! Bullocks!
I think you're ascribing as much (undo) credit to the skills and coordination of TPTB as the MSM did to ISIS and al-CIAda.
"2. Russia could have built a new weapon which would render everything we have useless. It could easily be a “satellite killer”, for example. Look, if the Rooskies blow-up a dozen of select satellites, all our equipment (ground, naval, air) turns into a pile of junk instantaneously. Without the GPS, Internet, Secure Communications our military would be as blind and deaf as a week-old puppy."
To expand on the thought:
The concept of 'network centric warfare', which is the current US doctrine, means that they are capable of bringing the right asset to the right location at the right time. Think of it in terms of 'just in time' manufacturing. It is also JUST as fragile as JIT. If you have anything that goes wrong you are right and proper fucked.
GPS, comms, etc are fragile things and the US does not have the capability to withstand the lack of it. The pentagon is just waking up to this and has announced a return to celestial navigation.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-celestial-navigation-20151025-story....
If GPS goes down, just use GOLNASS - too easy.
/s
There's a reason Russia put that parallel system up, and don't think they can't just encript change frequencies or just turn it on an off at will. Must not forget Russians are the best chess players.
missiles do not use gps or glonass, maybe just only as an extra, they use gyroscopes
Could the US be planning another "Afghanistan" here ? Namely, surface to air missiles that could impede or stop Russias air operations while ground forces re-equip ? Do they plan on making it too costly for the Russians to proceed? Remember, so far it's still a proxy war so anything goes.
As I understand it, MANPADS can't get up high enough to take out the Russian aircraft, so at best the US/Israeli/SA/Qatari/UK mercenaries would only be able to work against Russian helicopters (not easy) and (for false flags to blame on the Russians/Iranians/Syrians/Hezbullah) passenger aircraft taking off/landing.
Looney
LUNACY, founded on typical US hubris.
Putin is NOT "re-assert"ing Russian dominance in the Mideast. The Mideast is in chaos Because of US invasions, occupations, and support for despots. It is NOT a question of alleged Obama "weakness", nor is waning US influence due to fantasized Russian super weapons.
Yes, there may be future confrontations if jingoist US superhawks set US policy, but that is outside of Russia's control, and cannot be avoided by passive submission in the face of US aggressions.
"So, what's missing?"
1. Obama gave Putin, via Carter, maps of ISIS strongholds.
2. During Valdai conference, Putin did not attack US.
What's missing is who is the enemy Putin and Obama confronting. And it's not ISIS...
Question: Where would Obama get maps/intel more accurate and up to date than that which the Syrain Army (talk about boots on the ground) already provides to the Russian and Iranian forces?
Don't forget the Shkval Torpedoes Russia has. The US military is in a complete state of panic of how to deal with those things: We have ZERO countermeasures capability to deal with them; our precious missile shield is especially worthless against them. Oh yeah, Iran has already purchased some of those wonderful things a few years ago. The 5'th fleet in Bahrain is much more vulnerable than the press and war hawks would have us believe.
Blow up some satellites and totally restrict our ability to use the oceans to move equipment and personnel around and the US military is effectively castrated.
"Castrated". Now that's sexist! Visit any US military installation and you'll see that a large part of the US force consists of small brown women.
Something is missing in the Middle East reshuffling.
It is entirely possible that Putin is going along with the "good East" vs "evil West" conflict to allow the peoples of the world & global theater to understand:
1.Why the torch will be passed to China
2. Why the Western Central banking systems failed
3. Why we need a one world currency (SDR's) and a central agency (BIS).
4. Why cash will be illegal.
Welcome to the NWO coming to a town near you.
"if a neocon is elected the next POTUS."
They are ALL NEOCONS.
Who do you think Obama's advisers are?
The transitions from President to President, since NIXON, regardless of what side of the coin, has been seamless imperialism and destruction of the new deal.
The US, Carter (the President who claims to have had no wars), continued to support Pol Pot and the Khmer rouge after Vietnam kicked them out of power, just like the US, Obama is supplying arms to ISIS et al as the Russians kick them out of Syria.
Nothing is going to change with a bogus election (captured).
The USA is entrenched at being the nation that commits almost all of the most heinous crimes against humanity. Terrorists"R"U.S.©
"The Carter Administration urged international aid organizations to cut off assistance and aid to Vietnam for having swept Khmer Rouge leader Pol Pot from power."
"Bush Administration officials cautioned the Thai government that it would “pay a price” if it abandoned the Cambodian guerrilla movement in order to do business with the Cambodian government."
"Former Green Beret Bob Finley, who discovered an arms cache of $1million during an audit, believed the arms were “without a doubt” being sold to the Khmer Rouge. Finley revealed that U.S. embassy officials were aware of the sales and where the arms were going, but launched a cover-up rather than attempt to put a stop to the practice."
It's actually very simple. He has to hang onto Syria. If not, then it's gas line cometh from the land below and Russia will have serious competition problems in Europe. + now he is spending money he doesn't have to fight in a proxy war.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11937348/Russia-retreats-to...
@Looney: Damn man....you read Tyler´s post and responded with your own, inside of two minutes! And I thought only Jon Hilsenrath could pull something like that off.
ISIS was made in America and the Nobel Prize Winner has spent billions on ISIS. Will he allow ISIS to be destroyed?
ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”
For three years, the US, along with the Gulf states and Turkey, poured billions into “opposition” groups, supposedly to unnamed “moderates,” but in reality to Al Qaeda-linked Sunni groups such as al-Nusra and ISIS to spearhead a sectarian war. The US, Turkey and Jordan have operated a base in Jordan where US instructors trained dozens of ISIS members. In an article last year, the New York Times confirmed that the CIA assisted Arab governments and Turkey by airlifting weaponry to these groups in Jordan and Turkey. The Guardian reported last March that British and French instructors were also involved.
Other ISIS members were trained near Incirlik Air Base near Adana, Turkey, where US forces are based. After completing their training, they went to Syria and later Iraq
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html
USA, Turkey and Israel Act As Air Force for ISIS
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/08/usa-turkey-and-israel-act-as-air-...
A man(*) has gotta protect his legacy
* - for some meaning of the word 'man'
Obama's war on ISIS is a fake one - 6700 airstrikes till September 2015 and the strength of ISIS only grew in that period:
1yr, 6,700 airstrikes & $4bn after Obama vowed to ‘destroy’ ISIS, jihadists still on offensive
Published time: 10 Sep, 2015 05:58
https://www.rt.com/news/314885-isis-usa-anniversary-campaign/
The US arming of ISIS
For his part, US Deputy Under Secretary of State Anthony Blinken insisted that Washington and its allies are pursuing a “winning strategy,” and that it would succeed “if we remain united, determined and focused.”
Over the past several weeks, this “winning strategy” has seen ISIS capture Ramadi, the capital of Iraq’s Anbar province, as well as the historic city of Palmyra in Syria. In the past few days, ISIS forces have advanced into Aleppo province in Syria, overrunning rival Islamist militias and Syrian government troops as well. This offensive has proceeded without any interference from US and allied warplanes supposedly waging an air war against ISIS.
“Focused” is scarcely a word that any objective observer would use to describe US policy in the region. While claiming to be committed to a war against ISIS, Washington and its regional allies have time and again proven themselves to be its principal sources of strength.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/06/03/pers-j03.html
Poll shows 81 percent of Syrians believe US created ISIS
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/09/18/isis-s18.html
I think ISIS/Syria are simply yet another poorly conceived, poorly executed politcal lever that is being used to try to foster the takeover of Sunni Islam over Shia Islam in the region. The the thinking being that the west can usually make a puppet Prez out of a Sunni moderate wherever they need it.
Globalists think they can change anything they want about the world with pressure and political inputs appropriately applied where needed. This is just another meat grinder for American kids and another spirit breaker for America in general. Slow processes to achieve long-term goals. America must be broken.
Check out the symbolism in the Globalist Fabian society window: "Remould it closer to the heart's desire" Their crest is a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Divide and conquer doesn't care what sect, as long as there are sects to dissect.
In the end, the USA wants control, and will destroy the last sect standing to claim overlord.
Sunni or Shia, inconsequential. One will be used to destroy the other (as that Iraq-Iran war started by the CIA designed to weaken both: an unsuccessful grenade attack in 1980 against Tariq Aziz (then Iraq's Deputy Premier) started that terrible war that saw the US supply weapons to both sides and sarin gas to Iraq used by Saddam in the war).
There are 2 things which you can not compete with, insanity, and free.
Most things can be fixed, but you can't fix stupid.
First you have to define it and interpret it correctly, then you shall see it's easier said than done to "fix it" or get it "done". Getting it done right the first time is nearly impossible with todays brilliant minds. Butt yeah, you can't fix stupid, I agree.
And you can't fix ideological fanaticism either.
Except with 63 grains of Plumbum. Via air mail.
Is there, by some chance, a "moderate opposition" in Saudi Arabia, that Russia can help with millions of dollars and tons of weapons?
There are plenty of 'mederate oppositions' to supply weapons to...against...that pig face fucking, painted egg, zionist piece of shit Cameron, that dirty ass bandit black cunt Obama (that's not racist, if he was white I'd call him a white cunt), Frau Merkel the filthy narcissistic U.S. cock smoking Nazi bitch, Hollande the non entity do-as-he's- told pathetic Frog spawn sick fuck....the list is endless. Not even mentioning that fat fucking idiot in Tel Aviv, I hope he dies the same way as Ghaddafi, with a bayonet rammed up his little Jew-boy arsehole...
...did I miss anyone?
Of course you did. You forgot the unelected assholes in the EU that are trashing Europe.
There is a substantial Shia minority in the oil producing regions of SA. The Saudomites spend quite a bit of money and gestapo effort in keeping it under control, but this remains their true Achilles heel.
Perhaps a "moderate opposition" in the US?
What makes it a "moderate opposition" anyway? The phrase seems to trip easily off the tongue in a place like Syria, so why does the idea seem an absurdity in the US? Or in Britain? What's good for the goose....
Wow. Didn't know about that USAF satellite explosion, Looney. 500 miles above earth's surface in Feb. Wasn't exactly covered in the media was it. only found one reference to it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2976166/Satellite-blows-E...
OutaTime, here is another reference to that satellite blowing up.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/11444155/US-military-satellit...
Wonder if Looney connected the dots himself, or where he found it.
TPTB have been playing with fire from the start in Syria. Doubling down on supporting ISIS seems insane to me. What am I missing?
It was a no lose strategy in their view. Either the proxy invasion succeeds and Syria becomes another vassal, or the Syrians successfully resist but their country is completely destroyed making future attacks on Lebanon and Iran easier.
Russia putting an end to the IS farce and poaching some of their vassals wasn't part of the script though. They don't have many options for a re-write (too late to pretend IS are the 'good guys' and can't seriously bomb them due to western mercs and handlers) so they'll just keep doing the same thing. They're also dumb enough to believe that Al-Ciada will be able to defeat Russia in a guerrilla war.
Good lads U.S./Saudi?Israel...keep pumping as much money as you can into the 'moderates' MOAR, MOAR, MOAR...and Russia will just blow the shit out of them, PLEASE keep pumping that money in non-stop, because when Saudi is broke, the U.S. loses its ability to recycle petro-dollars and Israel lose their foreign backing, I will be sat with a nice bottle of Brandy and watch all the shit rain down on your heads (From afar)
Keep paying them filthy fucktarded, rapist pieces of shit in the desert to do your dirty work, because you know your own troops would get their asses handed to them, not long now fucktards till all hell breaks loose, bring it on!
A few more pretty girls gradiating from what used to be a really good Ranger school and they'll (IS) be begging for us to use our new Ranger troupettes. Please, please,,, PRETTY please.
(Abo Omar Tow) No.1 Tow Shooter in Falcons of al-Ghab (Suqur al-Ghab) Group is killed by SAA in Al-Mansoura
Did that sexually self employed (i.e. wanker) actually use the words " pluralistic" ?
Perhaps he didn't notice that the Saudis rejected Syrian refugees.
Or is Saudi Arabia full of Christian churches and I somehow missed it?
America is cutting her throat and she cannot hide that fact by putting on a fancy tie any longer.
What the fuck is "Einsteinian" insanity? Like it breaks our notions of causality? Warps the fabric of 4-d spacetime?! What?!
Einstein said doing the same thing again and again and again and expecting a different result can be a sign of insanity
Not 100% sure but they say Einstein said also this:
There are two infinite things - the Universe and human stupidity, although I am not sure about the former.
The headline omits the major player: Israel, served by Heinz Cohn. His name Kerry is fake. He's another AhshkeNAZI.
Sheesh. Try to get your facts straight.
And I don't care if you ban me. Be grateful for an editor.
Yeh, the clues right there in the name...Frankenstein, Goldstein, Moneystein, cocksuckerburg, Mcainawitz, Clintonovitz...
Condoms! We need MORE CONDOMS!
And helium.
Will explain later.
Great article. One typo. Raqqa is to the east of Aleppo, not the west
It depends which way you are reading the map....but point taken.
God forbid, but if the Russians bomb the USA, what will the value of the American dollar be?
Mmmmm....I thought so.
What will the value of a silver dollar be?
Mmmmm...I thought so.
They won'the even have to do that. Remove the House of Saud and USDRUB falls to 15, at most. Russia will finally be the rich country she would have been had British and American bankers not used her as a guinea pig for social engineering experiments.
In the States, the prices of iTurds will quadruple overnight. The FSA won't be amused. Neither will men in uniform, whose pay will start coming late if at all.
Hello Spark. Meet Match.
Hello spontanious, meet combustion.
If a person is dead, he doesn't know he's dead so being dead is not a problem for him but can be a problem for those around him who are not dead.
It is about the same with stupidity as Mr. Kerry and his ilk are working hard to prove.
I have not seen anything on Yemen and the Saudi war for a few months now. How is that war coming along? We could be on the brink of a full scale Middle East power shift to Iran and Russia. We won't know about it until gas prices are $15 dollars a gallon. The administration we have is packed with retards. When Obama was gutting the military he must of gotten rid of all the analysts too. Too see all that treasure, blood, and energy flushed down the toilet by tHis administration is unbelievable. We are at a very vulnerable point in American history.
The news papers have a lot of Saudi and UAE martyr burials. Google it.
"...he must of gotten rid of..."
....he must have gotten rid of...
Fuck, English is not even my first language and I never make that mistake and I see Americans, Canadians, Brits and Australians do it all the time.
Does the retard gene dominate the Anglo population???
How the hell do you get though at least 12 years of education and make that mistake???
Correct grammar is not the theme of this thread and usually only trolls try to hijack threads.
That said, I remember when "ain't" was bad grammar. It has since become so common it is now accepted.
Ya know what?... This is actually "great news"!
Now all the U.S. government courtesy of Horse Face and the "POW" has to do is distract and aid the "American meat" in connecting with the feel good past like "Monument men", "Fury" which are also fabricated bits of our collective soul and history and when that doesn't work which is highly probable?... Well ya know?!!!
Those still in uniform that are on heavy duty psychotropic meds on their fourth tour which is now indistinguishable and has been for the better part of a decade with those in uniform and those in other attire serving moar money will willing march forward into the food processor that will make Vietnam look like a celebration of triumph...
I say outstanding! We're getting rid of what George Carlin told us was a necessary byproduct of natural selection "the stupid people" YOUR PAYING FOR!!!!
Then?...
We will have this very poorly orchestrated "tarantella" on Capital Hill with the Marcel hair do who saw 54,000 of his fellow countrymen perish in two years in that war he fought leading the charge for a bankrupt nation and a new draft... into that food processor!
Then?... When everything collapses and the banks and their pocket pool whores in Washington have nothing else to "covet" and "control"?...
There will be this!!! Epitaph
What is left of your dream?
Just the words on your stone:
A man
who learned how to teach
Then forgot how to learn
Queen / A Day At The Races / White Man - 1976
Im so glad they are raising the debt ceiling (like they always do) so they can fund more of this shit.
I wished the Republicans cared about defunding the rebels as much as they care about repealing Obamacare and defunding planned parenthood.
Stupidity is universal. Which god supports the Saudi, Qatar and Barack kings? Will one of their glorious kingdom come?
Well the Pope says Christian and all the other religions have the same God.
If so....
Then that God is playing the same game that the USA is,,, arming groups while claiming they're the enemy.
Did the Pope say if God supported, the Saudi king, the Qatar king or the American king or just the Pope?
"The rest had either been killed, captured, had defected to ISIS, or were lost in the desert. "
Defecting to ISIS? All too convenient. Admitting incompetence to cover up complicity. Those beheadings surely provoked moral outrage in the west, makes you wonder.
US voters seem remarkably accepting of Crucified Christians.........
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/isis.is.crucifying.and.burying.chi...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tDKp7ZRieY
So which country crucifies people in 21st Century ? Burma, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, UAE and of course Saudi-funded ISIS
The British government sold them the crucifixes...
It does not matter which puppet the US makes inhabitant of the White House the US has lost Europe. Once Merkel falls this Christmas and Germany starts to split as in 1923 it will be Russia that will be the lodestar in resisting Muslim invasion of Western Europe. http://atimes.com/2015/10/more-horrible-than-rape/
Saudi Arabia is finished - economically because Iran and Iraq can export oil - politically because Salman is a disaster and his family want a coup - the US cannot prop up the regime - Iran will hold sway
Qatar has bought 4 Leopard tanks from Germany so maybe these things will get a combat test - but somehow I doubt Qatar will survive the test
The real question is Israel. It might be nearing its expiration date. It has nuclear weapons but they are the Armageddon Tool and it nevertheless removes the Jewish state from the map as so often in history. There is a profound propensity to self-destruction which goes in periodic cycles. The USA may simply not be in a position to fight the whole world alone
So that's where the Military's Pay Rise this year went. Check...
US led Axis of evil is going to try to bleed Russia like Afghanistan circa 1980. Which led to the arming of Osama Bin Laden. Which led to Al-Qaeda. Which led to invasions of multiple countries. Which led to ISIS....
Wikileaks of White House strategy session:
Wait, wait cut!! ... This plot is way too confusing for the masses.
From now on lets stick with Orwell and just keep repeating, "Oceania is at war with Eurasia in alliance with Eastasia."
Got it? Ok. Don't fuck this up, Kerry. And scene......
Anyone offered 'help' by the US should RUN
Our criminal government works for the defense corporations why is this a surprise. Every "terrorist" toting a gun is good for the bottom line. They'll arm these guys until they're all dead. Hell if there are 6 year old girls that can fire a cannon some US corporation will give it to them courtesy of the US taxpayer. Cha-ching. Bonus time for Lockheed and Boeing execs!!!!
They dug up Lurch?
Henry Kissinger, I've been missin' yer
You're the doctor of my dreams
With your crinkly hair and your glassy stare
And your Machiavellian schemes
All right, so people say that you don't care
But you've got nicer legs than Hitler and bigger tits than Cher
Henry Kissinger, how I'm missin' yer
And wishing you were here
ODE TO HENRY KISSINGER
(Not even Monte Python could think up anything as absurd as what's happening in Syria.)
The Obama regime is just pure evil
"The Obama regime is just pure evil"
Yes, well, yes but not quite. Or rather, but then...
https://tobefree.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/ifyouthinkeverythingwillbeo...
The US and its Anglosphere and EU vassals are pure evil.
"..we never tire of calling it out: Washington, Ankara, Riyadh, and Doha..."
Let’s not forget Israel and Mossad, who have just as much to gain from: getting a new pro-western regime in Syria; breaking the link between Iran-Syria-Lebanon's Hezbollah; and diversifying its energy imports and getting a nearby supplier (with the pipelines that will run through there, if the West gets its way).
Yet, in every article you "..never tire of calling it out: Washington, Ankara, Riyadh, and Doha..."
... it is a consistently significant omission. Makes one wonder if they are paid to be so absent minded...
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" ~ Upton Sinclair
They leave that to be said in the comments section.
Gives them plausible deniability.
Israel is simply behind EVERYTHING !
This lunatic US policy in the middle east can only be stopped by the american people. As someone in Vegas once said to me 'That's not how you drink root beer'
Einstein never said that.
http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/9-albert-einstein-quotes-that-are-totally...
Looking forward to the day when the Saudi government goes bankrupt and the princes face the cruelties they inflict on their people.
these sand people are either stupid or get paid very well
Both.
Moar Lions. I hear ISIS needs more cages and starving lions for executions. Let's see Lurch get some Saudi princes to air drop some of their pets into Anbar.
Kerry is a grade A asshole.
The American public should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. At some point you need to take responsibility for the actions of your "leaders". You keep voting for them time after time after time.
And you know what else...this argument about the sheeple being unaware is bullshit. Alot of Americans are fully aware of what their government has been up to over the last few decades BUT THEY DON'T FUCKING CARE. They would rather stand in lines for the next fucking gadget release and stuff their faces with twinkies and turn the channel when the narrative requires them to think. YOU ALL DESERVE WHATEVER COMES YOUR WAY!
IDIOTS
What you say is true but the voting is controlled by Diebold and other government contractors. No election in the USA is valid when using those machines. I have watched how easy it is for them to flip votes.
In the Middle East, when people hear the USSA is going to bring "Freedom and Democracy," they head for the bomb shelters.
Don't forget it was the State Dept. under Hillary that did all the arms deals.
Well, if the U.S. and S.A., want more, give it to them!...Short of the BIG BOMB, give them every thing you got!
MAKE'EM SCREAM UNCLE
Let me get this straight.
The US government is a sponsor of terrorism.
I think there are federal laws against that. When is the Department of Justice going to start arresting people? (OK, OK, stop laughing)
It seems the only thing important to humans is power over other humans! Like a gigantic football game except people die.
The USA is in the same state militarily and politically as Russia was in 1990. A complete political disaster with thousands of nukes and broke. Well Russia didn't nuke anyone and has managed to correct her failing economy where the USA is just continuing the same old.
Russia "learned" whereas the USA remains delusional. The bottom line:
Economically the USA is toast. It produces very little and if it were to disappear tomorrow it would not be missed.
Politically it is toast. Has nothing to offer the world except misery and destruction. At home it is attempting to monitor and control everyone's lives its paranoia is so great. Its police state so enormous that it makes the third Reich look like kindergarten amateurs.
Militarily it is completely living in a fantasy of its past having destroyed its military with political correctness. The military (without nukes) has been destroyed by the ghey and feminazi agenda's. Even a draft would not help as maleness has been beaten or drugged out of present day males from preschool up.
The only thing left is the nukes. Now the question is: Will the USA be as responsible with these weapons as Russia was when the USSR broke up? Personally from what I see coming from Washington the answer is a resounding no.
These fascist power wannabees are a danger to all life on the planet... Even if Russia did not respond to a USA first strike.
During the past 20 years Russia has acted in a responsible manner while the USA has acted like a out of control toddler throwing fits and trying to beat up / intimidate everyone.
For humanity's sake and for all life on the planet let's hope Russia does indeed have something that makes the USA nukes useless because when all else fails the USA will most likely try to use them.
Well, what did you expect? Morons DO stupid things! Would you go to a MORON for a SOLUTION to ANYTHING?....
Back in the 1980s, there was a cable channel known as the USA channel. I have no idea if it is still around, as I haven't watched any TV in about as many years. Anyway, they used to televise boxing matches every Friday night. I was sitting in this smoky bar, watching this fight on their set. I will always remember this fight for it's brutality. The ref should have been stripped of his license. Why this guy's corner didn't throw in the towel, I don't know. People in the bar watching it along with me were even shouting at the set: "STOP THE FIGHT, HE'S HAD ENOUGH!" Even the announcers were saying the fight should be stopped, where is the fight doctor? This guys eyes were swollen shut, he couldn't see the other guy, much less hit him. It was sad to watch. But because no one was stopping the fight, the guy stayed out there, getting the shit knocked out of him. This guy HAD to know he was beat, yet he stayed in the ring. That is what the US military reminds me of right now: WILL SOMEONE THROW IN THE TOWEL BEFORE MORE OF OUR GUYS GET KILLED, BECAUSE THE FIGHT IS OVER, THEY LOST ALREADY, EXCEPT NO ONE HAS TOLD THEM.
Introducing more guns and ammo may be insane but it's not very effective insanity. If the nuts destabilizing the middle east want to have an effective counter to the Russians they'll need to up the ante in some way.
Great Article and Great comments! Thanks to all of you! ZH is such a big part of my daily life as it keeps me abreast of what's really going on in the world. The thoughtful comments enlighten me and expand my understanding. Some of you are so eloquent you challege me to be a better writer. English was not one of my favorite fields of study in school and I'm paying for it now, so please bear with me as I try to respond to some of the comments.
What does Russia and Chna have to fear? Everything! They know quite well that the USA is an empire in decline in every way possible. They also know that we have the largest military force/weaponry on the planet. We also support a regime in the middle east that is bat shit crazy ( Israel) who, when forced to will play the Sampson Option- If we're going down, we're going to take you with us! Russia and China know that a rabid, dying dog is still a very dangerous dog.
So, what is missing? I honestly don't know but I do know this; The USSA is not going to give up this easily. The NWO masters won't let the power shift away from the banker controlled west. Nor will Israel take all this lying down.
Saudi Arabia is on the verge of falling. The royal family fued will only hasten the inevitable civil war. What part will Israel play in this and what happens to the Petro Dollar?
The recent news of the Delta Force sergeant's death at the hand of ISIS during a humanitairian "rescue" is all Neocon PR meant to save face. I don't mean to belittle the death of an American soldier but when is the last time you have heard about a Delta Force operation? It's all over the MSM. The Neocons need to have the American public behind them so they can continue their pillage and plundering. See...we are fighting ISIS in spite of what those evil Ruskies say!
If you think Obummer is pure evil, just wait until Hitlery becomes Potus. She'll make him look like the waterboy that he is. Hitlery has been chosen to take us to WWIII. Russia and China are trying deperately to dismantle our power and control of the globe but at the same time are preparing for war.
I have been fighting a serious illness which has forced me to give up being so angry at our global leaders and our current state of affairs. I'm much more at ease at what is and what will be! It's also helped me to realize that I can't change any of this and the best I can do is try to prepare for the coming storm.
Thanks for listening. Maybe I'll change my handle to JustDave because I'm not feeling so Super anymore!
Russia is more confident because the results of the last decade crash program to build up their electronics warfare and anti aircraft warfare systems has been a bigger success than even their most opptimistic developers imagined. The systems of A.A. missiles and passive radars, added to serious breakthroughs in electronic warfare has allowed Russia to BREAK the USA's long standing complete control of the Air. As long ago as when I was in the military, the USA was working on the military Holy Grail. "Air Superiority". WHen you have open skies above any enemy, you will prevail. Russia believes thay have totally broken US Air Superiority and that Russian skies are closed to NATO. Meaning NATO can only fight man to man, tank to tank. And defending Russia's lands is something Putin and his men believe they now can do with certain success.
Recently, Russia displayed it's basic capabilites in Syria and the Black Sea. If these are "Basic Capabilites", we can only wonder what the Real Top of The Line Systems could do if ever switched.
Let me remind all that the USA spent 1 trillion in Afghanistan, 1 trillion in Iraq, and 1 trillion across Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, Ukraine, etc. While Russia spent ALL it's money on defense, the USA spent trillions on worthless occupation and coups, proxy wars and false flags. Russia spent it's money in science and development.
Putin be like: Hey, come on man just point out your own fighters so we can blow 'em to kingdom come Lololololzzzz
Obama be like: Chill out bro, just hold up while we think of a really really big dumb lie that my Citizen peeps will believe! Call the WSJ broseph, let's release a go pro cam Thang my dude, just use the old Osama raid film homie. Fuck it!
There is no doubt - the Russians can turn the entire US navy into floating bathtubs - so can Iran who passed the technology onto Russia - China have the only land based satellite destroyer - tried and tested - US is seriously fucked - they should never have started it !
I love reading all the Sunday/Monday night quarter backs. The only one profiting from all the violence are the arms dealers, west & east. Russians and Chinese are working on the next generation of killing devices, The USA working on rail guns, lasers, and battlefield robotics. There won't be any winners when it comes to populations on any side or alliances. Only the bankers, and the MIC will rise on the backs and bones of decimated humanity. You call that a world to live in? Keep cheerleading then...
Its so clear
Howsoever Pirate captain Satan America & its allies (all lies) hide & speak polished suave language ,
it is so clear that they are lying and acting only in order to rob , loot & snatch oil & other natural wealth from others.
Can the rest of the world sit quiet in fear of drones.
No time is coming, west is already exposed & naked ,
WEST MUST BE DESTROYED
Credibility? The USA don't need no stinking credibility!
We got guns & a big military!
But it's profitable for the defense industry. End of story.