Even "Vote Or Die" Movement Leader P.Diddy Admits "This Whole [Voting] $hit Is A Scam"

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Submitted by John Vibes via TheAntiMedia.org,

Some people can really only take so much of the political process before they give up on the system entirely. This is especially true in modern times, where every candidate is pro-war and pro-establishment. Obama was the last hope for many people who thought a politician could change things, but when Obama brought more of the same, some people became awake to the reality that politicians are usually con artists and that the entire political system is a scam.

Even P. Diddy, the rapper formerly known as Puff Daddy, admitted in a recent interview that voting is a scam. This is ironic considering Diddy was the figurehead of the “Vote or Die” movement, which encouraged young people to vote for nearly a decade.

During a Q&A at Revolt’s music conference, Diddy was asked about the upcoming elections — and his answer was surprisingly refreshing.

Diddy told the audience:

“See the things [sic] that’s tricky about politics is there’s so much bullshit with it. We started Vote or Die and… and from the community we’re in, we’re not with hearing too much of the bullshit. So that’s why we get disenfranchised, [we’re] disconnected because nothing that they’re saying actually relates to us… So Vote or Die, and getting out the vote, those things [were] laid out there so people could understand about the process. We started Vote or Die, and the whole process was all full of shit. The whole shit is a scam.”

Diddy said people can vote if they want to, but it probably won’t change anything.

“At the end of the day, I’m not telling you not to vote. But I’m saying be a realist and know that they’re motherfucking kicking some bullshit up there,” he said.

Even if your vote is actually counted (it probably isn’t), it still won’t matter who wins, anyway. They will all carry out the exact same policies with marginally different rhetoric backing them up. It should be obvious by now that this system is not only inherently corrupt. It is failing miserably and in the midst of collapse.

So what do we do? How do we solve these problems? Do we look to authority? Do we put someone else in charge? Of course not! How has that been working out for us? Not very well, right?

Yet when one suggests that everyone needs to give up on voting and take matters into their own hands in their personal lives, people seem to believe that the recommendation compels them to “do nothing.” In reality, the complete opposite is true. Calling for people to abandon voting means advocating doing something to make an impact on the problems that concern them — not simply pushing a button in an election booth, throwing the problem in a politician’s lap, and trusting that something will actually be accomplished.

If anything, that political approach is the lazy way of going about change, while actually working on independent solutions is a truly meaningful action. There is a plethora of ways you can contribute to helping the global situation outside of traditional politics. In fact, you will likely fare much better than politicians at achieving that goal.

Instead of political action, engaging in agorism (building your own non-governmental solutions) is the best way to create real change in the world. Agorism is a strategy of noncompliance that uses counter-economics and underground markets as a way of keeping power in the hands of the people, thus slowly diminishing the power and relevance of the control structure. Growing food, using Bitcoin, teaching children through alternative education, running small businesses without licenses, bartering, and starting community currencies are all examples of agorist activities.

Some agorists are even so bold as to create businesses that will challenge existing state monopolies, like we saw last year when Detroit residents created their own community protection agencies because the police were no longer responding to 911 calls. It is as simple as finding a need in your community for a particular good or service and attempting to provide that value without any sort of interaction with the government or any other third parties. In other words, the idea is to try solving problems yourself — with your community — instead of waiting around for a politician to make the problem worse.

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Kaiser Sousa's picture

obviously Diddys' been kickin' with the Kaiser...

how u like me now.....?

AlaricBalth's picture

The Declaration of Independence states, “Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”

Just a reminder for those who need reminding.

gdogus erectus's picture

Except for the Bitcoin reference, great article.

J Jason Djfmam's picture

More realistically: "Die or die".

A Nanny Moose's picture

Vote, then die. Something about two wolved and a sheep.

Majestic12's picture

Yeah, when I think about the future direction of the global political economy, I think "P-Diddy"....

Do these idiots know that the pants around the knees and the dew rag look came from "prison" in the 40's?

You "signaled" that you were a "bitch" and would take it up the ass by letting your pants low and boxers show...while the dew rag is identical to the "We Can Do It" posters for WWII women in industry.

You guys with shaved heads...same shit.

Amerikkka, home of the "proud" prisoners....

Stop promoting criminality, man-up, be responsible and help turn it all around.

Yeah its fucked up, but not "beyond" repair. It will take away the argument for more militarized police, if we stop promoting corruption and criminality.

pods's picture

He sounds upset beause not enough lip service is paid to the ghetto?

Was he waiting for someone to "apologize?"

Of course voting and the "process" is a scam. Do you think the owners would allow true choice as to how things are run on the Human Farm?

Fuck no.


Normalcy Bias's picture

“If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.” ? Mark Twain

It's been a scam for a long while, it would appear.

HardAssets's picture

Yep - 'they've' talked about "spreading democracy" for a long time.

They Never talk about a Constitutional republic with individual, inalienable human rights.

Propagandist Edward Bernays despised the common folk & loved 'democracy'. He knew how easy it was to manipulate people to 'vote' for whatever the hidden powers-that-be want.

Ward cleaver's picture

There is a reason to vote this time. I want to see Trump debate Cankles and call her a liar to her face. Of course being a sociopath himself who knows what else will come out of these debates, talk about entertainment.

ShorTed's picture

Completely agree...bad case of buyers remorse.

Dick Buttkiss's picture

"Except for the Bitcoin reference, great article."

Great article, including the Bitcoin reference.

There, fixed it for ya.

Four chan's picture

learn from blacks by not doing a single thing they do or listening to a single word they say. 

Lets_Eat_Ben's picture

Learn from black-hearted, souless, sodomites by not doing a single thing they do or listening to a single word they say.


There I fixed it for you

BigJim's picture

 learn from blacks by not doing a single thing they do or listening to a single word they say.

So I should root out all the Hendrix, Miles Davis, Coltrane, Charlie Parker out of my record collection? Steely Dan, too, since they had quite a few Black musicians contributing to their tracks.

In fact... what can I listen to? Salieri and Swedish Death Metal?

Leopold B. Scotch's picture

By not voting, are we funcionally saying we don't agree with the system?

SheepDog-One's picture

That's what I'm doing, I haven't voted in these fraud prez elections in many years. I do t care which wing of the same shit hawk people think is better, you still get the same shitty old hawk.

Dick Buttkiss's picture

You mean chicken hawk, of course, of the "Let's you and him fight" variety.

PT's picture


Of course, the cartoon assumes that there is a difference.

You know, If I fuck up at work, the boss will NOT wait four years before he sacks me.  I'm out straight away.  In theory there is a procedure he has to go through, but in my industry it is very easy to bypass that procedure if need be.

From that perspective, you should be "voting" every day.  Now how could we have a "vote" that would be that fast and effective?

MsCreant's picture

You can "not" vote because you are lazy. If voting mattered that would be sad.

I used to vote, made a big deal out of it with my kid, etc., we are such a great nation, all that horse shit.

I don't vote because what they present me as options and solutions insult my intelligence. "Let's see, horse shit or bull shit, which one?" By exercising my so called right to vote, I take time out of my life to think about them and the propaganda they are presenting me. I consider false choice A or B, ignoring that they have framed my choices by paying for them in the halls of congress. Never mind they do not even keep paper ballots if you need a recount. Our votes do not matter. Taking time to vote helps solidify THEM as somehow powerful and real. 

And even when they get in, and are paid for, the promises that come out of their mouths to get voted in are not kept. 

I don't participate, I don't reify them. 

I will have a gun. I will look to myself first for my own protection. I grow a little bit of my own food, and try to research what I am buying. I cook all my own food and mostly know what is in it. I save, expecting social security not to be there. It was a myth that my government was going to take care of me if I supported them. They are corrupt, used, corporate whores who do not give a shit about you or me. We don't count. Corporate monopolists own the voting and legislative apparatus, that is who counts for them.

Sorry for the rant (okay, not really too sorry).


OverTheHedge's picture

Rather than just not turn up, feel free to go to the voting booth, and write a nice little essay on just why you can't bring yourself to support "them". Most countries have a system whereby spoiled ballots have to be agreed, i.e. was there an intention to vote - tick instead of cross, that sort of thing. If we all spoiled our ballots, as creatively as possibly, it might bring the system down on its own. At the very least, you will have told the relevant people how you feel, which is a bit better than having them assume you couldn't be bothered.

MsCreant's picture

You mean well. THERE IS NO PAPER BALLOT TO WRITE ON WHERE I VOTE. Nuttun' honey, nuttin'!

I raised a stink about this the last time I voted, asked them how they would do a recount if the computers broke down. It was wrong of me. The volunteers looked like deer in the headlights, did not know what to say, I think some did not even understand me. My wrath was misdirected. 

There might be a small space to write in a candidate, but that is going to be smaller than a tweet.

Free speech my ass.

Kahn E. Lingus's picture

“Mass Disruptive Voting” - An act of protest using one of the few approved channels of expression the state allows to totally fuck-up the system.

Normalcy Bias's picture

...and it would've been CRAZY for Diebold (Mfr of most ATM machines) to have designed an encrypted paper voting receipt that could be used by voters and officials alike to verify vote integrity.

KCMLO's picture

FWIW I turn up and vote on local propositions and tend to vote libertarian (though not always).  I DO NOT, however, EVER vote Dem or Repub at any level.  I even expressed this to a local candidate that was libertarian but running as a republican.  I tersely put "I would happily vote for you, but you are listed as a Republican so I will not."  His answer was a succinct critique of how incredibly corrupt the voting process actually is (and said this publicly mind you):  "I ran as a republican merely for ballot access, I am truthfully a libertarian."

KCMLO's picture

Whoops, forgot to include my rationale for WHY I still vote.

If they're going to rig an election, and they will, I'm not going to help them.  I'm going to make them have to alter my record.  I force them to actively break the "law" instead of opting out which eases their process.

Does it matter?  Almost certainly not, but anything that makes these fuckers' lives even slightly harder is ok in my book.

Love the inclusion of Agorism in the article, btw, that's my real philosophy, libertarianism is just the next step towards agorism.

A Nanny Moose's picture

"Let's see, horse shit or bull shit, which one?"

It's all shovel ready.

Baby Bladeface's picture
Baby Bladeface (not verified) MsCreant Oct 26, 2015 3:21 PM


"I don't vote because what they present me as options and solutions insult my intelligence."

Somehow voting option 'none of the above' could democracy improve.

Only in municipal polls available so far, but hey, it is a start...


HardAssets's picture

Not voting in national elections is like choosing not to play the lottery or not play the shell game with a guy on the sidewalk.

" it's a scam, & I know it . No thanks "

I do vote on local issues.

Farqued Up's picture

Yessir, withholding my vote tells them exactly that. At least I will not vote for a warmongering or democracy promoting candidate and hate like hell that I have to pay exorbitant taxes to support the evil system. I refuse to participate in a system where a crack whore with welfare babies are subsidized to the hilt and an illegal motor voter can legally plunder me and have as much voting power as I do.

It's the reverse of what they say, if you vote for one of the scum you have diminished your right to complain and the propagandists state the exact opposite. Think about it. I now look at those little stickers on peoples' shirts (I voted) and just look at them like they are dumbasses. Oh, what a fool I was for years.

I will go vote for any property or freedom grabbing amendments in state and local referenda. I will always try to serve on the jury duty when called and I'm totally up to speed with the tenets and recs of the Fully Informed Jury Association (FIJA).













Turin Turambar's picture

“Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their JUST POWERS from the CONSENT of the governed.”

ROFLMAO!!  Thanks for the giggles.

sleigher's picture

They have manufactured consent.  

Colonel Klink's picture

Um, they're IMPORTING consent.

Bill of Rights's picture

You must be a Liberal retard...

A Nanny Moose's picture

That would be classical liberal. Should we consent to obey the orders of those in positions of power granted by Divine Right of the Majority?

....Majority of those to voted.

yrad's picture

"Talkin bout my generation"

Grandad Grumps's picture

Withdrawing consent is the way to get a new and better government then?

Something tells me that the people who create money (everyone who needs their money is nothing more than a slave) and those with the guns (their hired slave muscle) won't allow nonconsenting people to get rid of them.

Rge only real hope is to find out what those who are the slave masters want (it may be different than we think) and then help them get it in a different way.

Grumbleduke's picture

What if they just want to fuck (with) us?

Do you get to choose the lube? What a nice freedom lover you are.

rejected's picture

There's a difference between governing and herding.

NotApplicable's picture

File me under "Does NOT consent!"

Winston Smith 2009's picture

The Declaration of Independence states, “Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”

At least that's the theory they tell us. Then there's reality.

“Representation”... and “Consent”



pelican's picture

P who? 


Serious question, how do you ask household help to rub one out for you?  Or would it be more polite just to start by oneself.

migra's picture

He is just being himself, an idiot.

Leopold B. Scotch's picture

Stop voting. It only encourages them.

Ghordius's picture

a real electoral protester does vote, but votes for a third candidate or for Mr. "NoneOfThem"

for any well entrenched establishment that one is the real danger, and has to be dissuaded in any way to get to the urn

look! squirrel! look! shopping mall! sales! look! boobs! look! a theory about how vote registration is a contract!

of course this applies only for the Rest Of The World TroughOut Known History. Exceptional countries are different, without saying

hedgeless_horseman's picture



...a real electoral protester does vote, but votes for a third candidate...

A real electoral protester votes from the rooftops.

Ghordius's picture

a successful electoral protester rallies support for (example) the Whig Party to oust the Republican party out of existence (or was it the other way round?)

I am fairly sure that then people were shocked to see one major party that dominated politics for nearly ever to die. I am fairly sure they thought something like that would never happen

rooftops? don't know. usually it's a lonely place, isn't it? in politics (that includes rebellions, revolutions, the works) nothing is ever achieved in lonely places or by lonely people

and I don't see the internet or the social media actually really changing that, only giving the appearence of that

just giving my two cents as hobby historian, and speaking broadly and in generalizations