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Why Is The IRS Spying On Americans' Phone Calls?
Submitted by Derick Broze via TheAntiMedia.org,
Following the first ever congressional hearing on “Stingray” cellphone surveillance, new details reveal the Secret Service and the Internal Revenue Service are also using the controversial spying devices.
At a congressional hearing last Wednesday, officials with the Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security released new details about the federal government’s use of “Stingray” cellphone surveillance. Stingrays, also known as cell site simulators, constitute another example of military tools finding their way into the hands of federal agencies and local police departments across the United States.
According to the Electronic Frontier Foundation:
“The Stingray is a brand name of an IMSI (International Mobile Subscriber Identity) Catcher targeted and sold to law enforcement. A Stingray works by masquerading as a cellphone tower – to which your mobile phone sends signals to every 7 to 15 seconds whether you are on a call or not – and tricks your phone into connecting to it. As a result, the government can figure out who, when and to where you are calling, the precise location of every device within the range, and with some devices, even capture the content of your conversations.”
Elana Tyrangiel, a deputy assistant attorney at the Justice Department, told lawmakers the particular cell site simulators employed by the DOJ do not collect the content of calls. The devices do, however, collect location and the number being dialed.
Much of the discussion at the hearing centered around the use of warrants. In early September, the Justice Department announced rules about how the department will handle the use of Stingrays, including new warrant requirements. After the rules were announced, Senator Patrick Leahy, the ranking member on the Senate’s Judiciary Committee, challenged the warrant exemptions and the overall effectiveness of the rules. According to the District Sentinel, Leahy stated, “I will press the Department to justify them.”
As of last week, the Department of Homeland Security is now following similar rules. Officials warned Congress the devices would be used without obtaining warrants in “time-sensitive, emergency situations.”
California Congressman Ted Lieu, a member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, told CNN he believes “The mass surveillance of peoples’ [sic] cell phone signals requires a warrant.”
The AP reports that during the hearing, Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Seth M. Stodder revealed a new policy that allows the Secret Service to use cell site simulators without a warrant if they believe there is a “nonspecific threat to the president or another protected person.”
Stodder stated that under “exceptional circumstances,” exceptions would be made and use of the device would only require approval from “executive-level personnel” at Secret Service headquarters and the U.S. attorney for the relevant jurisdiction. Despite the exemption, Stodder said the Secret Service would not use the devices in routine criminal investigations.
Just days after the congressional hearing, The Guardian has revealed the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is also making use of the Stingray devices. The Guardian reports:
“Invoices obtained following a request under the Freedom of Information Act show purchases made in 2009 and 2012 by the federal tax agency with Harris Corporation, one of a number of companies that manufacture the devices. Privacy advocates said the revelation “shows the wide proliferation of this very invasive surveillance technology.
The 2009 IRS/Harris Corp invoice is mostly redacted under section B(4) of the Freedom of Information Act, which is intended to protect trade secrets and privileged information. However, an invoice from 2012, which is also partially redacted, reports that the agency spent $65,652 on upgrading a Stingray II to a HailStorm, a more powerful version of the same device, as well as $6,000 on training from Harris Corporation.”
The HailStorm is an upgraded version of the Stingray, which is capable of gathering the actual contents of conversations and images in addition to gathering location and numbers dialed.
The history of the use of Stingrays is filled with secrecy, lies, and redacted documents. The FBI, the Harris Corporation, and local police departments continue to hide the details of how exactly the devices are being used. Should we trust government officials when they tell us they will get a warrant unless “exceptional circumstances” arise? Who defines what exactly “exceptional” means anyway? It would be wise for all those who value privacy and freedom to begin challenging the official narrative and investing in technologies that can counter the State’s surveillance.
We should also take a moment to acknowledge all the activists and journalists who have been working to expose this issue for the last several years. As Christopher Soghoian, an ACLU technologist, pointed out, “This is the first ever congressional hearing on Stingrays. This is a device the FBI started using in 1995. It shouldn’t take 20 years to get a hearing on a surveillance technology.”
It is through the work of the awakened masses that the collective springs into action. Without YOU spreading information through the internet and in the streets, this important topic would not have become part of the national dialogue. However, we must not rest. There is much work to do. For a more in-depth look at the use of Stingrays, please read this investigation.
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When the government goes against it's own people it's tyranny.
Things the Soviet Union did.
We are not far off of what the USSR was.
Dipping below the soviet level perhaps?
Anyone who uses an iPhone or an android deserves what they get. Best phone I ever had was a blackberry knock off from Page Plus.
Apple and Microsoft are digging their own grave with all this spyware crap. First Chinese producer that offers a computer or phone guaranteed not to have spyware on it will get my business. Fucking tired of this Microsoft bullshit and iPhone GPS updates to the NSA.
wrong. no one deserves to be spied on illegally by the government, no matter what phone they use.
that's like saying a girl deserves to get raped if she wears a short skirt.
Don't be such an Islamophone...
The fukin' disgusting incompetent Obozo Admin...
The "most transparent Admin in American history"...
The lying bastard's promise in order to get elected...
TWICE!!!
In response I offer only two words...
Lois Lerner.
obama's irs, since it falls under his branch.
The Republicans would NEVER do this. @_@
Wait, doesn't the 4th amendment require that the "persons or things to be seized" to be described?" Mass data hoovering is seizing people's data. If you don't even know who's data you are seizing, you cannot describ it.
You can build an IMSI Catcher at home with GNU Radio and an USRP for under 500 dollars. Every low-level private detective has one, so of course rogue/criminal government agencies will too.
Anyone not using strong cryptography to transmit sensitive or compromising information is a fool.
As far as I'm concerned this kind of news is positive insofar as it raises awareness and helps privacy become a competitive factor for tech products. And don't forget, the day strong crypto becomes ubiquitous is the day the government's SIGINT and COMINT apparatus becomes worthless.
PS: to be precise, GSM/3G does actually embed crypto, but as an IMSI Catcher carries out what amounts to a man-in-the-middle attack, that protection is useless. Plus that crypto is proprietary, and plus there exists passive GSM sniffers that crack it (actually IMSI Catchers are a very crude way to intercept mobile calls, spies/the military use only passive equipment). So, evidently, I was talking about crypto you deploy yourself, on the application level, that relies on public-key certificates, and that is preferably open source.
Why Is The IRS Spying On Americans' Phone Calls?
It's not weird......they're just really interested in your preteen daughters conversations.
I don't want to build an IMSI catcher, I want to build an IMSI destroyer. THAT would be useful information.
The only effective way to fight technology is to break their toys.
While Wall Street Robber Barons and Bankers steal out in the open with no repurcussions, these agencies need to spend millions on spying on the little peeples for a few thousand?
How about going after sdome of those engaged in over $65 Billion of Medicare/Medicaid fraud also. Seems obvious. Who is running these agencies? They sound misguided or incompetent.
It’s an old adage that small crimes get punished, but large crimes often go unpunished (or are even rewarded).
Eugene O’Neill (1888-1953) wrote in the play The Emperor Jones (1920):
“For de little stealin’ dey gits you in jail soon or late. For de big stelin’ dey makes you Emperor and puts you in de Hall o’ Fame when you croaks.”
+10000
Should we trust government officials when they tell us they will get a warrant unless “exceptional circumstances” arise? Who defines what exactly “exceptional” means anyway?
I'm pretty sure everyone knows that "exceptional" means "American".
The government publicly defined it not so long ago. Obama stood up and read it off his favourite teleprompter.
"Exceptional circumstances" = American circumstances.
And you all thought it was just another case of national narcisistic arrogance...
I take from the tone & tenor of your comment you think this is something that is unique to the US government? I can assure you it is not.
But you go right on thinking your government is "exceptional" ;-)
Your faith that gov would actually follow the Constitution is touching. Like you, I wish it were so.
However, thanks to Manning/Snowden/others, we know that it ain't.
ir s collections must be down.
"Smith, get out there and find a way to get oar revenue!"
"Yessir!"
hyperbole much? How about just saying a short skirt invites stares, like using an iphone invites spying. The girl can choose to wear something more modest and not invite stares, kinda like the phone user can choose a more secure phone to prevent spying. So yes, the user's choice does come with consequences.
She was askin' for it....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwMukKqx-Os
And how does one truly know if their phone is secure?
Simple. It is not.
It is secure if it is placed in thermite and melted into a brick.
Assume that your phone is bugged.
Wow, apparently we have at least 9 social justice warriors here. SJWs will never let people be accountable for their own actions or choices. Always blame the fail on an externality.
Must be the partriarchy, or white privelige right downers?
If a woman wears revealing clothes, she knows goddamn well she's going to be getting attentoin for advertising her fertility. Period. And she should know that some men less able to restrain their animal impulses than others -- that some breeds of men are more civilized that others -- a pit bull is not a cocker spaniel.
But no, we must blame all men because some sluts cannot be secure in their beauty and have to flaunt their assets like a cheap whore. It wasn't ever her fault. It was the patriarchy. Just like when nogs commit crimes, it wsa never their fault, it was white racism that cause it all.
stacking12321,
Your $$$ are your only vote.
Why do individuals continue to wear short skirts... they bought...
and blame the one who sold it to them, when their privacy is raped...
near an unmarked danger zone, of which warnings for are absent.
The 99 monkeys continue to eat bananas WITHOUT removing the skin.
Hello ? Anyone there ?
Nope.
Just one monkey from 100.
Did you stare at the sun until your eyes burnt out as a kid for fun?
I'm waiting for the whistleblower law to be applied to individuals alerting gubmint about what other individuals are saying. Say $100 for non PC comments followed by some reeducation camp.
Think we'll get that far before a typical austrian-styled collapse?
The whistle blower laws are a very effective way of trapping and punishing whistle blowers. That kenyan nigger sure is good at lying and deceiving.
Not only did they monitor phone conversations, wired peoples apartments and paid informers but most people couldn't get a phone. There were no published phone books and no maps.
My aged cousin said in WWII the Germans had maps and the Soviets had few if any. He should know because he was there.
The German movie "The Lives of Others" (available on Netflix as DVD) is based on a book written by a 30 year Stasi agent.
Your statements correlate well to the movie. And there's much more.
It gives good insight on police state mindsets and old-fashioned spying tactics.
It's worth a watch if you can handle subtitles or if you speak German.
"The White Roses" is another good movie about police state tactics, this time set in WWII Germany focusing on a group of student dissidents who were anti-Nazi, also available on Netflix.
Both are well done and thought provoking IMO.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/27/military-priorities/
The thing I find amazing is that nobody grasps what happens next, inevitably. We will, very soon, be stopped from making war because we can't pay for it. In fact, many things will stop because we can't pay for them.
But nothing is done to prevent the disaster that will be, our troops will withdraw under fire at the time of maxium hatred and enemies, and will come home to starving SS beneficiaries and retired police without electricity, ...
Hang congress.
Finally, a clairvoiant who sees clearly.
Rise up!
At least they aren't bombing US hospitals yet.....knock on wood.
Heh heh....always think positive....and support your local fusion center.
This spying shit has go t to STOP!
The IRS and NSA need to be ELIMINATED.
When the United States Citizen is the least protected in our country, and considered "terrorists" and "problems< it is a high time for a revolution.
The IRS with a spy setup???? And Lois Lerner was let go for her illegal actions. The IRS is now a criminal operation, OFICIALLY!
Im not too worried about them listening to my phone calls. Typical IRS goons like learner have sub-80 I.Q.s. As far as the tax LLMs and the current leader (phD physics) that might barely be within 50 points of me ...
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" -Upton Sinclair
Probaly sounds like all beeps and boops to them ....
Great, another dickwad who thinks his superior IQ buys him something. (Survival?)
Might consider for starters that intelligence, while a being a valued attribute, is most certainly not a virtue.
Virtues are things like humility, loyalty, honesty, mercy and have nothing to do with processor capacity. More like imbedded software.
Conversely, room temp IQ's are very dangerous when lacking virtues but possessing the tools of gov't.
something about "professing themselves to be wise they become as fools"
+1000. could not have said it better myself ... ;-) But this guy can.
Josh Thompson - Way Out Here (youtube)OK, you first. You go put an end to the IRS. You put an end to the NSA.
I don't mean to put a damper on your fun, but exactly what do you think you can do? Peaceful protest? You will be ignored and marginalized, no matter how many your numbers. Armed insurrection? You will be slaughtered, even if they have to use as many as 1% of their 4 billion recently-purchased bullets.
Frankly, I think they are HOPING something like that will be tried. They would love nothing more than proving how invaluable they are to "peace loving" American sheep by putting down a rebellion.
Don't worry, though. They'll gin up another war and get everyone to rally around the flag before that happens.
They'll gin up another war and get everyone to rally around the flag before that happens.
Oportunity knocks NoDebt ;)
'Murica?
MSM Commentators after the Benghazi hearing last week have been preaching that we can avoid all the drama if just set up permanent large military deployments like we did in South Korea and Japan. Billions of tax dollars per year. Most specifically in Afghanistan, but also Iraq, Libya, Egypt. One pro-Hillary "intelligence" analyst on CNN said that largely all the US military does in South Korea is "drink lots of alcohol" but it still provides a stabilizing effect.
Wondering after recent events if the MIC would rather just come home and drink alcohol here with us tax slaves serving them directly. We could still be subserviant but cut out some of the expensive middlemen.
Massive Earthquake Hits Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Leaving At Least 12 DeadNodebt, there ALREADY IS resistance taking place.
People are boycotting the ponzi economy by the 10's of millions. Many more are in the black market, working for cash or trade. People are waking up and are angry, but they have families to support so they have no choice but to participate in the fraud. There will be a tipping point.
Personally I went galt recently. I gave up a high paying job that I realized was feeding a phoney money ponzi that will eventually ruin us all. So now I will be collecting obama care subsidies (even though I nerve go to docs). Taking a drop of blood from the beast instead of giving it to him.
Stop being so immature and impatient. You can't go straight to armed resistance unless you are mentally imbalanced. Things have to get A LOT WORSE.
“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed;
if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
Winston S. Churchill
http://www.constitution.org/mil/tn/batathen.htm
"Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." - Winston Churchill
"Never in the field of political conflict was so much damage done to so many by so few of us" - Barack Obama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCdBuNLbV18
"OK, you first. You go put an end to the IRS. You put an end to the NSA.
I don't mean to put a damper on your fun, but exactly what do you think you can do? Peaceful protest? You will be ignored and marginalized, no matter how many your numbers. Armed insurrection? You will be slaughtered, even if they have to use as many as 1% of their 4 billion recently-purchased bullets.
Frankly, I think they are HOPING something like that will be tried. They would love nothing more than proving how invaluable they are to "peace loving" American sheep by putting down a rebellion.
Don't worry, though. They'll gin up another war and get everyone to rally around the flag before that happens."
OH! I get it!....you actually have insider operational knowledge of this "they" you speak of.
Well that is interesting....I seem to remember a war in a peasant country about the size of the state of Missouri with a small population of rice farmers. The greatest military country in the world occupied it, had 500,000 troops on the ground and complete mastery of the skies. Gun ownership was not widespread but a small group called the Viet Cong was armed and from 1965 to 1974 that awesome military power, using napalm, carpet bombing and every other means at its disposal could not dislodge its timy poorly armed foe, and was forced to leave in disgrace. It's military was a broken force and remained so for ten years after the debacle ended. When you think you are invinciple...that is when you get your ass handed to you.
Ah yes, a "small group" armed and financed to the hilt by the USSR. Not that the VC weren't brave and able fighters, but they didn't pull all that hardware out of their ass.
and you're poorly prepared ?
Haha, yes, and McPain was shot down by a Russian SAM.
Any group who can credibly cause problems for US .gov wouold find plently of support from Russia, if not China. Putin wants a piece of Obama's candy-ass.
If Putin wants a piece of Bambam's ass, he'll have to wait in line behind Reggie...
Neocons vs commies
That's one war in which I care not the death toll.
+1000
Exactly, because there really is no "they" as we often like to think. There exists a small cadre of evil-minded screwballs at the top and a bunch of disorganized followers and technies completing the clusterfuck.
It's increasingly all about the money. Sooner or later the Fed will become irrelevant in the bigger scheme of things because the rest of the world continues to watch as we lay waste to the value of anything and everything.
Tax dollars support this horrific mess and I don't know how much longer that revenue stream holds up.
You should look at how many rounds get fired in modern combat vs how many people get killed, then consider that the bulk of what they purchase is pistol ammunition. It will really put things into perspective for you.
Don't worry - the U.S. has C-130 gunships and knows where the hospitals are... We'll still get 'em!
/sarc off
Remember this when some guy or girl in a uniform is thanked for keeping our country "free".
Bullshit.
They got wet, shot, maimed for NOTHING. But the bankers wars.
Should have become missonaries.
The IRS is the collection agency for the Fed. And if anyone believes they are not gathering content and just "metadata", I have a bridge to sell you.
A down vote? My guess is you already sold that bridge to someone.
Rehypothicated bridges, it's all the rage right now.
Got a bridge-backed security to sell ya
Fight Club badge of honor. Aparently lots of us got somebodies attention in this thread.
There are statists here. They downvote things they fear, don't understand, and that clash with what authority figures told them to believe. It's good they are here, exposed to alternative views. Only way to grow out of false beliefs.
what's with the down vote, i mean, really?
"California Congressman Ted Lieu, a member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, told CNN he believes “The mass surveillance of peoples’ [sic] cell phone signals requires a warrant."
What a noob. As if Congress was in any way relevant any more. You can shove that opinion right up your ass, Ted. They don't give a shit about you or me or anybody. They're all about protecting themselves now. All you're going to do if you persisist in that line of inquiry is get yourself hot-tubbed or blown up in a Mercedes with the self-ejecting engine feature.
Signs of an empire in decline.
Because they can. Without fear of penalty.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
-TJ
When people fear they are going to miss the next episode of Kardashians there is apathy.
When famous Olympic atheletes change their sex at 65 to make more $$ off TV, the train has run off the track.
"Woman of the Year"... with a dick.
I prefer 'Babe with balls'
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
"When people fear not having entertainment but don't mind full spectrum surveillance there is insanity."
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"When corporations that develop and sell chains to enslave the American people worry about local reaction to their treason there will be more peace in the land. Well, maybe not at first but when the smoke clears."
Harris Corp. Governmental Communications Division
1000 Charles J. Herbert Drive
Palm Bay, FL USA 32905
If you would stop using cell phones, this problem would go away. I guess it is too much of an inconvenience so keep consenting to be spied upon.
I don't get it, before the common usage of cell phones no body felt deprived. Now zombies walk around looking at these things all god damned day long. Yeah, I know it is a neat gadget but it is expensive and you are allowing your rights to be usurped. This is paying for your own slavery.
If only people would go back to utilizing horses for transportation, nobody would ever have to submit to driver's license requirements, or be forced to pay insurance, blah blah blah blah. Hush child. Stick to your coloring books. Adults are speaking.
Actually I have thought about this. If I ever get my license pulled for some bullshit like non-payment of student loans or something I would ride a horse everywhere and cause distrubances in traffic as a form of protest. Plus I like horses.
Would get one of these: http://www.datadiary.com/wallpaperzoom/1479/bhaloo?Page=6
good looking boy, but not the type of horse you need if shtf.
http://www.horsemanmagazine.com/2008/08/top-5-horse-breeds-for-trail-rid...
http://trailridermag.com/article/selecting-trail-horse-15129
a good quarter/arab cross is for you, get 1 now and learn.
Arabs can be just as bad as they can be awesome. If you are going to get one, go for one that is bred for working or racing. If you compare them to one of the ones bred for show, you will swear that there bones in the working horse's legs that don't exist in the show horse's legs. A lot of the show horses are bred to be dainty.
And they have a different mindset than a lot of other horses, so keep that in mind. It's neither good nor bad, unless you are used to one mindset and cannot work with the other.
Then again, I had a equine vet tell me once "If horses were like donkeys, there would only be one vet in Albuquerque." Yeah, donkeys ain't glorious, and they ain't hip, but they tend to not injure themselves.
My third ex, was an avid equestrian. So I learned about horses. At the stable, a friend of hers, boarded a full blooded Arab. Buddy was the descendant of the Polish War Horses, that went up against the Germans in WW II. It didn't take long for Buddy to take stock of me. I'd pull up and at the gate, he'd already have his head sticking out of the stall, a full hundred feet away. I sensed his disdain, even from that distance. "You can't handle this, I already know you're an amateur rider, so don't even try", was the message I got from his steady, but impertinent gaze. Unlike many horses, he would look you, eye to eye, directly.
Sometime later, I got to try him out and he was pretty adamant about who he thought should be in charge. They are very smart and big on personality. You definitely have to be an experienced rider to handle a full blooded Arab.
No, get one of these bad boys.
https://index.co/uploads/lists/a981c586ee454b2f0210d64d013870dab46332c8....
Your condensation is not even dripping with sarcasm. Do you really enjoy being you?
Save a horse - ride a cowgirl!
What a feeling of liberation the day I canceled my verizon contract for good, been nearly four years now- same thing with landline, Ooma device under four bucks a month..
Cell phones should be used just like Facebook. Which should be just photos of kids, puppies, cats, graduations, and weddings. Just use it like you were sharing with Grandma and that is it. Posting anything political or too personal on Facebook is foolish. Cell phones are no not private, so use them with the same caution.
The smart phone has increased the efficiency of my business 300%. It is a great tool.
Who in the government does not get to spy on us all?
"Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Seth M. Stodder"
Always the kosher a*hole in the mix. I need to dumb down my phone.
I truly hate the government. It is poison, produces nothing, takes everything, worth nothing.
because they are too stupid to read the tax code
The IRS must be using the new spy system to monitor call quality - their motto is only slightly different than Verizon - "We can hear you now".
What if we band together and just make a commitment to send pictures of our dicks to 10 people every day? Every day it has to be a group comprised of 10 different people. This would have to screw things up. I don't know what our other options are.
And with all these fucking people spying all over the fucking place why can't they stop these insane people from mass shootings? None of this shit has made us any safe whatsoever.
They aren't spying to stop terrorism or catch criminals.
They are spying to collect taxes lol
You think they care if some crazy terrorist fuck kills one of us? They want it to happen to they can collect death taxes.
"send pictures of our dicks to 10 people every day"
And one day, you'll get a notice from the IRS that you owe them a few good licks.
You're not already sending 10 dick pics a day? What's wrong with you?
Anthony Weiner tried it, it did not work, plus he got sidetracked by some chicks.
He is a great beard for Hitlery's lover, though...
Because there is no opposition?
Why Is The IRS Spying On Americans' Phone Calls?
Because their Supervisors blocked the Gay Porn Sites from the computer system.
There is opposition. But in the development of every revolution there is a phase, such as the one we are in now, where the calculus favors passive resistance over violence.
The nice thing about calculus is that it deals with the derivative (rate of change) and second order derivative (acceleration) associated with a function.
Math is on our side on this one.
Dear NSA Fucktards,
Mass surveliance only works if you don't know you are being survailed.
If I am going to misbehave I will just assume I am being watched and I'll tape my fucking phone to a drone and have a friend send you on a wild goose-chase while on my op
Dumbshits
Where exactly in the Constitution does it state that the POTUS is above the law, or that the law does not apply to those that guard him. Half the country wants him dead. Does that mean that the feds can spy on anyone who hates obola without a warrant?
I don't think half the population wants him dead. Half wants moar free stuff and half wants him in prison as a war criminal. Hitlery could join him. Reggie and Huma could have conjugal visits.
Did you guys know the author of the Patriot Act is actually a Vietnamese boat refugee? I shit you not. Google Viet Dinh. This cocksucker came to the US when he was 10. Born and raised in a Vietnamese family IN Vietnam. The co-author of enhanced interrogations memo that authorized Shrub Jr. to circumvent 100+ years of US military treatment of POWs, John Yoo, a Korean immigrant piece of shit? Barry Soetorro, you POTUS, some half-African import. And god-knows how many other of these Trojan horse cocksuckers......
You see a connecting thread here? These fucking IMMIGRANTS, with scant connection to the United States, lacking any HERITAGE or historical tie-ins to the LEGAL TRADITIONS of our Bill or Rights and come in here and start shaping our Constitution to suit their Confucian /African tribal or whateverthefuck other inclinations.
And THAT'S WHY I'm opposed to rampant immigration, and particularly permitting these half-baked non-Americans access to the levers of power.
America is under attack all right. It's under attack from 5th columnists we readily allow in with open arms and unsuspicious minds.
This Ted Lieu piece-of-shit is some cocksucking Taiwanese fascist import. Born and raised in Taiwan. "California legislator" my ass.
WAKE.THE.FUCK.UP.
Ironic, that we had McArthyism in the US through the 50s going after mythological communists when we have actual anti-American insurgents walking amongst us overthrowing our Constitutional traditions day-by-day guised as "Americans" occupying the highest offices of US government.
Please note that Ted Lieu was opposed to this surveillance. Reading comprehension is hard but if you keep trying I know you'll get it right!
You're on the right track, but check the Israeli-American dual citizens running things now, and the links to NeoCon Zionist control for the last hundred years.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002FSHVJS?keywords=the%20international...
that would be for starters...
Ted Lieu is consistent with the long line of "exceptional" representatives of California, such as Pelosi, Boxer and Walters.
Fuck you, who cares?
Immigrants pick your food and wipe your ass, bitch. They are everywhere and create more beauty and value than any harm you're harping about.
Be grateful to them. Be grateful they don't lynch you ungrateful turd
What the fuck did you just say?
I smell a low T Swedish man, or a high T swedish femcunt here.
Hey baby, when you get raped in Stockholm, tell us how it went.
When you're forced to marry a 50 year old Muslim and get the privilege of a clitorectomy let us backward racist hillbilly redneck white trash Americans know how much you enjoyed it, because our women will only get to read about it. They'll never live it like you.
And if you're a man, then you ought to be ashamed of yourself for allowing your women to cuckhold you with a bunch of sub-100 IQ medieval brutes.
That is your future, and I would imagine that the real Nordic avengers would string your ass up right next to the aforementioned brutes.
Machines pick your food. Every five years, human labor in agriculture is reduced about 30%.
Example: Vineyards and orchards. What used to take 30 people, can be done with 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i62juq8Euk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKT351pQHfI
Its little Ewik with a new account and a new attitude.. You whities better appreciate the economic immigrant or Ewik will get you..
Why dont you go back to wacking off to pictures of Justin Beeeber, you little iron maiden fruit...the adults are talking here...
Nice Surveillance Van you got there... be a shame if something happened to it...
Elana Tyrangiel...cheesepope! Any surprise?
And someone please explain to me how "emergency, time sensitive" overrules the Constitution without a judge signing off on it under due process? FUCK THIS GOVERNMENT!
Who does all this redacting of government texts. Remarkably similar to the people in George Orwell's book 1984 who "rewrote" history and changed "facts" to support the system, who willingly spied on their fellow man/woman. Remarkably similar. Surely these people know what they are doing and why.
Stinge-ray. There fixed it
If there is one thing america does better than anything else, it's paranoia. That's why they go around attacking everyone, because they think everyone is out to get them ... oh hang on!
100 trillion dollars of unpaid entitlements and foreign friendly/hostile nations, and a Bank Full of Jews. Goy are going to have their descendents' future/fate determined by how much they've paid in and/or extracted from the system. Blacks are going to be sent back to their homeland where no one is happy. There isn't a person alive holding a Social Security card who will be spared, even petite women living alone in a carved out patch in the high mountainous terrain of Chile (just like a drug king pin!).
DNA 73923718392 owes: $14,000,000,022.17 (lifelong welfare recipient)
DNA 23292303532 owes: $19,999,999,999.00 (Bush's Base. Because they can.)
Govt/elected officials of the ghoulish persuasian will be in charge of counting the minutes/hours of work. When paid off, you DNA is free to go to the grave. We are watching mass murder unfold on a scale never seen before in recorded history and NO ONE is talking about it.
Where are our heroes? Preparing for the eulogy and some fancy schmancy speech will make everyone feel better and voila...it is like ~it never happened~.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu4QLu2ppsc 3 doors down Kyptronite
I guess they just felt 'left-out', besides, all the other uncool kids are doing it...
Short Harris Corporation.
...and go long on gun manufacturers and carrier pidgeons
like frogs in a pot ever increasing heat
when there is no law that is blind, as al gore said: "no controlling legal authority"..there is no reason not to collect private info, extort via taxes,(thanks ms lerner)..step back and look at the IRS.. it is just a bot tasked with extracting wealth from the sheep class, for control of the population, you pastors know, if you are too political in the sermon, you loose that tax free status..funny that.
I never got a cell phone because I don't like to talk on the phone. Unless I am expecting a call, I generally do not even answer the phone at home. Get rid of it and there's no problem. As for being tracked, the government has myriad ways to track you. Total government is already a reality. Way too late to worry about that and I do not worry about it because I know where it leads: Bankruptcy and dissolution of the government like in the old USSR. No one has to do a thing to make that happen, either. In fact, the less you do, the sooner it will happen.
The US has a number of Fusion Centers. These tie in all the local CCTV surveillance. This includes participating private partners. And, there are tie-ins to the CCTV sensors along the interstates/freeways. License plate readers can be sent out on patrol cars, too.
Now, the d hs has built a second cell-phone network. They can shut down parts or all of the civilian network but keep operating nationally over their private cell phone network.
There are ways to counter-atack this, but for obvious reasons I won't describe them. Fact is, I installed a lot of this stuff, so I might be breaking the law if I did.
However, I noticed the guys I worked with, like me, were suspicious of the stuff. Anyway, if the .gov goes full retard, you can expect a lot of this spy stuff will start to "malfunction."
A lot of NG and LE are against this, too, so expect some defectors if things get weird.
Use some common sense, stay off social networks, be careful on the phone, and (gasp) have a face to face conversation with your associates if you want some privacy. The extra effort is worth it.
So all this and they still couldn't catch the Clintons !!! What a nation the American public has built and all this in the wonderful "democracy" people all around the world are being killed for so they can have it forced down their throats.
Why Not, everybody else is, Who Hoo.
No wait, it's to keep you safe ;)
I can't wait to welcome Russian troops to my city with champagne and ticker tape.
Putin in 2016!
"because it is a fluid situation"
Don’t we all have multiple phones?
That’s why there is TracPhone.
Bleat?
Bleat…. Bleat! Bleat.
Because the USA is great at the aquisition of resourses and killing societies.
When technology does bad stuff, technology is no longer used. Productivity does not increase as much as it should and our GDP reduces and so does Tax revenues.....
Unintended consequences....
Never fear, the DOJ will do the right thing.
This is the kind of bullshit political comment that really pisses me off. It sounds like Leahy intends to put limits on this activity. But, implicit in the statement is the possibility (and likely intent) that he only wants to help the Justice Department to justify what’s going on. This is regulatory capture in its most subtle sinister form. It’s not about stopping or limiting anything. It’s only about going through the motions of justifying and rationalizing the perps doing what ever they god damned feel like doing.
Why can't they issue a cease and desist order until this thing gets sorted out? That's what they would do to you and me.
They SWEAR they are not using these devices for routine law enforcement. You can trust them. They just want to protect the president. Just how fucking gullible do these people think we are anyway?
"Just how fucking gullible do these people think we are anyway?"
Very. Exhibit A - Obama was elected and then re-elected.
'Rally 'round the Bradley, with a pocket full of shells...'
I was watching Bernie Sanders on Charlie Rose last night. I know I know but I wanted to hear what he actually said.
I will say this he says all the right things in terms of the MIC and Wall Street being a problem. He says all the right things about the oligarchy.
My kids love the guy go figure? That's the tell that not all is right with this guy.
He's mixing in some faux populism with a dash of socialist unicorn skittles and some one worldish crap that just is nauseating.
Most of what he says makes sense EXCEPT for the part where he starts talking about gun control and well how to run a reality based functioning economy that doesn't reward sloth and stupidity.
The free market is harsh it actually fails businesses and I get the impression that most people would prefer a government job. Much safer and less stress.
Europe here we come!
Police state monitoring will be the police state monitor's doom.
Snowden