This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.

Worst News Ever? World Health Organization Says Steak "Probably" Causes Cancer

Tyler Durden's picture




 

Back in June, we highlighted the sobering and yet totally unsurprising fact that Americans are, at the risk of being crass, getting fatter all the time.

Researchers had just released a new report based on data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey and the conclusions were not encouraging. Around 35 percent of men and 37 percent of women are obese, the researchers said, adding that another 40 percent of men and 30 percent of women are overweight. In all then, some 74% of men are at risk, a rather precipitous increase over the past several decades:

And while none of that is particularly surprising given the proliferation of processed food and ready availability of 84 ounce Big Gulps at the local 7 Eleven, what was shocking about the report is the following: "This generation of Americans is the first that will have a shorter life expectancy than the previous generation, and obesity is one of the biggest contributors to this shortened life expectancy because it is driving a lot of chronic health conditions.”

Of course Americans are used to their sedentary lifestyle and have become accustomed to gorging themselves at meal time and if persisting in such creature comforts means shaving a few years off their lifespans well, for most people that’s probably a reasonable trade off. 

But while Americans may not be frightened of heart attacks, they’re still generally scared of cancer and so one way to get everyone to stop blowing themselves up like balloons might be to make people scared to eat. Cue the World Health Organisation (via Reuters):

Eating processed meat can lead to bowel cancer in humans while red meat is a likely cause of the disease, World Health Organisation (WHO) experts said on Monday in findings that could sharpen debate over the merits of a meat-based diet.

 

The France-based International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), part of the WHO, put processed meat such as hot dogs and ham in its group 1 list, which already includes tobacco, asbestos and diesel fumes, for which there is "sufficient evidence" of cancer links.

 

"For an individual, the risk of developing colorectal (bowel) cancer because of their consumption of processed meat remains small, but this risk increases with the amount of meat consumed," Dr Kurt Straif of the IARC said in a statement.

 

Red meat, under which the IARC includes beef, lamb and pork, was classified as a "probable" carcinogen in its group 2A list that also contains glyphosate, the active ingredient in many weedkillers.

 

The lower classification for red meat reflected "limited evidence" that it causes cancer. The IARC found links mainly with bowel cancer, as was the case for processed meat, but it also observed associations with pancreatic and prostate cancer.

Got that? Steak is now in the same category as weedkiller (Monsanto execs are laughing somewhere).


Here’s more color from Bloomberg

The red meat study is just the latest of many that WHO has conducted since the 1970s, when it set out to identify and catalogue suspected carcinogens. The organization’s International Agency for Research on Cancer has evaluated 984 agents, from chemicals to careers, that can be linked to cancer.

 

They fall into one of five classifications, according to the strength of the evidence: agents or activities that definitely, probably, or possibly cause cancer in humans; those that probably don’t cause cancer; and those for which the evidence is inconclusive.

 

It’s important to note that the agents at the top aren’t necessarily the most dangerous. They’re the ones with the clearest evidence of hazard. WHO seeks to identify carcinogens “even when risks are very low at the current exposure levels, because new uses or unforeseen exposures could engender risks that are significantly higher,” the agency says. In other words, even though WHO has determined that red meat is a carcinogen, the report doesn’t quantify how much meat it would take to cross into the danger zone.

 

Full infographic here

The question now, we suppose, is whether this will be used as an excuse for government to begin ever so gradually enacting a set of paternalistic regulations on red meat and Lunchables in an all too familiar attempt by lawmakers to save us from ourselves.

Guard your steaks.

 

- advertisements -

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:12 | 6713972 Looney
Looney's picture

When it comes to meat, what could be tastier than a 3-day old ROADKILL covered with maggots?

Just add some salt, garlic, and pepper-spray it and… it’s Finger-Lickin’ Gewd!!! :-)

Looney

P.S. I ain't no vagi-terian!  ;-)

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:13 | 6714004 johnconnor
johnconnor's picture

is there anything that doesn't cause cancer nowdays?

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:15 | 6714011 Raymond_K._Hessel
Raymond_K._Hessel's picture

only cancer has not been found to not cause cancer.

Causes the hiv, tho'.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:30 | 6714082 Pinto Currency
Pinto Currency's picture

 

Red meat kills?

How about big gov (democide)?

http://www.fact-index.com/d/de/democide.html

 

 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:45 | 6714170 johnvallo
johnvallo's picture

With the process it takes to actually eat meat, we probably aren't supposed to consume it 2-3 times a day like most people in the developed world. Imagine a world without meat packing factories. How in the world are you supposed to kill, drain, skin, butcher, cure and cook enough animals to eat meat multiple times per day? Impossible. Alas, but not with industrialization - that magical miracle that destroys everything it touches!

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:05 | 6714291 negative rates
negative rates's picture

Don't believe a word these knucklers say, they get their info from bill oriely and cnbc, they are as reliable and clueless as the Fed.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:13 | 6714330 Majestic12
Majestic12's picture

"Steak "Probably" Causes Cancer"

Just had a 28oz, Grass-fed, organic Porterhouse!

Problem solved...mmmm, damn good!

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:04 | 6714561 californiagirl
californiagirl's picture

Love it! My favorite is organic, grass fed, dry-aged ribeye.

this report is just another stepping stone in Agenda 21 implementation. Farms and livestock bad. test tube meat and hydroponic, nutrient-deficient produce grown in high rise building under fluorescent lights is good. If you are going to block at 50% of all land from human access, and severely restrict another 30 to 40%, you are going to have to get rid of farms.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:13 | 6714595 johngaltfla
johngaltfla's picture

Another reason to get the US out of the UN and quit funding these loser groups of commies.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 21:04 | 6714778 Bullionaire
Bullionaire's picture

(Monsanto execs are laughing somewhere).

 

Exactly. This is payback for fucking with glyphosate.

Tue, 10/27/2015 - 07:30 | 6715819 N2OJoe
N2OJoe's picture

Well if it's equally as carcinogenic as glyphosate, then there's nothing to worry about right? Riiight??

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 21:55 | 6714977 A Nanny Moose
A Nanny Moose's picture

Indeed. Unproductive bureaucrats...the same peep holes who brought us the food pyramid, and are obviously at the beck and call of their benefactors...commenting on diet. No good can come of it.

Tue, 10/27/2015 - 01:41 | 6715528 Four chan
Four chan's picture

the w.h.o. created aids so they would know.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:06 | 6714297 greenskeeper carl
greenskeeper carl's picture

Ok, so PROCESSED meat causes cancer. Like fucking hot dogs. No fucking shit. Anyone who doesn't know those things are full of garbage is an idiot. I eat red meat all the time, and I am most definitely not obese, nor do I love a sedentary lifestyle. Also, is it the meat that's causing cancer, or is it the steriods and hormones and antibiotics they inject the animals with, which you then eat, that's causing cancer? Obviously eating red meat all the time is a bad idea, your digestive system isn't built for that. But I feel pretty safe eating my grass fed organic beef.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:20 | 6714358 TBT or not TBT
TBT or not TBT's picture

We are made of meat to a pretty large degree.   Cooking meat, particularly over fire, can produce cyclic molecules with benzene like structures that are.away from goodness.  But I read an article that says eating a bit of broccoli and/or roasted peppers etc together with the BBQed meat prevents the cooking side effect chemicals from doing their worst.   Im going with that!

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:22 | 6714367 TBT or not TBT
TBT or not TBT's picture

Processed meats with added nitrites and nitrates serve you up with nitrosamines when you cook them.  Prefer nitrite free uncured.   

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:46 | 6714473 Overfed
Overfed's picture

Yup. I spend a little extra for the nitrate/nitrite-free uncured bacon and dogs myself. I don't know if they're any healthier, but I do think they taste better. Of course no-nitrate/nitrite tend to be premium products, so that could be it, too.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 21:37 | 6714923 Doubleguns
Doubleguns's picture

Pink slime is what does it. /s

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:45 | 6714471 johnvallo
johnvallo's picture

Yeah cooking is just one part of the process (the process we're most familiar with). You forgot killing, draining, skinning, cutting and curing. I don't think we were meant to do it that often.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:47 | 6714713 nmewn
nmewn's picture

You do realize that there are people on this earth who want to control everything you do, everything you say, everything you see, everything you read, everything you think...right down to what you eat...to just conform mildly, timidly to the flavor of the hour.

In response to all this I've decided to take up drugs, smoking, drinking, violent acts, cursing and uncaring of anything or anyone else but myself, just being a general nuisance to the "politically correct-polite society" of today I find around me.

In this way I can be assured my final wish of NOT BEING AN ORGAN DONOR is fulfilled.

What goes around comes around ;-)

Tue, 10/27/2015 - 07:50 | 6715666 Urban Redneck
Urban Redneck's picture

Because Smithfield market hasn't been selling meat daily for 1000 years?  

I just heard the sad news that the butcher shop I used to use in London is closing after 200 years to make way for moar iCrap.  

It's the iCrap (and catering to the mass production tastes of the iCrap generations of consumers) that causes cancer among individuals & societies.

-

The limited perspective of the study's authors is also shocking.  Processed meat used to make up a much larger share of the average individual's meat consumption (particularly prior to the widespread use of refrigeration and outside of cities).  Yes, Old McDonald probably only salted, canned, smoked, and otherwise processed meats several times a year, but he did so so that he could enjoy processed dead animals year-round on his farm...  But why the feigned ignorance on the part of the authors with respect to the practices of Ronald McDonald and ADM, it's not like the study isn't aiming to reduce their rackets.  The devil is in the details, inputs + processing = outputs.  Only in the mind of an pseudo-science economist is ceteris paribus a valid assumption.    

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 21:14 | 6714828 msmith9962
msmith9962's picture

Also drinking beer.  Brocolli or beer and you are off scott free.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 21:59 | 6714998 A Nanny Moose
A Nanny Moose's picture

Screw broccoli. I am going with beer.

Tue, 10/27/2015 - 00:57 | 6715467 TBT or not TBT
TBT or not TBT's picture

Eat your peas. 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:41 | 6714693 FlSapo
FlSapo's picture

 Also, is it the meat that's causing cancer, or is it the steriods and hormones and antibiotics they inject the animals with, which you then eat, that's causing cancer? 

 - If it is not,then the GMO Corn based Bullshit they feed the Bovinae Ought to do it....

Tue, 10/27/2015 - 00:48 | 6715456 oooBooo
oooBooo's picture

This study by WHO had a very low threshold for "processed". If you added salt or any seasoning it was considered processed. So basically they did what they could to inflate the numbers.Basically if you did anything normal people do to cook and eat meat it was considered processed.

Remember WHO is going to side with those who want us in dense cities eating soylent green.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 21:48 | 6714961 SilverDOG
SilverDOG's picture

 

 

 

In order to run a mmilitary you must feed it.

The MIC has EBT cousins.

Why else invade & deploy cattle for hundreds of years.

Brits to baby Brits(USA).

Same food. Same complex.

 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:17 | 6714013 Looney
Looney's picture

... is there anything that doesn't cause cancer nowdays?

Yes! Being 6 feet under will never cause cancer, I hear. ;-)

Looney

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:18 | 6714025 MillionDollarAnus
MillionDollarAnus's picture

Fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds come to mind. You know, all the stuff that most people refuse to eat because their tastes have become so perverted by society. 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:44 | 6714178 BurningFuld
BurningFuld's picture

Ya I know that's what the Eskimo's survived on.  Nothing but a fruit diet.  FOR FUCK'S SAKE DUDE!

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:54 | 6714244 ForTheWorld
ForTheWorld's picture

Both of you open your fucking brains for a second and realise that environment-specific diets are the norm. So of course an Eskimo is going to eat meat, because that's what you're going to preserve in the summer and eat in the winter. South East Asians are going to have diets higher in fruits, nuts and vegetables because they grow all year round. People with access to everything are going to eat everything.

Fuck all you stupid fucks who can't see past their sphincters.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 22:59 | 6715207 dark pools of soros
dark pools of soros's picture

McD's Hashbrowns 24/7 now !!

 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 22:01 | 6715001 A Nanny Moose
A Nanny Moose's picture

Do yellow snow cones count?

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 23:06 | 6715221 cornflakesdisease
cornflakesdisease's picture

You're living up to your name.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:19 | 6714350 TuPhat
TuPhat's picture

Is there any reason to trust the UN for anything?  All they did is review studies that were performed for other reasons and then claim to find a statistical link between red meat and bowel cancer.  They did not actually perform a scientific study with a control group and keep other variables involved the same for both groups.  This is an unscientific failed study meant to cause alarm and get everyone to stop eating meat.  If you humbly obey then they will come up with other things they will tell you to do, for your own good of course.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:38 | 6714426 TBT or not TBT
TBT or not TBT's picture

The substitute item for evil evil animal products is always grains and grain derived processed foods.  They're the cheapest possible calories.  They got in the fedgov food pyramid right at the base on the recommendation of a comittee run by a corn/grain belt senator and failed lefty presidential candidate.  

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:14 | 6714598 californiagirl
californiagirl's picture

 Is there any reason to trust the UN for anything? 

Not if you realize that they have posted their agenda, (Agenda21) on their website and have spent some time looking at it.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:24 | 6714371 robertsgt40
robertsgt40's picture

You don't suppose it cout be the sht in the meat, do ya? Lucky for me I can't afford steak.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:46 | 6714469 californiagirl
californiagirl's picture

"Is there anything that doesn't cause cancer nowadays?"

Not if Monsanto, Syngenta, Dupont, Dow, etc.  have their way.

Look for Monsanto-free meat like:  http://prmeatco.com/our-meats/products/

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 21:37 | 6714922 SilverDOG
SilverDOG's picture

johnconnor

 

 

Moderation across the board.

Or just unAmerican.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 23:18 | 6715252 cornflakesdisease
cornflakesdisease's picture

Yes, the WHO is a bastion of truth and illumination:

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220194/World-Health-Organisatio...

Tue, 10/27/2015 - 08:27 | 6715979 DavidC
DavidC's picture

Forgive my language but it makes feel as if it's been reported 'Having a wank causes cancer'.

Thanks, it's pleasurable, I'll carry on thank you very much.

DavidC

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:23 | 6714368 SILVERGEDDON
SILVERGEDDON's picture

The meat is not the problem, it is the factory manufactured dog shit masquerading as meat that is a problem.

Roundup ready sprayed forage, GMO corn also Roundup Ready for finishing on feed lots that are nothing but crowded shit mud pens, lots of antibiotics to prevent spread of disease in crowded conditions, growth hormones to jack up body weight for slaughter, and so on and so forth.

Local, organic, grass fed, slow raised beef is what your parents were raised on. What masquerades as beef today is a chemical stew of dog shit on legs that still goes moo - the only common denominator between real beef, and beef in a store.

Humans are like computers - put garbage in, you get garbage out.

Meat is not a problem - Corporate America Products are a problem.

Buy local, and buy quality - your life depends upon it.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:52 | 6714496 juangrande
juangrande's picture

It is also common practice ( has been for 25 yrs) to spray roundup on the wheat crop a few days before harvest. This has the effect of killing the wheat and thus making it less hydrated and easier on machinery.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:54 | 6714512 californiagirl
californiagirl's picture

They forgot to mention the human DNA found in hotdogs.

Clear Food, a company that genetically tests food products, looked at 345 hot dog samples from 75 brands, including meat-based and meat-free franks. Of those 345 hot dogs, 14.4 percent had some sort of issue, be it a labeling inaccuracy or hygiene problem.  Some dogs were labeled pork-free — important for certain religions — but were found to contain pork after all. Others listed only one type of meat but included several or didn’t contain all the ingredients listed. Even grosser: 2 percent of all samples were found to have traces of human DNA in them. Veggie dogs were the worst off, accounting for 67 percent of the hygiene issues and two-thirds of the human DNA found.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:54 | 6714507 Seer
Seer's picture

Here's a GREAT analysis/rebuttal:

http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2015/10/world-health-organisation-meat-cancer/

PASS IT AROUND!

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:08 | 6713977 Raymond_K._Hessel
Raymond_K._Hessel's picture

They're saying some really fucked up shit about bacon, too.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:11 | 6713989 DetectiveStern
DetectiveStern's picture

What's the cure?

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:15 | 6714008 Raymond_K._Hessel
Raymond_K._Hessel's picture

well-played

the cure is death, I suppose.

http://time.com/4086914/bacon-cancer-nitrate-1980/

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:22 | 6714052 The Pope
The Pope's picture

& taxes... Sounds like a new government plan to me... Health taxes on steak

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:23 | 6714634 knukles
knukles's picture

You can pry my crisp bacon from my cold dead hands, motherfuckers

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:14 | 6714331 SILVERGEDDON
SILVERGEDDON's picture

DetectiveStern.

in my opinion, the best cure for bacon is a salt rub, cold cured for about 10 days, followed by apple wood smoking, and slicing it up for the fry pan.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:57 | 6714530 Citxmech
Citxmech's picture

Growing your own is a good start.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:12 | 6713995 orangegeek
orangegeek's picture

Red meat is a significant source of protein.  The more rare, the better.

 

Red meat has fuck all to do with cancer.  WHO are lying to serve an agenda.

 

But if you think red meat causes cancer, take Vitamin C and live well.

 

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v06n23.shtml

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:20 | 6714042 MillionDollarAnus
MillionDollarAnus's picture

Red meat is carcinogenic, like cigarettes. Furthermore animal agriculture, specifically raising cattle, is more damaging than the entire transportation sector. We've known this for almost 10 years now. Have fun living with your head in a sandbox. 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:24 | 6714063 bcking
bcking's picture

Pure bullshit from the hand-wringing leftists. It's the fucking government recommendations that are causing obesity and cancer, not the other way around. Eat meat, vegetables and occassional fruits and you'll get ripped, healthy and flip the bird to everyone else. Fuck the World Health Organization.

Oh, by the way, the lipid hypothesis is another bullshit agenda and completely wrong.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:32 | 6714101 DetectiveStern
DetectiveStern's picture

If anything in meat is causing cancer then it's probably down to the drugs that get pumped into the animals all whilst eating monsanto grown feed.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:44 | 6714179 Mr. Schmilkies
Mr. Schmilkies's picture

Yes, or the way the meat is cooked.  Charred is a no-no. 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:28 | 6714383 TBT or not TBT
TBT or not TBT's picture

Never eat beaten meat, either. 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:50 | 6714491 Overfed
Overfed's picture

The only good thing about Chicago is a steak cooked Chicago-style. Charred is delish.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:49 | 6714211 Debt-Is-Not-Money
Debt-Is-Not-Money's picture

And Chikin is pumped with growth hormones and antibiotics.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:50 | 6714212 Implied Violins
Implied Violins's picture

It's also the GMO frankenfoods that the animals are fed, and all the roundup (glyphosate) they spray on all the stuff they graze on. You have to watch this with supposed organically raised animals too, because some of them eat GMO corn.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:40 | 6714151 Cosmicserpent
Cosmicserpent's picture

Hope your cancer gives you a heart attack! ROFL!

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:30 | 6714095 salvadordaly
salvadordaly's picture

"animal agriculture, specifically raising cattle, is more damaging than the entire transportation sector"

I think you forgot the sarc tag, I think?

Scare everybody away from beef, good, more for me at lower prices, I love it!

Nice ribeye steak covered in a caramelized onion and blue cheese cream sauce, damn I'm getting hungry!

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 23:38 | 6715314 MillionDollarAnus
MillionDollarAnus's picture

That's not sarcasm you ignorant plebe. 

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?newsID=20772

 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:38 | 6714139 gladih8r
gladih8r's picture

You forgot to add that "Red meat is also as addictive as Heroin".  Everything is as addictive as heroin these days - soft-drinks, video games, candy, tanning booths, scratching one's ass, everything.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:59 | 6714265 willwork4food
willwork4food's picture

I love to scratch my ass.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:25 | 6714643 knukles
knukles's picture

Everybody wants to scratch your ass... addictive as herion they say...  er wait ....

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:43 | 6714172 ThirdWorldDude
ThirdWorldDude's picture

A small brain excercise to help MDAnus put that into perspective: cattle was domesticated around 10 000 years ago and humans have been eating red meat at least another 10 000 years before that. 

Based on your claims, what are the chances that:

1. The human kind would already be extinct if that hogwash about red meat causing cancer was true?

2. The Earth would've probably looked like Mars if there was some truth in that idiocy about cattle causing "CGW"? (consider that on a global scale their number is steadily decreasing)

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:28 | 6714650 grunk
grunk's picture

For the last 10,000 years, people who have eaten cattle have died.

So there.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:23 | 6714053 ronron
ronron's picture

i eat blue steak. past it's date.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:24 | 6714061 emersonreturn
emersonreturn's picture

orangegeek, abram hoffer was a national treasure.  he presented a paper on curcumin near the end of his life which you may find interesting.  also, along with the C, he always recommended Bs & essential oils.

re: meat, we're fortunate to have an amazing local butchershop that knows all the local farms it deals with:organic, no gmos, drugs, grass fed; worth every extra cent...as well they produce organic no additives sausages & naturally cured bacon.  the butchers & owners are in their 20s, practice a palo diet, started on a shoe string & are completely leaving all the other old established shops & supermarkets out to dry.  people can taste the difference. the lines are worth the wait.  steak, chops or chicken tit there are huge & easily make 2 meals for 2. 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:26 | 6714068 bcking
bcking's picture

Bravo, sir. I concur wholeheartedly.

Fuck those douchebags at the w.h.o.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:13 | 6713999 Mr. Schmilkies
Mr. Schmilkies's picture

I just eat bugs.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:20 | 6714039 JustTheTTIP
JustTheTTIP's picture

Did the WHO minister send you to prepare and subvert public opinion? 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:20 | 6714044 Motorhead
Motorhead's picture

I might need your help at the house...not this weekend, but the next weekend, you available?

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:13 | 6714002 ronin12
ronin12's picture

CAFO meat raised in horrible conditions, and pumped full of hormones and antibiotics and fed GMO grain?

 

Or grass fed meat, let out to graze, treated well and not fed any of the garbage?

 

BIG difference.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:14 | 6714006 brewing
brewing's picture

SO!

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:15 | 6714009 Gatos Locos
Gatos Locos's picture

In California there are workplace signs that SAND causes cancer.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:18 | 6714026 Motorhead
Motorhead's picture

How much do you have to eat per day before cancer kicks in?

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:23 | 6714058 The Pope
The Pope's picture

I've heard that STARVATION causes cancer.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:26 | 6714067 xrxs
xrxs's picture

It's inhalation of silica that does it.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:01 | 6714273 willwork4food
willwork4food's picture

That is exactly right. Cement/sand products, including Durock board, Gypsom all contain silica. I love to smell that too-smells like victory!

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:53 | 6714233 Implied Violins
Implied Violins's picture

There they go, trying to divert blame from Fukushima again...

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:57 | 6714528 juangrande
juangrande's picture

If it is sand from a SOCAL beach, i could see that.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:21 | 6714012 JustObserving
JustObserving's picture
Red meat triggers toxic immune reaction which causes cancer, scientists find


Scientists at the University of California discovered that the human body views red meat as a foreign invader and launches an immune response

Researchers have always been puzzled about how other mammals could eat a diet high in red meat without any adverse health consequences.

Now they have discovered that pork, beef and lamb contains a sugar which is naturally produced by other carnivores but not humans.

It means that when humans eat red meat, the body triggers an immune response to the foreign sugar, producing antibodies which spark inflammation, and eventually cancer.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11316316/Red-meat-triggers-t...

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:22 | 6714049 GernB
GernB's picture

Grains can cause auto immune disases. I don't have time to hunt down the dozens of studies on the subject.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3705319/

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:25 | 6714064 Raymond_K._Hessel
Raymond_K._Hessel's picture

apparently, virtually everything can cause an auto-immune response.

But how much is because of the new-in-evolutionary-terms wheat and how much is because of the excess processed foods/sugar these people are also eating, alone with, perhaps, higher than usual cortisol levels?

I dunno - but neither, apparently, do the people doing these studies.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:23 | 6714054 Raymond_K._Hessel
Raymond_K._Hessel's picture

'It means that when humans eat red meat, the body triggers an immune response to the foreign sugar, producing antibodies which spark inflammation, and eventually cancer. '

That sounds an awful lot like speculation based on heavily confounded correlation - not evidence of a link.

Broadly speaking, it seems clear that humans evolved as meat eaters. The notion that animal meat triggers an immune response that - somehow - eventually causes cancer cells to arise - seems less likely than, say, milk, or **processed sugars** doing the same.

I submit that it is the combination of excess sugar and stress hormones [epinephrine, cortisol mainly].

not my idea though

http://brainconnection.brainhq.com/2003/03/12/why-zebras-dont-get-ulcers/

Sapolsky has some free lectures on itunes. Brilliant guy, fantastic prof, worth checking out.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:27 | 6714645 City_Of_Champyinz
City_Of_Champyinz's picture

Humans, and our very large brains, definitely evolved to consume meat.  In fact, there was nothing in the diet back then that packed enough calories to support the energy needs of the growing brain other than meat. 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:37 | 6714138 emersonreturn
emersonreturn's picture

justO, interesting study.  as always you provide a great deal to think about, thank you. yet, it seems everything now is in turmoil, if one decides to go vegan, it is extremely difficult to find organic wheat, soybeans, corn, peanuts free of gmos, certainly some beans, seeds & nuts seem to be easier to come across but i know quite a few overweight vegans.  while i don't eat wheat we are fortunate to have a french bakery that only uses old seed grain.  they've contracted prairie farmers that grow their old grain seeds exclusively & without question their bread is in a class all its own. 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:02 | 6714550 juangrande
juangrande's picture

One problem with Corp/Ag wheat is the use of roundup a few days before harvest to kill the wheat. This dehydrates the wheat, somewhat, to ease the wear and cleaning of machinery. This has been common practice for 25 yrs.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:16 | 6714014 GernB
GernB's picture

So I see that the World Health Organization receives most of it's funding from politicians and the 1%. No chance for bias there.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:25 | 6714059 The Pope
The Pope's picture

that's the BINGO comment right there (except for the part that 'politicians' have no money, they get it from somebody, but we get the drift)

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:17 | 6714018 Motorhead
Motorhead's picture

I smell another tax on the way..."for our good".

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:17 | 6714019 ExploitedCitizen
ExploitedCitizen's picture

Grass fed beef is amazingly healthy, no way it causes cancer.

Grain fed, antibiotic, hormone injected beef is deadly, definitely a carcinogen.

I have the most sensitive stomach to poison, and grain fed beef makes me sick, grass fed does not!

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:16 | 6714607 ronin12
ronin12's picture

I agree with you, but in modern times, the average joe does probably eat much more meat than he should.

Back in the day, before refrigeration, factory farming, etc; ie for the vast majortity of human evolution, meat was much harder to come by and was therefore a much smaller part of the diet. 

As with everything, the dose makes the posion.

 

 

 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 21:12 | 6714819 TBT or not TBT
TBT or not TBT's picture

Nonsense.  Paleo humans hunted all year around and ate their fill not just of meat bu the rest of the animal too.  They preserved meat by various means including simply storing it under water, but moslty they had fresh game all the time. 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:18 | 6714021 JustTheTTIP
JustTheTTIP's picture

Looks like they are about to introduce Insect based foods for the masses.

 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:31 | 6714099 MsCreant
MsCreant's picture

People. Solient Green is people.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:24 | 6714022 Soul Glow
Soul Glow's picture

Steak doesn't cause cancer.  What causes cancer is poor gut health, and if someone eats too much meat it can unbalance the guts ph, which leads to cancer.

So too much steak does.  But so does too much coffee, too much beer, too much of almost anything.  Even too much jun - the hippie soda - will cause cancer.

Nutrition is about balance.  Eat some meat, drink some coffee, drink some booze.  Just don't over do it and cancer will be kept at bay.

Unless you live near Fukushima.  Then you're fucked.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:23 | 6714261 Debt-Is-Not-Money
Debt-Is-Not-Money's picture

"Processed Meats Cause Cancer"

I'll start listening to the medical "profession" when they acknowledge the long-term cancer causing effects of SV-40 contaminated polio vaccines they gave us back in the 1950's and '60's. Since the effects are sexually transmitted we are all affected.

SV-40 is a "Human Carcinogen":
http://www.sv40foundation.org/CPV-link.html

Also, from the book "Dr. Mary's Monkey" by Edward T. Haslam [highly recommended] (who's father worked in the Tulane university primate lab) after a presentation by the New Orleans coroner's son in school "well, the good news is that if there's a bizarre global epidemic involving cancer and monkey virus thirty years from now, at least we'll know where it came from." pp48 (this was back in 1969).

How many medical "studies" have been issued over the last 40 years only to be reversed at a much later date? Many of these had to do with unethical business practices such as the trashing of artificial sweetener cyclamate back in the late seventies as a carcinogen to create a "market" for much worse aspartame (thanks Donald Rumsfeld).

The biggest hazard we face are the doctors themselves, especially the vaccine pushers.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:18 | 6714029 Martian Moon
Martian Moon's picture

 GMO fed antibiotic and growth hormoned jacked prison beef

yeah it s toxic

grass fed free range beef, good for you, you re built to digest it

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:01 | 6714277 Debt-Is-Not-Money
Debt-Is-Not-Money's picture

Cattle are ruminants - they are not "designed" to eat grains!

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:35 | 6714670 TBT or not TBT
TBT or not TBT's picture

Ruminants eat grass.  Grass has seeds.  Wheat and corn seeds are also called "grains"   humans otoh are not designed to eat grass or grass seeds.  It fucks up our digestion.  

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:19 | 6714033 Motorhead
Motorhead's picture

If anything worries me it is respiratory failure.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:23 | 6714057 One Day Only
One Day Only's picture

Me? Clowns.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:33 | 6714110 MsCreant
MsCreant's picture

Eating clowns causes cancer? Hmmm...

Do they, taste like chicken? Or red meat?

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:41 | 6714157 Cosmicserpent
Cosmicserpent's picture

Women clowns taste like tuna.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:34 | 6714114 Brooks_Orpington
Brooks_Orpington's picture

Me?  Incredibly large, salivating dogs buying stocks at ETrade.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:20 | 6714037 stant
stant's picture

Fuck them ,theres a agenda here somewhere. Always is in this scammed out bs world

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:26 | 6714072 Raymond_K._Hessel
Raymond_K._Hessel's picture

When did peanut allergies become such a widespread deadly thing?

I don't remember hearing much about it at all as a kid - now peanuts are deadly to a considerable chunk of the gen. pop.?

what the what?

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:33 | 6714108 Martian Moon
Martian Moon's picture

peanuts are legumes

not nuts

shelled nuts need no pesticide really

peanuts get the shizzle pesticide sprayed out of them

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:02 | 6714282 Debt-Is-Not-Money
Debt-Is-Not-Money's picture

Vaccines???

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:29 | 6714086 Goatboy
Goatboy's picture

Does this have anything to do with the fact that beef production, of all human activities, is second worst source of greenhouse gasses? I am serious, its literally right behind personal transport emissions.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:36 | 6714126 MsCreant
MsCreant's picture

I heard it had surpased transport emissions recently. Of course it was a fuel industry sponsored flick I was watching that said as much-- Pumped.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 21:18 | 6714844 TBT or not TBT
TBT or not TBT's picture

But AGW is the biggest scam going, so to worry about the warming effect of cattle meat is stupid squared.   Hard to get any more agrnda 21 than to buy into the necessity to tamp.down on meat production with AGW as a reason code.  

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:31 | 6714087 Latitude25
Latitude25's picture

The lowest prostate cancer worldwide is in Japan where red meat is not eaten.  Japanese men who immigrate to the US rapidly approach prostate cancer rates of Americans.  

Humans are primates.  Primates do not consume meats unless you include insects as meat.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:34 | 6714115 yomutti
yomutti's picture

Yeah, but the Japanese get stomach, throat and liver cancer more than we do.

Japanese and Koreans are also absolute magnets for diabetes.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:56 | 6714240 NubianSundance
NubianSundance's picture

Wrong.
Japan diabetes rate less than half that of US.
As for cancers, the US is sixth in the world by frequency, Japan 48th.

Sources, WHO, World Cancer Research Fund.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:45 | 6714472 SmedleyButlersGhost
SmedleyButlersGhost's picture

Yep - real land rush to fuckashima

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:18 | 6714609 juangrande
juangrande's picture

The longest living societies all eat fermented food regularly. That speaks to keeping the digestive microbes balanced and plentiful. The Japanese do like their ciggy's and alcohol. There is something to say about living in close quarters, under stress and only karioke as an outlet ( but I generalize).

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:41 | 6714696 TBT or not TBT
TBT or not TBT's picture

Fermentation inside or outside or guts can produce vitamin k2 in.various forms, whuch prevents calcification of circulatory system components(soft tissues) and promotes calcium deposit in bones.   The MK4 form is prescibed in japan for osteoporosis prevention.   The mk7 form found in natto is asoicated with lower heart, stroke, and curculatory disease deaths.   You can buy bith cheaply from vitacost.   Suggest taking suplementsl magnesium citrate with it thoigh as some people get heart palpitatiions with the mk7.  

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:06 | 6714279 Martian Moon
Martian Moon's picture

Chimps are omnivores

Our closest species

 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:57 | 6714529 Bazza McKenzie
Bazza McKenzie's picture

The Japanese race is dying off -- but hey, their diet is great!

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:33 | 6714107 yomutti
yomutti's picture

What do I care what a bunch of third world pinkos think about steak? Those people can't be trusted to find their ass with both hands, much less to interpret inconsistent, noisy data sets in a way that distinguishes causation from correlation.

 

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:35 | 6714120 GubbermintWorker
GubbermintWorker's picture

My family line has a longevity rate into the upper 80's and 90's. Fuck you, I'm taking a chance and eating bacon! One of my favorite food groups!

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 21:05 | 6714782 SmedleyButlersGhost
SmedleyButlersGhost's picture

Did you kill Dutch/ Alfred 2.0 ?

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:35 | 6714125 yogibear
yogibear's picture

The globalist want Americans to start eating the 3rd world menu which includes insects.

Even the MSM (NBC) are being told to push insect eating as a staple.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45048564/ns/travel-travel_tips/t/insects-you-w...

The Zimbabwe economic plan includes consumption of insects.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:37 | 6714137 MsCreant
MsCreant's picture

Insects is best?

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:40 | 6714440 American Sucker
American Sucker's picture

I grew up on clams, oysters, mussels, crabs, crayfish, and shrimp.  Same thing but dunked in brine.

Tue, 10/27/2015 - 06:19 | 6715730 Inevitability
Inevitability's picture

Thus leaving the 1st world menu; kobe beef & caviar etc for themselves. Very clever.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:36 | 6714128 taopraxis
taopraxis's picture

I gave up meat about fifteen years ago. (I still eat dairy.) Since then, I've seen a doctor maybe twice, once for a tetanus shot and once for a checkup. I take no medicines, not even aspirin. I'm in my sixties, ideal weight, low BP, no health issues at all except for a minor knee problem. I recommend the diet but I do not preach it. Everyone is different and everyone needs to design their own diet. Listen to your body...

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:50 | 6714203 Latitude25
Latitude25's picture

Same here.  I gave up red meats about 2 years ago.  I'm in my sixties and feel like 30s.  Good weight and lots of physical activity.  Also plenty of sex drive for my hot S. American wife.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:24 | 6714635 Crocodile
Crocodile's picture

Right.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:00 | 6714538 snr-moment
snr-moment's picture

Odd.  Starting 3.5 months ago I started eating ONLY bacon, eggs, pork chops, fish, and rib eye steaks with blue cheese.  Since then I've lost 35 pounds and my blood pressure and cholesterol have normalized.

 

go figure.

Oh, and enough of those that I feel full.  Always.  (except 9 am)

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:23 | 6714628 Crocodile
Crocodile's picture

You just preached it.  I've smoked for 55 years and eat 2 eggs with bacon or sausage everyday.  We raise pigs, cows, sheep, chickens and grow corn, soybeans and tobacco.  I am 25 pounds overweight and never exercise except the farm work and haven't been to a doctor in 30 years and that was because the tractor had a hydraulic hose disconnect while under pressure when I was working on it and it slashed my middle finger half off and needed a little help to put that back together; I was out of thread and my sons were out fishing; so I didn't have any spare fishing line to fix it up.  Cost me $20 for 14 stitches.  I'm now 75 going on 25.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:38 | 6714682 Shpedly
Shpedly's picture

$20 for 14 stitches?? I'm guessing you had this tractor accident at the age of 5?

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 22:23 | 6715077 taopraxis
taopraxis's picture

I am not one to preach stuff like vegetarianism as a panacea. My aunt just died about a week shy of age 100...ate meat her whole life. Genetics is huge, luck is huge, and overall lifestyle is huge. Philosophy is also key. It is not just about the food. Whatever works for you is the right path...go for it.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:38 | 6714136 roadhazard
roadhazard's picture

Coffee was supposed to be bad for you not long ago until it wasn't. Here's a news flash, SOMETHING is going to kill you eventually so just sit in a dark room and wait for it.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:41 | 6714161 Shed Boy
Shed Boy's picture

Yup...and so was butter. Kill ya dead it would. But hey...all those meds the doctors hand out these days do a body good....right?

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:46 | 6714193 taopraxis
taopraxis's picture

I am vegetarian but wine, cheese, bread, butter, coffee? I consider these staples. Medicines? I consider these poisons...avoid unless you have a serious illness.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:15 | 6714600 Crocodile
Crocodile's picture

Not a true vegan you cow killer; eating cheese and butter. <sarc>

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 22:26 | 6714624 taopraxis
taopraxis's picture

I eat eggs every day for breakfast, too. Eggs were deadly, then not. Sit in the sun without sunscreen, too. So far, so good...

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 20:13 | 6714596 Crocodile
Crocodile's picture

A recent "news" story talked about the "dangers" of supplements and had a medical shill talk about 20K emergency room visits in the US per year; yes per year.  They neglected to tell about the 20K emergency room visits in the US on a daily basis from Pharmaceuticals.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:38 | 6714145 J Mahoney
J Mahoney's picture

Seems illegal and unconstitutional that smokers have to pay a few hundred more per month with Obama Care but drug users dont, bacon eaters dont, sausage eaters dont, red meat eaters dont, alcoholics dont, sugar eaters dont, high fructose corn syrup eaters dont, aspartane eaters dont. Feel discriminated against??

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:41 | 6714156 silent one
silent one's picture

Count Dracula eats nothing but red meat and he has lived for centuries.

What they are actually doing is PREDICTIVE PROGRAMMING to explain the massive increase in cancer caused by vaccines, fracking etc etc.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:45 | 6714184 Joebloinvestor
Joebloinvestor's picture

I guess gout isn't bad enough.

I think "mad cow" (bovine spongiform) did more damage then any beef related cancer will ever do.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:47 | 6714200 silent one
silent one's picture

Somebody had better tell David KuntMoron about eating bacon, ....pssst, .....whats that....... ah right ok then, my bad, he wasn't eating bacon he was *ucking a pig.

Mon, 10/26/2015 - 18:53 | 6714236 The Magus
The Magus's picture

What are you talking about?

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!