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Facebook Caught Secretly Lobbying For Privacy-Destroying "Cyber-Security" Bill
Submitted by (new father) Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
Before I get into this post, I want to thank everyone for all the congratulations and kind well wishes on the recent birth of our first child. Mom and baby are doing great, and we couldn’t be happier. Now let’s get back to the business of liberty.
There’s a privacy destroying bill moving through Congress called the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act, or CISA, and it’s imperative that the American public stop it in its tracks. Here are a few bullet points on the bill from Fight for the Future:
- All privacy policies effectively null and void. Companies can share any private user data with the government, without a warrant, as long as the government says it is being used for a “cybersecurity” purpose.
- In exchange, companies are given blanket immunity from civil and criminal laws, like fraud, money laundering, or illegal wiretapping (if a violation was committed or exposed in the process of sharing data).
- Data is shared with a wide array of government agencies, from the FBI and NSA, to the IRS and local law enforcement. Many of these agencies have been breached within the last year and have outdated security systems, opening up the doors to even more cyber attacks.
- Companies that play along can get otherwise classified intelligence data from the government, including private information about their competitors.
While the Constitution protects Americans from the federal government, private companies don’t care about your 4th Amendment rights, particularly if you waive them in a “terms of service” agreement. CISA would essentially allow the U.S. government to violate the U.S. Constitution by coercing companies to provide them with data on American citizens it would not otherwise be allowed to collect on its own.
Naturally, Washington D.C. is salivating over the prospect of such a bill. As the Hill notes:
But many industry groups, a large bipartisan coalition of lawmakers and the White House believe CISA is a needed first step to help better understand and repel the overseas cyberattacks plaguing both government and the private sector.
Of course, it’s the people who know absolutely nothing about technology, but who are experts in the art of abusing government power and accepting bribes, who are most in favor of CISA.
Meanwhile, many large tech companies have publicly come out against the bill.
In recent weeks, a number of prominent tech companies, such as Apple, reddit, Twitter, Yelp and Wikimedia have all come out against the bill. The Computer & Communications Industry Association (CCIA), an influential trade group representing Facebook, also expressed concernsabout CISA.
But look which one is missing from the list. The company with the most extensive database of all, and one with a history of egregious privacy abuses: Facebook.
Fight for the Future notes:
Mark Zuckerberg once called Facebook users “dumb f*cks” for trusting him with their data. Now he’s trying to take advantage of us. If CISA passes, all your photos, posts, relationships, and likes will have a path to government databases.
Recall:
It didn’t make any sense. This bill is toxic. The public hates it and tons of tech companies are against it, but Congress keeps trying to ram it through. Now that we know that Facebook lobbyists are working behind the scenes to get it passed, it makes more sense why Congress keeps coming back to it.
Facebook’s chief Senate lobbyist, Myriah Jordan, worked as General Counsel for CISA’s sponsor, Senator Richard Burr, right up until taking the job at Facebook. On her lobbying disclosures she lists “cybersecurity” as one of the issues she’s been discussing with senators. These “revolving door” connections give companies more power and influence than ordinary people could ever have, and it’s part of the reason why companies like Facebook think they can get whatever they want out of Washington.
Several offices on the Hill have heard from Facebook that they support CISA. As much as we wish we could reveal our sources, we agreed not to (selective leaking is part of how the lobbying game works, unfortunately). But this information matches with everything we know about Facebook’s love for CISA over the years. They backed the bill loudly before it was unpopular and then stayed silent as other big tech companies came out against it. We’ve asked them to state their position publicly, but they have said nothing. Facebook has backed this from day one, and now they’re the lone tech voice still working to make sure it passes.
Facebook wants CISA because they want immunity from privacy lawsuits, but if companies like Apple, Twitter, and Reddit can do the right thing by their users and oppose CISA, Facebook can too.
Now here’s what Edward Snowden had to say about the entire affair:
Shameful: @Facebook secretly backing Senate's zombie #CISA surveillance bill while publicly pretending to oppose it. https://t.co/du7RK7V1WJ
— Edward Snowden (@Snowden) October 25, 2015
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Facebook is for mindless submissive herds.
Wolves dont lose sleep over the opinion of sheep!
Great. A bill that codifies what the government and large corporations are already doing together anyway. Very useful.
This bill is NOT about giving the government new powers of observation, inspection and intrusion. That's the red herring in this. The bill is really about giving the companies who SUPPLY that data to the government immunity for doing so.
Now, tell me why you think it WON'T pass. It's a done fucking deal. Both sides want it, just like "immigration reform". Sooner or later (probably sooner) they'll have it and that will be that.
Any person that tries to convince me that Social Media is awesome is a person I have zero respect for. Basically they are idiots.
Says a person posting on an Internet forum, which is social media. Comprehension and outrage fails.
Enjoy your Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitterand all the others. It is probably the only "Social" you ever get.
Loved how President Xi bitch-slapped Zuckerberg over the "name my baby" thing.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3259637/Unfriended-Mark-Zuckerbe...
everything they do and say is a lie of some sort, the sooner we recognise this the better off we will be.
He's a tribe member. Does anyone expect different behavior from him?
The only reason they want us to roll over is so they can rub our belly.
Facebook Wine Moms disapprove of your lack of participation in their high school level bullshit.
For such a "genius", Zuckerberg doesn't realize that Fuckbook can implode just as quickly as it was built, and at the rate they're going, it likely it will.
All it takes is a smarter kid to build a cooler system with respect for privacy and FB will experience the most spectacular demise in corporate history as the worst possible scenario materializes: it becomes "uncool".
Easy come, easy go "dumbfuck".
The Zuck has insinuated his company into the Big Info. Complex thereby garnering governmental backing. He can simply
lobby for regulations to keep down the next wunderkind; or better yet, buy them out and assimilate borg style. I could be
wrong, but I figure he will be with us for many moons. The cho zen don't go down readily, when the hive has their back.
I thought it was to have easier access to tear our hearts our, ala Mola Ram.
SSssshhhh! You're gonna spoil the surprise!
You've got that backwards. ZH commenters are some of the most anti-social folks you'll ever virtually meet.
It's a joke, people, a joke! Don't forget to tweet it to your friends.
There's nothing wrong with being anti-social. Hyper-social people are just out looking for a leader.
i like the wiki definition of social:
In the absence of agreement about its meaning, the term "social" is used in many different senses and regarded as a fuzzy concept
FAIL.
News outlets such as ZH are not Social. Just Media.
Social M is when the people are making "their" news, by posting self crap on the net and waiting for others to give a damn about. Commenting on a news is NOT MEDIA, just feedback.
Too funny, you have no idea what the definition of 'social media' even means.
Newsflash, I do not know a single person on these boards, & I want nothing to do with any of them outside the comment board. How can you consider this site to be 'social media' website??
True conversation we had last night with the mother of one of my daughter's friends:
Mother: How do you keep (xxxxxxx) off of Instagram?
Our answer; We told her no when she asked if she could sign up.
There are so many repercussions that this always live, 24 hour look at me put my life in public way of living that we don't even know about yet, why the hell would I allow my kid to screw themself before they even start life as an adult?
I hear the stories about kids killing themselves over "cyber bullying" and have to ask, are there any adults who are raising these kids?
Can't wait for the crash, when actual tangible relationships might again form.
Till then, fuck all y'all who think that sharing your lives 24/7 and then bitching how they use their data (when you post, you give it to THEM) will garner some sympathy.
pods
@ Pods:
Logged-in, just so I could upvote you.
"Social Media"?
Here's an artist who has a comment on that, look at #2:
http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/pawel-kuczynski-illustrations
It's the freakin' truth, too. The people who live a steady diet of selfies, and posting pictures of what they ate for lunch, are pathetic. Self-imposed prisoners, who would do anything to gain social acceptance from others.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wired-success/201306/do-facebook-an...
While I don't have much faith in pseudo-sciences like Psychology, it doesn't change the fact that the article is right about the deleterious effects of this shit.
Just more reason to cheer for the collapse.
Americans flat out deserve this. For not paying attention to what is really happening to their country and Government. And certainly for not understanding the value of the principles that their country was founded upon. They may now be forced to re-learn why those principles were fought for in the first place.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Ben Franklin
Time and time again, Congress and the corporate oligarchy continue to pass bills in direct violation of our 4th and 5th amendment rights, i.e. freedom from unlawful search and seizure and due process.
Do we all have to become constitutional lawyers to protect the Bill of Rights or do we start stretchinhg necks? Either way I'm fine.
In exchange, companies are given blanket immunity from civil and criminal laws, like fraud, money laundering, or illegal wiretapping (if a violation was committed or exposed in the process of sharing data).
had to read it twice......... its just disgusting
Those guys are already so fucking of the system.
Did you know that when the state arrests a CEO for fraud and says: we hold you here because you commited fraud for 100 million
HE GETS TO GO FREE IF IT'S 101 MILLION BECAUSE THE COPS WHERE WRONG???
In America, they call that procedures. Fair trial and crap like that.
Now you try to steal a 60 cent coke 3 times in a row and see what will happen then.
You pulled a gold-plated rabbit out there, Pladizow -- Bravo sir...!!
Self adoration... narcissists... Losers.
Says someone who is posting on social media, which makes you a self-adoring narcissistic loser too!
Hey, I'm a self-adoring narcissistic loser too. Where's my dressing down? Waaaa!
Are you Mark fucking Zuckerberg???
and Sucker-burglar laughing all the way to the bank...
I deleted my account a while back - forever. Take back your online life from these big government leeches who want to make you conform to their template. Why should we?
You didn't delete squat, as every bit of info ever entered is still stored by them. You just hid it from yourself and other amatuer stalkers.
Not to mention that facebook makes accounts for every person they encounter in other peoples accounts, whether you want it or not. They can even identify you by your appearance within pictures. They don't even need your face visible any more in order to do it.
Well, I AT LEAST FUCKING TRIED ASSHOLE.
That is true.
I signed up and there was a note:
"Welcome Mr. 8 inch."
pods
HA! Then there's hope yet that I'll remain invisible!
Don't put your real name and picture on facebook if you care about privacy.
Microsoft, Facebook, iPhone, and all the USSA companies are digging their own grave with the move to spyware and getting in bed with the NSA. Reputations last a long time.
When someone offers spook proof phones and software these assholes will be gone in a computer generation upgrade.
I don't think you understand how VC funding works. Nobody can compete with the infinitely funded security state.
If somebody does manage to evade control, they will be thrown under the nearest prison.
I found out it does not matter just if YOU post a pic. ANYONE can post a pic, with you in it, and ID everyone in the pic. I am and forever will be "Faceless", never joining anything like FB. However, my sister posted a pic of friends, which I happened to be in, and ID'd everyone in the pic. I only found out when looking at something on her FB account that she wanted me to see. Even with your own due diligence, you are likely tagged and bagged anyway. Welcome to the digital age, ALL privacy is gone. Just my 2 cents.
Fuck Facebook and Zuckerberg.....
Suck a turd
Missed your period.
Fuckbook, produces nothing but retards, one doesn't have to look very far to see this,
My whole narcissictic family on my brother's side are fuckbook attention whores....disgusting behavior.
Zuckerberg wants total control.
Wall Street will then have unlimited access to the inside of your personal life.
I hope they like cats.
He's the Rod Blagojevich of the NWO.
If you don't know who that is, read a little into him. He's the underworld's equivalent of a village idiot.
Mark Zuckerberg once called Facebook users “dumb f*cks” for trusting him with their data.
Wrong scumbag! I dont trust you and would never join your shit site!
Facebook is a data mining operation but not for the people actually on it. If you don't have a facebook you're the suspicious one.
So you mean I made a fatal error in judgement by deleating?
No, you are part of the 1%'ers. The 1%'ers who actually have a brain.
Facebook is a data mining operation but not for the people actually on it. If you don't have a facebook you're the suspicious one.
I actually maintain a Facebook account for this reason. I check it usally 2 times a year or so. Haven't updated anything for 5 years and only provided info people could find about me in the phone book, but otherwise prospective employers get suspicious...seriously fucked up.
Yep, manage your online presence.
Feint within Feint within Feint....
Plus it is a numbers game...
So that's why I never get hired. When I get asked why I don't have a facebook account I say "only fags use facebook".
If you want to be productive, delete your facebook, twitter and linkedIn accounts. They are just fucking noise.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with you there. How else will the rest of the world, outside of all my 'friends' os course, know about my life and all the important shit i do and say? Besides, FB, twitter, etc keep telling me how important they are for me!
/s
Zuckerberg = Zionist Faggot (and i aint slurring gays)
People the FaceFuck = road kill
FUCK ALL GOVERNMENT COLLABORATORS....
Facebook and Google was government corporations from day one..... Suckers
Facebook users do not want privacy. Quite the reverse, they're seeking attention...everyone gets what they want and, collectively, what they deserve in life and markets.
The five stages of leaving Facebook:
#5 -- 'Denail'.
You got that right: De-Nail... As in, De nail in yer coffin...
so... if they give your personal info... to the government who already has everything about you...
then... they can commit fraud....
so...
if a guy would take pictures from your kids while they're under the shower...
and he would give them to the police...
he could get immunity for raping them....
YEP!! ONLY IN AMERICA!!! ALL HEIL THE ELITE WHO DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM FUCKING YOU OVER!!!
WHY DON'T THEY REINSTATE FIRST RIGHT BEFORE MARRIAGE AGAIN??
YOU KNOW, WHERE THE EARL COULD FUCK YOUR WIFE FIRST WHEN YOU MARRY THEM!
IT'S A HONNOR!! AND YOU CAN THANK HIM FOR DOING SO WHILE YOU CLEAN HIS DICK AFTER THE DEED!
Facelook, the greatest collection of free data on the public. All graciously volunteered by mind numbing, ignorant, sheepie...look at me, look at me...
Zuckerfag is a jewboy stooge for tptb
what ass still uses FB, twitter, instagram ?... Crypted mail that's all
So this forum is crytpted mail, then?
LOL... I deleted my Fecebook account in like 2010 and never missed it once. My wife (who paradoxically seems to like Fecebook) has strict instructions to *never* post a picture with me in it on that site, and *never* even mention my name. The accidental billionaire does not give a fuck about anyone but himself, and we can only pray that the ugly Asian houseboy he is married to gets fed up with his shit and double taps him in his sleep one night.
Very good start, sir, well done. But there is a lot more to that onion to be pulled back.
IP addresses, tie you to your wife
plus much more.
Then the whole question of what you manage hints at what you want managed.....
It become very tiresome to figure out what to do....
This thread demonstrates that the average ZH poster is a retired white man. I'm shocked.
White people are bad. So are people who have worked their entire lives. Run!
I only 'identify' as retired.
But your third cousins facebook account contains a pic of a family reunion with you in it.
Posts that use the term ZH or call the people who post here ZHers generally come from outsider trolls.
Man, I was actually getting ready to post in your defense until the comment about "retired white man." I'm a white male and I have yet to been provided with evidence suggesting I'm incapable of knowing what social media is, or how to use it. Perhaps you have links that would support your conclusion? And you've made that comment before on this site. Perhaps you should lay down on your most comfortable couch and tell us where all the pain began. And, by the way, I don't give a shit if this site actually is populated by nothing but retired white men. Are there careeer status / racial status / gender status quotas we should be aware of? Does my opinion matter less becasue I fit any of those descriptors? You know, your life will be more fulfilling if you can engage in discussion using tools other than imagined ad hominem attacks. But it will certainly be more fun for me if you choose to remain in ignorance.
Anyone who knowingly uses or participates in the farce that is facebook is an idiot.
Paul Eberhart doesn't even use facebook
Also of interest here, the CEO of United Healthcare is now on the board of Cargill, the evil twin brother of Monsanto..and read about the new Cigna pharmacy benefit manager for Cigna, United Healthcare, what M and A does for you today.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2015/10/if-you-are-insured-by-cigna-guess-what.html
Zuck is right. Those people who give their private information to a corporation without any good reason are really dumb fucks.
do you REALLY FUCKING BELIEVE APPLE TWITTER AND GOOGLE ARE AGAINST CISA?
WHO'SE THE DUMB FUCK NOW?
THEY ARE ALL LYING ABOUT BEING AGAINST CISA.
they are ALL THE SAME COMPANY AND MICROSOFT IS THEIR DICK PUSSY KING.
I acquired my original capital when I worked designing computer systems and writing code...quit that field in 1994. My systems experience is one of the reasons I do not worry about computer surveillance. First, government is light years behind the private sector in technical sophistication. Second, the government is incompetent to manage the information that they have. Most of what the government knows is either old news, wrong, misfiled, lost, inaccessible, uncollated or unverifiable. They're completely overwhelmed. The essence of fascist control is fear and intimidation.Their power exists only because people fear them...end of story. (The real danger from computers is much more insidious and that is a function of the way people use them...story for some other time.)
"Big Brother is watching." George Orwell
..story for some other time
Why?
I am interested.
Can you please elaborate.
Texting and driving is one trivial example...the risks people run just from that dwarf any realistic government scenario. Fear of today's government is inane. On a list of life risks, it ranks zero. That said, people are right to call out the abuses of power for the same reason they're right to enforce other laws protecting life and property.
If you're on Facebook YOU are personally part of the problem. Same goes for Twitter.
Wasn't Facebook started by a grant from In Q Tel? What a shock that it's a government front. There's no way a company with no assets is worth $22 billion, even in upside down world. But like Google, fascist companies will profit while good people go without work.
Yes but the ability to control the masses to do anything you want is worth 22 bil in an asset itself.
Yes but the ability to control the masses to do anything you want is worth 22 bil in an asset itself.
I availed myself of the opportunity to join FACEBOOK when LeadNow was attempting to get Steven Harper out of power in CANADA with an Online Petition. I signed up to sign my name to the petition, and then I disabled my account by changing it to some weird derivative of the Chinese language. Once I hit return after I sabotaged the account I could not read whatever FACEBOOK sent to me via e-mail because it was all in Chinese.
Eventually, I wanted to access other FACEBOOK sites that were engaged in other political discourse, but I could not access because I destroyed my account by making it unreadable. After discovering my conundrum with an inaccessible FACEBOOK account I tried to find a real live person at FACEBOOK so I could undo the self-inflicted sabotage of my FACEBOOK account. In brief, I spent about 8 hours looking for a real person I could contact at FACEBOOK to fix the problem, but was unable to find one single email contact at FACEBOOK after an extensive search.
FUCK FACEBOOK, Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg's parents, Zuckerberg's teachers, Zuckerberg's friends, Zuckerberg's neighbours, Zuckerberg's professional associations, et cetera.
EAT SHIT & DIE, Zuckerberg, DIE, DIE, DIE, MOTHERFUCKER!
I'm trying to figure out what Zuckerberg and Martin Shkreli have in common.
Can't quite put my finger on it.
facebook disconnect add on for firefox, and also google disconnect:
I don't know how effective they are, but they're worth a try.
Facebook is a CIA creation - what'd everyone expect?
I can honestly say I have never joined up for Facebook in my life. So I am not in denial. 40 years old and people still ask why don't you have a facebook account. The answer is always why do you?
On Fakebook everything is wonderful and great unless you know about their miserable lives personally.
The better the fakebook life, the worse the real life. Reminds me of my HS reuinion. A bunch of people all running around saying "Look at me!"
No thanks.
pods
Schmuck-Turd became a multi-billionaire overnight by giving away something for free. After 10 years I don’t remember one single advertisement on FB, but I can recall just about every TV commercial I’ve ever seen. When Fed Easy Money Ends Tech Bubble 2.0 Pops!
It's the Affordable Care Act all over again.
Facefuck is as facefuck does. Just called Feinswine's office to denounce CISA; she's the one behind this latest effort to spy on everyone, everywhere and all of the time. Her clerk stated that she would be happy to pass along my derision - I highly doubt that Feinswine will hear about nor will she care about my opinion - "if I just..." and that's when I disconnected the call. Social media is narcissistic and banal. Fuckerberg should be tarred and feathered. Seriously, I mean that.
As a former Database Administrator and Data Mining expert CISA is a no-brainer. They will use this bill to go after things like:
-Collect user profiles on every website that is associated with gun owners, gun stores, gun shows, gun brands and gun blogs to name just a few.
-Collect user profiles from right wing terrorists on sites like news sites like ZH and Drudge
-Collect user profiles on state and local website access.
-Collect user profiles on political leanings from Tea Party, NRA, etc…
Then using Domain Named Server info from these sites it would not be hard to get to the individual customer on Comcast, Wow, ect… and collect who you are. Then they have you linked with all communication verbal (cell phone), written (email) and thoughts (blogs and forums) they now all your leanings and attitudes.
All of this is to be stored in a massive site in Utah. The next step is to run data mining across all of the people profiles to collect individual ratings on all citizens (illegal aliens?) in a number of categories. You and I are now pegged on a number of fronts. These include items like:
- Security risk to the country as a right wing terrorist or what ever
-Firearms profile of suspected weapons cash
-Property profile of assets and flight capability
-Organizational risk from membership like NRA, local hunting club, Tea Party,…
The big step they have been building on for years is the Homeland Security (Gestapo) with its millions of rounds of hollow points. These scumbags will be the ones to quietly drag you from your bed at 2:00 AM. based on these new profiles collect from CISA. The next morning you will be placed in a FEMA detention center with all of your immediate family.
The last step is to use the wonderful CIA tools on your body and elimination of any threat you may possess. They won’t wait long for the answers. Once you confess under duress the presidential EO of you being a threat to the US is clear. You will be eliminated and your possessions confiscated. Or they will confiscate and release you if they deem you a mild threat. This purge will be just like those of Stalin, Mao, or Hitler used to hollow out the opposition.
Zuckerberg is part of a tribe that is hostile to our traditional rights as Americans. And not just our rights, but the very foundation stock that CREATED those rights and this great country.
Posting xenophobic views online in Germany could cost you your job & child 28 Sep, 2015
STASI-veteran will Assist German Government in Facebook Censorship
Tribal member and former Stasi agent Anetta Kahane in Germany saying MASS IMMIGRATION of non-whites into Germany is a MUST:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuYKtwnzG7M
Stasi Roots of the German-Jewish “Anti-Racist” Left and Its Program of Destroying Ethnic Germany
Facebook free and open source alternatives:
https://www.minds.com/ (supports encrypted messaging)
https://www.diasporafoundation.org/ (decentralized node/pod based communication)
And don't forget about free and open source encrypted email service: https://www.ProtonMail.com/ (or https://www.ProtonMail.ch/ ) with their servers based in Switzerland.
I closed my facebook accounts last year, haven't logged in since. They can steal someone else's data.
I love it when people on zh(social media) slag on social media.