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Pentagon: Ready To Launch 'Boots On The Ground' In Syria And Iraq
Update: While it's not entirely clear whether this represents an explicit pivot or simply amounts to a reiteration of comments US defense officials made in the wake of the ISIS prison raid that freed some 70 captives in Iraq and led to the first US casualty in ground combat since 2011, the media is alive with reports this evening which indicate that Defense Secretary Ash Carter may be set to send more spec ops ground troops to Iraq and "engage directly" in Syria. Here's CNN with the official White House-approved line:
The U.S. is considering increasing its attacks on ISIS through more ground action and airstrikes, Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said Tuesday.
Carter told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the U.S. "won't hold back" from supporting partners carrying out such attacks or from "conducting such missions directly, whether by strikes from the air or direct action on the ground."
The White House, however, has yet to make a decision on the options for upping the campaign against ISIS, according to defense and administration sources. They said that further involvement on the ground was one of the possibilities being presented.
The ground option Carter mentioned to the committee was part of a three-prong effort -- which he dubbed the "three Rs" -- to adapt the U.S. policy on countering ISIS.
Meanwhile, a few notable US lawmakers had some colorful remarks for Carter. First there was uber hawk John McCain insisiting that the Russians and the Assad regime are "slaughtering" the moderates:
Committee Chairman John McCain of Arizona peppered Carter with questions about how the U.S. would protect forces as Russia carries out airstrikes that have been hitting forces opposed to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
"Are we going to protect them from being barrel bombed by Bashar Assad and protected from Russia?" McCain asked.
"We have an obligation to do that. We made that clear right from the beginning of the train-and-equip program," Carter said.
"We haven't done it. We haven't done it," McCain disagreed.
Carter said to date, no forces that have been part of the U.S. training program have come under attack from Russian forces, but McCain once again disagreed.
"I promise you they have," McCain said. "You will have to correct the record. ... These are American-supported and coalition-supported men who are going in and being slaughtered."
And here's Lindsey Graham's assessment:
"This is a half-assed strategy at best."
On that point will not protest.
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Earlier
In addition to increased ground action and airstrikes, or "raids," Carter also spoke of the need to increase pressure around the ISIS stronghold of Raqqa in Syria, where "we will support moderate Syrian forces" fighting the terror organization there.
When analyzing geopolitics it’s important to try and skate ahead of the puck, so to speak. That is, while it’s useful to understand what’s going on now, it’s even more imperative to analyze the situation in an attempt to understand how the situation is likely to evolve going forward.
As it relates to the Mid-East, that means looking past Syria and on to Iraq. As we’ve outlined in great detail of late, there’s every reason to suspect that Russia will expand its airstrikes across the Syrian border and indeed, Baghdad has reportedly given Moscow the go-ahead to hit ISIS convoys fleeing Syria into Iraqi territory. This is in direct contradiction to what PM Haider al-Abadi told Gen. Joseph Dunford last week and suggests that Baghdad is about to pivot East, after becoming frustrated with a lack of results stemming from more than a year of US airstrikes against Islamic State targets.
It’s critical to note that Iran (via the IRGC and, more specifically, the Quds Force) controls Iraqi politics and the Iraqi armed forces. This means that Russia will find an extremely receptive environment when it comes to expanding the air campaign beyond Syria. We won’t get into the details here, but we do encourage you to review the whole story as detailed in “Russia Takes Over The Mid-East: Moscow Gets Green Light For Strikes In Iraq, Sets Up Alliance With Jordan” and “Who Really Controls Iraq? Inside Iran's Powerful Proxy Armies.”
Over the weekend we brought you helmet cam footage which purported to depict a US/Peshmerga raid on an ISIS prison. The operation allegedly freed some 70 hostages whose graves Islamic State had (literally) already dug. For those who missed it, here’s the video:
And here was our assessment:
Now obviously, there’s no telling what actually went on here, nor is there any telling what 30 members of Delta Force were doing running around with the Peshmerga in northern Iraq, but one thing is for sure: the US media seems to be trying to counter the Russian propaganda blitz by holding up the Huwija raid and the death of Master Sgt. Joshua L. Wheeler as proof that Washington is serious about battling ISIS. We are of course not attempting to trivialize the death of Joshua Wheeler by writing this off as some kind of publicity stunt aimed at countering the Russian media blitz. In fact, the opposite is true. If the US is now set to ramp up the frequency with which the Pentagon puts American lives at stake by inserting spec ops in ground operations just so Washington can prove to the world that America is just as serious as Russia is about fighting ISIS, well then that's a crying shame for US servicemen; especially considering the role the US and its regional allies had in creating the groups that Delta Force and other units are now tasked with countering.
Sure enough, others are now beginning to ask questions about the timing of the raid and subsequent release of battlefield footage. Here’s Sputnik, citing China’s CCTV:
Russian-led counterterrorism efforts are so successful that they are "unnerving" Washington, CCTV reported. As a result, last week US leadership decided to act so as to prevent Iraq from fostering ties with Moscow.
The Chinese media outlet believes that the operation to free hostages in Northern Iraq followed this new logic. Last Thursday, US and Kurdish forces managed to free 70 people from a prison located to the west of Kirkuk. The operation saw the United States lose its first soldier in combat since Obama launched the campaign to degrade and ultimately destroy Islamic State.
This mission raised questions over Washington's plans in Iraq. On Friday, US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter tried to dispel fears of the possible mission creep by saying that the US was not "assuming a combat role" and the operation was "a continuation of our advise-and-assist mission."
However, Carter stated that similar missions, which redefine assistance if not blur the line between combat and training, could be conducted in the future.
CCTV believes that the US-led hostage rescue operation was a show of force aimed at Iraq's leadership. The mission was meant to send a clear message to Baghdad, which is rumored to be planning to ask Moscow for greater assistance in its fight against Islamic State.
Of course we need to consider the sources here (i.e. this is Russian media quoting Chinese media) but nevertheless, this is precisely consistent with the assessment we offered immediately after the helmet cam footage was released.
In short, it seems entirely possible that the presence of Delta Force in the ISIS prison raid might well have been premeditated by the Pentagon. The official line is that 30 US commandos where present in an advise and assist role to the Peshmerga and once the Kurds started to take losses, Delta Force decided to intervene.
But is that the real story, or did Washington deliberately send spec ops into a battle the US knew they would win so that The White House could trot the "successful" operation out to Baghdad as evidence of why Iraq shouldn't turn to Moscow for help?
We'll let readers decide that for themselves and simply close with the following bit from Reuters which pretty clearly indicates that suddenly, the US has had a change of heart about putting boots on the ground in Iraq...
The top U.S. military officer said on Tuesday he would consider recommending putting U.S. forces with Iraqi troops to fight Islamic State if that would improve the chances of defeating the militants.
"If it had an operational or strategic impact and we could reinforce success, that would be the basic framework within which I'd make a recommendation for additional forces to be co-located with Iraqi units," Marine General Joseph Dunford told a Senate hearing.
Dunford, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, outlined four reasons it might be useful to put U.S. troops with Iraqi forces: increasing the coherence of the military campaign, ensuring logistics effectiveness, boosting intelligence awareness and improving combined arms delivery.
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"into a bag" I don't know how "back" ended there.
Drinking and writing don't mix?
If I lived on Mars, this would be amusing. The U.S. expends lives and treasure (lots of treasure) liberating Iraq from a despot who, while not friendly to the U.S., wasn't overly cozy with the Ruskies either. The idea was to create a friendly, satellite, adding stability to the ME and the globe's energy supply. Now look at what the U.S. has wrought. Failed states, not just in Iraq, but in Libya as well. Islamic extremism run wild and Russia being seen as a 'protector'. This leads me to dust off one of my favorite memes - One can control one's actions. One cannot control the outcome of those actions. I truly believe the adventurists in the U.S., from the crazy neocons to that deserter of the Winter Soldiers, John Kerry (ref. April 1971), are so in the thrall of power that they cannot and will never learn that simple lesson. We all suffer the consequences.
There have been some interesting photos from The Mars mission recently, try taking a look at the first picture sideways on, seems difficult to call it as rock erosion, water flow etc...
https://apple.news/AleKEMCyhPnWCiVBMBZ1LOw
US soldiers dying fighting US-created Jihad Army.
You can't make this stuff up.
Vichy DC needs hosing down.
When I heard of this operation I thought "why?" and "why now?". Did they ever care before?
The US (and Iraq) military should be executing search and destroy missions within DC, not Iraq.
Hell, DC needs to be carpet bombed and sprayed with Dioxin to ensure no living thing can ever grow again in that cesspool....
http://nypost.com/2015/10/26/obama-just-fell-for-a-classic-russian-ruse/
And a ruse it is. Russia’s goals haven’t changed, only its propaganda.
Spoken like a true Satan worshiping neo-con rag. I would have more expected to see something like that in the Jew York Slimes or Wall Street Jewernal though. The only thing the NY Post is good for is wrapping up dog shit before it gets tossed in the trash. To their credit their cover pages are amusing at times though.
Spoken like a true propagandophile.
The Post? Really?
Take pity, lies published by captured sycophant media outlets are all he has got.
YIPEE....After 14 Fucking Years in Iraq and 14 Fucking Months in Syria, we're Finally Ready!!!! Russia's done in 14 days what we could not.
just read ap article.
iran for first time ever have been invited to a meeting with us, and thier allies on cordination in iraq, and syria to stop civil-war, and unseat basahar.
was that bin-ladin running out the back door in that video?
Anybody remember Obama telling "Puntin" he'll have more flexability when he wins re-election? Anybody...Hello....I guess now we know....
Completely bend around, head up ass flexible?
Completely bend around, head up ass flexible?
I resemble that remark!!
The US has "decided to act". So now they will be "acting". What do you call what they were doing before? Rehearsing?
Yep, can put two boys and a dog in "direct ground action" in two places and be "ready"
jfc
Okay, mano a mano now...
If the Russians don't pull back there will be a war.
This is bad bad bad news.
I don't think Russia wants this and is smart enough to pull out.
If the US plans necessitate war, it doesn't matter what Russia does.
Nothing Russia can do will be able to prevent it.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/27/ignoring-the-absolutely-in...
If there is one future event that is not doubted by anyone, it is that the US of A will leave the middle east. The question is whether our troops will also be under fire, and perhaps whether they will arrive in a nation of starving pensioners.
How many stupid Americans will die for the glory of Barack and ISIS and AL Qaeda? Which god will reward them for their service?
Dear Leader will never attack his hood.
What a joke!!
American boots have been on Syrian soil a long long time. In the name of Al Queda, Nusra, ISISI, Syrian rebels etc.
But if the Russians hadn't begun their air campaign 4 weeks ago, the US wouldn't be considering ground action in Syria and they'd still be attacking vacant lots and bombed out villages pretending they were eliminating ISIS.
Someone with brain in the US Congress: Congresswoman Tells the Truth About Syria on CNN-Tulsi Gabbard - a Democrat from Hawaii and member of the Armed Services Committee - demonstrates great knowledge and courage to go aginast the grain in the US and explain the Syria situation along with Russian and US roles the way it is.
I hope Gabbard owns a bomb sniffing dog.
What I see coming is the US embedding troops with the "opposition" (i.e. ISIS/ISIL) fighters and then covertly telling the Russians and Syrians that the troops are there. Therefore if Russian planes bomb those targets they will be attacking American forces.
This would be right in line with the kind of of duplicitous crap the US has pulled before. The only problem I see with this scenario is how the US justifies putting their troops in the same area as the supposed enemy - I'm sure their ministry of propaganda will figure something out though.
And BTW . . . isn't there some rule that says senile Senators like McCain should not be allowed to talk in public?? My God, that guy is a fucking disgrace to the USA . . . and people in Arizona should be ashamed of themselves for electing, and more importantly re-electing, that idiot to office. It shows everyone in the world how screwed up (and fixed) the whole presidential election process is in the USA if he was one of the two candidates running for that office in 2008!! He was one of two of the best candidates available for president?? Geeze . . . . that makes me want to vomit.
mccain should have stood infront of the firing squad 50 years ago
Thank GAWD we're pissing more money away on another bomber. Will it be as big a turd as the F22 fighter? Like the B1 as soon as it's first flight it will be obsolete.
http://www.defense.gov/News-Article-View/Article/626137/air-force-awards...
We need to drop more freedum bombs NOW!
We need to drop the government and go back to the trees if this is all we've got. Eat the first guy that shows up with a god.
why even bother? These guys are not capable of much. I mean it. I was a loud mouth protestor that pissed off the government so they put me in a gangstalking program meant to drive me to killing myself and I kicked their ass. I came from an abusive and neglected household and the US intelegence agencies created a programe to destroy a fucked up dumbass kid and they got their ass beat...........................HAHAHAHAHA.............JUST STOP USA............JUST STOP...............HAND IT OVER TO CHINA ALREADY
Sounds like they did program you. I'm not ready to be a commie but I hear they have nice new citys for you. Two wrongs dont make a right but three lefts do, maybe you could be one of the lefts.
Russia should have cleared Syria of ISIS by now.
There are no mountains or caves to hide in.
US wants to show up after the fight and share the victory.
Typical fag tactic.
Why Russia will allow it is a good question.
maybe all sides will pivot on israel.
As the nazi party to keep things connivingly jewish. Sale on nazi arm patches and flags from china.
Russia won't allow it.
*too
What about Congress, do they have anything to do with declaring war any more? How come we are getting into these conflicts without explanation? What is the mission? Remember the check-list of all the things we continually fail at? We are at the mercy of a government that looks nothing like the America it is supposed to be representing.
Heck, the U.S. has all sorts of 25 year olds living in the basement of their parents more than willing to head off to Syria to fight ISIS and a Saudi/Qatari gas pipeline.
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The ground option Carter mentioned to the committee was part of a three-prong effort -- which he dubbed the "three Rs" -- to adapt the U.S. policy on countering ISIS
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3 Rs??
The Rainbow brigade is going to Repeatably Rape Rectums?
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And here's Lindsey Graham's assessment:
"This is a half-assed strategy at best."
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We all know that Lindsey Graham is an expert on asses.
He is also a big supporter of the 3 Rs.
"we will support moderate Syrian forces"
What the fuck are "moderate Syrian forces"?
And why keep using the newspeak word "pivot" instead of "turn to"? Last time I looked, they hadn't yet turned into ballerinas.
Latest NYT Big Lie: Russia Responsible for Syrian Refugee “Surge”
TND Guest Contributor: Stephen Lendman
Times reporting shifts from the absurd to the contemptible to the outrageous in virtually every article on geopolitical issues. It’s a Lying Machine - a house organ for administration, Pentagon and corporate interests exclusively, the public be damned.
http://thenewsdoctors.com/?p=527487
"Latest NYT Big Lie: Russia Responsible for Syrian Refugee “Surge” "
Russia has also been blamed for bombing hospitals in Syria:
Fuck special ops, send in B-52s loaded with aging iron bombs.
Nothing will go wrong, like Spetsnaz and a SEAL team mistakenly getting into a gun battle.
Love it when the Russians get one over on the One Worlders and the Neocons.
I wonder if China will finally send in some help in Syria now that the US has done it's business all over their territorial waters at the Spratly's?
Looks like the House of Saud and the US are fast running out of leg room in Syria and Iraq. Good. Maybe the Russians can do better--can't do much worse.
USA places such a low value on troop lives... even Russia has no troops running around.
Why not? For a cool billion dollars the Pentagon can probably put 10 soldiers [20 boots] on the ground...such a deal!
But wait there's moar !!
"advise and assist" is that like when your daddy takes you to the park to learn to ride your new skateboard?
I guess anyone in the future thinking of trusting the US and that they won't be betrayed just has to look back at what happened to these "moderates". Oh sorry boys change of plans and those plans don't include you TIME TO DIE!
remember the Iran Iraq war the US arming both sides into a never ending bloodbath, keeping the region destabilised and depend.
Let's see:
No idea who our allies are: check!
No idea who the enemy is: check!
No idea what we're intending to accomplish: check!
No idea what the exit strategy is: check!
No idea what tactics to use: check!
No one was held accountable for the last two failed wars: check!
Then let's go - boots on the ground! (And oh, do I hate that last overused phrase.)
Shit!! They ran out of ISIS militants.
The interesting thing about half assed strategies is that you invariably end up losing your whole ass.
McCain is an embarassment to both creationists and evolutionists.
If America wants to get involved it risks much more than it stands to gain in a region where its credibility is about as strong as that of a pedophile in a kindergarten.
Russia will NOT fielded its troops there. WHY? Easy.
This is a war between MUSLIMS (Shiah vs. Sunni).
I can understand you don't understand this. Cause you're not live in muslim majority country. I AM. I am a catholic minority living in the world most popoulus muslim nation.
The muslim WILL NOT BE SO MUCH OBJECTED if a muslim killing another muslim. They will grumble. Try to mediate it. But if those muslims nation still fighting? All they say would be, "let their stupid runs its course. We'll intervene when they have their senses back."
HOWEVER..
If a NON-MUSLIM kills a muslim? THIS WOULD ANGERED THEM!! And angered so much that they will quit their jobs and joins militant groups!!
This FACT is the one that the WESTERN COUNTRIES DON'T UNDERSTAND!! (stupid idiot govt).
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I know Putin (and Russian) are SMART. They KNOWS they will be seen as INVADERS (and hence they will be the TARGET for their enemy), IF, Russian sent its massive troops there.
NOPE!! Putin's is TOO SMART to follows YU-ASS path!! He LETS the OTHER MUSLIMS to OBLITERATES THEIR OTHER MUSLIMS ENEMY!! That's the BEST ACTIONS that Putin's DO in this whole mess.
I already listens to my muslims friends are saying. You know what they said to me? AMERIKA IS RUINING THEIR MUSLIMS FRIENDS BY CREATING ISIS!! BUT RUSSIA SEEMS TO GENUINELY CONCERNS ABOUT ISIS, AND REALLY DOING THE RIGHT THING BY BOMBING THEM TRULLY!!
I laugh (silently) upon hearing their comments. WHY?? CAUSE I KNOW FOR SURE, RUSSIA HAS THE UPPER HANDS IN THE MUSLIMS NATIONS!!
While you idiots from YU-ASS & ASS-EU?? You just lost your positions in the muslims eyes!!
Learns from Russia dude. How to handle other country matters, by OBSERVING THEIR CUSTOMS & CULTURES, BEFORE, you come there.
What a stupid crock..
First of all, boots on the ground is what got us into this fucking morass in the first place. It is NOT going to help matters to put more boots on the ground.
Second, the problem with the US, and it has been for quite some time now, is that we're always reacting to what the other guy does. We have no plans of our own. It's always, "Oh fuck, look at what _______ just did. We better do something!". And nvariably what we do is to make the situation at least one order of magnitude worse.
Things have gotten so fucked up in so much of the world thanks to the lack of leadership and true planning on most issues that I, frankly, don't know if there's anything the US can do to unfuck things other than just withdraw. We've pissed off most of what passed for our friends by either spying on them or completely ignoring them for what we declared was their best interest. Some of those that were previously our friends are likely now enemies, but likely behind our back enemies always looking for a way to stick the shiv in a little deeper while shaking our hands. We've emboldened nations that are our titular enemies to be even bolder, based on the fact that they know that we're paper tigers and even if we do decide to strike at them, we strike with both hands tied behind our backs in terms of rules of engagement, or we just go full retard and kill anything that moves, including innocent civilians just out for a wedding or that are in clearly demarked hospitals. We've done all this because we just react to things rather than plan them out with any degree of precision.
The prime examples of this are Iraq, Libya and Syria. I doubt there are very many people on this planet that couldn't predict what would happen when Saddam in Iraq , Daffy Duck in Libya and the attempt on Assad in Syria were removed from power. Everyone knew or should I say, everyone SHOULD have known what would happen if there was a power vacuum in those countries.....and that is simple chaos. Those strongmen were needed to keep the various factions in those countries from waging war on each other. We mindlessly went into to each of them and, even if you think the US went in with the noblest intentions (which I don't think, by the way), the fact that we didn't have an end game all mapped out in terms of who would take over the roles in government leadership is very apparent. We destroyed those countries and we didn't even have a fucking plan as to how to help them stabilize themselves.
The leaders of Russia and China are assholes. Hell, the leaders of just about every nation on the face of the earth are assholes. You don't get there by being nice guys. You get there by being psychopaths. But what most other countries have are leaders who at least make an effort at planning how things are going to get done. In other words, they seem to have a view of th world that takes them past 8PM that night. We don't. We'll plan military operations down to the nano-second, but long term? Shit, long term for this country is next weekend's NFL games.
Get us out of MENA before we fuck things up even more with boots on the ground that will, due to a lack of planning for the operations and a defined end game, both get a large number of those boots killed or wounded, and quite possibly lead to WWIII before the end of the decade.
Yeah well, our western 'leaders' have a plan that extends well past 8pm and next weeks' NFL matchup.
The Zios have convinced the Fundies that Is-Ra-El must be defended at all cost. Per the Yinon plan, it means that any and all opposing factions must be co-opted or exterminated.
Ironically, the Islamists have exactly the same philosophy.
Do the Fundies realize this?
I reckon the term 'useful idiot' was coined specifically for them.
People say people learns. I start thinking USA ruined these countries with fully awareness: they want these countries to be a mess to eventually weaken Europe. I don't know why USA did that to its alias but that seems to be the most reasonable conclusion:?Ukraine is the new Iraq and NATO is trying to mess with the neighbour of (nuke armed) Russia. Ukraine was not in the best shape but it's like heaven compare to now. What did US officer say??“?uck the EU!".
US doesn't want a peaceful world because it can not rule a peaceful world. It can, however, rule the world with it's fleets and missles if everyone wants to kill each other. Hence the action around Europe, in Ukrain and in Sourth China Sea.
People say people learns. I start thinking USA ruined these countries with fully awareness: they want these countries to be a mess to eventually weaken Europe. I don't know why USA did that to its alias but that seems to be the most reasonable conclusion:?Ukraine is the new Iraq and NATO is trying to mess with the neighbour of (nuke armed) Russia. Ukraine was not in the best shape but it's like heaven compare to now. What did US officer say??“?uck the EU!".
US doesn't want a peaceful world because it can not rule a peaceful world. It can, however, rule the world with it's fleets and missles if everyone wants to kill each other. Hence the action around Europe, in Ukrain and in Sourth China Sea.
So, tell me again, Ash- Who exactly is getting 'bogged down' in the ME?
Both Napoleon and Hitler learned this lesson the hard way...
You fuck with the Russians, you lose. They're slow to mount, but once in saddle, fast riders.
Pretty sure Xi is aware of this as well.
So go ahead, idiot. Escalate your proxy war. You won't survive it.
AUDIT THE PENTAGON AND THE RUSSIANS NOW!
To quote my elderly Mother "I grew up during a World War - now it looks like i'll "leave" during a World War. War is worse than Hell"
Its none of America's business.
Pack up and leave.
Squid
Boots on the ground to slay the Frankenstein they created? I think it is high time for the monster and mad doctor to go down together ..
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/26/real-reason-for-isis-and-the-war...
https://app.box.com/s/hfgvcqg7gqh7i27at6sv53ywu87lwarp (Mike Harris Preston James Oct 22 2015.mp3)
boots on a ground
boots on a ground
akn like a foo
which yo boots on a ground
Bullish!!!
Dear Pres. Obama:
After batting 100% in botched "diplomacy" in Libya, Ukraine, Syria (to name just the biggest 3 disasters) why does Victoria Nuland, Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs still have a job?
A prompt response is appreciated.
o.k.
She is tribe. When you screw up so miserably, perhaps that is the goal.
I'm still at a loss as to why these neo-cons feel they have the right to decide who leads any country. Why is the US in Syria or any other place for that matter beyond destabilizing the sovereign rights of ordinary people throughout the world. McCain is psychotic.
Can't let Putin win this thing by himself - that would embarrass us!
OBOMINATION OF DESOLATION : CabalA$$LickerLiarAntichristObamma , time is coming, go to Israel , stand in the Al-Aqsa mosque (former Jewish temple of animal sacrifice & blood letting [haha to please g.o.d.] )
And Let the world know that you are the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION that leads the whole world to utter destruction
Songbird McCain should really be put out to pasture.
Wasn't the peace prize winning, most honest and transparent president ever supposed to bring the troops home?
Bad idea. IS would love to get their hands on a US soldier. Losing his head would be the least of his concerns.
So who are the US troops going to shoot at - Russians, Turks, Saudis, Syrians, Israelis? All of the above?
It seems to me that it is a green light to carve up Syria, a little for Turkey, a slice for Saudi, a chunk for Israel and a strategic depopulation program provides cheap labor for Europe. Everyone is happy except for the Alawites of Syria who will be slaughtered in a genocide by the 'moderate' rebels if they get their way and the Russians will either have to put up a fight or leave. I am sure this is not going to end well and Washington won't be happy until they have the really big war they've been shopping for, you know, the distraction from an economy that requires infinite debt and infinite quantitative easing.... yeah easing.... easing into a major war. It has to be said and understood that any US troops or its allies fighting on the ground in Syria will be an illegal force. US troops if/when on the ground in Syria will die in combat and if killed by Russians it is guaranteed that shit will hit the fan. I will not put it past my criminal government to sacrifice Americans for geopolitical gain and money.
And the Christians. 50,000, according to a UN report, were slaughtered in Homos.
On another note, I wonder if MSgt. Wheeler was killed with any of the 50 tons of munitions dropped to ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al Nustra, whatever by the US?
NO to troops on the ground! Unless McCain and Lindsay want to go.
Stock markets are ready to roll over and tank.
barry calls for war.
And that's how barry rolls.
“increasing its attacks on ISIS through more ground action and airstrikes”
“Just Us” and their minions want a do-over? Figures. More boots IN the ground. Anyone facing deployment should GTFO while you can (legally, no desertion) before you are sacrificed for regime propaganda. Save yourself for the battles that are worth fighting for.
+ 100
~ DC
i'd be queasy about this if i wasn't totally confindent that nothing could go wrong.
McCain was captured and kept in a 'pit' in Vietnam - Every morning the 'Vietcong' would come by and take a 'DUMP' on him - This is where McCain got the 'NickName' SHITHEAD !!! - True story !
Ok. Troops in Syria and Iraq. What is the endgame?
Under what circumstances will we bring our troops home? Will we keep them there until ISIS is completely gone? Will we pull them out even though Russia and Iran are on the ground? Or will this be the second longest ongoing war the US is in, the first being Afghanistan? (where we just increased the count to 10,000)
Meanwhile, we're in some kind of bravado contest with China with our Navy. Do we think the Chinese will just say, "Oh your right, we made a mistake and will stop building our islands?" What is the endgame?
These incursions are NOT well thought out. They could end up making Vietnam look like a sunday school party.
OBAMA YOU FUCKING NUGGET! THIS IS NOW A RELIGUOUS WAR. SUNNI VS SHIA! WTF ARE AMERICAN SOLDIERS GOING TO DO?
I swear, Obama and his team have to be thick.
The best way to do this is via the Russian model of letting the Iranians clean house. The replacement cost on an Iranian fighter is cheap and they are lining up miles deep in Iran to get into Iraq to fight Daesh.
Only Obama & Co would be dumb enough to bring a transgender Army to an Islamic turf war.
there is something they are trying to hide of get the IDF out.
did you see this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJjFHVe2rD8