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Embracing The Dark Side: A Short History Of The Pathological Neocon Quest For Empire
Submitted by Dan Sanchez via DanSanchez.me,
When Bill Kristol watches Star Wars movies, he roots for the Galactic Empire. The leading neocon recently caused a social media disturbance in the Force when he tweeted this predilection for the Dark Side following the debut of the final trailer for Star Wars: The Force Awakens.
Kristol sees the Empire as basically a galaxy-wide extrapolation of what he has long wanted the US to have over the Earth: what he has termed “benevolent global hegemony.”
Kristol, founder and editor of neocon flagship magazine The Weekly Standard,responded to scandalized critics by linking to a 2002 essay from the Standard’s blog that justifies even the worst of Darth Vader’s atrocities. In “The Case for the Empire,” Jonathan V. Last made a Kristolian argument that you can’t make a “benevolent hegemony” omelet without breaking a few eggs.
And what if those broken eggs are civilians, like Luke Skywalker’s uncle and aunt who were gunned down by Imperial Stormtroopers in their home on the Middle Eastern-looking arid planet of Tatooine (filmed on location in Tunisia)? Well, as Last sincerely argued, Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru hid Luke and harbored the fugitive droids R2D2 and C3P0; so they were “traitors” who were aiding the rebellion and deserved to be field-executed.
A year after Kristol published Last’s essay, large numbers of civilians were killed by American Imperial Stormtroopers in their actual Middle Eastern arid homeland of Iraq, thanks largely in part to the direct influence of neocons like Kristol and Last.
That war was similarly justified in part by the false allegation that Iraq ruler Saddam Hussein was harboring and aiding terrorist enemies of the empire like Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. The civilian-slaughtering siege of Fallujah, one of the most brutal episodes of the war, was also specifically justified by the false allegation that the town was harboring Zarqawi.
In reality Hussein had put a death warrant out on Zarqawi, who was hiding from Iraq’s security forces under the protective aegis of the US Air Force in Iraq’s autonomous Kurdish region. It was only after the Empire precipitated the chaotic collapse of Iraq that Zarqawi’s outfit was able to thrive and evolve into Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). And after the Empire precipitated the chaotic collapse of Syria, AQI further mutated into Syrian al-Qaeda (which has conquered much of Syria) and ISIS (which has conquered much of Syria and Iraq).
And what if the “benevolent hegemony” omelet requires the breaking of “eggs” the size of whole worlds, like how high Imperial officer Wilhuff Tarkin used the Death Star to obliterate the planet Alderaan? Well, as Last sincerely argued, even Alderaan likely deserved its fate, since it may have been, “a front for Rebel activity or at least home to many more spies and insurgents…” Last contended that Princess Leia was probably lying when she told the Death Star’s commander that the planet had “no weapons.”
While Last was writing his apologia for global genocide, his fellow neocons were baselessly arguing that Saddam Hussein was similarly lying about Iraq not having a weapons of mass destruction (WMD) program. Primarily on that basis, the obliteration of an entire country began the following year.
And a year after that, President Bush performed a slapstick comedy act about his failure to find Iraqi WMDs for a black-tie dinner for radio and television correspondents. The media hacks in his audience, who had obsequiously helped the neocon-dominated Bush administration lie the country into war, rocked with laughter as thousands of corpses moldered in Iraq and Arlington. A more sickening display of imperial decadence and degradation has not been seen perhaps since the gladiatorial audiences of Imperial Rome. This is the hegemonic “benevolence” and “national greatness” that Kristol pines for.
“Benevolent global hegemony” was coined by Kristol and fellow neocon Robert Kaganand their 1996 Foreign Affairs article “Toward a Neo-Reaganite Foreign Policy.” In that essay, Kristol and Kagan sought to inoculate both the conservative movement and US foreign policy against the isolationism of Pat Buchanan.
The Soviet menace had recently disappeared, and the Cold War along with it. The neocons were terrified that the American public would therefore jump at the chance to lay their imperial burdens down. Kristol and Kagan urged their readers to resist that temptation, and to instead capitalize on America’s new peerless preeminence by making it a big-spending, hyper-active, busybody globo-cop. The newfound predominance must become dominance wherever and whenever possible. That way, any future near-peer competitors would be nipped in the bud, and the new “unipolar moment” would last forever.
What made this neocon dream seem within reach was the indifference of post-Soviet Russia. The year after the Berlin Wall fell, the Persian Gulf War against Iraq was the debut “police action” of unipolar “Team America, World Police.” Paul Wolfowitz, the neocon and Iraq War architect, considered it a successful trial run. As Wesley Clark, former Nato Supreme Allied Commander for Europe, recalled:
“In 1991, [Wolfowitz] was the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy?—?the number 3 position at the Pentagon. And I had gone to see him when I was a 1-Star General commanding the National Training Center. (…)
And I said, “Mr. Secretary, you must be pretty happy with the performance of the troops in Desert Storm.”
And he said: “Yeah, but not really, because the truth is we should have gotten rid of Saddam Hussein, and we didn’t … But one thing we did learn is that we can use our military in the region?—?in the Middle East?—?and the Soviets won’t stop us. And we’ve got about 5 or 10 years to clean up those old Soviet client regimes?—?Syria, Iran, Iraq?—?before the next great superpower comes on to challenge us.”
The 1996 “Neo-Reaganite” article was part of a surge of neocon literary activity in the mid-90s. It was in 1995 that Kristol and John Podhoretz founded The Weekly Standard with funding from right-wing media mogul Rupert Murdoch.
Also in 1996, David Wurmser wrote a strategy document for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Titled, “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm,” it was co-signed by Wurmser’s fellow neocons and future Iraq War architects Richard Perle and Douglas Feith. “A Clean Break” called for regime change in Iraq as a “means” of “weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria.” Syria itself was a target because it “challenges Israel on Lebanese soil.” It primarily does this by, along with Iran, supporting the paramilitary group Hezbollah, which arose in the 80s out of the local resistance to the Israeli occupation of Lebanon, and which continually foils Israel’s ambitions in that country.
Later that same year, Wurmser wrote another strategy document, this time for circulation in American and European halls of power, titled “Coping with Crumbling States: A Western and Israeli Balance of Power Strategy for the Levant.”
In “A Clean Break,” Wurmser had framed regime change in Iraq and Syria in terms of Israeli regional ambitions. In “Coping,” Wurmser adjusted his message for its broader Western audience by recasting the very same policies in a Cold War framework.
Wurmser characterized regime change in Iraq and Syria (both ruled by Baathist regimes) as “expediting the chaotic collapse” of secular-Arab nationalism in general, and Baathism in particular. He concurred with King Hussein of Jordan that, “the phenomenon of Baathism,” was, from the very beginning, “an agent of foreign, namely Soviet policy.” Of course King Hussein was a bit biased on the matter, since his own Hashemite royal family once ruled both Iraq and Syria. Wurmser argued that:
“…the battle over Iraq represents a desperate attempt by residual Soviet bloc allies in the Middle East to block the extension into the Middle East of the impending collapse that the rest of the Soviet bloc faced in 1989.”
Wurmser further derided Baathism in Iraq and Syria as an ideology in a state of “crumbling descent and missing its Soviet patron” and “no more than a Cold War enemy relic on probation.”
Wurmser advised the West to put this anachronistic adversary out of its misery, and to thus, in Kristolian fashion, press America’s Cold War victory on toward its final culmination. Baathism should be supplanted by what he called the “Hashemite option.” After their chaotic collapse, Iraq and Syria would be Hashemite possessions once again. Both would be dominated by the royal house of Jordan, which in turn, happens to be dominated by the US and Israel.
Wurmser stressed that demolishing Baathism must be the foremost priority in the region. Secular-Arab nationalism should be given no quarter, not even, he added, for the sake of stemming the tide of Islamic fundamentalism.
Thus we see one of the major reasons why the neocons were such avid anti-Soviets during the Cold War. It is not just that, as post-Trotskyites, the neocons resented Joseph Stalin for having Leon Trotsky assassinated in Mexico with an ice pick. The Israel-first neocons’ main beef with the Soviets was that, in various disputes and conflicts involving Israel, Russia sided with secular-Arab nationalist regimes from 1953 onward.
The neocons used to be Democrats in the big-government, Cold Warrior mold of Harry Truman and Henry “Scoop” Jackson. After the Vietnam War and the rise of the anti-war New Left, the Democratic Party’s commitment to the Cold War waned, so the neocons switched to the Republicans in disgust.
According to investigative reporter Jim Lobe, the neocons got their first taste of power within the Reagan administration, in which positions were held by neocons such as Wolfowitz, Perle, Elliot Abrams, and Michael Ledeen. They were especially influential during Reagan’s first term of saber-rattling, clandestine warfare, and profligate defense spending, which Kristol and Kagan remembered so fondly in their “Neo-Reaganite” manifesto.
It was then that the neocons helped establish the “Reagan Doctrine.” According to neocon columnist Charles Krauthammer, who coined the term in 1985, the Reagan Doctrine was characterized by support for anti-communist (in reality often simply anti-leftist) forces around the whole world.
Since the support was clandestine, the Reagan administration was able to bypass the “Vietnam Syndrome” and project power in spite of the public’s continuing war weariness. (It was left to Reagan’s successor, the first President Bush, to announce following his “splendid little” Gulf War that, “by God, we’ve kicked the Vietnam Syndrome once and for all!”)
Operating covertly, the Reaganites could also use any anti-communist group they found useful, no matter how ruthless and ugly: from Contra death squads in Nicaragua to the Islamic fundamentalist mujahideen in Afghanistan. Abrams and Ledeen were both involved in the Iran-Contra affair, and Abrams was convicted (though later pardoned) on related criminal charges.
Kristol’s “Neo-Reaganite” co-author Robert Kagan gave the doctrine an even wider and more ambitious interpretation in his book A Twilight Struggle :
“The Reagan Doctrine has been widely understood to mean only support for anticommunist guerrillas fighting pro-Soviet regimes, but from the first the doctrine had a broader meaning. Support for anticommunist guerrillas was the logical outgrowth, not the origin, of a policy of supporting democratic reform or revolution everywhere, in countries ruled by right-wing dictators as well as by communist parties.”
As this description makes plain, neocon policy, from the 1980s to today, has been every bit as fanatical, crusading, and world-revolutionary as Red Communism was in the neocon propaganda of yesteryear, and that Islam is in the neocon propaganda of today.
The neocons credit Reagan’s early belligerence with the eventual dissolution of the Soviet Union. But in reality, war is the health of the State, and Cold War was the health of Soviet State. The Soviets long used the American menace to frighten the Russian people into rallying around the State for protection.
After the neocons lost clout within the Reagan administration to “realists” like George Schultz, the later Reagan-Thatcher-Gorbachev detente began. It was only after that detente lifted the Russian siege atmosphere and quieted existential nuclear nightmares that the Russian people felt secure enough to demand a changing of the guard.
In 1983, the same year that the first Star Wars trilogy ended, Reagan vilified Soviet Russia in language that Star Wars fans could understand by dubbing it “the Evil Empire.” Years later, having, in Kristol’s words, “defeated the evil empire,” the neocons that Reagan first lifted to power began clamoring for a “neo-Reaganite” global hegemony. And a few years after that, those same neocons began pointing to the sci-fi Galactic Empire that Reagan implicitly compared to the Soviets as a lovely model for America!
Fast-forward to return to the neocon literary flowering of the mid-90s. In 1997, the year after writing “Toward a Neo-Reaganite Foreign Policy” together, Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan co-founded The Project for a New American Century (PNAC). The 20th century is often called “the American century,” largely due to it being a century of war and American “victories” in those wars: the two World Wars and the Cold War. The neocons sought to ensure that through the never-ending exercise of military might, the American global hegemony achieved through those wars would last another hundred years, and that the 21st century too would be “American.”
The organization’s founding statement of principles called for “a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity” and reads like an executive summary of the founding duo’s “Neo-Reaganite” essay. It was signed by neocons such as Wolfowitz, Abrams, Norman Podhoretz and Frank Gaffney; by future Bush administration officials such as Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Lewis “Scooter” Libby; and by other neocon allies, such as Jeb Bush.
Although PNAC called for interventions ranging from Serbia (to roll back Russian influence in Europe) to Taiwan (to roll back Chinese influence in Asia), its chief concern was to kick off the restructuring of the Middle East envisioned in “A Clean Break” and “Coping” by advocating its first step: regime change in Iraq.
The most high-profile parts of this effort were two “open letters” published in 1998, one in January addressed to President Bill Clinton, and another in May addressed to leaders of Congress. As with its statement of principles, PNAC was able to garner signatures for these letters from a wide range of political luminaries, including neocons (like Perle), neocon allies (like John Bolton), and other non-neocons (like James Woolsey and Robert Zoellick).
The open letters characterized Iraq as “a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War,” and buttressed this ridiculous claim with the now familiar allegations of Saddam building a WMD program.
Thanks in large part to PNAC’s pressure, regime change in Iraq became official US policy in October when Congress passed, and President Clinton signed, the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998. (Notice the Clinton-friendly “humanitarian interventionist” name in spite of the policy’s conservative fear-mongering origins.)
After the Supreme Court delivered George W. Bush the presidency, the neocons were back in the imperial saddle again in 2001: just in time to make their projected “New American Century” of “Neo-Reaganite Global Hegemony” a reality. The first order of business, of course, was Iraq.
But some pesky national security officials weren’t getting with the program and kept trying to distract the administration with concerns about some Osama bin Laden character and his Al Qaeda outfit. Apparently they were laboring under some pedestrian notion that their job was to protect the American people and not to conquer the world.
For example, when National Security Council counterterrorism “czar” Richard Clarke was frantically sounding the alarm over an imminent terrorist attack on America,Wolfowitz was uncomprehending. As Clarke recalled, the then Deputy Defense Secretary objected:
“I just don’t understand why we are beginning by talking about this one man, bin Laden.”
Clarke informed him that:
“We are talking about a network of terrorist organizations called al-Qaeda, that happens to be led by bin Laden, and we are talking about that network because it and it alone poses an immediate and serious threat to the United States.”
This simply did not fit in the agenda-driven neocon worldview of Wolfowitz, who responded:
“Well, there are others that do as well, at least as much. Iraqi terrorism for example.”
And as Peter Beinhart recently wrote:
“During that same time period [in 2001], the CIA was raising alarms too. According to Kurt Eichenwald, a former New York Times reporter given access to the Daily Briefs prepared by the intelligence agencies for President Bush in the spring and summer of 2001, the CIA told the White House by May 1 that ‘a group presently in the United States’ was planning a terrorist attack. On June 22, the Daily Brief warned that al-Qaeda strikes might be ‘imminent.’
But the same Defense Department officials who discounted Clarke’s warnings pushed back against the CIA’s. According to Eichenwald’s sources, ‘the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat.’
By the time Clarke and the CIA got the Bush administration’s attention, it was already too late to follow any of the clear leads that might have been followed to prevent the 9/11 attacks.
The terrorist attacks by Sunni Islamic fundamentalists mostly from the Saudi Kingdom hardly fit the neocon agenda of targeting the secular-Arab nationalist regimes of Iraq and Syria and the Shiite Republic of Iran: especially since all three of the latter were mortal enemies of bin Laden types.
But the attackers were, like Iraqis, some kind of Muslims from the general area of the Middle East. And that was good enough for government work in the American idiocracy. After a youth consumed with state-compelled drudgery, most Americans are so stupid and incurious that such a meaningless relationship, enhanced with some fabricated “intelligence,” was more than enough to stampede the spooked American herd into supporting the Iraq War.
As Benjamin Netanyahu once said, “America is a thing you can move very easily.”
Whether steering the country into war would be easy or not, it was all neocon hands on deck. At the Pentagon there was Wolfowitz and Perle, with Perle-admirer Rumsfeld as SecDef. Feith was also at Defense, where he set up two new offices for the special purpose of spinning “intelligence” yarn to tie Saddam with al-Qaeda and to weave fanciful pictures of secret Iraqi WMD programs.
Wurmser himself labored in one of these offices, followed by stints at State aiding neocon-ally Bolton and in the Vice President’s office aiding neocon-ally Cheney along with Scooter Libby.
Iran-Contra convict Abrams was at the National Security Council aiding Condoleezza Rice. And Kristol and Kagan continued to lead the charge in the media and think tank worlds.
And they pulled it off. Wurmser finally got his “chaotic collapse” in Iraq. And Kristol finally had his invincible, irresistible, hyper-active hegemony looming over the world like a Death Star.
The post-9/11 pretense-dropping American Empire even had Dick Cheney with his Emperor Palpatine snarl preparing Americans to accept torture by saying:
“We also have to work, though, sort of the dark side, if you will.”
The Iraq War ended up backfiring on the neocons. It installed a new regime in Baghdad that was no more favorable toward Israel and far more favorable toward Israel’s enemies Iran and Syria. But the important thing was that Kristol’s Death Star was launched and in orbit. As long as it was still in proactive mode, there was nothing the neocons could not fix with its awful power.
This seemed true even during the Obama presidency. On top of Iraq and Afghanistan, under Obama the American Death Star has demolished Yemen and Somalia. It also demolished both Syria and Libya, where it continues the Wurmsurite project of precipitating the chaotic collapse of secular-Arab nationalism. Islamic terror groups including al-Qaeda and ISIS are thriving in that chaos, but the American Death Star to this day has adhered to Wurmser’s de-prioritization of the Islamist threat.
As Yoda said, “Fear is the path to the Dark Side.” The neocons have been able to use the fear generated by a massive Islamic fundamentalist terror attack to pursue their blood-soaked vendetta against secular-Arab nationalists, even to the benefit of the very Islamic fundamentalists who attacked us, because even after 12 years Americans are still too bigoted and oblivious to distinguish between the two groups.
Furthermore, Obama has gone beyond Wurmser’s regional ambitions and has fulfilled Kristol’s busybody dreams of global hegemony to a much greater extent than Bush ever did. To appease generals and arms merchants worried about his prospective pull-outs from the Iraqi and Afghan theaters, Obama launched both an imperial “pivot” to Asia and a stealth invasion of Africa. The pull-outs were aborted, but the continental “pivots” remain. Thus Obama’s pretenses as a peace President helped to make his regime the most ambitiously imperialistic and globe-spanning that history has ever seen.
But the neocons may have overdone it with their Death Star shooting spree, because another great power now seems determined to put a stop to it. And who is foiling the neocons’ Evil Empire? Why none other than the original “Evil Empire”: the neocons’ old nemesis Russia.
In 2013, Russia’s Putin diplomatically frustrated the neocons’ attempt to deliver the coup de grâce to the Syrian regime with a US air war. Shortly afterward, Robert Kagan’s wife Victoria Nuland yanked Ukraine out of Russia’s sphere of influence by engineering a bloody coup in Kiev. Putin countered by bloodlessly annexing the Ukrainian province of Crimea. A proxy war followed between the US-armed and Western-financed junta in Kiev and pro-Russian separatists in the east of the country.
The US continued to intervene in Syria, heavily sponsoring an insurgency dominated by extremists including al-Qaeda and ISIS. But recently, Russia decided to intervene militarily. Suddenly, Wolfowitz’s lesson from the Gulf War was up in smoke. The neocons cannot militarily do whatever they want in the Middle East and trust that Russia will stand idly by. Suddenly the arrogant Wolfowitz/Wurmser dream of crumbling then cleaning up “old Soviet client regimes” and “Cold War enemy relics” had gone poof. Putin decided that Syria would be one “Cold War relic” turned terrorist playground too many.
Russia’s entry into Syria has thrown all of the neocons’ schemes into disarray.
By actually working to destroy Syrian al-Qaeda and ISIS instead of just pretending to, as the US and its allies have, Russia threatens to eliminate the head-chopping bogeymen whose Live Leak-broadcasted brutal antics continually renew in Americans the war-fueling terror of 9/11. And after Putin had taken the US air strike option off the table, al-Qaeda and ISIS were the neocons most powerful tools for bringing down the Syrian regime. And now Russia is threatening to take those toys away too.
If Hezbollah and Iran, with Russia’s air cover, manage to help save what is left of Syria from the Salafist psychos, they will be more prestigious in both Syria and Lebanon than ever, and Israel may never be able to dominate its northern neighbors.
The neocons are livid. After the conflicts over Syria and Ukraine in 2013, they had already started ramping up the vilification of Putin. Now the demonization has gone into overdrive.
One offering in this milieu has been an article by Matthew Continetti in the neocon web site he edits, The Washington Free Beacon. Titled “A Reagan Doctrine for the Twenty-First Century,” it obviously aims to be a sequel to Kristol’s and Kagan’s “Toward a Neo-Reaganite Foreign Policy.” As it turns out, the Russian “Evil Empire” was not defeated after all: only temporarily dormant. And so Continetti’s updated Reaganite manifesto is subtitled, “How to confront Vladimir Putin.”
The US military may be staggering around the planet like a drunken, bloated colossus. Yet Continetti still dutifully trots out all the Kristolian tropes about the need for military assertiveness (more drunken belligerence), massive defense spending (more bloating), and “a new American century.” Reaganism is needed now just as much as in 1996, he avers: in fact, doubly so, for Russia has reemerged as:
“…the greatest military and ideological threat to the United States and to the world order it has built over decades as guarantor of international security.”
Right, just look at all that security sprouting out of all those bomb craters the US has planted throughout much of the world. Oh wait no, those are terrorists.
Baby-faced Continetti, a Weekly Standard contributor, is quite the apprentice to Sith Lord Kristol, judging from his ardent faith in the “Benevolent Global Hegemony” dogma. In fact, he even shares Lord Kristol’s enthusiasm for “Benevolent Galactic Hegemony.” It was Continetti who kicked off the recent Star Wars/foreign policy brouhaha when he tweeted:
“I’ve been rooting for the Empire since 1983”
This elicited a concurring response from Kristol, which is what set Twitter atwitter. Of course the whole thing was likely staged and coordinated between the two neocon operatives.
Unfortunately for the neocons, demonizing Putin over Syria is not nearly as easy as demonizing Putin over Ukraine. With Ukraine, there was a fairly straight-forward (if false) narrative to build of big bully Russia and plucky underdog Ukraine.
However, it’s pretty hard to keep a lid on the fact that Russia is attacking al-Qaeda and ISIS, along with any CIA-trained jihadist allies are nearby. And it’s inescapably unseemly for the US foreign policy establishment to be so bent out of shape about Russia bombing sworn enemies of the American people, even if it does save some dictator most Americans don’t care about one way or the other.
And now that wildly popular wild card Donald Trump is spouting unwelcome common sense to his legions of followers about how standing back and letting Russia bomb anti-American terrorists is better than starting World War III over it. And this is on top of the fact that Trump is deflating Jeb Bush’s campaign by throwing shade at his brother’s neocon legacy, from the failures over 9/11 to the disastrous decision to regime change Iraq. And the neocon-owned Marco Rubio, who actually adopted “A New American Century” as his campaign slogan, is similarly making no headway against Trump.
And Russia’s involvement in Syria just keeps getting worse for the neocons. Washington threatened to withdraw support from the Iraqi government if it accepted help from Russia against ISIS. Iraq accepted Russian help anyway. Baghdad has also sent militias to fight under Russian air cover alongside Syrian, Iranian, and Hezbollah forces.
Even Jordan, that favorite proxy force in Israel’s dreams of regional dominance, has begun coordinating with Russia, in spite of its billion dollars a year of annual aid from Washington. Et tu Jordan?!
Apparently there aren’t enough Federal Reserve notes in Janet Yellen’s imagination to pay Iraq and Jordan to tolerate living amid a bin Ladenite maelstrom any longer.
And what is Washington going to do about it if the whole region develops closer ties with Russia? What are the American people going to let them get away with doing about it? A palace coup in Jordan? Expend more blood and treasure to overthrow the very same Iraqi government we already lost much blood and treasure in installing? Start a suicidal hot war with nuclear Russia?
And the neocon’s imperial dreams are coming apart at the seams outside of the war zones too. The new Prime Minister of Canada just announced he will pull out of America’s war in the Levant. Europe wants to compromise with Russia on both Ukraine and Syria, and this willingness will grow as the refugee crisis it is facing worsens. Obama made a nuclear deal with Iran and initiated detente with Cuba. And worst of all for neocons, the Israeli occupation of Palestine is being de-legitimized by the bourgeoning BDS movement and by images of its own brutality propagating through social media, along with translations of its hateful rhetoric.
The neocons bit off more than they could chew, and their Galactic Empire is falling apart before it could even fully conquer its first planet.
Nearly all empires end due to over-extension. If brave people from Ottawa to Baghdad simply say “enough” within a brief space of time, hopefully this empire can dissolve relatively peacefully like the Soviet Empire did, leaving its host civilization intact, instead of dragging that civilization into oblivion along with it like the Roman Empire did.
But beware, the imperial war party will not go quietly into the night, unless we in their domestic tax base insist that there is no other way. If, in desperation, they start calling for things like more boots on the ground, reinstating the draft, or declaring World War III on Russia and its Middle Eastern allies, we must stand up and say with firm voices something along the lines of the following:
No. You will not have my son for your wars. And we will not surrender any more of our liberty. We will no longer yield to a regime led by a neocon clique that threatens to extinguish the human race. Your power fantasy of universal empire is over. Just let it go. Or, as Anakin finally did when the Emperor came for his son, we will hurl your tyranny into the abyss.
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Actually, the "quest for empire" is not novel to the Neocons. It is as old as history itself... duly "recorded" in the Old Testament and discreetly translated into a plan of action in the Talmud and Protocols. What is amazing is not that the self-chosen attempt world-domination, but rather that we idiotic goy tolerate their manevolent behavior generation after generation ad infinitum. What must it take to end all of this lunacy?
Exactly, Neo-Cons are just leftists that the narrative is saying are conservative and represent the right. They don't, and that is the problem. The majority has no representation anymore. Nationalists are being told they are evil by actors pretending to be nationalists while promoting Communist ideology.
This site has turned into a propganda mindfuck.
Bill Kristol is a leftist nut. He's not a conservative. The Neo-cons are former democrats who believe their former party was too soft on war. They combine the worst of both idealogies. Big spending and endless war.
Just follow Vicky Noodleman's travels for a future prediction of where regime change will land http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2015/10/248314.htm
and when pressed they are certainly willing to take a page from mexico's playbook. you betcha.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/10/28/human-rights-group-ques...
All that's left to pay are the consequences bitches!! Sweet dreams too.
Wait, isn't the Star Wars series of movies, just that? Movies?
Do these guys really live trying to act out movies?
Close. The movies are heavily inspired by, even analogous to WWII history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_sources_and_analogues#Historical
Act out movies? No - emulate others from history, yes.
what would you term george w. bush's administration? big spending and endless war seems about right.
how about john mccain, the next republican nominee? ditto. mitt romney? i don't see any significant difference -- big time zionist and massachusetts spender.
you can say they aren't conservatives and you're right.
obama isn't a liberal and neither is either clinton. so what?
it's not what they differ on that's the problem. it's what they agree on.
neo conservative. neo liberal.
fuck it. they're banksters and zionists. done.
"you can say they aren't conservatives and you're right."
Ugh, no. Political "economy" has a spectrum for a reason.
"Conservatives" have always been pro-monopoly, anti-labor, pro-Supply side, anti-demand side, pro-monetary policy, anti-fiscal policy. (pro-rich)
"Liberals" have always represented "small business", more civil freedom (until lately), pro-worker's rights, pro-demand economy, pro-fiscal policy. (pro-middle class)
If any "labels" are going to be used, at least get it fucking right.
If you say it doesn't matter, because the "public" policy of politicians is the opposite of the "private" policy, then that you can say is "right".
where are these liberals of whom you speak? bernie sanders might count, elizabeth warren. dennis kucinich, paul wellstone, rip, jfk, rip.
not too many at the centers of power though, are there, save jfk, rip?
also i think your lists of characterizations are simplistic beyond pro captial vs. pro labor. conservatives certainly have a deep fissure on civil liberties between libertarians and the rest.
no "conservatives" since the work of keynes became known have been loathe to use fiscal policy to retain power. they just spend it on somewhat different things.
to say liberals have always represented something until lately is to say what exactly?
"Exactly, Neo-Cons are just leftists that the narrative is saying are conservative and represent the right. They don't, and that is the problem. The majority has no representation anymore. Nationalists are being told they are evil by actors pretending to be nationalists while promoting Communist ideology."
yep (i always downvote an article when they use the term "neocon" as it is a term statists use to misdirect)
"They don't, and that is the problem."
Neo-cons represent:
* big business, so do conservatives
* regressive taxation, so do conservatives
* central banking, so do conservatives
* supply-side economics of the wealthy, so do conservatives
* monetary policy, so do conservatives
So, what exactly is so different? Or are you in the wrong classification?
Most, when questioned on individual stands, are "not" the "label" they claim they are.
Neo-Libs are the same but are quieter about it. Schumer, Feinstein and a bunch more. The USA has the uniparty run by Deep State. They are destroying America and Europe with open borders. They are dual shit-i-zens or they love dual shit-i-zens and Bibi/Jonathan Pollard.
@majestic12
True conservatives are constitutional conservatives and do not represent any of what you claim they do.
Your comment lacks the word "progressive" , and thus blows back in your face. Like CNBC last night.
Grimaldus
Hows the coffee there at the Pentagon?
USSA and its MIC/NSA are the real terrorists, economically, militarlity, morally and gastronomically
JS Bach - Your answer is that of the Jews, that took at least a couple tgousand years tl fogure out. Ready? YOU ARE YOUR BROTHERS KEEEPER. Now, the Jews have again partially forgetten that so as another world war comes, expect the Jews in Israel and American to say, sorry whats thats, your screaming? Not saying all of these cycles are great, its all evolution.
And I say partially bexause in science and medicine the Jews have made a great contribution. But them like us Americans are resonsible for holding leadership accountable or not.
We all tend to awaken based on pain, alas most times too late. Why I know longer act as if my shit does not stink. But as Maiminedes said, one must act as if he or she can tip the balance of this world. Because that is true but it does come with risk and pain as well as personal evolution in satisfaction in life. A deep subject...
In a binary system, choose to internalize, take some pain and sleep at night or externalize, blame shift and steal. Striving for balance is easier said than done but one way we advance and the other we stall. No judgement flr those that TRY and that is all I can say as a person I do. Moses was right, choose life or choose death. Such is a 3D system. Only great news is we as a species are nearly beyond it.
"Moses was right"
WTF? I drink, too, but your response may be a mason "jar" over the abyss.
Btw, believe what you want. But there is little evidence that any bible character either wrote any of the words or ever lived.
The subjective "interpretation" of multiple translations is rife with ambiguity.
It is a "collection" of writings...not even a "book" in the traditional sense, especially after the Catholic church was done with it.
But to quote "characters" as if they are here on ZH reading along, is a little much.
With that, Archibald (Harry) Tuttle was right..."we're all in this together..."
"What is amazing is not that the self-chosen attempt world-domination, but rather that we idiotic goy tolerate their manevolent behavior generation after generation ad infinitum. What must it take to end all of this lunacy?"
Precisely my dear fellow. And your music is quite wonderful as well.
Khazaria was a place with a warmongering people who often used deceit as a weapon. The Rus were among their most hated enemies, especially after being defeated and scattered by them.
Lot's of 'dual citizen's' names there...Did I blink, or was Oded Yinon Plan not mentioned?
Boris, that nephew is well beyond sock usefullness. Don't touch the bath towels!
Anyone ever notice how ZH always frames things of evil as right-wing?
They never once mention anything about Communism being bad.
Because it's true. What you have been told was communism, was not.
Uhh, you retards obviously don't understand anything. That is to be expected.
Neo-Cons are being framed as right-wingers, when they are obviously Communists. They are a part of the party, we are the proles.
Yet in this article they are saying Neo-Cons are evil right-wingers and need to be opposed by more leftism. You guys can't seriously be that stupid. This site has turned into a narrative supporting mechanism, instead of what it was originally, a truth machine.
There is only state and individual, and the war is eternal
Oh yes, the old false dichotomy nonsense man vs. the state. Mix in a little of the "big lie propaganda", and you can get everyone to accept your narrative. The state as an aporatus is only indicative and representative of the nation it formed from. If that nation is flooded with variables it becomes ineffective and has to attack it's original creators to survive, as they will inevitably want to reset it. This is what makes the state hostile to it's owner's, and it's only after foreign influences have pushed their way in, be wary of foreign entanglements. Distorting the community and pushing different nations into it causes the original nation to lose control of it's own created apparatus.
There are many nations, and they are devided by genetic distinctiveness that leads to directed cultural differentiation. The state is the form by which the people of any one given nation rule. All of this authoritarianism has come from contact with the middle-east and Semitic peoples. Their culture is based around stern and harsh controls on behavior that are not conductive to inclusive relations and degeration of the cultural norms, which means a destuction of that said nation.
It was only when the Semitic people started pushing into Europe that Euorpeans have taken up arms and started projecting their power. Push out the Semitics, and keep them out. This is the only way the people of the US can regain power over their state again. Any other option is you playing right into their hands. If you fight the state, you destroy your own civilization. If you let them own and control what your state does, they will use it to destroy your civilization by killing your nationalism and nation.
My downvotes only display how deep the indoctrination and propaganda is getting on this site.
We are getting very close for the Semitics to try and take control overtly, and it's obvious by the amount of shit they pushing out. They have a dude dressed up as a woman being declared woman of the year FFS.
There is nothing from the Libertarian sphere that anyone here can use to prove me wrong on any of this. I have read almost everything Rothbard ever wrote, and Mises as well. I understand the libertarian positions, and I respect libertarians a great deal, for in a few short decades they have created an amazingly simplestic philosophy to describe the world. It's unfortunate tha tthey ignore a major aspect of how the world operates, and hwo the Smeitic people operate culturally.
Copy and paste garbage why would you have different space gaps between paragraphs. Your mother is a whore.
See look at this troll. Everything about him is contradictory.
This place is loaded with Hasbara trolls now.
Yeah, I copied and pasted the errors in grammar and typos as well, right?
communist? really? what's communism? marxism leninism? maoism? dictatorship that stole from the rich?
what's fascism? dictatorship that didn't? that's enough of a distinction to get your dander up? you must be pretty rich, but i doubt it.
the important consideration here is the ethno religious political support for this tiny but oh so important colonial outpost that got stuck in the truly innocent middle east because of the holocaust, call it real or call it exaggerated or call it fake. the arabs didn't even take sides in ww2. but zionists, many jews but hardly exclusively so have hijacked the u.s. government with the connivance of the military industrial complex and the national security state so as to have job security.
get real.
You suck dick for a living.
@Nidstyles
You know that there are different Tylers working the levers behind the curtain at this site. At least one is pro-Putin/China and is following the RT/Sputnik/Saker line quite closely. There is another who selectively sorts through the German political scene, spinning his own flava into the stories. Another (or others) does a good job documenting the economic madness being inflicted on humanity daily. The latter attracted me to ZH over 5 years ago, and it still does to this day. The former does attract a lot of eyeballs (and comments), so it must be working out well for their biz model.
Why the downvotes?
I thought ZHs were primarily interested in freedom. Are you telling me you don't agree with the analysis as to who the cultural enemy is?
I don't believe it.
I think it's more of a case of Americans not wanting to face up to the fact that some of their programming makes them universal humanists.
That's fine if all you want is to live by an ideal, come what may.
Just stop the bitching about being driven into the ground by Zios/Jewish powerbrokers.
If you don't like that, then what's the problem with the NidStyles approach?
Comment please.
Victor von Doom, don't take it personally, but I am quite sure that "why the downvotes" is one of the most futile questions here on ZH
yes, in the early and middle ages of ZH this place was crowded with libertarians. now, I would not be that sure anymore
my problem with Nid Skywalker's approach is here below. to spell it out: that beast that is the Empire of Eternal War does suck blood out of the involved states, but does not really need them
Imperialism can be done, has been done and might in future be done again on a full private basis. Example: the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company
"Neo-Cons are being framed as right-wingers, when they are obviously Communists. They are a part of the party, we are the proles. "
what I see here is the pathological need to frame the whole discussion into two sides, one good, the other bad. and then mix ideology into it
"Communist" is bad. On that I agree. But framing everything in the terms of "us" vs "them, communists" or "them, socialists", or "them, equalists" is a bit... childish
There are THREE strains of ideology, and many combinations to extremism
The (classic) liberal gone bad makes you his debt serf or sugar baby, and his hired mercenaries bomb you for the missing pound of flesh
The conservative gone bad burns you on a stake, gasses or crucifies you, particularly if you were so stupid to be born the wrong way
The socialist gone bad puts you in a labour camp and starves you... while preaching that it's your fault, really, for non-compliance to norms and equalitarian tenets
now, let's see... what are those "neo-cons" all about? well, they care about... security
so they are all about MOAR WEAPONS, and in particular about MOAR MILITARY SPENDING, which then leads to MOAR MEDDLING EVERYWHERE
so it makes sense that the Imperial Faction, "aka NeoCons" felt originally more at ease with the liberals
but the problem is that the US Democrat party has a dual-function. It's the party of US (classic) liberals and of US equalists/socialists
and for the latter, social spending is as important as "defense" spending. so they were not receptive enough for moar woars. in the sense that they generally don't mind to spend ammo for bombings and cruise missile bombings, but get queasy when it comes to boots on the ground
and so the Imperial Faction switched to the US Republicans, which is a party of US (classic) liberals and of US conservatives
In short the Imperial Faction aka "NeoCons" has liberal (classic) roots
It's about... freedom of business and money. First about military spending, then all the rest including Dollar, Oil, etc. etc. (and, of course... Israel, on the side. But mixed with Saudi Oil interests)
Calling them "communists" might make you feel good, but there is NOTHING about them that goes in the direction of more equality, what all communists steer to or less inequality, where all socialists steer to. They are not about redistribution, they are not about caring for veterans, they are only there because WAR IS A BIZ
Your flag, NidStyles, is black and yellow. The black is about no state, or as little as possible. the yellow is the classic colour of... liberalism
The recipy of complete freedom of business
Nid Skywalker, face it: Darth Vader the NeoCon is... your father. And he has your support
Your fullest support, actually, by your framing them into such terms which then misdirect the whole discussion into "us" vs "communists"
The problem is that you will have, if you want to stop them, to frame the whole thing in something that is anathema to you: "ANTI-BIZ". Can you?
Probably no, and so you will continue to be unconsciously and automatically pro-whatever-freedom-of-biz, pro-whatever-biz, and so... PRO-WAR-BIZ
This while the average equalist is horrified by all that and points at you and Darth Vader as the evil pro-biz exploitative nexus, and the average conservative is recruited as soldier, fights the imperial wars and is afterwards ditched as useless (economic) "veteran trash"
the "right-wingers", in all that, are those who get high on wars, "possessing" the most powerful military force in the world, and more violence. in this biz, they are... consumers
I agree, somewhat, to most in your post. The division of ideologies into three branches is, however, too simplistic (I know you wrote “and many combinations”). In which branch do you put anarchism (libertarianism – the US-version – is easily put in the camp of liberalism, but the other versions of anarchism? I.e. the real/historical version of libertarianism?).
And I think that it is important to make a distinction between liberal and liberalism. The former is basically being open-minded, tolerant and against regulations/laws that inflict on personal liberty (= you can be a liberal socialist) and the latter is pro-free-market/laissez faire capitalism.
three branches, but they are mixable
the US Democrats follow a mix of equalitarianism/socialism and liberalism (classic). i.e. are united in being not conservative
the US Republicans follow a mix of liberalism (classic) and conservativism, i.e. are united in being not socialist/equalitarian
here on the european continent we have "Christian Democrats", which is a mix of conservativism and equalitarianism/socialism, i.e. social conservative
this particular version is, when it goes bad, transformed into... national socialism, i.e. the nazis
my point here is that it's strongly a question of "how much", and what means are justified by what goals (and where you want to go... negative)
anarchism as such is "not included" in this model for a simple reason: those are all ideologies that give a recipy for how society and/or the state ought to behave.
on the other side, we could declare the "triple zero" of this tri-dimentional model to be the anarchist's point of view
then the classic full-monty pure anarchist disowns concepts like "society" or "state". hence he or she is completely out of scope, will not contribute to anything. zero, zero, zero
but most anarchists are nevertheless not pure anarchists. so you have the black & yellow flag, that Nid "Skywalker" here is sporting, i.e. the anarcho-liberal (classic), aka anarcho-capitalis, the black & red flag of the "anarchist of the left", i.e. anarcho-syndacalists, and the full black flag of "up your ass, die, MF" violent anarchism, among many
as you pointed out, only three dimensions don't capture fully the thing, but they do capture multiparty dealings with issues where multi-party parliaments are elected, which is it's "claim" to fame, even when "greens" have to puff and huff because they are, in this model, a breed of conservatives (they do, after all, want to conserve... the environment)
"a distinction between liberal and liberalism. " this, I fear, is only a semantic problem in the US, where social-liberal (i.e. Dem) has been rebranded as "liberal" by opponents, as a slur, btw
hence I write on ZH as often as possible "liberal (classic)". the fact that in the US the various forms of liberty are highly "segregated" in areas (economic, social) has more something to do with the fact that both parties and the whole nation subscribes to liberalism (classic) in principle
all three branches are varied and have many different sub-branches. and yet it all goes back to Liberty, Fraternity and Equality
Liberty, in it's best and simplest form, is just leaving people be in their life and dealings. the enemy of that is... illiberal
Fraternity, in it's best and simplest form, is relatives and/or neighbours caring and helping each other, scalable to clan, tribe, nation, society
Equality, in it's simplest form, is judging disputes among two individuals or groups impartially. hence Justice is depicted as blindfolded
now picture The Thing, be that the state and/or society, as a plane
each ideology says: here or there, altitude is the most important thing, and that's... me. if you lose me, you crash into something terrible
and indeed, all three are right in this. if you fight and vanquish any of the three, you lost sight of human needs, and call in the jackboot that stamps on the face of humanity
Sounds like the secret sauce recipes that diverge. I like mine with more ketchup, less mayo and a smidge of sweet relish.
Wifey is more mayo, sweet relish and a bit of ketchup. It looks like tarter sauce that had a minor accident.
I hate her secret sauce and ban it entirely from my burgers.
My burger sauce reigns supreme. You're welcome to your own, but when you come to my house for burgers, I make the sauce. I'm not letting a bunch of assholes who don't know anything about good secret sauce to run amok in my kitchen.
Secret sauce fascist.
Neo-cons are progressives. This article is a progressive head fake--"Hey look over there at the neocons" probabbly a desperate attempt at damage control because of the progressive super-murderers Hillary and Obirdbrain's doubling down on shubs middle east death machine and the oceans of blood spilt because of them. Progressives are the face of death.
And never forget, the progressive stupid, it burns!
Grimaldus
No - they are not.
They are proxy zionists.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
Nidstyles, Right on Brother, I have never seen anything bad about the russians, even though they exterminated 30 to 40 million of their own people, currently routinely slaughter civilians in the Caucuses and Syria. They supported the ChiComs and North Koreans killing 60 to 100 million and 5 to 10 million of their own peoples, respectively, but they can't say anything good about the US, its intentions or motivations. ZH is obviously ran by America hating leftists who blame America for all of the evil in the world and have a mindset that mimics O'hillarybama.
They lose all credibility by their obvious bias, they never mention the good that America has done for hundreds of years and is the first to respond with the most to any and all disasters with our friends and many times, our enemies. Do these idiots believe that the communist chinese or russians would run a benevolent world if the US backed up and left the world to the evil doers?
What is the BS with NeoCons, that means new conservatives, many of those people have been conservative their whole lives and they do not have a clue what the term means nor what in the hell they are talking about. I have lived and served in many of these war zones, helped many refugees resettle in the US and I am telling you, these guys are clueless. They sit in their offices or moms basement and spew forth BS about things that they have no clue about. Look at the friends of china and russia, they are murderers and evil all. They persecute women, minorities, and incarcerate or murder anyone who disagrees with them. We are not talking about not baking cakes for a gay wedding, we are talking about throwing the gays off of buildings or stoning them to death.
If not for the US, the soviets and their evil allies would be running a world wide gulag with no one to step up and stop them. God bless America and its warriors who stand up to evil around the world and for freedom of speech of all, even America hating, communists loving ZH.
Respectfully, American Warrior
LoL
AW I keep hearing this same shit you say everywhere, our corrupt Government is still better than theirs. Do your homework on who the Bolsheviks exactly were and who backed them (Christian Russia was attacked by foreigners!). Do your homework on who started WW1 and why (It wasn't the Kaiser). The US citizenry has been played by a gang seeking world order and likely plans to walk away once they have used it to obtain the goals.
You don't know what the f&%k you are talking about, go watch the Martian, probably high culture for you.
russia under stalin killed many millions. china under mao ditto. what light is cast on current events by this? less than by the old testament.
it's not so much that it's old history; it's, largely, irrelevant history.
bad actors change over time. currently and for the past fourteen years (you know since when) the bad actors have been, unequivocally, the u.s. and israel.
some (me) would date it from the murder of jfk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsoY3AIRUGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhROd7Jt3-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgM6hjNedE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj_AL4OlmHc&feature=iv&src_vid=rnbMjAN7B...
http://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticl...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVHstSrC1CQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gORu-68SHpE.
23 years of service to my country as well a 6 years U.S. Army officers tells me you are a REMF. Another arm chair "warrior" calling for more blood.
P.S. We are over the right or left false narrative somewhere else.
For anyone wondering what a REMF is, it is military parlance for Rear Echelon Mother F***ker. In the business world, the comparison is the conflict between line & staff.
pachanguero. you served your country for 23 years, which one, as well as 6 years US Army officers, I am not sure what you are trying to say, you attack me as a REMF, another armchair warrior calling for more blood, exactly when did I call for more blood and I said nothing to tell you where I served or what I did. From the first day that I swore in as a 17 year old in 1979, I swore to protect America from all enemies foreign and domestic. I proudly served in the US Army, initially as a paratrooper in Panama and then eventually retired as from 5th SFG(A) with 18E, 18B, 18F MOS's with language qualifiers in Arabic, Spanish, and Farsi. I served in the First Gulf War as a commo operator running a TSEC 99 Van, until the ground war started and then led a REMF team of commo guys and mechanics non SF guys clearing buildings in Northern Saudi Arabia and Southern Iraq and Kuwait around Hafar Al Batin. During war time, there are no mare REMF's anymore the young mechanics and commo guys that I led, had almost no training in combat techniques, but they did well and we captured a great many Iraqis. When you receive rockets and mortars, as well as, suicide bombers, they do not care whether you are mechanic, a clerk, or a trigger puller. A large percentage of the soldiers killed and maimed in the current wars would have once been considered REMF's, but now they are the main targets, since they are considered "soft targets". I am telling you these things to help educate you.
I am proud of my service, whether as a support guy, team leader, country chief, or just an attached medic. I have most of the valor awards that I have received have been for working as an attached medic (actually, I am a Registered Nurse), who volunteered to go out with convoy operations that had no medic.
All who serve, deserve to be recognized and like I said, when the 240mm rockets were coming into the camps in Iraq or the scud missiles in the first gulf war, dead is dead, regardless of the MOS. The worst incident of the gulf war, was when the aircraft hangar full of REMF's was hit with a scud.
On Nov. 2 2003 I went out on an operation to assist with rescue and recovery of men and women shot down (CH 47) in Falujah. Many of them were obviously not infantry guys, but they were just as injured or dead. The civilians that were killed on my convoy just a few hours earlier in the center of Falujah were just as dead, as well. They were prior service EOD guys and just wanted to continue to serve and were killed by an IED.
Obviously, those who attack me, without knowing me or caring to know me, are practiced liars, for they so easily falsely accuse those that they do not know or care to know. I have the pictures, awards, documents, DD-Form 214 to prove who I am what I have done. I deal with the truth and reality, I lived in Iraq with Iraqis for 6 years on the ground during the years 2003-2010 and I know that much of what I read here is not written by people who were there, because it is just plain not true.
I am proud to be an American, I love America and I will spend the rest of my life defending her. I have had 4 sons serve in the Army as well and I am proud of them, as any father should be.
I can't understand the hatred that I read here everyday for America, yes, I have a big problem with Obama, but one day soon he will be gone and God willing we will have a new president who does not hate America. The US is still the light on a hill, as President Reagan, use to say. The greatest country to World has ever known, the greatest force for good and against evil the world has ever known. I can't think of anything positive that the russians have ever done for the world and pretty much the same for china, but you attack America, deny the evil of others, this I can not understand.
God bless America, respectfully, American Warrior
pachanguero. you served your country for 23 years, which one, as well as 6 years US Army officers, I am not sure what you are trying to say, you attack me as a REMF, another armchair warrior calling for more blood, exactly when did I call for more blood and I said nothing to tell you where I served or what I did. From the first day that I swore in as a 17 year old in 1979, I swore to protect America from all enemies foreign and domestic. I proudly served in the US Army, initially as a paratrooper in Panama and then eventually retired as from 5th SFG(A) with 18E, 18B, 18F MOS's with language qualifiers in Arabic, Spanish, and Farsi. I served in the First Gulf War as a commo operator running a TSEC 99 Van, until the ground war started and then led a REMF team of commo guys and mechanics non SF guys clearing buildings in Northern Saudi Arabia and Southern Iraq and Kuwait around Hafar Al Batin. During war time, there are no mare REMF's anymore the young mechanics and commo guys that I led, had almost no training in combat techniques, but they did well and we captured a great many Iraqis. When you receive rockets and mortars, as well as, suicide bombers, they do not care whether you are mechanic, a clerk, or a trigger puller. A large percentage of the soldiers killed and maimed in the current wars would have once been considered REMF's, but now they are the main targets, since they are considered "soft targets". I am telling you these things to help educate you.
I am proud of my service, whether as a support guy, team leader, country chief, or just an attached medic. I have most of the valor awards that I have received have been for working as an attached medic (actually, I am a Registered Nurse), who volunteered to go out with convoy operations that had no medic.
All who serve, deserve to be recognized and like I said, when the 240mm rockets were coming into the camps in Iraq or the scud missiles in the first gulf war, dead is dead, regardless of the MOS. The worst incident of the gulf war, was when the aircraft hangar full of REMF's was hit with a scud.
On Nov. 2 2003 I went out on an operation to assist with rescue and recovery of men and women shot down (CH 47) in Falujah. Many of them were obviously not infantry guys, but they were just as injured or dead. The civilians that were killed on my convoy just a few hours earlier in the center of Falujah were just as dead, as well. They were prior service EOD guys and just wanted to continue to serve and were killed by an IED.
Obviously, those who attack me, without knowing me or caring to know me, are practiced liars, for they so easily falsely accuse those that they do not know or care to know. I have the pictures, awards, documents, DD-Form 214 to prove who I am what I have done. I deal with the truth and reality, I lived in Iraq with Iraqis for 6 years on the ground during the years 2003-2010 and I know that much of what I read here is not written by people who were there, because it is just plain not true.
I am proud to be an American, I love America and I will spend the rest of my life defending her. I have had 4 sons serve in the Army as well and I am proud of them, as any father should be.
I can't understand the hatred that I read here everyday for America, yes, I have a big problem with Obama, but one day soon he will be gone and God willing we will have a new president who does not hate America. The US is still the light on a hill, as President Reagan, use to say. The greatest country to World has ever known, the greatest force for good and against evil the world has ever known. I can't think of anything positive that the russians have ever done for the world and pretty much the same for china, but you attack America, deny the evil of others, this I can not understand.
God bless America, respectfully, American Warrior
The Russians, sarc or not did not exterminate their own people - the Bolsheviks - mostly comprised of Jews and *other minorities* did.
Of course, the Jewish component, sometimes over-stated, is absolutely memory-holed.
Because ti is very important that Jews/Israel/Judaism maintain an image of sacred victimhood and passivity.
The leading role of Jews in the death of millions - *deliberately murdered or starved BECAUSE THEY WERE CHRISTIAN AND RUSSIAN* no more implicates "all Jews" that my government bombing hospitals implicate me..
but - while one can refer to "the russians" or "the iranians" as one wishes, or "the muslims" - it is only when it comes to jews that one must loudly and frequently exclaim that it wasn't "all Jews" and even then - the Brainwashing compels some to DENY THE TRUTH to maintain a myth.
The Old Bolsheviks were as Jewish as the neocons - and they murdered Christians 'as' Jews.
Nidstyles, Right on Brother, I have never seen anything bad about the russians, even though they exterminated 30 to 40 million of their own people, currently routinely slaughter civilians in the Caucuses and Syria. They supported the ChiComs and North Koreans killing 60 to 100 million and 5 to 10 million of their own peoples, respectively, but they can't say anything good about the US, its intentions or motivations. ZH is obviously ran by America hating leftists who blame America for all of the evil in the world and have a mindset that mimics O'hillarybama.
They lose all credibility by their obvious bias, they never mention the good that America has done for hundreds of years and is the first to respond with the most to any and all disasters with our friends and many times, our enemies. Do these idiots believe that the communist chinese or russians would run a benevolent world if the US backed up and left the world to the evil doers?
What is the BS with NeoCons, that means new conservatives, many of those people have been conservative their whole lives and they do not have a clue what the term means nor what in the hell they are talking about. I have lived and served in many of these war zones, helped many refugees resettle in the US and I am telling you, these guys are clueless. They sit in their offices or moms basement and spew forth BS about things that they have no clue about. Look at the friends of china and russia, they are murderers and evil all. They persecute women, minorities, and incarcerate or murder anyone who disagrees with them. We are not talking about not baking cakes for a gay wedding, we are talking about throwing the gays off of buildings or stoning them to death.
If not for the US, the soviets and their evil allies would be running a world wide gulag with no one to step up and stop them. God bless America and its warriors who stand up to evil around the world and for freedom of speech of all, even America hating, communists loving ZH.
Respectfully, American Warrior
you are no more convincing the second time around.
the russian communists/soviets lost power in 1990. putin is much closer to a russian nationalist than whatever communist or soviet once may have meant and even then were misnomers to a follower of karl marx, author of the communist manifesto.
"Look at the friends of china and russia, they are murderers and evil all. They persecute women, minorities, and incarcerate or murder anyone who disagrees with them. We are not talking about not baking cakes for a gay wedding, we are talking about throwing the gays off of buildings or stoning them to death."
there is certainly plenty of blame to go around but who is actually in other countries, uninvited, dropping bombs on and shooting whoever and whatever? not china and not russia. it is the u.s.
as far as stoning gays, i think the allies of the u.s. outnumber the allies of russia and china on that list: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/02/24/here-are-th...
Haha you are from a warrior troll. You are just another mkron muritard basement armchair general asshole. Let that sink in ignorant cunt and learn some facts before spouting your clueless diatribe.
Red eyes at morning, sailor, take warning.
In case of invasion... Pray..
https://youtu.be/EvHgEDURSb0?t=22
Let's cut to the chase.
25 years ago the wall falls and the cold war is over. The US is the world's sole "hyper-power", and the US can make the world look like anything it wants.
Anything.
And this is what happened.
Is this what you foresaw?
Is this what you wanted?
damn good point.
Progressives took over. This is a totaly progressive owned shit show.
The progressive stupid, it burns.
Grimaldus
Have non of you on Zerohedge Read Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper? He is right again. Russia and US did in Fact meet under Polar Ice Caps in Submarine AirLocks to pass each other plans and next Chess Piece Moves. Read or re-read the book its all in there dont be played for fools the Illuminati and the Syndicate are still behind the both sides of what we see in this Script.~ Lord Ariok
it's so much more picturesque under an icecap in a submarine airlock, rather than in a hotel room or a wooded glade.
you would be lord ariok, Daemon Lord of Talovia? that lord ariok?
i certainly hope so.
The governments of Russia and China are comprised of a bunch of self serving thugs. But my sense of them is they would avoid a world war if they could.
On the other hand they must understand by now that the self serving thugs in the West are going to keep pushing until they get their war... knowing that the only way they will get the cooperation of their own peoples is if the illusion is maintained that the Russians and or the Chinese started the fighting.
Since it must be clear to all that war is coming, as the thugs in the West are lunatics, the only reason it has not started as of yet is that those in the East must feel that a delay might bring them some advantage.
Or perhaps they are just hoping, as are most of us, that this madness might somehow yet be avoided.
Good luck with that... this match is set...
All governments are comprised of a bunch of self serving thugs.
FIFY
some more self serving and thuggish than others.
power tends to corrupt and absolute power absolutely.
All empires die because an oligarchy of control freaks gradually assume more and more power.
In their quest for absolute power, oliarchy's become more animal than human, and anyone with an ounce of ability and common sense runs from them.
All oligarchy's die because they run out of minds and ideas
crap
Words. Wow.
Bill kristol would vote for Obama again if he could.
"“He didn’t come to me for help, of course,” Kristol said. “I’m not going to acknowledge that. He came to me to make sure I was supporting his sound policies. Of course, since his sound policies are more like the policies people like me have been advocating for quite a while, I’m happy to support them. He’s a born-again neo-con.”"
These neocons need to be put down before the whole planet is destroyed; Trotskyites, they be; reincarnated from the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 and many times prior to this event of modern times.
They are the most powerful, Power Cult, the planet has even experienced and there have neen many such Cults.
http://verbewarp.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/its-not-economy-stupid-its-econ...
Be so warned - this is an end game
Ho hum
Aquarius, good to see you posting again.
I find what you write most cogent: your humanity is conditional.
Neocons are a different version of Hitlerites / NAZIs substituting geopolitical/economic superiority for racial superiority. Their psychopathic ideology of superiority justified genocide in Iraq, LIbya and anywhere else it will take them.
didnt mention the Kurds - also a problem for NATO's Turkey Partner - the Iranians are going to drive a wedge into this whole show with Kurds carve out given their high level of control in Iraq - something US could never provide given Erdogan- Solemanei had a great plan
The Russians need to partition Iraq into 3 separate countries.
the biden plan with a vengeance.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/12572371/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/bide...
America is slated for complete destruction because of the neocons. In brief, the neocons have already taken civilization to a necessary conclusion given the Dark Side they have manifested from.
The Dark Side by Jane Mayer is a very well written book on the White House George W. Bush Torture Regime. It is a must read for all Americans & Z/Hers.
ZWO'ers one and all.
The nail in the neocon coffin will be the inevitable overthrow of the Saudi regime. If Russia helps the Hashemites of Jordan to reclaim their historical role as rulers of Mecca and Medina, the entire Anglo-Zionist scheme of the past century will finally unravel.
The Hashemites were driven out of Arabia by the British-backed Saudis, and these dignified descendants of Prophet Muhammad have been forced into the humiliating role of Israel's poodle for decades. The Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem is still in theory administered by the Hashemites, and yet they are powerless to stop the Israelis from desecrating the holy site daily. The return of Hasehmites to Arabia will be the death knell of both the Wahhabis and Israel.
Payback is a bitch, and King Abdullah may have just gotten his chance.
Let me see if I can remember how an ancient story goes. An Egyptian slave girl named Hasar and her son Ishmel who Sarah did not want as heir to the king so she sent them out into a the desert. Not wanting to returned to Egypt she lived as a nomad in a place caled Pashar.(modern day Saudi Arabia)
the story goes that for Hasar's suffering the Lord promised that through her son Ishmel would come the rulers of many great nations.
I look at the vastness of the muzzies world today from Nigeria clean to the Phillipines and boy howdy that Lord dude wasn't bullshitting. Ha
Only thing is half of em got it all wrong because They are required to believe every word of the Koran to be a true Muslim. What I see them doing I don;t think they ever even read the book because it firmly states in the Koran that this Jihad and muderous bullshit is against the wishes of their God. So they are not following every word of the Koran and cannot be true Muslims. JMHO, but what do I know Im a Christian.
Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” Qur'an 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind;
The Wahhabi movement is to blame. It represents a complete rejection of traditional Islamic scholarship, especially rules of war that prohibit killing of civilians and oppression of Jews and Christians. The Wahhabis were created by the British as a means of undermining the Ottoman Empire and its claim to lead the Islamic world. With the boon of oil wealth, the Wahhabis have managed to spread their madness worldwide. But they are hated by most Muslims, including the Sunnis they pretend to represent, and their days are coming to an end.
It's interesting that the Wahhabis and the Saudi family are from the Najd, an area of Arabia that was cursed by Prophet Muhammad as the land from which "the horn of the Devil will emerge."
Thank you. I never understood the divisions. Figures the stinkin British would be involved somewhere. They even corrupted some ot the ancient texts of the Vedics and Hindu when in India for their own purposes.
If I remember correctly it was the British who caused this whole shitstorm to begin with. They wanted to get rid of a certain kind of Azzhonazi Jew and decided to just mark out a place in the desert where they came from and send them there. Only problem was there was another people who already lived there and thought this was their place.
A couple of billion bloodsoaked deaths and quadrillions of dollars later with no end in sight.........., brilliant idea.
Looks like only us Americans could ever surpass the British in empire fuck-upism.
what do you expect from an empire that fought not one but two "opium wars" on the side of opium?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars
at least the cia had enough advertising men in it such that they never called them the cocaine wars or the heroin wars, though they were, certainly in part.
let no crisis go to waste.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking
Good read. http://www.examiner.com/article/evils-of-religion-the-cult-of-islam-vers...
Wolfwitz, Perle, and Feith should be charged with treason and Kristol should be living in a van down by the river.
kristol should be floating (face down) in the river..........just sayin..
instead of a war on terror, how bout a WAR ON NEO-CONism.........
only if it's the river styx.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styx
The neo-cons (read: the Zionists) have a lot to answer for, but is it possibe that this guy, Dan Sanchez, really believes the Ministry of Truth fable about 9/11?
"The terrorist attacks by Sunni Islamic fundamentalists mostly from the Saudi Kingdom......"
One shudders to think what must be his level of confusion.
neoCON means the tribe of Jehovah, the god. The Other is the tribe of Dana, the goddess.
Start asking the right NEA defying questions and it all makes sense, in a nonconformist, quasi-morloch imperialist old world mindsense.
What are you going to be for Halloween? For Halloween, I tricked a bunch of old people by telling them stories of how HR really selects monkeys.
Bwahaha ahaha hahahahaaa
are you kidding me? the fbi found their passports in the rubble of the world trade center after the planes fireballed into the buildings.
there was a very damning headscarf, checked i believe it was, found by the fbi in shanksville pa. where the other plane, the one with the heroes on it, crashed into the field, you know, where they built the really thick concrete monument on top of?
i don't know if they found any arab paraphernalia at the pentagon but that was maybe a little different since donald rumsfeld was picking up debris with a garbage bag there (instead of at his desk as secretary of defense). perhaps that's where the jet's engines went.
Yes, finding the Arabs' passports among the rubble was concludive proof for me.
/sarc
No boots just drones
No liberty just the right to consume
No yielding just passivity
Now leave me alone so I can go back to facebook
Another example of a great empire that ends up being run by the kinds of people who are the very opposite of the wise and capable leaders who built it. Hasn't this always been the case in the rise and fall of great empires?
The British and their bankers invested millions of man hours, billions of dollars and devoted their lives to gaining control of the USA. To ask why is a failure of you to understand the game of Monopoly.
they didn't come near as close as the zionists/israelis and i don't think they invested a billion. though they gave a decent bundle to harry truman, who caved to zionist pressure and money when he recognized israel in 1948.
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/01/opposed-religious-fanatical
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116215/was-harry-truman-zionist
Wow! Neocons??? Empire??? WTF???
If the author didn't take himself so seriously, this would be laffable. It reads like the leftists drivel that was typical during the Bush presidency.
Hey! Sanchez! Get your head out of a**. This is 2015 - going on the eigth year with the pro Islamist lefty named ovomit in power. Try another tact; this clearly isn't working . . .
Empire??? What fucking empire. Of all the wars from the 20th century to today that the US has been involved in what empire have we taken??? Yeah, thought so - nada, zilch, bumpkiss.
Oh and that little ditty about the "neocons" going to war because there were WMD in Iraq - we took out of Iraq some 500 tons of yellow cake (psst - where they got it and what they were going to do with it was all about Plamegate - remember?) While you are regurgitating history to suite your narrative do not recall that hundreds of democrap politicians including (ovomit, kerry, clintoon) said there were WMDs in Iraq and bellowed from 1988 until Bush became president that we ought to do something about and do something about Hussein as well.
Sanchez - go peddle your low info reader crap somewhere else.
P.S. And, here is a partial list of the democraps bellowing about WMDs and the murdering tyrant Hussein -BEFORE Bush took office -
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity todevelop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is
our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998. "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass
destruction program." President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998. "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great
deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear,
chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest
security threat we face." Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998. "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times
since 1983." Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18,
1998 "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S.
Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate,
air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the
threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction
programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John
Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998. "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has
made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D,
CA), Dec. 16, 1998. "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
destruction and palaces for his cronies." Madeline Albright, Clinton
Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999. "There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons
programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam
continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a
licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the
United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen.
Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001 "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of
the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of
delivering them." Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002. "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002. "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in
power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002. "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing
weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002. "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident
that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons,
and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and
biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is
seeking nuclear weapons..." Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002. "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority
to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a
deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave
threat to our security." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002. "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons
within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s
underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass
destruction." Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002, "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years,
every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy
his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has
refused to do." Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002. "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also
given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It
is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to
increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep
trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10,
2002 "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity
for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout
question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator,
leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat
because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued
deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the
threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ... Sen. John
F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
The Jew Dollar is "the empire" asshole.
that simple fact is beyond comprehension for most.
like there is a difference worth mentioning between bush and obama, clintons and mccain.
what a load of crap.
nice moniker though. classy.
You can kiss my bump, bumpkiss.
Change your avatar to Iamanasshole.
got a sources on that 500 tons of yellowcake, sweetie?
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/check-msnbcs-palestinian
Let me answer for him.....NO, he does not have any links. At least not any that would lead to a credible source because the yellow cake was 100% made up crap, like so much of the rest of what we were fed to lie us into war..
National Sovereignty is the highest goal of international affairs ... Bush I was right to kick Saddam out of Kuwait ... Bush II was wrong to invade Iraq.
within 10 years many jewish american communities will be surrounded by security systems and 'walls' that are built by El-Bit systems
Lots of Americans are going to be fed up with this bullshit once they (the vast majority of them) lose their jobs which is already happening.
The Amerian middle class is being liquidated.
The Amerian middle class is being liquidated.
I'll fix that for ya >>> The worlds middle class is being liquidated.
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Who is this we?
I am of the lowly class that works and do not think I will stand up and say jack shit while the soft underbelly of the nation rests comfortably on the government teat. Let the thinkers and the costs stand and defy the feds. We have been an after thought for so long it is not our fuckin job to wrest control so that some left or right wing party can swoop in and continue to demolish our lives with whatever noble social order they deem is appropriate. You big shots Duke it out and maybe earn our support instead of constantly trying to bullshit us into the groupthink you want. Also fuck the neocons and the silent left-wing like Hillary. Just too bad this is not going to be a good time for politics as Trump shows clearly. People want to throw them all out. Hopefully someone gets the message in time
"silent left-wing like Hillary"
damn silent.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/23/3663/
Richard Clarke is part of the coverup of 911, not part of exposing the neocons.
14 consecutive years of failure of their foreign policy and wars, and Congress is not capable of calling anyone to account for the policy or the losses.
Our government is not just incompetent, not just corrupt, it is also compromised because it cannot keep secrets.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/07/25/us-federal-government-is-f...
It is far past time to shut this government down and begin anew.
fourteen absolutely consecutive years but the most recent iteration really begins in 1963.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM
Bill Kristol is not a Sith Lord - he's a scared weird little guy from Brooklyn, like the rest of the neoTrots (they're not 'conservative' by the remotest stretch of the imagination: they are part of a Straussian (i.e., Trotskyiste) plan to remake society in an imagined image.
Like all of the neocons, he's a second-rater: he graduated magna cum - an upper Second - and in a bullshit discipline... not summa cum (a First) in a propert technical discipline like a genuinely smart cunt (like me, f'r-instance).
Rather than the top of the hierarchy of tyranny in the Star Wars universe, those looking for a parallel would be better advised to look at the Star Trek: DS9 roster... if Wolfowitz, Dershowitz and Kristol aren't fucking Ferengi (both physically and behaviourally - they are squirmy crooked little cunts), I will resign my position as Mentat-Jedi-Fedaykin-Sardaukar-Ninja of phyle Sarasti.
they are squirmy and crooked but they and others exactly like them wield and have wielded real power of life and death over many, many people, whether or not that jibes with star wars, star trek or dancing with the stars.
The neocons call 20th Century 'the American Century"
And the neocons want to make sure "the 21st century too would be 'American.'"
The neocons have nothing to worry about.
The 21st century is certain to be called "the Unintended Consequences of the American Century."
Great round-up of the neo-cons and their war efforts pushing the Empire of Chaos. Missing, of course, is the neo-con banksters Empire of Debt that are very much at the heart of the total totalitarian American Fascist Empire New World Order.
Oh, one day Justice will be served and they will all swing on the end of a rope.
Put all of the faux tough guy, neocon idiots into uniforms, give them guns and parachute them into the middle of ISIS. Let them show America that the neocons have the balls to actually fight and prevail over real enemy soldiers. Let America see the neocons come home in body bags (hopefully all of them). Let them show the world that they really are not the cowardly wimps that they were in high school.
What sillies!!
The "Galactic Empire" or New World Order
Is a fact of life.
It's not going away.
Sheep don't frighten wolves.
Sheep is the expression used to describe people going about the daily routine of earning a living while psychopaths chisel away at them. At some point, quite suddenly, they smell the threat, and beat those sheep like ploughshares into swords. Those swords are not for frightening the psychopaths you call wolves, they are for removing them by whatever means are necessary.
One thing that is hard to ignore is what you see when you look at a roster of Who's Who in the Neocons. They are almost all Jews!!! This is too extreme to be a coincidence. What part of the Jewish malignancy attracts them to this?
They are a parasite people. Instead of producing something they get inside a powerful organization and take over. They almost made it to world domination with the USSR. A small numbers of Jews (relatively) controlling what could have ruled the planet. That is their dream. That didn't work out, so they abandoned Trotskyism and Communism and started worming their way into the government of America. If America becomes the New World Order, they will rule the world.
Putin is onto them. He kicked out the Jewish oligarchs that had stolen Russia's wealth from drunken Boris. That is why all the Zionist press like the New York Times hates him.
China doesn't have Jews. You can't change your name from Cohen to Chan and blend in. They only allow. Chinese to run their country. Wise.
Ruddia and China are the hope for the world.
You are mistaken in saying China not being under influence of jews. The cultural revolution was managed by jews, the main purpose was to get rid of the ancient chineese traditions, and these events have huge impact till today. Actually, China is the main place where the globalist puppet masters (they are not only jews) are moving right now to rule the world from behind. US has served its purpose, now it's time to move forward. It's been like that for hundreds of years, US folks have hard time to understand that.. which makes it much worse for them.
You're insane. The Cultural Revolution was Mao's last war. He was trying to hang onto power, so he moved everybody that was a threat into the boondocks. Nothing more. After he died, Deng cancelled or reversed all his policiies. "Globalist puppet masters" may have an influence, but they will never succeed in China.
It was not until 1967 that dual citizens were allowed to vote and hold high governmental office. It was a Supreme Court decision infuenced by Abe Fortas, a famous Jewish American Justice appointed by Lyndon Johnson in 1965. He resigned from that lifetime appointment in 1969 rather than face impeachment for financial transactions he was involved in. Just think about how fast our entire goverment, the MIC, Media ownership, and, of course, the Treasury and Central Banks. Less than 50 years, and cosntant warfare & foreign entanglements, along with a financial rape of America. Have a look at the ones just in the House of Representatives. Who do they really work for? Who are they working against?
Educate Yourself
There is no other country in the world that allows members of its national government to be a citizen of two different nations at the same time, except the United States. The dual citizen status can only apply to citizens of Israel, and no other country. This change to US law was made possible by the subversion and betrayal of Jewish Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas, a Johnson appointee, who later had to resign from the Supreme Court. This disastrous change to our immigration law MUST be changed back to no dual citizens allowed to participate in any government office.
House of Representatives:
1. Representative Gary Ackerman (New York)
2. Representative John H. Adler (New Jersey)
3. Representative Shelley Berkley (Nevada)
4. Representative Howard Berman (California)
5. Representative Steve Cohen (Tennessee)
6. Representative Susan Davis (California)
7. Representative Eliot Engel (New York)
8. Representative Bob Filner (California)
9. Representative Barney Frank (Massachusetts)
10. Representative Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
11. Representative Alan Grayson (Florida)
12. Representative Jane Harman (California)
13. Representative Paul Hodes (New Hampshire)
14. Representative Steve Israel (New York)
15. Representative Steve Kagen (Wisconsin)
16. Representative Ronald Klein (Florida)
17. Representative Sander Levin (Michigan)
18. Representative Nita Lowey (New York)
19. Representative Jerry Nadler (New York)
20. Representative Jared Polis (Colorado)
21. Representative Steve Rothman (New Jersey)
22. Representative Jan Schakowsky (Illinois)
23, Representative Adam Schiff (California)
24. Representative Allyson Schwartz (Pennsylvania)
25. Representative Brad Sherman (California)
26. Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
27. Representative Henry Waxman (California)
28. Representative Anthony Weiner (New York)
29. Representative John Yarmuth (Kentucky)
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/dualcitizensushouse25oct14.shtml
Neocons? The whole fucking planet is socialist or communist.
You're a bit of a "dirty dan sanchez", aren't you.
Don't let these mainstream media vermin post their pro-socialist spew here Tyler.
And as for Dems/Repubs, etc, they're all the same fucking poison driving debt to create inflation as deflation continues to ramp.
Sorry to break the news 911 was an inside job. Forget Arabs it was you American Pie.
Fifth column within USA to be more exact. The CFR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OlCVNn9ZeY > Law & Order Clunk Sounds
"Thoreau wrote, "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." Servando Gonzalez didn't waste any time hacking at the branches, and reveals the very crooked roots of evil. This is a most impressive book. A must read."
--G. Edward Griffin, author of The Creature from Jekyll Island
Psychological war, financial terrorism, and your basic Flim-Flam Man run of the mill fleecing on a larger, creatively-oriented and obscured scale, the kind only Big Money can buy
http://www.softpanorama.org/Skeptics/Political_skeptic/Neoliberalism/psy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouq3XwqCWpg CFR - 10 min doc on the 5th column
Neocon (neoconservative) is a meaningless description used by thise who need to remain politically correct, I think you mean zio-con (zionist con artist).
“benevolent global hegemony.”
Of course, the Brits managed this sort of thing admirably. They did it by being gentlemen.
Which is something the Americans aren't...
Some of their former colonies might disagree with that gentlemanly assessment.
"I say, wut, wut?"
Ok Dan, good article. Just one thing. Is there anything else that Kristol, Wolfowitz, Feith, Wurmser, Abrams, Kagan, Perle, Ledeen, Krauthammer and all the rest have in common that you neglected to mention?
The neocons are nothing more than the anal retentive power freaks that had been part of our species since the dawn of civilization. They are driven by their quest to manipulate every aspect of their surroundings and they justify their madness with a simple edict. The needs of the many outweigh the interests of the few. That simple slogan enlists the charitable nature that exists within the normal person and causes them to sign on to some grandiose agenda that winds up killing millions. Mao was a liberal. Hitler was a conservative. The political leanings matter little to the statist. Whatever the dogma they choose to ride to power, it ends up with many finding themselves on their knees with a gun to the backs of their heads.
It never was or is about the people. It is about control.
Go to your county Clerk’s office. Print the list of Republican in your area.
When the lights go out, EMP or missile attack, take care of them.
Regular Germans had the chance to handle Merkel supporters under the cover of Muslim Aggression. They jacked-off while Merkel and her supporters filled their backyards with foreigners.
Good luck getting them out now.
Tosoft, you are still blinded by your political affiliation. Just a cursory review puts blood on both parties’ hands. The Civil War was brought in its final stages against the slave holding Democrats by the federalists Republicans. Then, the Democrats guided us into the Spanish American War, WWI, WW II, and Vietnam. The Republicans sent us off to Lebanon. The Democrats sent us to Somalia. Then the Republicans got us in Iraq and Afghanistan and now the Democrats are droning funerals and wedding parties with a president that boasts that he is very good at killing people.
Sorry but both parties are enablers of empire and both are operating under the grand delusion that they understand a system that has infinitesimal small parts and is by its very nature organic. As a case in point, everybody is enamored by the promise and the short presidency of Kennedy. They simply overlook or do not know about the slaughter of Operation Phoenix. How many school teachers, doctors and local bureaucrats did we murder to prevent the communists from taking over South Vietnam to absolutely no avail? When Saigon fell the world did not end. We squandered a generation. We killed hundreds of thousands. We damaged the gnome of a population. Then, we simply changed our focus and went on to the next war.
We have built a massive military, industrial, bureaucratic system that is a veracious consumer of resources and people. We are at the end of growth. There is no political solution to what is essentially a resource and population problem short of the pain and suffering brought on by an inevitable contraction.
It is easy to delude yourself that it is necessary to break a few eggs to make an omelet. The real truth is that both parties are about power and the control of resources. At the end of the game, the Democrats and the Republicans wind up in the same box.
In light of last night's CNBS fiasco, I thought this slice was poignant:
And now that wildly popular wild card Donald Trump is spouting unwelcome common sense to his legions of followers about how standing back and letting Russia bomb anti-American terrorists is better than starting World War III over it. And this is on top of the fact that Trump is deflating Jeb Bush’s campaign by throwing shade at his brother’s neocon legacy, from the failures over 9/11 to the disastrous decision to regime change Iraq. And the neocon-owned Marco Rubio, who actually adopted “A New American Century” as his campaign slogan, is similarly making no headway against Trump.
Yeah, and who is the media trumpeting as the "winner" of the debate? Marco Rubio (I think his real name may be Rubin.)
How convenient for the CNBS shills to give most of the air time to Rubio and very little (I think they were sixth and ninth, respectively, to the two front-runners, Carson and Trump). The deceit is thick and, as usual, the American public will passively go along. I presnt to you the next president, Marco Rubio, who will be hailed as the "first Hispanic" president.
Tool of the neo-cons, so get ready for four (or eight) more years of bullshit. It's either hm or Hillary. As usual, no choice.
Now, get back to work, serfs!
All of them neo-cons are jews. I believed that all jews were good people except for a few lawyers. Could I have been mistaken?
All wars are Bankster wars. Everything flows from that.
'All wars are Bankster wars. '
No - they are not. Religion and nationalism have been major motives for millenia.
While bankers [and war profiteers] certainly have a major, even predominant role in wars of the past century or more... to claim that "all wars" "are" "banker's wars" is far too facile to withstand serious historical inquiry.
For example, the jihadist hoping to meet Allah, or the Jewish settler happy to burn down Palestinian homes - they and those like them are not motivated by money, or even competition for resources [itself more primordial and basic to war than "banks"] - they are motivated by hate engendered by myths engendered by idiots and madmen.
Either you control what happens in the world, or what happens in the world controls you. Not sure if that statement makes me a neocon, but there's plenty of examples to back it up.
Mick there is nothing wrong with making a plan. The bigger the plan the more out phase with reality it becomes. How many Egyptian lives were spent building tourist attractions? I cannot guarantee that I will be alive in the next eight minutes. I am one heartbeat away from the great sleep. My friend so are you. Make all the grand designs you will, but realize your assumption that you control anything right down to your own heartbeat is a delusion.
Here's a quiz for you all . . .
What do guys like Kristol, Kagan, Feith, Perle, Wolfowitz, Abrams, Ledeen, Krauthammer and Wurmser all have in common (beside being complete assholes)??
The answer to that question is actually the root of the neo-con problem . . . . .
Pretty much everyone in the Middle East, aside from the House of Saud, are figuring out that continued US interference in the Middle East is in nobody's interest, save that of the House of Saud, a few thousand Wall Street bankers, and preferred defense contractors.
Even Israel, who can take care of herself, will sooner or later realize Uncle Sugar is no friend of the Jews and will finally join the party of freedom under Vladimir Putin. Once the House of Saud are driven from Riyadh by Russian and Iranian cavalry, all the Islamofascists will make a big show of renouncing violence so fast your head will spin. There will be peace in the Middle East for a generation, with even the Palis' idea of jihad reduced to the occasional swastika or "random" stabbing of Jews (nothing authorizing Jews to concealed- or open-carry couldn't deter).
So there's hope. Just not for Uncle Sugar's long-suffering tax-peons.
The Soviet Union threw in the towel as peacefully as it did because it ran out of other people's money. Our masters had concluded that their social engineering experiment in Russia had become far more trouble than it was still worth as a potential model for the post-liberty world and cut off its access to Fed-confetti.
Our masters, who control the prodution of Fed-confetti, aren't going anywhere short of a catastrophe that is likely to send most of the rest of us to hell with our masters.
Anybody dreaming of violent regime change or secession in the States can forget it. The bad guys have nukes. Don't think DC wouldn't have nuked Little Rock long before Leningrad---Free Arkansas couldn't have responded in kind. Don't think Queen Hillary wouldn't cheerfully push the button.
(Those nukes were never intended for targets in any country where the natives could shoot back, in Russia or anywhere else.)
Can't use nukes against a rebellion. Besides, they don't really have the kind of control a lot of people seem to assume. It's an illusion, and it's crumbling day by day.
They always tear themselves apart. Oligarchies never last.
"My God, General! She's targeted all the Red States!"
Uncle Sugar is no friend of the Jews, huh?
Even after Iraq, after World War 1 - after hundreds of billions - after all the diplomatic cover.
You have previously written batshit crazy things which suggest, despite your Gaelic name, that you're some sort of Messianic Jew - or some form of crypto zionist nut.
The sort of guy who wants people to believe that "our masters" are Jesuits, or space lizards - anything but the ethnoreligious group right in front of our eyes, whose "elite" are in fact a major part of "the NWO".
In any event, please consider that you are in fact, a fucking idiot.
Israel has been a parasite on the US for decades.
And Israel can not "take care of itself" It intends more wars of conquests, on the sort of absurd pretext Islamophobes like you get all in a tizzy about - it depends on absolutely MASSIVE infusions of outside cash and weapons and tech, and has survived by in essence having access to oil stolen from Iranians or Kurds or subsidized by Uncle Scam.
If you think Iran and Russia are going to send "the cavalry" into S.A. you are dumber than I thought.
Your stupidity is so complex, so to speak, I wonder if you are autistic, or suffered some kind of anoxia in the past.
You're not Irish, sometimes sound reasonable, but overall your posts indicate someone who believes in some form of fairy tale in which you subscribe in some part to the very myths that are in large part destroying the world.
It's the dawn of a new age, friend - if we can live to see it.
No place for your Judeosupremacism or bibliomancy *there*.
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2013/06/the-machiavelian-threefold-game-of-the-...
^this is an excellent summary of the origins and beliefs of the 'neocons'. I think Dan borrowed from it in part.
See some people caught in the L/R divide objecting to 'neocon' and supplying wholly irrelevant, ahistorical arguments.
The better term would be 5th Column Zionists.
Consider this - most everyone Sanchez lists is a Zionist Jew and Israel Firster. Well, why cant he say it?
Why cant he simply SAY that the neocon movement was 'liberal' Jews who decided to become militarists - AND TO USE AMERICA AS SWORD AND SHIELD FOR THE JEWISH STATE?
I mean this isnt a conspiracy theory, it is recent and well documented history.
Is it because people will shout 'anti-Semite'?
Yes - but in cases where one has merely spoken THE TRUTH it is important to not concede the argument to people who either think Israel/Jews are above criticism, or who are merely conditioned to see ANY RECITATION OF FACTS that do not paint Israel/Jews as passive/innocent/sacred victims, but as deceptive/warmongering/disloyal as 'hate.'
Both positions are absurd. Both stifle intellectual discussion for the sake of people like Perle and Kristol - chickenhawk warmongers and Israel Firster Zio Jews who want Americans to pay in blood and gold NOT JUST to defend Israel qua Jewish State, but to help it murder hundreds of thousands to become regional hegemon. That's PNAC, and update of the Oded Yinon Plan.
The link above goes into more detail about the duplicity and dishonesty of these men when writing for an Israeli, then American audience.
also see "The Lie Factory" (Mother Jones article) re the Office of Special Plans. That office was set up to "find" evidence to justify the Iraq war the Ziocons long wanted.
And it was staffed with Zionist Jews.
Most autojunkers wont have read this far. Some genuinely see the above as 'hate' and are not worried about conflating facts with 'hate' because at the end of the day, its their country or tribe, right or wrong.
But - fuck that. Flag waving warmongers and speech police are intolerable when they defend America's actions reflexively, and they are even more odious when demanding everyone never speak ill of a tiny foreign state which meddles ceaselessly in our affairs, and brutally occupies another people - on our dime.
I Dont blame Sanchez for avoiding the J word. People are too obtuse to grasp that "most A are B" does not imply the reverse.
That the neocons were mainly Israel Firster Zionist Jews who wanted to warp the foreign policy of the US, 97.5% non Jewish (and a military closer to 99.9% non-Jewish) for Israels Jews and quest to remake the m.e. In blood is BEYOND DOUBT.
This does not mean "the Jews" are neocons - most are not although most have not been too vocal in opposing them either.
Not being able to say 2+2 = 4 for fear of offending the stupid, the dishonest, and/or the disloyal - is ultimately very dangerous, Mr Sanchez.
The neocons crave decades of war. If exposing them means being called an 'anti-semite' by people who want to shield them from criticism, so be it.
In fact, lets start talking more and more about the use of this tactic to enable Israeli war crimes, and wildly disproportionate Jewish and Zionist power.
There are consequences for cowardice.
Over a million so far.
Great post
One of the best posts I'd say. Right up with the airborne condoms (I'm still LOL on that one). I've noticed that when something can't be "named" it is always a ruse perpetrated by the rulers to frighten the sheople and keep the rulers in power. The sin is just saying the name, or looking into the face, will get you wacked. Why was god’s name unspeakable by the common man for so many centuries?
+100
You said what needs to be said. "To understand who rules over you, ask who cannot be criticized" Voltaire
No doubt.
Who can get rid of the neocons? Hillary is already bought. Much as I hate the bastard, Trump at least has a fighting chance of facing down these Mockis, based on his long confrontation with them in the real estate business.