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Nigel Farage Rages At Modern Day "Brezhnev Doctrine" In Portugal's Democracy Crisis
Nigel Farage unleashes another of his must-watch rage-fests aimed at the collapse of democracy in Europe. Amid the stunning "democracy crisis" in Portugal, where, as we detailed here, the government has lost its majority but the anti-EU opposition is being prevented from attempting to form a coalition, Farage fumes "this is the modern day implementation of the Brezhnev Doctrine. This is exactly what happened to states living inside the USSR."
One of his best...
Transcript... (via Order-Order.com),
“This is the modern day implementation of the Brezhnev Doctrine. This is exactly what happened to states living inside the USSR . What is being made clear here with Greece and indeed with Portugal is that a country only has democratic rights if it’s in favour of the [European] project. If not, those rights are taken away.
And perhaps none of this should surprises us as Mr. Juncker has told us before: there can be no democratic choice against the European treaties.
And the German Finance Minister, Mr. Schäuble, has said: elections change nothing – there are rules.
I think for anyone that believes in democracy, Portugal should be the final straw. It should be the warning that this project, [in order to] to protect itself and all its failings, will destroy the individual rights of peoples and of nations. My country has always believed in parliamentary democracy so strongly that twice in the last century it risked everything to fight for parliamentary democracy, not just for Britain but for the rest of Europe too. And I actually believe that for all of us that believe in democracy and want to see it reimplemented, the British referendum offers a golden opportunity.”
The opposition in Portugal might be socialists, but the country is effectively suspending democracy to prevent Eurosceptics with a massive electoral mandate from taking power.
As we concluded previously, note what's happened here. The will of the people is now being characterized as a "false signal" to "financial institutions, investors, and markets."
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The EU is the USSR 2.0. No democracy, no freedom, government by unelected officials and bureaucrats, all controlled by banksters. Welcome to the New World Order.
Farage is right - I'm voting to get the hell out in the EU Referendum.
Farage is always right.
The EU is the new Soviet Union, the only difference is the domestic espionage is better now, people self-censor, and due to private property laws, the EU has money, well the northern part of it does at least.
With any luck the EU will tear itself apart due to this refugee crisis.
Refugee crisis is just the tip of the iceberg. There are ten different reasons the EU will eventually fall apart.
But, but, ... the EU needs to hang together to fight global warming.
keep that zealotry in the US, please. even european nature lovers that hug two trees before breakfast like me are appalled by how bigot that faction of yours has become. Push Big Oil out of the picture and then those guys, too
Say it ain't so Ghordo -- you don't vote for die Grüne do you?
The EU is only doing to its member states now what the US federal government has done to its states over the last 100 years. Usurping their individual sovereignty and imposing its agenda and control unilaterally.
fEUdal
more like the united states of europe
it too is like hotel california
you can check in, but never leave
The same for the Canadian government with its provinces. Confederation my a... Seems we are all in the same Western boat.
Watch the collapse of the EU health system from treating the inbreds.
http://www.gfmer.ch/Medical_genetics_education_research/pdf/Consanguineous_marriages_Hamamy_2009.pdf
Genetic referrals of Middle Eastern origin in a western city: inbreeding and disease profile.
"Farage is always right." LOL
I have two words that describe the Right Honourable Mr. Nigel Farage, Fellow of the City of London with the right to drive sheep over the London Bridge and MEP
populist weasel
First, he is again mixing matters that are purely national - in this case Portugal - with matters that belong to the org called EU
Second, in the case of Portugal, he is a damn lying weasel that exploits typical British (and American) ignorance about how most european continental republics have shaped their constitutions
which, in the case of Brits, it's easy. their constitution has never been written, so it's really too much to expect them to read any constitution
here, cut and paste from the last ZH article about the Portuguese political (not constitutional) crisis:
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the specifics of this election and this parliament are this: one party got 107 seats, another 86, another 19, another 17 and another 1
a majority would be 116 votes out of a total of 230
the Portuguese President asked the leader of the one party that won 107 seats to form a government, to be approved or not by the Portuguese Parliament
further, "The President of Portugal has the power to dissolve the Assembly of the Republic by his own will. Unlike other countries the President can refuse to dissolve the parliament at the request of the Prime Minister or the Assembly of the Republic and all the parties represented in Parliament. If the Prime Minister resigns, the President must nominate a new Prime Minister after listening to all the parties represented in Parliament and then the nominee must be confirmed by the Assembly of the Republic. "
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_legislative_election,_2015
meaning, so far, that the President of Portugal is doing politics... within his constitutional mandate, and even following what could be seen as blind respect of precedent, i.e. by asking the party that is incumbent and the party that won most votes to have a first go at government formation
if the Left parties wanted to be that sure to be asked first, they would have to form one list, not two
further, this purely Portuguese internal matter has literally nothing to do with the EU. And the Portuguese constitution is quite similar to something like 20+ other republics in Europe, with the exception of the presidential republics of France and Romania and the... Grand Exception that is the UK
His point was that the Leftist government is not being allowed to attempt to form a coalition because the Conservatives cannot with 107. The reason the President of Portugal will not allow the Leftists to form a government is exclusively due to EU & Euro membership.
I think you are a bit naive if you think the EU is hands off of political decisions at a national level. While the EU might not actually have the authority to do something, it can exert pressure on individuals in other ways. Look for example at the response to the Eastern Block & refugees. They don't want to take them, and the EU (or leaders who represent the quasi-political establishment that EU is) threatens to suspend funding.
The reason you don't like Farage is because he, representing a significant percentage of the English public (lets be honest he has no support in Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland) doesn't support your little project. If he was a supporter, I suspect you would find him much more palatable.
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The conservative government in Portugal cannot govern with 107 members in Parliament. The triple Left coalition could with 122.
his point is completely moot, and as often very insulting. so what? of course there will be a coalition. but it would not be the first time that exactly this happens, the biggest is asked first, and it finds rebels among the other lists. And that's why the Portuguese Left, and so the whole european Left is shrieking (and Farage, the wiesel, but that's for his own internal purposes)
the only question is: is the Prez handling the matter (so far) according to the Constitution (and precedent, if you really must)? and the answer is a resounding YES
"If he was a supporter, I suspect you would find him much more palatable" counterquestion: would you? if yes, I'm really sorry for you
He is acting within his powers. Unlike many other "heads of state" he actually does have power, and this is one of his. Is he acting within his powers -- sure. If he acting in the best interest of the state -- another question all-together.
No, if Farage was an EU supporter I would likely have mixed emotions about him, similar to Seehofer, for example. Some stuff I agree with, other stuff I don't.
I've told you Ghordo, over and over again -- I will take any position, support any candidate, whether they be Commies, Socialists, Nazis, or the Russians -- I don't care -- I will support absolutely anyone whom either are forthcoming about their desire to destroy/leave the union, or someone whose policies would bring about the end of the European Union. I am very consistent in this regard.
(This is, for example why I am a huge supporter of the Refugee Quota System. "Oh yes Juncker -- you ship those 110,000 immigrants to Poland. Do that. For the good of the European Union -- sfucking do it.")
Its always fun to talk politics with my Schwiegervater, as he was amazed me as an American could go from defending Putin, to defending the Commies in Greece, to defending UKIP, to support Law & Justice and back again. Once I explained how I chose my position in European politics, he has often found it interesting to pick my brain. Its been interesting to watch him, a former member of the SED, to being a SPD member for something like 20 years, to being a Grüne voter for the past few years -- to defending the AfD. Nothing makes my heart happier that the rise of the Anti-European movement.
What is especially interesting, is both Left & Right in Europe are solidly against the EU and the Euro -- for different reasons, but both are against it. The middle is corrupt, and is politically supporting the project, often times at their own domestic political expense (PASOK comes to mind). Next time there is a big economic calamity -- and everyone gets wiped out again -- both the Left & the Right will blame the EU, if for no other reason than it is convenient and easy to do. I've said it once, and I'll say it again -- as soon as one country leaves -- including the UK -- the rest will unravel rather quickly.
Thank God
Wait, us-Targaryen, what about the Ukraine?
The UK cannot get out of the EU. You, guys, all of you have to support Ukraine for another 100 years.
shish...
https://twitter.com/ScottsHumor
Its why I support the East -- and nothing would make the EU happier than enlarging itself once again. An empire must continuously expand until it can't at which point it begins to collapse.
I like Farage as a useful jester, but you're clearly correct here about Portugal.
However, it's clear that the EU has brought in many countries with very unstable democracies and political traditions (Greece, Portugal, Czech, Slovakia, even Spain and a few others). Somehow the EU is supposed to provide a great incubator for these emerging democracies.
Instead, the EU by design is profoundly undemocratic. So now the Euro elites are faced with the the contradiction of democracy contending with centralized authoritarianism and elitism. Farage merely points this out, his shortcomings notwithstanding.
Captain, you have, so far, brought only excellent comments, so I have to ask you a bit more details about this "the EU by design is profoundly undemocratic"
This is Gough Whitlam 2.0 in progress. It's weird that you are so opposed to what Farage is saying.
Plus one thousand for the Gough Whitlam reference....
Man, govt is so complicated. The people's rights are in all those hands, exposed to corrupt politics at every step.
I just kept thinking while reading your comment two things. 1) the people would be so much better off with at least 90% less structure that's full of psychopaths everywhere, and 2) just because the Constitution says something is within the power of the president doesn't mean it is proper to evoke.
The Constitution is most likely wrongly written, written by politicians and elites, and sold to the public decades ago as a great deal.
The Force is not with you
"The EU is the new Soviet Union, the only difference is the domestic espionage is better now... "
are you hinting at the fact that the EU org has been spied upon by the NSA and a few others or are you hinting at the fact that the EU org has no intelligence services?
EU, NATO, Gladio, Five-Eyes- what's the difference Ghordius?
Are you being serious right now? Or do you really not see how the same hand puppetmasters all those institutions?
I am hinting at the fact that the NSA spies on everyone and hands out the info to various governments if it suits their purposes.
This refugee crisis is what they want.
Read this article from the BBC, it's shocking.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18519395
The EU should "do its best to undermine" the "homogeneity" of its member states, the UN's special representative for migration has said.
Peter Sutherland told peers the future prosperity of many EU states depended on them becoming multicultural.
He also suggested the UK government's immigration policy had no basis in international law.
He was being quizzed by the Lords EU home affairs sub-committee which is investigating global migration.
Mr Sutherland, who is non-executive chairman of Goldman Sachs International and a former chairman of oil giant BP, heads the Global Forum on Migration and Development , which brings together representatives of 160 nations to share policy ideas.
He told the House of Lords committee migration was a "crucial dynamic for economic growth" in some EU nations "however difficult it may be to explain this to the citizens of those states".
Your second link says 'Page not found' but here's more on Peter Sutherland, UN Special Representative for Migration who is referred to as the 'Father of Globalism'
Globalist social engineers at work...
http://www.un.org/press/en/2006/sga976.doc.htm
United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan is delighted to announce that Peter Sutherland has agreed to act as his Special Representative to assist in the preparation of the high-level dialogue on international migration and development, to be held by the General Assembly in September [2006]
Mr. Sutherland said today: “Migration can be an enormous force for good: one of the great drivers of economic growth, individual liberty and personal prosperity. As such, I am delighted to undertake this assignment for Kofi Annan. The goal is to maximise the benefits of migration and minimise potentially negative impacts.”
http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2015/mar/31/un-official-eu...
The European Commission is to produce new policy blueprints on migration by May amid a growing realisation that radical action is needed to tackle the humanitarian tragedy that sees thousands of migrants drown each year in the Mediterranean.
Sutherland has been working to get migration into the sustainable development goals (SDGs) that are being drafted now to guide development priorities until 2030. He said there might be some opposition, but he expected the issue to be referred to in a significant way.
The EU can't wait to welcome the Migrants with open arms!! Much like Obama is doing, the EU will grant them citizenship in a member country and they will forever be a EuroProject supporter! How could they be anything otherwise?? Look at all the EU will do for them!! Better than dying in Syria or wherever the fuck.
The referendum will never be permitted to take place.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
You might want to stick around and make sure your vote is actually counted... properly.
Don't forget the USSA
If it were as Russia as you say, we would not have these EU cowards rulers who obey the US diktat and would have a leader whos approval rate would be 89.9% and not these miserable poll numbers that we know our crapy politicians have.
The ESSU is just a wing of the USSA.
Furthermore, you must realize that there is a significant difference between how the communists came to power in the USSR versus the ESSU/USSA. The first was at the point of a gun. The other was through controlling finance, monetary policy, media, massive voter fraud and bribery. The currect crop of commies are much more refined in the delicate arts of manufacturing political consent to forcible rape. This is why elections are close in the west. Sometimes they mess up (see video above for a list) and then they just ignore the winners and continue on with the status quo anyway.
It is pretty much clear as day when you examine the plank in your own eye (the west) instead of the one in your neighbor's eye (Russia).
Latina Lover wrote: "The EU is the USSR 2.0. No democracy, no freedom, government by unelected officials and bureaucrats, all controlled by banksters. Welcome to the New World Order. "
no democracy? see elected EU Parliament
no freedom? see the Four Freedoms of the EU
unelected officials and bureaucrats? ah, that one is still around, I see. lol
see Juncker vs Cameron, for example:
only one body (can appoint to PM or) junk Cameron, and that one is the elected Westminster Parliament of the UK. if you want to vote for Cameron, you have to live in his tiny little village of 40'000 souls. And that's how our systems work, aka parliamentary
Juncker (and his merry band of partypoopers(, on the other side, can be (appointed or) junked by two bodies: the EU Parliament and the EU Council. You know, where Cameron, Merkel etc. sit
so actually Junker could be seen as the most accountable of all european politicians, with 28 governments that even have intelligence services to check on him, and 29 parliaments to inquire on him
controlled by banksters? which ones? those who got their bonuses curtailed by law... or those in NY and the City of London?
so Ghordius, are these countries free to leave the EU?
I suppose four freedoms is all the EU could muster....
I will agree with you on this, the Bankers that control this NWO are based in NY and London.
but the bonuses that were curtailed will not effect the "money" that flows to the hands of those who own these Banks, nor their cronies in the EU.
brussels is the capital of the united states of europe
it is an outpost of frbny
yes, Tarzan, they are free to leave the EU. this kind of discussion always hinges on the fact that it's a club of countries, not individuals
and in order to take one country in or out of them, you need a national consensus
France left NATO, once. Imagine the ZH articles on that if this would happen today. or the day before a vote: "NATO will never let France exit"
Policy is being enforced as if it were law, so no representation is present for the EU population. The people that write the policy are not elected. A member of parliament is replaced but the Bureaucracy remains the same. This problem is the same through out the world. The common phrase is "The bureaucracy needs more Bureaucracy" and the people get left in the dust.
Control freaks finally being called out for what they are. Can't keep the people down forever eh?
Bankers don't need bonuses, they have the window, unlimited access to capital (for now), and the ability to hold continents hostage. Laws are punchlines to them.
You would help your argument by stating which EU officials are unelected by the public, instead of stating a couple titles that are elected. If you can.
And if a member country of the EU, say, rejects a new treaty version, what then? It's assumed a faulty election and held again and again under political pressure until they get right result? Pretty messed up, bro.
If a member country votes in a referendum to not refinance their debt, the squeeze is applied, and that's just gravy, their fault, the EU is starving countries and herding people's into refugee camps, nothing to see here, the EU is in perfect shape, the EU respects individual, member, and human rights, the EU political process is fine.
Ghordius,
Who elected the ECB? Everything else is bullshit if you don't control your own fiscal/monetary policies.
Democracy is dead.
And the bitch Merkel is their main tool! Remember who came out and proclaimed "Germany will take all migrants", and then demanded the EU quota system where Lativa, Estonia, Slovinia, Poland, Hungary, and others would be forced to accept forced resettlement of Islamic hords from Africa and the Middle East.
Merkel, the former STASI Agent, and now well know American CIA asset, opens Europes borders and then makes demands for all other EU nations to adopt Germany's "open borders".
Merkel is a classic "deep state" asset. The new world order has built up a tool box of politicians like her, always willing to get out front of the new world orders agenda.
Forgive the following edited article from Russia Insider. I edited out some things to streamline it. But it is very long, and I have never "cut and pasted" something this long. I beg for those interested in the New World Order to copy this and read it.
Alexander Zinoviev was exiled from the Soviet Union with his wife and daughter on 6th August 1978, principally on account of his writings on the nature of Soviet communism. They spent the next twenty years based in Munich. On 30th July 1999 they returned to Moscow, principally on account of his writings on the West. Zinoviev died in 2006 and his remains are buried in the Novodeviche convent. Interviewed in the 1990's for this!
Patriotism does not concern me. I received an international upbringing and I remain loyal to it. I cannot even say whether I love Russians and Russia or not. I am part of them. Today’s suffering of my people is so horrible that I cannot stand watching them from afar. The barbarity of globalization manifests itself in many diverse, unacceptable ways.
During the Cold War, democracy was a weapon in the fight against communist totalitarianism. Today we understand that the Cold War era was the history of the West’s apogee. During that time the West had it all: unprecedented growth of wealth, true freedom, incredible social progress, colossal scientific and technological achievements. But at the same time the West was imperceptibly changing. The timid integration of developed countries launched at that time has developed into the internationalization of the economy and the globalization of power that we are witnessing now. Integration may help the growth of common good and have a positive impact if it is driven by the legitimate aspiration of fraternal people to unite, for example. But the integration in question was conceived from the beginning as a vertical structure strictly controlled by a supranational power. Without a successful Russian counter-revolution against the Soviet Union, the West could not have started the process of globalization.
I look at things from a slightly different angle. Contrary to common belief, Soviet communism did not collapse because of internal reasons. Its collapse is certainly the greatest victory in the history of the West. An unheard of victory which, let me say it again, can establish a unitary power monopoly on a planetary scale. The end of communism also signalized the end of democracy. The modern epoch is not only post-communist, it is also post-democratic! Today we are witnessing the establishment of democratic totalitarianism, or, if you will, totalitarian democracy.
Not at all. Democracy requires pluralism and pluralism implies an existence of at least two more or less equal forces which oppose each other and at the same time influence each other. During the Cold War there was world democracy, global pluralism, with two opposing systems: capitalist and communist, plus other countries with an amorphous system which belonged to neither. Soviet totalitarianism was sensitive to Western criticism. In turn, the Soviet Union influenced the West, in particular through the latter’s own communist parties. Today we live in a world dominated by one single force, one ideology and one pro-globalization party. All of this together began to take shape during the Cold War, when superstructures gradually appeared in various forms: commercial, banking, political and media organizations. Despite their different fields of activity, what they had in common was essentially their transnational scope. With the collapse of communism they began to rule the world. Thus, Western countries ended up in the dominant position, but at the same time they are now in a subordinate position as they gradually lose their sovereignty to what I call the supra-society. The planet-wide supra-society consists of commercial and non-commercial organizations whose influence extends far beyond individual states. Like other countries, the Western countries are subordinated to these supranational structures. This is despite the fact that the sovereignty of states was also an integral part of pluralism and hence of democracy on a global scale. Today’s ruling supra-power suppresses sovereign states. The European integration unfolding in front of our very eyes is also leading to the disappearance of pluralism within this new conglomerate in favor of supranational power.
Western countries got to know true democracy during the Cold War. Political parties had genuine ideological differences and different political programs. The media also differed from each other. All this had an impact on the lives of ordinary people contributing to the growth of their wealth. Now this has come to an end. A democratic and prosperous capitalism with socially oriented laws and job security was in many ways thanks to a fear of communism. After the fall of communism in Eastern Europe, a massive attack on the social rights of citizens was launched in the West. Today the socialists who are in power in most European countries are pursuing policies of dismantling the social security system, destroying everything that was socialist in the capitalist countries. There is no longer a political force in the West capable of protecting ordinary citizens. The existence of political parties is a mere formality. They will differ less and less as time goes on. The war in the Balkans was anything but democratic. Nevertheless, the war was perpetrated by the socialists who historically have been against these kinds of ventures. Environmentalists, who are in power in some countries, welcomed the environmental catastrophe caused by the NATO bombings. They even dared to claim that bombs containing depleted uranium are not dangerous for the environment, even though soldiers loading them wear special protective overalls. Thus, democracy is gradually disappearing from the social structure of the West. Totalitarianism is spreading everywhere because the supranational structure imposes its laws on individual states. This undemocratic superstructure gives orders, imposes sanctions, organizes embargos, drops bombs, causes hunger. Even Clinton obeys it. Financial totalitarianism has subjugated political power. Emotions and compassion are alien to cold financial totalitarianism. Compared with financial dictatorship, political dictatorship is humane. Resistance was possible inside the most brutal dictatorships. Rebellion against banks is impossible.
What about a revolution?
A: Democratic totalitarianism and financial dictatorship rule out the possibility of social revolution.
Q: Why?
A: Because they combine omnipotent military power with a financial stranglehold. All revolutions received support from outside. From now on this is impossible because there are no sovereign states, nor will there be. Moreover, at the lowest level the working class has been replaced with the unemployed class. What do the unemployed want? Jobs. Therefore, they are in a less advantageous position than the working class of the past.
The most influential Western thinkers and politicians believe that we have entered the post-ideological epoch. This is because by “ideology” they mean communism, fascism, nazism, etc. In reality, the ideology, the super-ideology of the Western world, developed over the last fifty years is much stronger than communism or national socialism. A western citizen is being brainwashed much more than a soviet citizen ever was during the era of communist propaganda. In ideology, the main thing is not the ideas, but rather the mechanisms of their distribution. The might of the Western media, for example, is incomparably greater than that of the propaganda mechanisms of the Vatican when it was at the zenith of its power. And it is not only the cinema, literature, philosophy - all the levers of influence and mechanisms used in the promulgation of culture, in its broadest sense, work in this direction. At the slightest impulse all who work in this area respond with such consistency that it is hard not to think that all orders come from a single source of power. It was enough to decide to stigmatize General Karadži? or President Miloševi? or someone else for the whole planetary propaganda machine to start working against them. As a result, instead of condemning politicians and NATO generals for violation of all existing laws, the vast majority of Western citizens is convinced that the war against Serbia was necessary and just. Western ideology combines and mixes ideas based on its needs. One of these ideas is that Western values and lifestyle are the best in the world! Although for most people on the planet these values have disastrous consequences. Try to convince Americans that these values will destroy Russia. You will not be able to. They will continue to assert the thesis of universalism of Western values, therefore following one of the fundamental principles of ideological dogmatism. Theorists, politicians and media of the West are absolutely sure that their system is the best. That is why they impose it around the world without a doubt and with a clear conscience. Western man as the carrier of these highest values is therefore a new superman. The term itself is a taboo, but It all comes down to this. This phenomenon should be studied scientifically. But I dare to say that it has become extremely difficult to conduct scientific research in some areas of sociology and history. The scientist who desires to research mechanisms of democratic totalitarianism will face extreme difficulties. He will be made into an outcast. On the other hand, those whose research serves the dominant ideology are flooded with grants while publishing houses and media are fighting for the right to work with such authors. I have personally experienced it when I have been teaching and working as a researcher at foreign universities.
Q: Does not this super-ideology you dislike, have ideas of tolerance and respect for others?
A: When you listen to representatives of the Western elite, everything seems so pure, generous and respectful to people. Doing so they use the classic rule of propaganda: hide the reality behind sweet talk. However it is enough to turn on the TV, go to the movies, open a bestselling book or listen to popular music to realize the opposite: the unprecedented dissemination of the cult of violence, sex and money. Noble speeches are designed to hide these three (and there are more) pillars of totalitarian democracy.
Q: What about human rights? Is it not the West who honors them the most?
A: From now on the idea of human rights is increasingly under pressure. Even the purely ideological thesis that these rights are intrinsic and inseparable today will not sustain even the first stage of a thorough analysis. I am ready to subject Western ideology to the same scientific analysis that I did with communism. But this is a long conversation, not for today’s interview.
Q: Does Western ideology have a key idea?
A: The idea of globalization! In other words, world domination! Since this idea is rather unpleasant, it is hidden under lengthy phrases about planetary unity, transformation of the world into one integrated whole… In reality, the West has now commenced work on structural changes across the whole planet. On the one hand Western society dominates the world, on the other hand it itself is being rebuilt vertically with the supranational power on the very top of the pyramid.
Q: To believe in it, doesn’t that mean to be a victim of delusional fantasies about global conspiracy?
A: What conspiracy? There is no conspiracy. The world government is controlled by the heads of well known supranational economic, financial and political structures. According to my estimates, this super-society, now ruling the world, has about fifty million people. Its center is the United States. The countries of Western Europe and some former Asian “dragon” countries are its basis. Other countries are dominated under a tight financial and economic ranking. This is the reality. Regarding propaganda, it presumes that the creation of world government under control of the world parliament is desirable because the world is a big brotherhood. All these are just stories designed for the plebs.
Q: The European Parliament as well?
A: No, because the European Parliament exists. But it is naive to believe that the European Union was a result of the good will of the governments of the member states. The European Union is a weapon for the destruction of national sovereignties. It is part of the projects developed by supranational organisms.
Planning! The Western economy is infinitely more planned than the economy of the USSR was ever planned. Bureaucracy! In the Soviet Union 10 to 12% of the active population worked in the country‘s management and administration field. In the US this number is 16 to 20%. However the USSR was criticized for its planned economy and the burden of bureaucratic apparatus. Two thousand people worked in the Central Committee of the Communist Party. The Communist Party apparatus reached 150 thousand workers. Today in the West you will find dozens, even hundreds of enterprises in industrial and banking sectors employing more people. The bureaucratic apparatus of the Soviet Communist Party was negligibly small compared with the staff of large transnational corporations of the West. In fact, we must recognize that the USSR was mismanaged because of the lack of administrative staff. It was necessary to have two to three times more administrative workers! The European Union is well aware of these problems and therefore takes them into account. Integration is impossible without an impressive administrative apparatus.
Q: What you say is contradictory to the ideas of liberalism promoted by European leaders. Do you not think that their liberalism is just a show?
A: The administration has a tendency to grow greatly which is dangerous in itself. It knows that. Like any organism it finds antidotes to continue its normal functioning. A private initiative is one of them. Another antidote is social and individual morality. Applying them, power fights self-destructive tendencies. So it invented liberalism to create a counterweight to its own gravity. Today, however, it is absurd to be a liberal. The liberal society no longer exists. The liberal doctrine does not reflect the realities of the unprecedented era of concentration of capital. The movement of huge financial resources does not take into accounts the interests of individual states and peoples consisting of individuals. Liberalism implies a personal initiative and taking of financial risks. Today any business needs money provided by banks. These banks, whose numbers are diminishing, implement a policy which is by its nature dictatorial and manipulative. Business owners are at their mercy because everything is subject to lending and therefore is under the control of financial institutions. The importance of the individual - the basis of liberalism - is reduced day by day. Today it does not matter who heads this or that company, this or that country: Bush or Clinton, Kohl or Schröder, Chirac or Jospin, what is the difference?
Q: Don’t you think that people can have their own opinions, and that they can vote and thus express themselves?
ANSWER. First of all, even now people don’t vote that often, and they will vote even less in the future. With regard to public opinion in the West it is shaped by the media. Suffice it to recall the universal approval of the war in Kosovo. Remember the Spanish war! Volunteers from all over the world traveled to that country to fight on one side or the other. Remember the war in Vietnam. But these days, people are so well shepherded that they react only the way that the purveyors of propaganda want them to.
Q: The Soviet Union and Yugoslavia were the most multi-ethnic countries in the world, but they were destroyed nevertheless. Do you see a connection between the destruction of multiethnic countries, on the one hand, and the promotion of multi-ethnicity on the other hand?
A: Soviet totalitarianism created a genuinely multi-cultural and multi-ethnic society. It was the Western democracies that made superhuman efforts to fan the flames of various kinds of nationalism, because they considered the breakup of the Soviet Union as the best way to destroy it. The same mechanism worked in Yugoslavia. Germany had always sought the obliteration of Yugoslavia. United, Yugoslavia could strengthen its resistance. The essence of the Western system is to divide in order to make it easier for the West to impose its laws on all parties, and then act as Chief Justice. There is no reason to assume that this know-how will not be applied in relation to the dismemberment of China in the future.
Apparently, the leaders of the new world order have chosen a strategy of permanent violence. Numerous localized conflicts will now keep igniting one after another so that the “humanitarian war” machine, which we have already seen in action, could keep extinguishing them. In fact, this is likely to become the solution to extending control over the entire planet. The West controls most of the Earth’s natural resources. Its intellectual resources are millions of times greater than the resources of the rest of the world. This is the foundation of the overwhelming hegemony of the West in technology, the arts, media, IT, and science, and this implies its superiority in all other areas. It would be too easy to just conquer the world. After all, they still need to rule! And this is the fundamental problem that the Americans are trying to address now… Remember that in the time of Christ, the population of earth was only about 100 million people. Today, Nigeria alone has that number of inhabitants! A billion “westernoids” and the people assimilated by them will rule the entire world. However, this billion, in turn, also needs to be controlled. In all probability, two hundred million people will be required to control the Western world. But they must be chosen and taught. That's why China is doomed to failure in its struggle against the hegemony of the West. The country does not have enough control, nor economic and intellectual resources to implement an effective administrative system consisting of approximately 300 million people. Only the West is able to solve the problems of global governance. It has already started to do so. Hundreds of thousands of “westernoids” in the former communist countries, such as Russia, tend to occupy leadership positions there. Totalitarian democracy will also be a colonial democracy.
Let me make an important point here: the West did not fear Soviet military power as much as its intellectual, artistic, and athletic potential. The West saw that the Soviet Union was full of life! This is the most important thing that must be destroyed, should one wish to destroy one’s enemy. Which is precisely what was done. Today, Russian science is dependent on US funding. It is in a pitiful state because the US is not interested in financing its competition. Americans prefer to offer Russian scientists jobs in the United States. Soviet cinema, too, has been destroyed and replaced by American movies. The same thing happened to literature. World domination manifests itself primarily as an intellectual, or, if you prefer, a cultural diktat. Which is why in the last few decades, Americans have so zealously tried to bring down the cultural and intellectual common denominator of the entire world to their own level – it will allow them to impose this diktat.
Interesting, although I'm sure the rise of the internet has thrown a spanner into the works of these "supranational powers". I'd put Putin on that list too these days.
You'd probably be better off offering the link instead of pasting in all this. Where is the link btw?
Exactly what I too thought, Latina Lover, that the more I learned about the EU, the more it appears to be a reincarnation of the USSR.
More importantly "democracy," and along with it the legitimacy of the "rule of law," both DIED when the banksters captured control over the public money supplies. After that supreme achievement of organized crime capturing control over the political processes was accomplished, through POLITICAL FUNDING ENFORCING FRAUDS, everything else has automatically gotten worse, faster ... with no end in sight to how bad that runaway debt slavery system, driving debt insanities, is going to get. Since money is measurement backed by murder, because the debt controls are backed by death controls, the runaway debt slavery, becoming debt insanities, is set to provoke death insanities.
At the same time, that the public "money" supplies have ALREADY been almost totally privatized, means that the majority of "citizens" are ALREADY acting like incompetent political idiots, or Zombie Sheeple. Since the vast majority of people were ALREADY being fleeced to exhaustion, there are no good grounds to doubt that they will eventually be slaughtered. There appears to me to be no reasonable basis to doubt that the vast majority of people in Europe, as well as almost everywhere else, would stop acting like incompetent political idiots, whose elected representatives have GIVEN AWAY THE POWER TO MAKE "MONEY" OUT OF NOTHING AS DEBTS TO PRIVATELY CONTROLLED BANKS.
That situation has ALREADY become runaway vicious spirals of POLITICAL FUNDING ENFORCING FRAUDS, in ways that the vast majority of people do not understand because they have been successfully conditioned to not want to understand. Therefore, basic statements regarding what a democracy should do, which is first and foremost that the people should control the public money supply, has become almost totally inverted and perverted, since now tiny minorities of privately controlled banks control the public "money" supplies.
Statements made by famous North American leaders, such as previous American Presidents and Canadian Prime Ministers, would currently be mostly unintelligible to the majority of Americans and Canadians, (while, of course, the same is most true about Europeans, and most of the rest of world's population.)
For instance, such as from President Lincoln:
"The government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. The privilege of creating and issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of the government but it is the government's greatest creative opportunity. By adoption of the these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity."
Or from the longest serving Prime Minister of Canada, William Lyon Mackenzie King:
"Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most conspicuous and sacred responsibility, all talk of the sovereignty of Parliament and of democracy is idle and futile."
Creating the money supply, as a public utility, should be government's supreme prerogative, and greatest creative opportunity, and its most conspicuous and sacred responsibility. Instead, giving away the power to make money out of nothing to private banks was the most insane domestic policy that a government could ever adopt! However, it is easy to explain the history of how that actually happened. It was simply the history of the application of the methods of organized crime to take control over governments, in a runaway spiral of the success of fraud enabling those who did that to constantly be able to get away with even more frauds. That started more slowly and secretly. However, it was on an exponential growth curve, so that it now is becoming blatantly obvious to even mainstream morons that the banksters have become the new royalty, who are above the law, because they effectively control the political processes.
Pretty well every significant political project for Centuries has been the implementation of the international bankers agenda. For instance the United Nations and the European Union were both developed by professional liars and immaculate hypocrites in order to advance the international bankers' agenda, which was outlined by historian Carroll Quigley as being:
powers of financial capitalism
had another far-reaching goal,
nothing less than to create a
world system of financial
control in private hands
able to dominate the
political system of
each country and
the economy of
the world as
a whole ...
However, I regard it as a mistaken label to refer to that as being "financial capitalism." Rather, it is actually the triumph of organized crime, because being able to make the public "money" supply out of nothing as debts is NOT "capitalism." Rather making "money" out of nothing is actually NEGATIVE CAPITAL, which effectively destroys "capitalism."
Similarly, the basic and important social fact is that after "We the People" lose control over the public money supplies (while instead the public money supplies are being created out of nothing as debts, by privately controlled banks, in ways whereby those FRAUDS ARE ENFORCED by governments), means that "democracy" was already killed by those events, and along with that, the "rule of law" became less and less effective, but rather, eventually the banksters became the new royalty, which were above the rule of law, due to the degree to which they had almost completely corrupted their political puppet politicians, who would be voted for by enough of the masses of muppets, in order to keep the vicious spirals of POLITICAL FUNDING ENFORCING FRAUDS, automatically get worse, faster ...
The so-called "New World Order" is NOT New, but rather, merely the Old World Order continuing to develop, on the basis of backing up lies with violence, becoming more sophisticated and globally integrated systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, which are less and less even bothering to pretend to properly legalize themselves anymore.
In my view, the only thing that happens when one learns about these things is that THE MORE ONE LEARNS, THE WORSE IT GETS! There are no feasible, nor plausible, ways that the basic political problems are going to be fixed in any better ways, due to the basic social facts that there ALREADY EXIST sociopolitical systems based upon ENFORCING FRAUDS, while those could only have developed to ALREADY EXIST in the ways that they do now because, for generation after generation, the vast majority of people more and more became incompetent political idiots, that acted like Zombie Sheeple.
Since the European Union was actually another stealthy political project driven by the international banksters, of course, the EU actually ends up more and more becoming like the USSR. However, there are no politically possible ways that enough of the people already inside that European Union are going to go through enough profound paradigm shifts in order to sufficiently understand what is really going on, and therefore, what realistic resolutions of their political problems would entail.
The runaway triumphs of the applications of the principles and methods of organized crime to control civilization primarily manifested as the public "money" supplies becoming FRAUDS BY PRIVATELY CONTROLLED BANKS, WHICH WERE ENFORCED BY GOVERNMENTS. The excessive successfulness of the applications of the methods of organized crime through the political processes, (with the supreme achievement of that being the legalized counterfeiting of the public "money" supplies by privately controlled banks) has driven civilization as a whole to manifest runaway criminal insanities.
However, at the same time, the triumphs based upon ENFORCED FRAUDS required that the vast majority of people develop attitudes that deliberately ignored the principle of the conservation of energy, as well as deliberately misunderstood the concept of entropy in the most absurdly backward ways. Inside that overall context, the superficial symptoms of the ways that "democracy" and the "rule of law" are ALREADY DEAD, are superficially observed by some people, BUT, then they propose superficial solutions, because they do not go through enough profound paradigm shifts in the ways that they perceive those political problems.
Therefore, as usual, I agreed with your comment Latina Lover, and it did not surprise me that the first comment I read posted on Zero Hedge underneath the article above was exactly what I was also thinking after I read that article. HOWEVER, as my reply above outlined, the problems are WAY WORSE than most articles and comments published on Zero Hedge ever tend to admit and address! That is especially the case because it appears to be politically impossible to resolve those deeper problems, since the established systems are that the FAKE DEMOCRACIES were already operated by the banksters' political puppets, who would be voted for by enough of masses of muppets, while there are no good reasons to expect that the majority of people in Europe, or elsewhere, are going to stop acting like incompetent political idiots.
Indeed, the vast majority of people do not understand how the monetary and taxation systems really work, and moreover, have been conditioned to not want to understand. The school systems and mass media continue to massively LIE BY OMISSION, while that situation of generalized abysmal ignorance tends to therefore automatically get worse, faster, rather than is ameliorated in any significant ways.
While I agree with the overall gist of this article, and Farage's interpretation of what is happening in Portugal, as a "new low," all of those developments are due to the basic ways that civilization necessarily operates according to the principles and methods of organized crime, because human beings and civilization necessarily operate as entropic pumps of environmental energy flows, in which context the death control systems are necessarily central to everything else, while history selected those death controls to become most socially successful by becoming the most deceitful, and upon that basis did financial successfulness become based upon frauds, through the vicious spirals of reinvesting the profits from frauds in more frauds, through the funding of the political processes.
The vast majority of people have ALREADY been almost totally brainwashed to believe in false fundamental dichotomies, and the related impossible ideals, so that enough of them can easily be fooled, enough of the time, by the best available professional hypocrites. Moreover, there is almost no publicly significant oppositions groups that do not also stay within that frame of reference of believing in false fundamental dichotomies, and therefore, offering bogus "solutions" based upon impossible ideals, that understand their mechanisms in absurdly backward ways, and thus actually cause the opposite to happen in the real world.
It is NOT possible to have better genuine "democracy" unless enough people understood that, as "citizens" they were necessarily members of an organized crime gang, called their "country." Furthermore, it would not be possible to have any real "democracy" unless those people generally controlled the public money supplies. However, in order to do that, then those people would have to understand that money was measurement backed by murder, as the most abstract from of private property based upon backing up claims with coercions.
Of course, none of that appears to be remotely possible at the present time. Rather, the established debt slavery systems have generated numbers which have become debt insanities, which are mathematically and physically impossible problems to solve within those systems. Instead, we are surely headed towards those runaway debt insanities provoking death insanities. Since the EU is the USSR 2.0, and since the USSR eventually collapsed into chaos, therefore, the most probable future for the EU is that it will also collapse into chaos.
The basic problems underlying everything are that civilization is necessarily controlled by the methods of organized crime, in ways which have become excessively successful and extremely unbalanced, due to the vast majority of people becoming incompetent political idiots, who are mostly bullshit consumers, rather than competent citizens. Since there is only one energy, there is only one sociopolitical system, and that system matches the principles and methods of organized crime. All other labels and terms for various sociopolitical systems tend to be based on their bullshit false fundamental dichotomies, and related impossible ideals, rather than based upon understanding those sociopolitical systems as general energy systems, through unitary mechanisms, because it is all the same energy flowing through.
Firstly, the vast majority of people do NOT understand that the international bankers are the best organized gangs of criminals, which have almost totally captured control over almost all governments. Secondly, most the few who do recognize those social facts then continue to still want to promote bogus "solutions" based upon the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies and related impossible ideals, because amongst the few people who do understand that governments have become the biggest forms of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, there continues to NOT be any deeper understanding of how and why that necessarily happened.
Civilization is headed towards psychotic breakdowns, due to it being controlled by systems based on backing up lies with violence, that never stop those lies from still be being false, but which sociopolitical systems continue to appear to be successful, because they can continue to ENFORCE FRAUDS, despite that those frauds continue to be false. Overall, Neolithic Civilization's social pyramid systems, based on being able to back up lies with violence, are headed towards series of psychotic breakdowns, because of the ways that financial successfulness based upon ENFORCING FRAUDS has driven the sociopolitical systems that developed to do that to become more and more psychotic, in the sense of becoming more and more detached from relatively objective physical, biological and social facts.
The European Union was made and maintained by professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, the same as in North America, and everywhere else, more or less, following the same basic pattern of pyramid systems based upon backing up lies with violence. However, the deeper reasons for how and why that necessarily happened are appreciated by practically nobody. Rather, by and large, the majority of people appear to continue to want to believe in the bullshit spouted by the professional hypocrites that run the established systems, while the only publicly significant opposition to those established systems are also mostly operated by similar professional hypocrites too!
Fuck the EU
Fuck them Indeed! +100
Here here. Well said governor. Stick it to the Eurocrats.
The will of the people is secondary to the need and greed of the banksters. So much for all the talk of democracy in the EU - it's just talk.
Fascism rules now in the EU and the land of the free. Everywhere in the Western world, Large Corporations, Banksters and the Military control everything
Like him or not, he's one of the few politicians warning everyone about the Elites.
No surprises they brand him a bigot and racist.
Smearing is always a sign someone is telling the truth.
What Farage is saying is twofold -
1) the UK cannot cope with more and more migration (it's too small plus doesn't have the infrastrcuture to support x million more)
2) Migrants are not the problem, bad quality one's are. So you have a test, if you're good quality, ie Dr, chemist, accountant, engineer etc then come on in. And if you're not quality, then fuck off.
And for the 2 points above they brand him as racist scum. Well, not everyone, because many now realise what's behind the curtain.
Since drugs and prostitution now (recently) count towards GDP aren't drug dealers and hookers "good quality" now?
That is only true if they are up to their adorable ass-cheeks in student debt.
>>Smearing is always a sign someone is telling the truth.
I like it.
Brings to mind another great Brit who told the Truth Enoch Powell's river of blood speech given in 1968, the man was villified by all and sundry, please read it, no truer words were ever spoken. this man had incredible foresight.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/3643823/Enoch-Powells-Rivers-of-Blood...
When capitalism stagnates/declines, one response is to turn to fascism. Well known examples include Germany, Italy, Spain (where fascism is still very much alive and well), Greece and Portugal, under PM Salazar (1932-1968). Fascism uses state power to maintain wealth distribution and class relations, and not surprisingly, has support from the financial elite. Don’t be surprised if fascism makes a very strong comeback in the EU (& US?). Michael Parenti (www.michaelparenti.org/index.html) has written extensively on the nature and evolution of fascism.
Interesting link. Thank you.
Fascism has been on the rise in the US since the 1940's every time you hear of new regulations that to make us "Safe" or to regulate buisness its just code for the Gov't hand picking who will be able to opperate and who will not. Gov't / Private partnerships are the obouse examples of it. Make no mistake fascism is alive and well in the US they hide it under the guise of socialism.
I was looking at a website which hands out awards for investigative journalism and of all the awards bestowed upon various media companies and journalists there wann't one about wall street or any politician above state level. I don't remember if any pieces about big company investigations were awarded a la Enron.
What gets to me is how bad it must be for these people who entered the field no doubt with big dreams about landing the breakthrough story only to find out that their jobs depended upon toeing the line.
Thus the media blackout on portugal and iceland's bankers.
The EU Commission is an extension of the Russian Politbureau, and with their concerted efforts to FUCK UP everybody's life in the preservation of their own peurile existence they WILL GO THE SAME WAY.
GET A BLOODY MOVE ON AND LETS GET ON WITH OUR OWN LIVES WITHOUT YOUR PATHETIC INTERFERENCES.
Farage is wrong, even if I see his point.
We're not talking USSR here, we're talking Banana Republic, i.e, the overtaking of governments by private interests.
The end of democracy. The banks, corporations and a tiny wealthy minority rule. It's a third world profile, same as the USA's.
The banks, corporations and a tiny wealthy minority rule.
And this wasn't what was going on in the USSR?? This is exactly how the USSR was run . . . the only difference between them and the "western democracies" was the banks and corporations there operated under the guise of the "State". The wealthy minority that ruled was the Politburo and their Oligarch backers behind the scenes.
As usual, he's right.
The EU is about the power and control of the global elite - mostly Euro banking dynasties.
The power to print currency in private hands, if it survives the *next* world war, will lead to the world war following *that*.
Nigel Farage has always been against the EU, as he has always decreid their democratic values, rightly so. The EU is a sham a night mare for the middle class and poverty, misery has been rising very quickly. Nothing works under the EU.
Being portuguese i hate the EU.
All this is is anouncing that they're fascists. Not that they weren't before. Not sure what the people there will think, but if they're anything like the sheeple in North America, nobody will notice or care anyway.
we will see him murdered or silenced via blackmail/threats soon. he's gaining international popularity in his stance upholding the rights of peasants.
Gorbachevs' 'Perestroika and Glasnost' put 'Brezhnevs`Doctrine' on the wrong side of History'
http://www.research-assistance.com/essays/-THE-BREZHNEV-DOCTRINE-----PERESTROIKA--.html
'Nigel' should perhaps pay a bit more attention - and apply his histrionics - a little closer to home -
where a ranking officer of "Her Majesty's Armed Forces" has threatened a military coup should Corbyn (Labor) assume power.
the british and american's have a quasi ethereal butterfly`efficacy..., of ceturies old breeding, incubated and sculpted in ancient worm`wood,... familiar to that of a symbiotic narcissistic solipsism... this altruistic anomaly of junk`dna that darwin fail'd to adapt regarding a heretical class of prim'ate mutations doomed to a xenophobic epoch of their own skullduggery...
fuck the slimey limey british!
With every single word: bugger him.
He does not understand a scooby of what is happening in Portugal and how its unrelated to the EU. He barely understands his own country let alone other countries.
This grand former banker and stock broker turned 'just another guy in the local'.
Terrible. You can do much better than that.
You can do much better than that.
I sincerely doubt it . . . .
Bit of a snowstorm....Catalonia seceding is much more important.Somehow there was no military Coup in Greece (perhaps the Germans threatened the Generals??).
For some reason they are very afraid of another Yugoslavia type conflict.Massacres,refugees,and it makes Brussels look like the hypocrites they are.
One more thing...Catalonia has threatened to start printing their own currency.This is a very big NO-NO. Ghaddafi mentioned gold backed Dinars and whoosh,he's outta there.This article was flawed because they neglected to emphasize Portugal is bankrupt.It wasn't the people who caused the financial meltdown.It was the banks...
As far as Nigel Farage goes,any man who can roger a Latvian barmaid five times in one night is okay by me...
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And those knobs didn't vote him and his party in, in droves.
They deserve what they get, as will we.
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