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Record Swarm Of California Earthquakes Continues A Series Of Unusual Events That Began In Late September

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Submitted by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,

First it was wildfires, then it was unprecedented flooding, and now it is earthquakes.  In the past two weeks alone, more than 400 earthquakes have shaken San Ramon – a small city that sits approximately 45 miles east of San Francisco.  Never before have so many earthquakes been recorded in that area in such a short span of time.  Standing alone, that earthquake swarm may not mean that much.  But when you stand back and look at all of the unusual events that have been happening since late September, a very disturbing picture begins to emerge.

 

But first, let’s talk about this earthquake swarm.  All over the planet, seismic activity seems to be increasing.  According to Volcano Discovery, dozens of volcanoes around the world have recently erupted, and Afghanistan was just hit by a massive 7.5-magnitude quake.  It was one of the worst earthquakes that Afghanistan has ever seen, and it is going to take months to deal with all of the damage.  So that is why it is so alarming that right now there is record breaking earthquake activity just outside of San Francisco

San Ramon, California, appears to have broken a new earthquake record over the last two weeks: A total of 408 small quakes have shaken the East Bay city, almost four times the record set in 2003 in half the amount of time.

 

“I’ve not felt so many tremors in decades,” Mark Stone said outside a San Ramon Starbucks on Tuesday morning. “My dog, Gimmel, she’s the first one to know a couple of seconds before.”

 

And his dog has been extra alert lately.

The state of California has been seeing a lot of disasters lately.  In late September, tremendous wildfires in the state were making headlines all over the planet.  In fact, Barack Obama formally declared the Valley Fire to be a “major disaster”, and federal funding was released to help fight it.  The following is from an NBC News article that was posted on September 23rd

President Barack Obama has declared a major disaster for the fourth most destructive wildfire in California’s history, a blaze that has forced some 12,000 people to evacuate their homes and caused at least three deaths.

 

Obama signed the declaration Tuesday to release federal funding to help with the Valley Fire, which has been burning north of San Francisco since September 12.

This has been an exceptionally bad year for wildfires nationally.  According to the National Interagency Fire Center, the only time when more acres had burned up to this point in the year was in 2006.  And the truth is that we are just barely behind 2006’s record pace.  More fires are still burning right now, and by the time it is all said and done I expect that 2015 will end up surpassing 2006 and will be the worst year for wildfires that we have ever seen.

As I wrote about the other day, we have also witnessed unprecedented flooding in recent weeks as well.  A few days after Obama’s disaster declaration in California, the storm that would became known as Hurricane Joaquin developed into a tropical depression on September 28th.

Even though Joaquin never made landfall, moisture from that storm absolutely devastated the east coast.  The governor of South Carolina, Nikki Haley, said that it was the most rain that her state had seen “in a thousand years”

“We haven’t had this level of rain in the low-country in a thousand years — that’s how big this is,” said South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley. Days of record rainfall and catastrophic flooding left at least seventeen people dead in South Carolina and two dead in North Carolina, Oct. 6, 2015. Thirteen dams have failed.

Following that, we also witnessed historic flooding in southern California, and the remnants of Hurricane Patricia caused flooding in many parts of Texas.  You can read about the details in my previous article entitled “Why Is This Happening? Unprecedented Flooding Has Hit The U.S. Within The Last 30 Days“.

Could it be possible that there is a connection between all of these events?

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Who knows? As NBCBayArea concludes,

"We just don't understand the structural geology of the swarms, why they turn on and shut off quickly," Schwartz said in a previous interview. "We just don't understand."

 

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Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:33 | 6720288 buzzsaw99
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Could it be possible that there is a connection between all of these events?

YOU'RE SHITTING ME, RIGHT?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:36 | 6720308 VinceFostersGhost
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Moonbeam Jerry should be stopping this.....what the hell is he doing?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:41 | 6720332 Normalcy Bias
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It's that GODDAMNED Climate Change again!

Clearly, one solution is to build high-speed rail tunnels through the most tectonically active mountain passes in the country!

FORWARD!

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:47 | 6720361 VinceFostersGhost
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If we just had a global tax.....all this crap would probably stop.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:10 | 6720460 Majestic12
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"Moonbeam Jerry should be stopping this.....what the hell is he doing?"

He's a fucking Jesuit, 33rd degree Mason...he "is" doing it...

there is not a "liberal" (as in caring about "the people") bone in his cabal body....

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:33 | 6720561 NoDebt
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He's a Shriner?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:54 | 6720642 Motasaurus
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There is a statistically significan correlation between the sun and the largest earthquakes. There is a statistically significant correlation between the sun and tropical storm formation, intensity and duration. 

I wonder what the link could be? 

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:59 | 6720665 Fukushima Sam
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Someone get Snyder a valium, he's freaking out again!

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:32 | 6720821 EnglishMajor
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It's fucking stealth proselytzing. Hasn't anyone else figured out that that is his ultimate agenda? Jesus and his lawyer are coming back.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 11:34 | 6721212 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Of course it has nothing to do with fracking in the region, now would it?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 17:17 | 6723422 mkkby
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It's actually good news.  Lots of small slips on the faults is better than one big one.

Fuck Mike "skeerdy" Snyder and his faggoty doomsday click porn.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 19:27 | 6723989 Theosebes Goodfellow
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What a bunch of flippin' idiots.

 

Let me draw it out fer' ya', pawdnahs'. If you draining the pool, even a really, really big pool with about say three or four hundred feet of dirt over it, well, that dirt sitting on top is going to sink down. But first the rock, holding up that dirt is going to quiver, and it's going to quake. Then the dirt will sink. All at once. And the tide below the Golden Gate Bridge is going to come in, for about 3 or 4 weeks straight.

As God supposedly asked Noah, (at least according to one sexual predator), 

"How long can you tread water?"

Edgar Cayce predicted this back in the 1930's. The inland sea of San Joaquin. Try to avoid hanging out in say, Modesto, Madera, Merced, Fresno, etc. You get the idea. Eastern Bakersfield should provide nice beach-front property opportunities. Surf's up, mothertruckers!!

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:03 | 6720686 Next to Arch Stanton
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Can't believe Michael passed up the chance to make a list of "400 reasons something is wrong in California..." (pretty sure he's the list guy, right?)

I actually live near this area - it's definitely a little disturbing.  I didn't grow up in CA so they still freak me out when they happen.  They only last for about a second or two, but it's the expectation of the next, larger one that's worrying.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 11:39 | 6726311 Tao 4 the Show
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I am considering starting a new career as a Doom Porn guy using the pen name "Phineas H. Dork" (initials Ph.D.). Then we have the full line up: B.S.(Brandon Smith), M.S. (Michael Snyder), and Ph.D. (Phineas H. Dork).

Also known as Bull Shit, More Shit, and Piled Higher and Deeper.

 

P.S. Just having fun here guys. The earthquake swarms are in fact interesting and the solar activity link has been studied seriously and supported with data. There is an ongoing argument about whether the Maunder Minimum cooling and volcanic activity increase were causally related to reduced solar activity or whether the volcanos just coincidentally occured during a period of low solar activity and the volcanic dust cooled the earth. I think we are about to see a repeat scenario.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 11:18 | 6721125 Amicus Curiae
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exactly, when the suns low or no spots our quakes and volcano activity rises.

Piers Corbyn uses that linkage and patterns to forecast rather well for global weather.(weather action.com)

he seems to be doing reasonable well  with the quake info as well,

better than anyone else anyway.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:48 | 6721682 PTR
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I wonder what the link could be? 

 

www.Suspicious0bservers.org is a good start.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 18:43 | 6723818 Motasaurus
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How do you think I know about the statistically significant correlations in the first place?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:17 | 6720741 ChargingHandle
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You forgot to mention that all this activity is the tea party's fault...or is it bush's fault... anyways.   

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 11:12 | 6721089 ersatz007
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It's because California taxes are too damned high and Mother Nature, being from the Austrian school of economics, is pissed.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 11:26 | 6721174 thatthingcanfly
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I didn't realize there was so much fracking going on in Southern California.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:49 | 6720369 MalteseFalcon
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Pay your carbon taxes or Hippystan gets it.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:07 | 6720451 BurningFuld
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Here's how fucking retarded these people are.......they are burning wood in Europe to reduce their CO2 emissions. Let me repeat that....they are burning wood to reduce their CO2 emissions. And not just a bit. Fully half of their climate change goal is met by burning wood.

http://reports.climatecentral.org/pulp-fiction/1/

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:24 | 6720524 pods
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Do they understand what trees actually use to grow?  Probably not, but since when has logic been a strong suit in the world.

pods

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:39 | 6720578 RockySpears
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Pods

 

The only good point in all that , that I can see, as a Brit, is that it is your forests we cut down to make the wood pellets for Drax power station.

Well done USA, destroy your forests to power UK iphones.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:02 | 6720675 Ignatius
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"Do they understand what trees actually use to grow?"

BrawndoTM   It's what plants crave.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 11:13 | 6721095 ersatz007
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Its got electrolytes

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 11:24 | 6721164 UnicornSkittles
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Now with electrolytes.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:22 | 6721501 A Nanny Moose
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Who was responsible for their edewkayshun?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:28 | 6720805 cigarEngineer
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Trees are slowly killing our planet. They sequester carbon and make the planet colder.

They destroyed the dinosaurs' tropical paradise. We must make sure that doesn't happen again. I burn all my trash to help.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 14:34 | 6722343 ersatz007
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F'ing trees! And the leftist indoctrination about how we should all plant more trees. Add to it those f'ing Canadians, Rush, singing songs extolling their virtues and the damn Hollywood chosenite media machine making the Ents look like our friends (LOTR) and brainwashing the kids. No wonder this world is going to shit. It should be obvious to any ZH reader that the Islamist Jihad is just a distraction in the trees' eternal propaganda campaign to rid the earth of humans.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:08 | 6720454 Majestic12
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"Unusual Events That Began In Late September"?

http://www.suspicious0bservers.org/

For people still stuck in the 1980s science class....

The sun and planets actually do have an electromagnetic impact on earth, as the earth has on the sun as well.

The result is at least a 60-85% prediction rate for earthquakes.

This is why "NASA" has just jumped into the fray and has called a "big one" coming soon...you know, just like Haiti.

Of course, that has nothing to do with HAARP technology or the DEWO (http://www.navsea.navy.mil/nswc/dahlgren/ET/DEWO/default.aspx)

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:34 | 6720564 _SILENCER
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Suspiscious Observers and Dutchsinse have been doing some pretty interesting Earthquake predicitons and event analysis.

Maybe Neal Adams was right about the expanding earth.

And, still, Jerry Brown has done zero to stop the scourge of seismic activity. The bastard.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:20 | 6720496 Majestic12
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"Hippystan"

You ever been to California? Redding, Red Bluff, Marysville, Santa Rosa, Yuba City, Bakersfield, Riverside?

You'd think you were in the "midwest" or Montana....

Highest 'white" welfare roles to boot.

Don't "corn-fuse" SF with California.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:52 | 6720632 RobD
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Very true Majestic,

Central valley areas of Cali are red neck country except Sacramento and the college towns of Davis and Chico. Grew up in Glenn County California, gun racks in trucks, Copenhagen chewing, Budweiser drinking bunch of red necks lol.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 11:21 | 6721146 ChickenTrain
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Yep.. This is the State of Jefferson and we won't take any of your hippy bullshit!

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 13:14 | 6721835 nofluer
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If you were so Right wing, how do "folks" like gov Moonbeam and Nancy Pelousy keep getting elected?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 11:31 | 6721191 UnicornSkittles
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Yep.  There's major city California with its hard core liberal/socialist values, and then the more rural, more conservative and poor, redneck as eastern Kentucky parts. I would rather live in the poor part than the "cool" parts.  Of course, since most of my guns are "illegal" by Cali standards I don't plan on relocating from the great state to try and balance it out. 

It would be better for us long-term if Coastal Cali and Sacramento  sank into the Pacific this weekend.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:48 | 6721688 Goofing Off
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Climate Change is certainly part of the problem, but the biggest part belongs to NASA who says we are spinning around this universe at over 150 miles per second. California better get a 5 point harness. HA!

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:20 | 6721484 A Nanny Moose
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he is more concerned that everybody be registered to vote when they obtain/renew their CDL

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 13:03 | 6721780 robertsgt40
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Judgement Day? Sure as hell ain't cuz of freakin frackin.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:39 | 6720321 BringOnTheAsteroid
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All these events are connected. They're all occuring on earth.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:16 | 6720381 FireBrander
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"

Could it be possible that there is a connection between all of these events?

YOU'RE SHITTING ME, RIGHT?"

 

I'll tell you what the connection is; this is ANOTHER CONSEQUENCE of Wal-Mart raising employee wages...that's what it is...all of those Wal-Mart workers have more money, so they're eating more and the extra weight is causing the ground to COLLAPSE!

CUT WAGES NOW! ..and divert that money back into the weightless $60 BILLION dollar stock buyback program IMMEDIATELY!

PS. Another possible "Cause" is that California is basically one giant fault line...nah...I'm sticking with the WalMart wage hikes as the culprit here...there are millions of Wal-Mart workers in CA.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:45 | 6720610 COL Jackson
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Oh no, CA may join Guam and flip over into the pacific ocean!

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:54 | 6720399 spellbound
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The scientific fronteer we never hear about is the control of the TELLURIC CURRENTS.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:48 | 6720618 sleigher
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Check out Landers and Eric Dollard.  Or you probably already have.  He is rebuilding his Landers device to detect earthquakes.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:48 | 6720622 Bob
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Damn, they've even been used for electrical power, as in the telegraph systems of yesteryear:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_battery

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:40 | 6720581 MillionDollarAnus
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This. It is impossible for forrest fires to have anything to do with earthquakes. Earthquakes are a result of underground tectonic plate shifts. Also, it is extremely inprobable that the earthquake in Afghanistant has ANYTHING to do with a small set of quakes in California. 

What kind of pot is the author smoking, Grapefruit Diesel perhaps?  Next we're going to hear some fantastic fable about Gaea, the huge molten rock she-bitch that emerges from the ground on El Nino years to pimpslap the oil companies around. 

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:07 | 6720700 BandGap
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He may mean a biblical connection.

BTW, the earthquake in Afghanistan could be interconnected with this. As plates shift worldwide they are going to push or pull others in a domino effect.

Shit always wobbles before it crashes. Small quakes could be a prelude to the big one, Elizabeth.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:18 | 6720753 MillionDollarAnus
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If he meant to talk biblical he should've just gotten biblical instead of vaguely hinting at something that is incomprehensible. 

The quake in Afghanistan had to have been several plate lines away from California. I would believe that little ones could have something to do with a bigger one near the same fault line but definintely not something very far away (as is the case here). 

And even if I buy your "big one" premise the rest of this person's article still makes no sense. What would forrest fires caused by drought, or flooding caused by freak rainstorms have to do with the prediction of a giant earthquake? Absolutely nothing unless you're high as hell.  

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 15:17 | 6722661 tudemonstro
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+1 for the Sanford & Son reference.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 13:34 | 6721964 nofluer
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COMING SOON - CTHULHU vs GAEA THE SHE BITCH!!!

GET YOUR TICKETS NOW!!!

“ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn”

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:28 | 6720801 Hulk
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come on man, flooding causes massive vegetation growth, it dries out with the drought, catches on fire, expands the earth's crust and creates Earthquakes !!!

/you must not live in Kalifornia!!

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 13:50 | 6722053 Mr. Universe
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earthquakes? nope, it's just the increase of the pitter patter of little migrant feet following the Moonbeam to be part of the FSA. Head to the DMV get your drivers license and voter registration in one easy trip. Next stop free education, housing, food and even a cell phone. Who wouldn't want that coming from some 3rd world hell hole?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 15:33 | 6722771 tudemonstro
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Birth pangs starting to get a little more frequent?    Matthew 28:4 - 8

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:33 | 6720289 SheepRevolution
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1. It's the Russians fault

2. Bullish

3. 1 + 2 = Russia good for stocks?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:40 | 6720328 Ignatius
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John McCain said, and I quote, "Barrel Bombs."

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:59 | 6720424 MalteseFalcon
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Barrel Bombs? In California?

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!

WE MUST RETALIATE!

So who did this?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:12 | 6720473 Majestic12
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"WE MUST RETALIATE!"

For quoting McCain, I agree!!

Get a rope....!!!!

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:33 | 6720291 I AM SULLY
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Cue natural disaster:

"We can blame 4th QTR weakness on that California slipping into the ocean and shit ... shit."

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:34 | 6720292 buzzsaw99
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mARK sTONE'S DOG HAS BEEN EXTRA ALERT. hahahahahahah!!!

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:53 | 6720394 GMadScientist
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Good thing too, because Mark himself, is so stoned he hasn't noticed that he's eating his starbucks cup.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:34 | 6720296 replaceme
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uh, yea - the deep aquifers are dry, maybe someone could sketch what it looks like when you hollow out underneath a structure - someone should be able to connect those dots....

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:36 | 6720310 NoWayJose
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Just wait - the wacko scientists will tie this into fracking too!

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:37 | 6720311 Dr. Engali
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Just a case of mother nature shaking off a few fleas. Bye, bye humanity, it was fun while it lasted.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:55 | 6720403 NoDebt
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I think you need a cup of coffee.  You're a little grumpy this morning.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:59 | 6720416 Dr. Engali
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I'm trying to get a bazillion hours of firm element training out of the way. Maybe a Snickers will help. 

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:12 | 6720470 NoDebt
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It might.  You were going a little "Steve Buscemi" on us.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:15 | 6720484 Majestic12
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"fun while it lasted."

Actually, given the size of the universe, very poignant.

Skip the candy trash, you're brain is working.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:37 | 6720312 Teh Finn
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Stop Anthropogenic Plate Tectonics!

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:49 | 6720362 Ignatius
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Don't laugh, watch as 'APT' gets funded.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:50 | 6720371 VinceFostersGhost
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Stop Anthropogenic Plate Tectonics!

 

STOP IT!!!

 

Oh....and we don't make change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIv4eh071NU

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:59 | 6720404 gladih8r
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Yeah, 99/100 scientists who earn a very good living from studying APT say it's real and definitely due to people walking around on the surface of the earth.  We must all reduce our 'foot-print'.  1-size Smaller shoes for everyone!  They are more eco-friendly.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:29 | 6720811 Bastiat
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Tecto-friendly.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:39 | 6720868 voices in my head
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Yes!  There should be laws against such things.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:42 | 6720316 Atomizer
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It's the sun you liberal cunt rags. Meanwhile, BIS is talking about spillover economics. You created this bullshit, you own it California! We won't support your crackpot UN mission. 

28Oct/ Beyond zero rates and unconventional monetary policy

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:38 | 6720317 somebody poison...
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Finally some good news...

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:54 | 6720395 silverer
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You mean this could be the black swan we've all been waiting for?  Buy the crevice!  I mean the dip!

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 13:41 | 6721998 nofluer
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If it's califonicate-driven, it can't be a black swan. It has to be paisley.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:40 | 6720324 Dr. Engali
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No worries, moar taxes will fix this problem. 

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:40 | 6720325 Servant
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I'm sure it has nothing to do with the USA forcing God out of the public (and to a large extent, private) lives of its citizens.  His protection is completely gone as of June 2015.  Let's see what happens next...

 

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:44 | 6720350 silverer
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For those that would leave a negative, ask yourself what kind of core would you prefer inside people that surround you when the SHTF? 

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:07 | 6720445 silverer
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I guess I got my answer.  The state-worshipping,  ethically and morally unrestrained, no holds barred welfare crowd.  Yep. They should be fun in a major natural disaster.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:07 | 6720704 Billy the Poet
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I'll want people with real world skills and a clear head if TSHTF.

Religion is fine but asking an invisible man for help is no way to deal with a crisis. The Ghost Dance didn't protect anyone at Wounded Knee and neither will any other kind of dance, prostration or gyrations be they physical or metaphysical.

 

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:40 | 6720879 Baa baa
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Life without faith never worked for me...

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 11:23 | 6721160 thatthingcanfly
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Billy, Christianity teaches that the Lord does for those who do for themselves. Now, there are some denominations that have ignored this - my cousin goes to one of those churches, and she believes that she doesn't need to save anything for retirement because the Lord has provided the Leviathan State to take care of her, which is heresy in my opinion - but no reasonable person can read the New Testament and take away the message that Christians shouldn't work hard, or learn survival skills, feed their own families by their own hands, ie. use their God-given talents and abilities.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 13:48 | 6722038 nofluer
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"Christianity teaches that the Lord does for those who do for themselves."

If I had perfect recollection I still couldn't count the number of times I've heard this - and it's just as wrong the last time as it was the first time.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 14:30 | 6722328 thatthingcanfly
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And if I had perfect recollection I still couldn't count the number of times I've heard putative Christians deny it - and it's still true as it was the first time.

Start with the parable of the master with three servants with whom he entrusted, each according to his ability, varying amounts of money. Read that, then re-read it, then tell me how you missed that one of the important messages from that parable is that the Lord does for those who do for themselves.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 13:51 | 6722064 FireBrander
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You don't need a (FALSE) God to be ethical and moral. You treat others with respect, you help those in need, you be kind to all living things BECAUSE THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO LIVE...NO (false) GOD NEEDED!

Since "God" came onto the scene, morals, ethics, and kindness have been on a downward spiral...and throughout history, some of the MOST MORALY BANKRUPT people are also those proclaiming to be "Closest To God". Doing things (killing millions) "In Gods Name" because "God" has chosen them as his "message bearer".

Total Bullshit; and you eat it for every meal.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:48 | 6720367 Doppelganger71
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Servant, I think you and I are seeing the same energy........

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:59 | 6720420 Servant
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I sure would not want to live in the epicenters of the rebellion against God in the coming months/years--California, New York and D.C. (with New England and the Pac NW thrown in as side dishes).  But our "leaders" will have a hundred execuses for what's happening and about to happen, anything other than the real reason...  His blessings are what made us "exceptional", let's see how we do now...

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:12 | 6720472 BurningFuld
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After your brain gets washed do you tumble dry or hang it outside to dry?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:51 | 6720633 Doppelganger71
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Servant, I live in New England, but have considered moving to Phoenix. Where would I be better off in most of these scenarios, Divine wrath aside.........................

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 11:15 | 6721108 Chumly
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Servant, Aside from your foolishness, I will assume that you are probably a really nice and well-meaning person. I will also have to assume that you are a "Christian."

Let me just say, and I only do this now and then, that I am sick and tired of my brothers and sisters in Christ making absolute fools of themselves in public forums. Thankfully you don't make a fool of God, because you don't really speak for Him do you? So, you really only make a fool of yourself because you display a lack of wisdom and prudence by trying to engage some form of quack eschatology into current events (Start with Ecclesiastes 7:13-14 as a reference point and ponder that just in your own life before telling the rest of the world how God is judging them). Do I need to say anything else?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:40 | 6721633 Servant
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Start with Jer. 50 and 51 before you make a fool out of yourself.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:52 | 6721700 Servant
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And you are trying to glean doctrine from Ecclesiates?  You are kidding, I hope.  BTW, for those who care about such things, Ecclesiates was written by a man who forgot to make God his center--it's the poster book of the Bible for what happens (and the dispair that results) when a man trys to use his own wisdom to figure out how the world works and solve man-made problems. 

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 13:45 | 6722019 nofluer
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Personally I prefer Eccl 37 & 38. (The "hook" would be the recently discovered massive oil deposits in Israel.)

Verily, verily it will SUCK to be a Ruski!

:-D

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 14:04 | 6722150 pazmaker
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Matthew 7:5   Remove the plank from your own eye before you try to remove the speck from your brothers eye.  

Pray for those who persecute you.  Love your enemy.   Judge not so you not be judged.   Preach the gospel of peace and leave the sorting to God.

God is no respector of persons. 

God does not force his will on anybody that would not be love.   Men punish themselves enough by wrong choices they need no help from God in the punishment field

 

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:00 | 6720430 Took Red Pill
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Yes, god is punishing us! Give me a break! What century are you living in? It's probably what Snyder is thinking, too.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:05 | 6720446 Servant
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The 21st Century.  Which is going to look a lot like the 19th century quite soon, at least in the US.  But rather than recriminations, let's just wait a few and see what happens, shall we?  BTW, how's that economic recovery coming since 2009?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:01 | 6721369 Took Red Pill
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As usual, George Carlin said it best;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE

 

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:53 | 6721724 Servant
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As more usual, God said it best:  "The fool has said in his heart 'there is no God'".  Ps. 14-1.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:14 | 6720733 skeelos
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Actually, no, God is not punishing us.  Yet.  These are all warnings from God.  We are in the last days and we live in Babylon. 

It is no coincidence Hillary's election is inevitable.  Obama made the Oval Office a throne, and the queen is coming to power.  The Bible speaks of the destruction of Babylon in Revelation:

"To the degree that she glorified herself and lived sensuously, to the same degree give her torment and mourning; for she says in her heart, 'I SIT as A QUEEN AND I AM NOT A WIDOW, and will never see mourning.' 8"For this reason in one day her plagues will come, pestilence and mourning and famine, and she will be burned up with fire; for the Lord God who judges her is strong.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:55 | 6721730 Servant
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Exactly.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:04 | 6720440 FireBrander
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"God made man in his image"...LOL...Nope..."Man made God in his image in order to control other men".

"God Given Rights"...Beyond laughable!

All rights COME FROM MEN!

God can "speak to you', he can ghost author a "Holy Book", he can make the "Chicken bones fall just so"...all "proof" of his existence and evidence of your "God Given Rights"...

BUT...if MEN decide to deny you of those rights...NO RIGHTS FOR YOU!...and "God" stands helplessly by...100's of billions of souls, all denied their "God Given Rights" BY MEN, for 1000's of years...and you still "be[lie]ve" in the magic man in the sky..WOW!

 

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:17 | 6720492 Servant
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You're right--all man made rights come from men.  If you place your hope and trust in them, then you get what man gives you.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:25 | 6720528 FireBrander
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"You're right--all man made rights come from men.  If you place your hope and trust in them, then you get what man gives you."

...and when you put your "hope and trust" in "God", then you STILL get what MAN gives you...some "God"...You'd think an "Almighty God" would have a little better control over his children.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:44 | 6720607 Servant
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Ahh, sorry--no.  I am competely unaffected by just about all the things that I know affect you.  I have peace, you have none.  God gives that, and man takes it.  

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:00 | 6720666 FireBrander
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"I have peace, you have none."

I have plenty of "peace" and "God" doesn't give it to me...I grant it to myself by fighting off MEN that are trying to control me through "God".

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:37 | 6720852 Baa baa
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Rare air on that pedestal, eh?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:44 | 6721658 Servant
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You are kidding no one saying you have peace, not even yourself.  There is a solution to your problem, but you are not ready for it yet.  Perhaps in a few months...

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 13:24 | 6721894 Took Red Pill
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This says it all

Servant Member 3 days 8 hours


Wed, 10/28/2015 - 11:51 | 6721305 FireBrander
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I'm willing to bet that man was "most free" prior to "discovering" God...since God made himself known, man has experienced an ENDLESS BUTCHERING of Men in the "Name of God".

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:45 | 6721666 Servant
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Ya, because Stalin, Hitler and Mao, the biggest butchers the world has ever known, did it in the name of God, right?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 14:03 | 6722128 FireBrander
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"Ya, because Stalin, Hitler and Mao, the biggest butchers the world has ever known, did it in the name of God, right?"

You left out Bush and Obama...how convienant...

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

As for Stalin, he knew religion was bullshit...but he also knew why it existed...to control men...to COERCE men into doing things for "God" that they would NEVER do for a man...Would you die for George Bush?...would you die for George Bush if "God" spoke to him and said you should?

"George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'"
Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:14 | 6720639 Rusty Shorts
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"In the beginning, Man created God"

 

 R.S. Chapter 1 vs 4

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:14 | 6720479 fishwharf
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Religion is bullshit.

George Carlin

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:52 | 6720638 GuyJeans
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It has happend before.

Lev 18:25  Because the entire land has become defiled, I am punishing the people who live there. I will cause the land to vomit them out.  

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:05 | 6720693 FireBrander
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Ah yes, but before I (God) "Vomit them out" I'll let them have one hell of a fucking party and use my name to justify it...

The fact that the "land has become so defiled" is proof of how GOD IS NOT IN CONTROL...MAN IS IN CONTROL...and God stands helplessy by...

You are confusing "God" with random chance and the natural, cyclical, nature of the universe...from Chaos comes order, and from order comes chaos...

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:13 | 6720726 GuyJeans
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It's all part of judgement. God giving you what you want.

Romans 1:28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God or consider Him worth knowing [as their Creator], God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do things which are improper and repulsive,

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:24 | 6720771 skeelos
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Again, you've got it wrong.  Satan (Lucifer) is in command, for the time being, of this earth.  He was thrown out of heaven for rebellion.  He continues to repeat the same lies and you've believed one of them:

First lie:  You will not die.

Second lie: Man is like God.  Your version:  man is in control

Those two lies in different forms permeate all of human history and people continue to believe them to their destruction.

All of the things happening are just symptoms.  The disease is sin, which is rebellion against God.  Stacking gold and preppring will not save you.  Get right with God, time is running out.

 

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:33 | 6720828 cigarEngineer
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If God gave free will, and then punished Lucifer for exercising it, i think that Lucifer is innocent because wanting to be free is not a crime.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:50 | 6720966 skeelos
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Free will and being free are two different things.  Don't try to confuse people by conflating the meaning of the word "free".  Free will is not an excuse to commit evil.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:31 | 6721565 Buckaroo Banzai
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Lucifer didn't want to "be free", he wanted to be God.

That conceit is the source of all sin.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:36 | 6720833 detached.amusement
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cmon churchey, any of us that are into that fairly tale still go pay homage.   most of the rest of us dont care.  and there's even a few of us that know of how the council of nicea completely castrated whatever the christian religion might have been and usurped it for their own means.   can easily offer all the gold in the vatican as proof.  or the fact that israelites have no record or mention in the egyptian history.  or the fact that the jews merely stole and augmented the ancient sumerian tales to declare themselves the chosen people and elevate those that seeded the place into the role of the one the almighty, which ee aint.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:56 | 6721006 skeelos
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Those are merely examples of how easily man is tempted and corrupted, and you've fallen for the same lies that have doomed billions.  Truth comes from God, not fairy tales told about pieces of pottery found in the dirt.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 16:03 | 6722929 zaphire999
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go away eat shit and die .. and be with your god

fuck off

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 11:47 | 6721275 FireBrander
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The Pope "urges" us to "take in" the Muslim refugees...as they roll right past the Vatican...how many will be staying at the Vatican?

The Catholic Churchs' view on:

Homosexual Priests: Immediate Expulsion!

Pedophile Priests: Shield them from the law, move them around, deny, deny...

Says a lot about who is running the Catholic Church...and I ask, when will "God" be "vomiting these people out"?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:36 | 6721605 Buckaroo Banzai
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If the Catholic Church actually did expel homosexual priests, they wouldn't be in this mess in the first place, given that 99% of the pedophile cases in the church are man-boy pedophilia.

Homosexuals and Marxists (aka "liberation theologists" infiltrated the church in the early 20th century, and have been undermining it ever since. They have almost brought the church to its knees.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 12:47 | 6721662 FireBrander
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Gay priest decries 'inhuman' treatment of homosexual Catholics

"A senior Vatican priest, stripped of his post after admitting being in a gay relationship, has launched a scathing attack on the Roman Catholic Church...He criticised what he called the Vatican's hypocrisy in banning gay priests, even though he said the clergy was "full of homosexuals".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34654581

I'ts ALSO full of pedophiles...Homosexuals and Pedophiles are NOT one and the same...Homosexuals can be open about thier sexuality...but Pedophiles must hide...care to guess which group is running the church?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 13:08 | 6721809 skeelos
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Many people don't realize Babylon and the whore of Babylon are two different entities. The US is Babylon and the "Catholic Church" controlled by the heretics of the Vatican II sect is the whore of Babylon. Both Babylon and the whore of Babylon will be destroyed in last days. Many will come in Chrit's name and they will lead many astray. Don't mistake heretics, including those of Vatican II, with Christianity.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:43 | 6720335 One And Only
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OMG must be fracking.

or smoking.

or global warming.

or eating red meat

Something needs to be banned or taxed or both immediately. Save the children and future generations.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:59 | 6720418 Kprime
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It's the shortage of blue fin tuna swimming in the ocean and keeping a steady wave pressure against the shore.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:14 | 6720477 BurningFuld
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I blame stampeding cows. We need a program to calm them down. Maybe cow yoga.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:11 | 6720718 Billy the Poet
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Om mani padme moo.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 14:12 | 6722226 nofluer
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SAVE THE BLUE FIN TUNA! (get your blue fin camo paint now!!!)

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:45 | 6720340 Bill of Rights
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Hopefully it breaks off and sinks rather quickly, same for New York, two epic liberal shitholes.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:46 | 6720355 silverer
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I would think that water, being a non-compressable stable material, that used to take up space in the ground and is no longer there because of continuous relocation, just might have a bearing on what's occurring underground.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:14 | 6720730 Vuke
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Good point.  And they're sucking it, along with oil, up everywhere. Suck the juice out of a grapefruit and watch the skin wrinkle.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:33 | 6720829 replaceme
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That's what I was saying - there are parts of Cali that have sunk over a foot in the last few years as the water goes bye bye - maybe that's not always a gentle process.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 14:14 | 6722241 nofluer
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sooo... youse guys are saying that California SUCKS??? I'll go along with that.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:47 | 6720359 GMadScientist
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Lots of little quakes is very much preferable to one big one.

Perhaps the slip faults have been lubed by runoff from nearby activity in the Bay Area.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:50 | 6720378 db51
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Bingo....as long as there are all of these little tremmors there will be no massive quake.  NO different than a pressure relief valve on a water heater....if you ever have one of those malfunction there is going to be a huge explosion from pent up energy.   Nothing to see here people...move along....as much as I'd like to at least see Hollywood all into the ocean.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:56 | 6720652 Superdave532
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That's a common misconception. The energy released by the largest earthquakes is thousands of times greater than these small ones combined. These little ones do almost nothing to relieve any larger, upcoming quake. 

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:32 | 6720824 Baa baa
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Any geophysicist care to respond?

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 10:06 | 6720695 GMadScientist
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I was about a quarter mile from the epicenter of the Northridge quake in '94...weirdest part was the quiet and darkness after all the transformers blew; you're used to that in the mountains, it's eerie as hell in a metro area.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:52 | 6720386 Gatos Locos
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The earth has become unstable under all the government debt.

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:53 | 6720392 Atomizer
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World System Theory. All my 5 year ZH bashing. Banking of International Settlements is understanding the 2008 fuck up. The theives still walk the streets. 

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DokCX7RRbo8

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 09:24 | 6720521 Urban Redneck
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+1 but Wallerstein is handicapped by his own ideological biases when he attempts to dissect a very goal-oriented and agnostic paradigm...  Math is a much more practical and precise discipline than sociology for what he is trying to do (unless you consider most audiences' mathematical illiteracy, in which case- perhaps sociology makes sense as a medium of communication).   

Wed, 10/28/2015 - 08:54 | 6720396 pine_marten
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Left there in 2010.  Just in the nick of time.  Fukushima, earthquakes and economic ruination. .......

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