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South Carolina's 'Female Student-Flipping' Cop Has "History Of Aggressive, Violent Behavior"
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
If you still haven’t heard of the psychotic violence perpetrated on a high school girl by Senior Deputy Ben Fields, it’s time to get up to speed. If you want a gauge as to how far this society has fallen, this is all you need to see.
First, a little background from the AP:
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — A school resource officer in South Carolina is on leave and his boss has asked the Justice Department and the FBI to investigate after a video showed him flipping a female high school student from her desk to the floor and dragging her across a classroom.
The sheriff’s department said no one was hurt during the confrontation, which was captured on cellphones by several students and posted online. One student said it all started when the girl pulled out her cellphone and refused her math teacher’s request to hand it over during class.
During the moments captured on video, Fields can be seen standing over the girl, asking her to stand up. The girl remains seated and the officer wraps a forearm around her neck. The desk then flips and the girl is slammed backward onto the floor, where the officer tosses her toward the front of the classroom and handcuffs her.
A second student who verbally objected to the girl’s treatment also was arrested.
Go ahead and read that again.
Both girls were charged with disturbing schools and released to their parents. Their names were not released, but the second student, Niya Kenny, told WLTX-TV that Deputy Fields’ use of force shocked her. Her mother, Doris Kenny, said she’s proud her daughter was “brave enough to speak out against what was going on.”
Lt. Curtis Wilson confirmed that Fields is white and the students are black, but told The Associated Press in an email to “keep in mind this is not a race issue.”
Tony Robinson Jr., who recorded the final moments of the confrontation, told WLTX that it began when the teacher tried to confiscate a phone the girl took out during class. She refused, so he called an administrator, he said.
Welcome to America’s school system. A teacher can’t even handle a slightly disruptive student on his own without calling cop into the classroom. Never once in my entire life did I see a cop called into a classroom, despite seeing chaos that makes “not handing over a cellphone” look like the equivalent of putting a shiny apple on the teacher’s desk. Absolutely revolting.
Now watch the video. It’s will make your blood boil:
To make matters worse, this cop has a history of aggressive, violent behavior. As the AP noted:
Fields has been accused of excessive force and racial bias before, but has prevailed in court so far.
Trial is set for January in the case of an expelled student who claims Fields targeted black students and falsely accused him of being a gang member in 2013. In another case, a federal jury sided with Fields after a black couple accused him of excessive force and battery during a noise complaint arrest in 2005. A third lawsuit, dismissed in 2009, involved a woman who accused him of battery and violating her rights during a 2006 arrest.
And that’s just the start of it. He attacked a veteran and his wife back in 2005, as reported by the New York Daily News:
Martin said the beefy officer “snapped” after he called him “dude,” and slammed him on the ground. He began pepper-spraying the helpless veteran, but Martin said he was trained in the military to resist the chemicals. An entire canister of the stuff failed to disable Martin.
“He became even more violent because I didn’t react like most people would,” Martin told the News.
His wife at the time, Tashiana Rogers, witnessed the fracas, and ran outside to take photos of the violent encounter with her cellphone.
That’s when Fields called for his partner to “get her black ass,” Martin said. The officer grabbed her phone and deleted the photos.
Fields then called for backup.
“I’m watching my wife get beat up in front of me, and there’s nothing I can do about it,” Martin said.
During the arrest, Martin told Fields the rough arrest would lead to a lawsuit.
“I’m glad Johnny Cochran is dead,” Fields shot back, according to Martin.
The officer also told Martin as he was cuffed that “you’re just another notch in my belt,” according to court documents.
“That was shocking. I was definitely shocked that the jury did not find in her favor,” Mobley said.
Rogers was shocked too. She worries Fields was allowed to operate with impunity — giving him freedom to terrorize high school students.
“I felt like if he had felt the consequences from 2005, this wouldn’t happen today,” she told the Daily News.
Precisely. This is exactly what happens when people in power fail to be held accountable.
Yet it gets even worse. As the Daily News reports, Ben Fields actually received the Richland School District Two Culture of Excellence Award from the Lonnie B. Nelson Elementary School in 2014.
Someone please lock this guy up and throw away the key.
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Wouldn't be in the news if she wasn't black. Who fucking cares about this shit....dindus never do nuffin.
White people are just fed up with kneegrows by now, beginning to snap and hit back.
And white schools dont have these problems until they become vibrant.
Wouldn't be in the news if she wasn't black.
It's your lucky day.
White teen executed for buying ten grams of pot. No charges for the peace officer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtrQQaB9fw0
hey
Did she commit a crime?
She is black. That, apparently, suffices.
That picture of the low-life at the end of the article is rather emblematic. Have you ever heard of a police officer brutalizing a teenage white girl in this manner?
If Good cops policed the Bad cops, instead of protecting them, we wouldn't have this problem.
Anyone resisting arrest or refusing a cops command, WILL be forced to comply.
Judges need to stop believing the cops 100% of the time.
I';m all for the cop. If you are a troublemaker in class and are asked to leave by your teacher and a vice princpal and then when a cop is called in to remove you and: 1. He asks you to leave and you decline, 2. He tells you poiitely that he is going to remove you and you hit him...well then bust her fucking neck if yo have too...these folks need to learn that you have to respect the rules and there are consequences for breaking them. She is not a victim she's a thug. I think this young bitch was coached by 'Black Lives Matter' to cause a scene so it could be filmed.
Btw, Black Lives Matter is about one thing: firing up the base so they are emotional come election time so they will turn out and vote. Its all based on bullshit and lies:
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/10/27/clarke-obama-lacks-the-courage...
Btw, i love all the down votes...its a sign of people who don't respect rules and laws (like our POTUS) and think that somehow this goes beyond the pale. Tell me what yo would have done differently? Would you have called in three more officers and carried her and her desk out to a paddy wagon, taking valuable resources off the street and wasting ths learning time of her classmates? Please, tell me how you would have handled this situation differently which would have resulted in a peaceful resolution while not wasting either the time of additional officers or her classmates. This young hoodlum is not a victim. To even give her the benefit of those type of thoughts will encourage her and others like her to go down the same path, and that path is one which is self centered and destructive to those around her.
The down votes are well earned. Aside from the fact that she was being a punk, she's a teenage girl. I guarantee you that if you were her father, and you reacted the same way the police officer in the video did, you would be in jail right now.
But taking a step further, there should NOT be police officers in school in the first place. Despite what the media would have you believe, school shootings are rare, and a single police officer has yet to stop a mass school shooting (i.e. Columbine had an armed police officer on campus). In fact, I would guess that protocol would dictate that they would call for backup before even engaging a school shooter. So, they're there to police our children at school? That is bizarre and unnecessary. Statistics show that violence both at and off school premises is dramatically down since the 1990s - if there is a situation that requires a cop, the school should dial 911, not lean over to the SRO who is stationed there.
I would imagine if this were George Washington's daughter, and a British stormtrooper had body-slammed her after she refused to acklownedge punishment for what has been reported as chewing gum in class, he would have already dispatched the offending stormtrooper. So, from that perspective, perhaps her slapping at the officer was the first slap at tyranny.
This incident is just a snapshot, much like the edited video footage. Backstory is needed to get a better picture.
Did the girl have regular run ins with authority figures? What were the officers alternatives? Should class just be
put on hold till Sharkeshia's diva moment has passed? What kind of parents does the girl have? Would it do any good
to call them in? There is a fine line to walk between overbearing authority and anarchy. Kinda like breaking a horse
to ride, without breaking its spirit in the process.
1 SRO per school is not enough
1 SRO per class is not enough
1 SRO per student is not enough
Hang this fucker by his balls. And give the girl a pinata stick to get to work on the motherfucker.
Exactly. If young people were taught about their rights these days, they would've seen it for what it was - a criminal act by a tyrant - and they would've gotten up and, in unison, kicked the living shit out of this pig until his face looked like oatmeal.
What.
The.
Fuck?!
What the fuck are you talking about? Congratulations, I've been here for 6 years and your last pararaph is the worst that I've read. You are an idiot. Or maybe I'm old. But 30 years ago I would have faced more aggressive action if I had done that. By a teacher. Those are called consequences. It's how you learn boundaies.
As member since the move from the blog to the website, it's sad to see what has become. All done seeing cartoons, black/white commentary, and trying to tie earthquakes to wildfires on a financial blog. How about some of that investigative journalism that you were founded on?
No kidding, some genius said the cop should have left the room and filed a report. I will give the numb nuts credit though, at least he offered a suggestion, unlike every other outrageously outraged keyboard warrior.
There's a simpler solution. Back in the day, it was called "off the pig."
If you're all worried that I'm "advocating violence," here's what the King James version of the Bible says:
"And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."
Or modern day lingo: "What goes around, comes around."
Not sure how the Bible is relevent here. What does J.K. Rowlings have to say about it? Makes as much sense as looking it up in the Bible.
When teachers are forced into the role of parenting instead of educating these feral students, cops are necessary. These iPhone-zombie students are more concerned with how to buy their fifth pair of Air Jordans than learning about, well, anything at all. These miscreants are forced into a public school system so their "real parents" can outsource parenting to educators. Kids who don't want to learn shouldn't be allowed in school. They should be free to compete for the jobs that illegal immigrants are happy to have. The few students left who actually want to learn can get an education, and the teachers can focus on what they are supposed to do: TEACHING.
Of course, all of this presupposes that we should have a public school system at all (we shouldn't). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okPnDZ1Txlo
People are reacting because this is no longer a race issue, the police are now fully miltarized to the point they run around fired up like it's a full blow war zone. The end result of this is clearly disturbing and not likely to change anytime soon since the justice system fully endorses such behaviour regardless of any laws to the contrary. The US is basically turning into a giant concentration camp where your neighbor is happy to throw you under the bus in the hopes of living to fight another day. Truly a sad state of affairs indeed.
eatthebanksters,
Although I am absolutely sickened by the brutality exhibited by this thug in uniform, I have to admit that it has become daily fare in these United States.
As for your example, you go seriously amiss when you say in response to being struck, "well then bust her f*cking neck if yo have too" (sic).
What should a properly-trained LEO do in those circumstances? Why, simply walk out of the classroom and file the report!!! It's that easy!
So the LEO walks out of the class and files the report...what then. The kids in the class face the continual distraction of this little self absorbed bitch and the waste their day of learning while she hangs out. Meanwhile this little cunt learns that bad behavior has no ramifications. She goes home and continues with this type of behavior and it escalates over time. Potentially something bad happens down the road. Then, if law enforcement decides to go to her home and arrest her, an even bigger spectacle applies and its even more all over the news: Cops raid home and beat girl to arrest her for disrupting class. Sorry, all this apologist behavior does not fly with me. We are all responsible for our decisions and they have repurcussions.
Additionally, someone said if this were my daughter I would be pissed for what happened and would end up in jail if I treatd her this way. This is true in both cases. But what's also true is that I would raise my daughter properly, from the beginning, so she would not EVER behave this way. Second, police officers are different than parents and when someone resists arrest or strikes an officer then force by the officer is justifed in my book. Folks, I am really tired of self absorbed, disrespectful and entitled people getting away with all kinds of shit. I am all for a tolerant society until someone abuses me or the people around me: that girl was abusing her classmates by wasting their time and putting up a scene. Sorry, kick her ass, and if you have to, do it again and again until he gets te message, cause being nice ain't gonna get her to behave.
We live in a tolerant multi-cultural society. Therefore, it behooves the officer to show proper respect to all its members regardless of color, creed or religion.
So after the report has been filed, the next step would be to return to the classroom if necessary, whereupon an impromptu crisis counseling session would be held with all involved stakeholders.
Now, then and only then, after all attempts to reach this desperate girl -- who is obviously crying out for help in her troubled soul -- have failed
well then, the next step would in all probability be to shoot her with a tranquilizer dart (with a medical team standing by to assist of course), then remove her from the classroom.
Are you fucking kidding me? Shoot her with a tranquilizing dart? Who are al the stakeholders? Where do they live and work? How long would it take them to get there? How long would this entire endeavor last? After we have wasted hours and resources (interventionists, teachers, cops, medical staff) on her misbehavior do you think she would have learned her lesson? If you did this every time a kid acted out in school then none of the students would get an education and school systems would be broke and the little thug would not have learned a thing. Why give this kid any respect when she offers none in the first place. Respect is earned not given. Bad behavior has negative consequences...arrest her and put her on a community work program, If she can't hack that then put her in a cell where she has time to think about it.
As to multiculturalism I totally agree about tolerance and racism needs to be stamped out. But don't mistake what happened here with racist behavior.
You live in a world very different than me and your world scares me...
I'm sure you're not serious... Very well, the stakeholders would clearly be the girl herself, the school mental health professional, her teacher, the police officer, other relevant school administrative staff, her parents, siblings and other close relatives and the other students in the classroom.
You must admit shooting her with a tranquilizer dart would be the most humane treatment, but if all other options are off the table, the officer could use his Taser as a last resort.
As a progressive libertarian, I believe the world must be bent to the will with the one hand and yet gently coddled with the other.
Sad to see the argument raging above. Many non fight club members here now. They fail to see what is right in front of them!!!!! Which is:
He was near the top of his class at the "academy" scoring high on legal and procedural exams.
Excelled on the pistol and rifle range.
Won just about every hand to hand combat drill and competition.
Went about it all with a zeal that really turns on the academy "administration"
On Sunday's he hunted down game and butchered it in the field! When he got home he ground gravel into his scalp with his bare hands and then cooked his meat in the yard!
And his girlfriend is black. He's respected a football coach as well.
Dennis Hastert was also a respected coach. But he still molested some kids. It's not as if respected coaches are allowed to do anything they want.
GF is black? So he likes to dominate black people in his home life as well.
He's a 'respected' football couch? Maybe hes a pedophile too.
His history of unreasonable violence shows exacly th kind of asshole he is. Would you hire an accountant with history of fraud? Multiple counts?
Exactly. So stfu, All of your 'evidence' is hearsay. His record is fact.
Uh oh, somebody's sarc detector is busted.
How do you get from his girlfriend is black so he likes to dominate black people in his home? How do you get from he's a respected to coach to he's a pedophile. What kind of logic is that? Are you a racist white hating pedophile? I'm sure you're not but this statement shows how ridiculous your statement is...And your typ of thinking is fucking dangerous becuase you come to conclusions with absolutely no basis in fact.
Can you imagine what would've happened if a black cop did this to a white student?
'Murican exceptional racism at its best! Cat's been out of the bag for a while and now they're desperately trying to put it back in...
I grew up in small town Michigan. High school was almost entirely white. We didn't have cell phones, but there were occasionally students who refused to obey a teacher's command. When that happened, the student would not be removed by a police officer. I guess it's become common enough that police need to be involved every time someone does something stupid, and fails to obey "authority", that even the supposed libertarians on this site have no problem with it.
There you go again, blaming the crimes of your beloved government on those who oppose the initiation of violence.
Yes, calling out faux libertarians for cheering police violence against a high school student is "blaming the crimes of [my] beloved government on those who oppose the initiation of violence." Another brilliant observation, Billy.
So your position is that libertarians oppose behavior such as that exhibited by the cop and you agree with them on that point?
Absolutely.
Then we are in agreement on that point. However, I'm interested in what makes you assert that those who support the initiation of violence by the cop would consider themselves to be libertarian. Which to which specific individuals were you referring?
There are 2 issues here: (1) thugcop needlessly escalating situation by initiating violence in the absence of threat; (2) a nigger being someplace she doesnt belong (school). The issues are distinct, and both need to be addressed . . . separately.
Do you consider yourself to be a libertarian?
Question is irrelevant to issues made clear from this incident.
BTW, you were correct to point out that there are two issues involved. You just presented it badly.
Stupid niggers who dont want to learn SHOULD NOT be in the same classroom with other races who are more intelligent and who want to learn. The truth needs to be stated.
Hmm, but as someone else pointed out, the THIRD issue is Govt teaching our children! If this twit's parents had to pay for her education directly...
1 is a lie. She punched him first. 2. The "nigger" was someplace she didn't belong because she had been told to leave, and upon her refusal was trespassing.
But she's black so it's all whitey's fault. Fucking just kill all white people already!
The video shows that he put his hands on her before she weakly slapped at him.
How DARE he lay a finger on that trespassing goddess!??
So you admit that the cop initiated the use of physical force. That's a step in the right direction.
agreed.
ZH is less libertarian than it used to be comments wise and even articles wise.
As much as I hate the statist, progressive Left, I find myself really, really hating the fucking idiot right wing military/cop/Israel worshipping fuckwits who don't have a principle that doesn't change depending on who the vic is.
I oppose all who initiate violence, That includes statists of all kinds. Even libertarians are a little bit statist but at least they're heading in the right direction.
Violence in opposition to tyranny is righteous and occasionally necessary to preserve freedom.
Defense against tyranny is not the initiation of violence. The violence has already been initiated by the tyrant in such a case.
Damn, I thought y'all be talkin bout librarians.
Sheit
Librarians only talk their book.
Violence = use of force. Violence does not equal threat of violence. Our .gov pulls off tons of tyranny using ONLY the threat of violence.
We could argue about semantics and I believe that I could make a good case that a threat action is an act of violence in and of itself. But setting that aside the point remains that a tyrant by definition has achieved a position of power through violent means.
tyrant -- a cruel and oppressive ruler
tyranny - cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control.
So to be clear I oppose all those who intiate violence or threaten to initiate violence.
If a hobo moves into your house while you're gone, it's not your house anymore. It's his kingdom, and no man may deprive him of it.
If said hobo is black and you are white, of course. Having it happen the other way you can kick his ass to the curb and shoot him if he doesn't comply.
If you use a machine gun to mow down a toddler who walks onto your lawn yakety, yakety, yak.
Why not discuss the issue at hand?
Because reductio ad absurdum shows that my position is the correct one, and you are literally gutless because they stole all your organs while you sat there and did nothing, as you didn't want to "escalate" the situation.
I've been at this a lot longer than you have, and know the nuances of it a lot better than you. You obviously don't machinegun a toddler because they don't have the capacity to do damage, and you can just pick them up and take them off the property with no resistance.
Reductio ad absurdum works both ways, doesn't it? But it is a helpful fallback position for when you find it impossible to discuss the actual issue at hand. The only question is do you buy your only malarkey? Sadly, I think you do.
Tresspassing violates the NAP.
You can make the argument that school grounds are public property, and are therefore no-one's property, but people are forced to be there and need to be safe, yes even from our ebony gods and goddesses who are above absolutely all law, reproach, and wrongdoing.
The NAP requires that any defensive act must be in proportion to the threat.
No defense is allowed because she is black. Just abandon the classroom, it's her kingdom now.
Also, no it doesn't. Otherwise it would have no teeth. If someone was running away after just murdering your entire family, they are no longer a threat. The NAP says you have every right to shoot them. Same for thieves (after they have been told to stop and return what they have stolen, but they run instead) or TRESPASSERS (after they have been warned that they are trespassing and given a chance to leave).
Your obsession with skin color reveals more about you than it does about my opposition to the initiation of violence and support for the rational resolution of disputes.
I am not obsessed with skin color you idiot. I am obsessed with the fact that a single group that comprises a large part of the population has been elevated above the law.
I rant in a similar manner against politicians and central bankers, who enjoy the same position, but at least aren't aren't gang raping or murdering people on a regular basis.
https://youtu.be/xBMMe5ziHX8?t=50 And I can see you have never actually dealt with these types of people before. "Rational resolution". You won't last an hour when you try my experiment. Rates of racism correlate with the level of exposure to black people. This correlates with lower IQ because black people have lower IQs than members of other races. If you spend time around them, GROUPS of them, you will see what I am talking about. Acknowledging that they are different doesn't mean that you have to hate them. I don't. I do business with them EVERY DAY. They simply are NOT LIKE WHITE PEOPLE. Give them a little power over you, and they will act exactly like Shaniqua did there when you try to reassert authority. And if you aren't allowed to use even the tiniest bit of force against her as a teacher, then you have to escalate until everything is out of hand. Once the police can no longer deal with the problem, they will either have to start calling in the fucking national guard or its going to be vigilantism. Your "solution" is no solution at all, and if you dealt with them at all you would know that.Of course I've interacted with black people. Your assertion that anyone who doesn't act like a wild-eyed lunatic hasn't interacted with black people is ridiculous.
You are completely wrong, corroborated by any first year law student.
You cannot shoot a tresspaser. You also cannot shoot a robber. The only time that you can use excessive force is if you have a very very good reason of imminent danger, such as a robber pulling out a knife and running at you.
You also can't boobytrap your property. Even in the 1950's the court ruled against a farmer who had bobbytrapped his barn with a shotgun that maimed a robber.
What time period do you think this is? Also, how is a TEENAGE girl reacting to an officers vice like grip reason to flip her over and drag her away?
This would have been easily dealt with had the cop had any tact. He could have told her that the school would press charges, that while she could remain in class, he would have to lock her up as she walked out. He could have told warned her about juvee, told her any number of stories about prison.
I would have told the teacher to deal with it, personally. Because I'd like to believe that being a cop deserves an ounce of pride. Unfortunately, this idiot has no pride.
And you would maintain that the cop isnt punished for this? The fucking FBI is getting involved and you still maintain that its a cop's right to apparently beat children for not handing over their phone?
Easiest solution: fail her in that class. Then she will have to retake it which is embarassing. Easiest way to get kids to do what you want is to embarass them. Now this girl thinks all cops are assholes, and probably lost the little remaining respect for authority. I dont think this cop has 'taught' her anything at all.
Billy, you're wasting your time trying to educate and enlighten LTER on what libertarians actually believe. He doesn't want to, and won't, ever get it. I gave up trying to debate with him long ago, and he is intellectually dishonest and misrepresents libertarian views all the time.
LTER is a pain in the ass and there have been plenty of times when I've proven him wrong beyond the shadow of a doubt and he couldn't admit it. But I'll be the better man here and say that LTER might just be right in regard to faux libertarians. tmosley comes to mind.
Now, i don't trust LTER's motives and he is likely using this as an opportunity to deride actual libertarianism but he may have a point. I'd still like to hear him call out those he considers to be faux libertarians by name.
Go down to a black neighborhood and spend the night outside, then come back. If you can.
I'm a fucking ancap, but guess what? People that get treated differently act differently! Blacks have been treated differently for a long time, and are now being placed above the law! You haven't spent any time around them, and probably have EXACTLY one black friend.
There is a reason they vote in a block, and there is a reason they commit FAR more violent crimes than any other major ethnic group in the US. But that reason is irrelevant to this discussion. The point is that they DO IT.
And again, if you don't believe me, go to a 95+% black neighborhood and stand out in the street all night and see what happens to you. Nothing will happen to you in a white neighborhood, no matter how poor--guaranteed.
Placing this violent group on a pedestal where no action can be taken against them is cuckoldry, and gets your entire race (lots and lots of INDIVIDUALS that share some characteristics) killed. Witness Zimbabwe and now South Africa.
But seriously, fuck you you ignorant shit.
But seriously, fuck you you ignorant shit.
Is that an example of your superior Caucasian breeding?
No, it's anger in the face of racial oppression.
For what it's worth I've found many of your posts which don't deal with race issues to be ethical and well argued.
If you're going to take that stance Billy, you have to ratch it up a knotch - oppose all who initiate force, not just violence.
E.g. Illegally crossing a border. No violence used. Force used ie physical action, not argument being used to obtain the objective.
Do you agree?
Any defensive act must be in proportion to the threat.
"Ratcheting it up a notch," is exactly what the cop did wrong in this case.
What happens when they finally steal the last thing that you own?
What happens if they steal just one of your kidneys? Will you allow violence then?
You sound like a fucking idiot who doesn't know the first thing about his own ideology. Libertarians/ancaps aren't pacifists, and we sure as fuck aren't race slaves.
Not attacking someone who hasn't attacked you is not pacifism. Anarcho-capitalism is a demanding philosophy which requires rational and creative methods for dispute resolution and problem solving of all kinds. You do not appear to be up to the task.
As a user of triple negatives, I can assure you that you are not. I have no idea what you are trying to say (other than "hurr u r stupid"), and my IQ puts me several standard deviations above the mean.
And no, anarcho-capitalism is NOT a demanding philosophy. It is VERY VERY simple, which is why it works. It only becomes complicated when you don't live in an ancap society. Were that an ancap school, and the teacher did not have permission to use force against the student, the exact same thing would have happened, however, as the bitch simply wouldn't get out and was trespassing.
Yes, you do have the right to LITERALLY throw someone out of your property if they are trespassing.
My IQ is 138. And I'm sane.
No you dont.
Go ahead and try it though. If they know to sue, you'll get fucked in court.
Seriously, your IQ might be high, but IQ never really matters. Read a fucking law book if you're going to tout bullshit all day. Then you might not sound like the complete jackass you are.
ONCE AGAIN. YOU CANT USE EXCESSIVE FORCE UNLESS YOU ARE IN IMMINENT DANGER. THIS ISNT THE FUCKING DARK AGES.
If the law doesn't let me throw a tresspasser off my proerty, the law is shit and should be changed.
And so how can restaurant owners throw people out for causing trouble, then?
Agree. As per his training and the use of the force continuum.
as far as "illegally crossing a border": who gets to say what is illegal, and from where do they draw their authority?
The government does, silly. Where do they draw their authority? From their firepower of course, as always.
Justice comes out of the barrel of a gun.
It's like you read my mind.
One day you will be beaten to death and the police will do nothing because you have taken away their authority to use anything but verbal commands against anyone other than whites.
Simon Phoenix din du nuffin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bOQitInC84
In fact, if you survive the confrontation, you will be fined and imprisoned (if not executed) for littering, because he broke out all your teeth and you carelessly left them on the ground.
Perhaps you hadn't noticed but the girl in the video didn't beat anyone to death. I think that a grown man could survive a confrontation with a smart mouthed teen who remained in her seat.
You're right. They should have just let her have the room. Name her Queen Shaniqua, Goddess of all she surveys. It'll be her kingdom, and we have to provide her with all the necessities to allow her to stay there forever and for all time, all for free.
Edit: and, of course, she should be free to attack or kill anyone she wants. After all, her black skin is a sign that she possesses the Mandate of Heaven.
Well you just keep on getting mad at things you made up. Those of us who are rational individuals will deal with real problems in the real world.
Tell me, exactly how long would you allow her to stay there, then? If you aren't willing to do anything to remove her from the premesis, then you have literally ceded her the right to her own kingdom.
You are so rational that you will allow your organs to be stolen without drawing a gun in your own defense.
There are any number of options besides assaulting a minor and doing nothing.
Please, do elaborate. I hadn't considered simply turing loose a herd of rabid ferrets in the room, for example. I guess that might work.
And if you are going to talk to her, they tried that.
I find that doing the opposite of what is expected is a fun and useful tactic. I would not have called the cops. I'm unclear on what she did but someone mentioned that she was using a cellphone. I might have led the other students in the singing of a song and made it impossible for her to have a conversation. Or I might lead the other students to another room such as the library and leave her behind. If nothing else it would be a good lesson in conflict resolution and would likely have been more valuable than whatever indoctrination had been going on in the classroom previously. There are of course many other possibilities as well. Worst case scenario would be that one class period was missed which isn't a big deal since public schools can't seem to teach students to read in the course of twelve entire years.
Anything would have been better than calling a cop and having him throw the student around. It's not only bad for the victim but sends a pro-violence message to everyone else involved including the cop. Do you think that the cop who executed the white kid for buying pot did so as his first act of brutality? Of course not. He learned to act that way from years of practice and reinforcement.
Embarass her. In front of the class. Easiest method. No kid wants to be the butt of a joke.
Tell her she can keep her phone now, but she will be back in summer for summer school. Fucking simple.
Another way would be to kindly tell her to leave. Dont ask for the phone, just tell her if she think its that important she can leave. Then tell her that she won't be a part of that class anymore. That she can have an extra busy year next year, or never graduate.
There are literally, so many options that dont require violence. And at the end of the day, the best way to get back at someone is to subtely do something that will greatly affect them later down the road. A failing grade could mean that she doesnt graduate, that she can't get a job, that she has to spend her summer in school, etc.
A cop throwing her onto the floor and getting his ass reamed by social media? That taught her that what she did was OK. Also that white cops are racist fucks. So basically, it taught her nothing at all. Her charges will probably be dropped and she will live life with a little more hate.
Don't smart mouth cops.
"One day you will be beaten to death and the police will do nothing because you have taken away their authority to use anything but verbal commands against anyone other than whites."
People are beaten to death every day and the police have never done anything to stop it.
They are a mop up crew, not security.
Want the proof? Ever see rich or powerful people surrounding themselves with police for protection? Nope - security, yes. Police, no.
Cops don't protect people. Soldiers don't protect freedoms either. Both serve the Government.
Clear out the crap from your heads. There is a difference between being a Patriot and being a jingoistic government stooge.
Learn it.
You can say that, but that doesn't make it so. It's not like its in their job description to just let crimes continue on happening while they stand around and watch, as was the case here (trespassing).
I'd like to think that if I am standing in the middle of a police station and someone started beating me to death that one of them would do something about it before I died. But if the assailant was black, I'm starting to think they wouldn't do a thing, and probably just let him walk out, perhaps telling him sternly to let them arrest him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bOQitInC84
You may like to think that, but the truth of the situation is that they are not required to save you. They may choose to, but that is not their job. They'll probably arrest the guy doing it though.
As to saving you, that'll be up to the cop in question, but I reiterate, he is not required to do so.
Hmm, LEO first, Human Being second -- got it.
What about having a modicum of respect for the teachers and the other students who might actually wish to take advantage of the fact that they are in a school and actually try to learn something. If all she wanted to do is talk on the phone, she could have done it at home and no one would have bothered her. The fact that she so ostentaciously tried to be disruptive got her in trouble. Sorry! This time I vote for the police officer.
f all she wanted to do is talk on the phone, she could have done it at home and no one would have bothered her.
Students are compelled to attend school by law.
I'm compelled by law to go to jury duty. What do you think would happen to me, as a heterosexual white male, if I talked on the phone during a trial?
Do you think they'd let me set up my own kingdom in the courtroom?
If you did talk on the phone while in the courtroom and spellbound had said that no one compelled you to be there I would correct him on that point as well. Do you have a problem with accuracy?
Being compelled to do something forgives all other crimes?
If so, it's fucking Purge time.
Why pretend that I said something that I did not say?
Because you implied it. Very clearly and strongly.
Perhaps you are as much a master of the language as you are the philosophy?
I have a degree in Literature in English and scored in the 97th percentile on the Graduate Review Exam for that subject.
What i've clearly said throughout this thread is that the cop's actions were extreme considering the violation in question.
You may thinks so, but it will probably suprise you that the law and the courts will most likely not agree.
Extreme for tresspassing, yes. For assault no - and that will be the charge.
Likely true. But I am discussing the reality of what could be seen in the video and not the anti-citizen attitudes of the police and courts. The deck is stacked in favor of government brutality almost every time.
Purposely designed and supported that way actually. Speaking from experience and thorough understanding ot the law in question, you have inadvertantly hit it right on the head.
It's supposed to be that way, designed as it is by the government.
She would have gotten an absence. If she wants to she can be home schooled if her parents give a damn.
Do you mean that she's entitled to disrupt the class so that no one can learn, i.e. hold a conversation on the phone during class?? Have you completely lost track of reality?
Do you mean that she's entitled to disrupt the class so that no one can learn, i.e. hold a conversation on the phone during class??
I did not say that. I simply pointed out that your assertion that the student was not compelled to be there was incorrect.
Have you completely lost track of reality?
You're the one who hears words no one ever said.
I'm sorry but I didnt see anything about disrupting class - if anything, it was the teacher disrupting class because someone didnt want to pay attention. Apparently paying attention in class is worth beating someone for. ( where's the distinction between using a cel phone and being on a voice call...if she was on a voice call during class then of course that's disruptive)
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Oh, you're yet another cucked white. Go get in your cuck shed. Your Bull needs some time to take care of business.
Are you fucking kidding me?! So you have never heard of home school? For fucks sake get your head out of your ass.
Is that where you learned your good manners and superior method of discourse?
It's called disgust at the manner of inhumanity and stupidity displayed by more and more members of our previous civilization. If my discourse of brutal honesty is too much for you too handle, you are free not to read it.
Then why are you sniping at me? I'm on your side.
Well, yer getting closer to the heart of the matter: WHY is Govt involved in teaching our children AT ALL?
The problem here is simple. It's not that the cop used force against the student. It's the level of force he used. All that was required was a compliance hold and then marching her out of the school. Physically hurling her around and slamming her to the ground is overkill.
The cop overshot the required level of force. Otherwise his actions are justified.
Enough said.
A mistake people make is reacting to the cop as a cop. Better to see the person, who is wearing the uniform. No one likes being treated with bad manners. Smart money says the student told the cop to F* Off, which is insulting to any person and the cop consequently was angered by the bad studetn behavior and reacted. I would be shocked if a recording of the words exchanged did not show the student antagonizing the cop. If a cop stops me, say on a routine traffic stop, and I tell the cop to go F* himself, and he then beats on me, I have only myself to blame. I have no love for cops, but polite behavior is required for a civilization to exist.
Really? So what if she swore at him? Did she hurt his feelings? AWWWWWWW. That's too fucking bad. He is the professional and needs to have both acceptance and training for how to handle verbal abuse thrown his way. He responded like a power loving overbearing psychopathic bully. But that's okay because he wears a blue costume with a shiny badge. Is it okay if I pummel someone because they swear at me, and I have a power trip and go all off on him or her. I believe I go to court if not to jail. But it's okay if officer DICKHEAD does it right. What the fuck is with your line of thinking here.
Really, how is this piece of shit cop's actions justified? If this had been a protest out on the street where this same kid was just walking with a sign, would it also have been okay to ASSAULT her as well. In fact the cop should not have touched her at all! He violated her space, committed an assaultive act. School is NOT the prison system where anything fucking goes. What the hell is wrong with you!? What gave him the legal authority to even fucking touch her!! He wasn't busting her for drugs, or even a possible breaking of the law. This fucker needs street justice, a thousand times over. He's a dictatorial fuckwad who needs his ass handed back to him and either dead or permanently disabled, so that it matches his shitty fucking character.
Ammendment. That would have been enough for tresspassing. Didn't catch the assault that took place in the first viewing. Cop is legally in the right. You don't have to like it.
Only white people are libertarians.
I went to school in VERy rural Michigan during the 1970s. When we were asked to do something by a teacher we did it. I never saw anything like this. We also respected the police since we knew them by name and went to school with their kids.
There is a lack of respect and accountability on both sides of this situation. Neither is healthy for human relations.
The commentary section of this website is largely populated by racist & right-wing extremist fringes, who are attempting to avoid the stigma which comes with these designations.
Go fuck a chimpanzee, or some other primate that carries the 'stigma' of being 15 IQ points short of the average for a white or 20 IQ points short of the average asian. Not to mention the predisposition to commit violent crime.
The irony about White Supremacists is that you drooling inbreds typically represent the least intelligent, educated and cultured of all "whites".
According to your own dogma, that makes you an inferior subgroup the rest of us should actively prevent from procreating.
I'm inbred? I think your commentary reveals the quality of your thoughts. You may as well be a barking dog who happens to notice a passing vehicle and decides to <bark> b/c it's the only thing the dog can do.
'I am here' barks the dog. You are ZH's barking dog: congnitively limited, and apparently incapable of seeing another perspective.
Go piss on a fire hydrant, and then fuck a primate. You may feel better about yourself and position in the world.
eirik is right, there are unfortunately a lot of ill-informed, overly opinionated klan / neo-nazi types on zh who lower the quality of the discourse here and don't really have much of value to add to the conversation, basically, blacks are bad, jews are bad, muslims are bad...anyone that's different from them is bad.
"incapable of seeing another perspective." - what perspective is that, exactly? that blacks are bad and whites are good? or is there some more subtle point you are trying to make unsuccessfully?
"Go piss on a fire hydrant, and then fuck a primate." - apparently, you don't understand that humans are, in fact, primates. racists aren't exactly the brightest bunch of people.
racists and race-baiters are just tools of the oligarchy, even if they don't know it - they divide people against each other, when we should be working together to bring down those in the government, such as the war criminals like bush, cheney, obama, kerry, etc, and bring them to justice.
There needs to be an honest conversation in our nation about the why and how niggers are stupid and disproportionately commit violent crimes. I'm done excusing their bad behavior and paying for their free shit. I'm not OK with US .gov's reverse discrimination, either. You want to see racist and race baiter? Look @ that nigger Obama and his commentary about 'If I had a son". Fuck your dishonest viewpoint and opinions.
keep on trollin'...
Hey, play Dueling Banjos, I want to dance!
And for that stereotype you mention, I'll just leave this here: This is how niggers do, I mean 'due'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B__BZ9Wd7zE
I come from a long line of clog dancers so it's all in the family (ha ha).
"an inferior subgroup the rest of us should actively prevent from procreating."
So, you agree with us, this should be our course of action with the negroes !
Facts are facts, friendo.
If reality is racist, you are free to ignore it. But you won't be able to ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. Just ask the white farmers of Zimbabwe. Well, any that weren't brutally murdered in order to steal their land. Which is almost all of them.
"Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals." -- Ron Paul
racism: Noun.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to dominate others or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.I have said nothing about cultural or individual acheivement. I have said that they behave differently (fact-read the crime statistics if you don't believe me), and have been placed above the law, and as a result, those differences are creating an atmosphere of extreme and intimate oppression. You are no longer allowed to enforce the law against blacks without their permission.
"I have said nothing about cultural or individual acheivement. I have said that they behave differently (fact-read the crime statistics if you don't believe me)" --tmosley
"More than half the people getting the death penalty are poor blacks. This is the one place, the one remnant of racism in our country is in the court system, enforcing the drug laws and enforcing the death penalty." -- Ron Paul
"Placing this violent group on a pedestal where no action can be taken against them is cuckoldry, and gets your entire race (lots and lots of INDIVIDUALS that share some characteristics) killed. Witness Zimbabwe and now South Africa." --tmosley
"Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups." -- Ron Paul
Niggers commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime. Is it racist to give a nigger (that you dont know) a wide berth on the sidewalk after dark . . . or is it rational? I say the latter. .Gov uses statistics processed thru an algorithm to assess risk. What people like Ron Paul calls 'racism' I call a statistically-based algorithm for reducing risk. Let's see how many niggers live within 1500 feet of Ron Paul's home, what % of his country club's membership is nigger, etc. I find it hilarious that so many of the multiculturalists are in fact people who do everything they can to insulate themselves from niggers.
Most ZH readers are perfectly normal beasts but you are right that a large proportion of *commenters* and *voters* are motivated by strongly anti-social tendencies. The most negative votes I ever received was for my position that Abraham Lincoln was NOT a mass murderer and that the actions of slaveholders were the root of that bloody slaughter of American youth.
Lincoln threatened war if the South did not continue to funnel tax money to the Federal government.
"In doing this there needs to be no bloodshed or violence, and there shall be none unless it be forced upon the national authority. The power confided to me will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property and places belonging to the Government and to collect the duties and imposts; but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion, no using of force against or among the people anywhere" -- Lincoln's First Inaugural Address
http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres31.html
I don't think "largely populated" is accurate.
I also suspect that your threshold for calling a white person racist is, to me, a bit low.
that said - I have to in large part agree with you. While a libertarian/classical liberal/paleo-con group remains, there has been a shift in comments as, I believe, people devoted to Breitbart and Drudge wandered over - caring nothing about Austrian School thinking or libertarian political or legal philosophy.
Which would actually all be fine, right - but many of these people are not only nakedly racist, but just dumb, unthinking meatsacks.
The sort of guys I hope end up getting drafted and sent to Syria to "defend America."
There is no stigma for fighting for your own people's Rights, you communist cunt.
The insults of your enemy are badges of honor bestowed upon you.
In that, and that alone, I thank you.
What the hell is the school doing allowing cell phones in the class room?
Since teachers and schools have received so many law suits, justified or not, when teachers used a ruler across the hand, teacher discipline has been made illegal. Enter the police force with the assumption they can beat you to a pulp for not complying with an order. You do not have to obey an illegal demand.
Schools used to be able to suspend students or expel them. What happened to that way of dealing with unruly students?
Police Officers do not have Judicial powers. They have no right to take away any of your Constitutional rights unless you do harm to person or property. It is a fact of law, but almost no one, including lawyers have any desire or knowledge of how to prosecute a public official who kidnaps and beats you with out evidence of a crime or a warrant issued by a judge. The have no more judicial powers than a private citizen to make an arrest.
The police and any public official can be taken to court by suit for damages because of lack of due process. You can make the police and the courts rue the day they ever violated your right to due process. If you have right on your side and someone to assist you who actually understands the law, procedure and rules of court. If you didn't agree to be a part of their corporate administrative system, they can't prove it. That means they must follow due process or expose themselves to personal liability.
LetThemEatRand
yep
lots of comments in this thread by people who obviously support
a regimented authoritarian society where the "rules" (made by?) are strictly enforced
by "authorities" who can beat with impunity those who don't behave in the manner they approve.
Many obviously also long to live in a cloistered and closed society
where they don't have to tolerate anyone they personally find disagreeable or too "different".
White schools seem to have more student shootings in the school while black schools tend to have more violence outside....just observing