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US Ground Troops In Syria Is "Illegal, Big Mistake", Russia Warns Obama Of "Unpredictable Consequences"
On Tuesday, Defense Secretary Ash Carter told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the US would no longer hesitate to engage in “direct action on the ground” in Iraq and Syria.
The change in rhetoric (and apparent shift in strategy) comes just days after the US seemingly prepared the public for what might be coming by releasing helmet cam footage of what Washington says was a raid on an ISIS prison by Delta Force (accompanied by the Peshmerga). 70 prisoners were allegedly freed although not before the US suffered its first combat death in Iraq since 2011.
The timing of the video is suspect, to say the least. It came just days after Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joe Dunford visited Iraqi PM Haider al-Abadi in an effort to dissuade Baghdad from requesting Russian airstrikes on ISIS targets. In short, it appears as though Washington is trying to simultaneously, i) prove to Mid-East governments that the US can still be effective in the fight against terrorism even as questions remain about ulterior motives and even as Russia racks up gains in Syria, and ii) prepare the public for the possibility that America is about to put boots on the ground in Iraq and Syria. Here’s more from WSJ on Washington’s new “strategy”:
The White House is seriously considering deploying a small squadron of Apache attack helicopters to Iraq as part of a package of new assistance programs to counter Islamic State, according to U.S. officials.
The move could ultimately require the deployment of hundreds more U.S. service members to Iraq. Among other proposals, U.S. officials said some in the military recommend openly deploying a small number of forces on the ground in Syria, embedded among moderate rebels or Kurdish forces there, for the first time.
Pressure is mounting on the regime to change course. Recent Russian intervention in Syria on the side of the regime, and the threat of Moscow intervening in Iraq next, has spurred the U.S. to step up its role, defense officials acknowledge.
Pentagon officials have recommended to the White House that the U.S. deploy as many as eight Apache helicopters and their crews to Iraq. The helicopters, known for their targeting prowess, could work in conjunction with as many as two dozen ground spotters who would embed with local ground forces to call in strikes against Islamic State targets.
Another proposal, which is less likely, would insert small numbers of combat advisers on the front lines with Iraqi forces and possibly with moderate rebels inside Syria. Pentagon officials are also likely to enhance Iraqi intelligence capabilities, possibly through a group on the ground that would serve as a single point of coordination between the U.S. and Iraq, a senior military official said.
Last week, the defense chief said Americans should expect more raids like the joint U.S.-Kurdish operation that took place in the town of Hawija, Iraq, in which 70 prisoners were freed and an American was killed in action, the first since 2011. The U.S. also recently dropped 50 tons of ammunition to an umbrella group of moderate rebel forces inside Syria now known as the Syria-Arab Coalition, or SAC, as part of a renewed effort to strengthen local forces.
Pentagon and White House officials indicated the deployment of Apache helicopters was being given the most serious consideration, and therefore the most likely step.
U.S. officials say momentum is building within the administration to ramp up those efforts even more, capitalizing on the strength of Kurdish and other Iraqi forces.
“I believe we will have an opportunity to reinforce Iraqi success in the days ahead,” Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joe Dunford told Senate lawmakers at a hearing on Tuesday.
Alright, so let’s see if we can untangle this. Washington intends to send in the Apaches to bolster Iraqi forces both Peshmerga and otherwise. Or at least that’s what it sounds like. The Pentagon is also considering the placement of American ground troops with “moderate” rebels and with the YPG in Syria.
As we’ve detailed extensively (and this isn’t exactly a secret), Iran effectively runs the Iraqi military via its various Shiite militia proxy armies. That’s not an exaggeration. As Reuters reported earlier this month, “the Fifth Iraqi Army Division now reports to the militias’ chain of command, not to the military’s, according to several U.S. and coalition military officials.” So when the Apaches and their crews aren’t supporting the Kurds, they’ll be openly supporting Iran-backed fighters.
Ok, fine.
Only that isn’t at all consistent with placing US ground troops with Syria’s “moderate rebels” like the Free Syrian Army because after all, they’re fighting the very same Iran-backed Shiite militias. So the US would be bolstering the militiamen in Iraq with Apache gunship support and then firing on those exact same militiamen across the border in Syria in support of the “moderate” rebels battling to oust the Assad regime.
It’s beyond absurd.
And then of course there’s the whole Kurd/Turkey problem. The US is, i) fighting alongside the Peshmerga in Iraq and intends to support them going forward with Apache helicopters, ii) paradropping guns and ammo to the YPG in Syria (as part of a ridiculous ruse that involves the largely made-up SAC mentioned above by WSJ), and now iii) may even send in ground troops to fight with the YPG. But Turkey just bombed the YPG yesterday. Additionally, the US is flying sorties from Incirlik which sets up the insanely ridiculous possibility that if the US embeds troops with the Syrian Kurds, US jets could be taking off from the same base as Turkish warplanes only the US warplanes would be supporting the YPG while Turkish warplanes bomb them.
So, yeah. This is should all go swimmingly.
Finally, there’s the possibility that if the US puts boots on the ground in Syria in support of the “moderate” rebels, those troops will be killed by Russia and Iran (which Dunford said on Tuesday likely has "more than 1,000 [soldiers] on the ground in Iraq [and] something less than 2,000 in Syria"), and with that, we close with several comments from Chairman of the Russian Upper House committee for foreign affairs, Konstantin Kosachev (via RT) and a few images:
Commenting on the potential involvement of US ground troops against ISIS in Iraq and Syria, Kosachev once again highlighted that, when it comes to Syria, the US-led anti-ISIS campaign is already violating international law. Potential troops on the ground, Kosachev believes, will further violate international regulations
“Any operations – air based operations, ground based operations – in Syria by American forces will be illegal,”Kosachev told RT, explaining that Washington has not been invited by Damascus to take part in military operation in a sovereign country.
“They will get trapped, they will get involved in this ongoing conflict and the consequences will be absolutely unpredictable,” Kosachev said, addicting that sending US troops into Syria would be a “big mistake.”
At the same time, Kosachev, stressed that Russia would not send ground troops into Syria.
“No ground operation is possible [in Syria], because that would inevitably involve Russia in the ongoing war,” the politician told RT.
"Only air strikes"?!
#RussianArmy column with Msta-B artillery passes #Latakia for the front.
via @Charles_Lister pic.twitter.com/spgJGEHjxS
— Julian Röpcke (@JulianRoepcke) October 28, 2015
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Leave it to u.s. war-mongers to destabilize every patch of ME real estate.
Clowms to the left of me jokers to the right here I am...
War is sometimes used as a cover for a big move in gold...not the reason, though. Simply the reason that will be given.
Iraqi forces capture Israeli Colonel leading ISIS terrorists:
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940730000210
i know thats my trusted news source
that and SNL
Just remind me one more time without checking with CNBC, why the US has been blowing up the Middle East for the last few years? I'm having trouble remembering where the US was attacked by the official armed forces of those countries. Was it Atlantic City? Maybe Lebanon's battleships hit Los Angeles? C'mon, a little help here. Don't give me that terrorist shit, because if a dozen US "militia" terrorists hit Iraq, their military wouldn't be bombing Atlanta Georgia over that, would they?
unpredictable consequences....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HE SAID THAT TO OBAMA!!!
THAT GUY CAN'T EVEN HANDLE PREDICTABLE CONSEQUENCES!!
I noticed Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joe Dumlord has all his arms, legs and head. Are we sure he's a real merican soldier?
GENERAL(LY) confused obama is at the controls rest easy western civilization he's gots it ...........
he's gonna give 'em bullets and everything ........
US needs to cover up something there... IDF soldiers etc... support of ISIS... they have something to hide and try and get out..
US Gov are lying bastards...
A nation just can't have a bunch of post collapse/depression unemployed males lingering around the country with nothing to do, they start to think about things dontcha know? Queu up the WAR.
"First of all, because NAFTA means jobs.
American jobs, and good-paying American jobs." Ridickulous Clinton
My God, what element is occupying the WH these days. The U.S. is the mad dog. The Fed is hijacked.
the chicago element is now in play .......
This is what I posted yesterday regarding a similar article on ZH:
What I see coming is the US embedding troops with the "opposition" (i.e. ISIS/ISIL) fighters and then covertly telling the Russians and Syrians that the troops are there. Therefore if Russian planes bomb those targets they will be attacking American forces.
This would be right in line with the kind of of duplicitous crap the US has pulled before. The only problem I see with this scenario is how the US justifies putting their troops in the same area as the supposed enemy - I'm sure their ministry of propaganda will figure something out though.
yes, its all about pointing the finger at somebody else, in the UK its described by ministers 'what does it matter if it's not following to the exact letter of the law'
What could POSSIBLY go wrong!?
The "leaders" of the USSA are completely insane, psychotic, dangerous and fucked up! They have hijacked this country and are ruining it by the day. We say radical terrorists hijacked Islam. Well, our insane sociopathic "leaders" and shadow government fucksticks have hijacked this country!
I'm FUCKING sick of it!
Somethings gotta give and I think it might be this country....
many or most of the Islamic terrorists weere organized and backed by the US, Saudis, and Israelis - the latter of whom engendered Hamas to split the Palestinians to avoid a 2 state solution and peace... and later, Shin Bet proxies kidnapped 3 Jewish colonists, killed them, then went on to murder over 1200 human beings.
All while tossing chum to the Fox News crowd about how over a billion Muslims were all batshit crazy, unlike the peace-loving, Torah following Israelis or sporadically "Christian" {or at least theist} Americans - both of whom have murdered more innocent people than has radical Islam.
But 'facts' tend to get in the way of good war propaganda, wot?
I'm FUCKING sick of it!
Somethings gotta give and I think it might be this country....
Then leave. Snowden and Gerrard Depardieue will welcome you open arms. The door will happily hit you on the ass...
You really are stupid rare.
yes false flag coming... A US ship or something is going down... US servicemen are best to mutiny now
If not, I am sure saudi arabia will be more than happy to do something in the name of making all those refugees look like terrzts that "hate our freedom".
honestly, has assad invited murica or what?
is it a plain invasion if muricas boots enter syria or did i miss something in the last 10 years?
i mean they are bombing in syria, on which decision?
because the US doesn't recognize the Assad regime, they don't have to ask permission to bomb Syria assets or to arm and support any group fighting the Assad regime.
it also explains why the US only pretended to attack ISIS, a group which the US had organized to join them in bringing down the Syrian regime.
then Putin showed the world how to seriously attack ISIS
Is all this stuff gonna affect Christmas shopping?
From PCR ( http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/10/28/fars-news-agency-reports-isra... )
FARS News Agency reports Israeli Colonel captured leading ISIL terrorists
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940730000210
No wonder "Just Us" and their minions spent 14 months jerking off to ISIL.
Not saying I don't believe (I tend to), but photos would go a LONG way to exposing the truth and establishing cred.
Give the bruises and cuts time to heal first.
Waterboarding would be tirture.
I say we continue wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Then immediately start a War in Syria. At the same exact time start a War with China over some man made islands. Then finally start a War in middle of winter thru Russia. While starting a New Years War with Iran. By spring maybe start a War with Sweden.
Makes you long for the days when we would only pick fights with military powerhouses like Grenada.
The US economy is continuing to deteriorate- See: David Stockman’s Contra Corner (link: davidstockmanscontracorner.com) for an excellent overview of current economic conditions in the US and worldwide. In response to our structural economic problems, US foreign policy has become increasingly bellicose and reckless. The US/NATO war theater extends from the Levant, to Caspian Basin, Persian Gulf, China Sea, Indian Ocean, Horn of Africa, the Maghreb, to Eastern Europe and Russian Border. Not only is this policy astronomically expensive for US taxpayers, it is extremely dangerous as it has created failed states in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen (Syria?) and led to the creation of ISIS/ISIL/Daesh. It appears that the US is upping the ante further, by i) openly threatening China by conducting naval naval incursions into waters near islands in the South China Sea claimed by China, and ii) conducting new military actions on Syrian territory, a clear violation of international law. Any war with China will likely be a war with Russia as well. Who knows, maybe this will be an excuse for the stock market to go up some more.
Yeah, sure... Up in smoke.
Be ready to bury your soldiers America.
The anglo-saxon zionist imperialist regime will assuredly lose. The military industrial complex is nothing more than another form of welfare for the military corporations. Russian military weaponry has proven itself vastly superior, and their strategical tactics are leaps and bounds more advanced than anything the US can ever think up. Russian electronic warfare will completely nullify all zionist circuitry, and the zionists would rack up death counts before anything was ever spotted. Of course, the zionist media would claim the opposite while its population dwindles down to nothing but mexicans, philippinoes, and blacks.
And as for china, they need do nothing but send their hypersonic weaponry at the bloated, oversized US navy, and watch the deatch count climb. For a good kick in the nuts, lob a few at Japan and wipe out tokyo. The dollar-yen carry trade will go down the toilet. The fed will have no recourse but to change its language to trillions and say everything is good as the american popululation wonders why walmart goes empty because no one can afford their 100 dollar keurigs.
Finally, for good measure, iran takes over saudi arabia, destroys its desalinization plants, and changesthe current princes' hobby from riding bmw suv's on two wheels to watching the world spin around and around for 4 minutes (the time the brain can live without oxygen). There goes the petro-dollar.
The fed now has to further change its vocabulary to quadrillions. the US government claims bankrupty, changes the federal reserves name to something magical like sparkly sparkly rainbow, and bring in a US reserve, and the show goes on like a bad furniture store that never goes away.
Regarding Japan, all China needs to do is attack the 50 of so Japanese nuclear power plants, then sit back and watch Japan glow in the dark with 50+ Fukushimas. Japan has made itself very vulnerable in a war. A side benefit for China is that the radiation will head straight for California.
All I know is if Russian missiles start coming down here in the US and our lives are ruined, then the idiots who decided it was "ok" to engage Russia in a war should be taken out and summarily executed. That goes for the politicians, generals and media lackey's who thought it was ok. You are genocidal maniacs. We will not endure the consequences of your death machine when the Russians call you out. We dont want a war with Russia or China we want peace and stability and we want to trade with them. If you cant abide by the US Constitution and our founding principles then you should be arrested as traitors and sent to the gallows. The Russian and Chinese people are not our enemies and they have shown nothing but restraint despite your repeated efforts to engage them. You have exploited our military and used our soldiers as fodder to further dreams of empire that is clearly collapsing. You have looted the treasury to fund and empire that is bankrupt. You are corrupt, rotted and we will not abide meddling that can result in a catastrophe for our country.
does this mean we won't be able to keep getting all the cheap crap from China??
if so ......i'll have to tell my uncle to sell the rest of his walmart stock
Bravo Praxis... bravo.
Praxis,
War, or not ... all of that needs to happen.
Extensive "spring-cleaning".
When the missiles start coming down it will be way too late for summary executions as most life will be extinguished.
God took six days to create the heavens and earth,,, His creation, Man, will destroy it in a few hours.
Well said.
"You have exploited our military and used our soldiers as fodder to further dreams of empire that is clearly collapsing. You have looted the treasury to fund and empire that is bankrupt. You are corrupt, rotted and we will not abide meddling that can result in a catastrophe for our country."
Good, praxis, but can do better. The minute you say you will not abide US meddling that can result in catastrophes for other countries, you will have achieved full human being status.
Bravo - Try getting THAT published in the CNN comments section !
Politicians running the military.
No wonder profits are up for all the defense contractors.
In the next version of the "Red Dawn" movie, the citizens will be running out and giving the Russian paratroopers candy, and hot coffee.
No matter how bad our gov't is in the US the Russians still are not welcome or our friends. Our gov't needs to be removed and replaced but by us, not by commies or any other foreigners.
How does DLM's comment warrant 14 down votes and 0 upvotes?
I don't get the convoluted lack of logic some people display here on ZH.
I agree our .gov has screwed the pooch, but like DLM, I don't welcome Russian invaders or Chicoms on the Potomac. I desire to see a popular (and well informed) uprising of The People. US.
edit: I upvoted it.
ANYBODY who throws a spanner in the works of the barbaric ZNWO plan - is a friend of MINE !
Americans you have the guns now grow some balls and kill all the traitors in Washington DC
So in Obama's eyes American troops are nothing but human shields. I have a hard time believing his agenda is simply building a pipeline after the removal of Assad. This latest move makes me believe he's looking for justification for outright war. Hopefully before the election I'm sure so he'll have reason to suspend elections and remain in power.
I have been hearing that shit, every election, since H.W. Bush.
War is a RACKET!! There is $$$ to be made...
Bring out the popcorn.
WWIII is right on schedule...
you really should do something about your stuttering ;-)
Oh yea...coming from someone who has impotence issues.
it was a fucking joke you moron... i'll say something serious later so you can compare the two, geez
Yea..the truth always hurts. Piss off jackass!!
2 weeks young... your (zh) voice hasn't even broken. come challenge me when your other testicle drops. need i say more?
"fuck off troll"
Was that an echo...oh, that was your infantile self a few pages down.
You whine like a bitch.
oh i see... that was a comment i made to one of your cock sucking troll mates wasn't it?!? you're one of those mother fucker bought-and-sold brainless douche bag trolls too aren't you?!?! how silly of me for missing that hahah :-D
fuck off troll! (...that was the serious comment son, so go ahead compare)
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Imagine being the troops assigned to that mission. Hey you guys are heading to Syria, we need you to go stand in front of that group of terrorists. Good luck and God speed.
Alphahammer wants everyone to spend a half hour doing some research into the origins of ISIS: http://bfy.tw/2VnO
I'm fucking sick and tired of our kids getting killed and maimed for the fucking ZWO. It has to fucking stop already!
I agree. Idiots are running this country into the ground and killing our kids in fucked up wars. All these guys have to do is read the Koran and they would realize this was all a mistake if they had a fucking brain in their head.
Doubling down in the face of a long string of failures doing exactly that policy is Hubris To The Power Of Dunning-Kruger.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/hubris-to-the-power-of-dunning-kruger/
We don't need to worry about the Russians, although much more focused than US policy, policies don't work because the tool of analysis doesn't allow it, it cannot be tied to external reality tightly enough.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/warning-ideas-are-dangerous/
Were we at all sane, we would abolish the military in the US immediately, including the NSA. The thing that makes this a particularly special insanity is the closeness of the cliff that nobody seems to notice.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/27/ignoring-the-absolutely-in...
so the u.s. is going to operate anti-aircraft missiles disguised as russian or chinese in origin, and blame isis on them. and then, for every aircraft or russian origin destroyed, they will stab a few isis people in the back and say , look! we got em!
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Maybe its worth considering jumping on board with China/Russia in developing eurasia over the next century, China exteded an offer of partnership to build the land bridge around the world, why not do it? China would like American Scientific involvement in the Helium-3 MoonShot, Just do it.
8 whole Apaches...who came up with that number...They will be rubble inside of a week.
Sadly, there are multi-millions of Americans that get their news from CNN or Faux who will be relieved and comforted that the US is doing something about whatever situation is presented to them. To them 8 Apaches will seem totally adequate as well as totally neccessary to bring the current situation to closure. In other news Halloween decor is 50% off at the dollar store, the World Series has begun, Thanksgiving is coming up sooner than you can think and Costco has Christmas items now in stock. I could suggest stocking up on ammo, food, heating supplies, medical etc. but that would make me a prepper which doesn't get much play in the general public either so other than checking ZH and comments I will remain in a wait/see holding pattern. Best advice during the unravelling is keep your back to the wind while taking a piss.
No, being a prepper makes you an enemy of the state.
US foreign policy goes full retard should be the title of the article.
When was the last time CONgress actually declared war? Like 1941?
Even then it was under bullshit circumstances.
I'll like to see, how YU-ASS wants to conduct grounds war in syria. Even when conducted with apache longbow helo's. Wanna bet syrian troops won't fire igla-s manpads? Or even ISIS (they got some igla from syrian army depo's.
And i will leaks, the YU-ASS troops position? To ISIS & Al-Nusra. See what happens next.
When will the hollywood makes another sequels to "blackhawk down"?? Probably now called "apache igla downed".
Bwahahahaha.,, bwahahahahahaha...
Geezz.. i wonder who's dogtag that would returns home (or lost forever, if they are beheaded).
And i wonder who's the "FOREIGNER TRAINER" that the russians bombs to smithereens??
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151017/1028670050/russian-jets-destroy...
Mmm... mmmm... mmmm... i love the smells of burning "foreigner trainers" in the morning...
Russia was invited in.
USA, not so much....
“Any operations – air based operations, ground based operations – in Syria by American forces will be illegal”
There it is, the pesky little fact that our government prefers to ignore and pretend does not exist. Syria has not invited us, nor are they a threat to our national security...violating their soveriegnty is an act of illegal war and those who order and support such nonsense should be impeached or imprisoned.
Just when you think there is a glimmer of hope that these maniacs in charge of our foreign policy have paused, they go full retard.
Why is this the business of the US?
don't knuckle under vlad and keep tweakin' the nukes.
Following Tribal orders.
When did Syria invite the Neo Con troops into their country?
The USSA doesn't consider President Assad and the elected government as the sovereign. They have chosen the FSA as the sovereign and the FSA has requested the help which in their (USSA) sick, demented little minds they have permission to make it legal.
One thing the USSA is good at is twisting the truth and the law or ignoring both.
“Any operations – air based operations, ground based operations – in Syria by American forces will be illegal”
There it is, the pesky little fact that our government prefers to ignore and pretend does not exist. Syria has not invited us, nor are they a threat to our national security...violating their soveriegnty is an act of illegal war and those who order and support such nonsense should be impeached or imprisoned.
Honest question:
If you asked the average American - and let's make him or her, reasonably educated and informed - but reliant on CNN, the Wa Post, maybe HuffPo...
what do you think *they* think the US is doing in Syria and why?
Typical response?
"Fightin ISIS for our Freedumbs and to dethrone the gas man Assad. If only Rusha weren't trying to start a world war cuz they wants to have a You Crain. Now scuse me. NetFlux is scheduled for my daily brain damage."
Not in defense of CNN (and no mention of Faux News? seems your bias is showing, again):
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/congresswoman-tells-truth-about-sy...
Made Wolf Blitzer squirm really, REALLY good!
Seer, thanks for the link! It really is too bad more of our "leaders/representatives" weren't like Ms. Gabbard! Sadly, she had best watch out for nail guns!
Oxymoron. You cannot be both reasonably informed and reliant on your information from the MSM.
Iraq has just ruled out any US participation in ground forces except for training. Guess that also puts paid to US ground forces in Syria too.
We are already in Syria. Obama refuses to claim Special Forces corpses killed in Russian attacks against Daesh. To take those bodies would admit the reality that everyone already knows. Daesh is Team Obama
God has abandonned us.
We are left with McCain.
It is punishment for our weakness and foolishness.
It would be an act of bravery if the enlisted would speak out.
If the US puts troops in with two groups in Syria, they will end up shooting at each other. ANY two groups, really doesn't matter. Or any three groups, or any six groups.
The time to act of course was before Russia showed up, we could have put 100,000 troops in there, cleaned it up in 90 days, then had a party. This isn't Iraq - but frankly Iraq shouldn't have gone on much longer than 90 days either, once the ball dropped. Anyway, now that Russia *is* there, we should negotiate a deal with them, partition the country, and kill anyone who disagrees. Easy-peasy. Unfortunately we won't do that.
Americans really need to start about some regime change. Not via elections, because we all know that's the just changing the deck chairs.
They'd like that. Then the gun grab would be unleashed.
Its the government. So its all legal like. Just ask them.
why is it so damn hard for you americans to stay in your own continent and mind your own business.. bomb your own cities and then rebuild them
A bit thick.
And we have Iridiumrebel...
Do not confuse neocons with Americans.
One is slave. The other is master.
Looking at Detroit, I think the first phase of your advice has been completed.
There's some interesting stories over on Sputnik news, not least Germany trying to mend bridges with Russia. But as said above:
Baghdad has not asked and does not need the United States to conduct ground operations against Islamic State in Iraq, Prime Minister Haider Abadi's spokesman said Wednesday.MOSCOW (Sputnik) — On Tuesday, US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said that the Pentagon had not ruled out conducting ground attacks against ISIL.
"This is an Iraqi affair and the government did not ask the U.S. Department of Defense to be involved in direct operations," Saad Hadithi told NBC News, adding that Baghdad had "enough soldiers on the ground."
Hadithi said the United States is required to coordinate through Baghdad any military activity in the country, including the airstrikes that an international US-led coalition is currently conducting against ISIL targets on Iraqi soil.
Boots on the Ground, But Details Still Unclear: Pentagon to Launch 'Direct Action' in Syria and IraqThe spokesman, however, admitted that US assistance was important to Iraq to arm and train its forces.
Some 3,300 US troops are currently deployed in Iraq to train local forces and protect US facilities, according to NBC News.
US forces and Kurdish militia last week carried out an anti-ISIL operation in northern Iraq. The United States did not inform the Iraqi government of its actions in advance.
They are trying to create a cover story for the "advisers" they have embedded with ISIS
When will a member of the American "press" ask Carter why we are in Syria and engaged in the international crime of invading a sovreign Country ?
For the seventh time since Obama became President.
Carter doesn't know. Have you heard him, he sounds brain damaged ?
I did not think it was possible for the US to double down on full retard until I read this.
Cheech, did you check the Twitter from this Julian Röpcke?
Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
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http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
http://bfy.tw/2VnO
Now that Turkey and Qatar are flying ISIS boys from Syria to Yemen Saudi has probably ordered up some US grunts to replace them in Syria. They can get chewed up by Hezbollah or beheaded by the remnants of ISIS or help Turkey finish off the Kurds......simply dope them up and they won't know which way to turn and can spin like Obama their C-in-C
Those aren't American Soldiers going to Syria. Those are Neo Con troops.
Thank you Putin for taking the moral high road and showing an example.
HA HA
MAKE JOKE
have potato
But here's the thing - what's weird is you and Teh Finn and Danepol seem to mostly appear to call people "trolls" and to zealously and blindly defend Israel.
so there's this strange phenomenon on ZH - the anti-Russian trolls and the Zionist trolls are largely the same.
and they are rooting against Christian Orthodox Russia, and *for* Salafist terrorist ISIS and Al Qaeda.
Which is strange, until you consider one thing:
http://bfy.tw/2VnO
:o}
Iraq just gave the finger to Ashton Carton...
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151028/1029236655/iraq-us-boots-on-t...
Baghdad has not asked and does not need the United States to conduct ground operations against Islamic State in Iraq, Prime Minister Haider Abadi's spokesman said Wednesday.All of this makes sense if you back up and look at what as been going recently.
The US appears to be trying as hard as possible to provoke Russia into a shooting war. They may succeed.
I'm sure the US believes that once our mighty heroes show up on the battlefield, the Russians will drop to the knees and begin crying like little girls. The reason for this is that idiots like barry and the Songbird of Hanoi don't know anything about Russian history or the character of the Russian people, and they don't believe the Russians can stand up to amerika's invincible imperial armies. A more important reason is that the US is run by psychopaths and retards.
The war, after "accidental" attacks on Russians and Syrian government forces, may likely expand rapidly and go nuclear within a short time window. I'm good with that.
There will never be a chance for peace as long as the US exists. Fortunately, Putin and Xi have the means to rid the world of the amerkan desease.
There is a Tsar Bomba in our future. Thanks barry!
You have spoken for thousand years:
'there will never be peace as long as the US exists'.
And it's still true.
I know Latvia isn't an English speaking country, but try to learn English grammar.
This world will fin peace after the US of A fights a war in his territory against a professional army. NOT BEFORE!
It's not the US that needs to go -just the zio-controlled government, media, academia and Wall Street. Once we get rid of the Orwellian Deep State that controls, the American people will come around. There will be much pain as waking up from being unplugged from the Matrix is not a pleasant experience. We will have to pay for our sins-but that cannot be avoided.
That.
another brillian idea from the boys at the Pentagon:
If American forces are imbedded with moderate rebels (how can an armed rebel be moderate?) won't the US army have to inform the Russians of the exact location of the rebels and the embedded US forces to prevent them from being killed by Russian air attacks?
If these moderate rebels were to call themselves the Sisters of Poor Clare, would the NYT and WSJ refer to them as such?
"how can an armed rebel be moderate?"
It's like being casually dressed. Moderately armed...
Criminal putin regime loosing ground - another hit in putins face:
Turkey initiates legal action against Russia’s GazpromTurkey has initiated court proceedings against Gazprom over gas prices, in the latest deterioration in relations between Moscow and Ankara following Russia’s decision to launch air strikes in Syria.
Turkish state-owned pipeline company Botas this week filed a case for international arbitration to seek a price discount for Russian gas supplies, Gazprom confirmed.
RUS https://youtu.be/dGyJgS751PU
Thread-jacking again, eh? Oh newsoutlet, you silly goose.
Reads like a dumb troll from sitting room of hundreds, who drank Latvian counterfeit vodka, and in a fit of delirium tremens imagines himself a large hedgehog.
Soon enough this asshole in Latvia will have to worry more about migrants outnumbering and outbreeding Latvians than attacking Putin on behalf of some foreigners who only see them as a tool with which to annoy Russia.
Maybe Latvia will get lucky and once it reaches peak migrant it will become a province of Russia...still outnumbered by Islam of course...
potato harvest over?
Hasn't Erdogan taken over CNN yet ? He's bumped off Serena Shim and Jacky Sutton and keeps so many journos in jail
Couldn't be about oil, could it? (NOTE: ALL WARS ARE ABOUT RESOURCES!)
Genies and Genocide: Syria, Israel, Russia and Much OilFirst appeared: http://journal-neo.org/2015/10/26/genies-and-genocide-syria-israel-russia-and-much-oil-2/
Ha ha ha - the Ruskies already have their first coffin coming back from Syria - first of MANY. Of course you'll never hear about that here on Putin Butt-slave Central. Here's what Bloomberg says:
There is a powerful reason President Vladimir Putin won't win Bashar al-Assad's war for him. As with Russia's limited military participation in the conflict in eastern Ukraine, Putin doesn't want casualties, because not even his powerful propaganda machine can conceal them.
On Tuesday, Russia acknowledged its first military casualty in Syria: Vadim Kostenko, a 19-year-old air force technician. The Defense Ministry, which flatly denied all previous reports of casualties, didn't volunteer the information. Instead, the Conflict Intelligence Team, a volunteer group run by the blogger Ruslan Leviev that scours social networks to track Russian military activity, discovered that Kostenko died Oct. 24.
Leviev's team used the same approach it has to track the Russian army's presence in Ukraine and the death toll there: It combed the social network for accounts of soldiers from units believed or reported to be involved in the action, and those of their friends. After discovering an epitaph for Kostenko, the team contacted his relatives and friends to confirm the death and discovered that a representative of Kostenko's unit had told his family that he had killed himself.
The Defense Ministry said Tuesday that data on Kostenko's mobile phone suggested he had a falling out with his girlfriend. Kostenko's parents and sister didn't believe it, though. They said he had been cheerful when he talked to them on the day he died and that he and his girlfriend had been doing great and been planning to get married.
The Defense Ministry's initial silence and the shaky suicide narrative indicate that Russian military officials are reluctant to recognize any deaths.
Way too long. I'm sure he/she has trolled before.
As for the death, that's what happens when you actually go into a war to accomplish victory. All we do is air drop tax payer funded ammo/weapons and train future terrorists as these cocksucker pols position to to take our ammo/guns away. We are slaves alright...
Didn't more US soldiers kill themselves than were KIA in Iraq or Afghanistan ?
Yes, because they realized what they had done.
And how many coffins does the US have coming back from Iraqi and Afghanstan?
Yes but they're usually filled with drugs
And how many coffins does the US have coming back from Iraqi and Afghanstan?
Not enough.
By law on the losses such data are classified.
Troll is so troll.
But here's the thing - what's weird is Yomatti, Teh Finn and Danepol seem to mostly appear to call people "trolls" and to zealously and blindly defend Israel.
so there's this strange phenomenon on ZH - the anti-Russian trolls and the Zionist trolls are largely the same.
and they are rooting against Christian Orthodox Russia, and *for* Salafist terrorist ISIS and Al Qaeda.
Which is strange, until you consider one thing:
http://bfy.tw/2VnO
You couldn't post anything to substantiate the ramblings from your fevered mind. Now get back to fapping over rus' imperial expansion and war for energy in the me.
OH wow.
Guess what though. Gloating over a dead soldier whose country has the balls to go and send terrorists to Hell instead of sucking them off makes you a diseased propaganda cunt.
its a lowlife troll thing.....
"only the weak are cruel" -Leo Buscaglia-
I understand your impotent rage, it pleases me even.
you're hilarious.
How can the US contemplate involvement in Syria when ISIS exists and is strong in Iraqi? How can
the US turn its back on the Kurds and let Turkey have there way and yet talk about Syria? I am open
to any sensible reason for this. I see none.
We don't need no steenkin' 'sensible reason'! We're 'Mericans! What are ya, some kinda commie?
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I have a suggestion.
Why don't we ask our dumbass vassals in Europe to supply the ground troops? Helping the US rampage around the mideast has worked out so well for the Europeans so far, I'm sure they would love to have their young people die fighting in the ME so they can get even more guests to settle in their country and never leave.
Think of how their GDP will grow. For example, think of the boom in the European construction industry ... because they will be building all those new mosques.
In a perverse way, this may ultimately be good for peace. As Europe is converted into a population of arabic speaking middle eastern folk, it will be a lot harder for the US to put together a "coalition of the willing" (i.e, a coalition of the willingly bought and paid for European politicians).
Another bad news for criminal putin regime trolls - may not receive their salaries.
Russia's Reserve Fund could run empty in 2016Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov prompted more concerns over the health of the Russian economy Tuesday when he said there was a danger that the country's vast Reserve Fund could be entirely exhausted in 2016 if oil prices stay at their current level.
He told members of the upper house of parliament that if oil prices stayed around the current level of just below $50 a barrel and the dollar exchange rate remained unchanged, the budget may fail to receive 900 billion rubles ($14.14 billion) in revenues, Russian news agency TASS reported Tuesday.
"Our reserves volume [in 2015] will decrease by approximately 2.6 trillion rubles ($40.85 billion) - more than half," Siluanov said, according to TASS.
"This means that 2016 is the last year when we are able to spend our reserves that way. After that we will not have such resources," he warned.
"If the current oil prices and exchange rates remain the same, and the current oil price is at around $44 per barrels for Urals, and the ruble exchange rate is about 62 rubles to the dollar, we can (see the budget) fall 900 billion rubles short. We really face such risks," the minister said.
Thank god you're here to bash Russia and Putin regardless of the article topic.
Because if you didn't do so, I don't know WHERE I'd go to find anti-Putin assessments.
Thank you - you provide a wonderful service, and I presume that being banned again shortly will not dissuade you from your Quixotic quest to distribute "the truth" to people who would otherwise never hear it.
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You're so funny. Potato to bring you?