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Australia Proposes Eliminating Passports. There's Just One Problem...

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Submitted by Simon Black via SovereignMan.com,

It wasn’t that long ago that you could travel from one corner of the world to another with nothing but your good looks.

There are people still alive today, in fact, who were born into a world where passports were not widely used for international travel.

The passport itself is a relatively recent invention, an unfortunate consequence of World War I. And they didn’t really become ubiquitous until the late 20th century.

Now, in many respects you can’t leave your own country without one, especially if you hail from the Land of the Free.

Americans are so ‘free’, in fact, that they can’t even go to Canada without forking over $165 to the government of the United States just to ‘apply’ for a little booklet that gives you the right to leave the country.

Passports are nothing more than a form of control— a way to obtain oodles of personal information and to restrict one of the most basic freedoms of humanity— the freedom to move.

Edward Snowden has been waylaid in Russia for more than two years because the US government rescinded his passport, effectively terminating his ability to travel anywhere.

I remember being in Africa a couple of years ago watching a herd of elephants in the wild continually cross the border in and out of Zambia and Zimbabwe near Victoria Falls.

While the elephants roam freely, we humans obstruct ourselves with imaginary barriers and demands for a bunch of silly paperwork, passports, and visas. Not exactly the pinnacle of civilization.

So you can imagine how excited I was when I read about Australia’s government announcing a program to eliminate passports. Incredible.

Then I saw the punch line— the idea is to eliminate physical passports. So instead of giving everyone these little colored booklets, they want to move passports ‘into the cloud.’

Hey, it worked for Microsoft.

The ‘cloud’, of course, is the technological Neverland where unicorns play, tech titans rake in record profits, and millions of gigabytes of data are stored.

The cloud is what makes it possible for you to store files on remote servers and access them across multiple devices (phone, tablet, laptop) over the Internet.

You might use Dropbox or iCloud, for example, both of which are popular cloud-based storage platforms. (Though I’d suggest switching to a more secure platform like SpiderOak or Tresorit.)

So now Australia’s government proposes moving citizens’ personal information into the cloud, with a pilot program to test travel between Australia and New Zealand with cloud-based passports.

It remains to be seen how it would even work once you arrive. Do you give a secret handshake? PIN code? Or do you get to bypass the immigration line altogether?

Probably not. Cloud-based passports would likely be loaded with all sorts of biometric data, facial recognition, etc.

And all of this data would be placed online in government databases. I mean, they might as well paint a bulls-eye on the server farm and hang a sign on it that says “Please Hack Me.”

In the black market, that kind of data is worth billions. And governments don’t exactly have a sterling track record of tip-top network security.

The Australian Government’s Cyber Security Centre released a report just a few months ago stating that government networks are attacked every day, and that cyber security incidents are up over 300% from 2011 to 2014.

Over the summer the US government embarrassingly admitted to a data breach that exposed over 20 million Americans, up from an initial estimate of 4 million.

If the thought of submitting to the indignity of biometric data and RFID chips on physical passports weren’t bad enough, the prospect of pushing all of that data online to be ‘safeguarded’ by government bureaucrats is simply agonizing.

Who knows if there’s any nefarious intent behind this. My guess is that a bunch of politicians are desperate to look smart and innovative, so they spout off some poorly thought-out idea that is even more poorly executed.

Small businesses that consistently fail with such bad ideas eventually go bankrupt.

Governments, on the other hand, get to paper over the consequences of their incompetence by printing money and indebting future generations.

They make egregious mistakes with people’s lives and livelihoods, in this case putting the private (even biometric) information of millions of citizens at risk.

And they’re never held accountable. Ever. Leaving them free to move on to the next bad idea.

Perhaps next time it will be implantable chips.

 

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Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:36 | 6728435 JustObserving
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So you will be able to pay a Russian or Chinese hacker to get Australian citizenship.  Only 23 million or so people in Australia.  What could go wrong?

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:46 | 6728484 goldhedge
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Any gov or company which puts their data on the cloud deserve to get hacked.

 

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:18 | 6728644 Beam Me Up Scotty
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Barcode on the forehead.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 23:56 | 6729377 Bemused Observer
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How about a USB port up the ass? Kill 2 birds with one stone...the body cavity search and the data retrieval.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 06:30 | 6729851 hansg
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A passport is not to leave your own country, it is to enter the next one. And I'm interested in hearing how a "virtual" passport will work for all those checkposts in the world that would still very much like to see a real physical passport. Especially those in parts of the world where electricity is still optional, never mind internet...

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 07:48 | 6729980 RabbitChow
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Maybe, but the US is the only country that excercises. No passport control. No stamp or anything. They have no idea who has left the country.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:49 | 6728778 crazytechnician
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Not if it was done with a private / public key using the BTC blockchain.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 01:25 | 6729578 Umh
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Take a guess at who spearheaded all of this encryption? Can you say NSA? I have a brother that thinks using a freely available VPN is secure. Have you considered that the NSA could be running these VPNs?

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 03:42 | 6729726 Ghordius
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yes.

but the main case for using VPNs is not the NSA

it's the 15-year old super-bright hacker that reads ZH or similar websites, believes some of the more hairy tales and wants to do something political, or the gang of hackers that wants to collect a new bundle of private informations to sell to another gang that specializes on cybercrime like "identity theft", and so on

I agree with the author, the idea is completely harebrained. a cloud version of a passport is one thing, but getting rid of the physical one... a recipy for getting in very stupid situations

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 13:09 | 6731470 fallout11
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The Snowden documents also hint at some extraordinary capabilities: they show that NSA has built extensive infrastructure to intercept and decrypt VPN traffic and suggest that the agency can decrypt at least some HTTPS and SSH connections on demand, at any time.
Also, NSA encryption trojan/backdoors have been included in every Microsoft supplied OS since Windows NT/ME (news articles on such date back to 1999).
Finally, the latest info is that the 
Diffie-Hellman key exchange has been broken, the cornerstone of modern VPN cryptography. They'be been spending over $1 billion a year on breaking cryptography for years. 
https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/haldermanheninger/how-is-nsa-breaking...

 

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 00:56 | 6729512 uhland62
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Except it's one of the sheeple who is stranded, not the government! One hacker alters one digit in your profile and there you are, can't go forward or backward. The few individuals who are authorised to let you through are easily bribed to let crims through, too!!!

My fellow Australians are sometimes very naive. I think Julie Bishop fell for the sales spiel of a cloud master. I thought, she'd be more intelligent. 

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:06 | 6728597 lesamourai
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Australians. Lab-rats for the NWO. 

Try it in Australia first.  If it works, roll it out elsewhere.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:47 | 6728772 JuliaS
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What else would you expect from a British prison colony.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:56 | 6728814 Motasaurus
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We're more British than the English are.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:49 | 6728990 monk27
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That might be true, alas it doesn't seem to make you any smarter...

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 00:14 | 6729421 Government need...
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And the Aussies also seem to have the same . . . great looks as the Brits.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 07:19 | 6729931 Perfecthedge
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Don't you dare! I love the girls on the Abbywinters website (all Aussies - NSFW!)

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:55 | 6728803 Motasaurus
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Lab rats? Australia /is/ the NWO. One day the world will look like us. People so dependent on their government that they beg them to impose more restrictions.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:51 | 6729000 monk27
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Your NWO looks the same as the old "socialist" camp. Many Chinese and East Europeans are having a good laugh these days...

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 23:21 | 6729274 Motasaurus
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When the nukes fly, only Australia will be left. Why else do you think we've been allowed to be so sparesly populated for so long?

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 10:30 | 6730650 Amicus Curiae
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yeah , sort of..if you assume we manage to knock out incomings..

beacuse pine gaps a big fat target and so is the headland facility

but yes it does seem we have a whole lot of refuges in place set up BY OS rich as a run to bolt hole

Tassie being a top favorite.lotsa govvy lots greentards pushing  locals out, ready for the noveau inrush

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 22:49 | 6729189 crazytechnician
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"beg them to impose more restrictions."

- At which point you realise you 'are' the government.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 23:23 | 6729279 Motasaurus
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No Australian, no matter how brainwashed, believes the "are" the government. That's why voting was made mandatory. It was too obvious when only 5 people showed up at election day.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 01:15 | 6729557 uhland62
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You are very mistaken that this should have a base in the people. We have not been asked.

We do not get asked even when we stand our our heads and scream. We have not been asked if we want TPP and now that it looks like we are forced into it, we don't get to know what awaits us.  We have not been asked if we want Marines in Darwin and if we want to pay them. We do not get asked if we want F-35s. Please do not confuse what the government wants with what the people want. 

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:11 | 6728610 Kirk2NCC1701
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What could "go wrong"?  Well, one if not THE Intended Consequence is...

They hit the "Delete" or "Deny Entry", or "Deny Exit" on your cloud-file.

w/o a Hard-copy in hand, you are a farm-captive, little sheep.  You can't even travel from country to country, when outside your home-country.

"PAYPERS PLEEZ!"

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:51 | 6729001 silent one
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It will also be connected to your 'bank' account and so in denying travel they will deny you your funds

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 10:35 | 6730679 Amicus Curiae
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one good CME and global satellites fried, cloud and other servers screwed in a flash

likely?

VERY!

like today a HUGE cme and it was on the far side of the sun and still affected us..and ongoing

IF that was a highXclass as it seems to have been but facing us..

oops lotta global biz crashes down HARD!

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:13 | 6728622 Id fight Gandhi
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They make every regular citizens a suspect then turn around and let floods of Syrians by the train load daily into Europe.

Completely baffling how govt works.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:22 | 6728661 Jeffersonian Liberal
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Not baffling at all, if you start with the presumption that the eventual goal of all the NWO-minded world leaders is to destroy their own nations to the point that the citizenry demands their "leaders" abolish their nations and join the global governance.

Start there, and everything these tyrannical fucking traitors is doing makes perfect sense.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:11 | 6728870 logicalman
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Funnily enough, I said almost exactly the same to a friend of mine about an hour ago.

Destruction of society is the goal of the evil fucks running the place.

Bomb the shit out of a place to destroy society there and then use the exodus of people trying to avoid having the shit bombed out of them to destroy the societies they run to.

What better way to bring forth NWO than the destruction of societies?

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 23:46 | 6729354 palmereldritch
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The weaponization of human migration (i.e. massive 'uncontrolled' illegal immigration) as seen coming in overwhelming waves from Mexico and South America into the US and from the ME into Europe is part and parcel of this quite intentional social engineering of societal collapse.

Cattle don't need borders, only corrals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGlvNt-N140

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 10:40 | 6730714 Kirk2NCC1701
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+10 for "The weaponization of human migration (i.e. massive 'uncontrolled' illegal immigration)".

I may have to borrow this expression, sen~or palmeldritch.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:17 | 6728886 silent one
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Quote "the eventual goal of all the NWO-minded world leaders is to destroy their own nations"

TRAITORS COMMITTING TREASON

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:56 | 6728812 mr speed
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How do governments work??   Go to imf.org, click on countries, click on your country then read the "article mission statements" and their reccommendations for that particular country. Take note of what the imf  reccommend the country's govt does and then notice all the politicians come out and try and sell us these reccommendations. Our countries creditors tell us what to do because "he who controls the money controls the country".

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 23:34 | 6728815 JuliaS
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EU is currently testing a passport-free system. The biometrics are stored in a cloud of angry migrants crossing over from Turkey. Most of the data is virtually irretrievable and is safely encrypted in Arabic.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 10:39 | 6730710 Amicus Curiae
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:-) ;-) ++++  good one.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 06:09 | 6729834 Tarshatha
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"What could go wrong?"

That is exactly the first thing that came to my mind.

European invasion 2.0 moved down under.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:37 | 6728445 Nostradumbass
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Insist on paper passport if one is required. Submit no biometric information to The Beast.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:39 | 6728455 BarnacleBill
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I wonder if this would mean a passport-holder could never renounce his citizenship...

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:42 | 6728458 Surrealist
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Cloud passports were already being reported in June 2015:

http://www.themandarin.com.au/39720-cloud-passport-wins-dfat-innovation-...

 

Passports in the cloud? What could possibly go wrong?

http://www.zdnet.com/article/passports-in-the-cloud-what-could-possibly-...

 

Click on image to see full article…

The Emerging ‘Mark of the Beast’ System: Sleepwalking into the Surveillance Society

http://newworldorderwatchblog.blogspot.com.au/2015/04/the-emerging-mark-...

 

 

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:18 | 6728632 Kirk2NCC1701
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Has the appropriate Hidden App* been turned on yet on the iPhones or iWatches?

Or will Apple come out with a new product line: Biometric Implants -- iBot.

Maybe Intel will change its motto from "Intel inside" to "Big Brother inside".  They might as well, to have "truth in advertising".

 

* If they ask you to download the new Passport App, it doesn't mean that you're actually "downloading" it.  It's already there.  They are simply moving the App into the open -- with you "permission".  As if they really needed it.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:35 | 6728724 BarkingCat
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You do know that "Intel Inside" is a very honest statement.
Intel for Intelligence Services.
So they are constantly telling you that their products spy on you.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:32 | 6728913 silent one
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The zdnet link is automatically forwarded past the link  http://www.zdnet.com/article/passports-in-the-cloud-what-could-possibly-... (for me at least, using opera)

A case of 'nothing to see here, now move along'

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:41 | 6728460 FIAT CON
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The level of stupid ideas .gov officials come up with floors me.

A good hacker could be anyone he wants to be from any country

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:44 | 6728475 Nostradumbass
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The level of stupid ideas .gov officials come up with floors me.

See the thing is, it is probably not a stupid idea at all but rather a malevolent one. That is how the powers that shouldn't be work.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:04 | 6728589 TheReplacement
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^ This

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:45 | 6728763 techpreist
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If we're talking about the Deep State, yes.

If we're talking about the puppets/lower level politicians, the stupid is breathtaking. They really do believe what they are told.

On the edges of the two, we have psychopaths with more power than brains like John McCain or Nancy Pelosi.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:38 | 6728731 BarkingCat
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Does not need to be a hacker. Government uses lots of vendors for their IT services. Many of these companies have Indian H1B1 workers.
What possibly could go wrong??

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:41 | 6728462 taopraxis
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Give the authorities what they want...nothing.

If the governement wants you to buy a passport to travel, search you when you cross the border, make you wait in long lines, ask highly personal questions, rifle your luggage, confiscate pieces of your property, and shake you down, then they are expressing a fear that by traveling you going to hurt someone. So, do not travel. Do not buy a passport. Do not go to Canada or the islands or wherever. Do not buy goods that will be taken away. Do less, even nothing at all, if possible. When the economy justs stops, the authorities will have what they want: Nothing.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:43 | 6728471 cigarEngineer
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Skydive out of a private plane before it lands for mandatory customs check.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:57 | 6728543 l8apex
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An hour or two at customs isn't going to stop me from spending 6 weeks in Bangkok.  You stay home.  I'm going to party.  

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:05 | 6728594 taopraxis
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I do not need to leave home to party...my whole life is a party.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 05:31 | 6729799 WOAR
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Maud Pie agrees.

Life is all about rocking out.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:07 | 6728480 nmewn
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Confiscate guns, cloud passports and your hard, cold cash digitized...all for government's convenience.

What could possibly go wrong?

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:19 | 6728647 Kirk2NCC1701
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Uhm, dunno, just spit-balling here...

PRISON PLANET?

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:40 | 6728744 nmewn
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lol...I knew what it was all about when I was very very young, way before the internet.

I had good parents, was (and am) a student of history, of sociopaths and their tendencies ;-)

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:44 | 6728761 zeroaccountability
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Going out on a limb there, are you, Kirk?

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 11:05 | 6730874 Kirk2NCC1701
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LOL. 

I see that sarcasm is still under-appreciated, judging by your votes?  ;-)

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:49 | 6728510 thesonandheir
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Perhaps next time it will be implantable chips.

 

I would put my house on it. You can imagine turning up at the hospital in the ambulance and as soon as a nurse comes out she scans your arm with a reader, it beeps to say it has registered and then beeps again to say 'this guy has not paid his social security charge so no healthcare for him'. 

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:56 | 6728532 Bunga Bunga
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Handheld DNA-Readers! Hitler's utopia comes true.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:23 | 6728663 californiagirl
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Passports already contain RFID chips.  I read somewhere that they are scannable from 30 feet away.  And many airports are putting on luggage tags with RFID chips.  I think Las Vegas is one of the airports doing this.  People are already voluntarily injecting RFID chips for medical and security purposes. I think there is funding buried in the Obamacare bills for the medical applications.  Can you immagine if you have a chip that dispenses medication and someone hacks it and causes an overdose.  Or what about a X-20 solar flare or some other type of electronic glitch that damages the chip.  Perhaps you would get your critical medication. It is not mandatory yet to inject these chips, but I expect it will be soon, maybe in some of the crazier EU countries like Sweden.  Then people can run around using their RFID chips to infect computer networks, among other nafarious actions.  It has already been done.  http://www.businessinsider.com/microchip-implants-in-healthy-people-2014-7

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:00 | 6728821 lincolnsteffens
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When you leave home with any encoded ID, credit card, or passport you should use foil compartments or aluminum foil around them.

Nothing like wearing a tin foil hat too. ;>)

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:46 | 6728971 californiagirl
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I have an RFID passport cover and purchased them for my parents as well.  I also have 2 small RFID-proof metal wallets for all the cards.  Been using them for about 5 years, ever since my regular grocery store installed RFID scanners and then had a major skimming incident that resulted in over ~$400,000 being removed from their customer's bank accounts. Several banks already started sticking chips into my cards a while ago. I even have a Faraday box for my smartphone when I don't want to be bothered with it or microwaved, as having my DNA unzipped is not on my bucket list.  The box works well.  My good friends and family have my land-line home and work numbers and know they can always call me there in an emergency.  Otherwise, I see no reason to have the phone on all night, or turning on by itself and making sounds/light in the middle of the night.  I don't want to be woken up by some trivial text message some insomniac sends me.  And I keep a small piece of Tesa non-residue opaque tape over my selfie-facing camera lense on the phone.  I do not have a narcissistic need to take selfies or have them on a cloud server to be hacked and my family and friends have been told to never post my photos online, especially on Facebook or SnapChat.  On the rare occassion I want to actually use that selfie lense, I can just peel off the tape and put on another piece.  I certainly am not a terrorist and would never physically harm anyone except in a case of self defense, though Homeland Security and the NSA may beg to differ because I read this website and because of the negative commentary I write in emails regarding government and bankster actions.  Heck, I live in California. As a business owner, there is a lot to complain about the government in this state!  Doesn't hurt to be cautious, unless caution is also now considered "terrorist" activity by the government.

http://www.amazon.com/FawkesBOX-Smart-phone-Faraday-Cage/dp/B00QQUQTV2

http://www.amazon.com/Elixir-Aluminum-Credit-Wallet-Blocking/dp/B00AUKYNS0

http://money.cnn.com/2014/06/06/technology/security/nsa-turn-on-phone/

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/416066/how-terahertz-waves-tear-apa...

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=19687

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:00 | 6728823 conscious being
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Transhuman engineering can eliminate any of your human qualities that are annoying or unnecessary for the big boss man. You can become part human, part mushroom. Nano particles have been constructed, that like DNA, self-organize. You don't even have to know you are getting dosed. It could be the vaccine. It could fall from the sky and drift on the wind like dust.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 22:05 | 6729055 californiagirl
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Perhaps from one of those aerosol nano vaccines that Bill Gates is funding.  Goes straight through your skin and into your bloodstream. They won't even have to pass laws to force us to take our mandatory injections of aluminum nanoparticles, Thimerasol mercury and squalene nuerotoxins. Funny how in California after they passed the Merck bill forcing mandatory vaccine for all heathcare workers and school attendees, they increase to list of vaccines to 53.  Heck, I think there were less than 15 when I was a kid.  I did make the mistake of taking a flu short back in the late 1990s once, when companies paid for Big Pharma inection parties on their premises to make it more convenient for their employees to be innoculated.  I was violently ill for 3 weeks, and that was we were getting ready for an IPO.  Even had to come in once but had to be driven home again when my temperature shot up to 104.  Never took another shot after that.  IT set up computer access at my house and staff drove physical paperwork back and forth to my house.  Uhhhg!  At least that was not as bad as when my Assistant Controller and I had out lives threatened by an employee we terminated (for poor performance) and we had to have armed security guards at all entrances and escorting us for 2 months.  The boring life of a CPA!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25875257

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 11:20 | 6730902 Kirk2NCC1701
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Zi-Borgs*.  The next step in human evolution?

* "Nanotech inside"

 

p.s. to CaliforniaGirl re her above comment (Thu, 10/29/2015 - 22:05 | 6729055)... I rather suspect that TPTB don't mind dissent being blogged, and in fact love it -- as it gives them a wormhole into your mindset, plus enables them to trawl for new ideas in new heights/depths of totalitarianism.  This is far more accurate and efficient than the old Communist method of suppressing dissent, and then having to pay to spy on its people.  The 'democratic' system is quite clever and devious that way:  Just let the people 'think' they have freedom, and they will readily tell you what they think and where they stand.  Effin brilliant!

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:30 | 6728871 Nostradumbass
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If by some freak 'accident' your passport should get into a microwave oven and the oven timer is then set for no more than 5 seconds and START button pressed, you will hear a pop! And if you are watching, will see a flash. If your passport is microwaved for more than 5 seconds, it might have scorch marks afterwords. Unfortunately, the RFID chip will be ruined so you should immediately contact the US Customs Dept. for a replacement - /s

Said altered passport still allows you into and out of US and into other countries. For now.

Don't ask me how I know this.

EDIT: 3 seconds should suffice

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 22:51 | 6729197 Lyman54
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You don't even have to use a microwave.  Just rub a strong magnet over it a few times.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 01:13 | 6729552 Nostradumbass
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I will look into this method for disabling the RFID chip. If it does work, even better.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:44 | 6728979 silent one
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The BORG are coming

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:50 | 6728511 InanimateCarbonRod
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You have freedom to move within the boundaries of your society/state. For you to move into another area/sphere of influence, you should be taken for the stranger that you are and subject to whatever crazy ID system that they wish to use.  What?  Don't like it?  Then don't go.

Is a cloud based passport system a good idea?  Probably not.

But at least they're not advocating laser bar codes on our bodies...yet.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:58 | 6728554 FIAT CON
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Im not so sure your free to move within your own country freely.

 What about those border patrol checks I have herd about that are 70+ mile north of the US border.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:31 | 6728699 flyingcaveman
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Just answer "what difference does it make?"  when they ask you if you are a US Citizen and they'll chuckle and send you on your merry way.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:48 | 6728775 zeroaccountability
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Nice 'barcode' on your avatar!

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:08 | 6728857 lincolnsteffens
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If you are a state National and or natural born human legally in the united states of America you are legal. On the other hand if you are outside the territory of the USA or its territories you will need proof that you have a right to enter. The idea you need any proof of who you are to leave this country is absurd as long as you don't care if you can get back in.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:03 | 6728579 iClaudius
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The barcode is your DNA.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:08 | 6728601 TheReplacement
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Still don't get it?  This plan is designed to fail so they can solve that problem with precisely the kind of solution you mention.  I suspect it would be more along the lines of RFID so you can be scanned passively wherever you go and be observed in whatever you do.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:50 | 6728512 InanimateCarbonRod
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You have freedom to move within the boundaries of your society/state. For you to move into another area/sphere of influence, you should be taken for the stranger that you are and subject to whatever crazy ID system that they wish to use.  What?  Don't like it?  Then don't go.

Is a cloud based passport system a good idea?  Probably not.

But at least they're not advocating laser bar codes on our bodies...yet.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:53 | 6728526 FIAT CON
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I'm all for sandcastle building in the middle of the Pacific, Where I can have My own island/country, my own .gov that respects peoples privacy and peoples rights with sound money and a peaceful small population. Oh wait I would also need a Nuclear Sub to stop the USSA from trying to overthrow me.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 19:58 | 6728539 rsnoble
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It is rather crappy to think you just can't get up and leave and go where you want without having to deal with a bunch of stupid gov't assholes.

On the flipside, do I want just anyone allowed in my country? Fuck no.

Perhaps you know you're not a terrorist, but who decides you aren't?  Unless the whole world is on the same page it's hard to get around the argument that passports aren't good.  As it stands now, going to another country is like going to another planet.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:03 | 6728584 JailBanksters
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Passports are for herd Kontrol und Money Maker.

Where as Visa's are purely a money making scam, it does absolutely nothing for security.

 

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:18 | 6728642 TheReplacement
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Hmm, the Russian visa process seems to be fairly effective.  Most of their terrorism comes from CIA/Saudi operations in Chechnya/Dagestan.  I can't think of an incident where someone entered from a foreign country on a visa and committed an act of terror in Russia.  Can you?  On the flip side, once you have a visa, travel in Russia is as easy for you as it is for Russian citizens.  Hell, you even use the same customs lines as they do when entering the country with a polite, "For you my American friend, any line you wish." when you ask the ridiculously hot security agent where to go. 

Coming back and entering the US via Boston Logan was not like that.  As an American citizen I was made to wait in a stuffy corridor with all the other passengers before being herded along through three checkpoints of "Papers please.", luggage scanning, retina scanning, and having to answer questions about declarations and such.  I wouldn't be surprised if there passive body scanners as well.  What do we have to show for this?  All our newsworthy terrorist attacks in the last 15 years have been committed by foreigners, inlcuding Chechens.  *Assuming you still believe the official narratives*

Land of the Free, my ass.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 22:45 | 6729180 Lyman54
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We had to stop at Houston for a 4 hour layover on the way to Mexico.  We had just disembarked from a plane and were in another long security line up, at least 1500 people waiting to clear customs for nothing as nobody was entering the US just tranfering planes.  A bunch of Brits behind me were complaining of the long line up and one remarked that we should be thankfull for the security.  I turned around and said that one hand grenade would kill 1/2 a dozen and would wound twice that amount and this was nothing more than a show of power by brain dead civil servants.

There was a good 20 feet separating us from the rest of the crowd after that.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:05 | 6728586 Shumbies
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Name me one instance where the govt ESPECIALLY the Australian govt hasn't come up with an ill thought out, hare brained, woefully implemented idea that caused more harm that good with its unintended consequences. When are these people going to realise, if it's on a network, you may as well publish it in the public domain.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:11 | 6728611 Nostradumbass
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unintended consequences

intended consequences - fify

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:13 | 6728875 Shumbies
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Snap! Not such a "...dumbass" after all.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 22:33 | 6729142 BarkingCat
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If they wanted to make it secure they need to use the vendor that specialize in their public system.
The data will be unsecured and unencrypted but no one will be able to get to it anyway.

/sarc. (For those who are sarcasm challenged)

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 10:56 | 6730807 Amicus Curiae
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honestly?

can NOT think of ONE example at all.

sad innit;-(

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:11 | 6728595 Skiprrrdog
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Cloud storage...on paper a very innovative technology. But now, today, with *my stuff*... with the government(s) in complete cotrol, never going to happen. I think the whole 'server gate' debacle with Hitlery serves as a shining example of why our government is not now, has never been, and will never be smart enough, honest enough to to have such an enormous window into our lives. Ill drone my own ass before I let that happen...

 

...oh, and $165.00 to go to Canada? I think the gubmint needs to step back from the crack pipe for awhile. You would have to pay me twice that, to get me into Canada...

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:53 | 6728802 logicalman
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I was just wondering.

Where would you go for free?

I was born in UK and live in Canada.

The last time I travelled I pretty much had to get home via USA.

Next time I have to travel, I'll pay whatever it takes to avoid the place.

JFK to LaGuardia with a 9 hour stop over - practice for if I go to hell.

UK's bad enough, but still better than the Land of the Fee.

 

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:17 | 6728635 Steaming_Pile
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I couldn't agree more with the author of the article.  Animals are more free than people are!  Some fucking civilization we've become, eh?  More like Slavilization if you ask me.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:44 | 6728757 rwe2late
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 and like

the carryover of serfdom in Europe

when the peasants were "free" but were tied to the land

and had to serve the Lords of the manors who ultimately owned the land.

"nation-states" now serve the same purpose on a larger scale,

with the "citizens" who "belong" to the nation (i.e. its rulers).

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 22:36 | 6729146 BarkingCat
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Don't you mean Slavelization?

I do not think every place is becoming Slavic.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 20:48 | 6728776 logicalman
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It's all fucking lunacy.

Do you know that your birth certificate is not a valid form of ID?

But all the 'valid' ones are pretty much based on it, and heresay.

There's a bond tracking number on your birth certificate - you are the colateral for your country's currency.

 

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:01 | 6728828 hannah
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this whole story is pointless. india already does all the tax returns for the world. the 'hackers' already have access to FUCKING EVERYTHING....! just buy it from the indians....

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:09 | 6728860 AUD
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At the airport here in Australia, you'll get a dude who looks suspiciously like Osama Bin Laden give you a pat down, or test your hands for explosive residue.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:23 | 6728907 ForTheWorld
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The crazy thing is that the private companies that are used to provide the labour are scraping them from the very bottom of the barrel, and if one guy is fired, they'll just go work for another company (run by a cousin) who will be subcontracted by the first company, and they'll be right back in the same position within a month. I have seen this first hand.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:14 | 6728878 Atomizer
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Another surge of illegal aliens will hit Australia. Removing the Passport and Visa requirements (Business/pleasure), will grant a longer undocumented stay.

A long time ago, was going to leave US and become a British citizen. I saw the the immigration gimmicks. Remained a United States of America Citizen. We all get smarter by the day. We will stop this bullshit within. 

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:18 | 6728891 ali-ali-al-qomfri
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if I get a chip it'll go right next to the other one on my shoulder, go ahead and knock it off see what happens....

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:33 | 6728944 Atomizer
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Not recommended! 

Place your passport in the microwave. Watch the chip burn to a crisp. I have a leather case which blocks the passport transmitter from hacking fans. Google passport chip frequency. 

Reminds me when I tormented new mobile phone users who kept the bluetooth signal on. I was a bad..bad boy when younger. 

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:32 | 6728940 rejected
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All I hear about these days is that cloud shit... They did it at work and its been a disaster,,, slow,,, errors,,,

but hey, Its the cloud

Damn Internet is crappy and risky enough, now they want to really screw it up. In ten years the internet will be history.

But it'll be easier to spy on your butt.


Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:56 | 6729019 Atomizer
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Johnny Mnemonic days are heading to a theater near you. I will reside within the 80% in the darkweb. Fuck the Marxist whores disquising themselves as the freemarket bailout solution. 

Johnny Mnemonic operate Keira Knightley 01 rev ...

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:59 | 6729033 Nexus789
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Hardly think they are Marxist old chap. More corporatist whores verging on facist.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 22:21 | 6729116 Atomizer
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I'm not going to bicker with you. European Union is a joke and czars installed within Obama is a hard laugh. 'ism' is what pisses off. 

How's Tony Blair doing? Is he on suicide watch list? 

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 23:00 | 6729218 PoasterToaster
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I don't see any difference between any of them.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 11:39 | 6731056 Kirk2NCC1701
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Aside from being a perpetual source of income for companies like Apple, Google and HP, the "Cloud" lends itself perfectly as the ultimate Big Bro system:

> With the vast data gathered, they can create a Virtual World, where they can "time-travel", to recreate any event anywhere.

> You think that those hi-power Video Cards are truly being used for Crypto-Coin mining?  LOL.  Yeah, right.  Try: Image Processing for real-time Face Recognition in public places (streets, subways, airports, intersections, stores, lobbies, smart-phones...).  The real clue is the fact that in all animals with eyes, a significant part of their brain is devoted to Image Processing.  Check out the size of the Visual Cortex in humans.

"I knew you'd be surprised!" -Zappa

The rabbit hole goes much deeper than the sheeple even imagine.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:45 | 6728980 Anonymous User
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We saw how well it worked for those celebs having their smut in the cloud. If you forgot about it or just want some eye bleach, be my guest:

 http://www.thepornster.net/search?search_query=celebrity&search_type=pho...

 

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 21:57 | 6729023 Nexus789
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RFID chip up your arse.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 22:21 | 6729114 Latitude25
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Your passport data is already in the cloud.  Last week I came in from S America.  My passport was swiped on a reader and I'm quite sure that loads of my personal data was there in front of the agents eyes to see.  That being said, I will never submit to an implant.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 22:32 | 6729136 Lyman54
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Australia is a complete joke.  They banned crossbows a while back and there is talk of registering knives.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 22:42 | 6729163 9D382a4-114dk19
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Folks love to decry government as coercive in its essence.  But does anarchism really offer a better life?  

If not, then one must be prepared to acceptive a certain amount of government control of one's life.

 

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 22:58 | 6729214 PoasterToaster
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Obviously not understanding "anarchy".  Anarchy means no archons.  Not no order.  But then, that's always been the lie told by the slavemaster, hasn't it?

Master loves you.  Master provides all.  You cannot live without Master.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 23:13 | 6729251 9D382a4-114dk19
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Nope, you need to get a dictionary and read it. 

an·ar·chy ?an?rk?/ noun  
  1. a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority. "he must ensure public order in a country threatened with anarchy" synonyms: lawlessness, nihilismmobocracyrevolutioninsurrectiondisorder,chaosmayhemtumultturmoil
    "conditions are dangerously ripe for anarchy"  
    • absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as a political ideal.
Fri, 10/30/2015 - 05:21 | 6729790 Fractal Parasite
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The opposite of satanic government is humanist government, not anarchy.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 23:02 | 6729225 Lyman54
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Growing up in the 1960's would be called anarchist compared to today.  I bought my first rifle when I was 12 ( a .303 Lee Enfield ) and would walk down the county road 4 miles to shoot it at the local rifle range.  Nobody gave me a second look.  Now, in the same area, hunters putting cased rifles into cars are reported to the RCMP even though they broke no law.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 11:49 | 6731106 Kirk2NCC1701
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Yup.  A few years later, I'd take my .22 and cross Hwy. 9, to shoot in a Peel County forest for fun. 

Nobody paid attention.  A white teenager with a rifle?  Yeah, so what!  Try that today.

Canada went downhill when they loosened their Immigration laws, that no longer had strict Merit requirements.  Instead of getting skilled craftsmen, tradesmen and professionals from Europe (fairly homogeneous culture and values), they got non-skilled layabouts and drug dealers from the tropics and other hot climates -- thanks to the damn Commonwealth obligations: i.e. "If the UK had to take them, then by Jove so would its ex-colonies Australia and Canada!"

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 23:02 | 6729226 Paveway IV
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"...Folks love to decry government as coercive in its essence.  But does anarchism really offer a better life?..."

I'm not sure, but at this point I'm willing to give it a try. Hell, how much worse could it possibly be? 

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 23:11 | 6729247 Lyman54
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Exactly Paveway..  This particular frog has been boiled long enough.

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 23:14 | 6729257 9D382a4-114dk19
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Show me a present-day or historical anarchist society that works.  

Thu, 10/29/2015 - 23:22 | 6729276 Peterus
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Medieval Iceland. Or just general international caravan trade at that time. Completely unregulated from the top down - but with quite a bit of self-regulation that came from customs, mutual arrangements and reputation to do what the law of a sovereign does in the usual circumstances.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 01:11 | 6729548 wow thats crazy
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I bet the government password for the cloud server will be!

qwert12345

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 01:20 | 6729570 darteaus
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So, no guns, no cash and now no passport.

Serfdom is almost here.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 06:20 | 6729666 roddy6667
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Electronic passports are the easiest to forge. It is 100% accurate. Hackers demonstrated how they could read the passport of a person walking by, and duplicate it. It took them a few seconds.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/03/german-hackers-clone-rfid-e-passports/

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 03:50 | 6729730 Debugas
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the article is misleading

 

Passsports are nothing more but an ID card

everything else is what government uses them for - to control the population etc

even without the passports all the restrictions would still apply

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 04:05 | 6729743 Debugas
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there is one apsect of biometric identification vs passport ID:

passport ID can be changed (theoretically at least) whereas once biometric keys are stolen YOU CAN NOT CHANGE THEM and they are stolen for good

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 18:07 | 6732531 Hope Copy
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Reminds me of the troubles that can be had  of being of an unregistered birth, like in some (backwards) Amish communities.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 05:44 | 6729806 JDFX
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Because Western socieities are advanced democracies , I suspect we'll have to go full retard on surveilance and full real time tracking of citizens when out in public. This will be required to control the other half of the planet with ambitions to make it into a modern democratic society, to either live peacefully, or to destroy it as the Hadron Colider of global ideologies polarize,  and accelrate towards the inevitable impact of the two opposing forces.

 

 

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 06:40 | 6729865 Moe Howard
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In a sense, I am glad that I am "old" because the future looks pretty bleak. Unless you think having every movement, action or event in your life recorded forever and accessable forever is a bright future. Even actual sheep and cattle have more privacy than human beings at this point. As someone sang once, you don't know what you have until it's gone.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 08:14 | 6730019 Doppelganger71
Fri, 10/30/2015 - 12:23 | 6731258 Kirk2NCC1701
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Alex, What is the Binary for 666?  I.e. 666 = 1x2 + 1x8 + 1x16 + 1x128 + 1x512.

Alex: Correct, Kirk.  You win one free RFID implant.

 

512  256  128  64  32  16  8  4  2  1

1        0      1     0    0    1  1  0  1  0

512          128             16   8     2     --> 666

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 12:02 | 6731172 Oldrepublic
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Back in the early 70s I was able as a US citizen when walking from Mexico to the US to orally state my citizenship to the US immigration/custom agent at the border. No documents to show!

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 12:35 | 6731312 Kirk2NCC1701
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Things haven't changed that much, judging by what's happening in Europe.

Except maybe, who is now the "New Exceptional People/Folks", exempt from Big Bro scrutiny and interference.

 

EU Immigration: What country are you a citizen of?

A: Uhm... Iraq.

EU Immigration:  Ok, off you go to Customs.

EU Customs:  Anything to declare?

A: Yes.  I declare I will need Social Aid as a Refugee.

EU Customs: Ok, off you go to the Welfare line over there.

 

Remember:  Old Order --> Chaos -->  New Order.   I.e., Melt -->  Reshape --> Re-Freeze

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 14:33 | 6731855 Hope Copy
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Make Leo Burnett and company really happy!

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