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The 'Bernwashing' Of America
Submitted by Chris Campbell via lfb.org,
#Feelthebern…
If you use any form of social media, and have any friends or followers at all, you’ve undoubtedly come across the hashtag.
And you also undoubtedly feel the ‘bern’ of yet another fellow American falling… yet again… for the socialist trap.
And here are some scary numbers to chew on this fine Monday afternoon…
According to social media analytics firm RiteTag, #Feelthebern is tweeted 625 times per hour.
With that, it’s getting 2.11 million views and being shared 883 times…
Yes… PER HOUR!
Also according to RiteTag, some of the latest pictures shared are…



Let’s face it. Bernie Sanders is ‘hot right now.’
And here’s the thing…
We don’t disagree with him on everything. In fact, here are just a few things we can say, from a 10,000 foot view, we agree with…
- Get big money out of politics.
- Create decent paying jobs.
- Care for our veterans.
- End the drug war.
- And on…
But how he plans to do it, of course, is what we absolutely, unequivocally, without a single shred of doubt… completely… disagree with.
He’s a one-trick pony. His only solution is to redistribute wealth. Which, if history is any guide, doesn’t work.
Alas, some are doomed to repeat humanity’s mistakes. And they think that it makes perfect sense. Especially the majority of the millennials, who, caught in a trap of student debt, wish someone would wave a magic wand and make it all go away.
I know many of these people. And have heard many of them, on many different occasions, tell me that they don’t plan to ever pay off their debt. Their plan is to just let it fester until it’s absolved.
Seriously.
Apparently, enough millennials rubbed the lamp and… miraculously… out popped Uncle Bernie, here to soothe all their ills with free stuff.

Oh, wait. There he is now, on his white unicorn…

How will you do it, Bernie?
Raise the taxes.
But just on the rich, right?
No.
Wait… what?
What most bernwashed Americans don’t get is it’s not the super rich who are going to #feelthebern… it’s them.
Everyone… we repeat… everyone is going to get taxed to death so that our government can waste more of our money on waging wars, spying on its citizens, militarizing our law enforcement, secretly running civil disobedience trainings on our soil, and making sure that this country falls to its knees and stays there.

In the meantime, all the services that Bern is offering for free might become free — but they will also continue to degrade. And they will quickly become completely irrelevant in our society. A big waste of resources and time.
We can already see it happening in regards to healthcare and education.
Many think Sanders is somehow ‘new,’ and ‘edgy,’ and he’s on the fringe.
When, in reality, he’s just spouting the same old [expletive deleted] that governments have always promised when a charismatic leader steps up in a time of crisis.

Bigger government. Bigger government. Bigger government.
If that mantra doesn’t keep you up at night, you need a little dose liberty in your life.
Or maybe a whole lot. But that’s up to you to figure out.
To help, we’ve invited Paul Kahn from Your Life Your Liberty...
Read on…
Hey, Bernie! Look Up!!!
By Paul Kahn

Bernie Sanders supporters seem to be everywhere. Many of his supporters are intelligent people who are sick of the corruption and greed they are seeing and know something needs to change.
Understandably, they like him because he is one of the few politicians that actually talks about it. And he is right. Well, HALF right.
One cannot lay the blame solely on the corporations or the people who run them. The government is the institution that actually EMPOWERS them. As government grows and continues to expand with more and more power over our lives, so grows the opportunity for large corporations to petition government, which only further expands the ultra-wealthy’s power, control, and influence.
There is a renewed interest in socialism in this country, as if putting the word “democratic” in front of it makes it somehow unique. No matter how it is wrapped, socialism is still the belief that we can raise people out of poverty by taking money out of the hands of those who have learned how to produce.
And it has never worked.
Yes many of the people in the Nordic countries say they are happier, but it’s not because of socialism.
- Denmark ranks higher than the US in business freedom, monetary freedom, investment freedom, financial freedom, property freedom and freedom from corruption.
- Finland ranks higher than the US in business freedom, monetary freedom, investment freedom, fiscal freedom, property freedom and freedom from corruption.
- Norway ranks higher than the US in trade freedom, property freedom and freedom from corruption.
- Sweden ranks higher than the US in business freedom, monetary freedom, investment freedom, financial freedom, property freedom and freedom from corruption.
Taking money away from people who have figured out a way to produce a viable good or service and then giving the money to people who will do nothing but spend it, does not and can never, create economic growth and prosperity.
Savings and investment drive production and production is what drives consumption. Real economic growth involves people taking on risk and actually creating something productive.
Taking money from one hand and putting it in the other does absolutely nothing to grow the economy — it is simply moving the same money around.
These ideas are completely flawed and unsound.
The idea that there is only a certain amount of money to go around and we need someone to re-distribute it so it is more evenly dispersed is totally misguided. If there is only one fixed amount of money to go around, then how did we go from about 3 million people since our country was founded in 1776, to 300 million?
True capitalism (what we have now is a far cry from it) produces real economic growth and the most amount of prosperity for the greatest number of people. It doesn’t come from some command and control bureaucracy that steals the money from society’s producers and then re-distributes the goodies to the rest.
Socialism always fails because at some point people realize they don’t have to work as hard to get the same amount of stuff. It takes all the incentive away to really succeed.
49% of Democrats now have a favorable view towards socialism. This is scary. And sad. All of the economic and productivity advancements we have seen are all the result of someone being willing to take risks. ‘Oh no,’ you say, ‘we only want to steal money from the “rich”. Really?
Take a look at how we live in this country compared to the rest of the world. To them, we are ALL rich! Is it ok for other, more impoverished countries to steal 90% of our wealth so we are forced to pay OUR “fair share”?
What does it really mean to say that some people should pay 90% tax? It means you believe that it is acceptable for the government to take 90% of everything you earn.
‘No, but we are only punishing the super rich — the people making millions every year!‘
Wrong again.
The super rich have dozens of tax attorneys and financial planners that make sure that their wealth is hidden. They don’t show their money through the income tax.
Most of the money they earn is a result of tax free municipal bonds and other investments as a way to shelter the money from taxation. Income taxes don’t reach the super rich because they don’t earn their money in income.
So who does it really hurt?
It hurts the people who are running small businesses who are trying to grow it, so they can employ more people. A successful small business owner may report $200,000 profit on his income taxes and he is considered “rich,” as he is in the top percentile. After all the risk he has taken on, all the debt, all the people he employs (including the contractors he paid to get to where he is) he finally starts to reap the rewards of his years of dedication, effort and hard work and now we should punish him for his success? When we take the majority of his income away, he now has less money to re-invest in his business.
That means his business doesn’t grow or takes much longer to grow, which means it takes that much longer for him to hire more people. He is less productive and we are making it harder for him to succeed. He makes good money, but it’s not enough to have a team of tax attorneys and multiple tax shelters like the big boys controlling the politicians. These policies are therefore actually protecting the super rich, as they make it more difficult for the small business owner to become really rich themselves — it prevents competition.
Those at the top also get the government to work for them by passing legislation to keep out competitors. They don’t just do this through lobbyists. They do it by getting top executives into government itself!
Case in point: Monsanto.
The former Monsanto vice president, Michael R. Taylor is now running the FDA. Taylor spent years lobbying for the GMO Foods giant. The commissioner position he now holds at the FDA, affords Taylor the ability to sign off of any cancer-causing, harmful agent produced by Monsanto. In this way, no more expensive lobbyists are needed and one doesn’t need money to influence the legislators, because they ARE now the legislator!
Whoever wins the next election is meaningless because Monsanto’s interests will be served.
Today, we live in an economic and political system controlled by corporations or corporate interests; a merger of state and corporate power if you will. The original point behind government providing a watchdog over industry — was to keep the playing fields equal — between players and owners.
Those days are long gone. Government is now part of most industries and those industries are part of government. As the federal government has progressively become larger over the decades, every significant introduction of government regulation, taxation, and spending has been to the benefit of some big business.
It used to be against the law for a corporation to contribute to a political party. Now these corporations spend more on lobbyists than they pay in taxes. We now live in a system where corporations can legally purchase politicians through unlimited, undisclosed campaign donations.
Giant corporations and the wealthy elite rule in a way to satisfy their own self-interest. It is in the interest of the ruling class to maintain the appearance that the people have a say, so more than one candidate is offered up. It’s in the interest of corporations and the wealthy elite that the winning candidate is beholden to them, so they financially support both Democrats and Republicans.
Look at the list of the top donors to both political campaigns and it’s virtually the same donors. It’s in the interest of corporations and the wealthy elite that there are only two viable parties—this cuts down on bribery costs.
And it’s in the interest of these two parties that they are the only parties with a chance of winning.
The corporations and the wealthy elite directly and indirectly finance candidates, who are then indebted to them. As in the case of the example with Monsanto, it is common for these indebted government officials to appoint to key decision-making roles those friendly to corporations, including executives from these corporations.
And it’s routine for high-level government officials to be rewarded with high-paying industry positions when they exit government. It’s common and routine for former government officials to be given high-paying lobbying jobs so as to use their relationships with current government officials to ensure that corporate interests will be taken care of.
The United States is not ruled by a single deranged dictator but by an impersonal corporatocracy.
Thus, there is no one tyrant that Americans can first hate and then finally overthrow so as to end senseless wars and economic injustices. Revolutions against Qaddafi-type tyrants require enormous physical courage. We all need to wake up and see that we Americans have neither a democracy nor a republic and are in fact ruled by a partnership of “too-big-to-fail” corporations, the extremely wealthy elite and corporate-collaborator government officials.
Americans must surgically remove the corporate cancer from government through direct action like voting out the statists and cultivating new leaders from within the movement.
If we want to solve the issues of corruption, we must start at the source by electing representatives who will reduce the size, scope and power of the functions of government.
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The free shit army needs a taste of reality. Time for a real fight against these Clinton Sanders Obama voting sons of bitches.
An economics professor at Texas Tech said he had never failed a single student before but had, once, failed an entire class. The class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said ok, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism. All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A.
After the first test the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. But, as the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too; so they studied little ...
The second Test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around the average was an F. The scores never increased as bickering, blame, name calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for anyone else. All failed to their great surprise and the professor told them that socialism would ultimately fail because the harder to succeed the greater the reward but when a government takes all the reward away; no one will try or succeed.
< In a nation of children Santa Claus wins every election.
< ANYBODY but Hillary.
"Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass… Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not." -- Jonathan Gruber
Come 2017, whether I end up with Sander's style socialism or Trump's single payer medical system shoved down my throat I think it'll be about time to stop participating with these people.
Q: Do you know where the term Nazi came from?
A: Nationalsozialistische
and to appeal to the more communist leaning peoples they added
ArbeiterparteiSanders is the ticking timebomb that Soros has been waiting for, to accelerate the errosion of America's middle classes, further consolidate wealth and natural resources amongst fewer individuals, and accelerate the goal of a one-world government by the elitist billionaires.
We have it in the UK now with Corbyn. Wants to QEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE > infinity to build new stuff.
If we were lying in waste after being nuked by the Chinese/Russians/French he said he would not press the button to retaliate back.
And he said Bin Ladens death was 'a travesty'.
We are fucked.
It is a fact that the banks have been given the power to manufacture fake wealth. The red scare 2.0 that the money-controlled media is fomenting is all about allowing that fake wealth to control everything.
Who will attempt to end the drug war and the police state welfare queens with their cries for "my small town fiefdom needs a tank"? No candidate but Bernie.
This is a virtual thought-crime among the GOP, and the Democrats stick to it out of some misguided attempt to "play to the center".
Who will stop the unsustainable war mongering? No candidate but Bernie.
This is just more handouts to the military industrial welfare queens. We have recently been through 8 years of no-bid contracts that have MOSTLY benefited companies with ties to the executive branch. Are we going to put another "businessman" into the position of blatant profiteering?
Who will stop the wholesale plundering of middle class wealth? No candidate but Bernie.
After having our manufacturing outsourced to China, and being transformed into a "service" economy. The only wealth left in the middle class is in their real-estate holdings. This was stripped away first by derivatives hairball investors going long on real-estate everywhere, then by them shorting it to the hilt with "housing futures". The crooks responsible should be forced to live in a "housing future". The fact is that if you have more resources, even if they are fake state-sanctioned resources like a license for credit creation, you will be able to short and long the wealth out of ANY market. The GOP is lockstep in their mantra: "bend over to the investor" The Democratic party is nearly the same with the exception of Bernie. If their welth is fake to begin with, why the continual cries for the absolute power of money?
This article also mentions the appointing of corporate stooges to positions of regulation in the government as a reason to dispense with regulation altogether. This is an action taken by the entirety of the GOP candidates and all Democratic candidates except Bernie. Obama is shit, but George W was even worse shit:
https://www.opensecrets.org/revolving/search_result.php?admin=George+W.+...
But all the problems you cite are the result of socialism. In a free market people prefer to spend their money on their own needs rather than on bombs to blow up foreigners or on bank bailouts. It takes an elite class of redistrubitionists in order to make people give up their money for those things.
Namely, the GOP. I agree. The GOP is weak on big-government. Military industrial welfare queens. Prison industrial welfare queens. Credit creation combined with a free pass into the Wall Street casino with the repeal of the glass-steagal act... on and on...
Glass–Steagall wasn't repealed, it was replaced with a much larger piece of legislation called Gramm–Leach–Bliley
If banking had really been deregulated then you and I would no longer be forced to use Federal Reserve Notes and we could go to a bank run by some individual whom we know personally and trust or we could open banks of our own. But we can't do that because there was no deregulation. There was increased regulation and as always the purpose of government regulation is to protect the status quo and not the little guy.
Sigh. God forbid anyone suggests taxing the rich in America, because then you get all the shills for the rich writing articles like this one.
But Bernie wants to increase payroll taxes on you.
"It would hit everyone –- yeah, it would. But it would mean we would join the rest of the industrialized world and make sure that when a mom has a baby she can in fact stay home with that baby for three months, rather than going back to work at the end of one week." -- Bernie Sanders
Sanders knows that taxing "the rich" even at 100% would not be enough to cover present obligations let alone any new obligations.
He’s a one-trick pony. His only solution is to redistribute wealth. Which, if history is any guide, doesn’t work.
If history is to be a guide, it actually works really well! Go back a few hundred years and contrast avg quality of life then in Europe to today.
Concentrated wealth clogs economy like fat clogs arteries.
Norway is probably the most socialist country in the world - and they win poll after poll as happiest. They also have a functioning market system and smart localized government. And high taxes. But either way you gonna pay, whether it's taxes, getting fucked 8 ways to sunday by every corp slipping their hand in your pocket or living in shithole. That's life on earth folkz
Americans pay tiny bit less taxes for (avg) immensely worse quality of life, services.
All Bernie is arguing for is the Nordic model. And yes, it's better.
You've confused the higher standard of living which was made possible by technological improvements for the efficacy of wealth redistribution. Who made the greater contribution to the increased standard of living -- Edison, McCormick and Ford or Marx, Lenin and Stalin?
You've confused the higher standard of living which was made possible by technological improvements for the efficacy of wealth redistribution.
Technology improvements - industrialization - actually made quality of life MUCH WORSE for European labour, that's a simple fact of history.
It was to become the entire raison d'etre for labour organizing in the 1800s, and many people died fighting for better working conditions. It wasn't like 15$ /hr protests at MCD.
Only recently did technology 'trickle down' to benefit the majority of global plebs.
Americans like to forget that the country was a totally backwardsass bangaladesh-style shithole before labour organizing greatly benefitted commoners around the turn of the century. Dickens famously remarked at how appalling the country was during his visit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jungle
Why not stick with one of Sinclair's more realistic works like The Gnome-mobile?
Back in the real world, my German ancestors were brought to America by Capt. Ford of PPG just as Bismarck was bringing socialism to Germany. They were experienced glass workers who found great opportunity working in American factories. They wrote to relatives back in Germany and told them, "Our dog eats more meat in a day than you do in a week," and soon the rest of the family followed.
They were experienced glass workers
Glass at that time (I would estimate 1880-1900?) was not mechanized and required skilled tradespeople who were * GET THIS * supported by large unions!
They were among the earliest unions... Yeah, no wonder your ancestors were eating well!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass,_Molders,_Pottery,_Plastics_and_Alli...
The union's jurisdictional fight was an important one. Highly skilled workers like glass blowers made up 15 percent of the entire workforce. While 45 percent of American workers made just enough money in the 1880s to be at or above the poverty line ($500 a year), another 30 percent made less than that. A shocking 10 percent of all full-time workers made so little money they were considered absolutely destitute. >>>>> Glass blowers, however, made 60 to 100 percent more than the average worker, and were considered the "cream" of the working class. <<<<<<
God it's priceless that you brought up glass tradesmen of all the people you could cite!
I'm all in favor of the voluntary association of individuals. Before the Wagner Act (1935) unions were not backed by the coercive power of government. That deal was cut when FDR convinced business owners to go along with the new labor regulations in exchange for their own right to operate previously illegal cartels.
Experienced glass workers who bargained collectively without government protection displayed the very best attributes of capitalism. Their ability was their capital and they made the most of it. They did not need the force of government in order to make a deal. If these workers did not have something valuable to trade Capt. Ford would not have made the effort to travel overseas and recruit them and there obviously was no adversarial spirit involved.
If you can find so much to praise in the voluntary union-management relationship then why not return to that standard? After all, you yourself described this relationship as "priceless!"
I'm all in favor of the voluntary association of individuals.
You should change your name to Billy the comedian. You anscestors were union labour, not this 'voluntary association of individuals' bullshit. They did well (while the rest of the country was pure shit) because they had a skill and were protected by a union.They also did not face mechanization until after the 1900s, at which point their wages collpased and the union started to falter as well.
But in the 1800s they were one of the very few labour groups who had serious union support. And if you think the relationship between the employers and unions was somehow harmonious - go read up on it.
Experienced glass workers who bargained collectively without government protection displayed the very best attributes of capitalism.
Yes, that bit in the capitalist manifesto which advocates workers to form unions & collectively bargain lol.
They did not need the force of government in order to make a deal.
Nope, just their unions.
If you can find so much to praise in the voluntary union-management relationship then why not return to that standard? After all, you yourself described this relationship as "priceless!"
I said priceless because of all the people you could cite as an example of 'merica land of opportunity' in the 1800s, you picked the tradesmen best protected by unions (with ubiquitous membership)! And not only that, a group which became closely tied to the socialist movmenets! That's like that guy in finland or whatever, white supremacist, who found out he was jewish.
Anyway, clearly you know nothing about that history so go read up on it and then we'll see if you can explain why the wagner act was so bad.
you picked the tradesmen best protected by unions (with ubiquitous membership)! you know nothing about that history so go read up on it
You seem very self assured for someone with so little command of the facts. Pittsburgh Plate Glass produced flat glass and not blown glass. If you had done your reading you would have known that rather than union membership in flat glass works being "ubiquitous," in reality:
"In plate glass there had never been a significant trade union movement because of the unskilled nature of the work."
See: The Origin and Early Years of the Federation of Flat Glass Workers of America
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00236566208583890
So despite the fact that my ancestors did not work in a unionized industry they still lived far better than those they left behind in socialized Germany.
You anscestors were union labour, not this 'voluntary association of individuals' bullshit.But in the 1800s they were one of the very few labour groups who had serious union support. And if you think the relationship between the employers and unions was somehow harmonious - go read up on it.
So in your opinion my ancestors somehow forced Captain Ford to come to Germany and offer them passage to America and good wages. How do you think they accomplished that? What book details that experience?
Yes, that bit in the capitalist manifesto which advocates workers to form unions & collectively bargain lol.
You obviously have no idea what capitalism is. The knowledge, experience and reliability of the worker is his capital. Without such value the worker is not a worker at all and would have nothing to trade against his wages.
But thanks for once again taking a pie in the face. Any comedian would be grateful to have a straight man who is so willing to feel the burn.
POLISHED PLATE GLASS - as what i had assumed PPG had had meant, was hand blown. You also mentioned that your ancestors were skilled glass tradesmen, hence I would make that assumption. And even now I question whether you are in 'the command of the facts' on what PPG really produced. If the company was poaching workers from Germany it doesn’t make sense that it was for 'unskilled labour.'
In either case, yes, i am not an expert on your family history. But glass industry was famously unionized so even if they were 'unskilled labour' as you are suddenly claiming they probably benefitted from the labour demand in that industry generally. Otherwise they would've been living EXTREMELY SHITTY LIVES like most recent immigrants in the US during those years.
Though, your story remains highly amusing. Cheaper labour poached from foreign countries to take american jobs during a time when american labour force was in the shitter? What does that remind me of??
Dude, you don't blow window glass. It's poured and rolled. The labor is unskilled only in relation to the artisanal skill of glass blowing. Stop grasping at straws. The fact of the matter is that the plate glass industry was not unionized until the late 1920s, long after my German immigrant ancestors had retired and died. They were neither union members nor socialists despite your desire to defame both them and me.
they have a largely homogenous society. The US does not. Norway doesn't have something like 40 million black people that are a net drain on the economy. They also don't have 15 million or so illegals that pay no taxes yet recieve countless benefits. Not a real comparison. That shit will never work here.
There are various european countries with comparable demographics but nowhere near the quality of life vs the nordic block.
I disagree with your general racist sentiment, but yes there are many reasons why the nordic countries are successful (outside of their socialist labour models).
The Law of Jante is the idea that there is a pattern of group behaviour towards individuals within Scandinavian communities that negatively portrays and criticises individual success and achievement as unworthy and inappropriate.
The ten rules state:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante
Right, those 10 rules couldn't be said about most peoples attitudes in general...
If you think that Bernie is going to convince Americans to live like Norwegians in order to form a more perfect socialist union then I don't know what to tell you other than it isn't going to happen. Despite the efforts of progressives to force everyone into the mold of the lowest common denominator, Americans remain highly individualistic.
If you think that Bernie is going to convince Americans to live like Norwegians in order to form a more perfect socialist union
Not live like them, just steal the ideas that work. All of Americas greatest achievements have been by stealing ideas from others (or stealing people to make ideas). It's like hte picasso quote 'great artists steal.'
Stupidity ("the south will rise agian!") metastasizes in its closed circuit.
How do you intend to steal productive oil fields like the Norwegians have? Oh, yeah, as a statist you'll just continue with the Bush-Obama plan despite the obvious flaws.
@James COle:
Call me racist, but...
there is nowhere on Earth >15% negroid that could be called successful.
They are a primitive form of hominid that has not, does not, and never will produce an advanced civilization.
They are a primitive form of hominid that has not, does not, and never will produce an advanced civilization.
White people for the past 200 years have said that about every non-white race.
96% of Norwegians are ethnically Norweigan (northern Germanic). Add 1 million niggers, and I'll bet the farm there are fewer happy people in Norway.
Dammit Billy, now you got me agreeing with you.
And who signed the GLB bill? SlickWillie.
Double post
2 of the 4 provisions of the US Banking Act of 1933 (commonly referred to as Glass Steagall) WERE repealed, via the GLBA, in 1999. Part of that repeal involved VERY significant banking deregulation. It effectively opened the modern banking casino by enabling the large commercial banks, like JP Morgan, to derive an unlimited % of income (originally limited to 10% and raised to 20% in the 90s) from underwriting and advisory activities. You clearly were not an investment banker working at a large then-commercial bank in 1999, or you would appreciate the magnitude of the impacts of the partial Glass Steagall repeal. In 1999, the banks were green-lighted to lever up their commercial bank balance sheet in order to pursue higher margin i-banking business.
It's been argued back and forth regarding the impact of the partial Glass Steagall repeal on the next financial crisis (07-08). I would use the historical issuance of MBS as my argument that without the partial repeal, our nation wouldn't have been as systemically vulnerable to the forces contributing to the crash. Also, interpretation of Glass Steagall changed meaningfully prior to the partial repeal via GLBA. In other words, the forces driving global megabank creation (TBTF) were gaining strength thru the 90s, after having their early efforts to repeal Glass Steagall thwarted.
IMO, we're seeing a similar political drive to grab guns and stifle speech. Slow, repelled on occasion, but inexorably advancing.
CONGRESSIONAL RECORD: Nov. 8, 1999
CONFERENCE REPORT ON S. 900, GRAMM-LEACH-BLILEY ACT
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HON. RON PAUL
OF TEXAS
The better alternative is to repeal privacy busting government regulations. The same approach applies to Glass-Steagall and S. 900. Why not just repeal the offending regulation? In the banking committee, I offered an amendment to do just that. My main reasons for voting against this bill are the expansion of the taxpayer liability and the introduction of even more regulations. The entire multi-hundred page S. 900 that reregulates rather than deregulates the financial sector could be replaced with a simple one-page bill.
https://web.archive.org/web/20070310064613/http://www.house.gov/paul/con...
If by socialism you mean privatizing profits and socializing the losses of the largest banks, insurance companies, the MIC, the derivatives traders - then yes we have socialism. But in my opinion, we don't really have socialism. We have fascism and oligarchy.
The fraud being perpetrated upon the productive members of society (i.e. The middle class) by those in power and the FSA is immense.
Maybe Sanders isn't the right answer but what we have been doing for the last 40 years (and more like 100 years if you consider the fed) hasn't worked worth a shit either.
Where is the elusive "free market" of which you speak, Poet? I contend it never has existed and never will - at least for any length of time. Intervention of some sort always occurs. Whether in the form of monopolists seeking to increase their profits and power or in the form of so-called socialists who try to make the system more "fair".
I get the sense that libertarians think if everyone would just stop mucking with the market and worry less about what their fellows are up to everything else would fall into place. But please explain how that is any less naive than what either so-call socialists or communists expect of the members of their society.
I'm not an advocate of socialism or communism nor do I have any axe to grind with wealthy folks who have come about their wealth honestly or through productive means, but I find the ideals and the practical implementation of libertarianism no less a fairy tale than the Utopias promised by either socialism or communism.
I'd posit that the huge majority of Americans don't have a problem with people having more wealth than they do, rather that many wealthy folks (not all) have come by their wealth fraudulently. Most Americans just want something other than Cronyism. You seem to like to call it "socialism". But I don't think we have anything resembling socialism or communism. It's cronyism plain and simple.
Maybe if we stop using the wrong words for what the problem is, we might be able to fix it. I agree that the knee-jerk reaction to take money from the wealthy and redistribute it to the productive classes is not well thought through, but blaming all our woes and ills on the socialism/communism bogey man is also a knee-jerk reaction.
Where is the elusive "free market" of which you speak, Poet?
Freedom can be difficult to achieve at times but it does go on all around you whether you notice it or not. Individuals have a right to free speech but sometimes people are attacked for speaking. People have a right to worship but sometimes they are attacked for worshiping. People have a right to trade but sometimes they are attacked for trading. Nevertheless many people do speak and worship and trade despite the acts of violence perpetrated upon them. When I chose a product or service or accept a client I do so of my own volition.
If you don't want to use the wrong words to describe what happens in the world may I suggest that you obtain a dictionary. This can be done freely as a voluntary act between you and the seller with no use of force involved.
free -- not under the control or in the power of another; able to act or be done as one wishes.
"When I chose a product or service or accept a client I do so of my own volition."
"free -- not under the control or in the power of another; able to act or be done as one wishes."
So then when you 'chose' a product or services, are you truly free in your choice? Doesn't collusion by the providers of said products and services - which may exclude better quality or lower priced products of services in the market place - reduce your freedom - even if indirectly? Do you believe that NO collusion exists? Doesn't regulation of an industry - it's products or services - constitute some loss of freedom that is passed onto you the consumer? Do you not refrain from certain acts (e.g., drunk driving) for the common good?
You are obviously well read and are well spoken, however, I'd still argue that regardless of how eloquent your arguments are they lack content or substance in a practical sense. You blame socialism for a loss of freedom. And I would agree you are correct. But to over generalize and call any and all loss of freedom you experience in your day-to-day life a result of socialism seems misguided and incorrect when some of the freedoms you have lost are also due to acts of cronyism, monopoly capitalism, and other fraudulent, criminal and outright violent acts which DO 'control' you and have power over you however indirect. Our gov't has chosen to invade a bunch of countries - I'm pretty sure they didn't do this under the flag of 'socialism'. In fact ironically enough, they did it under the guise of 'Freedom'. And in doing so, have created all types of ramifications in the everyday lives of many Americans who had NO part in those decisions.
People acting in spite of the threat or actual acts of violence upon them is not freedom. THEY may be acting freely, but they don't live in a free society or market.
When I say 'free market' I mean the 'free market' as given by the socio-economic theorists and various and sundry posters here that think that there is a magical state of equilibrium where NO government regulation is required because EVERYONE - the rich, the poor, and everyone inbetween - behaves and adheres to so-called 'universal' laws of a free economic market and a free society. I'm guessing you knew what I meant but it seems to me - and I will grant that perhaps I'm wrong - you chose instead to use this as an opportunity to show how witty you are and have an argument of semantics.
As regards a dictionary, knowing the meaning of a word doesn't necessarily guarantee it's proper use.
So then when you 'chose' a product or services, are you truly free in your choice? Doesn't collusion by the providers of said products and services - which may exclude better quality or lower priced products of services in the market place - reduce your freedom - even if indirectly?
Obviously. When government regulation comes into play (regulation exists to protect the status quo and not to help the little guy) my abilty to chose is more limited. But there are still lots of opportunities to trade freely. You don't think that the elite class can completely eliminate the will of millions of people do you?
When I say 'free market' I mean the 'free market' as given by the socio-economic theorists and various and sundry posters here that think that there is a magical state of equilibrium where NO government regulation is required because EVERYONE - the rich, the poor, and everyone inbetween - behaves and adheres to so-called 'universal' laws of a free economic market and a free society.
You can imagine some perfect world and then discount the possibility of that perfect world all you want. I live in the real world. I know that I own myself despite the efforts of others to injure me and I act accordingly.
You are obviously well read and are well spoken, however, I'd still argue that regardless of how eloquent your arguments are they lack content or substance in a practical sense.
I am content that I perform to the best of my ability in an imperfect world. How could one be more practical that that?
It's never worked because fucking A and PHD students have never been taxed or produced anything that lasted the test of time, period.
Who is pushing all this socialism stuff? Government officials. Why? Because they truly believe in it. Why do they truly believe in it? Because they have seen it in action, and it works great. Everyone gets taxed, the money rolls in, they and everyone they know digs in with both hands and gets rich, and then everyone gets up again the next morning and it all happens again. Every day. Forever. It only gets bigger and better over time. From their perspective, what's not to like and what part of it isn't working?
The truly brilliant part is the way that socialism ensures that a maximum number of people will always be poor with the result that they clamor for even more government assistance.
One things for sure about this next election. The electorate is bound to be disappointed with the results. No candidate will deliver on their promises, certainly not Trump nor Sanders. Hilary, although a creature of the establishment and the current status quo, will inevitably promise more than she can deliver also. But nobody is satisfied with the current status quo so she too, if elected, will disappoint all but her die-hard delusional supporters.
So the only certainty is that by 2020 things will be much worse than they are today.
"Socialism" apart from being an excellent tar-and-feathers gimmick, is nothing compared to the blatant "banksterism" of being able to manufacture instruments of credit in all of its various forms:
Currency differs from stocks, bonds, futures, etc. only by the rules surrounding it. "Banksterism" is socialism of a different instrument of credit that is indisputably reserved for the elite. They can use this to make your home expensive, then put your loan underwater. They can use this to make your labor worth less than it should be. There are NO free markets while Banksterism is afoot.
If you care for America and its future, the only criteria that should be considered in this election should be: "Is the bastard for sale?"
Sell all of the unicorn fantasy ideology that you want, but bankster cronyism isn't going back in the bottle any time before the guillotines and rope come out. Bernie ain't gonna fix shit. If he gets in, we're gonna get more .gov, more "regulation", more taxes, more jackboots on our throats. No different than if Shitlery, Bush, or any other status-quo turd is selected.
Another robinson crusoe story which cannot prove anything.
Another response that makes an assertion (that the story proves nothing) but backs it up with nothing (such as why the story is not analogous).
It proves how gullible 40+ people are for urban legends like the socialism in the classroom one.
http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/socialism.asp
Nice story....
Can you cite the Professor, the class, the year?
Or is this one of those moral stories, that conservatives are fond of....
(rubbing my hands together)...so ummm, how IS Grandpa Bernie Marx gonna PAY for all the shit he's promising?
And I want YOU to be specific, no propaganda links.
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Crickets? ;-)
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"Mr. Gunnels, the Sanders aide, said the campaign hasn’t worked out all details on his plan—for instance, his version might allow each state to run its own single-payer system. But he said the $15 trillion figure was a fair estimate."
http://www.wsj.com/articles/price-tag-of-bernie-sanders-proposals-18-tri...
No details but it's a fair estimate, give or take a few trillion here or there...lmao!
How is any candidate going to pay for anything when no one is talking about typing spending to revenue?
Guess what - when a Jeb Bush or Ted Cruz spends X billion on bombing some shithole - that's on the credit card.
You have a point - you just need to expand it, brother.
Well, one side is (AND HAS BEEN) talking about how much "revenue" is being extracted by the federal government from the overall economy but the other side is only talking about Faaarrreee! shit...again.
Grandpa Bernie is talking about "spending" (really, taking away from the people who earn it) EIGHTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS over fifteen years. Do you know how much the GDP (if we want to use that ridiculous metric) was last year?
Exactly.
Bernie Marx makes Obama look like a cabin boi.
RD999 - 1 week, 3 days
Milton Keynes - 18 weeks, 2 days
Raymond_K._Hessel - 2 weeks, 4 days
sp0rkovite - 24 weeks, 6 days
Johnny Horscaulk - 5 daysI yield the floor to nmewn.
Yeah, I know.
But everyone has the right to speak, they just don't have the right to trick people into believing in unicorns & marxist fairies without some ghastly pale rider coming through lopping off their heads.
Every once in a while ;-)
I get a kick out of reading posts from the 'new' socialist promoting something they've never experienced while supporting someone who's been getting a paycheck his whole life from the labor of others.
<breaking> more #feelthebernies.
DanBEE - 6 weeks, 3 days.Does Soros pay time and a half after 5:00pm?
I was here for many years before I ever signed up to post but yea a lot of soros bots with 3 meals and a cot.
So the choice is commie bernie, or crime boss hillary. Once again proving elections don't matter.
Vote using your magic 8 ball, or don't bother. America is fucked either way.
This is why I recently went galt. Raise taxes all you want, fuckers. I quit my job and dropped into the lowest tax bracket, where it won't be noticed. I'll enjoy a no stess life until eventually there is a reset and we can all decide how best to funtion on the other side.
Good luck ZHers. You are the best we have.
The only thing worse than tax and spend democrats is tax and spend republicans
Because they don't tax other people and give it directly to you?
Maybe because they should know better.
You know what makes me lmao?
It's devout Marxists...touting governmental Marxism as the cure to the Marxism they've already unleashed. While the crony-marxist sits around (like a Krugman or a Buffet or a Bloomberg etal) saying "go-boyz-go"...lol. We say, ya know this is another blind alley laeding to a wall you're chasin this other Marx rabbit into, right?
They say, Oh no, this is a completely DIFFERENT Marx rabbit! This is a good rabbit!!!
Yeah, mmmhmmm, mmmk, good luck with all that.
Communism is no laughing matter.
http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.Macc7a51db23bd22fb858805d140be199H0&w...
Comrade, you could as deported gulag for mocking dear leader, repent on alter of state, be accepted again back to fold ;-)
I'm digging in with moose and squirrel. Do your worst!
Eeez good no? Father-State allow hunt away from metro area, less transportazun cost for im, more bread & water for always starving, grumbling city-citizen.
You like jor freedom der, jes? ;-)
It is murder ask any DPRK subject.
I don't work for Northrop Grumman, but I don't need anything from anybody. I like how democrats spend the money better, because it tends to stay local.
The money stays local when those who earn it get to spend it down at the corner store not when the money is taken away by DC politicians.
Democrat/republican - different sides of a shit sandwich.
Both take money from the productive class and give it to non productive classes - whether it's the MIC or the FSA - it's still theft from my pockets.
But you all keep arguing which side of that shit sandwich tastes better.
Yes because this exemple is a true "communist" one : every student is in the same situation with the same exam but in real life a south african gold miner is making 10 USD a day and bradd pit 1 000 000 USD for making the clown : but is working more ?
The value of work has nothing to do with how hard one works, it has to do with how much society needs or wants the job done.
Some types of production earn more than other types of production. This is a function of supply and demand. There is only one Brad Pitt but there are billions of people who have the ability to dig holes.
It is necessary for some types of production to pay more than other types of production as this constitutes price discovery. If everyone got paid the same amount of money for the same amount of calories burned then no one would ever be a brain surgeon or an entrepreneur or a teacher or an actor because based on the number of calories typically burned in those activities there wouldn't be enough hours in the day for an individual to earn a living doing those jobs and one could easily make more money just by slinging dirt from hole into another.
Price discovery causes people to chose to be doctors, entrepreneurs and so on because they see that value is placed on skills that are more advanced than the ability to move mounds of earth.
Of course, but why the teacher put some A, B, C on the quality of the essay or whatever and not for the calligraphy or the face of the students ?
This example is used as something rationale : more work = about best marks (not students are all equal).
But in life as you noted, that's different because money is not a physics measures like temperature.
Of course, but why the teacher put some A, B, C on the quality of the essay or whatever and not for the calligraphy or the face of the students ?
That would depend on whether the students have contracted for instruction in writing, art or modelling. At least that's way it works in a free market.
It's complete bullshit, same as about 80% of the post.
Or is this one of those moral stories, that conservatives are fond of....
As opposed to one of those immoral stories which progressives enjoy.
Classic, if true. Did this really occur or is it just an urban legend?
Man I can't believe your downvotes. It looks like ZH attracts some #feelthebern zombies. I gave you an upvote - nice post - but to the bernie/socialists out there: please, for the sake of our country, don't vote. Stay home and have a Che Guevera party. You can all drink some tequila and pretend that socialism actually works. And you can tell yourselves that it would have worked, in many different places, in many different times, if only it had been done properly - like thebern wants to. But whatever you do, don't use words like "incentives," "natural rights," or "economic calculation debate." Nor will you want to google "Karl Marx and the Close of His System." You certainly don't want to read it. And above all else, please, for your own sanity, don't read "Atlas Shrugged." Your tiny minds will implode. Sounds like a shitty party, but I still hope I get invited. After I vote, of course.
You're right. THREE FUCKING TRILLION DOLLARS on mideast wars and I didn't even get a FUCKING T-SHIRT. Coulda bought everyone in the goddamn country a college educated unicorn that perpetually shat skittles while living in the their free fucking house. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, that wouldn't be moral, better to kill a few million brown people and give umpteen fucking trillion dollars to the fucking Banksters!\
Bernie isn't the problem. Government of, by and for the people isn't the problem. Neo- fuedalism is the problem and the dumbass serfs are too busy fighting over crumbs to even realize the world is one big banquet-- just only for the parasitic ruling class.
"If we want to solve the issues of corruption, we must start at the source by electing representatives who will reduce the size, scope and power of the functions of government."
I wish the author had started with this sentence rather than ending with it. For as the great Albert Jay Nock said: "Sending in good people to reform the state is like sending in virgins to reform the whorehouse."
Until this is understood, nothing will be:
http://www.barefootsworld.net/nockoets0.html
$3 trillion? It is probably 3 times that!
The von Mises bots have no clue what is happening and how the 1% suck up the wealth and leave crumbs for the working people.
It is time to sharpen the guillotines and put the 1% heads on posts and then turn all the corporations into co-ops. No salary more than 5x the median salary.
I want what you have. Now.
@heresey101: "The von Mises bots have no clue what is happening and how the 1% suck up the wealth and leave crumbs for the working people."
You obviously haven't read him, esle you would understand how well he knew that the state is there for the taking by those bent on doing so.
"It is time to sharpen the guillotines and put the 1% heads on posts and then turn all the corporations into co-ops. No salary more than 5x the median salary."
Why a law? Why not simply refuse, as an individual, to invest in companies that pay their executives obscene sums?
Let the market decide, in other words, rather than those who would use the state to line their pockets.
Coulda bought everyone in the goddamn country a college educated unicorn that perpetually shat skittles while living in the their free fucking house.
But maybe it would be better to let folks keep their own money and do what they want to do with it. Maybe some folks don't want to go to college. Maybe they have other plans and if you take their money and make them go to college you're not doing them any favors. Doesn't it make more sense to let folks make their own choices rather than to come up with a short list of what everybody is supposed to want and then limit everyone to those few options?
Government of, by and for the people isn't the problem.
Who exactly is "the people?" What does "the people" want out of life?" What is "the people's" favorite band, book or movie? Does "the people" prefer intellectual pursuits or is it more hands on? What toppings does "the people" like on its pizza?"
the world is one big banquet-- just only for the parasitic ruling class.
The parasitic class is what you get when you demand that "the people" should stop being individuals and should become cogs in a machine run by an elite class of redistributionists no matter the variety.
People voting for Sanders are just as concerning as people voting for Trump. Walter was right, the whole world HAS gone crazy and, absolutely, don't give a sh!t about the f!@#ing rules.
I hate to say it, but there has to be a major culling come down soon to clean out the herd. At lof this nonsense will correct itself when the money train drys up...for example the rape culture on Campus will vanish when there are no longer Federal Funds to protect.
The so called rape culture is part of the ongoing effort to make normal male-female relationships obsolete. Men must admit that they are rapists at heart and accept feminatization while women must learn to be fearful and be repulsed by any male advance.
"Intercourse is the pure, sterile, formal expression of men's contempt for women." -- Andrea Dworkin
Not sure things are so simple...
The story we're told is that one in five women on campus will be raped but FBI statistics put the overall rate for rape at 39.8 per 100,000.
So ask yourself, is the rate of rape astronomically high on college campuses compared to everywhere else or is there something about college culture that exaggerates the prevalence of rape?
As college campuses are the most politically correct institutions in the country wouldn't it seem as if there should be fewer rapes on campus than off? And if a woman is safer from rape somewhere out on the bayou with a bunch of rednecks than she is in the hallowed halls of Politically Correct U then wouldn't that indicate a severe problem with political correctness?
I will tell that to the victims of rape I know, some of which were taped in college.i will inform them that it's all in their heads as part of a vast Marxist conspiracy to fuck with male female relationships.
Some men are able to attract women into wanting sex. I have had many, consensual partners without economic or violent coercion of any kind.Many other men pay for sex or take it by force. I always wonder about those who deny rape as being a real thing or not. I know a number of women who were rape victims. Some of them I saw shortly after the event it's very real. Sure like anything else some people lie about it happening when it hasn't. Some people lie about theft to cheat insurers that doesn't mean theft doesn't happen you shit heel. Also on a personal note go fuck yourself.
How do you reconcile the overall rate for rape as reported by the FBI being 39.8 per 100,000 if the rate of rape on campus is one in five as we are led to believe?
Also, why do you believe that "go fuck yourself" is a convincing argument?
I am voting for Bernie, not because I think he is good or a good leader. A vote for Bernie is a vote for the Full Retard reset.
Republicans pretend to care about spending while they raise a debt ceiling by $1.5 Trillion (Insane). Hillary lines her pockets with Millions of dollars while doing a poor job at every chance she got. She cannot even erase her emails properly.
Bernie is insane, he is the Nero of our time. Vote for Bernie, I mean it.
Forget about picking sides and being logical. It is all a crock, we know it.
Let Bernie have his way and he will destroy Washington and maybe much more.
The concept of a Federal government is failed, you cannot change a failure. You can only prolong the pain, which is what we see in congress.
Vote for Bernie to end the charade.
I see where you're coming from, but I think Hillary is your Ronald Bartel here, mate.
Hillary will do anything for money, I see a similarity with Bartel. Depends on point of view.
Point is what bother with half measures. You cannot fix broken by voting on the best repairman.
Bernie is so incompetent that he will finally break it for good. Hillary will just suck out enough money for herself and keep the patient alive for a little bit longer.
Hillary will do anything for money, I see a similarity with Bartel. Depends on point of view.
Point is why bother with half measures. You cannot fix broken by voting on the best repairman.
Bernie is so incompetent that he will finally break it for good. Hillary will just suck out enough money for herself and keep the patient alive for a little bit longer.
"Vote for Bernie to end the charade."
Must be a TIcker Forum groupie since that is what mr. ban hammer promotes. He encourged is followers to vote for Obismal to kill the beast, how is that working for you 7 years later? Bleeding from every orifice is not a plan. Bernie won't end the charade, he will just get another 15% of now working people convinced that hiring the government to rob his neighbor at gun point is easier than working. What are you willing to sacrafice in total, your self esteem or your principles? Pick one.
Most of Bernie's support are the same idiots who elected Obama. Tens of millions of "empowered" feminist middle aged women who want Government handouts and "rights". Women are somewhat socialist leaning by nature. They are easily manipulated and fooled. Look at Eve in the Garden. The serpent fooled her. The real crime was Adam, who was not fooled, but choose to eat the Apple. This is why men are the leaders, we are not so easily fooled and manipulated.
Oh please. Obama won the first time because George Bush was a fucking imbecile who turned peace and prosperity into endless wars and the worse financial depression in 80 years. Bush was such a fuck up that the country elected a black guy. Plus, McCain was a warmonger with a mental defective for a vp.
Second time around, the GOP ran the actual inventor of Obamacare, Mit Romney, against him. And they tried to make an issue of Obamacare. Could that be more stupid? Nope.
Obama has been a piss poor president, but if you compare him to the competition, including Hillary, he was the best of a bad lot. Kinda like how well an ugly hooker will do when the competition is a bunch of obvious transvestites.
If you can't see that Obama is Bush squared, then I fear you are without hope.
"Bush was such a fuck up that the country elected a black guy."
America did do that, didn't it. I can remember the incredible disgust for the GOP then.
What about the new and growing generations of silver spoon cocksuckers who will never work a day in their lives because of the trillions stolen by their parents in the past 10 years. You worry about the kid stealing the candy bar as the man in the suit empties the safe. It doesn't matter who becomes president. They all work for the oligarchs now!
The free shit army are the 1% getting every possible advantage from their politician cronies. Well I guess it's not really free, they do have to pay something up front, but it's a damn good ROI.
Who cares? There's not going to be any kind of USA-USA after the bankster/spooks get done with us. At least he has a chance of inciting some pitchforks!
Yeah the MIC free shit army, the bank free shit army, the insurance company free shit army, the derivative traders free shit army, and all the other pussies that can't contribute anything productive to society and expect the public to wipe their asses when they've lost their shit due to bad decision making.
For as much as libertarians love to extoll the virtues of self reliance they sure do love to bitch and moan about how the socialists and communists have ruined everything for them. Meanwhile there hasn't been anything resembling REAL socialism, communism or capitalism EVER. All that has existed are perverted amalgamations and poor interpretations of theories that have mostly benefited those in power. Same as it ever was. Just a different form of feudalism. The productive class is still controlled more or less by the aristocrats of the modern age - just instead of owning the estate or kingdom, they own the gov't, the means of production, the networks AND the land.
"49% of Democrats now have a favorable view towards socialism."
and what is the % that don't pay income tax?
48.9%
The reason people pay income tax is because they are to fucking lazy to read the tax code to find out most/all or their income is exempt. Therefore they volunteer to pay a tax they are not legalley required to and bitch about everybody that refuses to volunteer.
Oh - they are also afraid - scared of standing up for what is morally right - afraid IRS will kick their ass by using crooked judges to ignor the real law.
Can't say I blame them on that - been their and had my ass kicked a bit - but now I am free.
Believe it or not, some of us pay a city income tax, a county employment tax/fee, a state income tax on top of the federal income tax-- of course, we're all taxed again when we have to spend our already-taxed money. Fucking Hell!!!
"The United States is not ruled by a single deranged dictator but by an impersonal corporatocracy."
It has been since the end of neolithic and capitalism is no exception.
did Wall Street ever work ?
Keep your socialist bullshit in Brussels
what a meat-headed non-answer.
Too much Fox and Breitbart for you?
What does Wall Street have to do with capitalism? It's being kept afloat by central bank currency made available at a non-market rate. A central bank is, of course, a socialist institution.
The Ten Planks of the
Communist Manifesto
1848 by Karl Heinrich Marx
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
This should be viewed as a proposition of a transitional steps in order to dissolve the previous social order when capitalism was still in its rising phase.
When capitalism is not practiced people starve. Even communists rely on capitalism -- the maintenance of some productive capacity (capital goods) -- as that is the only way that necessary goods and services can be produced. The problem is that communism short circuits economic performance by redistribution which reduces motivation and efficiency and destroys price discovery.
Always the same BS : bolchevism is much less effective than western capitalism. No debate about that.
But that does not mean that capitalism is the best social production system everywhere and especially every time : why, because productivity, namely thanks to capitalsism has increased. It was the same when productivity was low : weakest people would die.
The 21th century is the era where capitalism has more than disadvantages than advantages.
I do not think capitalism will survive the next century.
All tools are capital equipment. All education and experience are intellectual capital. Without these things you would have to perform all labor by hand and most of your family would likely die of starvation and disease. If you don't believe me go live naked in the woods and tell me how that works out for you.
Fuck off you 5 day douche bag
That is what I do. And stop shitting in my socialist ass, it 's starting to hurt... . No pun intended.
Yes it has the best tool to "make money" which is the target ?
are you actually serious?
Absolutely !
In capitalism system making money is the only target, merchandise is just a by product : the genius of wall street is that they have succeeded to erase this tiring step !
Trollllllllllllllllllllllll
It works for the top dogs. Which the people here at ZH love to rail against. But when Bernie Sanders, the ONLY candidate that wants to break up any bank that has too much systemic risk, they fall all over themselves with "red scare" socialist horror stories. The red scare was started by those in power scared shitless when they saw what happened to the Russian royal family.
Yes there are indeed some people who still believes there was communism in USSR. Bolchevism is indeed the worst product of capitalism !
Equating Bernie Sanders with totalitarian communism makes you worse than Hilter. See how that works?
Hitler used "the force of German law" didn't he, see how that works?
all governments use the force of law, are you an anarchist?
Of course that's not the same, I wanted just say that bolchevism/sovietism would be better than communism asmost of the native americans were namely quite "communists".
What I would add is that even if Sanders would win, he could maybe put some few people in jail but the forces of money ALWAYS win when you are playing their gospel.
No political forces can go forever against the sense of history of money but I agree it would be nice to see some goldman fellows in less arrogant stance.
Arrest, Tri, Convict & Execute these Scum Fucks in public view for all the World to see in order to deter future Criminal Pure Evil Diabolical Psychopaths from doing the same or worse.
The BRICS moments of glory will quite surely happen but it will not last too many decades imo.
And we made it damned easy for them.
Nothing down home loans
Nothing down car loans
Nothing down student loans
And all the cheap foreign crap we would have never been able to afford without a job except for easy credit.
Oldwood
"Nothing down" is predicated on credit. Credit is debt. And where is this all debt created? By robbing future generations. Crime is legal and applauded. And I don't see it unravelling without blood.
You are fed up with MSM : please find the theorical explanation here
http://www.antiworld.se/project/references/texts/The_Society%20_Of%20_Th...
This dipshit thinks government can create decent paying jobs? Stopped reading right there.
Sure they can create GOOD paying jobs...in government! They made millions of them over the years. On top of that we have to pay them till they die.
we have to pay them till they die.
Well there's an idea.
People are looking for change.
Look in the sofa.
Our Government is fronting good money to indoctrinate a whole generation of useFULL idiots.
They expect their fucking money's worth.
They will get it.
If the gov wants it badly, they'll get it badly.
Tweets work because it matches the attention span as does music with a chours that repeats.
You can't tweet Alice's Restaurant. Arlo isn't proud, tired or limiting himself to 140 characters.
It's a global phenomenon. Look around.