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NATO Looks To Station Thousands Of Troops On Border With Russia
Russia’s dramatic intervention in Syria has served to push the conflict in Ukraine (a country that is now partially governed by Star Wars characters) to the back of the world’s collective mind. After all, separatists exchanging fire with government forces and/or far-right “volunteer” battalions every couple of days against a dreary backdrop of rundown Eastern European towns isn’t nearly as exciting as Sukhois dropping bombs on sword-waving desert bandits and so, Ukraine’s crisis has gradually receded into the background.
That said, it’s important to remember that one of the principal reasons for deteriorating relations between Moscow and the West is the conflict in Ukraine.
Indeed, Russian “aggression” in the region has triggered a series of snap drills on NATO’s part, the most amusing of which involved a set of war games centered around the capture of a fictional Ukrainian separatist leader called “Birdman” who lived in a shack in the forest. But all humor aside, NATO has also moved to beef up its capabilities near Russia’s border, as the US prepares to place heavy weapons in Poland and the Pentagon runs simulations to determine who would win a Balkan battle.
Now, with tensions running higher than ever thanks to the escalating situation in the Mid-East, NATO is set to bolster its Eastern flank to guard against what the West imagines is an imminent Russian invasion. Here’s WSJ with more:
NATO countries are discussing increasing the number of troops stationed in members bordering Russia and putting them under formal alliance command, part of a new effort to deter aggression from Moscow, according to diplomats and military officers.
Under one plan, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization would have a battalion in Poland and each of the three Baltic states—roughly 800 to 1,000 soldiers in each unit. A more modest version would have a single NATO battalion in the area.
While that sounds great to Washington’s war hawks, the Germans aren’t entirely sure that casting The Kremlin as the real world equivalent of the Death Star is a particularly sound idea when it comes to effective long-term foreign policy objectives:
While the U.S. and other allies are supportive, German officials in particular have expressed reservations, telling the allies in private discussions that they don’t want to treat Moscow as a permanent enemy or lock it out of Europe, despite the frictions over Ukraine and other provocations.
NATO officials say Berlin is unlikely to back the biggest deployment, but could support the more modest increase.
Of course even a “modest increase” will likely be viewed by Moscow as yet another escalation:
Some allies argue even a small buildup could have the unintended consequence of making a conflict with Russia more likely if mishaps or miscalculations by Mr. Putin accidentally trigger a wider clash.
Yes, “miscalculations by Mr. Putin.” Like the kind of “miscalculations” that can occur when a world leader sees enemy troops massing at his/her borders for no reason whatsoever.
But WSJ wants you to know that this isn’t an offensive move. Much like calls for regular warship patrols near China’s islands in the South Pacific, this is all about “deterrence”:
Senior allied officials say there is a growing agreement that more needs to be done to show Russia that NATO is committed to defend its territory. “There is a sense if we are going to have a long-term defense and deterrence strategy we need to discuss what more we need to do beyond our readiness action plan,” said Alexander Vershbow, the NATO deputy secretary-general.
And because the best defense is everywhere and always a good offense, multiple countries are ready to put troops under NATO command:
U.S. officials have said they are willing put the 150 U.S. soldiers currently in each of the Baltic states and in Poland under NATO command, and are open to rotating in additional troops from the U.S.
The plan would also require other countries that have deployed troops there to agree to a NATO command. The U.K. has about 150 troops there and Germany is deploying up to 200 soldiers.
Senior NATO officials say they believe they will be able to get troop contributions from member nations now, as more come to the conclusion that they face a long-term strategic competition with Russia. “The prospects are good that allies will contribute their fair share,” said a NATO official.
In a sure sign that this is in fact just another example of NATO sabre rattling and, at the risk of employing hyperbole, "warmongering", US defense officials swear they're not "picking a fight" (remember, the surest sign that something is probably true is when the official denials start to roll in):
“We are not picking a fight; we aren’t trying to provoke him,” said a senior U.S. defense official.
We'll leave you with the following comments from The Kremlin's ambassador to NATO Alexander Grushko:
“NATO military planning generates confrontational approaches to security issues that in our view should belong to the past. The creeping increase in NATO’s military presence on our frontiers [is] testing [our] patience."
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800 soldiers - that's nothing
Tell that to their families.
Cry me a river leftart.
I have a better suggestion.
Why don't you pick up your M-4, backpack and lead by example? Go to the front and show them cowardly Russki's that Amerika means business. FOX TV will get your back.
Only those who have never seen 'action' would make such dumb ass statements.
Not understanding the exchange of words. 800 troops is nothing, similar to US crossing 12 mile boundary with Missile Frigate/Destroyer,
all for show. Really bad drama.
Zero Hedge never writes these types of articles when Russia stationed S-300s in Belarus, or when it stationed mobile nuclear iskander missile launchers in kalingrad. How many times did russia threaten first strike nuclear attacks on countless countries in the past year?
Russia doesn't "threaten"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6fJlEfc4V4
just in time for winter.
why not tation them on the borders of Austria and Germany and protect those countries's borders from a bigger threat then Russia?
Welcome muritard. Play these propaganda games with idiots like you .Firstly Kaliningrad is Russian territory so they can do whatever they want Why Poland and Romania has stationed US defense missile shields ? Poland and Romania are not US territories got your answer why Belarus placed S-300 in its territory. Keep poking and face the consequences empire of chaos apologists.
Da! Da!
Oh, so you firmly believe that weaker countries that Russia threatens have no right to form military alliances to defend themselves.
You youngster is trivial dunce. You didn't talk about it? Well, look smart uncle. You're a dunce.
Other than trolling Joe T, what makes you think Russia, unlike Amerika, is threatening 'weaker' countries? What do the Baltics or the Ukraine have to offer, that Russia needs? More real estate??
How many countries has the USSA invaded?
Let me refresh your memory:
China 1945-46
Korea 1950-53
China 1950-53
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-60
Guatemala 1960
Belgian Congo 1964
Guatemala 1964
Dominican Republic 1965-66
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Lebanon 1982-84
Grenada 1983-84
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1981-92
Nicaragua 1981-90
Iran 1987-88
Libya 1989
Panama 1989-90
Iraq 1991
Kuwait 1991
Somalia 1992-94
Bosnia 1995
Iran 1998
Sudan 1998
Afghanistan 1998
Yugoslavia – Serbia 1999
Afghanistan 2001
Libya 2011
Troll you jist debunked your own crap. So Belarus has no right to defend itself from your retarded bloated colossus terrorist organization. NATO purpose is long gone and it should be disbanded. Bombing and killing Iraqis, Libyans etc just for their vested interests. West has been morally hacked. But you thick empire apologists cant fathom it. No issues, we'll see how long Empire can drag itself as a unipolar hegemoic retard on Earth.
Defense shields are different than offensive ballistic missiles. One is used for knocking down attacking missiles while the other, 9K720 Iskander, can blow up cities, airports, harbor facilities, big STUFF.
Yeah, the same Defense shield was supposedly set up to protect against Iran, LOL>
The moronic NeoCons were planning a first strike against Russia, then using the so called shield to shoot down a russian counterattack. Their plan was to go into their hidey holes while useful idiots like yourself burn up in a nuclear holocaust.
I love America, but I hate what it has become, especially in the last 14 years!
Lolthanks for showing your ignorance i wrote it down as a justification to his trolling remark of Why Belarus has stationed S-300s? DamnRetard cant you read Kaliningrad is Russian territory and they can put any offensive weapons in any amount. If you snobs jave a problem then do onething go dismantle your nukes from California base etc and wherever they are because they are offensive weapons and can destroy human life's.Apologists are bunch of fucking sooks.
Yes Joe, how many times exactly ?
You would hear about Russia moving missiles to Kalingrad just as much as the US moving missiles to Alaska.
So unless part of eastern europe is suddenly a US state, then there is a huge difference between stationing troops and weapons in one's own territory, and stationing ones troops and weapons thousands of miles away from ones country.
And there was also no foul cry when Russia massed its troops on Ukraine's borders - there's so much hypocrisy on this website.
How dare Russia station its troops inside it's own country! Their actions are so much worse than the USA putting their troops in a foriegn country that is right on the border with Russia, after promising in 1990 to never do such a thing as a way to avoid total nuclear war and seal the (mostly) peaceful breakup of the Soviet Union!
Stupid Russians! Stupid ZH for not being more pro-US in Eastern Europe!
The USSA controlled Kiev puppets claim a russian invasion every other day. Just google 'Russia invades Ukraine' and start laughing.
As we can see in Syria, if Russia really wanted to invade the Ukraine, Putin would be eating Lunch in Kiev, and Dinner in Lvov. But why would Russia want to occupy a beyond bankrupt country full of entitled crazies, demanding 40, 50 60+ billion dollars? Better to stick the bill to the EU.
With Russia showing its ability to smash the USSA ISIS puppets with a small air force, at least we will no longer have to listen to porkyschenko claiming he will retake Crimea.
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/politics/poroshenko-ukraine-will-retake-...
Likewise motosaurus - how dare NATO station troops in an allied country. There's no difference, so what that 3 paid russian trolls upvoted you 15 times.
You guys whine about countries defending themselves against Russia, but make up excuses for Russia to do the same thing.
Just imagine if Russia stationed troops in Canada, on the US border. What do you think the USSA reaction would be? Hint: Cuban Missile Crisis.
NATO is an offensive military alliance controlled by Amerika. Fortunately, Putin showed Russia's teeth when 26 undetectable cruise missiles were fired 1800 Kilometres into Syria, a range that covers the entire Persian Gulf. Notice how the Theodore Roosevelt Aircraft carrier suddenly left the Persian Gulf for maintenance?
Roosevelt was the 26th pres. of the US, so 26 missiles launched is proof that Putin has a sense of humor. But I'll bet they are not laughing in Washington.
Just look at the history
http://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
"With Russia showing its ability to smash the USSA ISIS puppets with a small air force, at least we will no longer have to listen to porkyschenko claiming he will retake Crimea."
Wish you were right. But he will continue. Next talk will be about secret weapons and wonderweapons.
Thats the way when you put lie on lie.
Your retardness and stupidity does not equate to ZH hypocrisy. So a country cant station its troop on its own territory boundering a country where US led putsch regime overthrew a legitimate govt causing crisis .
Why US troops are present in Europe? Thats not your border. Neither South Korea is US border and neither Central africa is american territory nor Middle East and let alone your occupied islands.
Get yourself educated first before expressing your empty brain.
You're a dick.
Those pesky Russians keep putting their borders right next to our military installations! How dare they!?
Perhaps a geography lesson would help you. Ukraine borders Russia, and Russia stationing troops on their border is VASTLY different than the US or other countries stationing troops thousands of miles from their border.
Stay cool, they aren´t there anymore. The 7 Russian tanks are now in Syria.
never happened
just understand that
Hey hypocrite, your various diatribes against the United States - you routinely tell us it's a piece of shit, sorry excuse for a country- are undercut by the fact that you continue to remain here.
If America's such a lost cause, why bother to stick around?
Stuck in the 1950's and 1960's are you? "Better dead than red"? Lets go to Korea and Vietnam and stop those commies!
Are you also supportive of the shredding of the Constitution and Bill of Rights and defending of the NSA/CIA/DHS and Patriot Act too?
Give your head a shake.
Don't worry, soon it will be 0 since Poland just had an election and guess who won? Certainly not the friends of US. So i wouldn't be surprised if it will be 0 after all. Most of eastern europeans have had enough of US so go figure.
Apparently you are unaware of Dr. Engali and his work. Who are you again molecool? One of the surest signs of troll is the use of 'tard' or 'tart'.
Not true! I can say that molecool is a fucktard and that would be an appropriate use of the term...and I'm not a troll...otherwise, you're ABSOLUTELY correct about molecool
molecool = disinformation agent of the Deep State that has been waiting for instructions for the past 6 years, 15 weeks.
molecool uses a symbol as avatar that hints to some... europeaness, and last year he posted quite a lot of comments. just saying
I stand corrected Ghordius. I've been around for awhile and recognize most of the frequent posters. For some reason, molecool flew under my radar screen, but I'm guessing it didn't cost me anything.
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If their families were truly concerned, they'd talk them out of being imperialist meat shields.
Why have wars when we can print money? Printing solves everything.
Under fire over debate moderation, creepy John Harwood plays victim
CNBC / NYT reporter posts sympathy ploy, retweets Rubio, Carson attacks
http://tinyurl.com/nzottth
Since there is so much cash available, let us spend it on those non productive things
Putin should make a state visit to Mexico.
After Canada or before ?
Maybe we could get him to put Russian troops in Mexico to help secure the border!
Have to give the people a boogie man in order to keep the spice flowing to the MIC.
+1 for the Dune reference.
More goats tethered to the stake as bait. Shades of the Berlin Brigade back in 1970-71
This is a worse idea than Banana & Broccoli DORITOS®
"...one plan, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization would have a battalion in Poland and each of the three Baltic states—roughly 800 to 1,000 soldiers in each unit."
So about 2,400-3,000 troops in front of the Russian Armed Forces.
You know another word for that?
Speedbump.
Uncouth. Thats a sleeping policeman.
Those troops are a deterrent to stop Putin from gassing his own people, or something
who ever gasses his own people? humans don't do that. they always declare first that "they" are other people, and then they start to do something about it
without a declaration of "otherness", no systemic or systematic violence is possible. and that's why the pen is mightier then the sword, among other reasons
Throughout history, leaders have turned against their people. Seems Americans should have more to fear than Russians.
Russia should place the Taliban at the opposite side of the border, judging by Nato's performance in Afghanistan the Russians would be safe.
Or ISIS! Just tell the US that ISIS is in Eastern Ukraine and watch the arms, ammo and medical supplies start dropping like mana from heaven.
Espacially as Taliban are getting new manpads soon. Courtesy of MIC.
Hey Germany, Jack Lew wants you to ship him your gold so the Russians don't get it when USSA provokes them from your soil.
O.K. But you know, those shipments are real slow.
Just abuse of Baltic state paranoia* by NATO.
* To some degree well-founded given ethnic Russians form sizeable minorities, in Latvia especially.
+1, though don't forget that Poland has that paranoia, too, and to a lesser degree also Romania and Bulgaria
further, let's note that all the Scandinavian countries - usually depicted as "socialist and peaceful" - are wary of the bear at least as much
And that will be changing for them very rapidly when the "checks" start bouncing which will be happening in 5... 4... 3.. 2.. 1..
the "checks" started bouncing on August 15th, 1971. the Russian eurodollar holdings started be a "war zone" even before. you have to be more specific then that
Okay post-9/11 "banker bailout" ish for the U.S.
When the U.S. can no longer pay the vassal states and by that I mean the petrodollar is numerically inferior at Zimbabwe levels, of which the trigger is already being squeezed... then we will start the epic journey to the fine viae
Up arrowed you.
I found it always very interesting, this imho myth of "the U.S. paying the vassal states"
look, in the greater scheme of things, you are right. usually, "vassals" send containers full of goods and get... dollars for them. so yes, I guess it's we being paid
but the big question around the Mighty USD as global reserve currency is still this one: if something happens to it, how do we "balance" accounts?
careful with the answer, then China is curious, too. and they love gold even more then we do
...but the big question around the Mighty USD as global reserve currency is still this one: if something happens to it, how do we "balance" accounts?
careful with the answer, then China is curious, too. and they love gold even more then we do
Nailed it!
Latvian paranoia is lacking ground and does not correspond with reality.
Latvia in real nobody wants. Told this before and bears again repeation.
Russians want? Not want.
"Syrian refugees" want? Not want.
Latvians want? Not want. Latvians many emigrate seeking bright European future, even for Poles and Romanians toilets to clean.
Latvia remaining Latvians somehow confined. Some to prison. Some to madhouse or facility clinical care of hereditary morons like potato hiretroll "message". This cultural derangement pours self-reinforcement feedsback.
NATO Latvia encroachment should be depicted taking advantage on mentally infirm.
Paul Eberhart was in a war once. www.pauleberhart.com
“NATO military planning generates confrontational approaches to security issues that in our view should belong to the past" when it is out of time "money" and the will to fight the biggest war it will ever wage after 14 years of rape, theft and murder only on those it could...
Fixed it!
"NATO Looks To Station Thousands Of Troops On Border With Russia."
What for? Europe is being invaded by Muslims, not Russians.
NATO is immune to these facts and will not let them get in the way of a good narrative.
Continued escalation.
if you take it in the context of the recent remodernation drive of the Russian armed forces, this means a NATO with less US in it, but also a Russian military force that is way, way less then before tooled to drive deep into western europe and way more to be an effective...
... well, the correct 19th Century term would be... colonial force
Well done, Vladimir Putin, no sarc whatsoever. In general we europeans now know much more clearly then before that you take the nuclear deterrent very seriously. this is stabilizing, we like it
we are still not that sure about Kremlin intentions in such areas as the Baltics, but the specifics of the remodernations give some hints that you plan more to be where Imperial Russia used to be
now please do the right thing in Syria, and we might even give you a few victory parades as we used to do for your Imperial precedessors
Incoherent Ghordius, not sure what you want to say. The simple fact is that Russia has saved Europe quite a few times whether from Mongols, German Expansionism or French Expansionism. It withdrew peacefully from Western Europe. I find it hard to stigmatise Russians and hold up France, Italy and Germany as somehow laudable when they have invaded most countries in Europe - after all it was Italy that invaded Greece before Germany.
So, if the US wants to get a motley crew of soldiers smoking and drinking on the Russian frontier so what ? We know they are manning listening posts. the simple fact is the Kalibr cruise missiles are a deterrent if things get problematic and the support for Russia in Eastern Germany which provides the bulk of Bundeswehr soldiers nowadays suggests that Berlin will not want to get involved.
Poland is paranoid but desperately wants Galicia prised out of Ukraine. Simple truth is Germany cannot afford to prop up Ukraine now it has blown its budget by a 15% increase to cater for illiterate peasants imported from Kosovo and Albania and Afghanistan under guise of war-weary Syrians. €45 bn a year on them means Porkyschenko will need to get cocoa for his chocolate from Washington
Am I stigmatizing Russians, here? If yes, that was not the intention. I'll put it more simply:
before: a Russian army that was still tooled for a great frontal assault. after: a smaller, more professional and better equipped army more tooled for "colonial" war
Russia was and still is an empire, in fact the only one that more or less has the same sphere of influence as two hundred years ago, if not simply for the reason that all of it was not overseas
but all in all this gives me a better digestion. then I was sick about the sabre rattling without knowing what exactly they were up to
France and Britain still have their "soft" empires, if this is needed to appease your sense of equanimity. And Germany is building up it's own (again), in a way
I appreciate your vast knowledge on many things but I feel that we sometimes really misunderstand each other. Don't you live in the one country that invaded nearly everybody else, with some very few exceptions?
Maybe it is time for all of the little boys to grow up.
Or maybe it is time for both NATO and Russia to assault Basel and the international banks.
hinting at the BIS? it's the bank of central banks, yes, but not their boss, quite the opposite, actually
Theatre. When Putin has finally had enough of Uncle Sugar's provocations, 1000 men won't be nearly enough to stop the Russian army liberating Berlin (again) in a matter of days, possibly hours.
Not fooling anybody but yourselves, lads. How about putting your toys to real use? Keeping out the real (Muslim) invasion force surging through Europe unopposed would be nice.
When the Cold War ended, everyone breathed a sigh of relief. Why the fuck is NATO still around?
Because it's the European franchise of the MiC
NATO exists to keep the Russians out of Europe and the Germans in.
All this posturing. The Arab Spring. Syria. Ukraine. It all happened because Berlin and Moscow started working a little too well together for London's liking.
Why the fuck is NATO still around?
$$$$$$$$$$
Seems like when Gorbachev and Yeltsin proffered Glasnost, that conditions were agreed upon by the Bush the 1st administration.
One of these conditions was that Nato would refrain from including former Warsaw Pact members into Nato, and further refrain
from building up military forces on the Russian border. Seems like those conditions have been breached long ago, and continue
to get worse. Makes you wonder what their response would have been if they'd had the ol' crystal ball.
The world actually ended on 19th August, 1989. Everything afterward has simply been a shadow of a future that ran through the minds of the Soviet leaders when they were debating whether to fall alone, or take everyone else with them.
800 to 1000 troops? That's just enough to "sell" a full scale war mobilization to the US people when they get "hit" by the evildoers. Hey, it worked for Roosevelt, right? How many of these NATO soft targets they plant will tell us how much they really want to get "hit". Remember, the neocons have been working overtime since 1991 to rebuild Russia as the mother of all enemies, to the US at least. This is an inter-generational project for them. That's why they all need to die a quick and sudden death so peaceful people can go back to their productive lives. It's Emperor Palpatine writ large, while Russia is invading Tatooine and the US is stirring up trouble on Endor. Sorry for the star wars analogies, but FUCK!
I don't know but Prague, Vienna, Budapest or Wroclaw are the gems of European architecture that any Western European ghetosized hellholes could not match in a thousands of years.
I don't know but Prague, Vienna, Budapest or Wroclaw are the gems of European architecture that any Western European ghetosized hellholes could not match in a thousands of years.
Russia should station a few battalions on the Mexican border.
"Pssst. Bring your own water."
So we stick NATO military on Europe's Russian border whilst looking the other way as fundamentalist islam invades, occupies and dominates the EU countries.
As islam conquers by infiltration, immigration and bloodshed.
In five years Europe will be overwhelmed by islamic terror.
In ten to fifteen the Russian border will be with the Caliphate of Europe.
Are our politicians as stark raving as they appear?
LOL pls adjust your tinfoil hat your neocon bullshit is showing.
Like Russia doesn't have enough territory already
Like it wants to be bothered with former USSR states
Give the US credit - nobody flings and sells bullshit and fear like they do
Nobody swallows it better than their people do
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Referring here to Obama or Breedlove?
I'd still do Becky Quick and I doubt any of the Republicans on stage last night would disagree (even Fiorina).
off topic
I believe with continued successes by Russia in Syria and beyond in the ME that things are going to change. If Syria stabilizes and ISIS is routed out of there Russia will be heroes. If that starts to stem the tide of refugees to Europe even better. If many are convinced to return to the region it is a home run. Europeans will embrace Russia if it means stopping or controlling the Muslim/Refugee issue. The ME may look very different by New Years. I don't think anything substantive will be done by a lameduck administration. By the time a new one gets into office I think a sea change will have taken place.
Cracks have been forming in NATO for a while. I think they will widen next year. Russia is winning real wars and the PR ones also. US foreign and military policy is in shambles. We won't be fighting third rate countries or insurgents. It now has the posibility of going to full conventional warfare with modern forces who have nukes, and lots of them. We are not prepared for this. We have been on a roll since Desert Storm and have let it gone to our heads. Members of NATO are starting to realize that this could go horribly wrong. There won't be some Marshall Plan to rebuild them if this goes full retard. Europe will be dead.
Paradigm shifts are a bitch...
Too many "if"s in your post. First, reality on the ground is different from what is delivered to you on TV. Syrian army does not progress, ISIS is advancing and Assad does not represent anyone in syria. If you watch also other channels than RT, you see that in lebanon people got very angry on russia, not to say even in aleppo in syria were mass demonstrations against putler and so on.
Russia is not a high-tech power and does not have the kind of money to stabilize ME and also can not offer future prospects. Everyone knows how russian companies work and thats why most of them are bankrupt (like the whole country). Russia does not produce anything else than weapons and extraction of natural resources. Not even a good movie:))
What you see is what you get, because you simply do not want to understand that all this shit is just a cheap propaganda. Results=0.
Assad doesn't represent anyonr in Syria? The Syrian people support Assad since they know what the jihadis will do to them.
The problem is what assad did to his own people. That's why, he is going only to putler to lick his boots 'cause no-one wants him as president.
Syrian people support assad? where that comes from?! probably RT. Now, you guys are in love with putler and assad. When new round of T-shirts "we are assad"?
Who's next? erdogan or kim jong un or some ayatollah? better all three.
One needs a good sense of humor because you guys fully lost the sense of ridiculousness.
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Comes from June 2014 election results. Why do you are democracy hating?
sure sweety. "2014 elections". Like the ones in russia, north-coreea, crimeea, and so on...
"elections":)) 99,5 our president is elected. wow.
really, you made my day, its funny to read your posts. you funny little boy.
Half of Syria was fighting Assad long before we invented ISIS to topple him.
It is in your unhealthy fantasies.
Beware the red arrows, this site has become a Putin fan club page. His past crimes and actions do not matter to these people. As long as he's slapping the US in the face he is their God.
it is more about truth and facts. And thinking people.
You appear to be grossly misinformed or willfully ignorant. Or is that just your day job?
We shall see: http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/615466/Vladimir-Putin-refugee-crisis-Islamic-State-ISIS-Syria-Bashar-Assad
The times are a changing... Will you be left behind?
No "refugees" will return to the ME regardless of how things shape up there in the future. Why would they leave their new found land of free shit to return to their old land of shit?
NATO, bwahhaaaaaa that'll make 'em crap his pannies. Europe is a goner with the influx of radical muslims, err i mean refugees. They're the test program and they don't even know it. Good luck with that.
Russia is like a midlle age country: one guy farts (putler) and one hundred little heroes go on talking about its smell:)
Butthurt Romanian eats poo from the sandbox and vomits here. The stench he then blames on...... sneaky Putin.
Sweety, romania does not give a fart on putler. Besides, would you be so kind and stop vomitting on the carpet, honey?
did you get your paycheck(in rubles:)))) )
It is understood that invoking your deity with the term "putler" your masturbation enhances.
Please to remember, though, if you travel to a civilized country, such fapping in public is frowned upon.
At least he doesn´t fart sulphur, like your heroes.
There is a difference between NATO (led by the US under President Peace Prize) and Russia: one is all talk and the other is prepared to walk the talk.
NATO's mission ended 25 years ago. What is its mission now?? Maintain the US Dollar as the world's currency and promote Brussels fascism? Overthrow the Russian Republic to make it part of the New World Order? Allow the quiet Islamizataion of Europe? If it has a mission, no one dares tell the public now.
END NATO.
USSA -
When all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail!
Doubt that Russia is going to invade NATO, so is NATO positioning to invade Russia? Idiots. Bring it! (And bring your lunch.)
"NATO positioning to invade Russia?"
ok, we europeans are dense, more often then not. but invading Russia? which method, Napoleon's or Hitler's?
we want their oil, their refined oil products and their nat gas. they want our goods in exchange
we look at Russia and see a kind of Canada and Saudi Arabia rolled in one. prickly, sometimes dangerous, ok. nevertheless, a neighbour for trade
but invade Russia? if any general would ever seriosly even utter such rubbish it would be over, and goodbye all those links and friendship we have
Unfortunately he was talking about NATO and not Europe. NATO is not controlled by Europe my dear Ghordi and you are certainly aware of who controls it. I agree, however, most Europeans wouldn't be stupid enough to try to invade Russia for Lebensraum anymore, at least not in a democratic Europe that is.
3 battalions. massing of troops. LOL.
Love the hyperbole.
How can NATO troops have a nice sleep knowing that couple of Iskanders and Topol-Ms are aiming at them.
800 soldiers = 795 support troops + 5 infantry soldiers...We couldn't beat Vietnam, Afghanistan takes our punches and laughs at our face, Iraq kicked us out and NOW we think we can take on RUSSIA? Ah, Russia is not exactly Grenada [we did win there, didn't we?]...
Let's be serious for a minute. Should Russians ever come to a decision to launch a proper advance into central / western Europe - NATO forces stationed there will not even make a dent. Might as well forget it.
800 - 1000 men? That's just another, criminal, waste of my tax money. Some uniformed bozo decided to splash around my money to make our "allies" feel "safer". What's a few hundred million between friends. In some ways, I would like to see Russians invade - to at least see some return on this investment.
NATO can't afford it. It is that simple. NATO in Europe exists as entries on a spreadsheet for the most part already. NATO could not even pull together 7500 guys for QRF and had to resort to training up local militia volunteers in these border countries. NATO is not a credible threat.
I can understand criticism of Putin
but how can any reasonably intelligent and honest person not see that NATO is and has been acting aggressively for years - largely to justify its ongoing existence.
and where there is NATO - there is often Israel.
Be it Georgia or Ukraine...
Great news! :D
You are a troll amongst trolls, newsoutlet.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/History_of_NAT...
fuck you.
Define troll, you troll.
Great news for Latvia! Eight hundreds NATO troops will increase annual Latvian tourism statistics fourfold! :D
NATO is 70% USA and the USA is 100% war whooping, flag waving, fascistic, insane,,, and have you got a nickel to spare,,,, broke.
The terrorists at NATO (OTAN) in their new shiny headquarters sucking the blood out of anything that moves are scared shitless their gig is about up if they don't find some excuse for existence no matter how small.
Killing and maiming the young cannon fodder that were made jobless by the unrelenting offshoring of production to their play enemies (China) is of no concern to these psycho's. Their only interest is the grand checkerboard, moving these young expendable chunks of humanity meat from square to square hoping to intimidate another nation so the fat useless money lenders can capture its resources.
The whole matter would be a comedy if it weren't for their willingness to eradicate all life on the planet in a, "If I can't have her,,, no one can have her", jealousy tantrum that would make a toddler blush with envy.
The sad thing is citizens wrapping themselves around their flag alter, singing God Bless America on one hand, while flipping him off with the other, willing to bet ALL their chips on losers they comically call leaders.
The present election in the USA is a billboard picture of lunacy. Vote for the most charismatic, or the most sarcastic, or the best looking, or the correct color of choice but NEVER what's good for the nation. A putred , nauseating gaggle of troglodytes there ever was chortling for the High Priestess spot trying to best each other on who would use the military the most to kill and intimidate.
A joke for the species if there ever was one.
Well said.
Identity politics as a "divide and conquer."
Secret police.
M.I.C.
Bankruptcy.
Fascism.
Sounds like it is time to bulk up the missiles in Kaliningrad again.
Village idiot’s convention redux. Russia has circa 5000 tactical nuclear weapons on its western border. Should hostilities break out, Europe will be reduced to a smoldering mass within 15 minutes. Did Europe learn anything from WWI and WWII? Apparently not.
http://www.theautomaticearth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/NatoExpansio...
Yawn.....I'm sure Russians are losing a lot of sleep over this US instigated troup buildup on border. This would be a 5 minute speed bump if Russia ever had to go westward.
EU Vassal States cannot say no to NATO's US war mongering neocon masters. Russia televison showing muslim (migrant ) invaders entering into EU countries caused by failed neocon foreign policy in the ME. Most Russians feel empathy and sadness for fellow Europeans. Meanwhile, Russia’s army at 1 million but the ready reserve is over 20 million with a follow capability of total mobilization of over 40 more million.
Hey MOTARDS Russia has the GDP of Italy. It would not be a fair fight by an order of magnitude unless strategic nukes were exchanged.
The use of tactical nukes on heavy armour would put a whole new spin on the outcome probabilities assuming the strategic nuke trip wire is not twanged.
It would be intersting to see how probability distributions vary with the number of tactical nukes fired vs the trip wire being hit.
Sure hope they don't use the same modelling consultants trying to figure when to raise interest rates without triggering a deflationary spiral.
"Russia has the GDP of Italy"
WOW - this is a shocker to me - is it true ?
Why does the physically largest country in world, with the most natural resources of all countries, with technology advanced enough to make space stations, ICBMs, MIRVs, tactical superiority fighters, etc etc etc
have a GDP that is *ONLY* at the level of Italy - a country with horrific over-population, horrific infrastructure, no natural resources, crippling government corruption and religious ideology, etc ?????????????????????
yeah dude, take a brake: it means they are f..ing poor and desperate to get international attention. Capisci?
The rest is just bullshit. No-one gives a shit on what putin is saying.
now, watch a movie.
America is fully aware that the way to draw Russia into a conflict is to push forward towards Russia’s borders. In time, Russia will be forced to defend its right to exist, and when this happens, western powers will not know what hit them!
http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/03/22/4790
A friend of mine returned from a visit to the Baltics and Poland about six weeks ago or so. He told me he saw a war zone, complete with TENS OF THOUSANDS OF NATO TROOPS, {including both American and Canadian divisions}. He spoke with several NATO officers, and from their discussions it was obvious to him that war with Russia is in the cards.
Tens of thousands versus HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF SCO TROUPS. It will be interesting for the short duration before it all goes nuclear!!
Russia and China are the founding member states of The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) an intergovernmental economic and military alliance of mutual security.
Shanghai Cooperation Organization Forces:
Active personnel 5,325,000
Reserve personnel 7,675,000
Available personnel for immediate activation and Conscription 192,039,958
Total of personnel 205,039,958
The economic and numerical might of China, together with the military prowess and vast nuclear arsenal of Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM7mhTQ5UTI
Ziocons get their way again then. Scary stuff.
The Canadians will be gone soon.
They saw the light.
"That said, it’s important to remember that one of the principal reasons for deteriorating relations between Moscow and the West is the conflict in Ukraine. "
Actually no - this is an inversion.
The US-sponsored coup in Ukraine was an *expression* of the ongoing Grand Chessboard game of the Militarist Realists like Zbig, married to a long standing Jewish and Zionist war on Russia {Nuland, Kagan, et al}
Russia is targeted by the One Worlders for various reasons - its natural resources, to better control its central bank - to break it up and flood it with immigrants...
And this largely overlaps with a concurrent but essentially disparate *JEWISH* war on Russia that has gone on for centuries [Jewish per se, not "Zionist" which has to do with the colonization of Palestine to create an ethnic state, and its later expansion].
Lots and lots of pogroms in Poland and in the Pale of Settlement under the Tsars - while the "elite" certainly treated the host population with contempt, they were largely thrust into those roles by Polish nobles and the church - and most of the people murdered by Polish or Russian peasants were entirely innocent.
That said, the Bolshevik Revolution was absolutely led by Jews, with American financial backing - and they deliberately targeted Christians and christianity. This is largely memory-holed, and so it is elsewhere over-stated, but the *Old Bolsheviks* were about as Jewish as the neocons of today are.
Now - more recent history has to do with efforts by a large handful of Jewish oligarchs and economists - helped by fellow Jews in the US {what would Henry Ford say?} to rob Russia blind under Yeltsin. People actually starved to death as a result of the hobbling of Russia's economy.
http://www.softpanorama.org/Skeptics/Pseudoscience/harvard_mafia.shtml
Putin largely disgorged these Jewish oligarchs by playing some against others.
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/06/video-the-rise-of-putin-and...
Bear in mind - RUSSIA IS LESS THAN 2% JEWISH. That almost all of the oligarchs were Jews is not because they were financial geniuses. Jewish ethnonepotism and networking, internationally, allowed them to box others out.
Even after Putins purges:
"he Jews of Russia are doing very well, thank you, without Holocaust worship: they occupy the highest positions in the Forbes list of Russia’s rich, with a combined capital of $122 billion, while all rich ethnic Russians own only $165 billion, according to the Jewish-owned source. "
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/01/21/trolling-russia/
That, and his efforts to get Russia's national bank under control are large part of the attacks on russia and Putin personally by the western media and governments.
Organized Jewry, as the phrase used to go, really does largely control media in the US, and to a lesser extent Canada, France, UK, Ukraine, and Russia itself.
Think there's any chance they might co-ordinate some?
This has pretty much nothing to do with the average american Jew of course - but let's be honest about how language is used.
We say "the Russians" all the time.
People speak of "Muslims" all the time.
But no one in those cases is concerned about being sure to qualify it as "not all Russians" or "not all Muslims".
Yet when speaking of the fact that the Bolsheviks were largely/mostly Jews, or that the men who raped Russia economically after the USSR fell were *overwhelmingly Jews aided by other Jews* - or when speaking of the neocons
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-28/embracing-dark-side-short-histo...
We aren't supposed to use the J word at all, or if we do - we have to qualify it every 4th sentence.
Well so be it - it should be obvious that the average person is not involved in this sort of thing, but it should also be clear that a large part of the Russia critics are the same Jewish neocons who wanted the Iraq War {for Israel} so badly.
It was Nuland coordinating with Pyatt and working with Jeff Feltman -all of them Jews - who worked on the coup in Ukraine
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/05/25/the-elevation-of-jeffrey-feltman/
A coup that left the top 3 positions in the new government filled by people who are of largely Jewish extraction
- President Petro Poroshenko
- Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk
- Chairman of Parliament Volodymyr Groysman
THIS IS REMARKABLE AS JEWS ARE LESS THAN 1% of the population.
All this said, what am I saying - am I saying its "the joos" - nope, as should be clear, but that is inevitable summary from the Thought Police.
What I'm saying is the war against Russia is and has been largely a Jewish {Jewish per se - not "Zionist" as Israel aqua nation state has little to do with it - this is Jewish megalomania} war.
That is - by the Jewish "elite".
Of course zbigniew brzezinski is a Polish nominal Catholic. McCain is nominally Catholic too - when non-Jews are 98% of your population, its obvious that most of the militarists will be too.
But it seems that, as in Ukraine, which is rich in Jewish oligarchs and media owners, and former {or "former"} IDF soldiers and sayanim - to ignore the role of "elite" Jews, in the American Deep State, and internationally, out of fear that a Danepol, or a Yomutti, or some other fundamentally disingenuous asshole will cry and whine about it - not caring to challenge any specifics, mind you - then we are NOT able to ACTUALLY discuss everything that's going on.
As we could very well be sliding into a hellish world war, I say - let's be honest and fair and if discussions re the Jewish role in all this offends some...
fuck 'em.
Are you saying is good to attack Ukraine and build land on water? I wonder what the russians and chinese intentions are?
Thanks NATO for your stupidity . Make sure that your bases are densely populated by soldiers so that it is much easier to wipe then out in one go !
NATO is run by retarded morons , You will regret it !
What kind of moron would join the US military? Full disclosure: I'm a veteran, oops!
It gets mighty chilly on the Russian Front - just ask the Froggies and the Krauts!