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Ron Paul Rages "We Must Oppose Obama's Escalation In Syria & Iraq!"
Submitted by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,
Ealier this week, Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter appeared before the Senate Armed Services Committee to outline a new US military strategy for the Middle East. The Secretary admitted the failure of the US “train and equip” program for rebels in Syria, but instead of taking the appropriate lessons from that failure and get out of the “regime change” business, he announced the opposite. The US would not only escalate its “train and equip” program by removing the requirement that fighters be vetted for extremist ideology, but according to the Secretary the US military would for the first time become directly and overtly involved in combat in Syria and Iraq.
As Secretary Carter put it, the US would begin “supporting capable partners in opportunistic attacks against ISIL (ISIS), or conducting such missions directly, whether by strikes from the air or direct action on the ground.”
"Direct action on the ground” means US boots on the ground, even though President Obama supposedly ruled out that possibility when he launched air strikes against Iraq and Syria last year. Did anyone think he would keep his word?
President Obama claims his current authority to conduct war in Iraq and Syria comes from the 2001 authorization for the use of force against those who attacked the US on 9/11, or from the 2002 authorization for the use of force against Saddam Hussein. Neither of these claims makes any sense. The 2002 authorization said nothing about ISIS because at the time there was no ISIS, and likewise the 2001 authorization pertained to an al-Qaeda that did not exist in Iraq or Syria at the time.
Additionally, the president’s year-long bombing campaign against Syrian territory is a violation of that country’s sovereignty and is illegal according to international law.
Congress is not even consulted these days when the president decides to start another war or to send US ground troops into an air war that is not going as planned. There might be notice given after the fact, as in Secretary Carter’s testimony today, but the president has (correctly) concluded that Congress has allowed itself to become completely irrelevant when it comes to such grave matters as war and peace.
I cannot condemn in strong enough terms this ill-advised US military escalation in the Middle East. Whoever concluded that it is a good idea to send US troops into an area already being bombed by Russian military forces should really be relieved of duty.
The fact is, the neocons who run US foreign policy are so determined to pull off their regime change in Syria that they will risk the lives of untold US soldiers and even risk a major war in the region — or even beyond – to escalate a failed policy. Russian strikes against ISIS and al-Qaeda must be resisted, they claim, because they are seen as helping the Assad government remain in power, and the US administration is determined that “Assad must go.”
This is not our war. US interventionism has already done enough damage in Iraq and Syria, not to mention Libya. It is time to come home. It is time for the American people to rise up and demand that the Obama Administration bring our military home from this increasingly dangerous no-win confrontation. We must speak out now, before it is too late!
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Can´t heal stupid.
George Armstrong Custer must be giggling in his grave.
His arrogance and stupidity are alive and well and have been adopted as our Foreign Policy. He, at least, died with his soldiers. Today’s “geniuses” send others to die or get maimed for their delusions.
I wonder if our involvement in Iraq/Syria will end as shamefully as in Vietnam, with helicopters picking up people from the Embassy’s roof. Will we ever learn?
Looney
1975 Flashback: Evacuation of Saigon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1xuTJqZ20MLooney
Worse. I suspect that just like in Ancient Rome, legions of soldiers, outposts, etc. will just be cut off as the mothership implodes off in the horizon.
The alternative, which I have not ruled out at all is a MIC overthrow of DC. Who would argue against arresting most of the DC on charges of treason, racketeering, etc. And we all know the NSA has enough dirt to bury the town. Just a matter of how the deep state really answers to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX_mSGXRlsI
I asked somebody who is generally in the know about what's going on why the US was bound and determined to get into Syria at this point, and he said that he was unaware of any legitimate reason or even an illegitimate reason at this point. The region is so unstable that no pipeline is going through there even if we were to topple Assad, so that's not it, or if it is, we're talking some really dumb motherfuckers in charge of this shitfest. His best guess was that somebody's ego was bruised by not getting their way.
el vaquero, israel is determined. israel's main source of water is the golan. that there is oil is double bonus. israel will keep the golan, no matter the cost to others. if syria remains intact, syria will push for the return of the golan, it is syria's, israel has taken it illegally. the water issue is paramount. there was talk of a peace park solution.
edit: to the downvoters...go search it. israel's water comes from the golan!! that's why israel is populating it. how can you dispute israel is grabbing water from the golan? links please
America a Satanic dealer of death the world over, sacrificing its youth, to murder foreigners, on behalf of Big Banks and Big Oil,
you're not wrong - its partly why they want lebanon, and they are already stealing Palestine's water.
Water and Israel's Occupation Strategy
by Joe Stork [published in MER116]
http://www.merip.org/mer/mer116/water-israels-occupation-strategy
Israel actively supports theft of Palestinian water, says new UN report
https://electronicintifada.net/content/israel-actively-supports-theft-pa...
Jewish "settlers" have also been befouling Palestinian water sources.
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/08/palestinian-villages-struggle-as-israeli-s...
then there's shit like this":
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/soldiers-palestinians-settlers
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/settler-palestinians-october
but to criticize Israel is to engage in "hate speech," I've heard.
Full.
Metal.
Orwell.
raymond H, thank you for the links. re: golan:http://icsr.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/1303987888ICRSR AtkinPerSeries Muna Dajani.pdf
Replace "Obama" with the "Military Industrial Complex" and the article will be more accurate. Obama is the puppet (and willingly so). For the truth, see who is pulling his strings. The US is in a perpetual state of war that spans far beyond one president. See Eisenhowers warning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
If you've never seen this video, they you are terribly uninformed.
I'm as anti-Israel as the next guy, but you have to admit that the Zionist Entity has as much right to keep the Golan in perpetuity as the USA has to keep Arizona.
Sorry for the mixed message, but the world is like that.
that's the zionist scheme, if you cant take it over and own it by illegitimate means, shit on it and destroy it as badly as you are capable of
But how does one use that Zionist strategy to one's benefit when engaging against Zionists?
The Lebanese Civil War provides some clues. What drove Ariel Sharon to cooperate with Hafez Assad at times? Syria was at that time, as now, a critical part of the pipeline from Hezbollah back to Terhan. Someone (in some dark basement somewhere) needs to lay the groundwork for a worse alternative (for Israel) should the Assad regime fall.
The Assad family is not liked by the Abdullah family. The Haweitat families want it all and Obama / CIA are to stupid to know how to control them any more.
operation neverending desert clusterfuck
From chaos, order. I think the NWO plan at this point is to total wreck the whole region and come in later and take over all the resources, Probably throw all the countries into some sort of Middle East Union too. Sure hundreds of millions will suffer and or die, but hey if you're working for Satan like the NWO is, that's probably viewed as an accomplishment.
If Satan was running this operation it would have been all wrapped up by know.
Truth is we're already run by the corporation called the NWO.
They have regional offices in D.C., London, Frankfurt, Tokyo, Moscow, and Beijing along with sub-regional offices all over the world.
They just keep allowing us to believe our quaint little delusions about Constitutional Republics, national sovereignty, liberty and all that other crap.
They keep claiming they're working on bringing about a New World Order allowing us the delusion that we still have a chance to stop their total dominion over the world.
They claim they want world peace, prosperity, education, and all the other socialist drivel, but their actions prove otherwise.
Instead we have endless war, economic strife, poverty, poor medical care, poor educational outcomes, and very little prosperity.
If you spend five minutes thinking about it you'll realize the New World Order is the current state of affairs and not some utopia where all the peoples of the world live peaceful prosperous lives.
I agree they're all running things right now, but they have to get people to accept the technocratic world governement when they publically roll it out in the next 10 years or so. The way they will do that is first cause regional instability, and then WWIII. Throw the world into chaos, then people will willingly embrace anything that will save them from it.
Its just part of the 'Great Game' of controlling the Resources in EurAsia / Middle East. Thats all.
Pretty much spot on in my opinion.
old highschool saying, can't fix stupid, but you can fuck it.
Sorry, it’s not his fault, it is just that his Master, the Saudis’, are whip-sawing Obama's ass with conflicting instructions from Riyadh between Races at the Camel Downs Race Track......
You just better hope she doesn't pop out any spawns of Satan nine months later with your DNA.
another old highschool saying, "daddy, gimme a quarter". to remind friends to use a condom. you could buy them at some of the gasstations around town to avoid detection from the small town gossips.
"...Can´t heal stupid..."
There is no need to heal anything - you get rid of the disease according to the good doctor:
If Gen. Dempsey - the JCOS - backed this, then put that Marine out to pasture as a lesson to other God Damn Israeli-firster traitors in the Pentagram. Ash Carter should just be sent on a plane to the Hauge - his war crimes trial(s) should be starting any day now. Say 'Hi' to fellow war criminal Tony Blair while you're there, Ash. Hope you both burn in hell for an eternity.
Just leave 'em in their uniforms and lower them from a copter into a place they're responsible for some hideous war crimes (there are lots of places to choose from). THAT would be real justice.
How many innocent Syrians, Libyans and Iraqis have these people murdered?
When it is done by a govt for a lie, 1 is too many.
Can't heal worshipers of Satan.
Stupid????!!!!!? (Laugh Track Deafening)
He is carrying out his instructions. Failure to do so is a mistake.
Provoking Russia & China - Check
WW III imminent - Check
Blah blah blah...
How do your know when a political puppet is lying? His lips are moving.
How they "speak" is fucking irrelevant, how they vote is important, maybe...
http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/296/ron-paul
blah blah?
The comment was in regard to politicians in general asshat. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit I take it? Paul is but one among how many now?
Actually, I studied semiotics.
did you?
Are you always so whiny?
Do you know what a fair inference is?
It's like when someone, such as you, makes a comments about all politicians, re an article by or about a specific politician.
By not excluding RP, your message pertained to him.
What about this confuses you.
do you want a diagram?
How about a ball to bounce, stupid?
LOL
War on terror = perpetual war. Duh.
Yeah, good old Rand Paul, playing patty-cake politics like his daddy. (Else might get thrown from the bus).
care to explain how Ron Paul played "patty=cake" politics?
I'm going to assume that you actually believe this - so what do you mean?
I voted for him, but I don't worship anybody.
Not since MJ died.
;]
Always on the periphery of the issues. Making good points. Is correct. But never really risking calling things out for what they are or taking more decisive action. Ron Paul played the same game.
Easy to like them. Especially as ZHers. But, they are trapped in the system and are playing the game to the limit they can to avoid being thrown from the bus. Is this smart? Or is something else? Who knows. But time is running out for someone to grow a pair. Until then, they are all just politicians to me.
Heeeeeeee Heeeeeee JamOnIt!!!
Moonwalking out the door now.............
Rand is not Ron. He takes lobby money and is owned by, among others, Israel, banksters and the MIC. He's better than McCain and those traitors but Rand is not Ron.
"We must speak out now, before it is too........aw shit!"
Yep, it's definitely too late.
They voted Paul Ryan, Obama's personal tea bagger, as House Leader.
"This is not our war.." Of course not, its The Global Criminal Oligarch Cabal Bankster Intelligence Crime Syndicates War
Whew, for a minute there I thought you were gonna blame it all on me.
The thought did cross my mind.
I respect Ron Paul, but not only does no one care, if anything it equips the Paul Ryans of the world with more rhetorical bullets.
who made owebomba pope of this dump?
The American body politic, of course (with a little help from N'Obama himself)!!
I think it was Diebold.
If there was a paper trail maybe we could get a recount?
I like how the Bush-Gore election fiasco in Florida helped usher in the age of digital/electronic vote counting.
the same company the produced the florida chad equipment also had an electronic voting group they were promoting at the time
All those soldiers could be Obama's sons...
He probably fucked all their mothers...
So you can bet your beercan on the fact that it's possible that he'll feel bad about the first 5000 soldiers who will die out there.
But in a way... those soldiers make about 250 dollars a week so the compensation should cover the greef...
totally out of control government, with no justice for those caught in illegal activities. maybe we should bring the troops home and start a war to liberate ourselves instead of every country in the mideast. just a seed of thought
Most of the in force law today is illegal as the way it is applied is in direct violation of all the State's and the states united Constitutions.
Statutes, regulations and codes are not for human beings, only for government authorities and contractors. As a US Citizen you are part of the body politic and have contracted with the Federal Government Corporation.
I will not contract with the US.
I am a human being, not a "legal fiction".
War is when the government tells you who the enemy is.
Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself.
-- some wise ZH guy
Ron is the man. He should be President.
Will never happen. He's not promissing to pay everybody's bill
And most importantly... why would white people vote for a white male president?
It's clearly a racist thing go do and everybody who votes for him hates women and must be a criminal.
And if you want to predict who will win, just look to the guy who will fuck it all up and make shit worse then before.
Trump that!
Trump would be worse than Bush and Obama.
The problem is, Bernie might win.
Better yet, there should be no president, no centralized forms of government, no right for any person or group of people to force their will upon another who has harmed nobody. Only then can there be true freedom for all.
Under current circumstances I prefer a small and limited central gov.This is the way it was meant to be from the start. The purpose of a central gov. is to provide for the peace and tranquility of the people.
Sad to say the central government was hijacked a long time ago. The people have been put to sleep and live in a created dream world.
Carter/Kerry/Obama turf war - the alpha male pissing on the other two. Nothing but ego in play anyway. Sad times.
and they'll do as Obama says as he's purged the military and removed any and all opposition to his new politically correct forces. Hey remember when Stalin did the same before WWII? How'd that work out?
well, finland kicked the shit out of them for 3 months. with no artillery no airforce or navy, and only light infantry and bicycle regiments.
inflicted a casualty ratio of 700 to 1 if my memory serves.
they used old ww1 machine guns very effectively. some of the finnish machine gunners were so traumatized by the mass killing they inflicted that they had to be institutionalized.
It's official. . . .
The Iraqi government never asked for and does not need any US involvement in ground operations against Islamic State terrorists. The eye-opening statement came only a day after the Pentagon promised its partner more ground support if it was required.
I guess that the US will consult with the Iraqi government on the matter to exactly the same degree as it did with the Syrian government before invading Syria.
This has nothing to do with politics any longer, it is a reaction to being hugely embarassed on the global stage. The desperate act of the schoolyard bully who has been shown that he is not the hard case that everyone had thought he was.
so how about proposing an impeachment resolution, Ron?
Against who? The entire congress? They could put a stop to this today if they wanted to. Why impeach POTUS? 14 months and he's gone, so why bother.
Sends a message to the next US emperor. You, of all avatars, should know that.
Why we can't squash ISIS so easily.
https://cqrcengage.com/act/app/document/10018886
As usual, RP is correct again. But, more importantly, what do the Israeli's think we should do?
This always was a failed strategy (using the term very loosely); the idea for O-man is to string this out as long as possible (Jan '17) doing as little as politically possible, so he's not accused of doing nothing, and then to dump this steamy pile on Hillary. So far, that strategy objective is working just fine.
The U.S. government can't contain Russia by force, or diplomatically, so their only other alternative is to use troops as human shields hoping that the Russians don't want to create an incident by bombing/shooting them. By doing this, they think the Russians won't attack certain assets and factions that U.S. troops are imbedded with.
Then, when such incident does occur, the U.S. will use it as a false flag, and go FULL RETARD.
Amen and right-on Ron.
The psychpathic monsters who call themselves US government seem to be hell bent on starting WWIII ASAP. They want to distract from their crimes against all of mankind, destroy all remaining freedoms to resist their murderous global plundering and fully enact a martial law police state to enforce a grinding tyranny.
Share this article with everyone. Speak up loud and clear, at every opportunity, against the criminals who call themselves government. We need to destroy whatever belief may remain in the minds of people about the legitimacy of the monsters who call themselves government having the "right" to commit massive crimes against mankind.
I second that.!
Ashton Carter's bloviating merits special attention, imo, and as well described by the RPI:
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/peace-and-prosperity/2015/octob...
I believe Obama is a puppet, even more so than Shrub, and that he was groomed from an early age to be the Hope-a-Dope.
One might note that as to Wall Street, the MIC, and Israel - Obama or Bush, superficially totally different, were basically the same.
The "Obama hates Israel" stuff comes from the far, Likudnik/Shas right of Zionism and is not to be taken seriously.
But all that aside - contrast Carter's statements with Obama's earlier lies:
http://libertyunyielding.com/2015/10/29/pentagon-spokesman-puts-lie-to-o...
How "independent" is the Deep State and CIA operations from the White House?
That is - is it not only possible that US troops, or US proxies could attack or be attacked by Russia or Russian proxies ... but possible, even likely, that US forces/proxies and/or Xe types could attack or be attacked by other Americans/proxies and/or Xe types?
This thing is chaotic no matter how you slice it - but one of the things we all seem to tacitly assume is that .gov acts as an entity, and Obama, puppet or not, directs things.
I think this unlikely. I think the Zionist {neocon} element, long a part of .gov, has had time, money, and motivation to form their own shadow deep state.
Further, I think the "laptop of death" came from them evey bit as much as a lot of the horseshit used to justify the Iraq War came from the Zionist Lie Factory in the OSP.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2004/01/lie-factory
That element, also active in Ukraine, could give a fuck about American interests.
If there isn't a civil war within the government of these united states now - perhaps there needs to be.
and soon.
I tend to agree. It is far more chaotic than controlled. .gov is on the verge of tearing itself apart.
To add to your link above regarding Iraq:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/29/politics/iraq-isis-military-combat/index.html
Lol common sense? Come on now Ron.
I think they should send in the one man war mongering super hero, Lindsay Graham. Wonder how long he would last in Syria?
as a soldier, or as one of their bitches?
He'd give them a licking they wouldn't soon forget.
If there is any justice left in the good soul of America, that entity (man or woman) should demand a gallows with a hanging rope be built next to the Washington Monument.
A sign at the base of the gallows reads, "Reserved for the traitors to the American people".
i can envision the anne worsham richardson portrait now, "the graham gobbler"
"But its too late baby now its too late"
"Something inside has died and I can't hide and I just can't take it---ohh--nooo"
+10 for the carole king reference
"Whoever concluded that it is a good idea to send US troops into an area already being bombed by Russian military forces should really be relieved of duty."
Umm maybe, unless the big picture goal is to embroil us in WW3 and then it is an act of sheer genius. So now RP has told his first official big lie as Speaker. Patiently awaiting his upcoming excuses as to why it turns out to be of vital importance to national security that we put boots on the ground in Iraq/Syria...ultimately Iran.
Ron Paul is not the new Speaker of the House of Representatives. That person is Paul Ryan who by the way, is now second in line to the Presidency of the United States.
He's just dyslexic and the Speaker of the House is 3rd in line with the Vice President second in line.
But, they're all NWO toadies so as Hillary quipped, what does it matter at this point.
You sir, are clearly confused about the line of succession.
"Succession" means to replace or to come next.
The Office of the President is not in the line of succession since it is the highest office and follows no one. The Vice President is first in line followed by the Speaker of the House of Representatives, second in line.
Refer to the Presidential Succession Act (see: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/19#.VjKBliv__ao ) .
Whether it's position 2 or 3 doesn't matter. What matters is that all three of these patriots are superb human beings that we can trust with our lives.
Come to think of it, we do ... shit.
Why is it exactly that it is in the interest of the uSa to go to all the trouble to relieve Assad of duty? Is it because they don't like his hairstyle? What exactly are Assad's bogeyman creds?
tia
He didn't go when Obama told him to and now they are totally POd at the arrogance of someone who refuses to be ordered around by Obama. No one can be allowed to get away with that.
He stands in the way of a Nat Gas pipeline to Europe from the south.
@Red Raspberry is there a map to show the proposed path of this pipeline?
Final military orders come from the Commander, (Fraudster) in Chief. Is Ron suggesting impeachment of O?
Lyndon LaRouche and his group are committed and working night and day to bring about the removal of Obama from office. But with butt wipes like Lawnchair John, you couldn't expect any real action from the failed Republicants.
http://investmentwatchblog.com/video-former-us-lawmaker-says-every-candi...
The American people, save about a quarter or less of us, deserve the thermonuclear holocaust that they are setting us up for. Through either apathy or enthusiastic endorsement, history hath shown that you cannot Butcher millions and not pay the reaper for it.
Let Israel's aggression be done by Israel. Enough of America being Israel's bitch.
Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard: CIA Must Stop Illegal, Counterproductive War to Overthrow Assad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Q8X60KQ9Q
Awesome interview. Awesome lady.
She would be a better president then most of the candidates.
Share broadly.
This country is a runaway train. The only ending is... KABOOM!
spray paint in red: FTG on all fed property you can (fuck the government)
at least someone is telling the truth