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The Constitution's Big Lie

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Submitted by Antonius Aquinas via AntoniasAquinas.com,

One of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated upon Americans at the time of its telling and which is still trumpeted to this very day is the notion that the U.S. Constitution contains within its framework mechanisms which limit its power. The “separation of powers,” where power is distributed among the three branches – legislative, executive, judicial – is supposedly the primary check on the federal government’s aggrandizement.

This sacred held tenet of American political history has once again been disproved.

Last Friday (October 23), the Attorney General’s office announced that it was “closing our investigation and will not seek any criminal charges” against former Internal Revenue Service’s director of Exempt Organizations, Lois Lerner, or, for that matter, anyone else from the agency over whether they improperly targeted Tea Party members, populists, or any other groups, which voiced anti-government sentiments or views.

The Department of Justice statement read:

The probe found ‘substantial evidence of mismanagement, poor judgment and institutional inertia leading to the belief by many tax-exempt applicants that the IRS targeted them based on their political viewpoints. But poor management is not a crime.’ (My emphasis)

Incredibly, it added:

We found no evidence that any IRS official acted based on political, discriminatory, corrupt, or other inappropriate motives that would support a criminal prosecution.

That the DOJ will take no action against one of its rogue departments demonstrates the utter lawlessness and totalitarian nature of the federal government. The DOJ’s refusal to punish documented wrongdoing by the nation’s tax collection agency shows the blatant hypocrisy of Obummer, who promised that his presidency would be one of “transparency.”

It can be safely assumed that Congress will not follow up on the matter, as Darrell Issa (R-Ca.), who chaired a committee to investigate the bureau’s wrong doings, admitted that its crimes may never be known. The DOJ and Issa’s responses are quite predictable once the nature of the federal government and, for that matter, all governments are understood.

Basic political theory has shown that any state is extremely reluctant to police itself or reform unless threatened with destruction, take over, or dismemberment (secession). The Constitution has given to the federal government monopoly power where its taxing and judicial authority are supreme. It will not relinquish such a hold nor will it seek to minimize such power until it is faced with one of these threats.

While it was called a federated system at the time of its enactment and ever since by its apologists, the reality of the matter is quite different. As the Constitution explicitly states in Art. VI, Sect. 2, the central government is “the supreme law of the land.” The individual states are inferior and mere appendages to the national government – ultimate control rests in Washington.

In fact, it was the Constitution’s opponents, the much derided Antifederalists, who were the true champions of a decentralized system of government while their more celebrated opponents such as Madison, Hamilton and Jay wanted an omnipotent national state.

Thus, in the American context, the only method for those oppressed by the federal government is to either threaten or actually go through with secession. Attempts to alter its dictatorial rule through the ballot box or public protests are futile. While there will naturally be outrage at letting the IRS off the hook, focus and anger must be redirected away from participation within the current political system to that of fundamental change.

Congress’ refusal to prosecute an executive bureau that has deliberately used (and is still using) state power to oppress and harass opponents of the Obama regime demonstrates the bankruptcy of the idea that separation of power limits tyranny. Federal power and the corresponding tyranny and corruption which it has bred has never been countered by the checks and balances and separation of powers of the supposed “federal republic” created a little over two centuries ago.

Until the “big lie” of the Constitution is realized, agencies like the IRS will continue to target and tyrannize anti-government organizations, groups, and individuals. The Constitution provides no real mechanism for the redress of grievances from the subjects which it rules. Only when the breakup of the federal Union has taken place, will American liberties and freedoms be secured.

 

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Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:25 | 6733160 Grandad Grumps
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People who do not abide by laws, morals and ethics will always exist and any law of document esyablishing a system of laws is only as good and true as the people who administer it. Why self-serving psychopaths are made guardians of the law, then there is no law, only power at the barrel of a gun.

The constitution is great and there are legal ways to amend it. Unfortunately, those whose responsibility it is to abide by the constitution and the rules created to amend it, completely ignore that which they are sworn to uphold and just do whatever the f*ck they want. And, because they have the biggest and most guns and are organized, they get away with it.

It would be nice to see them pass an amendment instead of ignoring the constitution.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:26 | 6733162 90's Child
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As it's been said time and time again.

"Land of the fleeced, home of the slave"

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:31 | 6733283 Pairadimes
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To the legion of ersatz philosophers who would blame the contemporary state of affairs in America on some perceived flaw in the Constitution, I suggest some reflection:

 

"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it." - Justice Learned Hand

"If human beings are fundamentally good, no government is necessary; if they are fundamentally bad, any government, being composed of human beings, would be bad also." - Fred Woodworth

“No people will tamely surrender their liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and virtue is preserved. On the contrary, when people are universally ignorant, and debauched in their manners, they will sink under their own weight without the aid of foreign invaders.” - Samuel Adams

“America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great." - Alexis de Tocqueville

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:46 | 6733302 greenskeeper carl
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As the late, great Lysander Spooner said, "the constitution either authorizes the government to exist in its present form or is powerless to stop it. Either way, it is not fit to exist" (im paraphrasing, but you get the point)

 

our system of checks and balances still relies on the government and its employees to act to limit its own power. This has never worked in the past, why is anyone surprised that it isn't working now?

 

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:17 | 6733350 Billy the Poet
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Sad but true. When I was a kid I loved the Spirit of '76 and the red, white and blue but it was mostly an illusion. The concept of individual liberty is sound but any time you let an elite class protect your liberty you will inevitably lose it.

The only part of the Constitution that empowers those outside government are the second and tenth amendments but apparently the only thing that will kick the second amendment into gear would be an attempt by the Federal government to rescind that amendment. The stupidity of government and the possibly that they will try to do just that is perhaps our only hope.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:42 | 6733371 wee-weed up
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Correction - this is NOT in any way a fault of this country's brilliant Constitution!

But rather, it is the fault of this blatantly "unconstitutional" President who lied his ass off when he took the oath to uphold the Constitution.

He has continually shit all over this document and our proud country which he proclaims needs changing. Of course, all his changes have turned out to be turds in the Nation's toilet - see the ZH post above about ObozoCare.

Fuck you, Obozo!

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:42 | 6733383 Billy the Poet
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So when Obama caused the US government to break its own rules for the past two hundred or more years was he using a time machine or what?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 01:33 | 6733436 TruxtonSpangler
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Who edits these articles, stevie wonder??

This week, once again, this sacred held tenet of American political history has once again been disproved.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 02:09 | 6733456 weburke
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fucking guy named aquinas bugs US about our dilemma. why doesnt he tell us about their genius plan for us. more likely, he is just a tool who knows not what the goal is, how many people his rulers have slated to die, and if even -HE- will dodge the various methods of depopulation heading his (and our ) way. Thanks aquinas, you and the other slaves who serve those who you do not know, think you must rub it in to us who have NOT betrayed the hopes of men. Fuck you and all the servants of the coming doom.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 05:47 | 6733545 zhandax
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Sadly congress has the power to eliminate the DOJ and assign SCOTUS to offices in the basement bathroom.  They have abdicated their authority in the interest of bigger campaign contributions.  They should all be swinging from lampposts.  Remember this IF you go vote.  You don't have to support anyone in particular, just vote out the incumbent.   Don't believe the media horseshit.  The longer they have been there, the more they need to go.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:21 | 6733677 Took Red Pill
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I thought, according to the Constitution, Congress was supposed to vote to declare war. The POTUS, as commander-in-chief, has the power to defend the country against a sudden attack. But Congress is obligated to vote on whether to declare and continue the war. Our Nobel Peace Prize winning president, who got elected primarily because of his promise to end the wars, has bombed 7 different countries; Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Iraq and now Syria. Now he's increasing troops in Iraq and putting boots on the ground in Syria. When do we or our representatives get to vote on these wars? There was no threat of a sudden attack!

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:36 | 6734008 New_Meat
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what happens when the Nobel Piece Prize goes to your head.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:02 | 6734377 azusgm
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Congress told him "no" about Syria once before. Let's see if they'll do it again.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 03:55 | 6733508 OldPhart
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To be fair,and balanced, this didn't happen under our current, unqualified, Kenyan borne, piece of shit, Resident.

This shit happened long ago, back in the Eisenhower days and progressed to where we are today.  The fact that our white nigger house boy caters to his owners is nothing different from Johnson forward.  Kennnedy, the whore monger, is the sole example necessary for all others to get into compliance once they get into office,

The psychopaths that hold public office OWE people for getting them there

The fact that we, common people, are too disorganized to put up representatives to declare that we are owed anything is ignored.  That's why TARP was done.  We're too disorganzed, and we're too indepentent to be organized in any way.  To us, political organization is a dirty word.  Something filthy.  We don't want to have any part in it.  It's disgusting lies by politicians that we don't believe in the first place.  Why in the hell would we want to organize around another filthy, disgusting, politician?

That, my friends, is what hamstrings us.

I'd much prefer to see a politician get a .45 in their head than support them.

And that is why America is dead.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 07:06 | 6733624 negative rates
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So long live Am erica.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:07 | 6733704 The Wizard
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To be fair,and balanced, this didn't happen under our current, unqualified, Kenyan borne, piece of shit, Resident.

Yes, it started long ago. It went on steroids during the period just prior to the War of Northern Aggression when Lincoln called an emergency session of Congress and the executive branch took over. During post war "Reconstruction Era" the country was reconstructed under the rules of commerce. Bye bye original intent of the Constitution which help set this travesty up with the "commerce clause" creating Santa Claus for the Executive branch to take over.

THE TYRANNY OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE STATE

http://www.newswithviews.com/Emord/jonathan419.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wu3lw77t0E#t=16   Is Administrative Law Unlawful?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:28 | 6734455 lincolnsteffens
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Administrative law is not unlawful inside its foreign (foreign to the People) State. The seats of legitimate government of the People are vacant. In the place of legitimate government of the People is an incorporated city State with all its subsidiary States that the People, through their ignorance and mind control, have come to believe holds legitimate power over them. It is the belief system that holds power over people's minds and prevents the People from rising to claim their own power.The corporate State has given itself the justification to assume all of us have consented to be a member of its body politic corporate entity, thereby rightfully regulating all your behavior by the consent you gave them.

I do not consent.

I am not a legal (fiction) person.

Revoke your voter registration and insist that your claim of rights be respected.

Withdraw as much as you can from the corporate State's system. Do not pay for your own subjugation.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:24 | 6734452 moneybots
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"But rather, it is the fault of this blatantly "unconstitutional" President who lied his ass off when he took the oath to uphold the Constitution."

 

When is a politician lying?  Their lips are moving.  Count the number of politicians.  It is the fault of allll of them.

What is constitutional about the Patriot Act?  Congress passed it and the President signed it.  Republicans were in charge of both.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:59 | 6734571 Rabbi Chaim Cohen
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Correction to your correction. It is all right there in B&W. The leading Framers built everything as if it is above-board, and then buried a clause in it to supercede any part of it by legislation or treaty, book-ended by two minor, unrelated clauses. A backdoor, hidden in plain sight. With this clause we were poisoned by the Founders on our wedding night...

CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES

Article VI,

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before
the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against
the United States under this Constitution, as under the
Confederation.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States
which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties
made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the
United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and
the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing
in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary
notwithstanding.
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and
the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all execu-
tive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of
the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation,
to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever
be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust
under the United States.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:40 | 6733374 wee-weed up
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Double post

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:42 | 6733382 Billy the Poet
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Double post reply.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 04:07 | 6733517 OldPhart
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Where am I?

Fuck! I think I shit myself.

Billy the Poet has a shit house, I'll just wander over that way.

Hopefully his wonder dogs are sleeping, don't want my throat ripped out.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 04:12 | 6733522 OldPhart
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You replied with a non reply that didn't eisxt before the claim was made that you denied or replied, or applied.  So therefore it must be true.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:24 | 6733967 Billy the Poet
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Precisely.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:28 | 6734466 moneybots
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"Double post reply."

 

Post time for the first race is 1:05 pm.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 01:58 | 6733449 teslaberry
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pairadimes i think this is well put as you said, but you are missing hte point which is to poke a hole in 'legalists'. 

 

i am a lawyer myself and have been to both the liberal and democrat political legal groups. they are all full of shit and none of them will actually speak truth as to the reality that the law itself is a fiction and that it is the people to create the society under manufactured constraints of law. 

 

while i' am the last person to tell you the law is irrelevant , the point of the article is to show you that focussing on the law itself as the issue , either as saviour, or as enemy, is a huge mistake , at best a distraction. 

in my opnion it is not a distrction, it is an intentionally cultured belief that is imbued into our legalistic society by lawyers, judges. it is the legalistic part of society always making themselves necessary , even spreading the cultures of political correctness and 'regulation' as a proxy for justifying the continuous necessity of 3rd party interventions under the rubric of 'the laws'. 

 

this continuous feedback loop of cultural economic influence from a sector of society that makes money and elevates its status not only at the financial expense but at the cultural and psychological expense , and the erosion of psychological-social and legal harmony of the society they are supposed TO BE SERVING is part of a huge systemically self destructive behavior to the society at large. 

 

so what is there to do? 

 

stop beliveing the constitution is 'good enough' or 'the problem' . it is neither. if there is one thing that the constiuttion made clear it is that the only way to balance a separation of powers is through delineations of soveriegn power. the states have power. and the 2nd amendment in particular gives individuals the legalistic emphasis on their natural right to resist a tyranical government. 

 

as it goes, the only way the feeral government will ever be stopped through realtively PEACEFUL action, would be through the force of the soveriegn state powers. state police. state militia etc. 

 

as unlikely as this is to actually occur. it is the only possibility for peaceful resolution. the reality is that it will not happen and so the deterioration of the federal govenrment will eventually result in violent conflict with the population at large. probably thiat scenario will play out over decades , until it plays out all at once. i woudln't hold your breatdth. 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:18 | 6733784 Slomotrainwreck
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... as it goes, the only way the feeral government will ever be stopped through realtively PEACEFUL action, would be through the force of the soveriegn state powers.

We don't need no stinkin' badges; coersive governments, police, taxes, jails, courts, legislation, etc. The free market manages all circumstances of wrong doing.  Consider the Non Agression Principle. Does anyone believe that the local police will actually become apathetic to their slaves? Relatively peaceful action by "law enforcers" are a thing of the past.

Step by step instructions: Here and Here

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Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:31 | 6733985 Cloud9.5
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There is no problem with the Constitution and the separation of powers.  It did what it was supposed to do by setting down a framework for national governance.  The social contract between the federalists and the anti-federalists that incorporated the Bill of Rights put constraints on that national structure.  The original design called for a separation of power between the three branches as well as a separation of power between the federal government, the states and the sovereign citizen.  The latter separation of powers was patterned after the Iroquois Confederation.

 

The mention of a sovereign citizen today will get you on a black list in a heartbeat, but the real truth is the system as it was originally understood recognized that the federal government had a domain, the states had a domain and the private citizen had a domain. The move towards centralization under the enlightened despotic hand of progressivism has dissolved the domains normally reserved to the states and the private citizen.  The progressive notion that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the individual is an open road to tyranny.

 

The Bill of Rights was specifically designed to check the power of the dictatorship of the majority that inevitably develops in any democratic structure.  That is why the Bill of Rights has been systematically neutered by a progressive judiciary.  We now live with a broken social contract.  This post Constitutional era is where all failed states find themselves.  The mob will call for a dictator and we will get one.

 

The good news is that the ongoing world trend towards devolution is well underway.  With this devolution will come a fracturing of centralized authority.  This fracturing will bring about efforts of reorganization that will result in the rise of  some local dictators and warlords.  The American citizenry is well armed and local would be despots will be well within range.

 

The majority of American citizens realize that the Second Amendment is the paladin of their natural rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.  They know that the moment the authoritarians move to disarm them, the decision has to be made to either drop to their knees and accept their servitude or stand and fight.  I am quite convinced that three percent of the population will stand and fight and they with the support of a third of the population will turn out the tyrants and put them on trial.

 

The question for the central planners is this:  Do you want to bring on this conflagration immediately by gun confiscation or do you wish to continue to try to manage the contraction to your advantage?  Once you light to fuse, there is no containing it.

 

 

 

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:49 | 6734536 lincolnsteffens
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As a lawyer I'll bet you never learned how to protect a human being's  Constitutionally protected rights from being ignored and violated by the court. Any time a human being is stopped in his automobile, fined when he builds on his property without a permit, arrested for having a firearm without a permit, his rights are being illegally seized without his knowledgeable consent.

As a lawyer I'll bet you would be disbarred and your "license to practice" revoked if you were successful in getting charges dismissed against a client because the police and the court had no proof of jurisdiction. As a lawyer, you are an officer of the court that does not recognize the State and National Constitution. Doing anything in that administrative court contrary to your first duty to the court is a violation. Your duty to your client is secondary, not primary.

I do not consent.

I am not a legal (fictional) person.

I am not a member of your foreign governance system.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 16:10 | 6735040 bobdog54
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Your quotes are totally to the point, while there will always be the scumbags in our society , it does require a high integrity within our overall population to make the Constitution work as intended. My premise is that our country's integrity is at an all time low and guess what, so is the health of our country.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:40 | 6733837 Slomotrainwreck
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Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:27 | 6733164 NoDebt
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Completely agree.  Said similar myself, below.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:29 | 6733171 Ignatius
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Yes, I see several of us are on similar wavelengths.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:45 | 6733198 rubiconsolutions
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Do a word count of the contents of the constitution and you'll find that 95% of them are devoted to what government can do. A mere 5% are dedicated to individual freedom. Not exactly a balance of power. The combination of the 16th amendment and article 1, section 8 alone are a recipe for tyranny.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:51 | 6733211 NoDebt
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If we had just 5% of our freedom left it would be miraculous what we could do.  I would estimate we're down around the 0.1% mark currently.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 01:46 | 6733443 Nobody For President
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Optimist.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:16 | 6733346 BarkingCat
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that is because it defines all that federal government can do. It is not supposed to do anything else.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:49 | 6733210 Fahque Imuhnutjahb
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Well if it's any consolation, we can feel better knowing ,through our taxes, we are paying to fuck ourselves.

So we are in control...right?..

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 05:40 | 6733555 reinhardt
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the reason there are three branches is because two aren't enough to coordinate and cover up enterprise corruption

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Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:54 | 6733733 doctor10
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Its not a "Lie"

In the 1890's the size of the House of Representatives was put in place-capped at 435.

Prior to that original congressinal apportionment was for one representative/30000 people. That would create a House with almost 10,000 members today.

Key points being-due to size they would be forced to

1. Meet electronically from their districts

2. Legislate only those issues of greatest importance to the country-(national DEFENSE)and leave the rest to the states-exactly what the founders intended; they do not necessarily need to be "in session" all year round

3. Local constituents can observe directly what their representative is doing and whom he is doing it with;on a district basis the local can decide "term limits"

4. Special interests cannot control 10,000 geographically spread out; THEY DO CONTROL 435-that is what the K St Lobbying process in DC is all about

That single change in the 1890's laid the groundwork for where we are today.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:41 | 6733161 NoDebt
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I'm growing tired of the bullshit wherein the "system" is blamed for everything.  The "system" called our Constitution doesn't work if everyone agrees to ignore it.  Name for me a system that WOULD work if everyone could simply decide, at their sole discretion, to ignore the rules.  

Congress and the Supreme Court have WILLINGLY given powers to the Executive branch it was never supposed to have.  Speculate on why to your heart's content but it HAS happened.

There is absolutely NO WAY to pull this back unless blaming the "system" is abandoned and INDIVIDUALS are brought up on charges for their violations.  This is, of course, way too late and completely impossible at this point.  Which is why the "system" will collapse and the Constitution will be blamed as deeply flawed, rendering it and what it stands for to be wrongly invalidated.

All by design.  

The Constitution was ALWAYS the enemy.  And they've got it just about pinned to the ground and ripped it's throat out.

 

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:58 | 6733320 greenskeeper carl
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the problem with our system is that it relies on the government to limit its own power. Sure, there are three branches, but all branches are part of the same government, so in order for that to work, these people have to consistently agree to limit their own power. Such a system is not going to last long. Look at how long it took after the constitution was passed before they started with things like the alien and sedition acts.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:14 | 6733341 NoDebt
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Describe for me a better system.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:23 | 6733354 Billy the Poet
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The One Law promoted by a voluntary association of individuals and not an elite class.

"Each individual has the right to be secure in his person and property and may defend himself in proportion to any threat made against him."

Reliance on government takes the individual out of the loop, makes him lazy and complacent and ensures an end to liberty as the power brokers take the reins.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 07:43 | 6733651 zhandax
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"I'm growing tired of the bullshit wherein the "system" is blamed for everything.  The "system" called our Constitution doesn't work if everyone agrees to ignore it.  Name for me a system that WOULD work if everyone could simply decide, at their sole discretion, to ignore the rules.  "

Nodebt, that is some of the best you ever posted.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:22 | 6733793 Slomotrainwreck
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Name for me a system that WOULD work if everyone could ignore the rules.

 

Step by step instructions: Here and Here

You're welcome.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:30 | 6733369 WOAR
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I spend my money on what I want and need, and you spend your money on what you want and need.

We don't need the government middleman.

Our current system is like a grade school classroom of 30 children, and a teacher. The teacher says "If you each give me $1, I'll give us all a pizza party!" The children, seeing this as 'good', give their teacher the money.

So the teacher calls Little Caesars, orders one large pepperoni pizza for $5, and keeps the rest. Of course, our system is even worse. They promise to buy us pizza in the future, and then we wait forever only to realize they never even placed an order.

We don't need the middleman to buy us "pizza" (roads/schools/anything). The purpose of our "teachers" (politicians) is a huge LIE.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:46 | 6733387 Billy the Poet
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But there couldn't be pizza without government! You can try to live in a choose-your-own-topping Utopia if you want but it'll never work.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 04:38 | 6733530 Flankspeed60
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A better system starts with a several-orders-of-magnitude SMALLER system. The leviathian can never be a 'representative' government, IF that is a desireable result.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 06:18 | 6733588 Charming Anarchist
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Simple: Do not associate with lawyers.  Do not tell your daughters to marry lawyers. 

<<Describe for me a better system.>>

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 07:08 | 6733627 Hail Spode
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Localism is a better system. There are 13 doorways that centralizers have used to gather power into one place- fiat money is one.  All doorways must be kept shut lest each generation live in a more centralized state than the previous one even without voting for it. That is what happened to the US. The anti-federalists turned out to be mostly right. It takes a 200 page book to describe it but the gist of it is that all associations between GOVERNMENTS are voluntary. Between state and federal, between county and state. This is combined with rules to keep shut the 13 doorways. A few more of those- feds have to borrow through the states. The federal army ground forces are composed of troops borrowed from the states. Money is privitized and certain forms of it cannot be taxed. things like that... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B0GACAQ

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 07:15 | 6733628 Hail Spode
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It is kind of like anarchy, only workable. Governments can be very different from one county to the next. This makes it easier to move into a jurisdition more to your liking and also makes it easier for you to change things in your jurisdiction, since it is easer to change county board of superviors than it is Congressmen or Senators. The "transaction costs" of leaving bad government for better government go way down. This will pressure governments to compete with one another for productive citizens. They do already a little, but you have to change states right now to change legal environments, leaving your friends and family and job behind. If you could just move over the county line and get the same benefit and keep all that- or if most of your county saw it your way change over to a nearby stat that was more reasonable, there would be a revolutionary increase in market pressure on government. Right now we are going the opposite way. More and more rules are made from DC so it does not matter which state you are in.

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 13:05 | 6734587 azusgm
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The move from state to state showed up in Texas' numbers in the last census. We gained four congressional seats (and electoral votes).

Don't bother to ascribe the population growth to illegal immigration. Illegals don't respond to the census.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:56 | 6734101 Griffin
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A better system could be a system that is designed to protect itself against people who morally disabled or simply just evil.

That system could help to pave the way for people who are interested in doing sensible things, rater than enabling greedy and dishonest people to enslave others in one way or the other.

In Iceland we have a rather simple constitution that has a few elements of protection weaved into it.

One is something we call, Landsdomur, this is a court that can be assembled to try and convict politicians that break constitutional law. This applies to all politicians from top to bottom without exception.

Another safety valve is what we call Málskotsréttur.  If the parliament is doing something dangerously stupid, like try to pass laws that are not i our best interest, then the president can refuse to sign the bill in question into law and refer the decision by referendum to the people.

It is extremely difficult to change the constitution.  If a parliament proposes changes to the constitution, those changes can not take effect until general elections have taken place and a new parliament has been elected.

The Icelandic constitution is not perfect by any means, but it does have some interesting features that have been proven to be quite useful do do what constitutions are supposed to do. Defend civil liberties and support a intelligent and just society.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 18:37 | 6735504 Hail Spode
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Iceland, pop 323,000 I locslism in action. How many voters does each legislator represent? In the US Congress, it is about 700.000- which makes them out of reach of the individual. With Senate it is worse. Not all of us get to be isolated in the middle of the ocean but I am glad for what you are doing over there and it is more evidence that government closer to the people (so long as they are decent people) is better government.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:37 | 6734506 BarkingCat
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benevolent dictatorship.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 13:08 | 6734594 azusgm
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A benevolent person would not want the job.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 04:31 | 6733529 Flankspeed60
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EXACTLY! The federal govt. is the sole and final arbiter of its own legitimacy. The logos on all the paychecks of the 'deciders' look exactly alike. What could be wrong with that?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 13:04 | 6734581 lincolnsteffens
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NoDebt

I agree with everything you said except "The Constitution was ALWAYS the enemy." The fact is the People are their own worst enemy for not remaining vigilant and asserting their rights in a timely manner. The Constitution is pretty darn good. Through increasing ignorance the People have surrendered their rights. 

When government steals just a tiny bit of something you own, you figure it is just not worth the effort and cost of getting it back. The manipulators of your increasing slavery understand that perfectly well while you don't. As each little bit of your sovereignty is converted to subjugation the cumulative effect is what we now have which is tyranny by the State. When you take 150 years to boil a frog, the frog sleeps without any fear.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 15:38 | 6734955 Vendetta
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Corruption has killed the Constitution, nothing else.  I just read some disinformation piece saying the president really is just a figure head with no real power... but then I look at Nixon taking the country off the gold standard by executive order in 1971.... many think his watergate scandal was badness but I consider changing the entire nature of the monetary system via executive order far more significant.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:26 | 6733163 Ignatius
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The first conquered people in America weren't the Native Americans, the first conquered people were us.   The Constitution, even in view of the fine set of rights listed in the Bill of Rights, is the peace treaty and/or surrender document however one wishes to frame it.  And whatever decent principles were listed therein, they've mostly been overrun by the super wealthy, banking and corporate class.  They love cartel and hate competition which is why they have seized the school system and every other meaningful institution for their own gain.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:25 | 6733249 scrappy
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https://news.yahoo.com/case-missing-13th-amendment-constitution-12121042...

http://www.constitutionalconcepts.org/13thamendment.htm

Some say the 14th and others are suspect as well.

Some say the "founders" were not authorized to write a constitution at the time.

It appears the anti-federalists had a point.

It also seems that the Bill of Rights were used as a method to neutralize that position.

Hell, let's review it all and find out what really happened.

The declaration of Independence works for me until we learn the truth.

 

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:49 | 6733304 acetinker
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A Constitution is a declaration- of bankruptcy.  Most believe that we declared independence in 1776.  If that's so, then why did it take 'til 1789 to ratify the Constitution which arose from this declaration?  It wasn't independence at all, it was a negotiated reorganization.

Our founders were not at all what they're held up to be, today.  They were landowners, slaveholders, merchants, bankers and lawyers... the elite and semi-elite of their day.

Debt was, is, and for the foreseeable future will continue to be the bane of our existence.  It is also the basis of our wealth, and when you begin to wrap your head around THAT, you will discover that the only way out is down.

BTW, Ignatius- You are not the subject of my ire, you just happened to remind me of some shit I wanted to say.

Peace

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:52 | 6733308 Ignatius
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No offense taken.  Nice rant.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:27 | 6733364 acetinker
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Cool.

You know Michael Badnarik?

Next time you have a day or so free, give him an objective ear, or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp-48d_jSb4

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:39 | 6734025 Mr. Universe
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There was a battle played out but the anti-federalists lost. What most Americans used to consider the apex of freedom was our Bill of Rights. This was just an add on to quiet the Anti-feds down. Rights? That's a laugh. The constitution is a document of the Corporatocracy who shall eventually own the world.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 13:09 | 6734600 lincolnsteffens
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No, "Those who sleep on their rights shall awaken to find they have none". Time to wake up you ignorant and unwashed masses.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:33 | 6733172 Welfare Tycoon
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There is no such thing as redress, since the 2nd Ammendment was preventative and was supposed to avoid any of these crimes from happenng in the first place.

If the power of the Constitution was really applied, no one should have paid their taxes to begin with and just shot the fuckers who come knocking for collections. It would be perfectly legal if the Constitution was actually applied to law today. The problem is that of right now, there is no abiding to the document as it stands. 

If clarity ever arrives to the masses and people wake up, the oligarchs, bankers, and their politician whores should be hunted down like animals and slaughtered. Anything less would serve as incentive for them to commit these crimes again. 

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:48 | 6733206 Atomizer
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Susan Rice emails are going Global. Watch the entertainment. 

They fucked with kimdot.com. Enjoy the backlash. 

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:31 | 6733173 booboo
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I guess calling out our elected officials is out now that they won't come out in public anymore and the local ones will only allow thirty seconds of comments at a public meeting and you can't "be hateful" or ya get the taser bro.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:32 | 6733177 NikoBellick
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So....when do we start the shooting match? 

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:58 | 6733224 Armed Resistance
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Yesterday... I'm sorry for being late.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:35 | 6733180 Atomizer
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The second ammendment will fix that problem. They will scurry off like cockroaches when the guns start firing. 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 13:21 | 6734642 azusgm
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People in power live in such bubbles. Look at the attempts at gun-grabbing. Somehow I get the distinct impression that TPTB thought that right after Aurora and Sandy Hook the peace-loving people of the United States would demand that they all be allowed to turn in their guns ASAP. Those who think they are so far above the rest of us have a hard time understanding the enemy (us) well enough to devise effective strategy.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:36 | 6733183 Kirk2NCC1701
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In a way, a Constitution of a country is a Contract between its Rulers and Ruled.

The problem with most contracts -- especially with old ones -- is that they do not have adequate provisions for how to resolve issues and disputes. These days, even basic contracts have a safety net of the disputing parties using a Mediator or Arbitrator.

No such mechanisms exist in the US Constitution.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:45 | 6733197 NoDebt
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There is no external, unbiased 3rd party to mediate when what's at stake is the rule of law itself.  

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:55 | 6733218 herkomilchen
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Yup.  The notion that a monopoly on violence and adjudication can be able or willing to "check and balance" itself is absurd.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:21 | 6733269 LetsGetPhysical
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The "safety net" is the Declaration of Independence. At any point in this shit show we can tell the federal government (and anybody else) to fuck off just like we told the king of england. I'll summarize what it said: We're sick of your shit. We don't recognize your authority. Go get fucked.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:45 | 6733192 NoWayJose
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The Constitution is fine and has plenty of checks and balances. The problem has been liberal judges 'interpreting' laws whereby they overrule laws passed by elected officials or write new laws on their own. Add to this the failure of the Republican leaders to apply ANY of Congress' checks and balances on the Executive Office or the Courts. Executive Orders should be challenged. Liberal judges should have been stopped (Borked!) from reaching the Supreme Court. It's not the Constitution's fault. Right Mr. Boehner and Mr. McConnell?

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:47 | 6733202 palmereldritch
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Wow.

Criticizing the Constitution for failing to thwart the IRS as the collection agency for the private banking cartel of the Federal Reserve is like criticizing the dying man for having terminal cancer.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:47 | 6733203 dumbStruck
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Julius Ceasar

" The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, / but in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 22:57 | 6733220 NoDebt
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He didn't say that, but I'm still chuckling.  Well played.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:05 | 6733243 Atomizer
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The fall of Rome Empire. Jack Lew will continue to loot treasury until nothing is left. Raising the national debt is the Trojan horse. 

Joseph tainterThe Collapse of complex ...

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:14 | 6733259 MATA HAIRY
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you are getting close to one of the core truths of western society, especially american society, but unfortunately, you are not that close.

 

The founding "fathers" discarded the articles of confederation and installed the federal constitution in order to thwart the burgeoning democracies that erupting in the several states.

 

The purpose of the constitution was to make it hard for the people to control their own gov't and to make it easier for the rich and powerful (like madison, washington et al) to control the gov't.

 

The real power of the govt is not in the bill of rights. The real power is in the structure of the fed govt that is described in the constitution.

 

The structure of the fed govt was to "protect the minority of the opulent against the majority," to quote madison, the father of the constitution. Madison also wrote that the constitution would preserve wealth INequality.

 

Madison wrote that the way to run america was to divide et impera--divide and conquer. The elite divide and conquer by diminishing the unity of the electorate in each voting district. You decrease the voter unity by increasing size of electoral districts. President, senate, these are large districts. Under the articles of confederation, the districts were all within the states. 

 

A parliamentarian form of govt structure is more democratic than the american seperation of powers, checks and balances, presidential system. That parlaimentarian system puts the power of the govt mostly in the hands of politicians in the lower house--that means in small voting districts. Smaller districts--> more unity--> easier for the people to control their own politicians.

 

The path out is an article 5 constitutional convention. Currently the GOP has control of 31 state legislatures. If they get 38, they can call a convention of state legislatures and theoretically pass amendments that could send more power back to the states.

 

For more info read Dr Woody Holton's book Unruly americans and read dr jerry fresia's book Toward An American Revolution (online now).

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 05:45 | 6733559 reinhardt
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well within the rhelm of believability

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Sat, 10/31/2015 - 15:46 | 6734968 Vendetta
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"Currently the GOP has control of 31 state legislatures. If they get 38, they can call a convention of state legislatures and theoretically pass amendments that could send more power back to the states."

will never happen if they had the 38, I'll owe ya a beer if they did.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:15 | 6733260 Cabreado
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Until the “big lie” of the Constitution is realized,

There is no "big lie" -- there is the failure to protect it.

"Only when the breakup of the federal Union has taken place, will American liberties and freedoms be secured."

And your proposed solution not only denigrates the Constitution, it guarantees chaos and controls of your worst nightmares, and is ignorant of forces in play.

Best to protect the original plan -- for a change.

Stop pissing on the Constitution, even when it's down...

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:39 | 6733290 scrappy
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We have the Articles of Confederation to fall back on, and if that's lacking, the Declaration of Independence itself, which is in turn based on the Magna Carta. We need to review WHAT the Constitution IS, and WHO it is addressed to. The word "Constitution" is a corporate contract word. Notice the flag of this corporation. Ring any bells? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 13:46 | 6734711 lincolnsteffens
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Look back on the circumstances of the signing of the Magna Carta. The King did not draw up the contract, nor did he have control over what it said. King John signed it under threat of death.

Under the law of contracts, no contract is valid if agreed to under duress. This is today under Uniform Commercial Code #1-308

Besides, all the assets of the British Crown were ceded by King John in 1213 to the Holy Roman Church. So, who's asset was the British Crown's Colonies when the Crown agreed to give up sovereignty over the land?? Did the Crown have lawful authority to abandon an asset? Of course colonial land was stolen by force from the people that lived on it when colonists invaded.

I do not consent.

I am not a legal (fictional) person.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:36 | 6733288 spqrusa
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The US Consitution was hacked twice in 1913 with income tax and popular senate.

This subjugated the people and states to the will of the banksters and their collection agency.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:30 | 6733370 Atomizer
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On my pitstop home, stopping to jekyll island. It's near Brunswick. Think exit 25. My wife has to become educated. She sort of understands. Not entirely. Will just hit SC exit 5 and stay in Hilton Head Island for the night. 

I need her to understand history. She is a hardcore capitalist. She is Chinese, family grew up in Phillipines. They hate communist. 

My wife is a walking success story. Ball bustling, no shit personally. That why we get along. Imagine two radios next to one another. 

One of us hits maximum decibels. We both love each other. I'm a lucky man after two failed marriage's. 

Goodnight. Busted for blogging late. Hee hee. 

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:41 | 6733293 Atomizer
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This is why !jeb is done. Hillary is next on the cutting block. 

The 2nd Amendment - How & Why! - YouTube

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 01:36 | 6733432 August
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The only political donations I make these days are in support of jury nullification, or state secession.

The "Texas Nationalist Movement" is currently having a drive for signatures and (of course) money in order to put secession on the Texas ballot next year.

I have no idea whether the "TNM" guys are solid citizens or cultists, but they look reasonable enough to me.  Secession needs to be forced into the public's awareness, if only because somewhere down the road it will become a live issue and IMHO the sooner the better.

If you have a cash budget for politics, I suggest that this is one of the better causes to support.

http://www.thetnm.org/

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 02:49 | 6733459 Nobody For President
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Man, as a Oregonian transfered to California, I'm all for Texas to succed. Actually, I'm north CA, and there has been a long, ungroundish secession movement here as well. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_state)

 

Motherfucker - It is impossible to get this link to work. Probably just a coincidence... You have to type in the (Proposed Pacific State, or google it yourself and get there.) TPTB are not fond of these movements.

 

Went to high school in Curry County, Oregon;  lived in Humboldt County, CA the last 40 years: this IS the Oregonian ecological province. Local government is the only government that can count, the governments 'above' are only mafias extorting taxes from the people for their own uses, like wars and propping up TBTF banks and shit shit like that.

Maxamize local control. I'll bet an Independent Texas can shut off the border and the drugs and the cartels, despite the Feds and the Supremes...

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 13:38 | 6734686 azusgm
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Texas is having to do the work at the border that the federal govt refuses to do. Our current two-year state budget has $800 million of Texans' money for border defense. Unfortunately, the ones who are arrested have to be handed over to the feds. The feds make a habit of recycling them or releasing them into society.

The border fence was a plan meant to fail in Texas because it didn't run along the border. One segment of it even ran across a softball diamond on a college campus. Some of the Texans and there land found that the fence (under Chertoff) would cut them and their property off from Texas and leave them unprotected and hard to reach by police and fire departments.

Texas as a nation could definitely do better in a lot of areas.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 14:00 | 6734742 lincolnsteffens
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There is no need for Texas to secede except as a subsidiary from the illegitimate corporate Federal State. It just needs to assert itself as one of the several Nation States of the Union and protect its authority on behalf of the People of Texas.

I am a Connecticut National

I do not consent to being a legal (fictional) person.

I do not agree to contract with or be an office holder of any corporate government.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:56 | 6734558 BarkingCat
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I remember watching this a few years back and being struck how that piece of human garbage named Chuck Shummer is smirking at her. What a condescending asshole.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:43 | 6733295 BarbaricRelic
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Craft the most perfect Constitution. List every conceivable right. Etch it in stone. None of that matters if the people do not reflect the character necessary to uphold just laws and individual Freedom.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:01 | 6734372 Mike in GA
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^^^This is Truth.

 

Without moral leadership of a moral citizenry, there will be no painless success in governance.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:46 | 6733299 InnVestuhrr
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One of the most profound disappointing revelations of my adult life was realizing that the USA Constitution is an irrelevant historical artifact, just an old rag in a case in a museum.

The politicians in the executive and legislative branches do whatever they want, and if any serfs dare complain that some proposed law or policy or action is  "unConstitutional", then the politicians in the black robes (euphemistically called "judges"), are employed to approve and bless and empower the executive and legislative branch politicians over the people.

The only true democracy is DIRECT voting by the people to approve or disapprove all laws, policies and actions. The current system is nothing more than voting in kings, princes, and the court of nobles, who do whatever they want once in office, instead of them inheriting their titles and powers.

We are nothing more than medieval serfs who get to choose which lord's boot is on our necks, stuffing our faces into the mud, and stealing what we produce with our labor.

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 02:57 | 6733481 Nobody For President
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No, the Constitution is NOT "an irrelevant historical artifact, just an old rag in a case in a museum."

Unless you think it is. Fuck you, you gutless cocksucker, you will get the gubermint you deserve. I'm trained, by the gubermint, I'm armed, and I have nothing left to lose after my wife died. Read The World of Rome by Michael Grant, and figure out where the USA is now. Pretty late in the cycle. 

You ready for a lord's boot on your neck, stuffing your face in the mud: you pitiful fuck. Train yourself, arm yourself, and be ready - or eat mud asshole, you will deserve it.

Pitifull.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:49 | 6733721 InnVestuhrr
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I empathize with your intention, but sounds like you already died too and your body is just continuing on momentum.

You know nothing about me. I used to have a huge library of books on every aspect of the founding of America & constitutional law, and I tried using the knowledge contained in those books to use the courts to restore our individual rights and freedom. When I realized that not only is this impossible, but that it makes me a target of the infinite power of the regime, I had a big bonfire and burned all the worthless books about irrelevant history.

The only way to get and keep rights and freedom is with force of arms, I agree with you on that point. My question is:

How many of you are there ?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:14 | 6734415 Mike in GA
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"How many of you are there?"

1 single sniper to start, then another and another till the message became crystal clear to those that abused the people (i.e. IRS unaccountability) growing to 3%, then 50% once the FedGov's intent to hold power By Any Means Necessary is made unmistakably clear for even the most ardent pacifist among us.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:31 | 6734485 InnVestuhrr
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I will be  true believer AFTER I see it happen - until then it is just a boastful wet dream, but I do wish you good luck if you ever do find the balls to do what you described !

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:21 | 6734435 Mike in GA
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One additional thought InnVestuhrr, it seems you have given up on living if you reached the conclusion that your knowledge was so worthless you had to burn your library of information.  Thank God the founding fathers weren't so easily dissuaded from fighting the world's greatest power even though they had little money, no army or navy and loyalists within their midst.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:32 | 6734473 InnVestuhrr
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FIRST you go to the courts, the "justice system", to fight the corrupt regime,

THEN

come back here with you list of victories - or failures - and ONLY THEN do you have standing to comment on others like me who have tried.

Until then you are just wind-blowers.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 13:23 | 6734648 Mike in GA
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Fuck you and your need for me to have "standing"  to comment.  You're a fucking quitter.  I'll comment as I damn well please asshole.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 15:52 | 6734992 InnVestuhrr
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YOU ARE A POMPOUS EGOTISTICAL BLOW-HARD WHO HAS NEVER EVEN TRIED TO BLUNT THE REGIME - YOU HAVE *NOTHING* SUBSTANTIAL TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE DISCUSSION - GO BACK TO YOUR RAT HOLE !

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 14:04 | 6734753 lincolnsteffens
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You know a lot and believe a lot but you understand little. Your mind has been captured by the State.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:46 | 6733303 sysin3
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There is no lie in the Constitution. However, there seem to be multiple failures to read and understand that document.

"The Constitution does not grant rights, it recognizes them."

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:59 | 6733322 Sorry_about_Dresden
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the constitution allows what is not expressly forbidden.  

all branches are out of control.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 04:50 | 6733536 bunnyswanson
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Vital part of govt is the:  Public Notice

"Public notices in newspapers are part of the three-legged stool of government accountability. Public notices help to inform the public on activities by the government and other public entities. Public notices have been included in newspapers from the beginning of the Republic. Now they are also on many newspapers’ websites."

http://nnaweb.org/public-policy?articleCategory=public-notice

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 06:25 | 6733595 Lumberjack
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You are correct, Those tiny notices are extremely important and if read and acted upon, a good way to nip problems in the bud. It's a lot of work/time and travel at times or maybe as simple as sending in your comment but worth it. At times you can contact your legislative offices for a full copy of the language contained in the proposed legislation/rule change (that was mentioned in the legal notice) and they can be a real eye opener.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 13:03 | 6734578 BarkingCat
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wrong. It is supposed to be the exact opposite.

The constitution lists all that the federal government can do. It is not allowed to do anything else.

However that does not prevent congress from writing and the president from signing laws that clearly violate the explicit word as well as the spirit of the constitution.

 

In the end the blame really falls on the people. They have the power to vote the politicians out but they do not.

They are the final guardians and they fail miserably.

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 23:51 | 6733305 Yen Cross
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 Sometimes I read the article, and sometimes I vote for it in the middle of the night?

 The Senate is a joke. Those 100 assclowns that represent 50 States<>

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:01 | 6733324 nah
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Gay marriage is legal

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abortion is legal

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the history of law is whatever you want it to be, the future of law is power with no responsibility or proper category.

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What is the meaning of life.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:10 | 6733337 sysin3
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Laws prohibiting gay marriage are un-Constitutional. As are laws prohibiting inter-racial marriage. Amendment 14, Article 1.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:28 | 6733365 rejected
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How you figure? When the constitution was ratified the government was not involved in marriage. That was part of the church.Government involving itself in these matters is relativly recent.

The 14th amendment was not ratified as the southern states were required to ratify it PRIOR to their re-admitance to the now forced union. Any illegality in a ratification would negate the entire amendment.

And finally the misuse and misinterpretation of this amendent will eventually destroy the nation.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 06:25 | 6736520 modest_proposal
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Please go back and inform every dis-inherited bastard that the State had no interaction with marriage laws. Discuss with every war widow that had to demonstrate her marriage to some bureaucrat. Government is and always has been exquisitely sensitive to the issue of marriage and parenthood (as legitimated through marriage). 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:13 | 6733340 NoBillsOfCredit
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we exercise our power through the grand jury and the pedit jury. but ignorant people will continue to put their fellow Americans in prison because they are controlled by the Department of Justice which is a total freaking misnomer.
the income tax is being applied illegally. One does not derive income by providing services in charging for them. Your labor is your property to text that labor is unconstitutional and illegal but the American people are so ignorant they have no clue what the Supreme Court has said in the past.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:15 | 6733345 rejected
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"the Constitution explicitly states in Art. VI, Sect. 2, the central government is “the supreme law of the land.”

How can he say something so wrong? No where in the constitution does it say that,,, although that is what it has come to it still does NOT say that.

Article VI:

All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

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It simply states the constitution is the supreme law of the land and that all laws passed shall conform to it. Also all members of government must swear an oath to support the constitution.

That said the Constitution was enacted by the founders who wanted a strong Central government. Well,,, we got one. Too bad they're not here to enjoy the fruits of their work.

It would have been very difficult for the feds to usurp the states sovereignty as they have with the Articles which put the states ahead of the central government.

Their central government has usurped the constitution whichI personally believ was the founders intent. The first President signed into law the first central bank and he also used the military to put down a tax rebellion by People who had just fought a bloody way over taxes. 

Under the Articles the states were sovereign and the Fed was sort of a intermediary between the states and handled foreign affairs. The states controlled the purse so it would have been difficult for the Federale's to creat a central bank and usurp the states sovereignity.

 

 

 


Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:32 | 6733372 Yen Cross
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   I think that we should focus on moar " existential" issues?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:33 | 6733376 Aleedsfella
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Get a grip America, your are still ruled from England! You had your independence from 1776 to 1913 and then you fucked it up!

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:36 | 6733378 Yen Cross
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Retrospect much?

 I know how to fire a weapon.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:42 | 6733384 Aleedsfella
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Rothschild banking cartel! I am not trying to be clever. I wish the USA and the UK were free of the banking scum.  December 23, 1913 the USA lost the war of independence, and it's the same scum banking empires pulling the strings today. Its better for England as the Rothschilds use American kids as cannon fodder these days. 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:52 | 6733394 Aleedsfella
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Cheeky dig! We know how to burn 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 01:10 | 6733413 Yen Cross
Sat, 10/31/2015 - 00:42 | 6733380 lincolnsteffens
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"As the Constitution explicitly states in Art. VI, Sect. 2, the central government is “the supreme law of the land.” The individual states are inferior and mere appendages to the national government – ultimate control rests in Washington."

No, the author is not correct and has taken out of context  Arti.VI Sect. 2

First of all The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. Anything in conflict with the Constitution or "not with standing"  is not law. Anything in conflict of the Constitution is null and void. "It is a mere nullity as if it had never been enacted."

The Central Government has no authority to enact a law which conflicts with the Constitution of the USA and all state Constitutions must conform to the Constitution for The USA.

The only way these fake laws of the Government Corporation have effect is if you agree to be bound by them. No agreement, no effect of fake ( aka "color of law") law. The Constitution would first have to be changed by the People using the proper method dictated by The Constitution. The first step is repeal of the offending parts by ratification of the deletions and or additions. Of course the gov. may threaten or jail you until you agree if you aren't able to block them in court. Agreeing under threat is invalid under the laws of contract.

Ultimate authority rests with the People. The People are the creators of the government and superior to it. The people are ultimately responsible for taking action against a government that violates the public trust. This is one reason why the 2nd amendment was put in the Constitution. The People have the RIGHT to force the government to abide by the Constitution.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 04:53 | 6733537 trader1
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author cites the wrong article to support his argument.

here is the "smoking gun":

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 01:21 | 6733425 jcdenton
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Perhaps it is time for us to begin from the standpoint of understanding, we have no fundamental -- rights ..

Fundamental in the sense that they are neither given via a Creator or humanity. They are granted via -- Man ..

https://itunes.apple.com/us/itunes-u/lbi-from-sea-to-shining-sea/id53763...

Go to Session 3 Part 1; at the 30:00 mark to the end ..

Learn what Paine and Jefferson really meant (as opposed to Madison, Locke, and Milton)

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 14:15 | 6734775 lincolnsteffens
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As living organisms we have natural rights. As cooperative organisms we should do no harm to another human or that human's property. If we do not abide by that simple rule then others will do unto us what we have done unto them.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 01:31 | 6733435 datura
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ok, I will tell it to you like this: each country is good and working for the common good of the people only if its ruling elites are wise. (They are never good, but they may be wise). Usually, in the beginning of a new cycle, the ruling elites are enthusiastic patriots, who try to make their country better in general. But when the same ruling elites remain in control for too long (generations), they begin to get spoiled, corrupted and too tyrannical. Than the only solution is to exchange the elites for a new ruling elite! Usually this is only possible by force. 

If you look at what is happening now in Russia: this is directly what happened, exchange of the elites. And the new elites are much more enthusistic about building a country instead of destroying it. In Russia, they did not exchange the elites by revolution, but simply by allowing a strongman to gradually replace the elites with new people (but the elites have been replaced by force anyway, as they never go away voluntarily). Russians are now trying to create a new working state and they face enormous hurdles. However, their biggest advantage is that the ruling elite are patriots, who are not anyone's puppets and who are not subject to outside influence. Unlike in the USA, where politicians are totally subject to all kinds of outside influences.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2SR0oNBUqo

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 01:46 | 6733442 Richardk888
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The problem is not the framework of the Constitution, but the lack of participatian, blind faith, and ignorance of the people at large.

Freedom is not free.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 02:24 | 6733461 Vidar
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The problem is the existence of the state, regardless of the documents used to justify it. Participation is the opposite of what is needed. People need to refuse to participate in the banking system and in the political system. The day they hold an election and no one bothers to vote will be the death knell of the statist system.

Rule by force can produce nothing but misery, war, and eventual destruction. Voluntary association is the only legitimate basis for society.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 02:28 | 6733462 David Wooten
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"The “separation of powers,” where power is distributed among the three branches – legislative, executive, judicial"

It is difficult to maintain separation of powers while all three branches are centered in Washington, DC. It's no great secret that Supreme Court Justices, members of Congress and the WH wine and dine each other regularly. We need to get them more geographically separated and weaken their ability to make our lives miserable.

Let's start by moving the Supreme Court to Phoenix - the perfect place to be for a body that convenes in October and adjourns in July.

Next let's move the House of Representatives close to the demographic center of the US so it can better 'represent' the people. Currently, that means somewhere in Missouri.

The Senate and the House should also be separated even though they're both part of the legislature. I'd like to see the Senate moved as far away as possible - say to Barrow, Alaska. However, they would probably never agree to that so let's move them to Hawaii, instead. Since the US is supposed to be tilting to Asia and the Senate is involved with foreign policy, Hawaii would be a good place for them.

Then the White House can stay where it is. With the three branches separate from one another they will all do less mischief.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 14:23 | 6734798 lincolnsteffens
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You argument is fundamentally flawed. You are speaking of the division of powers in a legitimate government that is limited by the Constitution for the united states of America. The current government is an illegitimate corporation masquerading as legitimate. All the "branches" of the illegitimate corporate government are merely departments and subsidiaries of the corporation headed by the executive but only marginally controlled by the citizen shareholders or claimants to citizenship.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 02:49 | 6733473 Idiocracy
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Federal Gov's Senators used to be elected by state legislatures.  THAT was at least 1 effective check on the expansion of federal power (because it alligned the senate with the States' interests to maintain their relative power).  

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 03:29 | 6733495 ToSoft4Truth
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At the end of the day the Constitution is a suggested guideline.

The Department of Justice is a Constitutionally lawful entity.    The Constitution made it lawful.

Of course the citizens are contracted to act ‘lawfully’ so shakedowns are made lawful.

Over 7,000 ‘disappeared’ in Chicago.   The Constitution makes this lawful too. 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 04:29 | 6733510 Jorgen
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"Ultimate authority rests with the People. The People are the creators of the government and superior to it."

Unfortunately, our Government does not share the aforementioned opinion.


Sat, 10/31/2015 - 05:31 | 6733552 Philo Beddoe
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If a guy like Bill Murray were to run for President he would get my vote. Alas, that will never happen. Too early for flapjacks? 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 03:59 | 6733511 Flankspeed60
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".... the only method for those oppressed by the federal government is to either threaten or actually go through with secession. Attempts to alter its dictatorial rule through the ballot box or public protests are futile. ..................focus and anger must be redirected away from participation within the current political system........................"

This is the most substantive part of the entire article. Increasing numbers of citizens are waking up to the realization that this rogue government cannot be salvaged - it has long since forfeited the moral authority to govern. I don't want to overthrow it. I just want to cleanse myself of that cesspool and leave it. Lightly-bound confederations of like-minded states would be a good start.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:33 | 6733696 Ghost of Robotrader
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You can dissociate yourself from the system in varying degrees.  Buy local.  Buy second hand everything.  Pay cash.  Minimize and eliminate any taxes paid where feasible. Barter goods and services where possible.    Grow some of your own food or shop with local growers.  There are more ways.  Opting out as much as possible is an option.  If even a substantial minority refuse to support the governing corporatocracy they could bring it to its knees.

 

Most of all stop spending money and save your capital.  The paradox of thrift is your most deadly weapon but it requires mass action.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 03:58 | 6733512 Dr. Bonzo
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The constitution is a fairy tale. Good luck pleading Bill of Right protections on your next traffic stop or brush with the IRS, border crossing or other miscellaneous law enforcement encounter.

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 04:10 | 6733520 wisebastard
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the consitution is as good as the people who back it up...............maybe if the people forced the governent to spend as much as they have on the war in iraq to uphold the constiution it might be worth a fuck................other then that its fucking toilet paper................the US is shot its done they might as well hand it over to china....................i mean it............i have been dealing with the system ever since i was a little kid and i have seen nothing but complete cowards who run from logic.......................

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 04:49 | 6733533 trader1
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Article I grants the government essentially all power, allows it to form laws asserting said power and amendment 10 essentially says any "power" outside of the remit of "all" "...are reserved to the states or the people." 

Article I [section 8-10] basically allows the formation of an army, currency, taxation and all modern forms of POWER. Although we have the Enumerated Powers Act, the reality of the situation is that we have a government, or a Monopoly on Violence, yet consistently pretend otherwise.

The bottom line is that TPTB do a fine PR exercise of "Land of the Free", however it doesn't exist. Never has. The greatest myth many Americans tell themselves is that the Bill of Rights is actually the Constitution - it is not; they are amendments to the actual Constitution. They don't revoke the initial powers invested in the government; they're merely "play nice" additions that can be revoked at any time.

The libertarians can continue to argue their ideal to the heart's content, but the reality of the "military-industrial complex" (you can add in Corporate nowadays) is that power only resides in the government, and always has done. 

All the rest is rather self-indulgent mythology and the illusion of freedom.

-Aurora ex Machina

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 07:11 | 6733632 Sturm und Drang
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I hold firm to the notion that the 2nd Amendment will be the deciding factor in the future of the US. Mao didn't discover that "political power grows out of the barrel of a gun" nor is he the first to express what effectively the 2nd Amendment says. The Founding Fathers knew we would eventually end up where we are today. It's human nature. I get the sense that the lack of will to fully invoke the 2nd amendment decreases inversely to the increased chaos within the government and the opportunity said chaos provides. It has been said one should never let a good crisis go to waste.

Steel yourselves.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 11:31 | 6734267 Tortuga
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IMO, it's not so much "lack of will" as fear of the the chaos and destruction that will follow as everybody goes tribal.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 14:41 | 6734838 FixItAgainTony
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What is called "human nature" is often confused with the deviant behaviour of Type A sociopaths/psychopaths fronted by their type Clueless bureaucrats.  Actual "human nature" is what got us trustingly under their thumbs.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 07:22 | 6733639 El_Puerco
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 How Psychopaths operate and how to deal with them:

 

As humans, we need to confront this threat and DEAL with it.

We need to remember that cooperating with evil, on ANY level, is a MISTAKE and it will ultimately come back to bite you.

So why we spend so much ink and time to explain how to American (Predatory) Capitalism works?!

 

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