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Obama Set To Announce US Boots On The Ground In Syria, Russia Threatens Deployment "Unacceptable"
When the US media began airing helmet cam footage of Delta Force executing a prison break at an ISIS compound last week we suggested that Washington was making an effort to prepare the American public for more boots on the ground in Iraq and the possibility of ground troops in Syria.
The catalyst: Russia and Iran. Put simply, the US has been embarrassed by Moscow and Tehran’s coordinated effort to rout the Sunni extremists backed by Riyadh, Doha, and Ankara operating in Iraq and Syria and now, as Baghdad and Kabul threaten to turn to The Kremlin for help in the face of American ineptitude, the Pentagon is desperate to show that the US can still be effective at fighting terrorism.
So while John Kerry wanders around (hopefully not on a bike) in Vienna in a futile effort to get Saudi Arabia and Turkey to sit at the same table and talk rationally with Russia and Iran, the US military is contemplating how to insert itself into the battle without sparking a world war.
For its part, Baghdad has informed the Western media that it neither wants nor needs US help fighting ISIS (that’s what all the Iran-backed militias are for) and so instead, The White House may be on the verge of sending spec ops to Syria.
- OBAMA ADMIN. MAY ANNOUNCE SPECIAL OPS FORCES IN SYRIA:CNBC/RTRS
Here's Reuters:
The United States will send 20 to 30 special operations forces to Syria to serve as military advisers in the fight against Islamic State, a U.S. official said.
The additional U.S. troops will operate in a limited "advise and assist" capacity, without changing President Barack Obama's overall mission to combat the militant group, a separate U.S. official said.
Of course the entire idea of "advise and assist" is a joke in the first place. Here's WaPo:
Depicting the U.S. mission in Iraq became an even more delicate activity last week after a joint raid in the Iraqi city of Hawijah, which freed about 70 Islamic State hostages and left a U.S. Delta Force soldier dead. The death of Master Sgt. Joshua L. Wheeler was the first time a U.S. servicemember had been killed in a firefight there since U.S. troops returned to Iraq last year.
Briefing reporters hours after the raid took place, Pentagon press secretary Peter Cook said that “U.S. forces are not in a combat role in Iraq.” He said a team of elite U.S. soldiers had provided transport and support for the Iraqi Kurdish commandos. But the Americans were not intending to take part in the raid itself, he said. That changed when a firefight erupted and Wheeler jumped in to help. Later that day, Cook said that Wheeler’s death was the first combat casualty there since 2011.
On Monday, asked about operations in Iraq, White House press secretary Josh Earnest declined to characterize the operations there as combat. He said the “train, advise and assist” mission differed from “the long-term, sustained ground combat operations” that took place after the 2003 invasion. Over 160,000 U.S. troops were stationed in Iraq at the peak of that war.
But on Wednesday, Col. Steve Warren, a U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad, described the mission in blunt terms. “We’re in combat,” he said, speaking via video feed to reporters at the Pentagon. “That’s why we all carry guns. That’s why we all get combat patches when we leave here. That’s why we all receive imminent danger pay. So, of course it’s combat.”
This comes just hours after Moscow reminded the world that if you haven't received an official invitation from Bashar al-Assad, you are not welcome to come to the party. Here's Reuters, citing Tass:
Russia's deputy foreign minister Sergei Ryabkov said on Friday that no country could use military force in Syria without first securing the agreement of the Syrian government, the TASS news agency reported.
TASS said Ryabkov was responding to a question about the prospect of the United States launching a ground operation in Syria.
"The question of using military force in any form without the agreement of Damascus is for us unacceptable," it quoted him as saying.
Make no mistake, this will be a disaster.
If US spec ops are placed with the YPG, it will run afoul of Washington's coordination with Turkey just two days before an election that revolves around Erdogan's attempt to paint the Kurds as a threat to national security.
If the Pentagon embeds US troops with the Free Syrian Army, well then they'll be engaging Hezbollah and the Quds directly.
Of course no matter where Obama decides to place the troops, they'll be at risk of getting hit by Russian airstrikes and the consequences of that speak for themselves...
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We've had our military "boots" on the ground advising ISIS and they have been getting slaughtered right alongside them just like Ukraine!
Otherwise why would the "white chimp's" head be on a swivel. He's fucking pissed because he's getting torn a new one just like Ukraine....
You have to remember that "name, rank and serial number" got thrown out after 9/11!
When you get whacked nowadays you just disappear and don't come home as most of them have a revolving door between active-duty and "active-duty merc"... And why would they want to be named when they have no legal reason to be inside Syria in the first place???...
Why the the Army Sgt in that "fire fight" even got mentioned probably has more to do with it being used as PR measuring stick for the boyz and girlz at home that want to volunteer after such a heroic loss! "Jessica Lynch 2.0"...
Of course they do this shit on a Friday.
Surprised it wasn't at 4:30pm when this was announced to get the full "bury story into the weekend" effect.
Today's New Hobby
Watching the sheep suddenly comment,and question(via Facebook) if this is a Proxy War
Pure Classic
If the same type of coordination and communication protocols are applied to Special Forces operations as are being applied to air force operations, then this could work.
I do not believe that the US will agree to this, however.
During the brief conflict in Georgia in 2008, some US and Israeli military personnel were caught up in the conflict. Technically-speaking, these men were probably there as mercenary "private" contractors. So, nothing was made over their loss. The Russians have taken a similar approach on a much grander scale in the Donbass regions of Ukraine.
The declaration that active duty uniformed special forces will be inserted into Syria and Iraq against the explicit wishes of both the Syrian and Iraqi governments is especially dangerous and foolhardy on two levels:
First, by international law and the UN Charter, the US has become a declared "aggressor". We are violating international treaties that we have signed and that we have called upon others (except Israel of course) to respect. (By the way, we are also violating our own laws; but we have been doing that for so long, it has become irrelevant.)
Second, there is no room for plausible deniability. ZioCons will demand escalation and retribution for every American casualty. We have no sympathizers in Suria. Eventually there will be no more sympathizers in Iraq. We will become unwanted and resented intruders to everyone.
But George Bush told me it was mission accomplished in 2003.
Bush is a Fucking Moron who was dropped on his head as a baby.
Now he acts like he doesn't remember anything between the years 2000 and 2009.
Someone on a web site had a great post. The Bush family made their money starting wars.
WW2 (Prescott and the Walker family too).
Vietnam and whacking of JFK. Poppy was there.
Gulf War 1
Gulf War 2 & Afghanistan
Bushes, Clintons, Obama = same people working for the same bosses.
We already have Boot's on the Ground in Syria. Their called Kurd's. Oh wait, Turkey hates the Kurds. As the plot thickens...
The policy is both schizophrenic and delusional. What's really sad it that the US government is deliberate in both its deceit of the public and its own grandiose delusions of solving the worlds problems. When things go bad for the US, and they will, there are some things our former partners (Russia and China), now our enemies will never forgive, betrayal is one, and stupidity that causes war is the other.
It seems like there are more then just US boots on the ground: Germany’s premier combat division has just trained in Israel for upcoming Mid-East war: http://osnetdaily.com/2015/10/germanys-premier-combat-division-has-just-...
Well, pretty soon the stupid Germans and the entire idiotic EU will sport beards, sing to Allah and dress their women up in nice little habits.
Apparently even the Feminazis don't mind as you don't see them out there demonstrating against their new visitors that regard them as property.
Obozo only wants US boots on the ground to protect the dirty maggot terrorists we have invested a trillion dollars in.
Wasn't he supposed to draw a line someplace first? Follow the goddamm procedure dude.
sigh.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n24/seymour-m-hersh/whose-sarin
EXCELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLENT!!!!!!!!!!
Advisors are CIA spooks w/ MANPADS!!!!
"Come on 'Dillos! Let's get it on!"
The corporate/banker owned Federal Govt really, really, really, needs a war to distract the public from all their screwups.
...and their final asset-stripping of the public.
Isn't the teaser photo the fake ass "Seal Team 6 photo that took out bin laden" that all my family members emailed me?
Seal Team 6 ?
Oh yes, I remember them. They were the ones who all died in a tragic helicoptic crash that killed all of the supposed eye witnesses who could later talk to the press about what happened.
Well, I guess accidents do happen.
The Seals are not part of the US Navy. They work for and are controlled by the See Eye Aye.
It aint going to happen. This is just the latest bullshit effort by the McCain led neocon war party to invade. Watch their stupid armed services committee Hearing and you can see what bullshit it is.
I can't believe how the MSM does stenography for these guys. No questions asked, they just trot the BS straight into print.
The real story is that the Neocons are going apeshit because Obama decided to change course on Syria after being threatened with the breakup of NATO by Germany who has been taking it up the ass with all these refugees and sanctions.
Fuck Walnuts. Fuck the neocons.
It seems as if Russia has to eradicate the FSA before American troops arrive, and that is probably not possible.
If the Russians manage to create a territory in Northern Syria that stretches continuously from the Mediterranean to Iraq I reckon that they should consider themselves lucky.
The West probably intends to create a state on the border to Golan that agrees to let Israel have Golan. The FSA will probably give up Golan if they depend on US support.
However, it seems as if the Kurds have chosen an alliance with the US rather than the Russians. I don´t understand why. Neither the US nor Russia will probably support an independent Kurdish state. Turkey has declared that they will attack an independent Kurdish state. Will the US do exactly the opposite to what the NATO member Turkey wants?
At glance, the most realistic long-term solution for the Kurds seems to be to create a smaller Syria in Western and Northern Syria together with the Alawites, Druze and the Christians. It also seems as if they don´t need to incorporate the Aleppo area in order to get a continuous piece of land from Eastern to Western Syria. I don´t understand why the Kurds, who generally are moderate Sunni Muslims, should prefer to live with Arab Sunni Muslims who generally are less secular than the Alawites. It should also be easier for the Kurds to influence the rule of a society in which they are a large minority rather than a small minority.
I don´t understand how the Russians and the Assad regime think that they would benefit from regaining territory controlled by radical Sunni Muslims. It should be hard to control a large population that wants to have Sunni rule where they live. But perhaps the territorial gains they are planning for are more modest. It´s also possible that the Russians don´t have any other objectives than prevent Assad from falling in the short term in order to preserve Russia´s credibility as a military alliance partner.
russia simply wants to preserve its military base in syria
" I don´t understand how the Russians and the Assad regime think that they would benefit from regaining territory "
Probably help in the same manner as it has helped the American Regime and its ally terrorists, the same terrorists "the USA gov" states committed 911.
I mean what do you suggest,,, they just let them stay there and build up strength. And other than being the bully of the neighborhood what right does the USA have in dictating another nations leader?
This shit gets so stupid you can't make sense out of any of it.
Oblobo, just let it go man. The world sees right through your rediculous shinanigans. Surely you can find some other defenseless country to blow up and pilfer.
Obama hasn't gotten slapped in the face with Russian cock enough times to make him understand.
I'm thinking he enjoys it and is hoping for the money shot.
These American pawns will be deployed to Kurds controlled territory most likely they will be killed by Turkish forces.
This is what I posted on ZH a few days ago regarding the potential for this kind of thing to happen:
What I see coming is the US embedding troops with the "opposition" (i.e. ISIS/ISIL) fighters and then covertly telling the Russians and Syrians that the troops are there. Therefore if Russian planes bomb those targets they will be attacking American forces.
This would be right in line with the kind of of duplicitous crap the US has pulled before. The only problem I see with this scenario is how the US justifies putting their troops in the same area as the supposed enemy - I'm sure their ministry of propaganda will figure something out though.
Russia has given the warning. If US troups are embedded with dirty terrorist maggots they will be threatened. If they die its the fault of our own stupid imbecile leaders.
Civilians have been dying by the hundreds of thousands in Syria for years while the US continued to support the proxy armies that contributed to the instability. Now we will be going there to protect the dirty terrorist maggots from Russia's anti-terrorist operation.
Yep
Delta is in country.
They advise and assist by killing people.
Their **presence** *is* the US having troops in a combat role.
Killing Assad's boys and their Iranian muscle is a huge assistance to the Syrian people.
They advise everbody else to stay the hell out of the way.
I'm OK with dead Quds, Hezbollah, Al Nusra, ISIS, etc. But the US has absolutely no business in Syria. Let the Israelis and Saudis play in their own backyard.
You have in mind a crap...
I think we continue our war efforts in part because we fear the international tribunals later if the recognized government stays in power. Damages may be huge and assets can potentially be seized around the world
Who thinks he doesn't want military conflict with Russia, or China for that matter?
I hope it doesn't get long for that 20 or 30 US sheeple be killed by Turkish forces
we already gave isis toyota trucks, now they want U.S. made boots too? these guys are getting spoiled...Next they will be asking for iphones and big macs. And then they want you sister or daughter..
The blonde will fetch a very fine price.
Knowing Obama's personality type and patterns, I predict he tries to drone strike or cruise missile Assad.
Boots on the ground...IN SUPPORT OF IS.
I guess that´s the real story.
IS may be on the ropes after a massive brutal drubbing by the Russians. The shining beacon , the exceptional nation can´t live with that.
Wow, you really believe everything the Russians say, don't you. No matter how crazy it is. Meanwhile, back in the real world, the Russians aren't doing dick to hurt ISIS, and we aren't doing dick to help them.
Well Vlad-o, the good news is your proganda services are winning some hearts and minds for you. The bad news is that it's only the dumb. crazy ones who spend all day on Internet conspiracy theory boards.
lol...
lol, welcome fellow nutjob =)
Wait! Weren't US citizens supposed to send their income tax payments to the Russians? Now I'm confused!
You don't seem to read up much do you? Everything about ISIS was allowed by the US and our allies. How can you deny that when even Kerry brought up the funding from countries such as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc., to ISIS and Al-nusra? We have been aiding ISIS since their inception, providing weapons and ordnance ("oops, those were for the Kurds. silly us!"), vehicles, even cold hard cash (captured banks just FILLED with reserves for no valid reason).
So, if any military force wishes to keep Assad in power, they must necessarily face down ISIS, hence YES Russia is helping to defeat ISIS. Putin himself directly said he was coming to Assad's aid and would not let him fall. He didn't say he was there to fight just ISIS, he said he was there to keep Assad in power.
You would have thought that before it had gotten this bad and out-of-control Obama would have spent some time actually in the Oval Office working and not always screwing around on Air Force One. Enough with the golf, the vacations, the fund-raisers! This is the guy who gets his morning defense briefing on a Ipad or something - no chance to discuss and question what is actually going on. Honestly, my day job is talking kids out of joining up. Not now, not with people like Obama in power and Hillary waiting in the wings.
Obama is going to 50 Troops at a time them to death.
"A leader leads by example, not force."
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Too bad we don't have one of those.
USA Forces in Syria without permission of legitimate government or UN resolution assisting terrorist in overthrowing Syrian government and causing even more refuges. All this while Russia is actually trying to get rid of said terrorists we arm and fund openly.
Now tell me these neo-nazicon weasels in Washington aren't insane. What in the hell has happened to this country? It's bad enough a citizen impostor holds office but to allow him to take the nation to war defending low life terrorists really takes the cake.
My god citizens,,, are you really willing to risk dying to support a bunch of bearded merc's terrorizing, raping and killing?
While I have never been gospel oriented I am beginning to have second thoughts witnessing the evil that has corrupted the country and its government. Say what you wish but something is radically wrong.
So where's the anti-war movement?
Remember them?
lol.... the boomers who led the antiwar charge in the 60's and early 70's now proudly fly their owners flag and send their young off to be cannon fodder for the Wannabee Empire.
Kind of sick when you think about it...
Hillary hired them to plant nazi feminist into Trump meetings. Code pink is wearing Walmart pajamas. You can easily spot them in a crowded room.
The Internet
http://www.salon.com/2012/02/08/repulsive_progressive_hypocrisy/
they'll be back just as soon as another white conservative gets back into office.
for all the association of "the right" with racism {and not unreasonably, in part} you will not find more hatred of other human beings as you will on the left.
Just ask Russian peasants circa 1925.
I was never Fonda Jane.
This should tell everyone for good and for all that we have absolutely no say in anything. Even the masses are tired of the endless Middle East adventure and do not support it.
The oligarchs will tear the US apart.
This is possibly just a face-saving, meaningless gesture by Obama to appease the neocon crazies. The 'boots' may set down in an area well away from harm and just play cards all day.
In WW2 the Yanks were keen to help prop up the Nationalist Chinese.
The DC lawyers dreamed up the "American Volunteers Group" (Flying Tigers) where
US pilots would resign,become civilians (sheepdipped),and fly contractually for pay
to support the Chinese.I don't think the Japanese were very impressed with this
diplomatic stratagem.It is noteworthy that this formation morphed into Civilian Air
Transport after the war,and was very active in the years leading up to the Viet Nam
war.The CAT airline is well known as a CIA asset,amongst other airlines,hotels,
newspapers,radio/TV stations,around the world.
General Stillwell thought the Chinese Nationalist Army to be hopelessly corrupt and all the financial
and military aid given to them wasted.He was correct.However Henry Luce,the publisher,kept on
pushing US involvement until the bitter end.
Mercenaries are guns for hire and do not receive much respect from regular forces,who experience
the same risk of combat but get paid about one quarter the salary.There are reports of Mercs
being executed during the Falklands/Malvinas conflict.
Sort of a fuzzy legal area (unlawful battlefield combatant).
Why would there be laws for war if the war is real?
They had better send a bunch over there. Our moderate beheaders and cannibals will make lunch out of them if not.
I condemn US for fighting ISIS with boots on ground! Damn them!
Our side will win those rebels in Syria because our side is smarter and stronger - it is:
Putin, Assad, ISIS, Iran VS Syrian rebels, Kurds, US
We will win this! We will kill those people! Go Putin! Kill people!
More like Putin, Assad, Iran, China VS Syrian rebels, ISIS, Kurds, USA, Saudis and NATO....with Turkey and Iraq sniping at ISIS and the Kurds both. The result will be as it always is...we the people lose, the big money wins.
You idiot! ISIS is in our team! That is why Vlad don't bomb them! We will kill those rebels and those syrians who support them!
Drink less and everything will be okay.
So what exactly are all fifty of these US special forces going to do? Invade a hamlet?
NO, They'll be setting up many large air conditioned tents, a few huge mess halls and a gigantic PX. And it ain't for refugees.
You know things are going badly when the news from MI is tucked away on page 3, and primarily documents body count numbers given to them by their govt.
"27 suspected militants were killed yesterday . . ."
" . . .drone strike on a suspected militant stronghold reportedly resulted in 14 deaths . . ."
This phase came and went about 4 months ago. This admin is still totally fucked, except now everybody knows it. Body counts would be laughable now.
With no air superiority. Marching to your death, spec war. The US hasn't won a war since 1945 and yet they had air superiority every time.
Just hope the community organizer doesn't abandon you on the battlefield.
No comment needed, you'll get it. Very fortunate to have people reach out to me. I still miss our illustrious London Banker member. Shit, we were on blogspot back then. How time flies.
EBN -We Will Rock You (Behavior Modification) - YouTube
If these morons go through with this insanity, you will be witnessing the beginning of WWIII.
the israelis have the greatest military in the world by their own assessment. they should provide the fodder for russian cannons. it is their war afterall. besides, slaughtered israelis make better tv.
If I was an insane religious maniac, I would say this is all following a pre-ordained plan
written in religious texts about how the big war between God and Satan is taking place...
But I'm not.
USA/ISRAEL REALLY WANT A FUCKIN WAR...DONT THEY!!!
"... the US military is contemplating how to insert itself into the battle without sparking a world war"
Without???
Baloney.
War with Russia has been the plan all along. The US will get eventually get what it wants, but it won't have the happy ending they think they are going to get.
Oh! Poor, little, absolute beginners. Do you know, the maniac who makes the dead hand, in the subway? Well, Obama is testing Putin, as already done with China: an announcement via press, and Beijing started yelling like a little girl. So the black man realized Chinese were afraid. He was right. But Putin is a very brave man and a genius, and doesn’t fall in the trap. At the moment Russia is seraphic and impassible. Mariya Zacharova has just only talking about Syrian refugees in Russia. If I know Vlad a little, he is warning the USA behind the scenes (not to humiliate them), if not, is waiting for an official announcement, then will freeze them. This time, Obama is in danger of walking on a gargantuan shit.
Obozo is a spineless feminine pansy. He takes his orders from the neocon cabal.
These boots on the ground are just going to be handling the on-site warranty repairs on the Toyota HiLux vehicles provided to the "moderate" al qaida rebels in Syria. The State department is very embarrassed of the amount of complaints they have been that many of their best customers cannot service their HiLux freedom fighter vehicles.
The boots will only be on the ground until a proper permanent Toyota service center can be built in Homs
Controlled chaos 101?
'Divide and Conquer' was great strategy for small tyme adversaries, but...the ultimate game is 'Controlled Chaos' in fractured continents?!?
This is the dangerous game the USSA is playing today. No longer is a country or empire enough[?], the USSA has its sights on sub-Continents as in quater`tyme!
read between the lines from the greatest geopolitical writer of our tyme and 'Sea the Horizon a Rising'? http://atimes.com/
"The Caliph at the gates of Vienna" http://atimes.com/2015/10/the-caliph-at-the-gates-of-vienna/
If Obama is managing the boots on the ground Will are military be required to wear 4" stiletto women's shoes and carry a rainbow flag for liberation? Unarmed of course.
Is anyone else getting the feeling that there's going to be an Archduke Franz Ferdinand moment in MENA sometime soon? With the crazy alliances and counter-alliances in that part of the world, where the US is supposedly supporting groups in one country, but opposing those same groups in other countries? With Russian jets hitting ISIS targets and Iran poised to hit ISIS on the ground, and we put US military square in the middle? There's going to be an "accident" sometime, somewhere. A US commando is going to "accidentally" shoot down a Russian fighter or Iranian infantry is going to hit a unit that contains US commandos "accidentally" and we'll move from a proxy war to a full blown WWIII.
This is just an insane idea from the same assholes that have had nothing but insane ideas for some time now.
Insane in the sense these leaders cant even stay on script...I mean didn't this al quida have something to do with 9/11 and yet now they are the moderates we are supporting? Perhaps the real answer is these leaders have been supporting these "moderates" all along and it is just the people who are insane for believing this horseshit?
While I agree absolutely with the idea of what you're writing it is my expectation that if there is to be a war it will be declared by the US and not China or Russia.
That's not to say that there will not be a war, I think there will be. I just think that Russia and China, Russia in particular, have already demonstrated that it is pretty much impossible to force them to take a position that the US wants them to take.
I think that the US thinks that Russia works the same as the US does. It doesn't, the levels of discipline, knowledge and skill are poles apart and so if the US plans from the basis of examining their own paradigm and extrapolating to that of their opponent they will get it wrong, every time. I think that this is exactly what the US are doing, they lack the skill to be able to empathise with the Russians and the Russian situation (and the Syrians and the Chinese and ISIS).
Bay Area, I'm waiting for the FED to say something like, "If anyone's going to give a blank check we'll do it".
I haven't had time to digest this yet. But one quick comment. The deployment of US troops on Syrian soil is illegal under all international law. This Obama move is an invasion, by all legal terms of international law, Obama has invaded Syria.
Today a democratic congressman, and Iraq war veteran complained that Obama was too weak. He wants more US troops in Syria, backed by armor and Air Power. Now mind you, this is a liberal talking.
We are on the road to WWIII. And as Marc Faber has said many times. "The USA will always find someone to go to war with". And there you have it!
And all because instead of the brain - the loot.
Jack Burton: The deployment of US troops on Syrian soil is illegal under all international law.
Not to get all nit-picky into the details but that never stopped any President before...
"...in the face of American ineptitude, the Pentagon is desperate..." I suspected it all along! Nobody left in the Pentagon is American!
You can be born in the boundaries of the US and still not be an American. We all know that now.
Being an American is to have a particular state of mind. To distrust authority. To do what is right.
Being a traitorous swine is to deny your American heritage. Ironic that they seek to remove our birthright citizenship, isn't it?
They're all Ziojews.
Hey Putin! The vast majority of people in the USA don't approve and don't want war either. Actually the vast majority of people in the world don't want war. We'd like to live in peace.
To quote Goering:
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."
--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials
Same as it's always been.
The most disquieting thing about that quote is that our leaders have actually started to attack us - or invited people in who will - instead of merely telling us we're being attacked.
Compared to our traitorous elites, these fucking nazi propagandists were benign towards their own citizens.
Remember when Clinton was impeached for perjuring himself over a blow job inquiry?
Funny how that makes it impossible to impeach any president after him no matter how egregious the offense committed against us.
Fuck Israel.
Stand back, folks. You're about to see what a third rate golfer is capable of!
"Lone Survivor" sequels coming to your neighbor theatre, SOON...
THIS JUST IN!
PUTIN NOT BOMBING TERROR GROUP HEZBOLLAH.
THAT WILL BE ALL.
wink wink...
PUTIN NOT BOMBING TERRORIST GROUP ISRAEL!
fixed it for u.
Ha-hah, stoned kuklo continues to grunt. Your brain is swollen fat!
LOL Obama's base gets the choice vote for Trump or ......Go to Syria.
LOL LOL LOL
we rebooted some folks...
<------ Putin ready for US troops
<----- Obama planed it during DWTS
Like thugs that turn up to a party uninvited. Not liked and definatly not wanted or needed. Go home Yanks, for you, the war is over
Oatmeal heads don't know what they're doing.
So is it Barry's idea to go out with a big bang and start ww 3 with both Russia and China. He would certainly leave an unforgettable legacy.
So is it Barry's idea to go out with a big bang and start ww 3 with both Russia and China. He would certainly leave an unforgettable legacy.
Where is Cindy and the rest of the code pink fucks at?
So there's the REAL quid pro quo for raising the debt ceiling.
The neocons got their war.
Don't be misled.
The US will probably deploy 4 or 5 of these special operations forces at a half dozen of the FSA/moderate rebel bases which have the most munitions and equipment to prevent, by the presence of the US special operations forces, destruction by Russian air attacks.
The Negro has been told by the Pentagon that the Russians will not dare to destroy any assets at bases where the special ops guys are deployed. As that would mean full out warfare between the East and the West, who have a full army on Russia's western border now.
Will Putin let the NATO coalition prevent his air force from striking Rebel assets used to kill Russian, Iranian and Syrian forces?
Call today for your two week supply of white cheddar and bacon flavored popcorn.
Kick off WWIII in style.
US leadership has exhibited psychosis for a long time. The ruin that has become the US is what happens when psychopaths rise to a position of power.
RUSSIA'S SIDE
USA/ISRAEL/SAUDI ARABIAS SIDE
I think the US is on the outs with Isreal. We are no longer BFF's, Russia is Isreal's new BFF.
I'm Jewish and even i find it hard to stand Israel these days.
love me or loathe me - you gotta read this {though, posted previously}
US Caught Faking It in Syria
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
in re-reading it, and going to a few more of the links - it's one of the very best articles I've seen on this.....cavalcade of fuckery.
(You know what needs to happen. It’s time to take out the trash!)
I, _____, having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.”
http://investmentwatchblog.com/to-the-us-military-regarding-your-oath/
50? That's it...50?!?!
A small town in west of West Virginia has the skill set and aim to take a mere 50 troops. Whoop to fucking do, 50 oh man that'll scare em!
Unless they are hybrids of Chuck Norris and Rambo I doubt even the laundromat down the fuming road will know they are there.
Chuck Norris and Rambo would never have a kid together. They don't get along that well.
Keep in mind a few dead American solders by Russian accidents isn't going to start a proxy war.
Rebels with SAMs and accuracy courtesy of US special ops taking out a few of Putins nice planes and super cool Rambo 3 copters however is another matter.
Today, Russia (strangely) performed exercises: at the same time, it launched ICBM and cruise missiles from Plesetsk cosmodrome, North Fleet and Pacific Fleet submarines, Caspian Fleet, Tupolev Tu-160. The sage says: forewarned is forearmed.
Putin needs to use the UN here. The U.S. is not immune from being condemned by the global community. Russia should also note any country that agrees with the U.S. regarding placing uninvited troops in a country, and merely state 'Your country is next'.
NWJ, it's not up to the UN, it's up to us Americans. We have to stop them.
This latest announcement by Obama that 'advisors' will be deployed illegally to Syria is another defining moment in our nation's history.
The Vietnam War started this way. First dozens of special operations people were sent to South Vietnam, then it escalated to full army divisions fighting the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese. The end of it was 58,000 American men died, a country was destroyed and the American military was defeated.
However there is a difference this time. The people have alternate media sources at their fingertips and the MSM cannot cover up the truth with lies any longer.
What will the youth of America do if Washington tries to institute the military draft? I know I will not let these bastards take my son or grandson. I will resist with any means available and if it means killing them so be it. If Americans have any courage left they will deny these evil minions of Satan the means to make war.
I swear to God they will die by my hand if they try.
Damn right.
For some reason (prolly Michelle) Obama wants to be remembered as the Negro Lyndon Baines Johnson.
Palestinian Woman Shot at Bus Station, Six Times: Israeli Police Alter Story Again
http://www.globalresearch.ca/palestinian-woman-shot-at-bus-station-six-t...
personally I don't think this will lead to much, if any escalation in regards to the Moscow v Washington ongoing saga. this seems to me to be more of a political move to try and gain a stronger position during the conference then a move of any real military significance. Moscow has zero interest in bombing the Kurds who in turn don't have any interest in seeing Assad ousted. as far as the FSA goes I don't see Washington embedding spec. ops troops with units that will surrender and turn over said troops to whatever jihad group comes along first.so I'm thinking there is very little chance that they will find themselves in a location that puts them at risk of being caught in a Russian airstrike.
unless, of course that is what DC wants to happen which could be but IMHO that is not the play here.
ironically by embedding them with the Kurds there is more of a chance that the American troops will be hit by fellow NATO country Turkey, who is actively bombing the Kurds in Syria. I think Washington in it's unending arrogance, ignorance and general psychopathy simply assumes that the Turks wouldn't dare launch strikes if they know US forces may be at risk. this despite the fact that they have already been warned otherwise. then again it's not as if Washington actually cares whether or not the dogs they let of the leash actually come back alive or not. hell, with the way they treat vets it would not surprise me to find that they preferred that they didn't.
if anything tips us over the edge it will not be Syria, instead it will be this ongoing conflict between Moscow and DC over the land based elements of the MDS in eastern Europe. Washington seems determined to push ahead with it despite the deal with Iran over it's nuclear program. now while it probably would not have a fatal affect Russia's ability to launch a nuclear first strike, it could dramatically effect their ability to respond if attacked first. which of course raises suspicion as to why DC is so instant on following through on it in the first place.
Moscow can read the writing on the wall.
MAD is the only thing that has kept the world from sliding into that abyss for over 60 years now, it was the only reason why the Cuban missile crises ended without a few billion people dead. any action that throws that balance off, which the MDS will certainly do and in a major way, is just inviting a disaster of epic proportion. once one side feels that they can "win" a nuclear war, it's only a matter of time before the idea becomes an attempt to do just that in action. sadly one needs only to read Washington's white papers on first strike doctrine to see that they are clearly insane enough to believe just that. or there is the other possibility, that being that the other side feels that they are now put at such a disadvantage that there ability to deter an aggressor simply by having nuclear weapons is no longer relevant or effective. leaving them with a feeling of halving no choice but to strike first in order to attempt to restore some kind of strategic balance.
either way that constantly boiling issue is far more dangerous to life on earth than what is happening in Syria. unless of course Moscow and Washington really do start shooting at each other in the skies and bombing each others positions on the ground. if that happens it could get out of anybody's ability to control regardless of plans or intentions.
it seems the whole world is a tinder box right now and we are all just hoping nobody drops a match.
"hell, with the way they treat vets it would not surprise me to find that they preferred that they didn't"
Truer words were never spoken.
anyone know if theres anything approaching reliable info on this purported story?>
Iraq Captures Israeli Colonel: Confesses To Israel Isis Coalition.
http://politicalvelcraft.org/2015/10/24/iraq-captures-israeli-colonel-co...
Virtually sure its bullshit for a couple reasons, but...
lol all israel!
Pentagon press secretary Peter Cook said that “U.S. forces are not in a combat role in Iraq.” He said a team of elite U.S. soldiers had provided transport and support for the Iraqi Kurdish commandos.
Lying piece of shit.
You don't send the D-boys in to be donkeys for the fucking Kurds.
“train, advise and assist” mission
Hmm, where have I heard that one before? Advisors early on and 10 yrs later you are pulling out a defeated Army. This time it could end in a few hot hours of rocket launches if they ain't careful. When these Pols and armchair generals get to waving their dicks around to impress, it scares the hell outta me.
Obama's handlers are afraid of the 2016 election, they need to start WWIII now in case one of their neo-con tools like Hillary or Rubio fails to be elected.
Moar sabre rattling from the chicken hawk crypto-imperialist rus puppets.
this should end well (sarc)