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Tsipras Blames Western Military Meddling For Syria Crisis: "You Reap What You Sow"
As anyone who followed Greece’s protracted bailout negotiations with creditors is no doubt aware, Athens had very little in the way of leverage when it came to countering German FinMin Wolfgang Schaeuble at the bargaining table. Try as they might, Alexis Tsipras and Yanis Varoufakis were ultimately unable to use the threat of Grexit to extract concessions from Brussels and the IMF.
In hindsight, what’s interesting about the incessant back and forth between Athens, Brussels, and Berlin is that both sides were attempting to use a euro exit to bolster their positions. That is, Germany was attempting to scare Greece with the prospect of a depression in the event the country reverted to the drachma and Greece was attempting to scare Germany by throwing the entire idea of the euro’s indissolubility into question. In the end, Berlin prevailed as the purse string proved mightier than Syriza ideology.
But while tacitly threatening to disprove the notion of the euro’s indissolubility proved insufficient as a bargaining chip, one thing that Alexis Tsipras and, before he was banished from the party, Panagiotis Lafazanis, were able to employ somewhat effectively was the idea of a Russian pivot. On a number of occasions, it appeared as though Moscow was ready to come to the aid of the Greeks in defiance of the EU and predictably, the proposed partnership centered around an energy deal. In effect, there were rumors that Gazprom would advance Athens some $5 billion against future revenues from the Greek section of the Turkish Stream pipeline and although that deal never panned out, it was enough to worry Angela Merkel, as the last thing the EU wanted in the midst of the Ukraine crisis was to see Russia effectively annex Greece.
Fast forward four months and Greece is on the front lines of Europe’s migrant crisis and while Alexis Tsipras may not be the man he once was thanks to the troika’s deplorable campaign to strip Syriza of everything it stood for in January just to send a message to Spain and Portugal, sometimes the old Tsipras shows up out of the blue to remind the world that the fire hasn’t been completely extinguished. Case in point: on Friday, Tsipras lashed out at Brussels for the bloc’s handling of the migrant crisis but more notably, he also suggested that the West’s military meddling is the root cause of Syria’s prolonged civil war. Here’s AP:
Greece's prime minister lashed out Friday at European "ineptness" in handling the continent's massive immigration crisis after 31 more people — mostly children — drowned in shipwrecks in the Mediterranean Sea.
"I want to express ... my endless grief at the dozens of deaths and the human tragedy playing out in our seas," he told parliament. "The waves of the Aegean are not just washing up dead refugees, dead children, but (also) the very civilization of Europe."
"What about the tens of thousands of living children, who are cramming the roads of migration?" he said.
Tsipras blamed the migrant flows on western military interventions in the Middle East, which he said furthered geopolitical interests rather than democracy.
"And now, those who sowed winds are reaping whirlwinds, but these mainly afflict reception countries," he added.
"I feel ashamed of Europe's inability to effectively address this human drama, and of the level of debate ... where everyone tries to shift responsibility to someone else," Tsipras said.
So apparently, there's at least one European leader who "gets it" when it comes to explaining why hundreds of thousands of people who were living with a repressive regime for decades suddenly decided it was time to flee to Europe.
That is, it's not like Syrians didn't know their government had autocratic tendencies - a couple of hundred thousand people didn't just wake up one day and say "hey, this guy might be a dictator, let's leave and settle in Germany." Rather, the West and its regional allies armed multiple Sunni extremist groups on the way to starting a civil war and now, Europe is discovering what happens when you foment sectarian violence in the Mid-East.
Of course it won't matter. No one listens to Tsipras anymore thanks to the troika's efforts to subvert democracy in Greece and discredit someone who might otherwise have become an important figure in the world of geopolitics. And so, the charade will continue: first blame the "brutal dictatorship," then claim the Russians are making it worse.
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No shit, man?
Sweden: Journalist stoned while trying to film in no-go zone
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/10/sweden-journalist-stoned-while-trying-...
But remember - you're a "xenophobe" if you think Sweden should be the homeland of the Swedish people and not a melting pot ruled by the One Bank
Moving the Swedish Army into those areas for live fire exercises will soon fix those rock throwers, just needs some one with balls to take back the country.
I guess blaming non-Arabs for Arab crises makes sense if the blamer thinks of Arabs as being incapable, irresponsible, ignorant, bestial and so on, because of oh, inbreeding(lots of consanguineous marriage) Islamic programming, and the poverty that goes with those.
Personally I think thats overthinking it.
That sort of thinking means that if I start a war in your country then it is your fault....you are clearly no intellectual heavyweight.
Mr. Tsipras, ANY interference, be it government or military, has unintended consequences. You, politicians and soldiers, have a persistent tendency to overestimate yourself.
that's nothing, I got stoned while reading ZH
Does any junker not a hasbarat auto junker care to explain their reddie?
You bet they won't / all hasbarats
;)
http://thesaker.is/yemen-libya-egypt-israel-sitrep-october-31st-2015-by-...
Will it be Volvo or Saab who changes the name of the suspension setting of their cars to "desert camel" when the going gets rough?
Tsipras only half gets it (or only half lets on).
The "migration" of the "Syrian" "migrants" is an organized takedown of Europe. The aim is to sow chaos which will be solved by imposing a police state. Cloward & Piven.
I seem to recall that when his father died the current Assad was viewed as less repressive and an improvement.
"who were living with a repressive regime"
It does not fit the narrative to mention this?
It does not fit the narrative to mention this?
The tribe thought he's be a pushover and that the Yinon Plan would be a reality ;) It turns out that he's not so easy to remove and their plan for a 'Greater Jizrael' has now failed,,so now he's Jew Enemy number 1.
The guy is an ophthalmist for heaven's sake!
Ever heard of someone who was a psychopath choosing to become an eye doctor?
The amount of propaganda out there is amazing.
This traitorous faggot still exists?
Traitor for sure, but, he speaks the truth on this.
Be that as it may, he's a day late and a dollar (or 300 billion) short. I remember the endless TV analysis of the 2008 collapse. Naturally, it was after the fact. It always amazed me how they could analyze everything in such a precise manner afterwards but nobody knew anything beforehand. Same holds true with this.
MUST-SEE US Senator Attacks Defense Secretary for not Planning War With Russia!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC7Fz0d9H8M
Noice.
I want to see a video where someone is talking about taking down this motherfucker. Does ANYONE not ask what basis in LAW that all of this has for insisting that Assad be "fought against/taken down?"
Most Syrians want to remove Assad? Assad killed all the syrians?
graham is full of shit, the general is full of shit, and the defense secretary is full of shit.
Most Syrians want a stable, secular state free of foreign mercenary terrorists and those who do not mostly want a Sunni Islamist nightmare.
We have to attack Syria to recover Hillarys lost server located in a Aleppo closet downtown.
The number is *several millions* of people. There are millions dispossessed within Syria. There are several million in surrounding countries, and only a small minority are trying to make their way into Europe.
And you lot are freaking out over the few travelling to Europe.
That's how bad it is.
Fuck this socialist piece of shit, he sucks the wests teat, betrayed his people.
His girlfriend Varoufakis was also in the media this week:
"As a European, Merkel fills me with pride" (about the refugee crisis she caused)
http://www.n24.de/n24/Nachrichten/Politik/d/7534802/-als-europaeer-erfue...
Dude reads ZH commentary thread apparently.
Putin is Defeating More than ISIS in Syria
October 16, 2015 (F. William Engdahl - NEO) - Russia and its President, Vladimir Putin, a little more than a year ago, in July 2014 were the focus of attention in Europe and North America, accused, without a shred of forensic evidence, of shooting down an unarmed civilian Malaysian airliner over eastern Ukraine. The Russians were deemed out to restore the Soviet Union with their agreement to the popular referendum of Crimean citizens to annex into the Russian Federation and not Ukraine. Western sanctions were being thrown at Russia by both Washington and the EU. People spoke of a new Cold War. Today the picture is changing, and profoundly. It is Washington that is on the defensive, exposed for the criminal actions it has been doing in Syria and across the Middle East, including creating the recent asylum crisis in Germany and large parts of the EU.
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http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2015/10/putin-is-defeating-more-than-i...
Putin must now make haste. And encircle or capture Aleppo with brute force. USA is starting its time buying strategies, suddenly calling for cease fires, and deploying illegal invasion US boots in Syria, deals with Assad, Iran.
The Quartet should keep the Yankees busy, pretending to negotiate, meanwhile prepare the total endsieg and press on unrelented while they have momentum.
If the US is capable of creating and running religious head-chopping nutjobs like ISIS resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents, then it is more than capable of enabling the shoot down of a single jet with a few hundred people in it.
Putin played the last 10 years brilliantly.
The Greeks were sold out on the referendum vote, and I still question if that was by design. [ some souls were traded]
Nonetheless, people continue to starve, and Europe is being invaded by southern mongrels.
He's a master at statecraft.
Shut up pussy.
He is indeed a filthy piece of shit, stating the obvious, anything to divert attention from his own failure.
Ok. Most of the Syrian people are decent people who were living in a country that has been drawn into a civil war by the US & the Saudis, because its president didn't want a Qatari pipeline to go through his country.
Now, terrorists and scum use the crisis to enter Europe. That's what driving the europeans crazy. A lot of them have already a large population of muslim who are creating at least trouble, and the worst to come. But still Europeans accepted these muslim, pretty much on the slow boiling frog principle. And there's a lot of people with muslim background who have fully embraced the European culture, including drinking, eating pork and never talking about islam. Doesn't happen much anymore.
Europeans would have accepted real refugees if they haven't been lied too. Everyone can see they're not refugees for the most part. But if you dig just a bit, you'll find videos of middle class Syrian population, who are now refugees in Europe, they're "normal", no beard no veil, educated and all. But there are a very few of them indeed. And anyway, these ones are gonna go back when they can...
Now, there's still the blind: they don't want to see this thing for what it is. But clearly, this is going to end very badly. Europe is on a collision course with islam, once again. If the muslim countries have "dictators" it's because otherwise, they go batshit. And anyway, every time somewhere the muslim population grows too big, it ends in a bloodbath. Whether it's at the independance of India, in Lebanon,in Kosovo, I don't know, it's always the same shit happening. Every fucking time.
So yeah "xenophobic" they say... Let see how it went down a year from now...
On this topic, he is 100% correct.
Gotta love the backbenchers.
Tsipras, you pussy, you still around? Sold your countrymen right down the river. Even after Russia offered you a Sweet deal. What a Dumb Ass.
You reap what you sow?
Over 300,000 Syrians dead, over 1,000,000 injured, and over 4,000,000 refugees - who is suffering here? Not the Nobel Prize Winner or the Europeans who have a migrant problem now.
NATO should have learnt from its total destruction of Libya, which was easily the richest country in Africa.
No one gives a fuck about dying, injured or displaced Syrians. No one gives a fuck about 3.3 million Iraqis killed from 1990 to 2012:
US Sponsored Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012. Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Childrenhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-genocide-against-iraq-1990-201...
Alon Pinkas, a former Israeli Consul General in New York explains: ".Let them both [Government and rebels]bleed, hemorrhage to death: that's the strategic thinking here. As long as it lingers there's no threat from Syria."
The Greeks talking about responsibility and consequences is more than ironic. Just like the Syrians they go begging Germans for a hand out.
The MESSAGE, despite what people may think of the messenger, is STILL the MESSAGE. The basis in fact is here. The US's policy, in collaboration by/with the members of the EU, has been to derail Assat. This has all been a plan LONG in the making. Count Israel in on it, for sure. And don't lose track of the basis for most WARS (capture resources):
https://www.rt.com/business/317906-oil-golan-heights-israel/
Well done ;-) Assat?
You go way back<>
IMO, the Satanic international bankers want control of those countries, its banks and its peoples and its monies. For all the radicals in the area, those people do know better and it ain't gonna happen.
Note to TD: No one listens to Tsipras because he's a pathetic, 3rd string, arriviste...
Sell Out? Bought?
CIA/Mossad JFK tape?
I seem to remember some ex_mossad type saying the JFK murder was used in their training programs as an example of the perfect political hit. Given their arrogance, I suspect they were involved somehow in this 'perfect' operation. The alternative explanation would imply the goy was capable of perfection.
Don't worry, the fun is just about to begin....
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/30/ukrainian-wikileaks-mccain-and-s...
I don't think he gets it. He just wants some sympathy points back that he lost to his people by lying to them and betraying them. Well good luck with that.
who?
I'm not sure he gets it entirely. No mention of the roles Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Israel or Turkey in the destabilization of Syria?
Didn't this clown have his 15 minutes of fame?
Things have gotten so bad now, politicians (Tsipras) have resorted to telling the truth...I never thought I'd live to see that.