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don't forget the MIC
Well done...should be required of every parent to have this "sit down" with the child the bankers want to use as cannon fodder
Because government's only tool is the gun. A system based on violence must create violence.
"Men who are free to produce, have no incentive to loot; they have nothing to gain from war and a great deal to lose. Ideologically, the principle of individual rights does not permit a man to seek his own livelihood at the point of a gun, inside or outside his country. Economically, wars cost money; in a free economy, where wealth is privately owned, the costs of war come out of the income of private citizens — there is no overblown public treasury to hide that fact — and a citizen cannot hope to recoup his own financial losses (such as taxes or business dislocations or property destruction) by winning the war. Thus his own economic interests are on the side of peace." -- Ayn Rand's The Roots of War, 1966.
Funny how a single cartoon can sum up the true nature of things so succinctly...
The ability to say profound things with few words is among the rarest of traits.
This illustration beats the shit out of the last 20 NYT cartoons posted on ZH by a ton. A ton.
And as much as statists think a factual discussion like the one depicted would destroy the psyche of a young mind, my experience with my own children has proven the opposite. They can accept unfairness and wrongness with surprising ease if they understand that it doesn't change the fact that you love and support them, despite the fact that the broader world may not always be fair or just.
NYT would never post this one. Way too much truth here, their reader's heads would explode.
< A banker.
< Black suited muslim from ISIS.
Who wants to cut off your head with a dull knife while shouting aloha awk bar?
There are a lot of dangerous evil people in the world who would gladly destroy America if they thought they could get away with it.
Blaming all wars on the bankers (by which you of course mean the Jews) is simple minded leftie bulshit agitprop.
Why has Zero Hedge been taken over by this nonsense?
It's hardly nonsense and you seem to be out of touch with just who are the "bad guys" in the current geo-political-financial war... You worry about radical mussies with dull knives taking off your head, yet you fail to acknowledge that they are organized, funded, trained and directed by the US... This is undeniable after the Obozo Admin just this week admits to having special forces embedded with the "terrorists" in Syria and Iraq... Time to look in the mirror and realize the you are looking at the enemy... USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!
Israel is not the US.
But the same tribe controls both countries.
Great cartoon by the way! That is the lesson all sane parents should give to their children.
Poor kid. It should be an Afghanistan family with a teenager asking: "Why have I grown up knowing only this war?"
No, young Khaled isn't going to be an extremist. /sarc
Yes it is, USSA is the bitch of terrorist rat izraHELL, isn't denial bliss ?
He is just a simple minded knob.
Where do you think ISIS is getting the money for weapons?
Why do you think all of these young men are suddenly signing up to fight to the death when the region had been relatively stable post-Crusades?
Face it dude: The MICs run in, destabilize countries, and look the other way while the victims vow revenge and plot attacks so Americans will not question the perpetual war. We put Saddam Hussein into power, gave him conventional and chemical weapons to fight Iran, and then we bumped him when it was convenient. We helped Osama bin Laden when he was opposing the Russians, and then looked the other way while he was plotting attacks against the US.
Over In Egypt and Syria, we have Christian sects that are as old as the religion itself, who are being wiped out at the hands of people we are backing. BTW, Ted Cruz was caught berating a group of Christian refugees from Syria for not being pro-Israel enough. It's all a farce, they are playing on your fear and backing both you *and* them, so they can profit of the ensuing carnage.
Best way to refute this is to watch the following, from a fellow Jew (who happens to be a gorgeous woman):
https://youtu.be/Ch5XlEZoi1c
I would totally Baltz her
You said it 0b1knob - a dull knife. How is that even possible? Apparently you fell for that faked video propaganda.
New York Slimes, please.
The only criticism I ever hear about the NYT and WP are typically from the demographic of the NYP and WT.
In a left/right scheme of things, this is how I see it:
<-----------------------------------------------------Noam Chomsky--------------------------------NYT--WP---NYP--WT-->
"Funny how a single cartoon can sum up the true nature of things so succinctly... "
That's why the nazis loved using them.
Fuckin' ALL OF THE ABOVE
You're an idiot. Why? Because this is so damn easy to figure out that only an idiot would still come up with bullshit. Defense budget is $600 billion for 2015. If you weren't so retarded you would understand that Uncle Fraud has to spend taxpayers money before it can come back in the form of PAC donations. Weapons acquisition is one of the best methods for laundering PAC donations. The F-35 for example.
When you watch all those candidate commercials on TV. Remember, retard, it is taxpayers money that is funding it. Stop thinking of bribery, aka lobbying as non-existent. IT IS NOT!!!! It is what makes our political machine operate. What the FUCK does it take to make you recognize this? We conduct wars simply for this reason. To recycle money back for reelection campaigns.
"Men who are free to produce, have no incentive to loot; they have nothing to gain from war and a great deal to lose."
One of Ayn Rand's most obviously and objectively (no pun intended) wrong tirades. Private bankers and arms manufacturers have been profiting from war for as long as we've had both. Not to mention that there is profit to be made from the resources that belong to others before they are taken by force.
So you believe that a socialist banking scheme and arms production at the behest of the state are "productive" activities?
The Ten Planks of the
Communist Manifesto
1848 by Karl Heinrich Marx
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
you're not thinking this one through very clearly, LTER.
how exactly do bankers and arms dealers make money from war?
could it be that their customers and the source of their income is government, hm?
without a government, what do you think would happen to their business?
I actually agree with you. The problem is that human beings form groups, and whether by choice or force, governments have existed for as long as human beings have. Ignoring that fact and basing an ideology around the absence of that which is inherent in human nature is sophomoric or just childish.
And Ayn Rand was a Zionist who advocated for a strong military, by the way.
As always you refuse to admit the difference between groups formed by voluntary participation and those formed by coercion.
As always, you refuse to admit that almost all governments before the United States existed were formed by force. I'm speaking of reality as demonstrated by all of human history. You read some books about a better way. I like the idea of a better way, but all of history teaches us that it won't work.
"If man was meant to fly God would have given him wings." -- LTER, circa 1902
I'll give you this, Billy. If mankind ever develops a machine that makes whatever you want out of thin air, maybe we could have your world of no force and agression. Unti then, sociopaths will take what they want, and enlist others to help them do it. Even then, I'll bet some sociopaths will just take control of the make whatever you want machines and use them to make big guns to make the rest of humanity bow down before them. Because they are fucking sociopaths. And then the rest of humanity will need to form groups to try to take the machines back. And we'll be right back at this discussion.
I'll give you this, Billy. If mankind ever develops a machine that makes whatever you want out of thin air, maybe we could have your world of no force and agression.
There is no such machine but there is something that can lead to a similar end in a more practical manner. It is called the human intellect. When informed individuals can educate other individuals as to the fact that voluntary cooperation creates more wealth for everybody while government coercion can only lead to the redistribution of whatever wealth remains after a destructive war then we'll be on our way.
The biggest obstacle to this is not the oligarchs themselves but the otherwise intelligent individuals who refuse to cast off their chains.
When you said:
As always, you refuse to admit that almost all governments before the United States existed were formed by force. I'm speaking of reality as demonstrated by all of human history. You read some books about a better way. I like the idea of a better way, but all of history teaches us that it won't work.
You correctly indicated that there can be changes in the way individuals are organized despite previous history. If you can see the historical progress from tyrannical monarchy to a democratic republic why do you suggest that any further progress is impossible?
"I HEARTILY ACCEPT the motto, — "That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe, — "That government is best which governs not at all"; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have." -- Thoreau
"Give me something to believe in." - Poison.
"Don't try to change me or rearrange me
To satisfy the selfishness of you
I'm not a piece of clay to mold to your moves each day
And I'm not a pawn to be told how to move
I'm sorry I'm not the fool you thought would play by your rules
But to-each-his-own philosophy.
Let me be, let me be,
To think like I want to
Let me be, let me be
That's all I ask of you
I am what I am and that's all I ever can be"
-- The Turtles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xav6C6YyLU
On the side of a hill in a deep forest green
Tracing a sparrow on snow crested ground
Blankets and bed clothe the child of the mountain
Sleeps unaware of the clarion call
On a side of a hill a sprinkling of leaves
Washes the grave with silvery tears
A soldier polishes and cleans his gun
War bellows in scarlet and blazing battalions
Generals order their soldiers to kill
And to fight for a cause they've long ago fogotten
Are you going to Scarborough Fair?
Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme.
Remember me to one who lives there
She WAS once a true love of mine
WAR SUCKS..FOR EVERYONE...EXCEPT THE BANKERS
It is a RACKET. It makes the fucking Bankers rich off of the blood and suffering of the injured and dying.
Does any of the nonsense that you and LTER debating really matter?
War is so fucked up. I know that both of you can agree with this.
"That government is best which governs not at all"
Truer words were never said. People have been violently ruled for so long and propagandized so effectively that even now they adamantly insist on having a master. Vehemently arguing forced subjugation is necessary for health/safety/order/peace/wealth/feeding the poor/educating the children/building the roads..... They clamor to bow some higher authority labelled "government" which is nothing more than some other ordinary men, laughing.
There's something much worse than a "wish machine" LetThemEatRand, It's one of the unintended products of the wish machine: "The monsters from the ID".
(Forbidden Planet)
Slavery has existed for 99.99% of human history, but thanks to straight WHITE males, it has been virtually eliminated. "That's how we've always done it" is an argument for moral cowards.
Go unionize your employees llibtard.
The people who connive to place others into situations where they can be used to kill and steal from still others are not men. They are demons and should be dealt with as such so that men know what awaits them if they allow themselves to be possessed by them.
But seriously, even if they are human they are evil psychopaths and you cannot apply a simple stricture to such extreme outliers to justify dismissing it. Look at socialism. If you applied the same technique you might conclude that socialism works because of a few outliers with unique circumstances (hello Norway and all your black bubbly) when the vastest of vast majorities fail miserably and often violently.
There are exceptions to every rule. Delving deeper... If said demons/psychopaths were not intentionally creating the conditions that put other men into positions where looting and war look to be better prospects than the status quo then we might have some pretty interesting results.
Billy:
I'm not sure why three government parasites downvoted your comment. Rand's comment there is spot on, there is zero economic value add by building shit to blow it up and murdering people. Anybody who can't grasp that simple comment is a Grade A moron.
It may be a zero-sum game, but SOMEONE is profiting at everyone's expense!
Hi Chris88.
The state propagandizes in many ways. Some people support war because they fall for the jingoistic claptrap of "bad cop" militarists. Others support war less directly by believing that the state and only the state can create "social justice" and so they fall for "good cops" like Obama who can kill without conscience while bearing a "Peace Prize." Public schools and media lead people to avoid individual thought. This supports the state and ensures that the violence of the state will continue against targets both foreign and domestic.
Why do we fight?
“In times of stress the genes assume control and reason disappear.” — Reg Morrison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qJENhVdgXI
Well, September 11 was stressful for everybody and helped usher in a whole new era of destruction but the US (and other colonial powers as well) have waged war on small countries for a majority of its history, In many of these cases the populace wasn't even aware that such wars were taking place let alone being stressed out by them.
September 11, 2001?
Is this the best you can do?
Americans don’t know stress, Buddy.
"The General population doesn't know what's happening... and it doesn't even know that it doesn't know." — Noam Chomsky
September 11, 1973:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
You said that stress causes people to support war and here you cite the stress put upon the supporters of Allende in Chile. Is your point that Allende's supporters then ran around fomenting wars due to that stress?
First, I wrote “Why do we ‘you’ fight?’
Second, I used Chile’s September 11 because, as I wrote, Americans don’t know stress. And even less history. And you prove my point. 29 thousand people were detained and tortured in Chile. 30 thousand had to leave Chile. And the terror went on for 13 years. All supported by America.
My final point
By Chris Hedges: A public that can no longer distinguish between truth and fiction is left to interpret reality through illusion.
When opinions cannot be distinguished from facts, the world becomes a place where lies become true, where people can believe what they want to believe. This is the real danger, far more pernicious that stereotypes.
Decayed civilizations always make war on independent intellectual inquiry, art and culture for this reason. They do not want the masses to look into the pit. This obliteration of “false hopes,” requires an intellectual knowledge and an emotional knowledge. The first is attainable. The second, because it means that those we love, including our children, are almost certainly doomed to insecurity, misery and suffering within a few decades, if not a few years, is much harder to acquire.
First, I wrote “Why do we ‘you’ fight?’
No you didn't. You wrote:
And then you followed up by saying that Americans are not stressed but Chileans are stressed leading to the logical conclusion that you believe that Chileans have no reason and act aggressively.
Americans don’t know stress.
Of course Americans know stress. We are human animals too. If you think that being oppressed by the US government from afar is stressful try living directly under the boot of the tyrant like we do. For example, does this person look stressed to you?
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/red/blue_pics/20...
And even less history. And you prove my point. 29 thousand people were detained and tortured in Chile. 30 thousand had to leave Chile. And the terror went on for 13 years. All supported by America.
Of course I am aware of what happened in Chile. Just because you imagine that I don't know about it has no bearing on my actually knowing about it.
When opinions cannot be distinguished from facts, the world becomes a place where lies become true, where people can believe what they want to believe.
You mean like when you express the mistaken opinion that I don't know history when in fact I'm well versed in that subject? Why engage in the very behavior which you claim to oppose?
A true understanding cannot begin until the correct verbiage is used.
It's not about profit-the bankers create the currency we use! They can, and do, create "profit" at will.
It is about CONTROL. Pure and simple.
Their currencies are the puppet strings of us humans.
It is about the domination by the dark side of the force.
It is about a denial of the God [insert name here] given INDIVIDUAL SOVEREIGNTY of each one of us.
If we do not exercise our individual sovereignty, we are but merely MINIONS.
Store the fruits of your labors in their 401k's...they control it.
"Buy" your properties...they control them.
Drive your petrol fueled vehicle...they control the supply.
Watch your electronic entertainment device...they control the mass produced content.
Breathe the fresh mountain air...they [will] control the carbon credits.
"It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
Gott mit uns.
Obviously that we’re talking in circles. And that you don’t get it.
First: The gene point was to bring attention to our animal (survival) instincts. Unless, of course, you are a follower of Jainism; because, for what I read, their religion overcame this animal spirit.
Second: Americans, because of our (two car garage/the bible tells me so) lifestyle, are the main cause of global stress. Especially in South America and Central America. Does the Iran-Contra scandal, just one example, that killed thousands of Christians in Central America ring a bell?
My answer: No. It doesn’t. Because they have no clue about these issues.
Again, don’t take my word for it. Ask the people you know about the US funded Contras in Nicaragua, and the Jesuits priests killed in San Salvador by US trained forces.
Obviously that we’re talking in circles. And that you don’t get it.
As you've already discounted everything I might say before I even say it I'll let you chase your own tail from here on out.
Oh...so it is Jamie Dimons fault. Got it.
...should be required of every parent to have this "sit down" with the child
How about reading a bed time story to the kid? We don't need no stinkin' badges; coersive governments, police, taxes, jails, courts, legislation, etc. The free market manages all circumstances of wrong doing. Consider the Non Agression Principle.
Step by step instructions: Here -or- Here
You're welcome.
Regarding this:
Well done...should be required of every parent to have this "sit down" with the child the bankers want to use as cannon fodder
They do wait a little longer for the "where do babies come from" talk, like preteen at least.
They are both talks about the mechanics of "getting fucked."
dont forget you MEDS...........
How these psychopath Jews Conquered the West => http://wp.me/p4OZ4v-2mp
MIC is a byproduct of the elite psycopaths. Let's face it, if the people in charge could do it on their own, in the free market, they would not need all the guns, and would not need war.
End of history lesson. No need for 8 more years of the bullshit. Let's study something worthwhile now students...
Zionists.
Shhhhh! Don't tell Jim. He did say the banks own the government.
Oh, grow up, you namby-pamby leftist pacifists. War existed before globalization and will exist long after we hang them high. Pretending otherwise is mental illness.
“I do not believe any policy which has behind it the threat of military force is justified as part of the basic foreign policy of the United States except to defend the liberty of our people,” Taft wrote. It is that comment, along with his 1949 vote against joining NATO, which explains why Taft is usually cited by Republicans today as an example of the so-called bad old days. Taft also didn’t want the United States to have a peacetime draft. The domestic consequences of an aggressive foreign policy, he warned, would lead to the curtailment of civil liberties."
https://mises.org/library/robert-taft-and-his-forgotten-%E2%80%9Cisolati...
"Robert A. Taft, in full Robert Alphonso Taft (born Sept. 8, 1889, Cincinnati, Ohio, U.S.—died July 31, 1953, New York, N.Y.), Republican leader in the U.S. Senate for 14 years (1939–53) whose espousal of traditional conservatism won him the sobriquet “Mr. Republican”
http://www.britannica.com/biography/Robert-A-Taft
>“I do not believe any policy which has behind it the threat of military force is justified as part of the basic foreign policy of the United States except to defend the liberty of our people,” Taft wrote.
>Taft also didn’t want the United States to have a peacetime draft. The domestic consequences of an aggressive foreign policy, he warned, would lead to the curtailment of civil liberties."
And I agree with that. That's exactly what I'm saying, in fact.
Socialized defense isn't leftism? I'm confused. Government bootlicker.
And yet you don't comprehend what I wrote, inventing your own nonsense to libel me.
You'd make a good leftist.
The desire to murder others IS MENTAL ILLNESS. The desire to order people to murder others is....just fucking EVIL!
And yet you don't comprehend what I wrote, inventing your own nonsense to libel me.
You'd make a good leftist.
Wars existed long before globalization, but world war is a pure child of globalization. Just search when FED was found.
I've coined a new word..........jews+usury......jewsury
no jewsury.......no wars
end the USURy
end the jews
end the wars
pretty simple stuff........
To coin a phrase: The Simpsons already did that one.
You do recall the little dust up in Poland a few years back?
you are correct sir.............MY BAD........
https://www.google.com/search?q=jewsury&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
I should of jewoogled it first...........haha
Well then you did "coin a phrase" as that means to use an existing phrase (like minting a coin from a die) rather than to create an entirely new phrase.
Jim, I did upvote this but, what happened on 9/11? Have you seen the light?
Of course he's seen it but knows he's finished if he explains what he saw. Hard to blame him. Would you have your career destroyed if you were in his place?
I saw the 9/11 light within a couple of years but in the work/public context kept quiet about it. Shameful I know but I had a wife and family to feed. Im free to do it now.
Lucky, what are they gonna do? Chop your head off? I don't think so. Maybe a career in a crap system is just not worth it? Besides, sometimes principles require risk. Some of the FFs lost everything. Re. JQ, he's been an energetic denier since day one.
@Conscious. I held a Senior VP position at a 'household name' tech company. Most of the top executives were Jews and it was not because they were better than the rest of us. There was no future for anyone perceived as an 'anti-semite'. Even a non-supportive statement on Israel was received in deathly silence even when there were no Jews present. Had I spoken my true beliefs on 9/11 I'd have been terminated and the network would have ensured I had immense difficulty getting something else.
Nothing to be proud of I admit.
Re JQ. Has he been a denier of the truth or the lie since day one?
Simpler explanation: because of Muslims. All the other religions (and atheists) left their stupid religious wars behind centuries ago.
Go to West Belfast during Marching Season.
Or, you could go to Gaza or the West Bank almost any day and see Jews killing Arabs and a small amount of vice versa.
"Simpler explanation: because of Muslims."
Victoria Nuland is Muslim? Who knew?
Victoria Nuland Admits Washington Has Spent $5 Billion to "Subvert Ukraine"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2fYcHLouXY
That... Is one of the most profoundly, insanely idiotic things I have ever read, and I visit 4chan almost daily.
Your stupidity is weapons-grade.
The basic monotheist religions are so passe' for an excuse for war. There are new types of religion. But they all have one thing in common. Exploiting FEAR!
Learn what a jew is, please.
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Presented with no comment...because the graphic is spot on !
Is there a lot of s4it on the domestic front to distract from - then you unite people through wars. We are under siege, 'help', 'use force' was one of Hillary's soundbites.
Are the gas companies operating in Qatar paying for the Syrian adventure or are the taxpayers? Obama would not have become a memorable POTUS if he hadn't carved out his own war; every President gets one.
why does it not say Zionist Jews on the picture instead of "elites"? why are people so scared to name them?
Because people have careers to manage, and because they can't afford to be litigated into bankruptcy.
So why don't YOU have a go at it, nice and public?
He just did. What's your point? Cowards everywhere. Your right. Better shut up. Maybe they'll take your cable tv away.
maybe because it's not just them? duh!
as far as i know, the bushes, clintons, obamas, are not jewish.
we need to end the reign of the oligarchs, no matter what their religion - don't turn it into a petty, religious, my imaginary man-in-the-sky is better than your imaginary man-in-the-sky, the religion that the perpetrators are pretending to be is irrelevant.
Red herring alert! Nothing to see here. Hey, look over there!
Ask Helen Thomas. Or Brendan O'Connor, or Joshua Bonehill, or Maurice Sinet.
> why are people so scared to name them?
There are around 1-2 billion Jews on this planet, it's not that easy to resist this army of slave-holders created by another civilization/form of life.
> why does it not say Zionist Jews on the picture instead of "elites"?
"Elite" doesn't mean "top-notch" or "top-shelf" as this scum self-portrays itself, etymologically speaking, it's a derivative of El (Saturn)/Elohim, that's it -- and Jews themselves are slaves of another race, doesn't matter what it is called, "Elohim", "The Greys" etc -- Jews worship _them_ anyway (check the Tefillin cargo cult: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tefillin).
Now, compare the first two chapters of the Old Testament/Torah.
Genesis, Chapter 1 describes creation of the human race by the _God_ (whatever that means), while Chapter 2 depicts creation of the Jews by the _Lord God_ (the Satan) -- and Eden is a planet/part of the Hell.
Genesis:1
https://www.bible.com/bible/1/gen.1.kjv
[...]
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
[...]
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
[...]
The sequence of steps makes sense so far: they created water, land, plants and then males and females.
Now look what the unaccomplished _Lord_ God (Satan) does:
Genesis:2
https://www.bible.com/bible/1/gen.2.kjv
[...]
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
[...]
21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
[...]
Obviously, the latter team of more junior terra-engineers used another instruction manual, and created the whole thing in a different sequence, "earth", "plants", "the water", then they created a prototype, "Adam", from the "dust" and a with single gender only (hence, Tay-Sachs Disease and other genetic nightmare + homosexuality, since there was no second gender, then they created a "woman" from "Adam"'s rib.
P.S.
Now, what's the point of listening to mullahs and priests if most of them are Jewish shepherds for goym anyway?
And it's 21st century (so to say, since the official chronology is also baloney) -- even if one is stupid enough to drink alcohol, he can at least read the first two pages of the freaking Bible/Old Testament/Torah and compare them (or just check Quran and find evidence of that pedophile Mohammad fucking a 12-year old girl Aisha).
Mommy is obviously anti-semitic.
Your programming is showing. Zionists are crypto Jews. They are also not semites. But do go on.
Did you forget /sarc tag?
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://roguemoney.net/wp-content/upl...
...and a HATER.
Yes-obviously she was talking about jews. Everything she said fits the psycho Jews who have all the power -so based on this -that she was talking about jews -she clearly is anti-semitic. I hope Abe Foxman and ADL go after her - this kind of anti-semitic hate will likely help Abe raise millions of more dollars. It may also help shame our congress into putting boots on the ground in Syria and iraq so we can stand up to the anti-semite Putin and iranians. Actually shame is not necessary - Bibi needs to just tell them to send more money -and they will send 20% more than he even asks for.
Just about says it all.
We have wars because some psychopaths expect gains. Stupid sheeple believe some god favors them. Ask cui bono for both sides. For which god are those fighting for your side expecting glory. Which gods grant glory for their supporters? Stupidity is dying for a false god.
Turn the question around: Why do you always fight with your brother? Why not just give him a hug instead? Humans have an innate drive to win, because winners get to pass on their genes. Men want to kill other men, and women want to mate with men who kill other men (like that cutie who married Charles Manson, or all the girls who crush on Dzhokar Tsarnaev).
(like that cutie who married Charles Manson, or all the girls who crush on Dzhokar Tsarnaev).
But those are exceptions to the rule. Most people are neither Charles Manson nor Charles Manson groupies. The majority of individuals have no desire to cause harm to their neighbors. While there is an aggressive streak in man there is also the need for and love of friends and family based on the evolutionary imperative of survival and the boost which voluntary cooperation gives in that regard.
That's called in-grouping, and the larger your in-group, the more likely your side is to win. Barbarians in-group with people they've known since childhood, while citizens in-group with anyone who signals the same citizenship. The latter allows a vastly larger in-group, but signals can be faked, and sometimes break down entirely. Like when Germans in-group by signaling willingness to let their country be overrun with refugees.
The best way to win is to play a productive game (while maintaining defensive capabilities) rather than a destructive game.
You still have to know who's trustworthy and who isn't, or your factory will produce nothing while your workers get drunk and steal your equipment to sell for scrap.
Kenya routinely suffers massive electrical outages because thieves knock down transformers and drain the oil. Street vendors buy this stolen oil because it's full of PCBs that make food fry up extra crispy. Does that sound like a country that will ever produce anything worth exporting?
Prison groupies are not exactly the same as women who desire to mate with broad shouldered men.
Besides it's been proven that women seek perceived intelligent male providers (meaning higher earners) during one part of their cycle and muscleheads during the other part.
Yeah, they want Jeremy Meeks when they're ovulating and the homely nerd with a good job when they're not. Alpha fucks and beta bucks.
Or look at chimps vs. bonobos. Chimps often gang up and kill other chimps -- the closest thing to war they're capable of. Bonobos solve problems with orgies instead -- everyone has sex with everyone until they're all tired out.
The bonobo way looks like fun, but if these two races weren't separated by the mighty Congo River (neither ape can swim), we know which would win!
The judge smiled, his face shining with grease. What right man would have it any other way? he said.
The good book does indeed count war an evil, said Irving. Yet there's many a bloody tale of war inside it.
It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge. War endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and will be. That way and not some other way.
He turned to Brown, from whom he'd heard some whispered slur or demurrer. Ah, Davy, he said. It's your own trade we honor here. Why not rather take a small bow. Let each acknowledge each.
My trade?
Certainly.
What is my trade?
War. War is your trade. Is it not?
And it ain't yours?
Mine too. Very much so.
What about all them notebooks and bones and stuff?
All other trades are contained in that of war.
Is that why war endures?
No. It endures because young men love it and old men love it in them. Those that fought, those that did not.
That's your notion.
The judge smiled. Men are born for games. Nothing else. Every child knows that play is nobler than work. He knows too that the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the skill and strength of the opponents and the humiliation of defeat and the pride of victory are in themselevs sufficient stake because they inhere in the worth of the principals and define them. But trial of chance or trial of worth all games aspire to the condition of war for here that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.
Suppose two men at cards with nothing to wager save their lives. Who has not heard such a tale? A turn of the card. The whole universe for such a player has labored clanking to this moment which will tell if he is to die at that man's hand or that man at his. What more certain validation of a man's worth could there be? This enhancement of the game to its ultimate state admits no argument concerning the notion of fate. The selection of one man over another is a preference absolute and irrevocable and it is a dull man indeed who could reckon so profound a decision without agency or significance either one. In such games as have for their stake the annihilation of the defeated the decisions are quite clear. This man holdgin this particular arrangement of cards in his hand is thereby removed from existence. This is the nature of war, whose stake is at once the game andthe authority and the justification. Seen so, war is the truest form of divination. It is the testing of one's will and the will of another within that larger will which because it binds them is therefore forced to select. War is the ultimate game because war is at least a forcing of the unity of existence. War is god. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIQynsWpBpQ
War is God
Cormac McCarthyKudos for Blood Meridian quote. Perhaps the ugliest, most fucked up book I ever read, also perhaps the truest.
it's garbage.. Love is God via creation.. If War was God nothing would exist to be destroyed
It is indeed our leaders, but they are just human, so we know that if we were in their position, we would do the same.
We don't behave that way with each other, can't believe that our leaders do.
But we expect them to behave that way, to act like men, our idea of men. Somehow, visions of peace do not come automatically to our mind.
Wonder why that is?
thinkpatriot.wordpress.com
Human beings as far as the eye can see -- half a million! -- protesting against the war their "leaders" imposed upon them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH2dsp4Vr3A
Billy---thanks for that. I was in the crowd.
wow.
Cool. I joined the peace movement in 1970 when I was six so I was a little late for this. Also Mom didn't let me go to protests, I just got to sit in on the meetings and petitions drives.
Wars occur in all peoples, it's normal.
As does rape but that doesn't mean that rational individuals shouldn't seek understand the causes in order to avoid it.
well said Billy
I thought it was to defend our FreeDumb
Ok Now what are we going to do about it Mom ?
well you cant do anything about the chosens so go put on your Caitlyn costume and get ready for Trick-or-Treatin
We have wars because the people who cause them generally dont fight them, generally profit from them in some way, and are not generally punished for them.
Also money, resources, religious myths, power and pussy.
(Not perfect by any means but thats my stab)
Yeah, the cartoon left out the lust to expand the tax base and power base.
Hot damn!!! From the viewpoint of The Great Red Dragon 1889 book, they nailed it!
WOW - nailed it!
you guys
stop waring with one another
Better answer: Because life is war, and war should be embraced. Our body is in a constant war against microorganisms and disease. We are in a war against other humans, too, based on competition for resources. War isn't always as simple as direct physical violence, it can be more sophisticated. Without something to fight for, life wouldn't be worth living.
A very succinct explanation of the paradigm of fear. But, if the inevitable outcome of this reasoning is the annhilation of the species ( along with most others) where is the meaning? What is the worth, if only ability to propogate is the prize? Yet striving for the prize, with all of humanity's creativity, eliminates the prize.....
If humans are eventually replaced by another master species, then that is just part of life and its evolution. We lose.
It sounds to me like you place "meaning" in the continued existence of homo sapiens. Well, there is something for you to fight for! There is your "meaning"! Our annihilation is certainly not inevitable (prove it). You're just being pessimistic.
You may attack my position on the basis of lack of it failing to provide an objective meaning to life, but I contend that your position provides no more objective meaning. How worthless would life be if we knew that we could never be destroyed and had no more enemies, indefinitely? We'd probably commit suicide! At the least we'd fall into a deep slumber that we'd never wake up from. But all of this is assuming that we could possibly end the "war" of life without ending all life itself in the process. My intuition is that that may not even be possible.
> the paradigm of fear
More like the paradigm of embracing life and being optimistic about it. We are all involved in the "war" called life right now and it's not ending any time soon. If you don't like it, there's a very simple way for you to cease to participate.
Another master species? You lost it right there
"Our annihilation is certainly not inevitable (prove it). You're just being pessimistic."
The sixth mass extinction is certainly not inevitable but...
it won't be a "master" species, it'll be bacteria. See Canfield Oceans.
We may be presently committing "Omnicide". But hey, only one way to be sure! MEANing...
It's amazing to me that you can use so many words to say so little. You are seriously fucked up and should seek some help
who let the lowbrain spiritiually voided fucknuts in tonight?
sure mammal.. just eat, shit, fuck and die
its not that simple, the psychopaths run the government
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we have been told that is what our government is good at and only should have the tools and knowledge to provide for
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the psychopaths want to lure family's and society TOWARDS the government as a protector, its a better deal for them, besides they think that's what the big shots with the keys want anyways
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isolate humiliate victimize and destroy people
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its all about infrastructure, i.e. human
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the government and its proxy's get rich doing it, the stupidest part is its a big secret
sociopaths are good at business
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what does that mean?
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I have been told that shit by cons, felons, and cheaters because they can get people to accept it.
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faith and belief are different, another world of knowledge the parasites of society want to bring to ruin. all they need is an excuse, any ism will do.
"Sociopath" is a label that you apply to someone who is stronger and better than you. It's easier to whine and feel bitter at them than to do something active to improve yourself.
Sociopath is an aberration in the brain that shows up on scans now. Soon they will be detected routinely.
And nobody is better than anyone else.
Actually, it starts with someone who is psychotically insecure and hence paranaoid, has no conscience, and thus will do anything to win at all costs.
Wow, you really are a douche bag.
".... and we can't stand the sight of blood".
SUM DUM argument over a hot chick.
The ghost of Genghgis Khan tells me.
"He's tired of all the blood."
Feminist arguments welcome. S/P
Because of greed and fear.
Arms are an instrument of evil,
No measure for thoughtful men
Until there fail all other choice
But sad acceptance of it.
triumph is not beautiful......
Conduct your triumph like a funeral.
-Laotzu
uh huh.
Why is one:
"US has no permanent friends or enemies ..only interests.." : Henry Kissinger
How is two
How can we have permanent wars big & small : having no real friends ....plenty enemies .. only interests.
Pedant alert: KIssinger plagiarized this....like so much else. The original was by Lord Palmerston who observed "We [the British] have no eternal allies and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and these interests it is our duty to follow"
Yep - Palmerston, he of the original {h}opium wars... ;-)
Although this is true it is also not the only cause of war. You also have the wars of religion and idealogy.
Wrong question.
It should be why is the US in one continious war, thet never ends.
The answer is quite complicated, but the simplest answer is, people must die so that a few americans can live high on the hog. The right thing or wrong thing, freedom and democracy has nothing to do with it, it's all about oil and money.