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ISIS Releases Video Of Alleged Russian Airplane Mid-Air Exposion After It Claims Responsibility For Disaster
That didn't take long: following the worst Russian airplane disaster in history, the question everyone was asking is who is responsible. Moments ago we may have gotten the answer.
A militant group affiliated to Islamic State in Egypt claimed responsibility for the downing of a Russian passenger plane that crashed in Egypt's Sinai peninsula on Saturday, the group said in a statement circulated by supporters on Twitter.
Below is the full statement from a group alleging to speak on behalf of Islamic State, posted on their affiliate site, translated by the Guardian's Jahd Khalil. It offers no evidence that the group brought down the plane, apart from their word.
Breaking: Downing of Russian airplane, killing of more than 220 Russian crusaders on board.
Soldiers of the Caliphate were able to bring down a Russian plane above Sinai Province with at least 220 Russian crusaders aboard.
They were all killed, praise be to God. O Russians, you and your allies take note that you are not safe in Muslims lands or their skies.
The killing of dozens daily in Syria with bombs from your planes will bring woe to you. Just as you are killing others, you too will be killed, God willing.
The tweet in question:
#Egypt #ISIS Claim Responsibility for shot down the Russian Aircraft over Sinai #IS #ISIL pic.twitter.com/tBCRt7Xen1
— Abu Ibrahim Raqqawi (@raqqa_mcr) October 31, 2015
Many expressed their initial skepticism that ISIS is the responsible party:
UPDATE: Responding to IS claim, Russian Transport Ministry says it "can't be considered true;" plane at 31k feet, outside MANPAD range, @BBC
— Stratfor (@Stratfor) October 31, 2015
#ISIS claim re. #Russia airliner -- 3 possibilities:
1. False claim
2. Bomb on plane
3. ISIS [somehow] has advanced air defense missiles.
— Charles Lister (@Charles_Lister) October 31, 2015
An analyst with the Center for American Progress, Mokhtar Awad, told the Guardian that the Islamic State’s claim of responsibility "is quite vague.
“It doesn’t state how they were able to ‘down’ the plane allegedly. Even the most sophisticated of portable surface-to-air missiles cannot reach that high an altitude and are only a threat during periods of take-off or landing, but the plane had already climbed to its target altitude (from what we know thus far) when it began to likely experience technical failures.
The local affiliate, Wilayat Sinai, has been under some pressure over the past few months and may have jumped the gun on taking credit. Although there isn’t a precedent for such a spectacular lie about something they claim to have done, Islamic State itself has recently been embellishing more and more. For instance it claimed that the recent prison raid by Kurdish and US special forces were a total failure, when in fact video evidence surfaced showed them freeing the hostages. So this may be an instance of the rooster taking credit for the dawn.”
Of course, it could simply have been a bomb planted on the plane and set to explade after 20 minutes of flight time.
Another theory that has emerged is that a prior structural shock (in 2001) led to a spontenous midair disintegration:
What jumps out from this particular airplane’s record is an accident that it suffered on November 16, 2001 while landing at Cairo (while owned and operated by Middle East Airlines). As it touched down the nose was pointing at too high an angle and the tail hit the tarmac – heavily enough to cause substantial damage.
Tail strikes like this are not uncommon. The airplane was repaired and would have been rigorously inspected then and during subsequent maintenance checks. Nonetheless investigators who will soon have access to the Airbus’s flight data recorder will take a hard look at what is called the rear pressure bulkhead, a critical seal in the cabin’s pressurization system. Images from the wreckage in the Sinai show parts of the tail and rear fuselage near the site of this bulkhead lying clear of the rest of the debris, suggesting a possible break-up in flight.
In the event of a failure of this bulkhead, the airplane would have suffered a sudden and potentially explosive decompression; at its final recorded altitude of 31,000 feet the difference between the pressure inside the cabin and the air outside would have been at the point where such a catastrophic failure would be most likely to occur. The wreckage shows no signs of a fire or an engine-related explosion.
On the other hand, this is like saying Lehman had an earnings miss in 1994 and filed bankruptcy 14 years later.
Even Russia's transport minister Maksim Sokolov has said that the claim Islamic State militants brought down the plane "can’t be considered accurate".
Now in various media there is assorted information that the Russian [plane]... was supposedly shot down by an anti-aircraft missile, fired by terrorists. This information can’t be considered accurate.
However, to corroborate their claim, ISIS has allegedly released this shocking video showing what appears to be a mid-air bomb explosion.
Viewer discretion advised.
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— ???? (@iq2015_bgd) October 31, 2015
Although according to latest social media updates, even IS Sinai is stating that this video is fake.
IS Sinai says purported vid of Russian plane being down is a fake
— Samer Al-Atrush (@SameralAtrush) October 31, 2015
As a reminder, this is where the alleged explosion occurred:
Whether or not the video is real or staged like many of ISIS' previous "made in Hollywood" productions, is currently unknown.
Of course, is the same ISIS which a recently leaked CIA report revealed as being created by the CIA as a "tool" to overthrow Syria's Assad.
In other words, a proxy organization of US "shadow government destabilizing operations", trained in U.S. ally Turkey, and openly funded by both U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar, just took down a Russian plane.
The question now is did ISIS use a US-made surface-to-air missile to start what may be a very unpleasant war.
Also, does Russia get a carte blanche to begin attacks on ISIS in Egypt now, the same Egypt which recently "purchased" the two Mistral ships made by France, which were meant to be bought by Russia in a deal that was scrapped in the last minute due to NATO intervention?
One thing is clear: if the Russian population had any qualms about continuing the campaign in Syria, they were just eliminated in perpetuity.
We now await the Russian response, against both ISIS and its direct and indirect sponsors.
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"ISIS" in the Sinai is 100% ISRAEL.
What's funny is that they think no one knows this. Or they just don't care anymore.
I think yesterday's announcement of "boots on the ground" was some sort of greenlight, or Israel read it as such at least.
"Boots on the ground..."
My thoughts exactly! Russia will at the very least step up their pace in Syria as a result of this plane crash until the find out what's in the black boxes. If it's bad news? If it was ISIS? Does Putin spread out his forces to Egypt as well?
ISIS as a USA proxy and guilty of the attack on the plane AND "boots on the ground" sounds like WWIII Russia vs USA in Syria.
Did Obama just stop playing Yahtzee and make his first Chess move against Vladimir Putin?
The black boxes will probably be worthless(tampered w by the Israelis who are already on the ground) or, hold no pertinent info, if there was indeed a catastrophic, immediate failure or explosion.
Let's hope that the actual wreckage holds the answer, and that the evidence is extensive enough that it can't be pilfered away by said Israelis.
Toe to toe with the rooskies.
Payback from Israel? Plane was hit 25 miles from Israeli border. Maybe 75 miles to nuclear facilities at Dimona. Remember KAL 007 shoot down, said to be a provocation to test Russia air defence over Sakhalin Island, at a point in time when a space shuttle was directly overhead.
This has all the earmarks of a Mossad operation, down to targeting civilians for maximum terror effect...
How about just the assination of Larry McDonald on KAL 007, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_McDonald
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BPhYEFGaGM
Larry McDonald was with a financial braintrust enroute to a banking conference in Japan, was expected to present a strong argument that would have prevented the entire BOJ situation now in play...
Definitly an assassination of the US's best and brightest...
Thank you G.H.W. Bush, de facto Potus for 2 terms, actual for only 1 term. (RR wasn't supposed to survive the hit).
Interesting how these demonic cocksuckers sacrifice their first-born to Molach, Bush's oil buddy Hinkley provided his goofy son for the 'cause'.
"Beware the Lamb!!!"
Murder is what they are guilty of.
Pretty sure these Airbus planes can be taken control of by satellite ground control, nobody has to fire a rocket anymore if they want to send a message or take out a target onboard.
Also, when we say we're going to give them "MANPADS" it's also to cover any other suspicious attacks from large/state weaponry that ISIS and their command structure in the US military may deem necessary.
Sort of how they blamed MH17 on a "Buk". They know that even when the basic facts don't line up, people are still fooled.
MANPADS/Patriots/Cruise/planted explosives, whatever. Large artillery... and the rest is down the memory hole.
Ukraine has been reported as keen to supply SAM 8 / 9, along with Buks to ISIS, via Suadi / Turkish intermediaries. Ukraine has recently ceased coopoerating with RUssia over exchange of end party info for their manpad sales.
15 october: Kiev cosying up to ISIS
http://robinwestenra.blogspot.co.nz/2015/10/kiev-cosying-up-tp-isis.html
26 October: CyberBerkut found evidence of Ukraine suppling weapons to ME
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/...
30 October: Ukraine suppling weapons to ISIS
http://novorossia.today/kiev-junta-supplying-weapons-to-terrorist-group-...
Reverse conspiracy theory. ISIS did not do it, but wants you to think they did.
My cat claims he did it, but I know he is lying. He is holding me hostage as we speak, demanding tuna.
Whatever the result turns out to be in reality, I was expecting this announcement. Daesh and others will do and say anything to try to start WW3.
World War III is already started. It isn't an all out nuclear exchange between great powers, which nobody wants, but rather a series of civil wars and proxy wars, and random acts of terrorism. This could even include economic sanctions that hit countries hard. This would also involve directing movements of terrorists into areas such as the northern Caucasus, the Crimea, the Ukraine, and Europe. Also included would be false flags, not to mention capturing resources or destroying resources, causing nuclear plant meltdowns, and the like. This could go on indefinitely. Civil war may even come to Europe in the not too distant future. The thing to watch for is the use of tactical nukes, bio weapons, etc. Possible use of tactical nukes was the great explosion inTianjin, China, a big bomb dropped close to Damascas in 2013, big bombs being used in Yemen, etc. So why waste time waiting for a classic war between great powers?
Xtly.
Terrorism is everywhere.
Currently my brain is holding me hostage and it is demanding Beer!
My brain is holding me hostage also and demanding a cat that does not smell like tuna..... oh wait, I misunderstood... it said it wants "pussy".
ISIS sure got a quality video up and edited in a hurry for something they didn't do.
The whole thing stinks, of what I'm not as yet sure.
I think the 'Russian response' is kinda known already...flight tracker data had Putin's doomsday plan leave Moscow and go circle near St. Petersburg. Then a 'no-callsign' plan left St. Petersburg (same Registration of Putin's plane) and both plane ferried together down to Moscow with the doomsday plane leading the way.
I would imagine this is sorta like the 911 attacks and Russia considers this an act of war. It is going to be very, very interesting.
Maybe the Pearl Harbor-like event they were looking for.
When Russia initiated their campaign against ISIS a few weeks ago, the MSM began spinning the false narrative that Russia was using a fight against ISIS as a cover story to go after the FSA rebels in defense of the assad regime. Safe to say this incident puts that lie to rest!
That was not a lie. It was not the full truth either.
Russia has never said they would only go after ISIS. They said a terrorist is a terrorist and they will go after all of them.
They go after ISIS and FSA and any other group that is attacking Assad's government and simply do not care if the group is funded, supplied and trained by CIA, MI6, Israel, Shitty Arabia or the cast of Phantom of the Opera.
The Sharm el-Sheik airport opened as an ISRAELI air force base. It probably still is. At the very least Israel is still involved with security there.
Good point, This is from wikipedia.
Before 1967, Sharm el-Sheikh was little more than an occasional base of operations for local fishermen; the nearest permanent settlement was in Nabk, north of Ras el-Nasrani ("The Tiran Straits"). Commercial development of the area began during the Israeli presence in the area. The Israelis built the town of Ofira, overlooking Sharm el-Maya Bay and the Nesima area, and opened the first tourist-oriented establishments in the area 6 km north at Naama Bay. These included a marina hotelon the southern side of the bay, a nature field school on the northern side, diving clubs, a now well-known promenade, and the Naama Bay Hotel.[citation needed]
After Sinai was restored to Egypt in 1982, the Egyptian government embarked on an initiative to encourage continued development of the city. Foreign investors – some of whom had discovered the potential of the locality during the Israeli occupation – contributed to a spate of building projects. Environmental zoning laws currently limit the height of buildings in Sharm el-Sheikh so as to avoid obscuring the natural beauty of the surroundings.
In 2005, the resort was hit by the Sharm el-Sheikh terrorist attacks, which were perpetrated by an extremist Islamist organisation and aimed at Egypt's tourist industry. Eighty-eight people were killed, the majority of them Egyptians, and over 200 were wounded by the attack, making it the deadliest terrorist action in the country's history (exceeding the Luxor massacre of 1997).[1]
The city has played host to a number of important Middle Eastern peace conferences, including the 4 September 1999 agreement to restore Palestinian self-rule over the Gaza Strip. A second summit was held at Sharm on 17 October 2000 following the outbreak of the second Palestinian intifada, but it failed to end the violence. A summit was held in the city on 3 August 2005 on developments in the Arab world, such as the situation in the Arab-Israeli conflict. Again in 2007, an important ministerial meeting took place in Sharm, where dignitaries discussed Iraqi reconstruction.[2] The World Economic Forum on the Middle East was also hosted by Sharm el-Sheikh in 2006[3] and 2008.[4]
There was another "inexplicable" disaster involving a planeful of Parisians out of there, in 2004. Sorry no link, but it's all on the wiki.
From the NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/24/world/middleeast/death-toll-rises-to-a...
Also ISIS supposedly fired rockets into Israel from the area back in July. We know damn well that Israel did it themselves.
If someone really hit Israel we would never hear the end of it, and they'd very publically and officially invade and occupy the entire area. Talk about "Little Green Men"!
Yeah this is all beyond obvious at this point. Bomb planted at Ofira AirForce Base oops I mean "Sharm el Sheik airport", or are we to believe "ISIS" - purportedly a bunch of chaps from Iraq and Syria, "shoot" it down with ... whatever? Does ISIS have Cruise Missiles now? LMAO.
I was at Naama Bay for 6 months in '83, just below the Multinational Forces and Observers post. One hotel. The supermarket in Sharm el-Sheikh had shelves full of margarine and not much else. The pita bakeries used US AID wheat, the flour sacks were clearly marked in English. Tourists came on buses. There were some very strange German buses that were like mini hotels. I had a block of cheese I brought from Cairo, the same cheese Reagan gave away in the USA was on sale in Cairo supermakets. The main thing was that the water at Sharm was good to drink thanks to the Israelis, other places in the Sinai it was not. If you walked out into the desert you would see old dried stems and vines from Israeli vegatable patches. A friend of mine who was a Bedouin had a Chevy Luv pickup truck - he couldn't leave the area with it, no papers. It's a weird world.
When the Russians conclude their investugation, and release the results/evidence, I would then agree with their conclusion. If, the claimants are proven correct in their statement, some folks are in VERY deep shit.
The Russians finally have someone they can hate more than the Chechens.
Russians do not hate Chechens per se. They hate extremist Wahhabi fanatics, who are usually funded / trained by the CIA. Some of those have been and are Chechens. Ordinary Chechens are strong supporters of Russia, and Kadyrov, the Chechen leader, has offered to send Chechen ground forces to Syria.
How? By using these condom bombs they developed?
Ithink they'll find conclusive evidence within a week. Wreckage, black boxes and radar all available.
Pilot radioed in engine trouble and requested an emergency landing.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/egypt-plane-crash-live-ko...
True, it could be that simple.
Israel wants to draw Russia in... to weaken it...
must tread carefully, do not fall for their plan.
Russia needs a diversionary tactic now.
Fairly new to this place though i have been lurking for about two years. Ive learned much about our policies in the ME over the years from these posts. Im 50 years old and this is the first time in my life am actually getting scared of what the future holds for me and mine. The world is changing so fast, all the bullshit in europe with the invasion of the head choppers, and our government acting like a bully at the playground in the ME. Its really a loose loose deal for everyone. THe US clearly has lost the moral high ground in this one but they wont stop they just keep swinging and swinging with no regard for anyone. And we the people are just along for the ride however unpleasent.Im sick of this shit!!!
You're definitely not alone there Valjoux.
just start preparing
Our duty is to start shooting.
The millions of refugees are not "head choppers". What a fucking idiotic remark. They are millions of ordinary people whose home and national infastructure has been destroyed by the US, NATO and its proxies. Here's an idea. If you don't want millions of refugees coming to your homeland, don't bomb their countries into rubble.
If you continue on this site. the first thing that you have to do is stop being a simpleton.
Yea totatally agree i was just frustrated, stillon my first cup of coffee and this is first thing i read....
hello Atticus Finch, Don't usually disagree, but the US invasion of Mexicans, Guatamalans is due to carpet bombing of Guadalahara?
In fairness though, NAFTA amounted to an economic carpet bombing campaign.
hmmmnn..........
"the invasion of the head choppers" is not a "fucking idiotic remark" but in fact supported by a number of articles in the mass media. Here is but one (find others by searching: ISIS refugees Europe).
“ISIS is smuggling extremists into Europe using boats carrying migrants across the Mediterranean from North Africa, an adviser to the Libyan government has said in an interview.”
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/isis-fighters-hiding-among-migrants-bound-f...
Your ignorant or a liar Atticus, if the entire infrastructure is destroyed are all the women and children these ECONOMIC migrants left behind are they all dead then??
They all seem to be carrying cell phones apparently we forgot to blow up the cel towers in the ME. Simpleton indeed...
Name ONE time in history when people in a country being attacked run for their safety towards the attackers.
Welcome to ZH. As long as you often mention Jews, Joos, Zionists, Israel, etc. as being behind evrything from you stubbing your toe to terrorist attacks you will fit right in with the majority of the new generation of commenters to this website.
Magic joos, they fly but only at night and have mindpowers to control the weakminded.. Wait that is the MSM, so yeah maybe that part of the story holds some water, destroy the MSM, CNBC is on board with that at least..
They paying ya overtime today? If you don't like the site why not try out Haaretz? They may be more to your liking.
This whole anti-Jew thing is just for people who do nothing against the problems that they claim are caused by Jews, ignoring whether there is in fact the conspiracy they claim to see or not. Psychologically speaking, it is crutch for people who feel powerless (not that they are to blame for feeling powerless). It wouldn't be surprising to discover that these same people are heavily into pornography as well. Someone should do a study on that. One also has to ask who many of these people are. What groups people are the most hostile to Jews? Could they also be trolls with their own agenda?
Here is one thing you can learn:
The Bush family gets rich and richer starting major wars. The Bushes, Clintons, Obola are all the same - run by the same people. All demonic scum.
1. Prescott Bush - WW2. He, Walker family (relatives), Henry Ford, Morgan, Edison (GE), Rockefellers, Rothschilds and others created and backed Hitler. The Nazis were really mega corporations and industrialists and banksters who helped rebuild Germany for yet another very profitable war. Also key people are Allan Dulles and his brothers. They were attorneys who wrote the Treaty of Versailles. Later - Allan Dulles is fired as CIA director by JFK.
2. Poppy Bush - Vietnam and Gulf War 1. He was there and very involved in Texas for the whacking of JFK. LBJ, oil boys, zios, Cubans, Mafia, Deep State, MIC and defense contractors especially the F-111 Crown/Krinsky family.
3. GW Bush -- Gulf War 2 and Afghanistan.
Wars, narcotics (Mena & Mexico), open borders, oil. Where they make their money. Reagan did not like them and did not trust them. They tried to "JFK" Reagan once then gave him a See Eye Aye prion for "alzheimers." The Reagan amnesty was poppy Bush.
A loose loose deal for everyone says Valjoux, too loose you lose Valjoux! be careful what you say?
So if ISIS now has the AA weapons to shoot down civilian aircraft at cruising altitude, why haven't they shot down military planes of the US, NATO and Russia? A better question; will they shoot any of those military planes in the future?
lol, I can almost guess the ZH headines before I get here.
I would have liked to have seen Montana.
Just have Mon stay in the tanning booth longer.
may want to hurry up as it may not be there much longer.
great movie btw think I will watch it later.
Well this certainly should help accelerate the death(s) of the remaining ISIS and American special forces by Iranian paramilitary and Russian air!
American special forces are traitorous scum and Id love to see them die.
So now an American airliner can be bought down by ISIS. Two could play at that game.
I call bullshit anyway.
War...it's what's for Chistmas..
FUCK YOU bernake,yellen and the white house monkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"It wasn't ours, we placed tracking devices on all our missiles after that 1980s Mujahideen missing Stingers drama"
Right?
How appropriate for isis to be flying a "black flag"
Langley has always had a puerile sense of humor. It's all of those "high IQs" in one room I guess.
I noticed a while ago that some of these ISIS flags are surely made from discarded US Army cargo parachutes. They're black as well, this latest generation of cargo-parachute, and GPS guided so we make sure the "goods" go to the right people.
I can't help wondering if amongst the 20 or so "military satellites" that we shoot up into the sky every year, one or two of them might be dedicated ONLY to this purpose.
A lot of new Air Force satellites have been launched apparently one today and one a few weeks ago.
http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/10/06/intel-gathering-spacecraft-launch-o...
The National Reconnaissance Office is the secretive government agency responsible for the country’s fleet of spy satellites. This launch is known as NROL-55.
Another one today.
http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2015/10/31/live-upd...
Note it is an Air Farce misison not NASA.
Yup. Where I live, I hear and see them go up. It's always been unnerving, especially in times like this when all of the tentacles seem to be working in unison.
"NASA" is just the brand they use for marketing toys and films to the kiddies. It is 100% MIC, as are all of the businesses in the towns surrounding NASA complexes.
<- I don't pay taxes to any of the states involved.
<- It's OK, my tax money pay for killing people on all sides, so it all cancels out. Right?
so, now we may say "Obama did it"? Just like the western media did with Putin in Dombass?
lets wait a bit more to see what really happens... to claim responsibility on the downing of russian plane is much easier that actually do it..
update: According to BBC, the captain of the aircraft requested an emergency landing at the airport of El Arish, but the ship crashed 50 kilometers from the Egyptian airfield.
If the Russians use a tactical nuclear weapon,you'll know why.
It would be pointless act if it were ISIS terrorist or their Israel/USA/Saudi backers since it would give Russia further 'blood' and credibility in the game, and an excuse to engage even more in Syria.
Not a very clever strategic action if it were a planned action to the enemies of Syria/Russia/Iran.
Clever ?
They are muslim.....
They are exactly that devious and sometimes clever, but no they are not as a group bright.
Ever heard of "poking the bear"?
They want Putin to retaliate. SO BAD.
Dear "ISIS et.al", you are SOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKED.
i wouldn't want to antagonize the russian bear
Putin get out of Syria now! We don't want to die because of gas piple line in Syria! Get out now! Don't kill us!
I can not record anyting with my iPhone at 10km high.
Should i buy a newer model ?
yes
Better don't travel on any Western airline until we know the real cause of this tragic crash.
I absolutely hate flying anymore. Crowds, tsa, long waits, delays, really crappy food ... glad I don't have to . In my previous work I flew 4/7 days and at first it was fun but it gets old real fast and ages you tremendously. Even most hotels these days stink, literally and figuratively. Poor service, sometimes smokey rooms, etc. Plus, every time you hit 30,000 feet it's like getting one chest x-ray of radiation ... so who needs it?
Video doesn't play.
At any rate, how is it possible to have taken a video of something at 31,000 ft?
War truly is hell. People on that plane had no dog in the fight. My thoughts and prayers to them and their friends and families.
I feel so bad for them. I normally don't feel it. This time I do.
The good ones .......... : 1
The bad ones ........... : 1
(........ fill in by choice : the Russians, Bashar al-Assad, The Superiors, Al-Qaida, the Zionists, IS, Iran, The West, the moderate rebels, Turkey, The EU, Merkel, Obama, ISIS, Iraq, the Dutch, Ukraine, The Kurds, the Chinese, Israel, Hezbollah, Saudi Arabia, Al-Nusra, the terrorists, the Fed, ISIL, the US-interests)
DEATH TO THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT!
Russia should now want to obliterate ISIS wherever they are. We will see how they react. Probably much tougher that the US
IF...it's proven that ISIS (U.S. backed) shot this airliner down with a U.S. made missle - this will NOT end well for anyone.
Israel is on the scene to help, before anyone else, so think again. They helped the Egyptians locate the site in the first place. They've already mopped up anything relevant and are already on the flight recorder data tampering, you can be sure of that.
Jew bankers killed 224 civilians.
Kill the real enemy Vlad.
US coalition has been bombing ISIS for a year or so and the only people this group terrorist want to kill besides Assad's forces are Russian and Iranian forces... No wonder why.
Russia may declare a real war against ISIS. Lets hope it is a nasty aggressive obliteration of ISIS.
If the pilot reported engine trouble could it be an exploding engine ?
Have to play back frame by frame if it is authentical.
If the bomb was placed correctly it may have seemed like an expoding engine (ala 777 Las Vegas), shrapnel leaves the cargo zone in the belly and impacts fuel lines, hydraulics and the engine proper. Chicken or egg
Where is China in all this? Arent they friends with russia? What are they waiting for? And why has Russia not put no fly zone in place or a naval blockade? Seems to me RU and CN could tag team the zios easily in the ME
well the Russians & Chinese always bend over backwards to be diplomatic. Have you noticed how Putin & Lavrov nearly always refer to Washington & their jackals as "partners"? They desperately want a peaceful solution in Syria just like Putin made every effort to get the EU, US & Russia to hammer out a deal over Ukraine. I think that Russia sending air power & advisors to Syria is basically Putin saying he cant reason with these globalist/neocon maniacs anymore. It's the first real sign that the gloves are coming off. A total Russian-enforced NFZ over Syria may well be the next step. The Russians however will always leave the diplomatic door open in the (admittedly unlikely) event that sane persons take control in the West.
"Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pidgeon. He knocks over the pieces, shits on the board and then struts around declaring victory"
Vlad Putin
Where is China in all of this?
China is playing the long game. Chinese are not stupid people.
Russia built up their military while Neocon ME wars diverted attention from Russia. Russia had rusted out junk, so MIC paid Russia little attention, especially after Georgian war.
China can be an arsenal of democracy ....ooops, arsenal for Russia and Shia Cresent. Russia also has enourmous productive capacity. China is building up their military now in the same way that Russia did. They might need a little more time, but surely are accelerating with Russian expertise.
Barring some fundamental change, Oligarchial Banker led West has already lost this war. The West especially has no moral authority, and it will be hard to inculcate fighting desire into debt slave sheeple with another false flag. Even worse nightmare for the Western Illuminists, Eurasia will arise, despite WW1 and WW2 wars to prevent it.
It will be awhile before Chinese manpower/troops are put on the Ground. When that happens it will be overwhelming to the Western MIC. Western Illuminism is already in dissaray due to BRICs, and the various Russian counter moves.
Putin means it when he says the world will not be unipolar. Take him at his word. Eurasia will be groups of willing partners, as we are seeing now in Russian alliances, not some sort of monolithic power block.
The Rabid Kabbalah driven fevered imaginations of Illuminism stem from deep seated psychopathy, and get currency/power from their money control means.
100% site intel group bullshit.
was this the US funded branch of ISIS? were any US weapons or parts or logisitics used? is it time to label the United States a terrorist country.
Drudge just picked it up
maybe a few more sheep can put 2+2 together
SHEMITAH bitchezzz!
FWIW, the explosion seems to be in the aft fuselage rather than either of the engines, which would be where a heat-seeking missile would most likely hit.
Fake. Standard daylight background gradient found in most 3D animtion programs. Sprite voxel explosion gag. Apply gaussian blur. Crop for some reason to look like iphone aspect ratio. DONE.
Rita has been busy.
Certainly possible.
Just watched that video...I didn't actually see a rocket but at the very least there was a sizable bomb in the rear cargo area. If I was Vladimir Putin I'd be bringin' the heat! How could he be the most popular Russian leader of all time and ignore this? ...on the other hand, he's shown remarkable patience in the past and has never failed to capitalize in epoch fashion, now has he?!
Isis has this capability? to take down commercial aircraft?
Right, how does a gang and sand warriors know what plane is what at 35K feet, great point.
Attn: Russian Strategic Bomber Command -
ISIS HQ: Tel Aviv 32° N, 34.8° E / Wash. DC 38.9° N, 77.01° W
A bomber would never get that close, a submarine more likely.
Silly, they could launch it right out of Tiangong.
I would recommend the average American go look at the video of Hiroshima after WW2 just to get an idea what their own backyards will look like if they let their govt continue on its current path.
and read John Hersey's "Hiroshima"
if this is true DC would be wise to pull those 50 advisers out of Syria now, clear the airspace and get the hell out of the way.
nobody is going to want to be caught in the path of the Russian reaction.
the mother of all blow backs is nigh.
and we had all better pray there is no connection between this and Washington.
Yeh this is likely. An intense effort by Iran and Russia to accelerate the destruction of rebels and ISIS.....
And China freshly pissed at the USA could declare material support to the Russia effort in Syria.
Difficult to imagine anything which would legitimise more what the Russians are doing than this episode. So a real blowback for the backers of ISIS/ISIL if verified is on the way.
You want to end every war on the planet?
Turn Israel into a sea of glass and kill everyone who resides on the top floor of any company known as a bank in NYC.
Oil may go to $100 by next Friday. If it does you know Mossad did this.
Never let a good crisis caused by the Tribe go to waste.
Right. Because if Israel ceased to exist and your fantasy of exterminating every Jew on Earth came true, Muslims and Christians would then just peacefully coexist.
Muslims would suddenly become white christians. For more info, read "The frog prince".
I guess no one will be laffing at condom bombs again. heh
There was no missle in the video, it looked like the rear half of the aircraft just exploded. I could believe a device in the cargo hold. This is a very sad horrible tragedy for 224 innocent people. These muslim perpetrators need to be erased from the world. I suspect we will see a rapid escalation of efforts in Syria, but the problem is that these extremists are everywhere. This would be a opportune time for the US to reach out to Russia and extend a hand of solidarity to Putin and the Russian people so that we can fight this scurge together.
my God man, what flavor of kool aide are you drinking there?
Sizzurp - based on what info is available, please tell us two things - 1-which group did this, and 2- who trained and supported that group.
If the muslims are pawns, who are the real players? Remember, getting rid of the pawns does not stop the game.
Oh, please, please...let me guess...joooooos. It has to be.
Just waiting for this once great website to require one to pledge allegiance to the Aryan Nation before being alowed to proceed with vapid, inane utterances in their comment section.
Please, Tyler...PLEASE bring back the math captcha!!
We all know who has taken responsibility for this senseless barbaric act. It has been US policy to support moderate groups in Syria who wish to overthrow Assad. That policy is clearly misguided, but I think trying to say that because we supported some group in Syria, therefore the US is responsible for the downing of this aircraft in Egypt is crazy. Americans do not hate Russia. We may have disagreements with them from time to time, but the American people would never condone such an atrocity. Nobody I know has ill wishes towards the people of Russia. We have much more in common with Russia than these muslim barbarians. We should join together and work to stop these things for ever happening again.
>>>> ...but the American people would never condone such an atrocity. <<<<
Great majority simply do not care. Even if they found out that the US government did this, they would vote the same people back into office, as long as there was not repercussions effecting them directly.
That might not be condoning something directly, but it is a condonation via silent acceptance.
This is also the case for vast majority of people word wide, so people in other nations do not have any moral superiority in this regard.
And keep the 2ND Amendment intact.
Did you see the black flags in Hamburg? Europe is going to find itself overrun by IS terrorists. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/10/10/1300-police-in-hamburg-for-isis/
http://www.commdiginews.com/world-news/rioting-over-isis-reaches-hamburg...
Putin removed video :(
So it must be true - it was not downed bu ISIS it was tehnical issue - because Putin is always right!
Sure Putin removed it....he has nothing better to do than monitor social media, LOL. No wonder you Ukies lost Crimea and the Donbass.
Either your post is the worst example of sarcasm or you are dumber than a box of rocks.
No one in Russia, including Putin, has the power to remove a video from a foreign server. Especially if that server sits in the EU or USA.
Final solution
Whether or not the video is real or staged is currently unknown. - We will never know, Plus the YouTube account has been terminated.
Yes, Putin removed it. So go back to bed - there was no terror attack because of Putin actions in Syria. All is fine. It was planes technical issue. All is well - go back to bed now. No ISIS video to see here.
Hmm http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/mar/09/rand-paul...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K38_Igla Use in plot against Air Force One Edit
On August 12, 2003, as a result of a sting operation arranged as a result of cooperation between the American, British and Russian intelligence agencies, Hemant Lakhani, a British national, was intercepted attempting to bring what he had thought was an older-generation Igla into the USA. He is said to have intended the missile to be used in an attack on Air Force One, the American presidential plane, or on a commercial US airliner, and is understood to have planned to buy 50 more of these weapons.
After the Federalnaya Sluzhba Bezopasnosti (FSB) detected the dealer in Russia, he was approached by US undercover agents posing as terrorists wanting to shoot down a commercial plane. He was then provided with an inert Igla by undercover Russian agents, and arrested in Newark, New Jersey, when making the delivery to the undercover US agent. An Indian citizen residing in Malaysia, Moinuddeen Ahmed Hameed and an American Yehuda Abraham who allegedly provided money to buy the missile were also arrested.[31] Yehuda Abraham is President and CEO of Ambuy Gem Corp.[32][33][34] Lakhani was convicted by jury in April 2005, and was sentenced to 47 years in prison.[35]
Some CIA goon bombed a Cuban passenger plane about 40 years ago, killed a bunch of Guyanese along with a bunch of Cubans.
The Guyanese still want to know why the guy has immunity in the US.
"shit happens"
"Beware the Lamb"
So tragic. Did ZH present in the same way when malayesian flight was shot down by russian separatists in ukaraine? Oh, no, wait, it was, of course a "false flag" by usa.
Can't you guys here at ZH stop using civillian victims to propagate you propaganda??
well... the Dombass separatists never claim responsability on the MH17 downing, isn't? Opposite...
No. Civilians casualties are too good not to be used for propaganda. Better when they are children. Wont someone think of the children?
IMHO people only care about people they know. Following by people who are close to you, culturally, albeit in a lesser degree.
The caring continuum:
Care>Familiar children>Familiar women>Familiar men>Similar children>Similar women>Similar men>Others>Not care.
Whats your evidence that it was russian separatists and not Jewish oligarch Kolomoisky's boys? Apart that is from the failure of Ukraine to release black boxes, or the ATC tapes, or satellite imaging, or *anything* normally associated with determining the origins of a crash?
Trolling has gotten pretty thick around here in my absence. First they ignore you then they laugh at you then they fight you and then you win. Apparently zerohedge is passed the being ignored stage
Trolling has gotten pretty thick around here in my absence. First they ignore you then they laugh at you then they fight you and then you win. Apparently zerohedge is passed the being ignored stage
ghost, we heard u the first time.
What happened to the video? It's gone.
Yes, Putin removed it. So go back to bed - there was no terror attack because of Putin actions in Syria. All is fine. It was planes technical issue. All is well - go back to bed now. No ISIS video to see here.
Go take your crap to youtube, kid.
And...it's back.
does live leak have this? The censorship phags at screwtube took it down.
Russians are spreading themselve thin .... just like Hitler did ?