This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.

No Survivors After Russian Airplane With 224 On Board Crashes In Egypt's Sinai, ISIS Claims Responsibility

Tyler Durden's picture




 

Update:

* * *

With tensions already at deeply concerning levels between Russians and their various adversaries in the Middle East region, a few hours ago this Saturday morning, around 4:20am GMT to be precise, a Russian airliner carrying 224 in crew and passengers, including 138 women, 62 men and 17 children, crashed in Egypt's Sinai peninsula. Egyptian officials say there are no survivors from the crash. This is the worst Russian air accident in history.

The Airbus A321 shown below, also known as Kolavia Flight 7K9268, operated by Russian airline Kogalymavia under the brand name Metrojet, was flying from the Sinai Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh to St Petersburg in Russia when it went down in a desolate mountainous area of central Sinai soon after daybreak.

The aircraft took off at 5:51 a.m. Cairo time (0351 GMT) and disappeared from radar screens 23 minutes later, Egypt's Civil Aviation Ministry said in a statement. It was at an altitude of 31,000 feet (9,400 meters) when it vanished from radar screens. According to various flight tracking services the aircraft, having made an apparently smooth take off, lurched into a rapid descent shortly after approaching cruising altitude.

 

Airbus has confirmed the crash:

Airbus regrets to confirm that an A321-200 operated by Metrojet was involved in an accident shortly after 6:17 local time (04:17 GMT) over the Sinai Peninsula today. The aircraft was operating a scheduled service, Flight 7K-9268 from Sharm el Sheikh (Egypt) to St. Petersburg (Russia).

 

The concerns and sympathy of the Airbus employees go to all those affected by this tragic accident of Flight 7K-9268.

 

The aircraft involved in the accident, registered under EI-ETJ was MSN (Manufacturer Serial Number) 663, was produced in 1997 and since 2012 operated by Metrojet. The aircraft had accumulated some 56000 flight hours in nearly 21000 flights. It was powered by IAE-V2500 engines. At this time no further factual information is available.

 

In line with ICAO annex 13, an Airbus go-team of technical advisors stands-by ready to provide full technical assistance to French Investigation Agency – BEA – and to the Authorities in charge of the investigation.

 

The A321-200 is the largest member of the Airbus twin-engine A320 Family seating up to 240 passengers. The first A321 entered service in January 1994. By the end of September 2015, some 6500 A320 Family aircraft were in service with over 300 operators. To date, the entire fleet has accumulated some 168 million flight hours in some 92.5 million flights.

A loop of the flight's brief flight before crashing is shown below:

The aircraft was descending rapidly at about 6,000 (2,000 meters) feet per minute before the signal was lost to air traffic control.

A cabinet statement said Egyptian military planes had spotted wreckage of the plane in the Hassana area, south of Arish. The statement said: "Military planes have discovered the wreckage of the plane in a mountainous area and 45 ambulance have been directed to the site to evacuate dead and wounded."

People gather at the airline information desk at of Russian airline Kogalymaviaís desk.

The crash scene is a disaster.

"I now see a tragic scene," an Egyptian security officer at the scene told Reuters by telephone. "A lot of dead on the ground and many who died whilst strapped to their seats.

"The plane split into two, a small part on the tail end that burned and a larger part that crashed into a rock. We have extracted at least 100 bodies and the rest are still inside," the officer, who requested anonymity, said.

Emergency services and aviation specialists quickly began an inspection of the wreckage for any patterns of damage that could point to the cause. One of two flight recorders was quickly found, but wreckage was scattered over a wide area.

The security officer said 120 intact bodies had been found. Express adds that other bodies were also found strapped in to their seats after rescue teams searched the crash site.

The full roster of passengers on the doomed flight can be found here.

Since accidents at cruising altitude are one of the rarest categories of accidents (but also among the most deadly, accounting for 13 percent of fatal incidents), the immediate question on everyone's mind - was the plane shot down from the ground? So far there are no clue as to what caused the crash.  Sinai is the scene of an insurgency by militants close to Islamic State, who have killed hundreds of Egyptian soldiers and police and have also attacked Western targets in recent months.

Russia, an ally of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, launched air raids against opposition groups in Syria including Islamic State on Sept. 30.

Egyptian Prime Minister Sherif Ismail was heading to the crash site in the Hassana area 35 km (22 miles) south of the Sinai Mediterranean coastal city of Al Arish with several cabinet ministers on a private jet, the tourism ministry said.

Russian television showed film of anxious relatives and friends waiting for information at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo airport. Russian President Vladimir Putin declared a day of national mourning for Sunday.

The Airbus A321 has a solid safety record. It is a 185-seat medium-haul jet in service since 1994, with over 1,100 in operation worldwide and a good safety record. It is a highly automated aircraft relying on computers to help pilots stay within safe flying limits.

Saturday's crash is the second fatal accident involving this variant of the A320 jetliner family, according to data from the Flight Safety Foundation. Airbus said it had no independent information on the crash and declined to comment on the aircraft involved.

If any form of terrorist activity is confirmed, this will surely escalate the war in the region which yesterday bypassed mere proxy status, and will now see both Russian and US soldiers fighting on the opposite sides of the battlefield, this will merely push the world that much closer to a unrestrained conflict.

For now the hope is that this was purely a technical issue: the Russian RIA news agency, citing sources at Sharm el-Sheikh, said: "The pilot contacted the dispatcher and reported technical problems, asking for a change of the route and a landing at Cairo airport, after which communication was broken."

According to the airline, the cause of the tragic accident was not human error.

According to RT, Metrojet had a fatal incident in 2011, when one of its planes caught fire on a runway in Surgut Airport in Russia’s Urals. Three people died and 40 were injured as the plane burned out in just 10 minutes.

The last large-scale Russian airline incident happened in November 2013, when Tatarstan Airlines Flight 363 crashed at Kazan International Airport while attempting to land. Fifty people died in the incident.

The UK's David Cameron has expressed his condolences.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has expressed his deepest condolences to the families of victims of the crashed airliner.  Putin also ordered government ministries to offer immediate assistance to relatives of those killed and an investigation into the causes of the crash.

The president declared a national day of mourning to take place on Sunday, November 1.

 

- advertisements -

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:41 | 6733709 agent default
agent default's picture

The US is about to find out that two can play the downed airliner game. 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:42 | 6733711 jefferson32
jefferson32's picture

Until proven otherwise one must assume the plane was downed by imperial interests (US neocons/luciferians, Israel, ISIS, etc.). The date (satanic holiday), and context (US/Russian standoff in Syria) tend to suggest it. I would not be surprised to learn some key Russian individuals were on board.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:49 | 6733716 Latina Lover
Latina Lover's picture

Perhaps ISIS was practising with one of their new ManPads?  Bet the Russians investigate and release info within the next 2 weeks, unlike MH17 where the Dutch and English after 16 months,  STILL have not released black box recordings, or Air Traffic Control tapes.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:50 | 6733722 Motasaurus
Motasaurus's picture

Russia blame Saudi Arabia in 3.. 2... 1...

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:55 | 6733727 Latina Lover
Latina Lover's picture

Russia is not the USSA, that condemns without evidence to support false flags.  Remember how within 12 hours, the USSA pressitutes were squealing like stuck pigs, that Putin did IT. 16 months later, and no concrete proof, just couch potatoe propaganda from bellingcrap.

The Russian media have some independence, unlike the 6 US corporations that control more than 95% of all TV, Radio and Print in Amerika.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:01 | 6733748 turtle
turtle's picture

oh shit...

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:18 | 6733786 Latina Lover
Latina Lover's picture

Exactly, especially on Hallowe'en, a high holy day for invoking satanic forces. Sacrifice, anyone?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:23 | 6733797 Stainless Steel Rat
Stainless Steel Rat's picture

Tragic.  Notice how even Hillary puts the word "ELECTABLE" in quotes in her emails?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:31 | 6733815 cheka
cheka's picture

fall was very steep, no?  so the wings were gone?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:53 | 6733869 Publicus
Publicus's picture

Avoid flying airlines until after World War 3 is over.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:07 | 6733911 Arthor Bearing
Arthor Bearing's picture

You all are fucking ridiculous. Sometimes accidents happen. Who stands to benefit from this plane going down?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:30 | 6733964 Countrybunkererd
Countrybunkererd's picture

You have a very limited one dimensional line of thinking.  Were there CIA on board?  What about an agent from the re-formed KGB?  How about Israel?  Egypt itself?  What about those that just want to kill those that don't have the same religion, those we hear about all the time cutting off heads?

And of course, the good ole USSA's potential involvement for...increased production and profits, or the many other reasons.  Then of course Russians will be very pissed giving MORE support to their war.

Good Lord, pull your head out of your hindside.  Agents, Double Agents, and Double Double agents have been around for a LONG time now, of course if you only watch the 6 news outlets of the USSA, you don't even know what the CIA does...or that the FBI is international...

WOW, sorry to unload, but seriously, you need to wake up to reality and not the Disney fairytale world we were "told" we would have as adults if we went to colludge, bought the house and german saloon car, chemically treated the lawn for the green effects, and so on.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:38 | 6734018 MalteseFalcon
MalteseFalcon's picture

"One of two flight recorders was quickly found"

The Russians will have the evidence and the truth very quickly. 

The perpetrator could have crashed the plane over contentious territory, but did not.

Hmmmm.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:39 | 6734031 L Bean
L Bean's picture

Who has them now, the IDF branch of the "Egyptian" military?

Good luck Putin, you're going to need it for this one.

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:53 | 6734066 strannick
strannick's picture

America, and by that we mean neocons, bankers, spooks, is SO fucking evil.

They would find following Christ so much more satisfying than Satan. But how do you reach them?

Chuck Colson could tell us...

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:56 | 6734105 jaap
jaap's picture

Did senior specialist BellingCUNT already give his analyses?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 11:08 | 6734147 L Bean
L Bean's picture

He's probably polishing some sort of turd, as we speak.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 13:54 | 6734731 WordSmith2013
WordSmith2013's picture

WHO EXACTLY WAS ON BOARD THAT RUSSIAN AIRLINER & WHAT WAS THER MISSION?

Axis.http://themillenniumreport.com/2015/10/russian-airliner-takedown-over-si...

"The intensifying Russian-Egyptian collaboration looms VERY large over the Mideast Geopolictical Chessboard for the Zio-Anglo-American"

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 14:39 | 6734830 dark pools of soros
dark pools of soros's picture

do the PM's and cabinet members always take a private jet to the scene of a crash?  I think you are right in this one..  control of information will be telling here

 

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:41 | 6734036 Countrybunkererd
Countrybunkererd's picture

Time will tell... i am concerned about the Lusitania effect mentioned below.  It may be a legitimate accident, but we have a 95+ chance it was something else.  Add in the Russian "Kinetic Action" and that goes well into 99+ percent in my opinion.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:42 | 6734042 NuckingFuts
NuckingFuts's picture

Also, what if it just broke and fell from the sky? It does happen.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 17:49 | 6735354 dark pools of soros
dark pools of soros's picture

yeah those wafer wood dollar store planes always fall apart

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:32 | 6733992 Countrybunkererd
Countrybunkererd's picture

Accidents do happen, but once you are at cruise altitude, it is VERY rare.  Catastrophic, but VERY rare.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:37 | 6734016 TahoeBilly2012
TahoeBilly2012's picture

That's why this stinks, it's not some takeoff malfunction.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 11:23 | 6734235 Urban Redneck
Urban Redneck's picture

But neither the Americans, nor any of their puppet states, will be conducting the investigation.  And since the thousands of MANPADS floating around MENA can't reach 30,000ft, the possibilities for deliberate action while maintaining plausible deniability are relatively slim.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 11:52 | 6734343 lakecity55
lakecity55's picture

Not out of range for an Israeli Talmud A-A missile....

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 17:52 | 6735357 dark pools of soros
dark pools of soros's picture

Or Allah's backhand

 

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 19:16 | 6735592 Mentaliusanything
Mentaliusanything's picture

Wait for the film, it always follows when hands are dirty

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 19:40 | 6735636 gezley
gezley's picture

Israel is pissed off Russian intervention in Syria has just put the kibosh on their Greater Israel project. It's not about who benefits, but rather about revenge. Bitter, sick revenge.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:08 | 6733917 SoilMyselfRotten
SoilMyselfRotten's picture

We'll all be on foot then

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:12 | 6733926 L Bean
L Bean's picture

Avoid flightpaths in the vicinity of ISRAEL and you'll be fine.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 11:04 | 6734136 Benjamin123
Benjamin123's picture

20.000 miles radius no fly zone?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 20:27 | 6735755 Tarshatha
Tarshatha's picture

the Mossad is very mobile, they kill where ever they feel.

And Goyim are so worthless, does anyone really care?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:27 | 6733975 Ignatius
Ignatius's picture

Avoid flying as long as they must molest you to get onboard.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 11:56 | 6734356 lakecity55
lakecity55's picture

Hear! Hear!

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:32 | 6733820 chumbawamba
chumbawamba's picture

It's been said that history doesn't necessarily repeat, but it rhymes.

What rhymes with "Downing a Russian airliner"?  Perhaps "Sinking of the Lusitania"?

Not perfect, but then I didn't consult my thesaurus.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:43 | 6734020 Countrybunkererd
Countrybunkererd's picture

What's History?  Can you speed up my data plan so i can get higher res pics of my friend's new racing tires, or the shoes the bought while waiting for them to be put on his 10 year old "slammed" honda?  I will camp out for a little box of circuits, but i can care less about this Lucytanna thing... from the people of the USSA.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:58 | 6733890 BarkingCat
BarkingCat's picture

Halloween pre-dates that sand dwelling goat fucker bullshit called christianity.

It is an actual native holiday of some of the areas in Europe and thus caucasians.

Christianity is a the first mythological parasite of Europe. Judaism is the second and now with islam comes the third.

A complete set of shit, spawn from the same unwashed crusted asshole.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:07 | 6733908 Anonymous User
Anonymous User's picture

Actually Halloween is about this, or this is what became:

http://www.thepornster.com/video/473/halloween-blowjob-from-gf

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 19:37 | 6735626 gezley
gezley's picture

You must be English. They all speak that way about religion over there. A real diabolical hatred of God. Problem is, if the supernatural doesn't exist, then all of the crimes committed in the name of religion are no more than evolution running its course, for if there is no supernatural, and the natural is all there is, then the supernatural cannot be blamed for these crimes which so upset you. Unless, of course, you are insane, and want to continue blaming something that doesn't exist.

 

It makes no sense whatsoever to nurture an irrational hatred of religion if you deny the existence of the supernatural. No sense at all. It's like blaming nature for producing lions which kill antelopes. To my mind it's a clear sign of a diseased mind, a mind that rejects something yet continues to blame that very something for all the world's ills.

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:19 | 6733789 aint no fortuna...
aint no fortunate son's picture

I wonder what Barry will say after he gets off the 18th green

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:27 | 6733804 Philo Beddoe
Philo Beddoe's picture

Hey, anybody else notice that my caddy has a nice ass. 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:07 | 6733910 oddjob
oddjob's picture

Lets's do an extra hole.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 11:57 | 6734365 lakecity55
lakecity55's picture

"Ive some good dope. Let's head to the 19th hole!"

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:10 | 6733922 Berspankme
Berspankme's picture

"Reggie wash my balls"

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:07 | 6733757 Freddie
Freddie's picture

I am so sick of seeing innocent men, women and children murdered by the ZWO empire.  Soros, his politician puppets and the rest need to start answering for this. 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:38 | 6734022 TahoeBilly2012
TahoeBilly2012's picture

Someone needs to make a catchers mitt out of Soro's face. 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 17:56 | 6735371 dark pools of soros
dark pools of soros's picture

answering for this?   maybe Mel Brooks can make a movie about them answering for this..

 

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:15 | 6733853 Renfield
Renfield's picture

<<Russia is not the USSA, that condemns without evidence to support false flags.  Remember how within 12 hours, the USSA pressitutes were squealing like stuck pigs, that Putin did IT. 16 months later, and no concrete proof, just couch potatoe propaganda from bellingcrap.>>

Thoughts and prayers for the bereaved friends and family of the Russian accident victims. I hope we will all take a moment to be grateful for the gift of life, and to give sympathy to the victims of this tragedy. I cannot imagine what the bereaved must be going through today. I hope death was quick for the victims, and they did not experience very much fear or pain before they died.

Russia, the world's sympathy is with you.

Latina Lover, you are correct to withhold judgement on this. I admit that my first thought, after the horrified reaction, was that the ZWO is behind this. But I am now trying to follow Putin's example. I cannot blame most here for thinking that way, b/c the Zionists do have form and plenty of it. After so many false flags, that was my conditioned response too. But you are right, to jump to conclusions without evidence is premature. The only thing we can be sure of at this point is that the Russians who have lost their lives and loved ones deserve our sympathy. Thanks for your sanity on this thread.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:50 | 6734068 Countrybunkererd
Countrybunkererd's picture

Thank You!  I am grateful for life every time i wake up and remain mindful of how wonderful but fragile it is.  I thank God for the gift of time on earth (seriously, do you think your ancestors grew a thumb intentionally some 100 million years ago?  Look at the news and see how stupid mandkind really is-  Spend an hour in the deep woods and consider the impossibility of it being chance, including where earth is related to the sun, the balance of oxygen, CO2, and all that, etc.).

I have become so jaded i couldn't see that it might NOT be planned in some way.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 20:38 | 6735776 Tarshatha
Tarshatha's picture

Renfield, non judgmental patience is the way to go, but if you have money to bet and sucker to take it, you know who is ultimately behind this.

Israel and all Jews world wide that support and condone this homicidal BS.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:56 | 6734100 robertsgt40
robertsgt40's picture

Software glitch?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:56 | 6733736 fleur de lis
fleur de lis's picture

The plane "disappeared" from radar? Nothing disappears. Not a plane, not a mosquito. Was there a radar malfunction?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:58 | 6733744 swmnguy
swmnguy's picture

When a plane gets low enough, yes, it will disappear from the long-range radar.  It's the curvature of the Earth that does it.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:08 | 6733758 fleur de lis
fleur de lis's picture

That Malaysian plane "disappeared" from radar, never to be seen again, and the other one strayed directly into a war zone, where was the radar to warn them? Now this one with a radar issue. The word "disappear" should not be used the way it has in the past.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:35 | 6733823 trulz4lulz
trulz4lulz's picture

Radar reflects data to its station off of a large stable surface. If a plane explodes the pieces arent large enough or stable enough to reflect the ping. Thus it disappears.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:55 | 6733879 xavi1951
xavi1951's picture

WRONG!  It's called Chaff and it does show up on radar.  But the plane was in two peices not hundreds.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 13:18 | 6734633 Transformer
Transformer's picture

The radar reflection technique is old technology, which still can be used.  Typically, with non military aircraft a device on the aircraft called a transponder  is triggered each time it is swept with the radar.  The transponder instantly radios back altitude information.  The time of response tells the radar station it's angle and distance away from the station.

Even small private planes use this system.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:02 | 6733895 fleur de lis
fleur de lis's picture

Point well taken that there are gaps in transmission, but after the Malaysian jet which was explained away by "disappearance" never to be seen again, and the other that flew into a known conflict area, and now this one, maybe the technology needs to be looked at again. Whatever the case, it is a terrible tragedy for all involved at every level.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 11:10 | 6734163 Thorny Xi
Thorny Xi's picture

Civilian radar uses both skin paint and transponder returns but the controllers don't see the skin paint reflection, just the transponder data. Cockpit power loss kills the transponder - the plane "disappears".

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 18:02 | 6735392 dark pools of soros
dark pools of soros's picture

I dunno.. I saw Lost and strange things can happen.   What year is it now?

 

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:39 | 6733824 rwe2late
rwe2late's picture

perhaps

"left" or "exited from" or "lost from"

radar

"scope" or "range" or "sight"

? ?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:21 | 6733957 fleur de lis
fleur de lis's picture

Like everything else, language evolves to accommodate changing times. It stands to reason that technical terms should do the same. There needs to be another term for the Malaysian plane that met such a dreadful end. "Disappear" will not do anymore. We owe at least that much to the crews, passengers, and the distraught families.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 18:03 | 6735397 dark pools of soros
dark pools of soros's picture

ask Corzine

 

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:52 | 6733870 swmnguy
swmnguy's picture

"fleur": Yes, what you're saying makes sense to me now.  I note that we're hearing a helluva lot more information about this crash already than we ever have about the Malaysian planes.  Same as the German flight crash-landed in the mountains.  It's very interesting which details we do and do not get to hear about.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:22 | 6733923 fleur de lis
fleur de lis's picture

And thank you for clarifying how radar works. I don't believe the news beyond the basics so I appreciate the expertise on this blog.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:31 | 6733812 nscholten
nscholten's picture

I thought the earth was flat.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:38 | 6733832 rwe2late
rwe2late's picture

 It is in many places,

just not all the way around.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:53 | 6734083 Countrybunkererd
Countrybunkererd's picture

WAIT!!!

It is flat if you were educated in the USA.  And we Murican's say F.U. to anyone who tells us otherwise... weez be accepshunnel.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:56 | 6734102 Countrybunkererd
Countrybunkererd's picture

Oh, and God Bless the USA.  Because no other countries deserve it...

Wow are we just SOOOO accepshunnel...AND BLESSED!  We wear ball caps, tennis shoes, a sport coat with a t-shirt to the football games because we can.  We look like complete idiots to the rest of the world, but hey, they don't matter cause we can bomb them if we want.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:18 | 6733951 piratepiet2
piratepiet2's picture

interesting, thx

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:01 | 6734371 lakecity55
lakecity55's picture

Air Control, this is Zion two-four. Looks like an ISIS aircraft disguised as a Russian Commercial Airliner.

Roger, two-four. Fire at will.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:51 | 6733718 Latina Lover
Latina Lover's picture

If terrorists did shoot down the Russian passenger jet, this will play directly into Putin's game plan to exterminate ISIS.  It feels like ISIS and her USSA stooge handlers are really to feel the blunt end of the Russian hammer.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:12 | 6733773 Oldwood
Oldwood's picture

Altitude detonated device. Lost signal just as it reached cruising altitude? coincidence? Most shoot downs are at lower altitudes.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:31 | 6733814 Doubleguns
Doubleguns's picture

Yep thats what I was thinking. Bomb in a suitcase on a flight from a terrorist love zone shortly after the Russians begin full scale attacks on ISIS. 

 

Surely this is an accident! /s

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:58 | 6733866 Vincent.Vega
Vincent.Vega's picture

This tragedy is an example of the Jewish war on Terra/goyim nations. As usual, that would be Mossad/MI-6/CIA with their Jewish operatives.

 

 

 

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:04 | 6734384 lakecity55
lakecity55's picture

Would have to be altitude deviice; Daesh has nothing with that range, unless the Zionists are giving them something. Better is the Zionists downed the aircraft, or  Alciaduh.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:48 | 6733719 SWRichmond
SWRichmond's picture

It's a false-flag-a-palooza.  When is a black swan not a black swan?  When some murderous government unleashes its sociopathic kill squads to try to start WWIII and cow civilians populations into acquiescence.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:33 | 6733998 Max Cynical
Max Cynical's picture

13:39 GMT

According to Egypt's security forces, as cited by Reuters, a technical fault was to blame for the crash.

Search and rescue teams are finding bodies in a radius of up to 5km (3.1 miles) from the crash site. Approximately 150, some burnt, have been pulled out of the wreckage so far.

The sources say the aircraft took almost a vertical trajectory as it plummeted down. Large parts of the fuselage burned in the process.

https://www.rt.com/news/320225-plane-crash-russian-egypt/

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 11:15 | 6734188 snowflake
snowflake's picture

Time will tell, but this is looking like a possible set up for someone...First, US puts troops on the ground, next day Russia's plane is downed and ISIS claims responsibility.   To the general public it would make sense for Russia to react strongly to ISIS and "possibly" go too far for US and allies.  This would give US the moral authority to go into Syria with anything and everything.   But what if an "incident" happens and it really was not Russia, but the creator of a "false flag".   Putin will have a hard time convincing the public that he is not responsible. 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 18:12 | 6735427 dark pools of soros
dark pools of soros's picture

He can just blurt out that it's the lying murderous Mossad snakes that need to be rooted from their evil and burned by the red fires of Russian retribution

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 14:28 | 6734806 lakecity55
lakecity55's picture

STAY AWAY from US air carriers until one goes down mysteriously.

Better yet, just stay away.

ISIS (Israelis Secret Intelligence Service) will take out an American carrier just as well.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:46 | 6733714 mcbond
mcbond's picture

Attack?

strange behaveiour before crash

Latest:

http://tersee.com/#!q=plane&t=text

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:16 | 6733739 Takeaction2
Takeaction2's picture

I tell ya...these Russians, you have to be very very careful.  They have set this entire staged plane crash up.  Plane wreckage and bodies?  Really?  Are you kidding me?  That is not possible....when planes crash into the ground or skid on grass we have what is called "Titanium Vaporization Theory".  This is a phenomenom that was proven twice  on 9/11 when the plane crashed in Shanksville, Pa out in the field and the plane that hit the Pentagon.  If you look at this photo, you will clearly see that plane crashes of this nature do not leave a debris field.

 http://themillenniumreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/51720971.jpg

These Russian liars................................Oh wait...

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:24 | 6733799 DelusionalGrandeur
DelusionalGrandeur's picture

Either you forgot the sarc tag or you're woefully inept at critical thinking. 12 tons of titanium and steel do not vaporize into thin air. You and everyone who up voted you need their meds checked.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:32 | 6733818 Renfield
Renfield's picture

Sarcasm. "Oh wait" is the latest sarc tag.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:42 | 6733844 rwe2late
rwe2late's picture

but, but, but

what about the plane that vaporized into the Pentagon?

... oh wait

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 11:03 | 6734130 Countrybunkererd
Countrybunkererd's picture

What about the law requiring US citizenship for holding the office of the presidency...Oh wait.

What about the ability of printing 20 shiny platinum trillion dollar coins to pay the debt...Oh wait.

What about how stupid it would be to go out spending 100 million dollars a day to blow up 3 20 year old toyotas, 5 AK47's, and a tent with 10 days of food in it...Oh wait.

The UNITED States of America...Oh wait!!!

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:07 | 6733909 BarkingCat
BarkingCat's picture

wow, you are dense.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:14 | 6733931 Takeaction2
Takeaction2's picture

Sir...did you really just post that comment....?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:25 | 6733969 duck dodgers
duck dodgers's picture

You're really slow arent you?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:55 | 6734094 Rusty Shorts
Rusty Shorts's picture

Obviously delusional

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 11:15 | 6734186 spieslikeus
spieslikeus's picture

Dude.....really?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 20:45 | 6735794 Tarshatha
Tarshatha's picture

"You and everyone who up voted you need their meds checked."

Youre very astute... oh wait.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:06 | 6733907 BarkingCat
BarkingCat's picture

Looks like some people do not comprehend scepticism that is heavily laced with sarcasm..

 

... or they read your first line and hit the red arrow....because you know,  no impulse control

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:37 | 6734013 L Bean
L Bean's picture

Sadly, I can see CNN running with this theory, and even being cited by "unnamed officials" for their insight.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 11:08 | 6734152 Countrybunkererd
Countrybunkererd's picture

If you lay enough cash on the table you can get any expert to say anything...

I'll take 100 grand for a theory on 9-11...what is it you want proven?  Thermite can't what?  Building 7 what?  You want fuel to be able to burn how hot?  Steel can melt in what conditions?  DONE!  Give me two weeks, i need another 800 grand though cause my credibility in the engineering field is over.

WAIT!! I am so confused.  Someone tell me what and how to think... i just want my pics to be high res on my phone and unlimited data plans.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:18 | 6733950 post turtle saver
post turtle saver's picture

our most sincere condolences for the family and friends of those on Flight 7K9268... we sometimes forget here in Fight Club that we're talking about people... let's try and keep things civil in their honor...

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:31 | 6733986 hangemhigh77
hangemhigh77's picture

CIA is written all over this.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:42 | 6734044 Blankone
Blankone's picture

Re: Agent - "The US is about to find out that two can play the downed airliner game. "

Ok, when?  And not just the US but Israel.  Even Putin is afraid, from what I can see in the news, to call out Israel.

China has obviously been covertly bombed multiple times recently and does nothing.  Ships ignore their territorial claims and warning - and nothing.

Putin may find evidence it was sabatoged.  Then he will make noise, and that is all.  Why?  Because it is US/Israel and he has not shown any willingness to confront with force.  Is there a no fly zone for the US/NATO in Syria?  No.  This timidity resulted in the announcement that the US will put troops on the ground. 

Putin showed promise when he began air opperations in Syria.  But he was timid and did not declare a no fly zone and actually take control.  Now US troops take the east and north east of Syria.  Putin may just get the west coast and fight to keep back the insurgents now being sheilded by the US, forever.

Only violence is going to work, unless he plans to try to survive until the dollar collapses (which will be far in the future I think).

But also - WHO was on that plane.  Anyone Russian govt related of significance?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 16:11 | 6735009 valjoux7750
valjoux7750's picture

Very good analgy. answers my question earlier, why there was not a no fly zone and/or naval blockade already?  just a random thought.. I bet mcains head is about to explode.   and yea putin is scared, who wouldnt be? though they are not what theyused to be with all the homos and stuff. they.. their weapons, will kick your ass. and if they should loose your gonna sustain serious catialty yourself. Hard to have a good stratagy against a psycopath who wants something. Hes just being carefull.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 18:08 | 6735412 Laowei Gweilo
Laowei Gweilo's picture

actually the west already knew that after the Russians shot down a passenger jet over Ukraine

 

now it's the Russians turn to learn that 2 can play that game

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:46 | 6733710 jefferson32
jefferson32's picture

Putin suspects foul play. He just announced they are sending "rescue teams" immediately. They will be armed, and could not have received Egyptian authorisation so quickly.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:50 | 6733724 juicy_bananas
juicy_bananas's picture

Jewish illuminati blood sacrifice on Halloween.  Jewish holy day is  Saturday = Saturn = Satan.

God bless and protect Russia and Putin.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:55 | 6733734 yomutti
yomutti's picture

Time to get off the internet. Your mom needs to use the basement to do laundry.

Don't worry, you can play in your room until she's done. And then she'll have some nice warm soup for you.

 

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:57 | 6733740 swmnguy
swmnguy's picture

You demonstrate the broken-clock principle with this post.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:16 | 6733783 Latina Lover
Latina Lover's picture

It is the afternoon in Kiev so Yomutti just finished picking potatoes. He is now working the Ukie afternoon troll shift.   2 years from now, he will be cleaning toilets in Moscow, a loyal russian to the bone.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:39 | 6733834 Reggie Dunlop
Reggie Dunlop's picture

Just like you, right?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:09 | 6733918 Anonymous User
Anonymous User's picture

This is what yomutti does on Halloween, after face painting:

http://www.thepornster.com/video/473/halloween-blowjob-from-gf

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 20:55 | 6735816 Tarshatha
Tarshatha's picture

Yomutti, silly troll, nobody is buying your childish ah hominin bs anymore, at least not here.
Jews have been kicked out of 109 countries since 250AD, and the WORLD is starting wise up AGAIN to their murderous psychopathic genetics.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:17 | 6733781 Benjamin123
Benjamin123's picture

Theres too many holy days and holy landmarks. I lost count. There should be a limit, say 7 or 13, to the number of holy entities one should bow to. If they decree a new one, another holy something loses its status.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 11:01 | 6734125 Pareto
Pareto's picture

+100 for If they decree a new one, another holy something loses its status.  he he hee

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 15:08 | 6734894 Son of Loki
Son of Loki's picture

Pleeeze keep Holy Kwanza Day or you'll really pizz Barry and Reggie off.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:44 | 6733846 nosam
nosam's picture

Not only the date but also the location has spiritual significance. Coincidence?

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:12 | 6733928 BarkingCat
BarkingCat's picture

you are a fucking bloody idiot. Saturn is a name of an ancient Roman god.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 11:03 | 6734133 Rusty Shorts
Rusty Shorts's picture
ALL RELIGIONS WORSHIP SATURN

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84zTtpGAMok

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 23:12 | 6736101 dark pools of soros
dark pools of soros's picture

that is because it is lord of the rings

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:51 | 6733725 NubianSundance
NubianSundance's picture

The Airbus 300 series has a pretty good safety record, only one fatal incident in the last twenty years. I suspect foul play. There will be consequences.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:37 | 6733830 Handful of Dust
Handful of Dust's picture

I suspect the MIC will do anything to lure Russia into an all-out war.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:42 | 6734041 Fractal Parasite
Fractal Parasite's picture

Remember that Washington is as much at war against EUROPE as against Russia and China.

Discrediting Europe's largest aircraft manufacturer should not be ruled out as a motive.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 00:27 | 6735065 valjoux7750
valjoux7750's picture

i was with ya until   "Discrediting Europe's largest aircraft manufacturer should not be ruled out as a motive." 

Seems kinda childish   "I got it,  lets blow up a russian  airliner and kill two birds with one stone, piss off RU and show the world how bad airbus planes are"  brilliant...!

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:53 | 6733729 websitefound
websitefound's picture

"The plane split into two, a small part on the tail end that burned and a larger part that crashed into a rock."  

 

Sounds like bomb in the cargo hold to me, or someone ignored the no-aerosol can rule.  Too high up for any militia type ground weapon, most SAM would struggle to get that high.  

 

Wreckage over large area also suggests mid air explosion.  Poor souls. Feel for the families but it looks politically motivated to me :-(

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:53 | 6733731 MasterOfTheMult...
MasterOfTheMultiverse's picture

It was a Ukrainian BUK-missile...

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:56 | 6733738 Son of Captain Nemo
Son of Captain Nemo's picture

With the Dutch Government conducting the investigation a year later!

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:55 | 6733735 swmnguy
swmnguy's picture

Already more information on the flight records and air-traffic control than we've seen in 16 months from either MH-17 or MH-370.

Curious.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:57 | 6733741 yomutti
yomutti's picture

Damn, they didn't even have time for the beverage service.

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:00 | 6733747 swmnguy
swmnguy's picture

Ah, now you're back to your old self.  Clearly the moment that your broken clock was correct has passed.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 08:58 | 6733743 Lumberjack
Lumberjack's picture

From Sputnik...

 

Initial reports about the fate of the airliner were conflicting, with the head of Egypt's central air traffic accident authority saying the plane was safe and heading for Turkey.

A team of Russian investigators is already en route to Egypt to determine whether any negligence or failures to observe proper procedures took place before takeoff, according to the Emergencies Ministry.

Five of the ministry aircraft - three Il-76, Be-200 and An-148 - are about to depart to Egypt to deal with the aftermath of the crash, according to a ministry official.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151031/1029377194/russian-airliner-egypt-contact-lost.html#ixzz3q9M4CTCT

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:19 | 6733788 Lumberjack
Lumberjack's picture

Thus far, all Russian media reports have not assigned blame for the cause. Good on them. If, however, it is learned that there was foul play....

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:53 | 6733867 Lumberjack
Lumberjack's picture

Updates:

 

https://www.rt.com/news/320225-plane-crash-russian-egypt/

 

  • 31 October 2015

    13:39 GMT

    According to Egypt's security forces, as cited by Reuters, a technical fault was to blame for the crash.

    Search and rescue teams are finding bodies in a radius of up to 5km (3.1 miles) from the crash site. Approximately 150, some burnt, have been pulled out of the wreckage so far.

    The sources say the aircraft took almost a vertical trajectory as it plummeted down. Large parts of the fuselage burned in the process.

  • 13:34 GMT

    Police are currently at Kolavia's headquarters, collecting the necessary documentation to proceed with the investigation.

  • 13:16 GMT

    Kolavia believes human error was not behind the Saturday crash, according to RIA Novosti. The plane had been fully serviced and the pilot was an experienced one, with 12,000 hours under his belt.

  • 13:02 GMT

    Airbus will offer any and all technical assistance to investigators and aviation authorities, it said in a statement.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:05 | 6733904 Lumberjack
Lumberjack's picture

 

Moscow warns against using incorrect information about situation with Russian plane

http://tass.ru/en/politics/833108

 

MOSCOW, October 31. /TASS/. Russian Foreign Ministry has warned against using incorrect information about the situation with the Russian passenger jet, official spokesperson Maria Zakharova told Rossiya 24 TV channel on Saturday.

"As soon as we can provide verified information, we will do it via the Embassy in Egypt or [Foreign Ministry’s] department of information and media," Zakharova said.

Zakahrova earlier wrote on her Facebook page that the Russian Embassy in Egypt is working on clarifying the situation with the Russian plane belonging to Kogalymavia air company.

"The staff of the Russian Embassy in Egypt are clarifying the situation around Russia’s Kogalymavia plane. As soon as verified information is received, it will reported to the media," she wrote.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:52 | 6734078 phaedrus1952
phaedrus1952's picture

If bodies were found miles away, the plane must have broken up mid air.

If the plane had 'technical difficulties' due to a small, altitude- triggered explosive device detonating in the rear - causing the described burn evidence - the plane would plummet down, as is apparently what happened.

Things have just accelerated greatly, folks, and the consequences are apt to be swift, severe, and jarring on a global scale.

 

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:20 | 6733955 Crtrvlt
Crtrvlt's picture

Maybe not

But everyone here hypocritically has

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:57 | 6734110 Pareto
Pareto's picture

+1 however, it is learned that there was foul play....

 

yes.  If such is learned.  There will be no harnassing of the Russian people's (and Putin's) rage.  It would be at that moment that you'd wish you were on another planet especially if you were a resident of the country whose wing nuts were responsible.  Fuck.  Terrible thing for the families - which is really all that's important here - that they are able to find answers and peace.  God bless.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:23 | 6733798 trulz4lulz
trulz4lulz's picture

And what happens if one of those jets "malfunction"? I got a real bad feeling about this. Murikistanians are about to be reminded that they have always been at war with Oceania. 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:03 | 6733752 JustObserving
JustObserving's picture

Growing confrontation betwen US and Russia in Syria.  This crash was probably not a coincidence:

Obama orders Special Forces troops into Syria


By Bill Van Auken 
31 October 2015


The announcement by the Obama White House that up to 50 US Special Forces troops are being deployed on the ground in Syria represents a qualitative escalation of Washington’s illegal intervention in the war-ravaged country.

White House press secretary Josh Earnest confirmed the deployment of what he described as the “special operators” at a press conference Friday. Earnest spent most of the conference attempting to deny the obvious: that this latest military escalation stands in direct contradiction to repeated promises made by Obama since 2013, when he pledged in an address to the American people that he would not “put American boots on the ground in Syria.”

Earnest claimed that the earlier statements were “related to what we were prepared to do to ensure that our concerns about the Assad regime and the need for regime change were implemented,” while the latest escalation was directed against the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

This is all nonsense and obfuscation. Washington has intervened over more than four years in Syria with the principal objective of toppling the government of President Bashar al-Assad and imposing a puppet of US interests in his place.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/10/31/syri-o31.html

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:42 | 6733845 Freddie
Freddie's picture

Are 3,000 American group troops being sent to Syria to be sacrified?   Embedded with Al Qeada and ISIS.

Supposedly this is the buzz at MacDill in Tampa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrqgUtuB__A

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:04 | 6733902 Berspankme
Berspankme's picture

Wish they would all refuse to go

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:18 | 6733952 BarkingCat
BarkingCat's picture

They should.

As part of the military you are required to follow LEGAL orders.

This order is ILLEGAL. Congress has not declared war thus the president has no authority to send military forces into another country (without that countries invitation) unless in response to an attack.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 16:38 | 6735111 valjoux7750
valjoux7750's picture

I dont believe it, he heard from friends on base? If thats the case some of them know whats up and if true surely some would not go.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:08 | 6733916 WhyWait
WhyWait's picture

Last time this happened, in 2013, there was a rebellion of sorts among US servicemen, with many pics and videos posted of servicemen holding posters saying things like "I will not fight for AlQaida!"  It's unknown what part that played in Obama backing down.

Hope that happens again! 

The US has had time to weed out, intiidate or isolate the dissidents and resisters but information has continued to spread through the alternate media, social media and reports from returning troops about what's really happening.  My guess: the spiit of rebellion will blaze forth again!

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 22:06 | 6735975 lakecity55
lakecity55's picture

Under International Law, the USSA has NO right to insert military personnel into Syria!

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:02 | 6733753 Omega_Man
Omega_Man's picture

if it is true that the pilot requested a landing could be just a tech problem.

It is so cheap to fly from Russia to Egypt, hard to believe their is profit in it. 

Russia's domestic carrier safety is not all that good. 

Really need evidence of nefarious activity before jumping to conclusions, although odd that it would break up like that. Sounds a bit fishy. Perhaps Israeli bastards did it and will blame on ISIS to get Russia deeper into the fight... when the real fight needs to be at the NEOCONS and is better carried out by assassination of evil people. Take them out quietly and a lot of problems go away. 

 

 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:10 | 6733765 ASACJon
ASACJon's picture

Omega, not to pick on Tel Aviv, but they have a history of this sort of thing. The Libya Lockerbie bombing was an Israeli operation. And on 9/11 the several Mossad agents celebrating at the moment of impact indicate to me that they were neck deep in that attack.

The US power structure shamefully countenances these and ensures investigations go no where.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:32 | 6733990 MsCreant
MsCreant's picture

Stunning you are the first to suggest that this may have just been an actual accident. If the pilot called in like the article said, then the plane probably had an issue on board and was not shot down. Probably not a big bomb either. Little bomb to cause a little trouble to be noticed, maybe. But they would have said there was an explosion and that was why they needed to land. 

I won't rule out foul play, but the posters are losing it on this one. No one shot this plane down if the pilots were already dealing with something and they wanted to reroute. 

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:57 | 6734089 philosophers bone
philosophers bone's picture

I am reading ZHers reaction to this and am not judging. The fact is that the US and other ZioTools have no credibility and have lost all moral authority. Clearly we cannot put ANYTHING past them.

Not sure that this was anything more than an accident, but when are we prosecuting Silverstein, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bibi for the crimes we know were committed? The problem is that when a murderer gets away with it, people want to nail him on something, anything in the name of justice.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 12:24 | 6734454 MsCreant
MsCreant's picture

Fair enough!

And now we have the ISIS folks claiming it...

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:04 | 6733755 ASACJon
ASACJon's picture

I'm about 100% sure that CIA/Mossad is the culprit. Fool me once, fool me twice, ... fool me a thousand times.

How many times do we have to watch this sort of cowardly violence from the same strain of people who at once hate any Euro-Christian heritage and at the same time employ the worst sort of dishonor to confront it?

Sounds like Putin is not going to mess around with the investigation.

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 09:26 | 6733801 bunnyswanson
bunnyswanson's picture

http://www.timesofisrael.com/report-iaf-hits-syria-arms-convoy-headed-fo...

Today:  "According to a report on the Lebanese Debate website, six IAF jets carried out the strike over the Qalamoun Mountains region of western Syria, and targeted weapons that were headed for Hezbollah, Channel 10 said.

Syrian media, however, said that Israeli warplanes had hit several Hezbollah targets in southern Syria."

Sat, 10/31/2015 - 10:25 | 6733970 BarkingCat
BarkingCat's picture

I hope the Russian start downing those fuckers really quick.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!