US Sends Troops To Syria: Here Are The Questions The Media Should Be Asking

Tyler Durden's picture

On Friday, The White House announced that the US is set to put boots on the ground in Syria.

Predictably, virtually no one in the mainstream media is asking the right questions.

A painful Q&A with Josh Earnest saw the White House Press Secretary attempting to explain to reporters that there’s a distinction between “advise and assist” and “combat.” In short, everyone was keen on documenting the stark contrast between placing spec ops troops in harm’s way and Obama’s 2013 pledge to “not put boots on the ground” inside Syria. 

While documenting the purported “shift” in strategy may make for good weekend reading for America’s clueless masses, it completely misses the point. As recently released helmet cam footage clearly demonstrates (assuming it actually depicts what Washington says it depicts) 30 Delta Force commandos were involved in a single operation in Iraq. That is, nearly as many troops as Obama is now set to send to Syria fought just last week in one battle against ISIS. And while that’s Iraq and we’re now talking about Syria, the distinction is to a large extent meaningless - there are American boots on the ground in the region and there have been in one capacity or another for at least 12 years. 

The real questions revolve around where these troops are going to be placed, what their objectives are, and ultimately, how the Pentagon plans to do this without putting them in the crosshairs of either the Russians, the Turkish air force, or Hezbollah. Here’s a bit of color from WSJ on what the “plan” is:

Up to 50 U.S. special-operations troops will assist Syrian rebel units spearheading what the Pentagon says would be a new military offensive against the militant group, marking a sharp escalation in the level of direct U.S. involvement on the ground inside Syria. The American forces are to link up with local forces in Kurdish-controlled territory whose mission will be to choke off supply lines to Islamic State militants in their Syrian stronghold of Raqqa.

 

The first phase of the new campaign is expected to kick off with an operation in northern Syria as early as next week, officials said. U.S. drones and fighter planes will provide the Syrian fighters with air support.

 

Under Mr. Obama’s new orders, the American commandos will operate in Syria under what the Pentagon calls an advise-and-assist mission, and will not accompany local forces on any of their operations “for the foreseeable future,” a senior U.S. defense official said.

 

But other defense officials said they couldn’t rule out the possibility that the forces would be pulled into occasional firefights with Islamic State military given their proximity to the confrontation line. The officials cited as an example last week’s raid in Iraq in which a U.S. commando was killed.

 

To support local forces with their ground campaign, Mr. Obama has authorized the deployment of A-10 Warthog ground-attack planes as well as F-15 fighters to the Incirlik Air Base in southern Turkey, administration officials said.

And here’s more, via Reuters:

A U.S.-backed Syrian rebel alliance on Saturday announced a fresh offensive against Islamic State in the northeast province of Hasaka, a day after the United States said it would send special forces to advise insurgents fighting the jihadists.

 

It was the first declared operation by the Democratic Forces of Syria, which joins together a U.S.-backed Kurdish militia and several Syrian Arab rebel groups, since it announced its formation earlier this month.

 

"We announce today the start of the first step in our military operations," a spokesman for the alliance's general command said in Arabic in a video statement posted on Youtube.

 

The video showed several dozen men in fatigues standing outdoors with yellow flags and banners carrying the name

of the Democratic Forces of Syria in Arabic and Kurdish.

 

The Kurdish YPG has been working closely with the U.S.-led anti-IS coalition since early this year, and has to date proved Washington's most effective partner on the ground against IS in Syria.

 

The United States, which announced on Friday it was to station its first ground troops in Syria for the war on IS, has dropped ammunition to rebels in the north of Syria but without specifying which group the aid was intended for.

 

"With the participation of all the factions... and with support and coordination with the planes of the international coalition to fight Daesh, we announce the start of the liberation of the southern countryside of Hasaka," the spokesman said, using an Arabic acronym for Islamic State.

Ok, so what appears to be going on here is that Washington is going to embed the US commandos with the Kurds and support them with airstikes flown from Incirlik. If you follow the conflict closely, that should strike you as completely absurd. The US is going to fight alongside the YPG and provide them with air support via a Turkish airbase. 

But just last week, Turkish warplanes flying from the very same airbase bombed these very same Kurds as they were trying to fight this very same ISIS!

As we noted in "Full Metal Retard: US Launches 'Performance-Based' Ammo Paradrop Program For Make-Believe 'Syrian Arabs'", the "Democratic Forces of Syria" (which has already been renamed - twice) doesn't exist. Washington created a fake umbrella group whose first move was apparently to merge with the Kurds. Why the charade? Becase Erdogan has an election to win and the last thing Turkey wants is for the US to be paradropping hundreds of tons of ammo and weapons to a group (the YPG) that is aligned with the PKK. In other words, Washington needed a cover story in order to sell the ammo drop to Erdogan, so the US claimed the weapons were actually in the hands of a group of "moderate Syrian Arabs" who just happen to have merged with the Kurds two days after they announced their existence. 

As a reminder, Turkey holds elections tomorrow. If the AKP doesn't win back its absolute majority in parliament, Erdogan is going to lose his mind, which means the crackdown on the Kurds is going to intensify. How in the world Washington plans to explain to Ankara that the US plans to use a Turkish airbase to fly missions in support of American commandos that have been stationed with a group Turkey considers to be affiliated with terrorists is a complete mystery. 

So that, in a nutshell, is what the press should be asking The White House to explain. 

Of course the real question is what happens when Russia and Iran have finished routing anti-regime forces in Western Syria and decide to start making the push east. That's when US troops will come in direct contact with Russian jets and Hezbollah ground troops. Obviously all bets are off at that point and one can only hope they'll be some kind of communication between Moscow and Washington lest the battle to "liberate" Raqqa from ISIS should end up being the fight that triggers World War III.

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Publicus's picture

Well they just shot down a Russian airline, I would avoid flying for the near future.

TeaClipper's picture

Please post your evidence for it being shot down. MSM are all reporting that the pilot radioed in that he was having technical difficulties right after take off

TuPhat's picture

Getting shot down is definitely a difficulty.  Who knows?

Sanity Bear's picture

and getting the fuselage blown in two by a SAM would definitely constitute a "technical difficulty"

TeaClipper's picture

Yes it would indeed, so post a link to some credible evidence, otherwise you are just blowing bubbles out of your ass at this stage

Doubleguns's picture

Dismissing it out of hand would not be credible either. Just saying, a plane is down that is not from some third world country, Russia just entered into this war, plane left a terrorist saturated area and they claim they did it. 

 

 

Mentaliusanything's picture

I logged in to Up vote you and applaud your 4 little words, which shows intelligence is not yet dead.

"and they filmed it"

Think in a vertical integration model and add the variables

Outstanding comment of 2015

Abitdodgie's picture

MANPADS or any type of SAM do not go over 21,000 feet .

gladih8r's picture

It didn't have to be MANPADS, it could have been any number of means.  The CIA has a very large catalog of toys and explosives for the ISIS head-choppers to flip through.

Also, the definition of a SAM is pretty broad.  Very few can't go past the 21,000 barrier.  Only the small shoulder launched ones are limited to that kind of altitude.  Most of the truck-mounted ones can go several times higher than that.  Although that would imply logistical issues of getting it to the right place at the right time without anyone objecting, operator training, etc.  There would be a number of easier options for these sociopathic fuckers to use.

FIAT CON's picture

The wonderful thing about todays media is who do you believe?

 I do not believe any western media, nor do I believe one word that comes out of Obumners mouth. If you were to follow the track record of the USSA, C-I.-A Mossad... well hmm... We may never know... MH17 ring a bell?

 

max2205's picture

And absolutely no one remembers Vietnam 

nmewn's picture

Breaking Nuwz!...Breaking Nuwz!

 

Thousands Of Iraq War Protesters Reunite Again Climbing Over WH Fence!

Claim President Is Ignoring Rape & Murder

Accuse Troops Of Committing Atrocities

Obama To Address The Nation Tonight

 

I don't really need a sarc tag do I? ;-)

rosiescenario's picture

Yes, their choice of the word "advisors" proves they are clueless as to how the Vietnam war got started.....we sure have plenty of really dum folks in D.C.

Hans-Zandvliet's picture

@max2205

Just like by 2050 absolutely no one will remember what happened in the Middle East. The last remaining straglers of WW-III will be fighting over a sack of potatoes. With sticks and stones.

TeaClipper's picture

Who needs boots when there are thousands of air dropped nike sneekers to be had

dogismycopilot's picture

Ok, so the US has permission from Assad to send troops in, right? I mean, this is legal and legitimate, right? Because you know the Yanks have the Rule of Law and all that good stuff...(sarcasm)

By coincendence Dinesh D'Souza has a new book out. "Stealing America"

http://stealingamericathebook.com/?utm_source=aweber&utm_medium=email&ut...

What do the Democratic Party and a gang of criminals have in common? Funny you should ask!

In the fall of 2014, I found myself hauled into federal court for improperly donating money to a friend who was running for the Senate. I pled guilty, apologized for the offense, and was sentenced to eight months in a state-run confinement center. In the facility, I lived among hardened criminals—drug dealers, thieves, gangbangers, rapists, and murderers.

Previously, I had seen America through the eyes of a grateful immigrant who came here as a student and became successful by applying and defending conservative principles. Again and again, I've made the case that America is an exceptional nation, fundamentally fair and just.

My prolonged exposure to the criminal underclass provided an eye-opening education in American realities. In the view of hardened criminals, America is anything but fair and just. Instead, it is a jungle in which various armed gangs face off against one another, with the biggest and most powerful gangs inhabiting the federal government.

Applying this perspective to American politics, I see that America is becoming less exceedingly exceptional every day. Indeed, it is in danger of becoming just like India and other corrupt third world nations, run by gangs of kleptocrats. As for American liberalism, it is not a movement of ideas at all; it is but a series of scams and cons aimed at nothing less than stealing the wealth of the American people.

In the confinement center, I learned how the hoodlums think and how they operate, how they organize themselves in gangs, how they rip people off and crush their enemies. I understood, for the first time, the psychology of crookedness. Suddenly I had an epiphany: this system of larceny, corruption, and terror that I encountered firsthand in the confinement center is exactly the same system that has been adopted and perfected by modern progressivism and the Democratic Party.

 

My new book is an exposé of Obama, Hillary, and modern liberalism, not as a defective movement of ideas, but as a crime syndicate.

Ignatius's picture

Rackets.  As old as history, but the propaganda is good... ney, it's superb.

Ghost of Robotrader's picture

Add republicans to your rant and I will agree with you.  If you miss republican war mongering and crookedness you are missing half the picture.  I do agree the underclass seems to see america differently than the sheltered middle class, but perhaps not for long

Freddie's picture

Are they going to send 3,000 American troops to be sacrificed in Syria?  Embedded with ISIS and Al Qeada?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrqgUtuB__A

StrangerInAStrangeLand's picture

I didn't see any mention of republicans, only democrats in your post.  You do realize they work together and just "act" like they don't, right?  BTW, I agree with your post and would expand it to include both parties.

BarnacleBill's picture

The immediate purpose may be to keep the flow of refugees into Europe. That needs continuing disturbance in the Middle East generally.

http://barlowscayman.blogspot.com/2015/09/europes-refugee-problem.html

 

Shad_ow's picture

...or to act as human shields for Obama's proxy soldiers against Assad, ISIS.

lester1's picture

Will the media ever call out Obama on his lies???

 

Vote up of you are sick and tired of the corporate media giving Obama a pass!

CheapBastard's picture

Are they still jealous of our freedom?

Lynn Trainor's picture

Yes so jealous of our vanishing freedom.

Freddie's picture

He and the NeoCons and LibCons are all the same.  Owned by MIC, Soros, Deep State, ZWO and banksters.

Are 3,000 US Troops being sent to Syria to die to kick off WW3?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrqgUtuB__A

Money Boo Boo's picture

Will the media ever call out Obama on his lies???

 

of course not!! They didn't call out Bush for the BIG LIE, attacking Iraq for WMD and fake AL QuCIAda affiliations either so you obviously are missing the ENTIRE POINT of what is really going on here, maybe start over in your research and look at the entire picture and stop whining about one effeminate individual.....wake up!

44magnum's picture

The fucks that volunteered to serve should be fragging their commanders. Honor the oath they took instead of being hired guns for the war mongers. They most likely will be false flag bait and then get a title of hero which wont matter much when your dead.

Grandad Grumps's picture

My guess is that in addition to the special forces, they already have ex-special force contractors in Syria... traitors to the human race. I am guessing they know it and some love it.

Abitdodgie's picture

All order follower's are the same wether they are n the army or police or any type of LEO they are all as thick as pig shit and they will do what they are told ,period.

Lumberjack's picture

Trick or Treat: Russia Delivers Powerful Bombs to Islamic State's Doorstep

 

http://sputniknews.com/world/20151031/1029388140/russia-syria-bombs-isla...

 

Russian Su-34 frontline bombers stationed at the Hmaimim air base near the Syrian port of Latakia have used KAB-1500 guided bombs to destroy Islamic State targets, RIA Novosti quoted Russian Aerospace Forces spokesman Igor Klimov as saying.

 

Accompanied by Su-30SM multi-role fighter jets, the Su-34 planes dropped the 1,500 kg bombs on Islamic State targets in parts of eastern Syria controlled by the jihadist group. The Russian acronym KAB stands for "adjustable aircraft bomb" in English.

 

-------

 

(must see pix and video) click on main link.

 

------

 

 

....In the past thirty days, Russian military aircraft carried out total of 1,391 sorties in Syria, destroying 1,623 Islamic State targets, according to the Russian Armed Forces's General Staff.

 

Ghost of Robotrader's picture

The UK paid damages to the USA after the civil war for building and selling two warships to the confederates.  I wonder how international tribunals will react today if we don't succeed in overthrowing the Syrian government and getting a liability limitation agreement signed by its successor

Urban Redneck's picture

Justice is a process, not an outcome. (legally speaking)

Before that lawsuit was settled some long dead relative bought a confederate warship, loaded it with guns and troops, and set off to attack a sovereign country.  When that effort didn't go as planned, he sued their asses, in their own courts, and won.  The grand poobah didn't want to part with millions in gold, so he slow walked payment.  Unfortunately for him, less than a year after he finally paid... the US government (to whom to the claim had been transferred for enforcement) turned around and attacked his country, with a whole lot more than a single warship.

For a more contemporary and almost as bizarre outcome, one need look no further than Rothschild-stooge-Khodorovsky and the Yukos claim against Russia. 

cowdiddly's picture

They are sending American troops to Syria to support the "moderate" rebels but are supposed to fight ISIS when in Iraq. You will have no trust of the troops you are fighting when your fighting both sides. Some of the ISIS and so called moderates have already joined forces. When the "moderate terrorist commander your embedded with decides to join forces with ISIS guess what happens to YOU? This has already happened to some Chechen mercenaries fighting for FSA groups when their units joined forces with ISIS. They refused to fight with ISIS and were summarily slaughtered by ISIS. THis is beyond nuts. You are placing American troops into an absurd position here.ITS beyond belief stupid

The People in Iraq and Syria know this and both sides would not be able to trust the American soldiers representing both sides,. Some might be sold out or bartered by the very people they are embeded with, Iraqi, moderate,FSA, Kurd or other,  because of this. Its only a matter of time befor we get a video of a moderate rebel "gently" sawing off a squad American soldiers heads.

If for some retarded reason the American military feels the need to go to Iraq or Syria then they need to go with a full force, and full support of ALL branches of your own Armed forces under their own commanders that care about trying to get you back home alive. PERIOD. Them caring about you is even questionable by the Treasonous Bastard Generals that are going along with this. Its time for you commanders to step up to the plate and say enough.. Leadership MY ASS

If you don't want to do that then call Blackrock or train another 5 troops.

IF you are in the Armed services, refuse to allow them to use you for this stupidity and go AWOL. IF you have a son GET HIM out of here and deal with the Courts. Yes you will be in trouble but you will live to see another day. This is suicidal stupid. All so the US politicians can save some sort of face and be involved because of their complete fuckup. THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU TOOK AN OATH TO DO> You did not sign up for terrorism or to become a terrorist. BREACH OF CONTRACT PERIOD>

 From a Veteran. FUCK THEM this is BULLSHIT.

shovelhead's picture

I don't think there's a "Fuck them this is bullshit" clause in the Military Code of Justice.

cowdiddly's picture

Yes there is. Its called AWOL, refusing to fight and deal with the consequences. You might not have been around in the 60s.

WOAR's picture

When it comes to orders, there is. You only have to obey a lawful order.

The Court of Military Appeals held that "the justification for acts done pursuant to orders does not exist if the order was of such a nature that a man of ordinary sense and understanding would know it to be illegal."

So, if you are ordered to steal someones property, like a boat or their car, you don't have to. Nor do you have to shoot a non-combatant.

There are rules to what you can do. "I was just following orders" is not a valid excuse for any crime.

Amy G. Dala's picture

"Treasonous bastard generals," indeed.  If you haven't noticed, Mister Diddly, our Narcissist in Chief has effectively purged any contrarian thought within the flag ranks.

The poster boy for this is the mealy-mouthed Admiral John Kirby . . .he slipped those shoulderboards off with the greatest of ease, and slid comfortably into his new duties as the new State Department Spokeslackey.  Now, think about that for a second:  flag rank career warrior who has no problem being promoted to replace the indispensable . . .Marie Harf.

Don't trust anybody over O-5 in Obama's military.  This too, from a veteran.

Tarshatha's picture

I disagree in the broad strokes, there are no moderate or extream terrorists operating in the ME, only US and Israeli backed terrorists.

If Israel was in South America, there would be no terrorists in the ME.

Israel and Jews = terrorism, and the sooner the world wakes up to that fact, the better.

Why.Not.'s picture

The Dumbass-in-Chief wouldn't blink if the entire contingent of American spec ops guys were wiped out on some incredibly stupid, suicidal assignment - like being dropped in insignificant numbers without adequate logistical support, security or reliable allies into the middle of a nasty, chaotic hot war. What could possibly go right in those circumstances? Some of the best and brightest are being wasted by the disgusting POS in the White House and his personal dominatrix gang of America/white/male-hating "advisors."

rwe2late's picture

Earlier, world-wide drone assassinations with innocent bystander deaths.

 And now the fact that Obama can send US troops to invade another country

without  protests about violating international law

and the US Constitution

shows how deeply US citizens have come to wallow in stupidity, servility,

and narcissistic indifference.

 

HolyfieldsOtherEar's picture

Quick, naive question.

Obama doesn't have Congressional authority to wage war in Syria. Yet he's doing it.

That means he is breaking the law.

Who can press charges? Seriously.

Winston Smith 2009's picture

And the incompetent idiots running our geopolitical activities (into the ground) do what they always do - if something isn't working, it must be because you're not doing enough of it, not because what you're doing is fundamentally flawed. I'll call it The Federal Reserve Effect.

bankonzhongguo's picture

This is simply the outgrowth of what Congress gave GW Bush after 9/11 - a carte blance policy of never ending war.

A president need only label a threat to US interests and attack.

No more war powers act, no more authorization.

No Iran-Contra either.

These are the "legal" benefits of crossing the Rubicon.

What will be discovered over time - principally by the American Millennials Generation is that these programs of arming insurgents and proxy wars like in AfPak, Iraq, Yemen and Syria are fundamentally useless because of the state's reliance upon a childlike pre-Modernity cultures that live, eat and die all within a 10 mile radius.

Someone from Princeton will make the notion that robots are the only way to supersede local reliance on populations for logistics, language, and winning the hearts and minds.

The age of Special Forces fighting the war on the landscape of the human mind will give way to battalions of remote warbots armed with all weather sensor arrays, able to loiter on the battlefield for months and be armed with a telescoping tower mounted with some heavy slug thrower with a near 100% kill ratio.

There is already an area defense system called the Kraken in trials.  Wait for it mounted on a Humvee driven by Google 6000 miles away.

Millions of square miles of the Earth will become literal no-man's lands as sentries move and hold territory in a way we never could do in AfPak.

As Stalin said (I think) "No man. No problems."