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Ban Ki-Moon Condemns The American Stand On Syria, Endorses Putin's

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Authored by Eric Zuesse,

In an interview with Spanish newspapers that was published October 31st, U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon condemned U.S. President Barack Obama’s demand that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad be removed from office, and Moon said: “The future of Assad must be determined by the Syrian people.”

Here is the entire quotation:

"The future of President Assad must be decided by the Syrian people. Now, I do not want to interfere in the process of Vienna, but I think it is totally unfair and unreasonable that the fate of a person [diplomatese here for: U.S. President Barack Obama’s demand that Assad be removed from the Presidency of Syria] to paralyze all this political negotiation. This is not acceptable. It's not fair. The Syrian government insists that Assad should be part of the transition. Many Western countries oppose the Syrian government’s position. Meanwhile, we lost years. 250,000 people have been killed. There are 13 million refugees or internally displaced. Over 50% of hospitals, schools and infrastructure has been destroyed in Syria. You must not lose more time. This crisis goes beyond Syria, beyond the region. It affects Europe. It is a global crisis.”

The U.N. Secretary General is here implicitly blaming all of this - lots of blood and misery - on U.S. President Obama, and on the “many Western countries” who ally with him and have joined with him in demanding regime-change in Syria.

The position of Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has been, and is, to the exact contrary of Obama’s: namely, that only an election by the Syrian people can determine whom Syria’s President should be. The U.N. Secretary General is here agreeing with Putin, and rejecting Obama’s demand, that the matter be determined instead by non-Syrians, and by non-democratic means (which is basically like George W. Bush did in Iraq, and like Barack Obama did in Libya).

Suckers in the West fall for the Western aristocracies’ line that Putin and not Obama is wrong on this and is the cause of the dragged-out Syrian war. Such fools don’t even ask themselves whether in this dispute it is Obama, or instead Putin, who is supporting the most basic democratic principle of self-rule by the people. But the average individual is that manipulable: so manipulable as to think that black is white, and white is black; that good is bad, and bad is good. Totally manipulable.

This interview was buried by Spanish newspapers, because the Spanish government is allied with the United States. For example, the most prominent Spanish newspaper to publish even quotations from this interview is El Pais, and their headline for the story is "Catalonia is not among the territories with the right to self-determination.” Even there, the headline is false. What Moon actually said instead on that issue of the Catalonian independence movement, was: “The Catalan question is a very delicate matter and, while the UN Secretary General, I'm not in a position to comment on that because it is a purely internal matter.” Lies and distortions in the Western ‘news’ media are that routine: so obvious, sometimes, virtually any intelligent reader can easily recognize that he’s reading lies and propaganda (like in that ‘news’ story).

This newspaper actually buried the part about Assad and Obama (the blockbuster in the entire story) near the end, but not at the very end, of its report, because one of the standard things that ‘news’ media do if they want to de-emphasize a particular point is to bring the matter up near the end but not at the end. To place it at  the end, would emphasize, instead of de-emphasize, the given point: it’s not the professional way to bury news. Knowledge of how to bury news is important for the managers of any ‘news’ medium, because such knowledge is essential in order to make the medium achieve the objectives of the medium’s owner, the propagandistic function, which is the main reason why wealthy people buy major ‘news’ media, and why major corporations chose to advertise in (and thereby subsidize) these media (which increases that given ‘news’ media-owner’s income). 

As to why the managers (including editors) of El Pais wanted their ‘reporter’ to misrepresent Moon as being opposed to Catalan independence, the reason is that the owners of El Pais are opposed to Catalan independence. It’s not only in the editorials. With very few exceptions, a newspaper’s editorials and its ‘news’ reporting are slanted the same way. However, sometimes, for particular reasons, the editorial position is instead slanted the opposite way from the ‘news’ ‘reporting.’ Public relations, or PRopaganda, is a science, not for amateurs. And a major function of management is to apply that science so as to maximize value for the medium’s owners. It’s like any business, but the press is also part of the business of government: moulding the public’s opinions so as to serve the needs of the aristocracy that owns the vast majority of the nation’s wealth. The idea of ‘the free press’ is itself PRopaganda. In reality, the press is far from free.

Anyway, Ban ki-Moon took a rare courageous position here: what he said was correct, though it’s virtually unmentionable in the West. For example: how widely is this news-report being published? It was submitted to virtually all national news-media in the U.S. and several other Western countries. You can google the headline, “Ban Ki Moon Condemns the American Stand on Syria, Endorses Putin’s” to find out how many (and which ones) are actually publishing it.

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Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:08 | 6738015 Government need...
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The White Housenigger COULDNT be a bloodthirsty tyrant.  He won the Noble Peace Prize.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:11 | 6738023 Fukushima Fricassee
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He is just another idiot homosexul who reads written text from a teleprompter.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:40 | 6738085 chubbar
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Well, with all due respect, I don't know too many homo's that read that well from a teleprompter. I think a little deference to the fudgepacker in chief is called for in this instance. 

Now, if we are judging his golf game, the head bone smoker should be roundly criticized!

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:17 | 6738131 Keyser
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Ki-Moon better watch his step, lest he suffer the effects of telling the truth in a time of universal deceit...  US foreign policy has been reduced to destroying a country in order to save it, all in the name of inflicting their form of "democracy"... 

Does anyone else find it odd that a Russian airliner falls out of the sky over Egypt at the very time that negotiations are taking place in Vienna to resolve the Syrian crisis? 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:50 | 6738243 strannick
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hard to accept were not the good guys.

so we call Putin the bad guy.

I'm guessing a west African maid suddenly accuses Moon of rape.

or his nailgun turns on him.

America ruins the world to rule it.

Reminds me when Clintons Sec of State Maddie Albrecht, replying to consequences of America's Iraqi sanctions said half a million starving Iraqi kids were acceptable collateral damae.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:42 | 6738384 old naughty
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"...took a 'rare' courageous position..."

so courage was rare, only after "seeing" the pope, hummm.

Boehner flipped, then flopped, similarity here, no?

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 22:42 | 6738529 highandwired
Mon, 11/02/2015 - 02:26 | 6738874 omniversling
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"...took a 'rare' courageous position..." by not naming the other players, including those tribalists in charge of US foreign policy?

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 09:21 | 6739241 mtl4
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The ultimate irony was that Maddie Albright's father actual came to the US claiming political asylum........only to be later tied in with the Rothschilds and Soros.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:02 | 6738275 Nassim
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Agreed. Don't forget what happened to Dag Hammarskjöld when he didn't toe the line - his plane was accidented in today's Zambia.

1961 Ndola United Nations DC-6 crash

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Ndola_United_Nations_DC-6_crash

 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:42 | 6738349 Paveway IV
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"...You can google the headline, “Ban Ki Moon Condemns the American Stand on Syria, Endorses Putin’s” to find out how many (and which ones) are actually publishing it..."

True, but Googling that specific title mostly brings back Eric's article or sites that published his article.

Even more interesting is to Google a less specific version, say "Ban ki moon syria putin" to see if any MSM mentions it. Here's that search limited to the past 24 hours. Let's see how global journalism rates.

Plenty of references again to Zeusse's article on those suspicious 'alternative' sites or Reddit.

The first 'MSM' smelling result is Voice of America - not really MSM, but the 'official' U.S. propaganda mouthpiece. Let's see what they say. They do mention Ban Ki-moon, but only give a remark he made, "...U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said Saturday that he welcomed international talks on Syria, but that they should not be hung up over what should happen to President Bashar al-Assad..." Hmm, that seems kind of indefinite, like he could really mean that Assad is disposable. That's pretty damn different from his clear admonition (which VOA ignored) that the Syrian people should decide. You know - democracy. So VOA fails (oh, the irony), but we could already assume that.

The next result is the irritating-as-fuck 'NYT search results' page. Thanks, useless evil Google. Wading through the trash, the first article seems the most relevant: U.N. Chief Says World’s Failure to Act on Suffering Is a ‘Disgrace’ . It starts out with Moon's general condemnation of the inhumanity and violence, but after a few paragraphs points out the recent Syrian missile attack against the opposition in Douma as an example. Then a little click-for-graphic thing which tries to show how people were dying in the conflict and makes a weak attempt at describing actions by both sides, but each graphic or picture is designed to emphasize the Syrian government's culpability for deaths. Coming back from that propaganda side-track, the article finally quotes Moon, "...Commending their initiative, Mr. Ban said the future of Mr. Assad should not be allowed to hold up efforts to end the war..." . Oh, that sounds familiar. Just a coincidence that NYT would use the same VOA spin to de-emphasize the fact taht it is only the ZATO and evil Gulf cronies that are insisting on Assad's departure and holding up efforts to end the war. The message NYT is delivering on behalf of Moon is that the war should end, and never mind what the U.S. want's to do with Assad.

Times of Israel is next, but it's also an irritating-as-hell 'search results' page. The first article listed is US troops in Syria will only fight Islamic State — Kerry but you need go no further than the subtitle "UN chief says Vienna talks to end country’s civil war should not be held up over Bashar Assad’s future" . Glad to see that the Times of Israel also falls into line, ignoring Moon's comment about the will of the Syrian people and instead, points out how trivial the people's will is - it just shouldn't matter! Let's give ToI another shot. The next article is UN chief urges ‘flexibility’ at multilateral Syria talks but once again, no need to go further than the subtitle "Ban Ki-moon welcomes Iran’s participation in negotiations, says there is ‘no military solution’ to civil war" . Again, no reason to trouble the Syrian people or kick fake ISIS/fake al Nusra/fake FSA's ass in Syria. The solution should be 'negotiated' (as if...). 

See the trend going here? 

By the third page of Google results, Forbes shows up. After their usesess Quote of the Day and ad countdown timer, we get to an article about Moon being on their list of the most powerful people. Thanks for nothin', Forbes. Later...

ABC News is next. Surprise - fucking 'search results' page generated by ABC News for topic 'united nations'. You know what, Google and Western MSM? Fuck you all. Half way down the results, we get Ban: Talks on Syria Shouldn't Be Held up Over Assad's Future . Which is reiterated twice more in the massive, eight-sentence long article. Nothing about the Syrian people deciding - the message is "just don't talk about Assad" (so we can kill him). 

No point in going on. The narrative seems to be that mere consideration of the will of the Syrian people would impede a negotiated settlement to their ongoing slaughter <sigh...>. 

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 08:44 | 6739138 taoJones
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Thx PW for doing all that legwork, and tangibly confirming my MSM suspicions....

 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:40 | 6738236 o r c k
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Sure are a bunch of pre-adolescent basement dwellers jumping in here. I wonder if they even know what the subject is. How embarrassing for the remainder.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:12 | 6738026 Bank_sters
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If barry can be president, why can't Vlad?

Putin: Global Warming 'A Fraud'... 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:47 | 6738094 Mr Poopra
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The "Global Warming" charade is an excuse to subvert emerging economies from utilizing natural resources like coal, oil, and natural gas.

 

Putin knows this.  

 

Remember it's not Barry Soetoro formulating U.S. policy, foreign or domestic.  His job is to sell it. 

 

 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:40 | 6738107 Haole
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Christiana Figueres of the U.N. and others of various I.P.C.C. working groups have admitted that "Global Warming/Climate Change/Climate Disruption/Climate What Next" has nothing to do with the climate but everything to do with destroying the capitalist financing model, administering a new one which they control globally and "redistributing" wealth from developed nations to the developing nations under the guise of fair "climate policy".  Global neo-feudalism is the eventual goal here apparenly.

 

Pass 'em around...

http://z4.invisionfree.com/Popular_Technology/index.php?showtopic=3570

http://z4.invisionfree.com/Popular_Technology/index.php?showtopic=3748

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:54 | 6738263 MEAN BUSINESS
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global neo-feudalism is some distant objective? yeah, ok. 

IPCC (AR5?)WG's - nothing to do with climate? LULZ.

 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:50 | 6738393 Escrava Isaura
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Haole,"Global Warming/Climate Change/Climate Disruption/Climate What Next" has nothing to do with the climate

 

Wonder why?

Ms. Figueres served as Senior Adviser to C-Quest Capital, a carbon finance company.

Second: Developed nations need the underdeveloped to use coal. Wonder why US moved manufacturing to China and China now is so polluted. Save the natural gas and oil for developed nations.

Third: Continuous growth. Otherwise she is out of her cushion job and great retirement package.

Fourth: Her education. London School of Economics and Political Science at Swarthmore College.

 

Just follow the money.

 

 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:16 | 6738316 BlindMonkey
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Why then does it seem that Russia is all in on Global Warming?  They are pushing it like it is a real thing and not a hoax.  The top levels of the Kremlin are presumably aware of it but they keep feeding it to the Russian sheeple much like everywhere else.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:27 | 6738339 BlindMonkey
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I guess I stand corrected.  The NYT says that Putin is a global warming skeptic so it must be so.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2015/10/29/world/europe/29reuters-climate...

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:20 | 6738187 MEAN BUSINESS
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-59. The number of downvotes I earned (a personal record!) for presenting with no comment ~ one week ago the text of what President Putin said reagarding "climate change" on 28SEP15 at the UNGA address.

I have commented elsewhere that I found it very significant that it was the LAST topic he mentioned in that speech. Obviously, given the events that ensued two days after the speech, he had some pressing issues to discuss, but regardless, as the article above discusses:

"To place it at the end, would emphasize, instead of de-emphasize, the given point"

The world is now just 30 days from COP 21 Paris. Well over one year ago I was saying "all roads lead to Paris" often qualifying that, in light of events like Crimea/Ukraine, Snowden, interference with President Morales' plane, sarin gas red line, etc, that the road was getting bumpy and that there was no GAURANTEE that "we" would actually get to Paris.

How in hell any global "agreement" can be made under these conditions is hard to fathom. It's looking as though Paris may very well be the end of the road for the United Nations... if we get there!

32 days ago Putin said this about global warming aka climate change:


Ladies and gentlemen, one more issue that shall affect the future of the entire humankind is climate change. It is in our interest to ensure that the coming UN Climate Change Conference that will take place in Paris in December this year should deliver some feasible results. As part of our national contribution, we plan to limit greenhouse gas emissions to 70–75 percent of the 1990 levels by the year 2030.

 However, I suggest that we take a broader look at the issue. Admittedly, we may be able to defuse it for a while by introducing emission quotas and using other tactical measures, but we certainly will not solve it for good that way. What we need is an essentially different approach, one that would involve introducing new, groundbreaking, nature-like technologies that would not damage the environment, but rather work in harmony with it, enabling us to restore the balance between the biosphere and technology upset by human activities.

We propose convening a special forum under the auspices of the UN to comprehensively address issues related to the depletion of natural resources, habitat destruction, and climate change.

 

It is indeed a challenge of global proportions. And I am confident that humanity does have the necessary intellectual capacity to respond to it. We need to join our efforts, primarily engaging countries that possess strong research and development capabilities, and have made significant advances in fundamental research. We propose convening a special forum under the auspices of the UN to comprehensively address issues related to the depletion of natural resources, habitat destruction, and climate change. Russia is willing to co-sponsor such a forum.

 

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/50385

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:41 | 6738239 Escrava Isaura
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As Keyser wrote: lest he suffer the effects of telling the truth

 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:01 | 6738273 dark pools of soros
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"nature-like technologies" like riding bears to work, smoke signals and carrier pigeons..   this means Putin is getting ready to shoot off the Electromagnetic Bombs

 



Mon, 11/02/2015 - 02:47 | 6738890 MEAN BUSINESS
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no no no, you missed the keyword "groundbreaking nature-like technologies".

He's gonna bury you! Natural selection, death controls, and all that stuff...

I did say I believed Rad wouldn't believe who's been reading Zero Hedge  ; )

ALL roads lead to PARIS 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:11 | 6738294 Bananamerican
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I was gonna share this on F'book, try to wake some more people up...

but I can't if some of you clowns insist on writing shit like "The White Housenigger COULDNT be a bloodthirsty tyrant."

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:18 | 6738321 BlindMonkey
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Generally I am proud of the intelligence of the ZH crowd but I competely agree that this is bullshit.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:31 | 6738350 Welfare Tycoon
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Looks like it is time for the United States to paradrop 50 motherfuckin' tons of nailguns onto this heretic's doorstep. 

Hola BK-M! 

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 14:33 | 6740288 J1mB0b
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The prize was preemptive !

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:12 | 6738019 Fukushima Fricassee
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Obama is a punk ass fag who once again is personally dissed.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:23 | 6738198 WhackoWarner
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Obama is a dupe. USA is a punk ass bully.  Got absolutely nothing to do with sexual preferences. Who cares?  The state has no place in people's private bedroom habits. And nor should it be used to denigrate entire "choices" as some label for bad thinking, politics and manipulation globally.

It was said on an earlier thread that the kindy garten insults do not lend anything to discussion. So as much as many comments here centre around Obama's manhood or Putin's they lend no intelligence.  ALL THEY DO IS SHOW THE  well established fear of "men" of anal penetration and their fascination with it wrapped up in juvenile expressions of hate.

 

I have always wondered why "hetero-men' denigrate, beat up and insult bi-sexual or gay sex?  Yet at the same time cannot wait to pay for any opportunity to watch anal sex videos? Why "hetero" men want anal sex with women to such a large preference.  The mind boggles and the hypocrisy grows.

So fukishima fricasse?  And all else.  I ask why is it you pick on this aspect of sexual preference above any intelligent comment?  Need some KY Lube boys? 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:21 | 6738326 BarkingCat
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I can not tell you why many men go for anal but I too find it strange.

I did formulate a theory as who they are however.

1) men with little dicks

2) closet fags

3) sadists

 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 22:35 | 6738468 Fukushima Fricassee
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Not knowing where the universe designates in which sex you stick your damn parts means you are one confused son of a damn fool about every damn thing well beyond sex.  Fuck you stupid shit I give a damn where you chose to stick your little thang, just keep the hell away from my kids and the confused , sick Nazi fag you support.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 23:39 | 6738663 Chuck Walla
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I have always wondered why "hetero-men' denigrate, beat up and insult bi-sexual or gay sex? 

Frankly, most of us couldn't give a shit less. What I object to is having my face shoved in it and told this violation of natural law is the best thing evah and I'm an idiot for being straight. Bold talk from people cannot reproduce themselves without the opposite sex involved. But if I involve the opposite sex...

 

If the marines catch a guy hammering another dude on the sink, don't ask, don't tell, ain;t no harm no foul. If the same marine is caught hammering a dame in the head, Section 15 at minimum.

FORWARD  SOVIET FAGGOTS!

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:12 | 6738027 onewayticket2
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He knows obama wants his job in 15 months.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:04 | 6738146 Keyser
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That job has been reserved by Hitlery... Once she is coronated, she will anoint Slick Willie with Ki-Moon's job... 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 22:31 | 6738470 Fukushima Fricassee
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Long live Edward S. , mother fucker

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:14 | 6738030 BanksterSlayer
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The same courageous position that the IMF took when delaying the addition of the Yuan to the SDR, only to do an about-face one month later?

Yeah, Banny got a phone call from Xi.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:08 | 6738158 Keyser
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Barry didn't get a call, his owners got the call... It was either include the RMB in the SDR basket or we destroy you financially... We are rapidly approaching the event-horizon where it will be every country for itself in an attempt to stem financial Armageddon and China will throw the US under the bus faster than you can say boo...  Nothing like playing Russian roulette with all the chambers loaded and the Fed just had it's bluff called... 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:15 | 6738032 Sudden Debt
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When Snowden came out, he fled to the UNHCR in Hong Kong where he stayed for 3 days.

After that, he fled to Russia because they where going to turn him in.

The UN is unter total control of the US and the US uses it to spread it's policy amonst all world leaders.

So if the UN condemns the US, it's because the US is using them to open a door to Russia without losing face.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:29 | 6738063 jusman
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Who cares what the method is - if the outcome is dialog and diplomacy rather than confrontation - then I am all for it.  (That is with Russia and not with ISIS...).  

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:45 | 6738099 chubbar
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Sidebar, I'm not for giving the UN any legitimacy with regard to either it's armed forces or it's laws.

Sovereign gov't's ONLY should make the laws that it's people are governed by and no UN forces should ever be deployed to a sovereign state unless invited. AND, the people of that sovereign state should have a voice with regard to that deployment!

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 22:39 | 6738520 jusman
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In a way, agree, but the UN can facilitate dialogue, debate issues, raise opinions of the "collective" interest rather than sovereign.  NEVER forget we are living on ONE planet, and we are all neighbours, and the world is shrinking.  So the UN serves a most useful purpose of expressing the collective opinion, on the basis of (somewhat) agreed common beliefs, and as such does have a mandate (as we are all intertwined in a way in our global society) to find ways to bring reason (?) to issues.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:41 | 6738090 exartizo
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Good Observation and likely well said.

Interesting that a well known American Tool like the UN would come out like that.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:59 | 6738132 Jorgen
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"So if the UN condemns the US, it's because the US is using them to open a door to Russia without losing face." 

It's getting harder and harder to figure out who works for whom:

Israeli Military Warns Its Personnel of Possible CIA Recruitment

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:11 | 6738297 conscious being
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Disinfo from the "By deception" gang.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:05 | 6738134 two hoots
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Has the US permanetly damaged its global reputation  in all matters of foreign affairs? 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:24 | 6738201 booboo
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If that's the case then their hired mouthpieces didn't get the word and we all know it would be on the front page, no, just another sign that the U.S. Is off the rails and they are dragging France, England and Germany down with them. We are outsville baby, get used to it.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:20 | 6738042 Raymond_K._Hessel
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How many divisions does the UN have?

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:29 | 6738066 Son of Loki
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Working for the UN is probaly the next best thing to working for the Gubmint. Very little work, zero accountability and fat benefits with a sweet pension.

 

And oh yeah, there's lots of parties and hookers from what I've read.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:54 | 6738122 bonin006
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And tax free salary, or is that just the IMF?

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:03 | 6738144 two hoots
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and that immunity thing.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:12 | 6738166 Keyser
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Yes, UN atrocities are becoming more well known... Much like the US, everywhere the UN goes, things get worse... 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/11/un-peacekeepers-accused-kil...

 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:20 | 6738043 lolmao500
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Gee for once the UN says something not 100% idiotic. I guess the end is nigh.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:24 | 6738051 Oldwood
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This broken clock is only correct every 12 years?

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 00:17 | 6738724 OldPhart
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I sincerely doubt that our War Criminal Government will face any tribunal.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:22 | 6738045 anonymike
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The mass murderer Obama got Mooned for being an international criminal. Yep, the fascist western media is going to try and bury that one deep. Hat's off to Zuesse for digging this up and smearing it in Obama's face.

Ban Ki Moon better be on the watch for a predator drone, to be reported as a terrorist attack, which it will actually be...

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:43 | 6738093 Oldwood
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We use to live in a world of nationalism and wars between nations, now it is a world of organized crime and a world war between "interests" rather than nations. The UN is just another "organization of crime" with its own agenda, the principle one being the elimination of America and western Europe as dominating powers. Obama shares this belief and his actions are for effect, to actually empower these UN types to move forward on the western world take down. If he really wanted Assad gone, he would be gone. This is all about chaos enabling a reshuffle of world power, one that many here would celebrate without knowing what that really means. None of us do, but I would submit that it will result in a world much like what affirmative action and "black lives matter" is doing here in America, a pursuit of "equality" at the absolute expense of white Christians.

Tell me again who Moon IS?

When we look at what European leaders are doing to their own nations, their own people, can there be any doubt what is going on here? Or are we to just nod our heads in agreement and submission that this is ALL for the greater good, without acknowledging that the greater good is NOT our greater good, but others of which we are to sacrifice and ultimately

SUBMIT?

Do not doubt that our submission is demanded here, just as the Germans and Swiss and all the rest are being TOLD. It is a crime that we have enabled a civil war in so many areas of the world.So much death and destruction, and all of it I believe, as an ultimate straw man of deceit. Moon is part of the agenda, not a response or detractor of it. We will be asked for much over the coming next few years, and as in the past, we will submit willingly because we believe we have no other choice, and if our decisions go as in the past, soon we will in fact have none left.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:50 | 6738113 chubbar
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+1 for realizing that this is an effort to legitimze the UN as a world governing body.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 22:17 | 6738460 acetinker
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Oldwood, dear friend-

There is no war, there is only synergy.  Yeah 'the west' claims to be fighting ISIS while secretly funding it.

Putin jumps in and makes 'the west' look like fools, and Ban (not Moon, that's his first name) comes out supporting Putin.

In the midst of all this, a low fare Russian airliner falls out of the sky in Sinai.  ISIS claims responsibility, but the Russians say that ISIS have no systems capable of downing an airplane at 30k+ altitude.

I have been down a bunch of rabbit holes in my time, and here is what I've learned-

All governments are corrupt to the core.  You cannot take at face value anything an 'official' or 'expert' says, including Putin.

All of the rabbit holes are interconnected, and they all eventually have portals to the surface.

However, they are are all routed through a dark, underground hub. That hub is known to us, but it is not generally recognized for what it truly is.

The hub controls our money.  As such, the hub controls all of us.  Its primary weapon is usury, and it's not entirely made up of Jews.

Just tryin' to help.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:22 | 6738048 The_Prisoner
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Are the owners of El Pais a of a certain ethnic-religious lineage known to conceal its true ethnicity in order to infiltrate and subvert, of which Ignatius Lotola is but one example?

I believe in Spain they have been referred to as Marranos.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:24 | 6738052 JustObserving
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Ban Ki-Moon has no credibility:

WikiLeaks reveal that Ban Ki-moon secretly worked with Israel to undermine UN report into Gaza war crimes

In a startling revelation, it has come to light that UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon asked the "members of the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) not to take into account the report submitted by the UN Board of Inquiry that accused Israel of targeting UN buildings in Gaza in December 2008 and January 2009". Quoting some documents released by WikiLeaks on Friday, TeleSUR English reported, "Ban Ki-moon secretly worked with Israel to undermine UN report into Gaza war crimes."

 http://www.sott.net/article/283590-WikiLeaks-reveal-that-Ban-Ki-moon-sec...

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:16 | 6738178 Keyser
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Does any western politician have any credibility? I think not... Being an evil, zionist loving psychopath is a pre-requisite for holding public office in the new century... 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:24 | 6738053 arbwhore
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Sunday evening gold takedown. Been awhile since we had one of these.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 22:37 | 6738513 Fukushima Fricassee
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Will fail

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:25 | 6738055 Big_Sister_Is_W...
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COMING SOON: "Russian Proposal to Relocate UN to Moscow Being Met With Broad Support!!"

The tide is certainly turning for US dominance... The defense industry is licking their chops... perfect storm being set up... Just need one hell of a good False Flag to scare and anger Americans into buying the next big con.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:41 | 6738378 tenpanhandle
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Put a fucken bag over your avitar, for Christ's sake.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 06:05 | 6738974 Jack Oliver
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Americans are becoming irrelevant and the groundswell of worldwide support for Russia - China and even Iran is enormous - False Flags no longer CUT it - no matter how big - Orwell never envisioned the INTERNET !

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:28 | 6738061 ajkreider
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It's buried in the Spanish papers because the Spanish government is allied with the U.S.?  What kind of stupidity is that?  A) the Spanish papers aren't owned by the state.  B) the Spanish papers criticize the government all the time.

 

A better explanation is that they know their readership - and in particular they knnow their readership really doesn't care. 

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 02:14 | 6738863 Joe A
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Newspapers are owned by the very same people that own the state. Journalist are whorenalist or prestitutes that don't bite the hand that feeds them. A German ZDF whistleblower said a few month ago that a lot of journalists are on the payrole of some intelligence agency. They twist and turn the truth all the time. It is called framing. The worse of course are the editors cause they control what gets published so if there is the usual -short carreered- rogue journalist that is objective the editor makes sure his work does not get published or published in such a way that his message will get burried or not get across. Seymour Hersch said that there is no investigative journalism anymore. Look it up what he said.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:32 | 6738065 exartizo
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The concept of Free News Media is an oxymoron. It possibly (mostly) always was. 

All that exists now is who can tell the most and the biggest lies with some axe to grind.

However one may argue that the world is becoming a Smarter Place in one sense.

At least some people no longer fail to question all that they hear.

 

 

 

 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:40 | 6738086 Big_Sister_Is_W...
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Yes, but when that trend starts to look at all challenging to the Oligarchs, mysterious black holes will start emerging on the internet.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:31 | 6738072 Aquarius
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Global Peace and Human Destiny will only be found with small independent Societies like Catalan, Scotland. etc. Cleansing  and Purging the World of huge ignorant and self-serving bureaucrats, thugs, pedophiles, psychopaths, cultists, "true-believers" and similar criminal ilk, and lest not forget, the Banker servants, polititians, from the managment and control of our governments, will enforce the natural Universal Laws of evolution with greater integrity. A move towards a World of small Societies is a evolution of the dynamics towards our destiny as Humanity. A Bright and truly great Destiny; Providence.

Demand to continue to wallow in the Status Quo of Big Government (for want of a better term)  and you demand your own enslavement and the condemnation of your children and children's children, ad infinitum.

Big Government like the EU and the USA, etc., is Totalitarian serfdom, by default which demands wars, srvants and masters. In other words, continuting destruction of life on out planet.

All big governments, where men of similar intent join in collectives for like purposes of self-agenda, trend, a priori, towards Totalitarianism. Get a Life; Use your heart and choose to evolve into the Future.

http://verbewarp.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/its-not-economy-stupid-its-econ...

Nobody is going to set you free, but yourself. Get over it, and wake the f*ck up!.

Ho hum

 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:37 | 6738077 Big_Sister_Is_W...
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Yes, unfortunately those who prefer agression and dominance tend acquire the most weapons... peace never really has a chance for long.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 22:41 | 6738524 Fukushima Fricassee
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Nope, They get a job with the IRS or some other fucked up governmet agency and order the aggression . The NRA and its members are the peaceful resistance. No justice no peace . E very listen to Peter Tosh,  bitch ?

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:53 | 6738119 Oldwood
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Agree, yet look who is trying to change all that. Look at who wants the big evil western nations to redistribute their wealth to the poorer nations and minimize their power in the world....The UN....which ultimately seeks to be a WORLD GOVERNMENT. Quiet the opposite of a World of Small Societies, don't cha think? Everything from Obama to Putin to climate change, all are drivers of power to the UN, much as random gun violence propels gun control advocates. It is no coincidence after all that Obama has been the singularly best gun salesman in history, all while professing the horror of guns in the hands of the people.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 02:07 | 6738857 Joe A
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That is right, people want self determination.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:37 | 6738080 weisswurst
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Little late now, Ban.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:38 | 6738081 buzzsaw99
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the u.n. ain't shit

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:39 | 6738084 alfred b.
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....and why exactly is Ban Ki not stating this @ the UN hq in NY??  

 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:58 | 6738128 Oldwood
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Because those who seek to create destructive chaos in the world find it most effective to speak from both sides of their mouths. It's not enough to simply lie, but to lie to everyone about everything so that no one knows what you really believe, making it so much easier to ignore the whole mess.Confusion, chaos, not having any idea what the rules are, who is in charge, who is your friend nd who is your enemy.....and I STILL don't know if milk is good for me or not...or coffee....or meat, or eggs or fucking ANYTHING!

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:42 | 6738092 Lumberjack
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The effort will now be to provoke Russia at all cost. Be forewarned.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:48 | 6738106 williambanzai7
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Sta away from nail guns.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 02:06 | 6738855 Joe A
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He wouldn't be the first UN secretary general that was assassinated.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 19:58 | 6738123 yomutti
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The headline of this article really proves that ZH is completely paid-for Russian propoganda tool. Ban-ki Moon's actual quote said nothing remotely like the headline. It just said that the Syrian situation should be put to bed, whether that involves the departure of Assad or not. It did not "imply" any of the crap spouted so copiously in the article.

This statement is neither pro-US or anti-US. It only suggests that the question of Assad's departure shoudl be settled by a legitimate vote. Since Ban knows full well that Assad would lose a fair election by a landslide, this amounts to an endorsement of Assad's departure. (but not an endorsement of the US using force ot make it happen)

 

Note to Russians: I know you're new to this whole democracy thing. But you will be surprised to learn that it's not considered a "fair" election if your whole family gets killed for voting the worng way. By this standard, there has never been a fair election in the entire recorded history of Syria.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:08 | 6738157 Aquarius
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Just a small note: Voting is Meaningless, as Government always wins.

Ho hum

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:39 | 6738234 Cycle
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Yawn.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 02:05 | 6738853 Joe A
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5 weeks and still trolling.

"Since Ban knows full well that Assad would lose a fair election by a landslide..."

A poll conducted by Le Figaro shows that 70% of Syrians want Assad to stay. Of course the people interviewed were afraid that Assad or Putin were listening in....

http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2015/10/29/01003-20151029QCMWWW0012...

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:06 | 6738129 NubianSundance
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Mon, 11/02/2015 - 11:25 | 6739595 Gohigher
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+ 1 for the Weather Report song reference. One of my favorites from that era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5TCx-wBux0

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:04 | 6738140 blown income
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The Monkey in the white house needs to be shot !!!!!!!!!!!

 

Death to the monkey  in the name of peace!!!!

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:14 | 6738172 Urban Redneck
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The Monkey in the White House© was George H.W. Bush.  There was something in the propaganda media the other day about 41 being so demented now that he has resorted to flinging shoes and shit when he sees Trump on TV.   

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 12:22 | 6739816 chilller
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Prolly who told Jeb to say Trump couldn't be trusted with nuclear codes....man...how over the top was that bird shit statement! Blew up in his face...

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:14 | 6738170 Aquarius
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“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”  -  William Casey, CIA Director 1981-1987

 

The above stolen from here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-01/what-heck-going-here#comment-67...

seems apt.

 

Ho hum

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:15 | 6738176 yagbols
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Showing his true color that Koreans really do hate blacks.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:40 | 6738223 Exalt
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It's not like the US ever gave a shit about the UN. The US is a rogue state and we the UN should lead in sanctions against the US for sponsoring terrorism. The biggest threat to security globally in the US so why are we still trading with these guys?

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:06 | 6738283 o r c k
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The US a Rogue State ? An excellent twist and accurate too. I truly can't get over what's happening in this Country. For 6 decades I've thought that the U.S. was very flawed but still had the best "general idea" about the worth of individuals. From "duck and cover" to "one small step" to the twin towers (that I remember seeing just rising from the ground circa 1970) the U.S. has gone MAD. And by the end of this we may well see that our destruction was after all, mutually assured.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 07:12 | 6739026 Exalt
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It's an incredibly ironic term. No wonder the US stopped using it.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 20:56 | 6738269 Bay Area Guy
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Allow the Syrian people to decide who runs Syria? Imagine that.

US, just get and stay the fuck out of the MENA. You and your Western buddies have screwed that place up for at least my entire 60 years on this planet.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:07 | 6738287 dark pools of soros
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are there any left?

 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:04 | 6738278 Raul44
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Still its a good thing that somebody from UN actually says that.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:29 | 6738303 Phoenix901210
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I know, I empathise, I despair when I talk to some people. In fact, I have almost never talked to a person who is really informed despite having attended 'university' studying 'politics and sociology'.

People are a mix: Full on establishment, Snowden is a criminal, the NSA did nothing illegal, Assad is a butcher. Same amount of brainwashed with a different ethical leaning. Assad is wrong and must go, what was said on BBCQuestion time is correct and I support the left, hate the 'rich' without discrimination or substance (but not the establishment) and know a miniscule amount more than the first type. Then there is the type that kind of combines with the first. They simply... Don't care about any of it.

I literally feel like... What am I doing on this planet? Or I know what I am doing here but it's clear I'm different because I... THINK and read and whatnot.

Don't even get me STARTED on the stock market.

Facebook status I just posted: Several months ago, I was talking with someone who was happy with stocks and said to me 'If you had x amount what would you do with it.' Thinking I was saying, 'well, I would probably invest in gold or bitcoin.' He goes to me... 'You would invest in STOCKS because STOCKS are a good option, stocks are good profit. YOU WOULD INVEST IN STOCKS'... I didn't quite know what to say about that.

Well, FTSE 100 lost a seventh of its value and are on a climb up but will plummet again. Bitcoin has soared. I would have made money on bitcoin and lost on stocks.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:38 | 6738374 DOGGONE
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Hey there ...
http://showrealhist.com

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:14 | 6738306 Teh Finn
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Well there you go.  The figurehead of the most corrupt, rapey, worthless institution in the history of humanity has endorsed the tiny tyrant.

I guess y'all got that going for ya.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:24 | 6738335 NoWayJose
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Russia should press this in front of the full UN. The U.S. has few friends left and a resolution to keep uninvited countries out of Syria would pass easily.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:35 | 6738359 DOGGONE
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Example of "The public be suckered" is this massive deception by omission:
http://showrealhist.com

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:42 | 6738381 johmack2
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I keep saying while i dont believe in karma, America is working pretty hard to make sure it exists.

 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 21:46 | 6738388 swamp
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The evil doers purposefully destroy civilian infastructure so Haliburton can go in and rebuild on a no bid contract. Hahaha Russia will be doing the rebuilding and the jew bankers have been tossed out of the ME.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 22:28 | 6738490 o r c k
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Yep, all they need is a new Government.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 22:01 | 6738427 theyjustcantstop
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just read up on the vote trading going on to get u.k., and s.a. on the un human rights council.

 Obama wanted bush brought up on charges at the un.

Clinton 2016, Obama Nuremberg 2017, payback, and more NWO power.

 

 

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 22:27 | 6738487 Kprime
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at first glance I thought it said,  Ban Ki-Moon Condoms.

Sun, 11/01/2015 - 22:59 | 6738568 TheAntiProgressive
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Hey Ki-Mooney, listen baby, you can't talk like that about our Nobel Peace Prize president.  I don't see your prize.  Who do you think you are?

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 00:15 | 6738719 J Mahoney
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Now thats a legacy buzz-kill for the POTUS---maybe the Nobel committee will be asking him for the peace prize back later in the week----Ohhh make my day

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 00:22 | 6738727 onmail1
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Obama must go.

David Cameron must go.

Kerry must go.

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This is how it looks reasonable to ask for a forced change of government of another country. (though all above stand good) It s the cabal banksters & corporates who are puppeteering cabalA$$LickerLiarHomObama into all these ignoble & evil propositions.

This lacks all moral sense, looks like too much of weed & dope has gotten into the head of cabalA$$LickerLiarHomObama or his brain has been eaten away by syphilis due to perverted homo$exual activities as it did to Hitler & his insane guru Nietzsche.

Satan America  has become too much full of pride, thinking that it owns the whole world. This needs to be broken.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 02:38 | 6738883 SSRI Junkie
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I Moon Bank, i solved the word jumble (Ban Ki-Moon)

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 08:23 | 6739097 yepyep
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NWO puppet condemns NWO puppet, why even report what these degenerates say anymore who cares.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 12:38 | 6739889 FrankDrakman
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Fellows, this is an honest to god question:

At what point did Assad become 'evil'? I remember reading about him in the late 80's - the almost western head of a ME nation, he dresses in suits, downplays religion, welcomes Christians, etc.

So when did he become an evil dictator? Anyone have a time frame, cause?

Or is this all ostracism because he played the US off against the USSR?

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 18:57 | 6741502 raybies
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Maybe it's time to give Obumer another Nobel peace prize.

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