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Homicide Rates Cut In Half Over Past 20 Years (While New Gun Ownership Soared)
Submitted by Ryan McMaken via The Mises Institute,
The Pew Research Center reported last week that the murder rate was cut nearly in half from 7 per 100,000 in 1993 to 3.6 per 100,000 in 2013. Over the same period, overall gun deaths (including accidents and suicides) have fallen by one-third from 15.2 to 10.6 per 100,000.
In spite of this, Pew reports, the American public believes that homicides and gun deaths are increasing in the United States. Those who think violence is getting worse should probably watch less television and look around them instead. The murder rate in the US is currently similar to 1950s levels.
Meanwhile, the number of privately owned guns (and gun commerce in general) in the United States has increased substantially in recent decades.
Source: Firearms Commerce in the US, Annual Statistical Update. (From BATF)
According to the World Bank, here are the homicide rates in the US since 1995:
Here's the homicide rate graphed against total new firearms (manufactured plus imported) in US (indexed with 1995 =100):
Meanwhile, in Mexico, where the US Consulate counsels Americans to not even carry pocket knives in the face of "Mexico’s strict weapons laws." There is exactly one gun store in Mexico. In short, the Mexican experience is a perfect example of the effect of prohibition. A lack of legal access to guns leads to a need for illegal access.
The murder rates in Mexico:
Mexican politicians complain that weapons are easily smuggled from the United States, and that is the source of their problem. But if access to guns is the problem, shouldn't murder rates be much higher in the United States? Moreover, if gun smuggling is such a problem in Mexico, this is just another piece of evidence showing the weakness of prohibition laws in preventing access to the intended target of prohibition.
Naturally, we can't blame everything on gun prohibition in Mexico, nor can we attribute the murder rate decline solely to more guns in the US. But we can say two things for sure: (1) Gun restriction in Mexico has not prevented enormous increases in the murder rate, and (2) increases in gun totals in the US have not led to a surge in the murder rate.
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Mexico is exactly what the elites want.
Guns kill and don't stop crime, only idiots want them. Gun owners are mostly uneducated fools. /sarc
So, you are saying that more guns = less murder because people can shoot back?
Brilliant.
No, no, no, no...It just means that America is a normal country with normal people and 300 normal school shootings per year.
Better check back with the Marxist mothership before making that argument again. Another branch of the Marxist cadre uses 'global overpopulation' as justification for its existence.
http://zachmortensen.net/2013/01/10/gun-control-four-must-see-graphs/
Gun is not kill people, but beat down pistol whip is sure hurting!
Indeed, comrade!
here's a graph showing the knockout punch rate with increased diversity over time...seems to be increasing but I'm no expert:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AJfyWCs26uQ/U13O3mec8hI/AAAAAAAAD2Y/mlvaB_FITG...
A masked man walked into the store and currency exchange about 7 p.m. Saturday on the city's southwest side, displayed a handgun and announced a robbery to an employee, police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said. The gunman then pointed his weapon at another employee and forced her to the back of the store.
The armed customer then fatally shot the man, identified Sunday by the Cook County medical examiner's office as 55-year-old Reginald Gildersleeve.
http://news.yahoo.com/police-concealed-carry-license-holder-kills-armed-...
Moar info from another source:
... the dead guy's name was Reginald Gildersleeve, 55, with a long arrest record who was out on bond . He had prior convictions for robbery. As expected , the dead guy's family says he could not have done what was reported in the story.....
50 years old, not once has he contributed to society, but he's most likely lived off the tax payer money for decades only to die still having been a net negative burden on society.
Let me guess why they didn't mention the man's race, because he was black.
If some idiots want to 'diversify' a country, why not Israel, China, Russia, India, or Pakistan? They NEED more niggers.
If I were king of the world, I'd force everyone to buy a gun. Those who refused would be put to death by firing squad. So let it be written; so let it be done.
Your blog is repetitive and boring.
Please spam it somewhere else.
Ding!Ding!Ding! We have a winner! Hand NidStyles a cigar!
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/11/robert-farago/meet-reginald-gil...
looks like you are correct (shocker) http://www.newslocker.com/en-us/region/cleveland/chicago-man-pulls-gun-t...
Reggie dindu nuffin.
Worked untill he died. 401k musta gone to shit.
Sandy Hook and most of the rest are fake,propaganda to push Obama's gun confiscation.Why would there even need to be freedom of information hearings if Sandy Hook was real ?
No real, amateur videos means it was probably faked. Umpqua CC sticks out to me as the most recent staged event. All of the staged MSM photos showed the students being searched with their smart phones in their hands. Yet, no real video.
Hand guns are most important(75%) for self defense.
http://www.prep-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/FBI-15.gif
The government has farmed out capital punishment to armed individuals who are forced to defend themselves.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/US_executions.png
Happened in my home town, and I have to tell you, if it was faked, then the government had all the families, local police, several hundred other first responders, teachers, funeral homes etc. inside the conspiracy and prepped with world class acting skills and rapidly evolving data and imagery falsification skills. If so, They fooled the whole town, and much of southwestern CT, in person to person contact.
These idiots can't even run a website with billions of dollars, but we wish to credit them with this impossible degree of operational sophistication?
Don't make it any easier on the government by playing the role of radical nutjob for them. Huge conspiracies are not necessary in order to realize there is dangerous deep state corruption afoot. It is an affront to the people whose lives were destroyed by the shooter and further insulted by the people who ran to wave their children's bloody shirts around.
What puzzles me about Sandy Hook was the lack of crime scene photos. Showing spent .223/5.56 cartridges would have confirmed an AR-15 was used (Yes, I know AR's are now in multiple calibers). Photos of the bullet holes in walls would have also given some clues. Even pics of recovered slugs. On top of that they tore the building down. Also, what about the guy who was running in the woods behind the shcool dressed in similar clothing to the shooter? Again, I'm just raising questions and not trying to make a case.
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They're gun free zones.
Mr. Troy oz 5 years and 29 weeks.
How is it possible to have 300 school shootings per year if schools are GUN FREE ZONES? Cripes, a normal person might think that gun free zones don't work!
"In spite of this, Pew reports, the American public believes that homicides and gun deaths are increasing in the United States."
This is the fault of the ministry of truth, America's vile propaganda system, the mainstream media. Owned by only 6 corporations the MSM is only interested in social engineering, not the facts.
I watched the NBC nightly news tonight for the first time in 20 years. What a crazy, confusing matrix most Americans live in. Given the "information" most Americans receive, they cannot be counted on to render sound judgment on important issues.
Agree. It's never been more unsafe to walk through a downtown area or out of a mall with your Air Jordans then it is right now.
Streets are more unsafe then ever imo.
When my wife and I took our first vacation EVER in 2012, we got lost in Philadelphia and wandered around trying to find a cop to show us how to get back. Met a black lady, maybe in her forties, and she told us we had to get out of where we were. No idea where we were, but she lead us down the street and pointed up a road and told us to up six blocks and turn left.
Same Trip, we're in Washington, DC. We're coming back from our Segway Tour and got on the wrong subway. We ended up at a stop where we were two grains of salt in a sea of pepper. We're studying the map trying to figure out where we went wrong. This hulking kid, about 20 or so, comes over. You can't be here, it's not good for you. This area is bad for white people. I said thanks, we're really lost and need to get back to the Capitol Hilton. He walked us to the platform and told us how to get there. Then stayed with us until we got on the train. Nice Kid.
Same Trip, New York City. All I know is I want to be able to say I went to Central Park once in my lifetime. So we took a subway and got off at some point. Asked a lady walking by which way was Central Park. She pointed to the left. So we trudged about ten blocks and got to the sign that said Central Park. It was about 11 PM. Wife asked if we were going in. FUCK NO! We're here, this is close enough, let's head back.
Got a bus to Times Square, strolled through it at midnight...then took a subway back to where we were staying (place still had a manual elevator). Come up out of the hole and ask a cop which way was whatever street it was. He pointed without even looking at me. Wife and I start walking. We're going down a dark secondary street, people are outside, generally standing or sitting. Wife is bitching about sore feet, being lost, and we're going to get mugged. We come to a sign that say's 'Hudson River'. Well, then, I knew we were going the wrong direction. So we turned around and walked back to the near the corner of Park Avenue and found the hotel.
It didn't help that the Segway Tour resulted in me breaking my right big toe.
Big cities are the head of an abscessed infection, full of rot and puss. Sure, it is adorned with pretty colors, but it is the core, the epicenter of a sepsis that will eventually run through the veins of our society. Our immune system has been weakened, body wide, by the constant push to ingest the poisons of socialism and multiculturalism.
Just remember to exercise your 2nd Amendment as you are walking. It's disgusting that there are areas that 'are not good for white people'. Philly and NYC have some of the highest taxes and most restrictive gun ownership 'laws' in the nation. I can only conclude that some level of government WANTS those areas to be 'not good for white people'. Now can you imagine the uproar if there were areas of those cities that 'are not good for niggers'?
Never confuse the progressive liberal democraps with facts or da troof...
Never confuse the progressive liberal democraps with facts or da troof...
Bill of Rights. Bam!
Mexican politicians complain that weapons are easily smuggled from the United States, and that is the source of their problem.
So Trump is correct. Mexico will pay for a wall.
Why would the Mexican officials cut off their tools and source of income?
Well duh!
Has everyone forgot the Fast and Furious,,, my how good that fluoride works!
Gun-buyers, many of whom the feds suspected were criminals, were permitted to take firearms purchased in the U.S. and walk into Mexico without interference from agents; the intention was that once the guns were sold to powerful drug cartels, the ATF would later trace the firearms. Whistleblowers and investigators, however, found no attempt to trace the guns.
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/barack-obama-scandal-atf-fast-and-furious/2014/12/28/id/613434/#ixzz3qIDYHVVxIf you put up a wall, someone will dig a tunnel. . .
An absolute horseshit post.
The percentage of Americans who own a firearm has decreased substantially over the past few decades.
All of the above charts reflect the lunatic purchases, of...well, lunatics who think Obama is gonna take their guns.
Good luck in the near future, "lunatics" are gonna look smart, while you end up dead. Enjoy the obama camp, let me know how the food is.
Baa Baaaa...
Your bleating is drowning out your argument.
Argue for your limitations and they're yours...
DaddyO
Did you forget a /sarc in your post???
Silver Bullet, shut off your TV. It has melted your frontal lobes.
If you shut it off you may recover. Partially.
Frontal AND backal.
I up voted you because you spell and punctuate really well for a retard.
It is a horse shit post.
High crime rates were caused by lead in gasoline. Once lead is removed from gasoline, crime drops. It has has dropped everywhere after lead has been removed from gasoline. Doesn't matter the country. Remove lead from gasoline, and 18 years later, crime rates drop. Seems low level lead poisioning causes slight brain damage which results in people losing control more easily. Once the non-lead poisioned adolescents begin replacing poisoned children, crime starts.to go down.
That's what happened in the US. It wasn't guns, better policing, or harsher justice that caused all crimes to go down. It was the end of lead in gas.
Concerning guns, less Americans own them, but the people who own them own more of them. Still has nothing to do with the crime rate.
Yeah, correlation is not causation. When you have mutliple factors, you can look for corroborating evidence.
Like maybe, well I wonder what would happen if everywbody was armed? Are there any countries like that? Turns out there is, Switzerland, whcih just happens to have about the lowest crime rates of all types in the civilized world. Waddayathink about that?
The Swiss give almost every military age person a military weapon, but keep all military ammunition locked in central locations. They also forbid keeping military ammunition in homes.
So unless you are claiming there is low crime in Switzerland because criminals might be clubbed with a military rifle, your comment makes little sense.
If people think the guns will be confiscated, why would they buy more of them with background checks and all?
Didn't give your interesting theory a lot of thought, did you?
if you have a concealed carry permit, you skip the background checks
This is false. Having a CCW does not allow you to bypass background checks when purchasing a gun. Go spread your mis-information elsewhere.
In SC, having the concealed carry permit shortens the paperwork, and you dont have to wait while the shop makes the phone call to the Feds. Only b/c they have the info they need from the CWP card.
Exemptions for Permit Holders: Federal law allows individuals who hold certain firearms-related permits issued by state or local governments (such as concealed weapons permits) to bypass the federally-required background check. This exemption — the so-called “Brady exemption” — allows some prohibited persons to acquire firearms when a state permit holder falls into a prohibited category after issuance of the state permit and the state fails to immediately revoke the permit.
I don’t know what state you live in, but I live in CT. I got my CCW over 20 yrs ago. Since I got it, NO BACKGROUND CHECKS when adding to my firearm collection. I show my CCW to the clerk, they write down the number in the requisite spot on the purchasing forms. There is no wait, no new background check, and I walk out with my new handgun or long gun right then and there.
That is not true. I have a permit & have had to go through a background check each time.
Where did you get your information? TeeVee?
If you live in the right state you don't need to undergo a nics check everytime you buy a gun if you have a ccw...my state qualifies for the exemption from the nics check
https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/permanent-brady-permit-chart
That is not true. I have a permit & have had to go through a background check each time.
Where did you get your information? TeeVee?
Scooby,
Yes it is true, it depends on the state you reside in.
CCP laws vary state to state.It's the states purview.The Feds DO NOT require someone already background checked, and finger printed to have to go thru the BS of a a NICS check.Electronic records are illegal, as far as the ATF is concerened,on what you own,buy.
The only time they are LEGALLY supposed to take info of your purchase/s, is if it was used in a crime.The Dealers make EVERYONE fill out a 4473 Form,for every purchase.It's a hard copy and IT STAYS at that Dealer,until that dealer goes out of business.
It's illegal for the ATF to keep electronic records of each purchase of what you purchase serial #(that's de facto registraion).
The Dealer must fill out a SECOND special form a Multiple sales report(and include it with the 4473) if anyone,anywhere buys more than one/hangun/semi auto rifle(.22cal and above) at one time.
No one actually believes they will surrender their arms. Background checks are not the same thing as registration. Dealers do not turn their records in to the government unless they go out of business. And as stated, CHL holders do not require even a check.
Again this is false. Try some other forum for fear-mongering.
In SC, the gun shop where you take possession of the firearm must keep a physical record (I believe it has to be electronic now) of your purchase, your name, and where you live. So yes, when they come for the guns, they will have your address from the time when you purchased the weapon. One can reasonably say we have registration now. The next step will be mandating an annual inspection where the stormtroopers search your whole house as a side bonus and maybe a head shrink gives you an on-site evaluation. We're getting close to critical decision time. Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?!?
Though a Marine, for thirty years I declined gun ownership because I didn't want to risk an accident with my kids. I won a Boy Scout silent auction for a 1911 model .45 pistol (one I trained with in the Marines). I absolutely suck at pistols. My grouping at thirty yards is paper plate sized. Dad bought me an M-1 .30, I asked him to keep it at his house, I now have a grandson. .45 is comfortably near, loaded. Went to the range and still shot the ass off a fly at 100 yards. Blew my oldest son, 12 years in Afghanistan away, he thought I was all talk.
September of this year, I bought an AR-15, dad found a bunch of 30 round magazines at a yard sale. I'd been buying in Florida on trips to wife's family. Now, my eyesight isn't what it used to be so I had a red dot sight installed. I can't find my membership card to the gun range, currently, so that AR hasn't even been fired. I recognize that I need a refresher on DOPE and the range offers that. So that will be the first live fire of this new rifle.
I'm arming up because I'm getting old. There was a time I had the arms of a gorilla, but getting those arms led to me now having nerve damage and constant pain. I can no longer rip your head off and shit down your neck.
But I can hit an egg from three hundred yards with the M-1.
"The percentage of Americans who own a firearm has decreased substantially over the past few decades. "
Maybe you are confusing your statement with: The percentage of Americans that admit they own a firearm is declining. When cold-called by a pollster, would you tick off a list of your firearms? Heck, even my wife has practiced her shtick so well that she can recite it while in pain. Early last month I had to admit her to the hospital for emergency gallbladder surgery. When the nurse ran through the questionnaire and asked about guns in the house, she rolled her eyes and said "why would I need a gun when I have 911 programmed into all of my phones?". Gotta love a woman who can still think clearly while doubled over in agony in the ER!
Awesome.
All of the above charts reflect the lunatic purchases, of...well, lunatics who think Obama is gonna take their guns.
Maybe so but it also reflects that there are some bad people who know their intended victim just might be packing.
Interesting that in 2001 when the gun ownership wend down, the murder rate went up...
"This breaking news just in: Decrease in murder rates obvioulsy due to better race relations since Obama became president despite increase in gun ownership by racist white men making American more dangerous. More news from your MSM channel at 11."
Can someone break down the gun ownership and gun death statistics by race?
dont forget to define the 'white hispanic' cohort.
FBI
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the...
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the...
We could but the Feds decided that was racist, so they stopped reporting by race, however we have decades of real evidence that there is a huge difference according to race. Something like 4 out 5 murders are committed by blacks on blacks or whites.
The fudgepacker I its skin sandpaper off, buried in salt then thrown out in the middle of an Iranian desert with a can of Pennzoil.
less homicide means things are more awesome than we silly folks think they are
bullish
The cops will pick up the slack
I would be more interested to see homicide rates tracked against the 15-25 age population size. Or homicide rates tracked against some sort of police corruption proxy, as in the police hide the numbers to get promotions...
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the...
Check out the bottom of that chart. Don't fuck with old white men. They'll just shoot your ass.
Don't screw with young black men, they'll cap your ass for a stink eye.
As far as i'm concerned, we don't even need to have this discussion. I'm not turning shit in & Obama and his handlers can eat shit, fuck off and DIE.
I started showing my coworkers the truth and they ave started buying guns.One guy just bought a scar .308,do they really think people are just going to turn in a $3k rifle ?
I think they know outright confiscation won't work, it's all their other shitty ideas you have to be concerned about: holding mfg's liable for deaths, shutting down lead mfg's, huge taxes on gunpowder, etc etc etc they probably have an entire fucking enclycolpedia of ideas by now.
"shutting down lead mfg's"
Well, good corporations have learned to adapt and overcome.
Case in point: http://www.polycaseammo.com/project/inceptor-arx
The ballistics look pretty encouraging. When they offer these bullets to the reloader I may have to just try some out! I wonder how long it will take Lee or Lyman to come out with load data though. I have tried the Hogdgons online load data and always seem to end up with +++P loadings. Not always what you want.
What I want to know is why the murder rate skyrocketed in Mexico after the financial crisis.
Couldn't be because it became harder to export Mexico's low-IQ, violence-prone population to the States once demand for cheap day labour dried up, surely?
Or maybe Mexico started adding lead to the water supply. That's what our masters are blaming the high murder rates of the Seventies and Eighties on these days, right?
Dass Raciss.
Because the drug trade slowed down during the crisis. Means the Cartels had lay off people,a dn that means they had to kill them, because you can't work for an organization like that and just "leave".
"because you can't work for an organization like that and just "leave". "
Well, we need to educate them about workers rights and the need for entitlements reform! Couldn't they just move to California and apply for unemployment though?
This article is total bs. Look at Ireland, 1.2 deaths per 100,000 and guns are illegal.
Maybe it is the fact that Mexico drug cartels supply all the drugs to the US and that trade is an enormous and corrupting influence on Mexican society.
Ireland really, their laws are restrictive even by European standards
The fucking Irish are too busy downing pints of Guiness to be messing around with guns and shit.
Maybe we should import some of our "Racial Diversity" and give them something to do?
Wasn't too long ago that micks were a problem.
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-28870685/
Take out the liberal cities and the murder rate plunges.
like Detroit, Chicago, Memphis, Atlanta, Los Angeles and SanFran ? just for starters. Likely the entire state of Kawleefornya.
They will all implode completely under their own weight eventually. Now we are simply seeing the beginnings of those events and recognizing it as chaos or a break down. It will all gain its own inertia going forward.
Take out redneck states and gdp per capita soars
Mexico is a failed state where power is used as/more effectively by the drug cartels as the 'organized' government. Did the US create the cartels? No. Did the CIA and other US .gov agencies arm the cartels? Yes. Did the US military train the Mexican military, some of whom formed the Zetas? Yes.
It isn't just mexico btw.
It's almost all of south America.
Made helpless and rioting every other week in frustration.
Switzerland is 0.6 and they all own fully functional assault rifles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_...
So... Maybe... the murder rate, has absolutely nothing to do with guns at all. With gun bans being zombie level of thinking.
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." - H. L. Mencken
I would think the the true cause and effect function at work in this discussion is the fact that Americans are incarecerated in huge numbers meaning that many of them have been ..... sadly for them ..... seperated from their guns.
Exactly! The MSM will never admit this worked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-strikes_law
Now BHO is releasing 6000+ 'non-violent' drug offenders. We won't have to wait 3 months to hear about one killing someone. Most likely, another drug dealer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o--S_5tffY
Well, there's an interesting title to a stat...INTENTIONAL HOMICIDES PER 100,000. Just for shits & giggles I looked it up, Sierra Leone and the Bahamas are running neck & neck...lol.
Fun with stats, enjoy your next vacation ;-)
Homicide rates aka violent crime are corelated to lead exposure more than anything else, and not the kind that comes out of a gun barrel:
http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/74298000/gif/_74298891_l...
And ice cream sales are correlated with homicides. So dont forget to ban ice cream!
Modern treatments have virtually eradicated Athlete's Foot and odor.
Why should one group in society be allowed guns and not the rest?
Think carefully before you answer.
Because they seek control OF the society.
Because we're all equal under the rainbow flag of fruit flavor. It's just that some are more equal than others.
Well - this news will never be read in the White House.
They tried a new angle tonight on 60 Minutes. The Smart Gun ( fingerprint needed to operate ) Law. Most multiple-victim shootings have happened on School property. Maybe they will try and ban education next. /sarc
Education has been banned and replaced with indoctrination.
If they only had a gun on them...
Some may have.
But its not like hit men anounce they are about to knock you off, and big pharma can afford the best.
If your rigor mortis lasts more than four hours contact your mortician.
Lol. Pharmacudial warning for lead bullion.
They were extolling Turmeric as a cancer treatment.
Research into preventing cancer
A phase I clinical trial looked at giving curcumin to 25 patients with pre cancerous changes in different organs. This study seemed to show that curcumin could stop the precancerous changes becoming cancer.
Research has also shown that there are low rates of certain types of cancer in countries where people eat curcumin at levels of about 100 to 200 mg a day over long periods of time.
This is one of the dead doctors.
Dr. Mitchell Gaynor - Protect Yourself Against Cancer P1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vgZ4SK1QEkInflammation, causing cells to expand and then shrink/contract, leaving scar formation that is initially described as a "cyst" (as a burn would leave) is what many experts have blamed on causing our cells to go haywire. The less cellular activity, the better. Perfect health would be a lean body, diet that is similar and provides the necessary nutrients/minerals and calories. Inflammation could come from infection but also water retention from high salt meal and then later, dehydration when collecting system attempts to flush this substance from body.
Add to the constant damage/repair cycle, toxic indigestable substances, fluoride, aluminum from deodorant, and god knows what else they are lacing our food/water with, and we have a literal land mine rather than a "temple" for our soul. Experiment in a laboratory with vast sums available to fund it and the secrecy required to commit murder by proxy is what I see when I take the time to consider the whole picture.
A burn does not leave a cyst Mr Bot.
The populations of the Middle Ages led a full life as you imagine, and were generally laid to rest before age 45.
If one of these doctors were LGBTQ (did I miss a letter?) this would be headline news and at the top of every news web page as a "hate crime". There would also be an outcry about civil rights violations. Otherwise, we never hear about this.
More Guns, Less Crime by John Lott
http://www.amazon.com/More-Guns-Less-Crime-Understanding/dp/0226493660/r...
Most people are probably aware of this seminal book but I thought I would put it out there.
I really don't care about statistics or the media. I live in China but back in the USA I have a vault that is completely full of every type of weapon imaginable including many NFA weapons and enough ammunition to last for generations. I don't give a Fuck what anyone thinks, they are mine and I will keep them until I die. After that they go into a Trust for future generations. My guns have not killed anyone. All of the people I have killed have all been with weapons issued to me by the US government.
I enjoy these threads, it outs a lot of retards.
An Armed Society is a Polite Society. Someone explain this to the Liberal Fuck-Tards please. Most of them are mentally challenged.
So that's why they hate guns. Progressives and other assorted lefties are the rudest people in America.
The pen is mightier than the sword.
Especially when that pen is wielded by a sociopathic fifth estate such as our faux news channels.
We should be celebrating our lives, instead the media has us closing down and justifying our darker feeling toward our neighbours.
Naw, the media wants you to be as gay as possible.
I am rather gay at the moment, now that you mention it.
More Kardashian high jinks in the morning news.
"The pen is mightier than the sword."
Ahhh yes! The "penis mightier"! What a classic SNL skit.
http://funnyjunk.com/movies/8806/Snl/
Still, the US has one of the highest murder rates...
prove it, with real numbers
Why ? So you can see that you doing slightly better than Burundi, Mexico and Colombia ?!
It's a good thing that the Authorities were able to protect themselves:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-01/partner-chinas-carl-icahn-execu...
Third from the top, but take out Detroit Chicacgo Balitmore and New Orleans and the US is 3rd from the bottom, liberal paradise gun ban cities are the problem, not the guns.
Gang and drug related killings will soon be going up thanks to Obamas justice departments release of 6000 criminals who they claim were given too severe sentences. I;d bet most of those being released will end up back selling drugs and joining gangs and ofc killing innocents.
Yup, that does define 'crock of shit' in my dictionary.
Of course, because the propagandists now jump on every gun crime and make them front page news so it SEEMS like gun violence is out of control as they run interference for the ZWO and it's efforts to disarm us. Truth is inconvenient and doesn't fit in with the plan.
Baby boomers (I'm 68) are getting too old for that nonsense anymore. Those who did that stuff when they were younger are probably dead or in prison. Most of us were just too busy making a living and raising kids to get out of line. But watch out if too much is stolen from us via the banksters or their government cohorts We've still got a nasty streak in us if we're pushed too far. (and we're close to that line in the sand now.)
Actually all crime has dropped since video game consoles came out - result more Medal of Honor / Halo and less kids in real gangs resulting in less gang crime.
Fail!!! Homicides don't list accidental deaths and suicides due to guns .
mainstream media - read it, do the opposite, believe the opposite
There's a logical problem here. At one point they're comparing gun ownership (people having guns) with lower homicide rate. But in the México case they don't compare gun ownerships (legal or not) to murder. I bet those murders in México weren't done by clubbing people with golf irons...
1gangster shoots 50 civilians.
Arm the 50 civilians, 51 guns now &
1 dead gangster.
People talk about in Soviet Russia blah blah blah.
Fact is, Russia last year dramatically liberalised gun ownership specifically to cut the murder rate. Gangs are running riot in Russia currently and by liberalising gun ownership now means anyone can own a shotgun. It's going to make the lives of gang members much shorter.
After 5 years of owning a shotgun (presumably without incident), you can buy and own a rifle. So in 5 years you're going to have a populace who have access to high powered small arms.
This isn't the act of a dictator or authoritarian btw. It's quite the opposite.
I thought this had been cleared up years ago. The crime rate dropped because all the unwanted special snowflakes got aborted.
http://freakonomics.com/2005/05/15/abortion-and-crime-who-should-you-bel...
Two very vocal critics, Steve Sailer and John Lott, have been exerting a lot of energy lately trying to convince the world that the abortion reduces crime hypothesis is not correct. A number of readers have asked me to respond to these criticisms. First, let’s start by reviewing the basic facts that support the Donohue-Levitt hypothesis that legalized abortion in the 1970s explains a substantial part of the crime decline in the 1990s:
1) Five states legalized abortion three years before Roe v. Wade. Crime started falling three years earlier in these states, with property crime (done by younger people) falling before violent crime.
2) After abortion was legalized, the availability of abortions differed dramatically across states. In some states like North Dakota and in parts of the deep South, it was virtually impossible to get an abortion even after Roe v. Wade. If one compares states that had high abortion rates in the mid 1970s to states that had low abortion rates in the mid 1970s, you see the following patterns with crime. For the period from 1973-1988, the two sets of states (high abortion states and low abortion states) have nearly identical crime patterns. Note, that this is a period before the generations exposed to legalized abortion are old enough to do much crime. So this is exactly what the Donohue-Levitt theory predicts. But from the period 1985-1997, when the post Roe cohort is reaching peak crime ages, the high abortion states see a decline in crime of 30% relative to the low abortion states. Our original data ended in 1997. If one updated the study, the results would be similar.)
3) All of the decline in crime from 1985-1997 experienced by high abortion states relative to low abortion states is concentrated among the age groups born after Roe v. Wade. For people born before abortion legalization, there is no difference in the crime patterns for high abortion and low abortion states, just as the Donohue-Levitt theory predicts.
4) When we compare arrest rates of people born in the same state, just before and just after abortion legalization, we once again see the identical pattern of lower arrest rates for those born after legalization than before.
5) The evidence from Canada, Australia, and Romania also support the hypothesis that abortion reduces crime.
6) Studies have shown a reduction in infanticide, teen age drug use, and teen age childbearing consistent with the theory that abortion will reduce other social ills similar to crime.
Most abortions are performed on niggers; niggers commit disproportionate crime; this makes some sense, in a marvellously ghoulish way.
So if we have forced abortion for all pregnancies we could get the crime rate down to zero. How does that correlate?
Minus the murders in cities where you have stricked gun laws and suddenly the murder rate is cut to almost zero. Yet those cities and murders are never talked about by Obama and the anti gun crowd.
Stats are stats, but the anti-gunners wear blinders. The homicide rate per 100,000 is cut in half in twenty years. How can any rational thinking person arue with that?
The facts are well documented more and more people ESP women are buying weapons, and more and more are taking up shooting, and shooting sports every year.
S&W, RUGERS sales are OFF the chain and have been every year since the Mooslim n Thief took office.He's taken the crown away from CLITon,in that regard.Also, the AR STYLE rifle is now the most used,most owned, and most popular rifle in public use.