Infrared Satellite Reveals Heat Flash At Time Of Russian Airplane Disaster

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Earlier today, we highlighted commentary from Russia’s Kogalymavia (the airline operating the ill-fated Airbus A321 which crashed in the Sinai Peninsula) where officials said human and technical factors weren’t responsible for the mid-air disaster which killed 224 people. 

IS Sinai took credit for “destroying” the plane but it wasn’t immediately clear what the contention was in terms of just how the group went about sabotaging the flight. Subsequently, a series of analysts and commentators opined that there was simply no way the militants could have possessed the technology or the expertise to shoot down a plane flying at 31,000 feet, but as Kogalymavia put it, “a plane cannot simply disintegrate.” 

In short, it seems as though something exploded, and while we can’t know for sure whether someone detonated on board or whether, as former NTSB investigator Alan Diehl told CNN, "final destruction" of the plane was the result of "aerodynamic forces or some other type of G-forces,” the circumstances are exceptionally suspicious especially given where the plane was flying and the current rather “tense” relationship between Moscow and Sunni extremists. 

Now, the US has apparently ruled out the possibility that a projectile hit the plane but satellite imagery depicts a “heat flash” at the time of the crash which indicates “some kind of explosion on the aircraft itself, either a fuel tank or a bomb.” Here’s NBC:

While many have speculated that a missile may have struck a Russian commercial airliner that went down over Egypt's Sinai peninsula, U.S. officials are now saying satellite imagery doesn't back up that theory.

 

A senior defense official told NBC News late Monday that an American infrared satellite detected a heat flash at the same time and in the same vicinity over the Sinai where the Russian passenger plane crashed.

 

According to the official, U.S. intelligence analysts believe it could have been some kind of explosion on the aircraft itself, either a fuel tank or a bomb, but that there's no indication that a surface-to-air missile brought the plane down.

 

That same infrared satellite would have been able to track the heat trail of a missile from the ground.

 

"The speculation that this plane was brought down by a missile is off the table," the official said.

 

A second senior U.S. defense official also confirmed the surveillance satellite detected a "flash or explosion" in the air over the Sinai at the same time.

 

According to the official, "the plane disintegrated at a very high altitude," when, as the infrared satellite indicates, "there was an explosion of some kind."

 

That official also stressed "there is no evidence a missile of any kind brought down the plane."

We'd be remiss if we didn't note that the video released by ISIS which purports to depict the plane exploding in mid-air doesn't appear to show any kind of missile, but rather seems to suggest that someone on the ground knew the exact time when the aircraft was set to explode. 

To be clear, there's always the possibility that this is a coincidence and that the explosion which brought down the plane wasn't terror related, but given the circumstances, you certainly can't blame anyone for suspecting the worst and as we noted earlier, the Sinai Peninsula is well within the range of Russia's warplanes flying from Latakia:

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Mon, 11/02/2015 - 21:42 | 6742237 Deathrips
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And the BRICS are counting their UST for the dump.

 

 

RIPS

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 21:45 | 6742249 HedgeAccordingly
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and it begins.. just in time for US/Canada strategery over russia. 

U.S., Canada To Conduct Military Flights In Russia
Mon, 11/02/2015 - 21:49 | 6742273 AlaricBalth
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When you dance with the bear, you don't stop until the bear wants you to stop.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 21:56 | 6742312 Richard Chesler
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A senior US official and NBC...

Seriously?

Sorry, CNBC is my preferred source of bullshit...

 

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:04 | 6742357 LongMarch
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So they could see the heat flash there, but not over the Ukies with MH-17?

They must think our memories are as short as their penises. 

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:13 | 6742381 Serfs Up
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+100

Exactly.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:27 | 6742432 Save_America1st
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I won't believe anything until the DoD, WH, or Pentagram, posts an animated youtubes video rendition of exactly what they say happened and how Putin shot down his own passenger jet to blame it on ISIS.  Then I'll sleep better at night. ;-)

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:29 | 6742458 Stuck on Zero
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There are some aerial pictures of the crash site out now.  It's pretty clear the Airbus was in a flat spin when it hit the desert.  The spin may have been so violent the tail broke off and the g-forces so large it would have kept the pilots from performing any effective actions. 

https://www.rt.com/news/320448-plane-crash-sinai-exclusive/

 

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 23:16 | 6742644 wintermute
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The Russians are investigating this all wrong.

They need to wait two months until local villagers and militias have rummaged through the crash-site, and then do a forensic investigation while they get verbal abuse from bystanders waving guns.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 23:46 | 6742708 BadLibertarian
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The video the IS guys put out seems to show an explosion at the tail of the aircraft. If that was a missle fired from an IS MiG, that would seem to account for the video and the damage at the crash site (and also for the lack of evidence of a ground-based launch).

I'm not totally sold on that video yet, but some of the 'experts' trotted out to refute it have said some amazingly dumb things - one of them claiming that the plane in the video had engines on the tail instead of under the wings (clearly not true) and another claiming that the plane in the video is flying well under 33,000 feet (without saying why).

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-plane-reported-egypt-aft...

So as odd as it sounds, with the evidence that's out there right now, it seems to me like an IS MiG, 600 miles or so from home base in Aleppo, shooting an air-to-air missle at a Russian passenger jet is one of the leading contenders right now to explain what happened. 

I'd hope they've found pieces of the empennage and are testing them for explosive residue and shrapnel.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 00:04 | 6742793 VATICANT
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Well hey if everyone would just nuke themselves we could get this whole charade over with a whole lot faster

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 07:53 | 6743219 Frumundacheeze
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"I don't know what WW III will be fought with, but WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones". Einstein

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 08:05 | 6743234 The Pope
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Yeah, but 'names' will never hurt me.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 09:03 | 6743304 WarPony
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You obviously were never called a felcher?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 00:18 | 6742828 hannah
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you can clearly see that the pilot has his window rolled down and is pointing to an incoming missle. it even looks likehe tried to roll the window back up before the missle hit the plane. also you can see the effects of the spinning because everyone of the passengers was either in the tail or the nose of the plane.

 

this plane crash analysis is easier than i thought...

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 08:08 | 6743238 The Pope
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 "the pilot has his window rolled down"

 

Apparently, That's the same technique the ones who supposedly crashed into WTC used to toss their passports out the window just before impact so they wouldn't get burned up in the fireball. The dude must have trained in Florida.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 10:24 | 6743582 Stuck on Zero
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On closer examination you can see that the pilot is Robert Stack.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 06:04 | 6743151 PT
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Are we sure this isn't just a case of maintenance being done by the lowest bidder?

http://dilbert.com/strip/1997-12-15
...
http://dilbert.com/strip/1997-12-18

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 06:10 | 6743158 Deres
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The plane suffered a tailstrike in 2001. The crash site is highly compatible with a structural failure associated to it. It is a shame but there has been two similar accifent in the past with fauklty reparations following a tailstrike.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 08:21 | 6743254 Ace Ventura
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One tiny problem with this theory. 2001 was 14 years ago.....during which time this aircraft underwent THOUSANDS of takeoff/pressurization/landing cycles. A faulty repair to a structurally-critical area would have manifested LONG before now.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 08:37 | 6743271 Deres
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In the two knwon previous accident, the reparation occured 7 and 22 years before ...

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 11:32 | 6743894 globozart
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i could have happened again during this takeoff. This is one of the more likely explanations so far.

Sometimes you dont even feel the tailstrike, because its not severe (and because the runway is so bad). But it might do some small extra damage to the plane.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 12:58 | 6744293 Deres
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Very interesting information. I was not aware that some "soft" tailstrike could happen. If the reparation would have consisted of the addition of a new metal plate, a new tail strike could have remove it.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 12:58 | 6744294 Deres
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Very interesting information. I was not aware that some "soft" tailstrike could happen. If the reparation would have consisted of the addition of a new metal plate, a new tail strike could have remove it.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 23:49 | 6742740 Ness.
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I won't beleive anything these fucks are selling until the World can read the #28pages

Putin has the goods on MH17.

Bad times a comin'.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 23:19 | 6742665 Baby Bladeface
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Amazing coincidence all US satellites eyes blinked at critical moment overlooking MH17 incident.

So told Psaki with veracity unquestionable...

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 11:18 | 6743824 omniversling
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A flash something like this? Possibly sat based?

Drone Shot Down With Laser Beam 2013 HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2yuHMDDA68
MTHEL (THEL) - Mobile Tactical High Energy Laser (Israeli-Weapons.com - Surplus Weapons)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCBwLJjzDJQ
Nautilus Tactical High Energy Laser THEL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7etTYuXDb0g
Airborne Laser ABL Executive Update 2008 Boeing 747 YAL-1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-dEXaSJWME

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:26 | 6742383 philipat
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And with Eastern Ukraine being a War Zone in which The US had an active interest, you can be sure that many different satellites were positioned right overhead. It's perfectly obvious there has been a massive coverup wrt MH017. ATC transcripts never released (And a "disappearing" Spanish Controller), change of registered flight path to right over the Donbass, reduction of altitude by 2K Feet after already established at cruise altitude, perfectly round holes in the fuselage near the cockpit amongst other highly irregular matters.

You can be sure that The US has an accurate track of any missiles involved (Whether SAM or AAM) but it might, perhaps, not fit with the desired narrative?

It's a shame that the Dutch, who are generally very decent people went along (You expect it from Australia). They must have been leaned on very hard and, of course, unlike Germany, they did get their Gold back!

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:41 | 6742513 wisefool
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You can be sure that The US has an accurate track of any missiles involved (Whether SAM or AAM) but it might, perhaps, not fit with the desired narrative?

I think you give the USA too much credit. It has been recently announced (google+MSM) that usa.gov erased a very signfigant portion of the records of the Moon Landing. You know, the event that is widely accepted as the most important achevement of all of mankind -- and at the very least -- proved how superior 'muricans are over those red communists.

Yep, lets just reuse those old tapes for morning meeting conference calls ... same thing probably happened with the MH17 data.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 03:00 | 6743026 ebear
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"It has been recently announced (google+MSM) that usa.gov erased a very signfigant portion of the records of the Moon Landing."

Hmmm.... I wonder why they did that?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 11:43 | 6743954 Socratic Dog
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You mean, why did they make the announcement?  Because I have little confidence any genuine tapes ever existed. Hollywood tapes?  Sure.

Remember, it came from the same guys who brought us the lone-wolf Kennedy assasination, and the 19-guys-in-a-cave WTC demolition.  Why the fuck WOULD I believe it?  I did when I was a kid in elementary school and watched it live on TV.  But I didn't read the Hedge back then.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 03:00 | 6743027 ebear
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"It has been recently announced (google+MSM) that usa.gov erased a very signfigant portion of the records of the Moon Landing."

Hmmm.... I wonder why they did that?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 01:39 | 6742945 BarkingCat
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The Dutch are spineless pussies.
It is why their country is overrun by human trash from a bunch of 3rd world shit holes.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 06:05 | 6743068 philipat
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It is true that the Dutch tend to be "Progressive" Socialists. But that is because they sent all their Right-wing crazies to South Africa several generations ago??

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 06:37 | 6743172 HowdyDoody
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They returned to the Netherlands when Apartheid ended, bringing their craziness with them. Since then the Netherlands has become yet another bought-and-paid-for US vassal state. Coincidence?

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:20 | 6742410 bonin006
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Probably means the USSA was not directly involved this time, so they don't mind sharing some data.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:24 | 6742430 philipat
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Perhaps helping their ISIS friends take credit for an explosion on board?

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:24 | 6742429 TheReplacement
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How about the Egyptians planted the bomb in order to get Russian support in the Sinai?

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:57 | 6742580 HowdyDoody
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Russia and Egypt have a deal in which Russia will supply helicopters for the Mistrals that Saudi has bought from France on behalf of Egypt. So it is not very likely. The Anglo-Zionists? They will do anything to stop Russia expanding its influence.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:57 | 6745644 omniversling
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Army Chief of Staff Mark Miley having a 'precious bodily fluids' moment (maniac alert!):

https://www.rt.com/usa/320572-general-milley-russia-threat/

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:42 | 6742517 MasterOfTheMult...
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There actually was thermal imaging by US satellites on MH17, however this info was never shared with Dutch/Aus/Malay MH17 investigators, at least not according to final MH17 report. Perhaps truth would destabilize geopolitical relationships too much, as Russia has thousands of registered companies in Netherlands and Putin's daugther is reportedly dating some Dutch guy. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/flight-mh17-vladimir-putins-daug...

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 02:49 | 6743018 Dugald
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So they could see the heat flash there,

Ok, so why did it take so long for this info to surface............?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 02:54 | 6743019 Wile-E-Coyote
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Funny isn't it when MH-17 was downed they knew straight away the Russians did it. Now MSM is doing it's best to play the Russian incident down, and using any excuse except the obvious it was a bomb. Just watched the BBC news a.m they had an expert on from some UK Uni with a thick broad American accent (CIA op came straight to mind) to explain what could have happened, he kind of mentioned a bomb at the end out of the side of his mouth, it killed him to say it.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 10:50 | 6743652 Slomotrainwreck
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“some kind of explosion on the aircraft itself, either a fuel tank or a bomb.”

So it seems that THEY have determined that a shattered turbine engine was not in play. No mention of the composition of the metal shards that tore apart the tail area imbedded in the corpses.

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Another possible reason for an explosive decompression may be a faulty engine. If a turbine was destroyed, its torn-off blades could penetrate the wing and fuselage.

According to experts, the blades of the turbine "fly out with great speed and, moving in the same plane, cut the liner's wing and fuselage like an angle grinder disc," Kommersant reports. -

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:41 | 6742512 Tyrone Shoelaces
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Ah, yes, the old center-fuel-trick-explosion trick again - guess it has been long enough since the last one so time is on their side.

 

Does the A3-whatever bus have a center fuel tank that is capable of mysterious at altitude explosions like the B 747 did?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 02:53 | 6743021 Wile-E-Coyote
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I have never bought the fuel tank explosion theory. Why? The fuel tank even empty will be full of fuel vapour there would not be sufficient Oxygen to propagate ignition under normal circumstances.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 08:47 | 6743281 Ace Ventura
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Not to mention the pesky problem of over 200 eyewitness accounts across a wide geographical area noting a distinct missile/rocket plume/exhaust trail leading up to the point of impact. In one of the more amazing findings in the history of history, the FBI seems to have determined that all those people were 'unreliable' or didn't really see what they thought they saw.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 10:26 | 6743592 Monetas
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The ability to bury a story .... with 200 eyewitnesses .... is scary .... connect my dots ?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 11:47 | 6743962 Socratic Dog
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9/11.  Kennedy.  tens of thousands of eyewitnesses, maybe millions.  But I repeat myself.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 11:16 | 6743831 robertsgt40
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I wonder if US "experts" have ruled out the "fuel crossover tank" as a possibility yet?  

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