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Infrared Satellite Reveals Heat Flash At Time Of Russian Airplane Disaster

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Earlier today, we highlighted commentary from Russia’s Kogalymavia (the airline operating the ill-fated Airbus A321 which crashed in the Sinai Peninsula) where officials said human and technical factors weren’t responsible for the mid-air disaster which killed 224 people. 

IS Sinai took credit for “destroying” the plane but it wasn’t immediately clear what the contention was in terms of just how the group went about sabotaging the flight. Subsequently, a series of analysts and commentators opined that there was simply no way the militants could have possessed the technology or the expertise to shoot down a plane flying at 31,000 feet, but as Kogalymavia put it, “a plane cannot simply disintegrate.” 

In short, it seems as though something exploded, and while we can’t know for sure whether someone detonated on board or whether, as former NTSB investigator Alan Diehl told CNN, "final destruction" of the plane was the result of "aerodynamic forces or some other type of G-forces,” the circumstances are exceptionally suspicious especially given where the plane was flying and the current rather “tense” relationship between Moscow and Sunni extremists. 

Now, the US has apparently ruled out the possibility that a projectile hit the plane but satellite imagery depicts a “heat flash” at the time of the crash which indicates “some kind of explosion on the aircraft itself, either a fuel tank or a bomb.” Here’s NBC:

While many have speculated that a missile may have struck a Russian commercial airliner that went down over Egypt's Sinai peninsula, U.S. officials are now saying satellite imagery doesn't back up that theory.

 

A senior defense official told NBC News late Monday that an American infrared satellite detected a heat flash at the same time and in the same vicinity over the Sinai where the Russian passenger plane crashed.

 

According to the official, U.S. intelligence analysts believe it could have been some kind of explosion on the aircraft itself, either a fuel tank or a bomb, but that there's no indication that a surface-to-air missile brought the plane down.

 

That same infrared satellite would have been able to track the heat trail of a missile from the ground.

 

"The speculation that this plane was brought down by a missile is off the table," the official said.

 

A second senior U.S. defense official also confirmed the surveillance satellite detected a "flash or explosion" in the air over the Sinai at the same time.

 

According to the official, "the plane disintegrated at a very high altitude," when, as the infrared satellite indicates, "there was an explosion of some kind."

 

That official also stressed "there is no evidence a missile of any kind brought down the plane."

We'd be remiss if we didn't note that the video released by ISIS which purports to depict the plane exploding in mid-air doesn't appear to show any kind of missile, but rather seems to suggest that someone on the ground knew the exact time when the aircraft was set to explode. 

To be clear, there's always the possibility that this is a coincidence and that the explosion which brought down the plane wasn't terror related, but given the circumstances, you certainly can't blame anyone for suspecting the worst and as we noted earlier, the Sinai Peninsula is well within the range of Russia's warplanes flying from Latakia:

 

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Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:43 | 6742519 Cacete de Ouro
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MH17 was taken down by two Ukrainian fighter jets, no?

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:56 | 6742576 NoWayJose
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Sorry, but regarding MH17 we have no infrared, no satellite images, no black box recordings, no ATC recordings or witnesses, and no physical evidence - just like MH 370!

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:44 | 6742527 Nexus789
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What is the point of the last paragraph? Are these idiots trying to suggest that the Russians sho their own airliner down. The west is insane.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 23:02 | 6742603 Atomizer
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Rewind the drone footage within that specific area. It will be deemed classified, as Hillarys illegal emails as Secretary of State. 

Espionage can only work if your mole is within. 

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:44 | 6742529 bid the soldier...
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therefore

either a fuel tank or a bomb

or a bomb IN the fuel tank

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:51 | 6742550 NoWayJose
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Be careful when using the word 'explosion' - especially when ISIS is launching giant flying condom bombs.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 22:53 | 6742561 Atomizer
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Condolences to the families. Let's talk about the different layers of our atmosphere to generate sound conclusions of a swamp gas flash.

http://www.albany.edu/faculty/rgk/atm101/structur.htm

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 23:00 | 6742591 enloe creek
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Who runs bartertown these days.  They can't seem to nail down the middle East because our allies seem to want to destroy us.  So how the fuck do they plan on making out in the long run. Or are they just in too deep and can't stop digging.  Shame so many have to pay for the hubris of the elites

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 23:05 | 6742615 NoWayJose
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Dear Congresswoman Gabbard - if you continue to meddle in our Middle East plans, there will be even more consequences - signed NWO

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 23:12 | 6742639 tuttisaluti
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Maybe it was a meteorite 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 00:53 | 6742882 BuddyEffed
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Meteor would have likely had a heat flash too, a very big and bright arc across a large portion of the sky.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 23:19 | 6742663 Dragon HAwk
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So who was the guy taking the phone camera shot from such a distance and holding it on the plane long  before the Puff of black smoke?

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 23:30 | 6742696 Duc888
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Pay no attention to the Israeli F-16 that blew it out of the sky.

Mon, 11/02/2015 - 23:58 | 6742773 83_vf_1100_c
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  American infrared sattellite got a heat signature. That means they know the spectrum of the heat signature. Which means they know if it was JP8/4 or maybe C4. Different things burn at different rates and the US probably knows what type explosion it was. They may well know which group they paid to plant it. My tax dollars at work. Fuck!

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 06:34 | 6743169 XuscitizenSweden
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RE: '83_vf_1100_c  '

Excellent observation friend.

Regardless of 'nationality', be assured it was members of the *Yid-Yank Mafiosa/Dual Citizens Inc* that did the planning & dirty work.

Best Response is to make a 'glass parking lot' there in the eastern ME; little land with khazars and a long sunbathing stretch of coastline++++plus the District of Criminals-DC.

Fry the b@stards respsible, "Pas Encore, si vous plait".

 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 02:24 | 6742829 honestann
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I'll repeat what I said the other day.  How do we know that ISIS video is of this specific airplane, and on the relevant date?  I don't know.

PS:  I'm sure the CIA, Mossad and other agencies of the USSA and Israel have the ability to supply a bomb and bribe someone at the airport (mechanic or food service perhaps) to place the bomb on board.

Whether that is what happened, we don't yet know.  But we do know the neo-con-jobs, Mossad and allies love to orchestrate atrocities like this.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 18:44 | 6746192 omniversling
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Ring Rita Katz, she'll know...

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 00:26 | 6742843 FedFunnyMoney
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It was a bomb. All the hallmarks of it.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 02:47 | 6743016 Free_Spirit
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Some simple chemical analysis on the fuselage will give a quick and definitive outcome to the bomb possibility, either the residue is there or it isnt.  

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 00:52 | 6742881 onmail1
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<-- Evil America & its allies

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Satan America approved 100 million $ aid to Syrian rebels 

(probably) as a reward for crashing the Russian plane killing hundreds of civilians

 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 08:28 | 6743263 NoBillsOfCredit
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All governments have evil people. America is not the same as the UNITED STATES, Inc.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 01:05 | 6742896 Magooo
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So they have this - but nothing similar for the Malaysian flight that was shot down (by American proxies)

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 01:21 | 6742919 Flybyknight
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Yes they have it  but it shows MH17 was shot down  either by a Ukrainian plane or by a missile from the Kiev Ukrainian forces  so they won't release it as it damages the anti Russian narrative

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 01:37 | 6742942 atthelake
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If there was a bomb or a fuel tank explosion with a heat source big enough for an infra red satellite to pick up, there would be burn marks on the plane. I've been looking and haven't found any. That may be because there's no oxygen that high but I think there would be some evidence of burning and I don't see any. Do you?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 03:13 | 6743039 atthelake
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Thank you.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 03:26 | 6743049 Rock On Roger
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But that is on the ground.

 

I wonder if Russia will tell the truth?

Or will it be hidden, like MH17?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 03:53 | 6743072 prmths2
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Re:  "That may be because there's no oxygen that high..."

Explosives such as TNT (C6H2(NO2)3CH3), dynamite (C3H5N3O9), C-4 (C3H6N6O6), etc. do not require atmospheric oxygen for detonation. The explosive energy is obtained from the oxidation of carbon, hydrogen, and occasionally metal by oxygen that is typically part of the explosive compound and bound to nitrogen. N-O bonds are relatively weak compared to H-O and C-O bonds, providing the opportunity for considerable energy output for the net reaction of breaking N-O bonds and oxidizing other materials. Thermobaric bombs are another story.

 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 01:45 | 6742951 Joe A
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So if they can see all that in Egypt they must have been able to see all that in Ukraine with MH17, trajectory and all.

Bomb on that plane just like PanAm flight over Lockerbie is very plausible. With an altitude triggered charge. Those bombs are a cheap alternative over owning an anti aircraft missile system, and less sophisticated but still would require some technology and knowledge. And access to the plane.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 06:38 | 6743173 Baby Eating Dingo22
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timer,remote,, or cell phone trigger- or just a martyr

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 01:55 | 6742959 Glasshopper
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Suicide bomber?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 01:57 | 6742963 Macon Richardson
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"as we noted earlier, the Sinai Peninsula is well within the range of Russia's warplanes flying from Latakia."

I fail to see the relevance of that last sentence in the article.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 02:11 | 6742989 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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Yeah, as if it wasn't within reach before the crash. The line is that Russia somehow needs justification to bomb someone in that region. First of all, it does not need justification, second, there's no one to bomb overthere. Handful of brainwashed goat keepers with megalomaniac ideas do not count.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 02:12 | 6742992 joe90
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Implying Russian false flag

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 09:12 | 6743324 dsty
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It wouldn't be the first time Russia has used a false flag

That is how Putin got his hand on the throttle of Russia

But don't let me mess up your fantasy of hero Putin.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 09:35 | 6743393 Volkodav
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don't worry...every of your posts convinces more you know nothing about these subjects...

 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 02:21 | 6742998 buffed
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"

That same infrared satellite would have been able to track the heat trail of a missile from the ground."

So they can immdediately determine through satelite surveilance that a missile wasn't usded in this incident.  However, for a hot war zone in Ukraine there was no satelite coverage when the Malaysian flight was hit by a missile?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 02:26 | 6743001 TheSheepWolf
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Yeah yeah, the US infrared satellite. I am wondering where that satellite and the latest cutting edge technology was when MH17 was shot down from the sky...

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 03:34 | 6743056 Fireman
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USSA (like their I$I$ a$$et$) has zero credibility so this crap can be considered another attempt at muddying the waters. However, as Egypt is playing ball with Russia on this one the facts will be on the "table" for all to see before Mercans pig out on their turkeys.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 03:52 | 6743065 wizteknet
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Flash boom... Thing is forensics can detect bomb matter, guess we shall find out soon!? But jet fuel can burn alot of traces, maybe not where the break was.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 03:56 | 6743074 wizteknet
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17,828.69 +165.15 futures I kid u not

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 04:08 | 6743080 Debugas
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former company stewardess declared that for the last 4 months this airplane was behaving sometimes very strangely and everyone was afraid flying it

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 04:36 | 6743101 Volkodav
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link?

 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 04:45 | 6743107 Debugas
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is the pressure inside the plane alone enough to blow up the plane at 30k feet height in case a hole is drilled or a window is broken?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 05:42 | 6743138 Global Observer
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That official also stressed "there is no evidence a missile of any kind brought down the plane."

Wonder what the official say when Russia produces the missile parts from the debris.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 05:46 | 6743143 smacker
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If this plane exploded from a bomb on board - which remains my best guess - we'll get to know soon enough. Forensics will detect bomb traces and there's also the actual damage to aircraft pieces, shrapnel etc.

It's beginning to look like a bomb exploded and blew up a fuel tank(s).

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 08:49 | 6743149 NuYawkFrankie
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Let's cut the crap. All roads lead to, all fingers point at the REAL Axis Of Evil: ISISrael + UiSiSA.

If there is to be a future - and since their own populations are either unwilling or incapable - these two ZIO-THUG Rogue Regimes must be held accountable by THE REST of humanity.

A Global Boycott/Trade-Embargo would be a good start.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 09:13 | 6743326 dsty
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I man who dishes out the usual crap telling people to cut the crap.

Ironic

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 10:42 | 6743657 83_vf_1100_c
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ISISrael + UiSiSA... yiou realize people are laughing at your whacked self?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 06:10 | 6743157 Proaurum
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ISIL claim responsibly by issuing what looks like a fake video several hours after the dissapearance of the plane, when it appears more likely that a bomb placed inside (if in fact it turns out to be a bomb) caused the plane to disintegrate. ISIL were likely being opportunistic in making the announcement otherwise they would have stated it was a bomb far sooner after the plane disappeared and would have provided more clear evidence.

As no one else has claimed responsibility, it means whoever is responsible is afraid of retribution and wants to sow confusion in the minds of the Russians. Who could this be?

Your usual terrorist organizations do not fear retribution as they lack the infrastructure or clear command lines which make easy targets. They also value the notoriety such actions bring. Who would be so worried about retribution that they don't make an announcement?

Countries (think Libya and Lockerbie). Who has most to lose by a successful Russian campaign against ISIL in Syria?

Israel- who are worried about Hezbollah gaining new weapons, experience and territory to operate from.
Saudi Arabia- fearing a resurgent Iran
USA- who view the ME as their back yard

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 08:59 | 6743297 ajkreider
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So, it what world does Israel downing a civilian Russian airliner lead to an unsuccessful Russian campaign against ISIS?  Obviously, if the downing does anything, it will strengthen their resolve.  The Israelis know all of this.

 

Conspiracy theories have to at least be in the realm of possibility to be even mildly entertaining.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 10:21 | 6743520 Proaurum
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For any crime, you need means and motivation. Russian citizen's support of the action in Syria appears to be rather thin, with many questioning if this is Afghanistan Mark II. If the deaths of these people is somehow related to actions in Syria, there will be calls for the Russian military to disengage. 

Israel borders Sinai (they occupied it for several years) so could easily infiltrate airport security. Hezbollah is acting more like a modern army (there are video clips of them driving US Abrams tanks in Iraq) and are gaining tactical and strategic experience of fighting a war on a large battle front. As well as any weapons they may be acquiring, they also now have Russian air-force cover. I think there's every reason for Israel to want Russia to leave Syria.

Have you noted any Israeli bombing raids on Syria since the Russians intervened? No, even though they were occurring on an almost monthly basis prior to this.

I should also add that Saudi Arabia has a track record of blowing up planes whilst the USA are still trying to implement the neocon dream of total global dominance. Both have shitloads of money and/or resource to manage something like this.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 06:30 | 6743165 dreadnaught
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later word says explosion was EXTERNAL

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 06:58 | 6743180 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Another Airline should have been chosen for the 'cause'. It's hard to get worked up yelling "Remember the Kogalymavia".

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 07:11 | 6743186 css1971
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The officials of the government of the United States of America, fund and support terrorist organisations and should be apprehended and imprisoned indefinitely under the PATRIOT act.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 07:57 | 6743224 Frumundacheeze
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I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. Einstein
Tue, 11/03/2015 - 10:10 | 6743525 MoHillbilly
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The weapons of WW4 are not to be taken lightly ,I hear they can break bones. Right now , the weapons of politians are words, which can never hurt me

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 07:57 | 6743225 Ms No
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I hope whoever did this gets caught but it seems that there have been many explosions lately where there is no evidence left of what triggered the explosion.  If the Chinese explosions have any relation it seems that projectiles may no longer be necessary for these evil little games, there seems to always a fuel source present but nothing to suggest how it was kicked off, at least as far as we are being told.  If some terrorist were to have planted something evidence would be found to support that eventually. 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 18:58 | 6746259 omniversling
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Just search Direct Energy Weapons...lot's of options now, including Israeli Military Surplus:

?MTHEL (THEL) - Mobile Tactical High Energy Laser? (Israeli-Weapons.com - Surplus Weapons)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCBwLJjzDJQ

For evidence of sat-based systems, see the cookie cutter holes in the WTC complex after 911:

http://drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam4.html

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 08:02 | 6743231 wizteknet
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Lets have your heart broken, so blow up this works for me!

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 08:03 | 6743232 hoppingrobot
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Zionists exploding bombs. False flags increasing.

If a false flag happens in India, London will get a 1 Megaton thermonuclear missile warhead on its head. Also, at least 20-30 British cities will be sprayed with Salted Nuclear Bombs within 30 minutes.

Saudi Barbaria and Qatar will vaporise into thin air. Western Europe will freeze to death as the ONLY other source of energy - Russia - will cut it off.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 08:08 | 6743236 Frumundacheeze
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Here's some of the back story of this entire debacle leading up to current events. Mike Whitney over at Counter Punch has done an outstanding job writing on the inside scoop of all that is going on in that region and so far, he's been pretty much right-on. Be sure to watch out for the "expert" analysis from "government officials" in the media. Specifically, the Pentagram and their war-mongering neocon lapdogs http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/11/03/kerrys-debacle-in-vienna/

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 08:38 | 6743272 NoBillsOfCredit
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"and as we noted earlier, the Sinai Peninsula is well within the range of Russia's warplanes flying from Latakia:" What does this have to do with the rest of the article? let's just throw some Russia bashing in at the end? There are a whole lot of other countries warplanes within the same area too.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 09:15 | 6743332 dsty
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well you got to try to even the playing field don't ya

I mean, it is mostly US and Israel bashing isn't it

Like Russia is some how innocent of false flags and stirring up trouble.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 08:41 | 6743276 john milton
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how high can the condom weapon reach??

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 10:43 | 6743665 css1971
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Which size? Asian, caucasian or black?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 08:51 | 6743283 OutaTime43
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Wait.. they can tell this information but they can't definatively tell us where the BUK missile that took down MH17 in Ukraine launched from?

As a side note, anyone notice how spammy Zerohedge has become? I used to be able to load an read this page immediately before they spammed up the ads. Now, its a slow mess. Almost considering not visiting this spammy crap going forward.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 09:21 | 6743336 wizteknet
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adblock use a real browser.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 10:09 | 6743517 me or you
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Private Badger will keep those ads away.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 10:44 | 6743675 83_vf_1100_c
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Firefox browser and one of the several adblocker add-ons. I use uBlock currently. "What ads?"

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 11:35 | 6743903 Dickweed Wang
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As a side note, anyone notice how spammy Zerohedge has become? I used to be able to load an read this page immediately before they spammed up the ads. Now, its a slow mess.

 

 

Get Ghostery loaded on your web browser and you will get most of the annoying ads blocked from most sites - including ZH.  Go to http://www.ghostery.com.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 09:21 | 6743358 Niall Of The Ni...
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That plane was brought down by a bomb planted by an agent of the House of Saud. News flash: Saudi Arabia is at war with Russia, and this was an act of war.

This will keep happening until Russia conquers Saudi Arabia and strips the House of Saud of its wealth and political power. 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 09:32 | 6743359 wizteknet
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... nuts or
... cherries
... none above?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 10:07 | 6743514 me or you
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American satellite can see a lot of things except the caravan of ISIS toyotas running freely on Syria and Iraq.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 10:40 | 6743649 Monetas
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Still can't find .... that pesky Mosul refinery ?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 10:38 | 6743639 Monetas
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Well, I got my char .... so my current theory .... is ISIS Egypt .... $10 Radio Shack alarm clock bomb a la Ahmed the genius child inventor .... very precise timing .... snuck on board in baggage in Sharm 'n' Shake .... ISIS cameraman knew the time of explosion .... the plane was six miles up .... some off the shelf video cams have tremendous optical and electronic zoom .... clear Sinai skies and knowlege of the route make the ISIS video plausible .... they love to throw the facts at you .... when they have them .... people in fore and aft of plane .... could be people fleeing the heat and smoke .... it would have been a good time to be a baby .... and not comtemplate your death ?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 10:45 | 6743671 madashellron
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So within in days of this Russian plane crash this evidents coming from a infared satelite is revealed by the U.S. military. But well over a year now that MH-17 crashed in Ukraine. And the U.S. military hasn't provided zero evidents, coming from the U.S. infared satellite that was directly above Ukraine at the time of the crash.

 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 10:50 | 6743705 cmkinusn
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If the us goal was to keep russia out of other countries, then directly proving that this was a bomb isn't helping their goals any. Seems pretty cooperative that we gave evidence of a "mechanical impact" instead of continuing to imply it was mechanical failure.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 12:18 | 6744108 Seer
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We'd be remiss if we didn't note that the video released by ISIS which purports to depict the plane exploding in mid-air doesn't appear to show any kind of missile, but rather seems to suggest that someone on the ground knew the exact time when the aircraft was set to explode.

Dancing Israeli Syndrome?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 19:04 | 6746281 omniversling
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Seer, you are the only post on this page that doesn't have active vote buttons. Upvote anyway for the joyful image of Israelis frolicking on the  roof of a minivan...

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