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A Furious Trump Goes After Janet Yellen: "She Is Not Raising Rates Because Obama Told Her Not To"

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Having gone after the entire GOP primary playing field, earlier today during a press conference held in his very own Trump Tower, Donald Trump decided to target his ire at a more worth adversary:US monetary policy in general, and Janet Yellen in particular.

This is what he said:

"The question is should the Fed raise rates? They are not raising them because Obama has asked them not to raise them. In my opinion, he wants to get out of office, because we're in a bubble and when those rates are raised, a lot of bad things are going to happen. In my opinion Janet Yellen is highly political and she's not raising rates for a very specific reason: because Obama told her not to because he wants to be out playing golf in a year from now and he wants to be doing other things and he doesn't want to see a big bubble burst during his administration.

The clip:

Naturally, the White House promptly denied the allegations: "Of course not," White House spokesman Josh Earnest said when asked about the remarks by Trump. "This administration goes to great lengths to ensure that the Federal Reserve" can make monetary policies that are in the best interests of the country and the economy, Earnest said.

This was to be expected.

Then again, considering today's rally which at least on the surface appears to be on a shift in sentiment (even if it is merely a continuation of the relentless short squeeze seen for the past month), now that a rate hike is again perceived bullish (which clearly does not explain why stocks soared on bearish economic data in October and hopes of rate hike delays) because "what would the Fed know if it is hiking that the market does not", Yellen just may surprise Trump and Obama with a rate hike in just over one month.

Which leads to the question: is Yellen as political as Trump claims, and if so, will Obama risk a market drop just in time for a presidential election that makes his golf game far less pleasant a year from now?

 

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Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:33 | 6745075 SethDealer
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Trump is right

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:35 | 6745081 AlaricBalth
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I think The Donald is confused. The Fed and it's minions (Dudley, Jamie and Lloyd for example) call the shots, not Obama.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:36 | 6745097 flacon
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I wish I could lie as effectively as Janet Yellen. Is there an Ivy League course in lying? Sign me up! Lying 101. 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:39 | 6745120 flacon
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S&P 500 is back to where it was on February 24th... whoopdy woooo!!! 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:51 | 6745172 ZerOhead
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Once it goes back to Feb 2nd levels they should just leave it so that every day can be Groundhog Day...

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:00 | 6745236 two hoots
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And there is this:  (MarketWatch today)  "The White House is facing criticism this week for long ignoring a 2010 law requiring President Barack Obama to appoint an official at the Federal Reserve who would oversee strengthening the nation's banks and improving the stability of the financial system.

And while experts say its perhaps unlikely that such a person could win confirmation now, it's unclear why Obama didn't bother when Democrats controlled the Senate -- and the empty seat has meant Fed Chairwoman Janet Yellen will have to testify on Wednesday."

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/white-house-feeling-heat-for-leaving-to...

 

  

 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:13 | 6745344 strannick
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God bless The Donald

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:22 | 6745399 daveO
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Long bullet proof vests. Banksters don't like criticism.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:58 | 6745650 pods
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If he is not smart enough to see what rising rates are going to do to debt carrying costs going forward maybe he is well suited for president.

pods

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 18:44 | 6746180 macholatte
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"This administration goes to great lengths to ensure that the Federal Reserve" can make monetary policies that are in the best interests of the country and the economy, Earnest said.

 

What was missing?

Nothing!

He completely agreed with Trump.  They ARE pressuring Yellen. However the Admin’s concept of “in the best interests of the country” may not be the same as Trump’s or mine or most people.   And there you have it.

 

 

 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 21:06 | 6746742 max2205
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Finally got a black president and what does he do, steals $2 trillion of white people's interest payments over 7 years.  Shocked

Wed, 11/04/2015 - 03:15 | 6747652 zhandax
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Trump may be right in what he said but he is confused in what he intimated.  Raising rates will strengthen the dollar which will put further pressure on other currencies.  How you plan to tell other countries to not devalue their currency when yours keeps getting stronger?   What does Trump plan to tell US exporters when this happens?  I can't see him in a video saying "I fucked up basic finance".  He is telling people what they want to hear in an election year, which is usually a good indicator that he will do the exact opposite if this is even a serious candidacy.

Wed, 11/04/2015 - 09:02 | 6748048 Surviver22
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Obama will not finish his second term!

http://motivationdose.com/is-america-babylon/

Wed, 11/04/2015 - 01:12 | 6747445 dogismycopilot
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I bet Donald knows better than anyone, including most of us here, what rising interest rates will do. He is a real estate developer. RE developers live and die by leverage and DCR (debt coverage ratios). He has a better understanding of finance than anyone in the US Federal government right now. People give him shit for his BKs in the past, but haven't we all agreed that the US balance sheet is proper fucked and it needs to be restructured? If so, then Donald is the man for that. The other option is we turn Japanese and become walking zombies while the average US Citizen is dumbed down into zombie slime. 

Personally, I say raise interest rates, let the forest fire happen, and maybe the real capitalists and entrepreneurs can rise out of the ashes.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:25 | 6745401 ZerOhead
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Looks like The Donald badly wants the COLLAPSE on Obamas resume. That means he must already be certain that he will become President.

I suspect Donald will then preside over the fire sale of whatever is left in the giant pile of ashes...

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:43 | 6745550 Karlus
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If it looks like Trump is ahead in the polls, they will bump for sure. Shake the boat a bit and see who barfs.

 

If Hillary, then smooth sailing, long green energy dreams.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 17:58 | 6745995 HopefulCynical
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"She's not raising rates because Rothschild told her not to."

FIFY, Donald.

(It would be nice if the ZH text editor actually worked...)

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 20:02 | 6746504 antonina2
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Well, I wouldn't want a collapse on my watch, that's for sure. Reminds me of the simpson's clip tho.....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&...

Wed, 11/04/2015 - 01:15 | 6747454 dogismycopilot
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Donald makes a very good point - besides a token raise on interest rates - I DO think we can expect interest rates to stay where they are until the new president is on board. That is EXACTLY Obama's style - make a mess and leave it for someone else to clean up so he can play the blame game. 

Yes another  example of Trump's ability to look within a person to see their motivation.

Wed, 11/04/2015 - 08:17 | 6747933 rbg81
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I've always suspected the 2008 financial crisis was engineered by Barney Frank and his ilk for the sole purpose of electing a Democrat POTUS.  Either Obama or Hillary would have fit the bill.  Since 2011, I've been pretty sure that QE will never end.  Donald is right  any attempt to end it will be a false flag, intended to tank the Market so another Socialist can be elected POTUS.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:14 | 6745347 y3maxx
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...By ongoing executive order...obama quietly drones trump into kingdom come in 3...2...1...

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:17 | 6745362 Son of Loki
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<< Is there an Ivy League course in lying? >>

 

Yes, it's called an MBA.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:54 | 6745623 LawyerScum
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 The Juris Doctorate is the premier degree for the discerning psychopath. 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:58 | 6745647 RaceToTheBottom
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To be followed by a job on WS creating CDOs.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 18:56 | 6746249 The Pope
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A yarmulke is your graduation cap.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:10 | 6745317 de3de8
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Now he has my vote for sure

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 22:46 | 6747056 Charming Anarchist
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Now I am going to turn on the television more and more

 

Politics is so much fun to watch!!! 

Aint this exciting, folks?!?? 

I am on the edge of my seat! 

 

What I like most about all of this suspense is that at any moment in time, ANYBODY can rip out a superman cape and save the day!! 

Oh, who will it be??

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:56 | 6745211 ZerOhead
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.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:14 | 6745351 Agent P
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Why all the down votes on a perfectly good point?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 18:06 | 6745924 messymerry
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Some of the Pubic Servants that frequent this board don't know what that means, so like all good crotches, they fear what they don't understand...

;-D    

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 23:44 | 6747239 BarkingCat
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The scroll thing happens when your JavaScript is turned off.

The positive is that most of the annoying does not work, but the downside is that when you vote you get a refresh that sends you to the top of the page.

My solution is to look at the message number before hitting the up/down vote and then do a search for it after the refresh (just remember the last 3 of the numbers.. for example yours is 924)

Wed, 11/04/2015 - 14:20 | 6749436 messymerry
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Actually, they fixed it.  The login is back at the top and voting does not go back to the top of the page.  I'm running noscript, ghostery, and privacy badger. 

All is well,,,

;-D  

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:41 | 6745123 AlaricBalth
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Obama is just an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill from the taxpayers.

Brando said it best:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqjQG-Tw9FY

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:46 | 6745151 Sothis
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The Federal Reserve owns the Democratic Party...  or the Democratic Party owns the Federal Reserve...  or someone else owns both of them.  Regardless of who is actually in control, it's pretty blatant that both entities are in the same chain of command.

Wed, 11/04/2015 - 01:38 | 6747518 ThirteenthFloor
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Actually the FRB does own the place, including both parties, with 4T in UST and MBS, and printing the legal tender.

I think Japan, China and Saudis neck to neck for second. One thing for sure America doesn't own it.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:03 | 6745265 Carpenter1
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All theatre.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:13 | 6745339 IndyPat
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The horror.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:45 | 6745563 Karlus
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...crawling, slithering on the edge...of a straight razor....and surviving. Thats my dream, thats my nightmare

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 22:16 | 6746979 espirit
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No Shit?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:48 | 6745146 ZerOhead
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The course will do you no good unless you first pass Sociopathy 101 which has a 99% failure rate.

It's something like taking modelling courses... no good at all unless you possess the proper genetics first.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:48 | 6745160 Bush Baby
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I think the Clinton Foundation offers an online course for a $10,000 donation

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:30 | 6745438 wee-weed up
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And for $250,000 Hill & Slick will give you personalized two-on-one instruction.

(but if you're a pretty female, Slick will make it one-on-one... and all he'll charge you is a cigar)

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 17:04 | 6745678 goldsaver
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but if you're a pretty female, Slick will make it one-on-one... and all he'll charge you is a cigar

 

unless Hill gets to you first, and then she will give you an assitant job and marry you off to one of her political alies...

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:07 | 6745304 XitSam
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There are no Ivy League courses in how to lie. However, passing the Hare Psycopathy Test is required for admittance.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:15 | 6745357 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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Lying almost got her killed. 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:18 | 6745378 SantaClaws
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Recall that the "Ivy League" is only a sports conference, and not an academic league.  Those who can't get admitted to Harvard or Yale would prefer that you think otherwise.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 18:00 | 6746014 Vatican_cameo
Tue, 11/03/2015 - 18:57 | 6746257 Macon Richardson
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All classes in all courses in all curricula in the Ivy League teach lying above all else. Why do you think those schools are so expensive? It doesn't take good schools to teach truth. Truth is just there, waiting to be discovered. Lying, on the other hand, is a high art, one that requires sixteen to twenty years of diligent practice to perfect.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 20:16 | 6746550 drendebe10
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"There ain't nuthin uglier than an old white woman."  Fred Sanford, Sanford &  Son

Wed, 11/04/2015 - 01:38 | 6747517 ZD1
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He never saw butt ugly black women like Oprah, Whoopi, or that man in drag who lives in the White House named Moochelle.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:38 | 6745111 humanstakeaction
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They are Obama. They are all the same.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:42 | 6745135 Buckaroo Banzai
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The Fed is staffed with compliant tools. They don't call the shots, they do what they are told.

Obviously, Obama does what he is told as well. But if you look at the history of the Fed, with the notable exception of Volker, Fed chiefs usually defer to the political needs of the White House.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:52 | 6745183 AlaricBalth
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Depends on the Chair

William McChesney Martin - Fed Chair 1951 - 1970

He ran the Fed under five presidents (Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon) and seems to have had a generally low opinion of presidential economic acumen. In an interview after he left the Fed, Mr Martin said that, for presidents, a lot of economics “is just almost superstition”. Democrat or Republican, they would try to persuade him to observe the needs of politics. John Kennedy's advisers were obsessed over whether he was “on the team”. He usually was not. When in 1965 he decided to raise interest rates to try to stave off inflation brought on by the Vietnam war, Lyndon Johnson called Mr Martin to his ranch in Texas to berate him about the political consequences of a rate rise. Mr Martin stood firm. The Fed had to “lean against the wind” of inflation, he said. His job, as he famously quipped, was to “take away the punch bowl just when the party gets going”.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:14 | 6745349 Bay of Pigs
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The punch bowl analogy is long gone with ZIRP and NIRP.

Rate normalization is impossible now without complete financial chaos and severe economic destruction. Stocks, bonds and RE sectors would all collapse.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 17:14 | 6745748 ZerOhead
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Yep.

You can't get to an economic recovery from where we are...

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 18:05 | 6746036 MANvsMACHINE
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Actually you can but you must go through Zimbabwe to get there.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 22:49 | 6747071 Charming Anarchist
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Why the pessimism? 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 23:50 | 6747253 GRDguy
Wed, 11/04/2015 - 01:56 | 6747549 ThirteenthFloor
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Significantly raise rates, while simultaneously chopping income taxes in half, then see what would happen.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 17:56 | 6745987 Clowns on Acid
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I think that Arthur Burns succeeded Martin as Fed Chair. I do believe that when Volcker left, that was the last goy as Fed Chair. 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:54 | 6745198 Berspankme
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Obama is the ultimate compliant tool

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:32 | 6745472 daveO
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Volcker's hand was forced. The dollar was getting slaughtered at that time. Gold went parabolic. He was playing catch up to the markets. They since found it's easier to sell paper gold.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:50 | 6745169 Pareto
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Agree.  But, all the more reason to call these fuckers out - and don't get lost in who's calling the shots.  At the end of the day who gives a fuck who is calling the shots?  The FED is a fucking crutch for the 1% - end of story.  Yellen can spew forth a bunch of nonsensical economic crap, but, at the end of the day - its on her.  And if she's a puppet too, then TFB!  Gotta start somewheres and I think thats what Trump is saying.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:14 | 6745348 Taffy Lewis
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Yes, Pareto. I love Ron Paul but in one clip Trump has called out the Federal Reserve in front of the American people more than Ron Paul got in publicity in his entire career.

It's an awesome, smart, hilarious "I dare you to raise rates, you stupid cunt" from Trump.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:19 | 6745381 Son of Loki
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The Donald has my respeck!

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 17:02 | 6745671 RaceToTheBottom
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He has my respeck, too.

 

But I am not sure he will ever earn my respect.

 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 22:55 | 6747086 Charming Anarchist
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It looks more like he surreptitiously defended the status quo using a jedi mind trick. 

<<...in one clip Trump has called out the Federal Reserve in front of the American people...>>

Let me get this straight. 

Trump puts every other actor in a position where doing nothing and maintaining the status quo is their safest bet and he preps the public to continue to accept more of the same and that warrants praise. 

Okee dokey. 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:22 | 6745396 NYPoke
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Trump is incorrect.  HOWEVER, he DOES have the correct subject, even if he doesn't undersand it.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 19:12 | 6746313 TuPhat
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Even Trump has to be careful how he words things.  We do have a lot of dead presidents but Trump has to get elected before he dies to be one of them.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 17:08 | 6745709 Jtrillian
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Obama does not have that kind of power.  Obama is a puppet.  The people pulling the strings of the FED has always been Wall St.  The FED is an independent entity.  People should know this.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 22:16 | 6746983 acetinker
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A-fkn-men!

Obama, Earnest et,al; are merely salesmen.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:50 | 6745168 Bloppy
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And what other candidate is making this crucial point? Even Rand hasn't had an effective anti-Fed message. Trump is 100% right.

 

 

 

Jeb’s ‘weird noises’ fascinate Rachel Maddow-

http://tinyurl.com/ne2sxz4

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:58 | 6745233 cheech_wizard
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Downvoted for mentioning Mad Cow Disease.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 17:02 | 6745665 Not My Real Name
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As did I. 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:08 | 6745310 cordial savage
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He absolutely is right that this is his "opinion".

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:12 | 6745337 undercover brother
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Whether Trump is right or wrong is really not the point.   He's accused Obama and Yellen of conspiriing and he's in the daily 24 hour news cycle where everything he says is reported around the world.  This is actually very good news.  

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:18 | 6745377 ejmoosa
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Almost right....The Fed has other people that pull their strings.   The Fed pulls Obama's string.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 23:48 | 6747248 smackdog
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Obama appointed Janet Yellen.  Obama can "hire and fire at will" the head of the Federal Reserve.  Of course he makes the decisions.

Wed, 11/04/2015 - 08:42 | 6748000 anarcode
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He's right about the bubble and interest rates but completely wrong about tariffs. Tariffs won't make you competitive, innovation and r&d will. The Donald has really dumb solultions to right problems.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:33 | 6745076 flacon
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Trump is correct. 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:55 | 6745201 Charles Nelson ...
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careful Donald... truth is treason in the empire of lies.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:34 | 6745085 sidfalco
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The Donald on The Money.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:34 | 6745087 ShorTed
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Fuck Obama.  Fuck Yellen.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:03 | 6745268 falak pema
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what about the Donald Trunk in your Allah o akbar of f***ing wishful thinking?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:36 | 6745095 Kristian
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China has still a lot of US bonds to sell.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:37 | 6745104 E.F. Mutton
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Too Black to Fail.  And they'll burn down the country to make it so. 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:38 | 6745110 CrimsonAvenger
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I think there's plenty of evidence showing that Obama hasn't the first clue about economics or finance. All of this is completely over his head. Other people are having those discussions and making decisions on behalf of the status quo players.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:47 | 6745157 Banker Buster
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That's why you need someone in the position of president that knows what the hell is going on with the economy.  If someone was in office that knew what the fed did and wasn't ok with the fed destroying the country, that president would pull Yellen into his office quick and tell/ask her "what the fuk are you doing bitch, you are you trying to burn this puppy to the ground.  You cannot leave rates this low for this long you crazy whore" Then he would ask for her resignation.  

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 18:36 | 6746154 orez65
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"Then he would ask for her resignation"

Our 7th President, Andrew Jackson, knew what he was doing.

In 1836 he abolished the 2nd Bank of the United States, what was the Federal Reserve of that time. 

That is what needs to be done now. No audits, no change of personnel just fu.king "kill the financial beast"!!!!!

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 19:23 | 6746372 Ass Burger
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Nah, the president should definitely be another lawyer. 

Wed, 11/04/2015 - 03:34 | 6747669 nc551
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The president has no business getting involved with the economy in any way shape or form.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:52 | 6745184 bid the soldier...
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Then the question is who told the Clueless Negro to tell Yellen not to raise rates?

There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that not will be made known.

               luke 12:2

(my guess is Lloyd Blankfein.  Who do you think?)

 

 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 17:57 | 6745998 messymerry
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Maybe Himee Diamond...

;-D  

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:36 | 6745505 daveO
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Exactly! It reminds me of this staged event.

http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/cheats/2015/10/28/obama-...

 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 17:42 | 6745898 Johnny Horscaulk
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He surely does not seem to know much about ConLaw.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:38 | 6745115 Ludwig Von
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Does Trump want his bubble burst ?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:39 | 6745116 aliki
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this guy is fucking great

and to anyone who DOESN'T like trump, you can thank him for this because he is the ONLY one in this political race with the fucking balls to say it

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:54 | 6745177 Bush Baby
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The Fucking Balls to say a lot of things.

Should he be elected I look forward to public outings of many a corrupt scumbag.

I think even Trump would need 3 terms to undo all corrpution that needs to be undone, but he may have to issue some Presidential pardons to get some of them to turn on the other ones.

 

He may even need to call in the Military for protection

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:55 | 6745200 LawsofPhysics
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Donald is a fucking hypocrite.  Speaking the truth, but still a fucking hypocrite.  I wonder where all that real estate would be valued without the Fed buying all those MBS.

 

Fuck all these fuckers, including donald.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:58 | 6745221 Bush Baby
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He's not a hypocrite and he's not a fool either.

Of course he was happy to take the increase in real estate values, give me a break.

He's not Mother Theresa , he's a businessman

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:58 | 6745228 El Vaquero
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Yup.  Lock me in a room and make me choose between Donald, Hillary or Jeb, and I'll pick Donald, and walk out feeling like a filthy fucking whore. 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:13 | 6745345 ZerOhead
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Yup.

Still infinitely more preferable than Hillary or Jeb. Plus it may turn a new page allowing for better people to enter politics who are not owned by the usual suspects.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:54 | 6745628 Ghost of Robotrader
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As opposed to what?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:07 | 6745298 cordial savage
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Four corporate bankruptcies.  He's played the game.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 18:10 | 6746052 schnydz
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Yep, and in a game where eveyone is playing the same rules...corp bankruptcies, I'd say the billionaire did right. 

Wed, 11/04/2015 - 01:21 | 6747476 dogismycopilot
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Mortgage Back Securities are like a gun. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. MBS don't imlode, MBS carved up into tranches of A, B, and C, all sold as "A" by some psychoathic banker are set to implode.

the MBS is a powerful economic tool that probably made the house/apartment you are writing from possible. Don't like it, Move to fucking Afghanistan and live in a cave. 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:04 | 6745279 cordial savage
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He'll just replace the current corruption with new or slightly different corruption.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:18 | 6745366 ZerOhead
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Now that's change I can believe in...

 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 20:32 | 6746624 mc225
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lol

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:52 | 6745181 somebody poison...
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But He is wrong and knows it. He knows the fed is the puppet master. 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:54 | 6745194 cordial savage
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He stated twice that it's his "opinion", and while it might be true, he's got as much proof as he did when he had all that birther claiming about Obama.  Let's not put him up for sainthood just yet.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:44 | 6745551 daveO
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No one asks what he knows about the birth certificate. I suspect he's seen the real one and is using it for 'protection'. Did he get his copy from Hildabeast? I'm sure she has it. If he enters the WH and is not killed, then I know it's true. 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:40 | 6745124 buzzsaw99
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the biggest fattest dove on the wire doesn't need to be told how to coo.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:40 | 6745126 carbonmutant
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Trump sayin' what a lot of people are thinkin'...

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:41 | 6745129 john milton
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Trump should learn from the Master Putin how to deal with the 1%...

classic Vlad...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j376nqJgrxU

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:49 | 6745591 daveO
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The weasel even tried to steal Putin's pen!

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 19:16 | 6746331 LongMarch
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Fuck me. That is something you will never see in the "free world"

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:41 | 6745131 HumourMeBlack
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The dog and pony show trots on.  Just need to figure which is the dog and which is the pony. Then again, who cares? SOS, just a different day.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:42 | 6745134 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Two things to consider are
1. http://tinyurl.com/pgp9su4

and

2. http://tinyurl.com/oqeqcbo

But the idea that Obama - the puppet of the Chicago Zionist network that groomed him - "told" Yellen to do anything is preposterous.

--AIPAC's Fed Candidate Stanley Fischer on a Warpath against Iran: Dual-citizen nominee's lifetime benefit to Israel comes at a heavy cost to America
http://www.irmep.org/fischer_aipac.htm

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:50 | 6745167 aliki
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^^^

keynsian/liberals are intent on ZIRP because it encourages/ensures the poor & middle class will take the bait, bite off more than they can chew, and find themselves in a massive debt hole, regardless of the vig.

john adams once said you can enslave people either thru the sword or thru debt.

the keynsian/liberals traded in their swords for their friends the doves @ the central bank. its alot less messy in this new world of social media.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:50 | 6745599 Johnny Horscaulk
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+100

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 18:05 | 6746034 messymerry
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Hi Alice,

It doesn't matter if you use the sword or debt in the end, the torches and pitchforks come out and the fat orouni's heads roll.  Then the cycle begins again. 

WE NEED GORT!!!

;-D    

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 17:13 | 6745714 daveO
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#2 is dead on target. The 'net is prying their fingers off of White (Christian) America's throat.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:49 | 6745164 DOGGONE
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Show the TRUTH NOW
http://showrealhist.com

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:51 | 6745174 The Carbonator
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Trump is right.  Rates will NOT rise while the Obamination is in office.

 

IF, a NON Democrat wins the White House, then they will allow the market to free fall.

 

Gotta keep pushing that NYC Leftist adgenda...so what if a few billion go into poverty.  Just blame it on Bush.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:52 | 6745182 LawsofPhysics
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Don't bite the hand that feeds you Donald!

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:54 | 6745192 aztrader
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Obama has to keep his bankster friends happy so that when he goes out to give speeches, they will have to pay him a load of cash as payback.   Hillary is the perfect example.   Why in hell would anyone pay these idiots to give a speech unless payback is involved.  Obama will probably get $500k a speech for protecting wall street for 8 years.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:54 | 6745195 the grateful un...
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yeah and President Trumps first call to the Fed will be to instruct Janet Yellen not to raise rates. gee why didnt i think of that?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:55 | 6745205 replaceme
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He's got the right idea, but yea - Obama's got about as much input as I do....

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:56 | 6745210 cordial savage
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I don't think hanging his hat on Barry's golf game is going to matter much.  He'll be playing the same golf regardless.  I don't think Barry will have much concern once his eight years are done.  He'll just gear up for the speaking circuit and wait for his library to be established.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 15:56 | 6745212 TheBeatles
Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:05 | 6745247 falak pema
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Trump, the trunk of an elephant in a china shop !

Running wild, running strong. (That rhymes with wrong; for the trolls).

Yellen, you are the disease that haunts hubristic Ahab : you are Moby Dick, the white whale that keeps running like a mad print machine of the seven seas all the way to the infinite horizon of the TBTF bankster's monetary web.

And then suddenly returns like backlash to break the Medusa raft of destitute humanity, with its awesome tail of dystopian blow back !

We are in interesting times.

Oligarchy rule now fears populist backlash, neither being the solution to Weimar USA veering to Mein Kampf.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:02 | 6745256 Bill of Rights
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Easy Donald before they Kennedy your ass...

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:02 | 6745264 pob
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Give that man a Banana!

 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:04 | 6745276 medium giraffe
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Mr Trump here has noticed, as have we all, that there's no one at the wheel and the bridge is out.

Sadly it's a situation which cannot be unfucked,a running commentary changes nothing, ours, yours, theirs....

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:11 | 6745326 Bill of Rights
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George Soros is the cause of all this fucking if you're looking for a direct source.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:23 | 6745405 medium giraffe
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If it were only that easy. This is centuries in the making, the list is long and full of cunts.

But it doesn't really matter, we're splitting hairs. When you step in dogshit does the breed of dog it came from matter?
(unless St Bernard of course, then it's in your socks too).

Grab a beer and watch, it's all gonna be pretty interesting. Some of it will be very funny indeed. And some not so much.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:06 | 6745277 undercover brother
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No, a rate hike is not now seen as bullish.  For the last year all the fed has been doing is talking and not raising while continuing to manipulate the short end of the curve.  So the market realizes talk is cheap and the fed is actively supporting stock prices.   Furthermore, Yellen isn't tough enough emotionally to withstand a 30% market drop if she raises.  

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:14 | 6745350 brada1013567
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Everything is seen as bullish, when Janet takes a shit that is bullish!

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:17 | 6745367 brada1013567
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And when Draghi scratches his nuts that is sell the farm and buy buy buy!

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:06 | 6745289 brada1013567
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Draghi: Hey Janet, Fuck Donald, I got your back!

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:07 | 6745299 Zero-Hegemon
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Janet just shakes the Magic Eight Ball: "Signs say no"

The Magic Negro approves.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:08 | 6745308 Grandad Grumps
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It is a game.

Outgoing presidents like to leave big bags of shit on the doorsteps of incoming presidents.

A. it is too early to create the bag of shit
or
B. Ubungo is not planning on leaving

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:11 | 6745329 wswarrior
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This market is rigged - like I said yesterday, on up days it shoots up and only has shallow 2 to 3 point pullbacks.  The S&P is up 5% in 9 trading days - it's actually four trading days since it closed flat last week.  Between the 10/22 and 10/23 and 11/2 and 11/3, the S&P has added nearly 100 points.  This is after a significant rally off of the lows.  It makes no sense to attempt to explain these market fluctuations since it goes up on bad news, good news, rate hike expectations, hold expectations, etc.  The S&P trades like a penny stock and people try to put commentary around its movements.  Quite hilarious actually.     

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:24 | 6745403 Bernoulli
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CNBC is just the best at it: "U.S. stocks traded higher Tuesday, attempting to extend November's gains so far, as investors awaited key economic reports and Fed speakers later in the week".

They have been doing it for so long now, everybody thinks this is normal and nobody question anything anymore...

Orwell predicted it...

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:15 | 6745355 bankonzhongguo
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The grim reality is Trump's statements clearly indicate his role in this charade.

Obama and Yellen work for the banks.

And Trump knows this, yet puts out a "raise rates" meme?

It's a joke being told in an underground torture chamber.

Like Kerry v Bush, Trump plays the blow-hard evil white billionaire verses the Hillary-Google Good Witch of the North.

Heaven help everyone.

What will this "country" look like in another 9 years?

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 17:51 | 6745956 InnVestuhrr
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except that banks HATE ZIRP because their net interest margins are record lows

otherwise your silly conspiracy theory is very compelling

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:15 | 6745356 pmsacco
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Trump is correct.  The Martin Fed was the last non-politicized Central Bank in the USA, with the possible exception of Paul Volker.

Keeping rates near zero is the reason Obama yielded to the feminists and picked Yellen over Summers.  Larry Summers was clearly the better choice, as Yellen's dovishness is well known.

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 17:29 | 6745821 daveO
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Modern feminism owes it's whole existence to the fiat dollar, to pay their salaries. Only fitting to have a woman running the counterfeit machine. The ERA passed Congress just 7 (March,1972) months after Nixon closed the honest money window. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment

 

Tue, 11/03/2015 - 16:16 | 6745361 CHX
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Like him or not, but he has got a point...

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