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The European Refugee "Invasion" In One Stunning Infographic
A week ago, we brought you drone footage which vividly demonstrates the scope of Europe’s worsening migrant crisis.
The people flows into Germany alone are expected to top 1 million this year as desperate asylum seekers flee the war-torn Middle East where the West and Russia are busy taking opposite sides of the Sunni-Shiite divide on the way to facilitating a regional conflict that looks set to spill across the Iraq-Syria border and possibly into Afghanistan.
Indeed, the influx of refugees threatens to destabilize the EU as Germany's insistence on the bloc-wide adoption of an open door policy has infuriated the likes of Hungary's Viktor Orban who insists that if Europe's cultural heritage is to be protected and preserved, a mandatory settlement arrangement simply isn't a viable option.
Meanwhile, Alexis Tsipras - who everyone promptly forgot about once China replaced Greece as the market's focal point - has weighed in from the front lines, expressing shame that the West is at least partially responsible for the migrant crisis due to its role in intentionally destabilizing Mid-East governments.
Now, Helsinki-based Lucify is out with a fascinating, interactive infographic on the refugee flow into Europe which we present below and which should help to illustrate just how dramatic a demographic shift this truly is.
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when certain people in certain nation-states freak out over less than 2% net migration inflows, i ponder the reaction these certain people will have when the rate reaches 20%.
The average birthrate among Muslims in Europe is 8+ per family. For Germans its 1.8. You do the math - by 2050 Germany will be completely Muslim.
There was a book written by Thilo Sarrazin called 'Deutschland Schafft Sich Ab' - loosely translated as 'Germany Abolishes Itself'. Which may be as well - the Germans have developed a very deep self hate (Selbsthass) and German traditions and history (good and bad one) are being rejected, clearly due to guilt as well as 50 years of unmitigated liberalism since the 1968ers took over. It's a complex issue which I can't really cover well in a ZH comment but basically the krauts have stopped procreating. I remember living in Munich back in the 1980s and recall distincitly that you couldn't find an appartment if you had more than one child. Nobody wanted to rent to you - a very child hostile culture had developed, especially in the trendy larger cities.
Other countries should notice. If you destroy your own populace (i.e. Middle Class) and favor economic policies ahead of social policies that support your indigenous citizens then covering up the ensuing generation hole with Millions of immigrants is sure to blow up into your face. I'll leave it at this...
Germans better start breading quickly... Was sure we'd hit 18k before I woke up, maybe tommorrow.
Americans may want to consider going to Europe one last time in the next few years (esp. if you have children).
Europe will be very different in a decade. Likely to be much less tourist friendly.
Allahu Akabar at Notre Dame?
Over my dead body
Lol at the guy who thinks the average muslim family in Europe has 8 children! Wrong century pal.
Average muslim fertility rate is 2.2
Average non muslim fertility rate is 1.5
http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-will-britain-have-a-muslim...
There is some delta there, but inward migration is currently by far the bigger driver.
There's no need to exagerate the facts.
Exactly this.
Unless you are talking Iraq where it is 7.7...
http://www.aneki.com/household_size.html
Strongly suggest you take the following action.
1). Buy a map
2). Locate Europe
3). Locate Iraq
how dare you confuse the situation with facts!
zhers are busy trying to hate muslims, why are you distracting them, you're not a muslim-lover, are you?
< I dislike muslims most
< I dislike the tribe of Globalists who own my country most
I'm not so sure that ZH'ers hate muslims... I think they are more concerned with the problems that are likely to arise from allowing a Globalist engineered massive immigration of new immigrants from fucked up places that will probably not assimilate well into their societies.
Bring out the Big Guns - The Merkelstein
German Chancellor Angela Merkel warned that the Balkans could begin a war if the EU member states close their borders for internal migrants
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF...
That should fix it.
the big crowds, it is because of the peoples, they are going make conference at the paris france evenement, who calls itself Sustainable Innovation Forum
http://www.cop21paris.org/agenda
http://www.cop21paris.org/speakers/event-speakers
http://www.cop21paris.org/speakers/advisory-board
a tout a l'heure!
@ZerOhead
What I dislike most are White people who endorse the destruction of their own race. I hate them with every fiber of my being. On the bright side, they are slowly destroying themselves and the White people left won't be so kind. All you multiculturalists and anti-racists who don't have any kids, you're not going to be polluting the minds of my children with your sick and twisted beliefs. Once you are dead it ends, and I sincerely hope you never rest in peace.
WORLD WAR III!
Blowback!
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/afghanistan-shocking-video-shows-taliban-stonin...
imo household size is not the crucial factor (old folks, grown children, whose to say who's there?)
what counts is total fertility rate and iraq's is 4.0. however iran is 1.9 so it's a mixed bag even in muslim land. http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN
chances are, given the opportunities for women in europe relative to the middle east, the fertility rate for muslim immigrants will be declining.
Ahhhhhh... Dreams of sharia law IN Germany...
PC Elitists Dreams Coming True.
Am I the only one who noticed the real story with this map? Prior to the engineered Ukraine "crisis", the second strongest migratory stream into Europe was from Russia. Afterward, Russia's migration slowed and was petering out.
It's almost like Ukraine woke the Russian populace up to the fact that Europe is even more fucked than they are.
Why do you think so? To my mind the Ukraine "crisis" is very serious tragedy for the world.
stoning crap is horrible and to think it started from the judaic religion...
The great game of the Globalists involves pitting every nation, race, religion, sex and class against each other in order to consolidate their power as they safely rule from above, stoking and contolling the conflict below.
Once you recognize the game for what it is the idea of hating people who merely seek a better and safer life for themselves and their families quickly loses it's appeal... especially when it is "our" governments that are creating "their" problems.
That said more of an effort should be made to send aid to where the refugees are rather than exporting them en mass to Europe or elsewhere. To do that effectively the ZioNazis that run the State Department, CIA, MI6 etc. have to go. With a globalist economic shitstorm on the horizon absorbing these immigrants will be difficult if not impossible and as economic conditions deteriorate civil society is bound to become a whole lot less civil.
The riots that everyone knows will eventually occur will result in defacto police states throughout the entirety of the EU cheered on by the masses of muttonheads too ignorant to understand the nature of the game.
THAT is the Globalists plan.
"It may well be that the Globalists are pitting mooselimbs against their europeean 'hosts' in order to consolidate their power as they safely rule from above"
...in the meantime these european hosts are being flooded with Mooselimbs!
It's going to get real ugly.
Kind of like when Greece occassionally ends up in flames except all over Europe.
Even if it requires eurocops themselves to be the ones starting the fires...
So at the next meeting of the Bilderbergs, we drop the nuke?
I wonder if any of the hundreds of men with access to nuclear weapons in the worlds militaries ever thought about nuking the Bilderbergs...
Unfortunately, I don't think the men with access to such weapons (as in the authority or clearance to launch) are allowed into such positions until they are heavily vetted by Bilderberg-approved procedures. Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if the flag-level officers in charge of such weapons were themselves occasionally on the invitee list for their annual shindigs.
You can safely bet that the media would then try to make it look like the guy that fired the nuke was the bad guy...
Wow, Zero...I am impressed by your ability to put forward TRUTH and having it properly recognized. I guess when I do it, the foam around my mouth kind of turns people off...
+1, and more if I could
Thanks
Less foam and keep it simple... the fewer brain cells used in the writing process means fewer brain cells are needed to understand...
so being against racism is "twisted"?
I fail to understand how encouraging worldwide illegal immigration is going to help anything.
Though I suppose if all the illegals coming into the U.S. and all the refugees flooding into Europe were called "settlers" that sheds the bright light of legitimacy on all the interracial carnage we're seeing worldwide.
They are going to push hard for a system of global control run by globalists.
If successful it will be in place before anyone understands what just happened.
These are the times that I miss Harper and Abbot
Balkans stopped the Islam invasion for centuries - will do it again, but for the last time. After that they will walk over western europe together with the eastern slavic nations to be sure no more loose
ends remain so they'll have to do the service over and over again - mark my words.
i am unclear on the words to mark. are the balkans to walk over the eastern slavic nations as well as europe or are the balkans and the slavs walking over europe?
i'm taking notes and don't want to get it wrong.
once you get a handle on your dislexia i bet you'll get it easy ... with stupidity, not so much hope ...
well said
Thanks.
If all the fucked over peoples on the planet don't understand the nature of the problem we will never be able to find and implement a solution. This is no time to hate... it's a time for everyone to begin to understand.
i don't dislike muslims
but i do dislike the religion...
starting to make muslim friends now but don't care for their religion
i am agnostic
Muslims don't like you. It's a religious thing.
Insallah infidel!
Don’t think anyone is hating anyone but if you think just because you show up on my yard I now have a responsibility to feed/clothe/house/transport/healthcare etc. you are fucking crazy and you will get off my property.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NelBNtNm8l0
two hoots:
That's what we in Brussels and ZATO call a "bad attitude." For that you will be force fed at least five angry young Muslim men to live with you and your beautiful three daughters and gracious wife in your pleasant country home. So make room for them.
Let it happen again and you will be scheduled for a Beheading in the next available slot.
Black.Swan.Event.
zionism, the gift that keeps on giving aka hitler lives beyond the grave.
Yeah, you do know it was the Zionist Puppet States of the UK, USA, and USSR that took out Hitler, right?
Funny thing is, it isn't the Muslim "refugees," that are to blame...
It's individuals like George Soros and Barbara Lerner Specter...who preach and advocate for the destruction of Europe while promoting the defense of their racial nation in the near East. It's the sellout politicians who have bought into the one world government theories and have sold their people out.
Barbara Lerner Specter
Duuude - I just put up a link to a YT about her. Unbelievable, people ARE waking up!
If most of the refugees come from Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, and Iraq
then the map is totally wrong.
well i'm not sure exactly who is behind whom but for my money, even if it is professional wrestling, george w. bush and barack obama deserve a large part of the blame. too bad nothing will happen to them other than forcing more wealth and accolades on them.
the places and people that don't revere them they don't want to go or know.
Nah... you can go to Iraq. ; )
We need to figure out where these refugees are coming from and why? Seems reactive and not proactive? Why are they coming to Germany, what did the Germans do to deserve that added eternal expense?
They are coming from countries that the Globalists in the State Department (CIA) are trying to destabilize and overthrow.
They are going to Germany because that is where I would be going if I were them although England and Holland also sound nice...
A brain drain no doubt. (no sarc this time)
you can be sure. the smartest and most ambitious ones leave. it has been argued that on average hitler caught the slower, duller, (and poorer) jews. anne frank would be the exception.
it takes generations but the strength of the u.s. in some ways was the melting pot. not everyone got totally melted but you still don't hear as much yiddish in brooklyn as you used to.
and it's not as if germany has nowhere to put them, http://www.dw.com/en/german-villages-hit-by-depopulation/a-16374913
Why are they coming to Germany, what did the Germans do to deserve that added eternal expense?
Are you serious?? Frau Merkel's welcome mat could be seen from the ISS. When a welfare state says they are open for business, clientele will come. She suffers from the same suicidal thought that infected (and thankfully poisoned) Jeb Bush.
"But who is going to pay for Larssen's fat ass in retirement? <wrings hands> We need to import some wooooorkers"
I think there are plenty of legit Copts and Syrian Christian refugees to allow in that fulfills humanitarian goals. What is happening now will end badly and the Larssen's of the world should pay the freight for it. Europe cannot become Muslim, period. Doctrinaire Marxist Jews with their multi-culti programs like Paideia only put the blade to their own stupid necks.
Did you notice that a lot of these new "refugees" are from Iraq?
I did. But I have to give it to them I sure as fuck would get out of Iraq. Wouldn't you?
One episode of Bay Watch is all it would take to convince me to try and walk to Murica
Nice.
Or Miami Vice.(Mmmmmm....Pastel Suits)
Um... There's a map above that if I'm not mistaken suggests that many of those in Iraq are going for a walk. Maybe he won't need to buy one.
Look at that stream from "off camera" - Afghan and Paki on the move as well. Chechens anyone? Shit will get real and the world will clamor for a "man of peace"... they will get the one they deserve, good and hard.
But eventually President Not Sure will save us. With toilet water no less!
Persons per household is not the same as fertility rate. If mother and father live at home, subtract 2 right off the bat. Then there could be other family members like a mother-in-law or grandmother living there as well.
As of 2014, this link says it's 3.41, still high though.
"Average muslim fertility rate is 2.2"
Don't forget to multiply the 2.2 by the average 3.6 wives per family...
7.92.
Are you some kind of wizard.
Math is hard.
Yup, figuring out how a population of mostly males is going to take over by reproducing at a higher rate than the natives is hard math.
Maybe its like Jurassic Park? Even though they only have boy muslims nature will find a way!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uNBoUqGvVs
Humor and sarcasm is harder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VJyKRwQHHM
One last thing:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
Average Catholic Latin American birth rate is??? Average Statist FSA, welfare mom birth rate is?
r/K Selection at work.
Pathological Altruism at work.
Great Job, Germany. Let's hold hands and hope that millions of illiterate, unskilled Third World peasants are going to pay for Hans & Frans' retirement packages.
You may be neck deep in hostile human waste, but at least no one will call you Racist.
Nevermind, they'll still call you xenophobic, bigoted, racist Nazis for not surrendering fast enough.
Am sure Channel 4 blog is the last word on population data...you might want to rethink thatsource..on the other hand ....Pew Research Center says Muslims have greater reproduction rates...3.1 compared to 1.7 in the west. Globally, the Muslim population is forecast to grow at about twice the rate of the non-Muslim population over the next two decades – an average annual growth rate of 1.5% for Muslims, compared with 0.7% for non-Muslims. If current trends continue, Muslims will make up 26.4% of the world’s total projected population of 8.3 billion in 2030, up from 23.4% of the estimated 2010 world population of 6.9 billion.http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/04/23/why-muslims-are-the-worl... fact IS HOMOGENOUS SOCITIES ARE STABLE SOCIETIES...usually includes higher IQ. The fact is muslim society also tends to inbreeding. The rates of genetic abnormalities among muslims is about 3 times that of the West. That means scarcre resources will be used disproportionately by the migrants...which means an over burdened welfare system will be even more so. If you are okay with that...you have a bigger problem then can be dealt with in a ZH post.
Yep, Zerg Rush is a strategy. Cat Lady is a great way to get your face chewed off.
Clearly you have never been to the Middle East.
THAT'S 2.2 PER WIFE IDIOT AND THE KORAN ALLOWS THEM 4 WIVES (except in Saudi, in Saudi number of wives is limited only by your income. Bin Laden Senior had something like 60 wives)
Oy vey! What a mashugana Christmas that would be!
occidental - you are only half right. the single male refugee will eventually bring in 30 family members. unlike the first world, mussies still live in extended families like we did in 1910. so they will be a major impact on the race makeup. it will happened a lot faster than 2050 also. try 2-5 years. he families are probably already on their way....
The real saving question is?
what is the birth rate of the jews
@ Occident Mortal
Here is a non-exaggerated fact for you:
Late last year Swedish police declared 53 "no go " zones throughout Sweden all of them in overwhelmingly Muslim dominated immigrant areas, admitting they could not control these areas. These areas commonly inforce sharia law and indigenous swedes dare not go into these areas. Also, your stats don't take into account that the 87% of the invaders/rapefugees, which are all male and between the ages of 18-40, will be allowed to bring in the rest of their extended families once they are processed. There is no exaggeration of the ongoing white genocide in both Europe and the rest of western civilization.
Father who has been on benefits for a decade claims he is NOT irresponsible for having ELEVEN children - because it is 'God's command to go forth and multiply - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3293843/Father-claimed-benefit...
Muslim men in UK having 20 KIDS with multiple wives' and it's legal under Sharia law - http://jdem.cz/buhsn2
Father who has been on benefits for a decade claims he is NOT irresponsible for having ELEVEN children - because it is 'God's command to go forth and multiply - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3293843/Father-claimed-benefit...
Muslim men in UK having 20 KIDS with multiple wives' and it's legal under Sharia law - http://jdem.cz/buhsn2
"over your dead body"
Let's keep the end of Europe story straight. Either 90% of these people are male OR only 50% of them are male and will fuck their way to power
You cant have it both ways.
Unless those Kraut ladies like them some sweet caramel lovin.....
On the plus side "over my dead body has it right. There is a much better chance that the hungry broke hopeless horde will kill you rather than out-fuck you.
ever been to Constantinople? Where the mosque are former churches?
Elsewhere, The Dome of the Rock.
now come on... how can one not conclude that ZHers hate migrants when one looks at the possitive appreciation this comment is getting.
you can down me all want but I'd like an answer if anybody's got one, I sure like this site very much.
We just cancelled our European river cruise and will not be rescheduling. European tourism is going to come to a screeching halt if their leaders don't wake up and stop this madness.
It can't be stopped now even if they wanted to. Not without rivers of blood.
This has been caused by rivers of blood. What's the big deal, just more of the same.
Egypt is very nice this time of year except for the insurrection thingy.
We almost pulled the trigger on one of those Danube cruises. Next summer will be too late.
"European tourism is going to come to a screeching halt if..."
eh? why?
take Greece. take all the articles where we were discussing the Greek Crisis while they were having the refugee crisis that was not been discussed...
... except in photos depicting refugees but claiming to show Greeks, for propaganda purposes
Greece had one of the best tourist seasons... during this refugee crisis at it's height, this very year
Geordies
Have seen who taking up all the accommodations in Greece lately? The entire resort island of Lagos is nothing but invaders from the ME as is the case with a good portion of the rest of he hotels in Europe. Yes " tourism" is great but not from tourists. As usual your arguments are disingenuous .
They might skip the akbhar there and just blow it up instead. Eliminate the middleman, so to speak.
The wife was just there. Walking the streets of Frankfurt, she said everyone was Afghani. A friend from the U.K. says her family won't be going back to visist anymore, it's no longer their home. Stupid f---ing post-modern dumbasses, surrendering their countries even before the war was officially declared. Pathetic. Take note, America. We are not far behind.
Idiot Germans. This is what happens when you make self loathing an artform.
Uh.... I believe that it was the World that had a problem with our early Twentieth Century reforms.
(Not speaking for the group, mind you.)
Is anyone else having a problem with their replies not attaching to the correct posts?
NOT going to happen. German woman are aborting en masse and are focused on their careers. There is NO WAY they can keep up with Muslim birthnumbers. I hate to say this but I think the ship sailed for Europeans about ten years ago. Given the influx of immigrants the German race is doomed short of the closing of borders and immediate mass deportations. And we all know that ain't ever happen as the fear of being called a Nazi has rendered even moderate conservatives incapable of reaching more than 8% in national elections (that is NOW after mass immigration and children and young women being raped almost every week in Germany cities).
So this is going to happen, folks. Over the next few years we'll see about 10 - 20 Million more people head into Germany, Sweden, France, Holland, etc. The next national elections in most of those countries will be around 2017 or 2018 (Germany and Austria). By then the conservatives will receive a larger percentage - probably around 30% - 40% but not enough to reach a majority. As in the Vienna elections recently the left parties will then form a coalation to lock out the conservatives - we have Red/Green coalitions pretty much running Europe in the past two decades.
After that the left is going to double down. By 2022 people may finally wake up and start voting for conservatives but by then it'll be WAY too late. I mean fuck it - it's already too late right now! Even if they closed the Schengen borders tomorrow and kicked illegals out Europe would be ruled by a Muslim majority by 2050 just based on the population growth of the legal immigrant population (plus their German born children). If the current flow of migrants continues it'll happen most likely by 2030.
So like I said earlier - Europe is fucked. Visit now while you still can.
Oh, the drama.
Things rarely go as predicted, plus you excluded military coups.
Exactly Joe, people always underestimate how bat shit crazy things can go when people are pushed to a breaking point... history is littered with such events.
1917 and 1933 ring a bell?
:) It can and will happen again.
Strong Roots in 1870.
Only question is, will Europe deteriorate to the level of shitholes like Detroit, Baltimore etc.
Only question is, will Europe deteriorate to the level of shitholes like Detroit, Baltimore etc.
Europe is fucked but not because of any of the reasons mentioned in your post.
The monetary union without fiscal union where socialist countries are handcuffed to prudent industrialist countries is a much bigger problem than the current levels of immigration which you have wildly exaggerated.
Germany is 91.5% ethnic German
Current racial make up of Germany (2015)
German 91.5%, Turkish 2.4%, Italian 0.7%, Greek 0.4%, Polish 0.4%, other 4.6%
Compare that to
Current racial make up of USA (2015)
White: 75.1%; Black: 12.3%; Asian: 3.6%; American Indian and Alaska Native: 0.9%; Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander: 0.1%; other race: 5.5%; Hispanic origin:1 12.5%
It's not about race. It overlaps but it's about education, culture and religion.
Except when data collected over 100 years shows great differentiation among the races in IQ, conscientiousness, time preference, and violence.
So yeah, it's about race.
Even when Europe gets the Globalist bankers much hoped for fiscal union they are still fucked because new debt must be continually created in either the private or public sectors or the system collapses.
The real problem is the criminal nature of the "money out of thin air" banking system and the political parties that are owned by it.
Nothing will improve until it is abolished and the lack of debate ANYWHERE on this important matter tells me it will never be abolished.
Let the Banker's race wars commence...
Well, those inmigrants know the real value of GOLD. They've trading wiht it for thousands of years. "Tradition" as Bernanke said.
Thats why Germany doesn't need con-servatives. They need nationalists, radicals, militants.
NPD is the way to go. They have been, and are, sounding the alarm about this invasion and have named the culprits since the beginning. Anything less than mass action and militancy is failure. Con-servativism is just a slower death, not a reversal of the rot.
Germans know who they are. When they have had enough they will elect/install a leader that will provide a..... solution.. not a doubt in my mind, and good for them.
I said a long time ago that Islam is the future. It is the new religion, the West has destroyed their own population with depraved modernism. It's over for the West and as we go down we will drag all those jews who promoted this pornography called "western liberal democracy" with us.
See ya~
Happy I am old~
Don't bother to write~
are you quoting... Adolf Hitler?
I know, I know, the Greatest Leader Of All Times is one of those most misused sources in blogs, and the "reversal to Hitler" often a bad sign of trollish deterioration of the discussion, but really, he did say the equivalent of your first paragraph, and evidence for this is available through various sources
he went though only into changing in school the Christian "Our Father" prayer into the Nazi "Our Leader" prayer, and got slightly distracted by war, later
Yeah, he wasn't a bad guy except for the megalomaniac psychopathy part.
Early days he was fun at the beer garden and bought a lot of rounds.
well, he wanted people to listen to him in the "Bierhallen", of course he bought beers. but he did not drink, was a vegetarian and against smoking
Good Lord, Man! I could never eat a breaded German!
Try the breaded veal cutlets instead.
I ate one that was pickled.
She was very tasty but she started hurking.
Leave it to a German to ruin a good time.
A good muslim boy would have held her hair.
Germans better start breading quickly...[sic]
I would LOVE to help them out with that.
http://brosome.com/top-20-sexiest-german-girls/
The only policitician in Europe who has done right by his people is Victor Orbán, the PM of Hungary. SOB watches this shit for a week and then basically closed all borders. Has resisted Mama Merkel's pressure to take on a shitload of freeloaders - but he stands alone along with a handful other Eastern European countries (I think Czechosolovakia and Poland - although i recall the PM of Poland backstabbed his electorate when pressured).
Anyway, I leave it at that. To all you yanks I recommend that you visit Northern Europe in the next two years. This will be your last opportunity to experience native Europe with its ancient traditions relatively intact. The changes that are coming in the coming decade will lead to civil war in at least one W. European country. Assuming those pussifed Europeans can muster up the mojo to launch a resistance and frankly I have my doubts.
Yes, I think you are right.
It's weird (for me anyway) that so few national leaders in Europe are interested in protecting Europe's Christian heritage. I just cannot understand that.
Sam Francis covered it around 20 years ago, building on the earlier work of James Burnham. They are the "New Class", whose only goal is to rule.
The people's sole reason for existence is to fulfil the schemes and ambitions of those who rule and nation (a people with a common history, heritage
and culture), represents a restraint on the wealth and power of both the New Class and other elitists and globalists and therefore must be destroyed.
Throw the usual suspects into the mix, so skillfully analyzed by Professor Kevin MacDonald and you have big trouble for the descendents of Christendom.
That being said, you already have the French miliary preparing for the "reappropriation of national territory" so things will be heating up sooner rather
than later:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11826862/Airline...
Poland had elections a week ago and booted the "back stabber".
Not a single left-wing party was elected in Poland - all right wing (my kind of country - in fact it is) and the winner is Euro-Skeptic.
Best of luck to Ukip, Front National, & Pegida - again you western Europeans didn't learn from the last time that Poland+Germany had to clean up Europe. Nobody wants to be a true patriot anymore - everyone's scared of being called a racist.
We k ow you are a rightwing nutjon ballsack cunt.
This is a clear case of cultural suicide. "The people" don't have the common sense, the energy or the guts or the pride in themselves to save their civilizations. Sweden is already gone. Germany is next with many to follow. Oh, and refugees? No, these are 95% "gimme free stuff migrants". Just imagine for a moment what will happen when these freebies eventually run out. And they'll run out on one single day just like an economic collapse. That will be a day of mass murder and robbery almost unequaled in the human experience. And when these Countries finally recover they'll be 100% Muslim. The whole point ofcourse. A truly incredible time to be alive. Like watching Krakatoa or the fall of Rome. Soak it all in. Your grand-kids will want a first hand account.
A "native" Europe whose ethnic groups and traditions have been shaped, time and again, by the very dynamics you are now crying a river over.
I'd call this hilarious, but I will instead advise you to read a book on European history.
I know you are taking that white baby to kill it somewhere. Maybe eat it when your benefits run out.
Due to the poisonous influence of this closet racism, children like my son aren't considered "white" by Western society, regardless of how light-skinned they might be. They are regarded as mixed or "biracial", and are categorized by their appearance rather than being weighed by their potential or personality. Because of this, they are liable to experience racial discrimination in their lives in the same way that many people of color also experience it. By instigating this climate, you turn me against you and all that you stand for. A parent does not stand idly by when their child is being treated as second rate.
The right-wing is its own worst problem. You will not stop dividing and exlcuding others over ignorant, petty and superficial issues until only one man and his Dachshund are left. This is why you have no future. Not because of desperate Syrian refugees.
eirik, thank you for being one of the few voices of reason and normalcy on zh
not sure why people on this site, who for the most part are fairly intelligent, indulge in irrational hatred of everyone of differing race, culture, ethnic background.
i think it has to do with wanting to blame someone else for their problems, not being able to look inward and accept responsibility.
I'll tell you why people have a dislike of having their culture, race and heritage obliterated:
It's because White Europeans have a unique culture, a unique heritage, a unique pheno and genotype that deserves protection. The same as any other indigenous population from the Amazon rainforest to Cyprus--the native population deserves a right to live without undue pressure, displacement and destruction brought on by outside forces.
Just as much as it was wrong for Whites to occupy lands in Africa and lord it over the native populations there, it's the same for Whites in Europe being lorded over by "their" sellout politicians and invaders who come in.
Don't kid yourself into thinking the human animal is much different than any other, ultimately. We're territorial, we're clan-focused and we prefer people who look similar to us, act similarly to us, and live similarly to us. This is across the board. And it's natural and RIGHT this is the way it is. You can't try to break the natural order of things by silly neo-marxist notions and one-world'isms...nature abhors a vacuum, and if you eliminate sanity, INSANITY will take it's place. And it will be corrected in some way.
Invasive species are NOT good for the native flora and fauna. This goes from Kudzu to invasive mold species to beetles to people--we're no different, we only like to THINK we are. It is natural and GOOD for each racial group to have a place on this earth to call uniquely their own. This allows for the beautiful diversity of nature to continue, not to be replaced by sameness, ugliness, conflict and strife. Why force people of differing races, cultures, etc.. to compete in a small living space? Why import outsiders into a place and artificially try to exterminate the natives? It happened in the US, and I can guarantee you that the Asiatic "indians," who were displaced suffered because of it.
Good fences make for good neighbors. Europe should stay European.
"It's because White Europeans have a unique culture, a unique heritage, a unique pheno and genotype that deserves protection"
this is a very, very American point of view that you won't find in Europe, not this way, except as... cultural import
face it, in America you are having culture wars, and half of the comments here in this article are from culture warriors
Europeans see this continent as having multiples, various versions, each unique, of what you are talking about, each strongly rooted in a territory they occupy since centuries if not millennia
Europeans also make a huge difference between their cities, particularly the big ones, and their pocket landscapes, often recognizable by local dialect
this makes the whole way more differentiated, and hardly comparable to the projections a few do here
yes, many are "...territorial, we're clan-focused and we prefer people who look similar to us, act similarly to us, and live similarly to us."
and this is generating the American phenomenon of people grouping by similarities into zip-codes, in America
but in Europe... that's how it always was. Pick any region or province here and check
and that's the reason why assimilation works differently, in Europe. It's less focused on race or religion and way more on speaking the correct dialect locally and behaving in the correct cultural way in key things. It takes longer, it works deeper, too
this is an old place, and this kind of things happened several times, here. I'm not saying that it's a stroll in the park (in fact it's a huge pressure on many things), I'm just saying that most of the projections here do not address the (local) specifics here, and so are simply discussing American issues, not European ones
recently I visited a winemaker friend in a quite typical european "pocket" cultural area. sat at his wine-making main building, where, in a tradition that goes back to manorialism, all the workers joined. He has Poles, Ukrainians, people from the Balkans and now two families from Syria. Hearing that local dialect from them, seeing them eating the local foods and... hearing them exposing opinions that go back for centuries just reinforced this opinion of mine. That's assimilation, European style, outside of the big cities. Everybody at that table, their next generation will be as local as it can get, if only more blue-eyed and blond then the locals. The Syrians, btw, were blond, too, in that way some Turks are. But culturally, the most assimilated were the few Eritreans that came half a generation ago. And this generated jokes about the salads the Easterners were eating, and laughter when they offered some to me to try
in short, when Americans talk about culture, particularly one culture, based on few key characteristics, Europeans go like "eh? that's not culture, you have no bloody idea what you are talking about"
Fantastic answer Ghordius!
Take my home country, for example. If you read history books about Portugal, you will see that at the pinnacle of the Empire they had the biggest influx of people from other nations. The exchange of ideas, values and goods helped the Portuguese to grow. Maritime voyages were possible, thanks to a myriad of people that contributed to the project. If you take a closer look, you will see that this is true. The historic part of Lisbon - the Alfama - is a testimony to a time where Islamic and Jewish and Christian people lived door by door. It enriched our society! The famous "Portuguese Tiles" are moorish, the sweet crystalized candies on the most famous cake (bolo rei) is also moorish. Jewish medical knowledge abounded at Portuguese courts.
Today we have an "immigrant quarter" in Lisbon, called Mouraria and Martim Moniz. A couple of weeks ago a Chinese shop owner started practicing Tai Chi in the public park. I saw him day after day. Last week I had a good laugh, because an older Portuguese guy joined him and now also a Pakistani is part of the group. I see on Sundays young guys from Bangladesh, Pakistan and also Portuguese and Chinese kids playing fucking cricket together! Last week a second generation Chinese kid was telling me a joke, in perfect Portuguese and even with the cultural slant that is typical for us. It really cracked me up.
I think Ghordius is right. Americans don't understand Europe and try to apply Americas problems to Europe.
Now, let the bashing begin!
Oh, before I forgot. My muslim neighbors all drink red wine with me! Once far away from their home land, maybe they found out that prohibitions about alcohol are unnecessary! :)
"Last week a second generation Chinese kid was telling me a joke, in perfect Portuguese and even with the cultural slant that is typical for us. It really cracked me up."
the little cute genetic invader softened your heart with his mastery of your culture and heritage and so made himself a Child of Your Culture, to be protected by you
yes, that's the way the Portuguese Empire did his gig, and yes it underlines what I am trying to explain to the Cousins Overseas
by his mastery of the "cultural slant", he showed you among other things that he has the same core values that you have, and so he is... Portuguese
I would not wonder if he will be able to explain the writings of Pessoa, or enjoy Fado
no comparison possible to the blacks that build up their own "cultural slants" in America, their own cultural values, their own sub-cultures, including their own cultural products like black music, or Black Resentment, which has a counterpart into White Resentment
no comparison to many groups in America that call themselves "Scottish", or "Irish", or "German" and are flabbergasted and flabbergasting when visiting the "Old Country"
Ghordius, looks like you spent all night boning up for this one..
you say there is so many different cultures between big city and small and regions in europe..yet you claim they all assimilate large numbers of muslims the same..that is extraordinary. bravo.
merkel must of paid you well to post your illogical view of europe..and the idiot idea that mixing millions into europe will be a success like falling off a long..this is your death, well not you - the elite will take care of you.
overmed, I'm not saying half of what you are writing here. specifically, I am not claiming that they will be assimilated. in fact I am strongly worried about pockets of them that won't be assimilated, and the associated misery that might come out of that
I am just highlighting a more common european point of view about things like that
last time we truly felt there were too many "others" around... well, I just visited Krakow, lately. clean streets, only Polish genomes walking around. you know why?
I'm sorry, but when you talk about "White Culture" we do go like "Eh?". Culture, for us, is very important but it's in the brain, not on the skin
Do I want to see the continent overrun by trash? no. Am I concerned and worried? yes. But differently from your narrative in your young country
Ghordius, looks like you spent all night boning up for this one..
you say there is so many different cultures between big city and small and regions in europe..yet you claim they all assimilate large numbers of muslims the same..that is extraordinary. bravo.
merkel must of paid you well to post your illogical view of europe..and the idiot idea that mixing millions into europe will be a success like falling off a log..this is your death, well not you - the elite will take care of you.
a duplicate of yours, so I'll give a different answer, one regarding... elites
I have news that might shock you. elite? well... that's me, too, I am afraid. I see Merkel working for me, among the other busybodies we ordain as ministers of state, here
I do, from a sociological point of view, exibit classical elite characteristics, and this you can see in what I write
one of them is sympathy for the lower classes. something middle classes do way less
another is wariness for middle class... political excesses. then middle classes often try to bang the rudder hard to one side and then hard to the other side... without reflecting how slow both states and societies react to changes of course
I can't change the fact that some idiots are waging the Great Proxy War, which is causing this Great Immigrant Tragedy
I won't support the buildup of a Great Wall Of Europe... After the Great Moat of Europe (aka Med) failed spectacularly
Yes, I am elite insofar as that I focus on how things are, not how they ought to be. This is an oddball thrown at us, let's see how we catch it instead of moaning. Time will tell
so don't blame Merkel. blame me. or tell me what the heck we were supposed to do when Dubya went to Iraq. some of us tried to stop him, remember?
Freedom Fries? That was like sending the Statue of Liberty back. Which the French really ought to get back, if this goes on
but Americans thought he would be "a fun guy to have a beer with", and believed the propaganda. and now we have this collateral damage
Ghordius, I understand ..times today in USA and EU are not stable.
Merkel is adding fuel to a fire.(as are the pols on this side)
the elites today seem to view themselves as other than :English, German, French or American. above the old notions of loyalty to anything but wealth and power.
They, I would maintain are rudderless building on sand.
I wish you well..you have given much to ZH over the years..
we both may be blinded, but I would hope we still remain human.
yes, OverMed. I have German and French nieces, American nephews and nieces, Italian, Austrian, British, Spanish, Portuguese and Greek godchildren (simplified)
I have multiple loyalties. Am I supposed to hate you or America for Iraq and this byproduct blowback? Am I supposed to hate those refugees? Jews? Blacks? Gays? "Them"?
"I have multiple loyalties. "
Identity is a hierarchy of loyalties (so I read).
Ghordius, Hate? you misunderstood so much..I thought we were talking policy, laws and regulations and the enforcement of same..unjustice as in muzzle free speech for those who do not support the PC/EU agenda (LBGT for example) or crimes by ethnic groups who control much of finance/msm (jews)..is it hate? or anti-thought control?
multiple loyalties can be viewed as having none. What you should be doing is reversing the current chaos of refugees - that is not hate, it's stopping madness.
"that mixing millions into europe will be a success"
Define success.
Hint : the answer might differ based on "your" perspective, elite versus lower working class. This is class warfare.
My sense is that Merkel is done. Her politcal capital is "spent".
"It's because White Europeans have a unique culture, a unique heritage, a unique pheno and genotype that deserves protection."
well, I have a frigging pedigree that goes back (in parts) for millennia
I exibit racial genotype expressions that reinforce this claim of this pedigree, particularly the partial descent from the Gothic Invasion: blond, blue-eyed, cheese-eating
protection? I don't think so. fact is that most people don't understand human genetics, particularly the role of recessive genes
you have to worry about degeneration, not recessive genes. those fend off for themselves very, very well
take the Neanderthaler: he is not extinct, he still lives in my genome, and I see him everywhere
Why not live in the more accepting cultural environment of the people that your son's mother hails from? Obviously, they're more "tolerant," and accepting than rightwingers, and you'd not find discrimination and resentment there.
Why must the host nation's peoples suffer because you want to live in a borderless, orderless antheap of a world?
I don't know you, nor do I know your son--I bear neither of you ill will, especially not him because he had no choice in the matter of where he was born and who he was born unto. However, for you to condemn the host nation where you live because they have brave men and women who want to keep your people unique and your nation safe is wrong on your part; it is unfair and tyrannical in its own right.
I dunno about Euroland but here in 'Merika that labelling shit is 100% left wing. No conservative cares what race you are when filling out some kind of application. Thug lefties gotta be all up in yo bidness about dat shit doe. Dey gotta be havin sum kinda label for everyone and everything.
Let us not forget, the Nazis and the Commies sat side by each on the right-left paradigm (far left and farther left). The only difference between them was HOW the government controlled every aspect of the slaves' lives.
I'll take right wing every day of the week. That would mean a tiny government unable to care what race/religion/sex/sign we are.
You lefties are so blind to your own suicide. It is very sad. Why must you keep breeding? All it does is cause more bloodshed.