US Officials: ISIS "Likely" Had Bomb On Russian Plane

Tyler Durden's picture

On Wednesday, IS Sinai released a statement reiterating the contention that the Russian passenger jet which fell out of the sky over the Sinai Peninsula last weekend was “downed” by an act of terrorism. The ISIS “home office” (so to speak) in Raqqa aired a video congratulating their Egyptian “brothers” on the “achievement.”

In the immediate aftermath of the crash, officials attempted to discredit the ISIS video which purported to show the plane exploding in mid-air. While we were quick to note that it’s virtually impossible to verify the video’s authenticity, we also pointed out that if the footage was indeed genuine, someone on the ground knew exactly when to start filming which would certainly seem to suggest that whatever happened to the Russian jet was premeditated. 

Whatever one chooses to believe, evidence continues to pile up to support the contention that the plane broke apart in the sky - i.e. that the plane exploded. 

For instance, an Egyptian forensics expert noted that the scattering of body parts over an eight kilometer radius seems to prove that there was an explosion of board. Meanwhile the UK on Wednesday suspended flights from Sharm el-Sheikh in Egypt after saying that the Russian jet “may well” have been destroyed by an “explosive device.” 

That seemed to indicate that Western governments were set to “confirm” ISIS’ contention that a bomb is to blame for the crash. 

Now, Western media are reporting that according to US “intelligence”, an ISIS bomb was indeed the cause of the catastrophe that claimed the lives of 224 people last Saturday. Here’s Reuters:

Evidence now suggests that a bomb planted by the Islamic State militant group is the likely cause of last weekend's crash of a Russian airliner over Egypt's Sinai peninsula, U.S. and European security sources said on Wednesday.

 

Islamic State, which controls swathes of Iraq and Syria and is battling the Egyptian army in the Sinai Peninsula, said again on Wednesday it brought down the airplane, adding it would eventually tell the world how it carried out the attack.

 

The Airbus A321M crashed on Saturday in the Sinai Peninsula shortly after taking off from the resort of Sharm el-Sheikh on its way to the Russian city of St Petersburg, killing all 224 people on board.

 

The U.S. and European security sources stressed they had reached no final conclusions about the crash.

And here's more from NBC:

There's significant evidence that a bomb brought down Russia's Metrojet Flight 9268 over the Sinai Peninsula last weekend, U.S. officials told NBC News on Wednesday, saying U.S. investigators are focusing on ISIS operatives or sympathizers as the likely bombers.


Questions have swirled over whether foul play or terrorism may have downed the Metrojet-operated Airbus A321 since it crashed in Egypt on Saturday, killing all 224 people aboard. ISIS's media office in Sinai released an audio message Wednesday reiterating its claim of responsibility. Neither Wednesday's claim nor an earlier one immediately after the crash said how ISIS is supposed to have brought down the plane.


U.S. officials stressed that while they believe it's "likely" that a bomb was on the plane, it's still too early to conclude that for certain. They told NBC News that mechanical failure remains a possibility.


A U.S. official said investigators are looking at the possibility that an explosive device was planted aboard the plane by ground crews, baggage handlers or other ground staff at the Sharm el-Sheikh airport before takeoff. Passengers and the flight crew weren't significantly suspected after intelligence scrub of the passenger manifest and the crew showed no one with suspected ties to any terrorist group, officials said.


Three top officials at the airport, including the head of security, were fired Wednesday after investigators uncovered numerous lax security procedures, officials told NBC News.

So apparently, US officials have more evidence about what happened to this plane than either the Russians or the Egyptians do and Washington is now confident enough to say that ISIS is "likely" responsible. 

Needless to say, there are any number of questions that should be asked here, but at least NBC gets one thing right: 

A U.S. official told NBC News he expects Russia to retaliate "heavily and militarily" if the theory is borne out.

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Paveway IV's picture

Err... Tyler quoting not one but TWO well-respected sources of journalism: Reuters and NBC? <snort!> 

Didn't the brain trust/experts at CNN or Bloomberg have any spew to use?

Latina Lover's picture

Naw, they are just reading the latest scripts issued by the USSA state department,  now totally confused since Putin took them off message. The same state department ass clowns that told us that the Russian Military was third rate, and Russia was isolated, blah, blah, blah until Putin showed the world otherwise. 

What else could you expect from these losers?

FYI, I once met a state dept. official who in a previous life was a 'Russian' expert, yet could not read or write in Cyrillic .

Supernova Born's picture

if this is true it demonstrates that regardless of the name they go by, Putin is fighting and killing the type of scum that blow up civilian airliners.

I hope US "folks" don't impede Putin.

yomutti's picture
yomutti (not verified) Supernova Born Nov 4, 2015 10:42 PM

Don't be stupid. Despite the wackoism you read here, the US obviously had nothing to do with creating ISIS. The core of ISIS is just a bunch of ex-Saddam military guys looking for  a new gig. We won't be sorry to see them all dead. 

If the Russkies are the ones doing the killing, that's no problem.  Although it would be a real change of pace. So far the Russians have concentrated on other groups more directly threating their pet dictator, and they have barely scratched ISIS.

 

 

Berspankme's picture

If you think all you read here is wackoism why do you come here? Pretty well established ISIS is armed by Western .gov. Picture of McCain with ISIS leaders is photoshop I suppose? People who defend US actions in the formation of ISIS have a lot of blood on their hands

highandwired's picture

This is for the sheep that stumble upon this site...this is Putin explaining very succinctly who created ISIS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-xbnuvr7c

rccalhoun's picture

send every TSA person to russia,,, now!

Latina Lover's picture

" Despite the wackoism you read here, the US obviously had nothing to do with creating ISIS. The core of ISIS is just a bunch of ex-Saddam military guys looking for  a new gig. We won't be sorry to see them all dead. "

Thank you, Yomutti, or YoYamuke, for confirming  my preliminary theories:

-USSA is behind ISIS

-ISIS is not comprised primarily of ex Iraqi Mil types.

-The ISIS assets must be protected until we figure out what to do with them.

As a minium wage stooge repeating his talking points, it saves me the effort of  reading the MSM BS, summarizing the core lies the USSA state department wants us to believe.

Bring the Gold's picture

Still too early to conclude...yeah, but you guys knew it was Bin Laden within what 3 hours of 9/11? But still too early to conclude what we saw with video, forensic evidence, satellite surveillance and god only knows how much more communications intercept technoology.

Bay of Pigs's picture

Gold and silver were smashed to bits with the fake Bin Laden false flag event. Same with the Boston Bombing (2011 and 2013).

Karl von Bahnhof's picture

This was poor message from hegemon - stop killing our ISIS assets. But this cowardly action will not stop russia.

HowdyDoody's picture

The West wants Russia to start bombing in response to the 'supposed' bomb, which the US/UK are certain existed and was placed by ISIS. My guess, they are hoping that Russia does a massive 'shock and awe' with many civilian casualties so he can be accussed of being a mass murderer of poor innocent civilians.

First Law of Putin Club: Putin does not do what the West wants him to do.

 

Majestic12's picture

"US Officials"

Is all you need to know that this is complete Kerry "Horse" shit.

fx's picture

But, but - how come, Isis never bombed an US passenger plane while the US has been supposedly bombing Isis for more than a year now? But Isis bombs a Russian plane after just 4 short weeks of the Russian air-campaign that  - according to other US and Western "officials" and media - so far didn't even target Isis?

Something doesn't add up here, no?

Surviver22's picture
Surviver22 (not verified) HowdyDoody Nov 5, 2015 6:11 AM

 

It's the greatest threat global security has ever faced

All the weapons in the world won't matter once ISIS army kick into gear!

http://motivationdose.com/electromagnetic-pulse-attack-emp-blackout-usa-...

GMadScientist's picture

Totally worth it if I never have to hear the name Kardashian again outside of obits.

GMadScientist's picture

Russia wants Russia to start bombing; file under "girding the loins of the people".

Ghordius's picture

Latina Lover, yomutti wrote "Despite the wackoism you read here, the US obviously had nothing to do with creating ISIS. The core of ISIS is just a bunch of ex-Saddam military guys looking for  a new gig. We won't be sorry to see them all dead."

now, he does have one point: there are quite a few military guys that used to belong to Saddam's military forces in the Islamic State. They were lower to higher officers, they are Sunni Muslims and, more importantly then anything else, they were in Iraq's Ba'ath Party

what is this party? well, it used to be a kind of nationalist pan-Arabic socialist party. wikipedia does a valiant effort to describe it's ideology as

"...mixing Arab nationalistpan-ArabismArab socialist and anti-imperialist interests.

Ba'athism calls for unification of the Arab world into a single state.

Its motto, "Unity, Liberty, Socialism", refers to Arab unity, and freedom from non-Arab control and interference."

now, enter the Iraq War, and the US occupation of Iraq. where the US authorities in Iraq had this highly controversial (I was seriosly questioning the sanity of it) of treating the whole as a new occupation of Germany, where de-nazification was adopted as a general policy

in short, they kicked them out of all state and military jobs for being Ba'athists. and they are now, among others, including fervent believers, in a way less "socialistic" and more religious team, but one that nevertheless strives to control the whole Arabic countries region and... kick out external influences

this leads me to the questions: did the US ever need to "set up ISIS"? did the US ever need to fund ISIS, when there are enough super-rich funders in the region?

my answer is: not directly. and so I doubt that it's as simple as you claim.

yes, there is damning evidence is cash "getting lost" and weapons lying around

even more damning is dropping weapons with the "hope the right guys pick it up"

but direct ties to ISIS? what for? if the goal is destabilization, then direct ties are liabilities, completely unnecessary liabilities

ross81's picture

Wait a minute. Saddam's army was comprised of multiple religious groups & served a secular state. Also Assad is a Baathist so why would ex-Iraqi Baathists want him gone in favour of Salafist Jihadists (who Saddam also hated)??

Ghordius's picture

yes, Ba'athism is secular. And Ba'athism used to be on the very (Arab unity) flag of Iraq, as on Syria's and Egypt's, with the differentiation of a falcon, two stars and three stars

the main goal of Ba'athism was always dual: for Arab Unity and against external influences (with secularism and socialism thrown in as counter to extreme religiousness)

from that point of view, lots of groups to fight, internally and externally

a fascist might want to gain control over the planet and still fight the communist that wants to gain control over the planet

Motasaurus's picture

I too don't believe the US /needed/ to set up or fund ISIS. 

However I honestly believe that those who are gaining from them /wanted/ to. I think it would be quite enlightening to find out just who is showing up at these ISIS 'auctions' where they sell oil, women and children, and just who they represent.

Someone, or a group of someones, is buying a whole lot of human misery right now. It is hard to believe that doing so wasn't the goal all along. 

Ghordius's picture

+1   if it wasn't the goal, they are yet nevertheless "buying a whole lot of human misery" and adding some to it

Keyser's picture

Since ZH is quoting bastions of US journalism (bwahahaha), for fair and balanced, here is a view from the other side of the spectrum...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/03/exclusive-breaking-story-bombing...

Latina Lover's picture

A third of the nation cannot read your comments, or the following words:

http://eserver.org/courses/spring97/76100o/readings/kozol.html

I believe the above statistic is understated.

Laowei Gweilo's picture

the one thing that the U.S., China, Eurozone, and Russia can agree on

 

mulsims...

 

islamic terrorism, muslim refugees, even oil prices... most of the major problems that these countries face can be traced back to muslims

Bring the Gold's picture

Right because Muslims wield such disproportianate influence, especially outside the ME in the developed world. Holy fuck that's ignorant. It's the elite that are causing the problems and you'd have to be ignorant, stupid and/or a shill to believe otherwise.

Lockesmith's picture

There's another semitic group behind that one, which actually is pulling the strings.
Oy vey.

Socratic Dog's picture

That certainly seems to be the talking point for you guys today.  You're the second newbie I've read on the Hedge in 24 hrs saying exactly that.  Sorta like when Newsweek, Time, and the Economist have interchangeable articles, all apparently written by different people, all saying exactly the same thing in identical phrases.

richsob's picture

It's not so much wackoism on this website as an abiding hatred of the U.S.  Seems some people don't understand Obama may indeed be an absolute socialist idiot but that doesn't necessarily make the Russians and Chinese all geniuses.  Oh well.  It will be a new set of "idiots" for them to hate on after the next election.

P.S.  If ISIS bombed that plane full of innocent Russians I hope Putin goes medevial on the bastards. 

palmereldritch's picture

Putin isn't an idiot.

As much as he will have all those responsible held accountable in the field to which their peers will be aware of their punishment he will also not be foolish enough to feed the NWO trolls and their need to ever expand a 'crusade of chaos' against ISIS and further destabilize Egypt as the psycho-elite would desire.

He will hold Egypt politically and logistically accountable so that they may get their house in order and evict the parasites that threaten peace and stability.

He is a practitioner of Judo after all...

Revenge is a dish best served cold and it gets VERY cold in Russia.

HamFistedIdiot's picture

"psycho-elite"...thanks for that. still searching for the perfect phrase. the corporate control over words and meanings must be fought tooth and nail

Latina Lover's picture

Richsob,  it's not a hatred of  the US, but of the criminal bankster cabal in control of our government and financial systems. Most americans may be dumb, but are generally decent human beings who just want a fair chance at making an honest living.

Ghordius's picture

"not a hatred of  the US, but of the criminal bankster cabal in control of our government and financial systems"

that's a question of... sophistication. needs some... the military word for it is... intelligence. in the sense of having some knowledge of facts, verifyible facts

you might be correct or not with your "Most americans may be dumb", but the rest of the world has it's "I don't care about all this complexity" legions, too

and so hatred of the US, pure, blinding and without discernment of which elites are culpable for what... exists, and is growing

as hatred of various european countries, and hatred of Russia, and yes, hatred of China, too. and of course religions. Hatred of Jews, hatred of Christians, hatred of Muslims

plenty of simple hatred growing. most people on this planet are "generally decent human beings who just want a fair chance at making an honest living"

meanwhile, most people belong to the "I don't care about all this complexity" group

Oracle 911's picture

And also VERY cold in China. (Well they bought up most of the industrial parks in the US, so it seems like you guys will be forced to work for a porringer of rice as payback).

Max Steel's picture

You apologists are quiet funny. Dont criticize my empire of chaos for its recklessness and crimes because if you do you hate US and beimg called as unpatriotic. Get a fcuking brain snob.

Luc X. Ifer's picture

don't be stupid, here you are known from which hands you gulp your dog food ...

Nexus789's picture

A CIA creation when the CIA minders have lost control.

Motasaurus's picture

You think they've lost control? 

HowdyDoody's picture

The US-First CIA minders probably think so. The Israel-First CIA minders will do all they can to encourage it.

Kermit Roosevelt, in his book Countercoup describing the events leading to the overthrow of Mossadegh and the placemnt of the US-friendly Shah of Iran, admits the CIA has Israel-Firsters even then. Two brothers, with very good spy craft, form an invaluable part of tthat regime change. They we not a US-trained asset, nor were they UK-trained as the twwo has a process of information exchange to avoid the possibility of an agent working both sides. Obviously they were not Soviet given their key part in the anti-Soviet program. They we also given clearance to operate within a CIA program in spite of their refusal to reveal their background and source of training. AN interesting story there.

Socratic Dog's picture

Ahh.  So that's why Obama insists on calling it ISIL.  They gave the game away when thay mistakenly called it ISIS.

HowdyDoody's picture

Haaretz has an intriguing article called 'The Cult of ISIS' It dates from 2002, so that sounds too intriguing to ignore.

It turns out that ISIS actually means Israel Secret Intelligence Service. They must be so proud their protoge is known by the same name.

"Efraim Halevy, the head of the Mossad, Israel's espionage agency, or as he is usually introduced in English, the chief of the ISIS (Israel secret intelligence service)."

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/features/the-cult-of-isis-1.41131

 

general ambivalent's picture

Haha, yeah. And this one too:

International Security Information Service Europe (ISIS) 
Rue Archimède 50 
B-1000 Brussels 
Belgium 

They love the hidden in plain sight aspect of it.

Nexus789's picture

A CIA creation when the CIA minders have lost control.

Ides of November's picture

Yomutti, so if Russia isn't even bombing ISIS - why the hell would ISIS start destroying Russian planes?

Clearly they wouldn't - so you can rule ISIS out as a suspect based on what you've just said.

It must be someone associated with the FSA - Free Syrian Army - the ones actually being killed by Russia. ISIS are being advantaged according to your narrative, the last thing they'd do is make themselves a target for Russia when Russia is doing them a huge favour!

" So far the Russians have concentrated on other groups more directly threating their pet dictator, and they have barely scratched ISIS."