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Dear Fellow Americans: Do You Have Any Idea What’s Being Done In Your Name In Syria?
Americans have some vague understanding that the U.S. wants Syria’s Assad to go, while Russia wants him to stay.
And Americans know that the U.S. “war against ISIS” hasn’t done much, while the Russians have been pounding Syrian targets with jets.
But Americans have no idea that the U.S. is deploying fighter jets designed solely to engage in plane-to-plane dogfighting … in order to counter the Russians.
And we don’t understand that the U.S. is arming the Syrian “rebels” with shoulder-fired weapons to bring down airplanes (this comes a week after ISIS may have used a Manpad to shoot down a Russian civilian airliner.)
Americans don’t know that sending Manpads into Syria and trying to establish a no-fly zone is what Al Qaeda leaders have been ASKING FOR, and that ISIS and Al Qaeda will end up with all of the weapons which the U.S. sends to Syria.
Americans don’t know the history of American regime change in Syria:
- The U.S. carried out a coup in Syria in 1949
- In 1957, the U.S. president and British prime minister agreed to use Arab extremists – including the Muslim Brotherhood – to effect regime change in Syria
- In 1991, the U.S. hawks started planning another round of regime change in Syria
- The U.S. has been arming the Syrian opposition since 2006 … years before the uprising started
Americans don’t know that it was the “rebels” – not the Syrian government – who carried out the chemical weapons massacre in Syria.
Americans don't know that U.S. backed rebels told Christians, “Either you convert to Islam or you will be beheaded.” Syrian rebels slit the throat of Christian man who refused to convert to Islam, taunting his fiance by yelling: “Jesus didn’t come to save him!” A former Syrian Jihadi says the rebels have a “9/11 ideology”. Indeed, they’re literally singing Bin Laden's praises and celebrating the 9/11 attack.
Americans don’t know that the U.S. and its allies are largely responsible for creating ISIS, that U.S., Turkey and Israel have all been acting as ISIS’ air force, and that influential American figures are calling for openly arming Al Qaeda … and perhaps even ISIS.
Americans don’t know that Russia and China are catching up to the U.S. military, and that this isn’t a mere proxy war … but is “one step closer” to all out war between the U.S. and Russia.
And Americans don’t know that history shows that empires collapse when they overextend themselves militarily … and fight one too many wars.
Postscript. Americans also don’t know how close we’ve come to the worst-case scenario:
- We came very close to nuclear war with Russia numerous times in the past … and only the courage of a handful of men to disobey the commands of their superiors saved the world
- In 1962, the head of the U.S. Air Force – General Curtis LeMay – pushed president Kennedy to use the “opportunity” to launch a nuclear war against Russia, and was bitterly disappointed that Kennedy instead opted for peace. As highly-regarded reporter David Talbot said recently:
The military in this country and the CIA thought that we could take, you know, Castro out. During the Cuban missile crisis, they were prepared to go to a nuclear war to do that. President Kennedy thought people like Curtis LeMay, who was head of the Air Force, General Curtis LeMay, was half-mad. He said, “I don’t even see this man in my—you know, in my sight,” because he was pushing for a nuclear confrontation with the Soviet Union. And even years later, Curtis LeMay, after years after Kennedy is dead, in an interview that I quote from in the book, bitterly complains that Kennedy didn’t take this opportunity to go nuclear over Cuba. So, President Kennedy basically, I think, saved my life—I was 12 years old at the time—saved a lot of our lives, because he did stand his ground. He took a hard line against the national security people and said, “No, we’re going to peacefully resolve the Cuban missile crisis.”
- One of the world’s leading physicists (Michio Kaku) revealed declassified plans for the U.S. to launch a first-strike nuclear war against Russia in the 1987 book To Win a Nuclear War: The Pentagon’s Secret War Plans. The forward was written by the former Attorney General of the United States, Ramsey Clarke
- The U.S. is so enamored with nuclear weapons that it has authorized low-level field commanders to use them in the heat of battle in their sole discretion … without any approval from civilian leaders. Indeed, some fundamentalist U.S. military leaders want to start a nuclear war in the Middle East
- American, Russian and other experts warn that U.S. and Russian conflicts elsewhere could lead to nuclear war
- Russia has constructed massive underground shelters and taken other actions in anticipation of nuclear war
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american's do not want war...elites do, i have to laugh at the Eu posters here..blame the low iq common man for not stopping the elites, while merkel imports a million more over protests of the ah well low iq german people.
you guys love central .gov and the socialist model, yet you do not understand the central .gov brussels and sub .govs of eu ..do not care what you think..they have the power to change elections and the polls are made up, like our employment numbers in USA.
we are all along for the ride..on both sides of the atlantic..now if you say we need to overthrow the .gov and NWO elites you might be on to something.
let me know how you plan to do such.
"you guys love ... the socialist model" well, overmed, in the case of healthcare, guilty as charged
we generally have "single payer" "socialized" and "universal" health care
and generally speaking our systems work better and are... hold for it... cheaper. particularly for the "common man", "low IQ" or not "low IQ"
one of the tenets of classical liberalism is "let them do" and "caveat emptor"
in your case, "let them do" seems to apply to megacorporations only. this while "caveat emptor"... well, does not work well with "low IQ" or ignorance
ignorance paired with "caveat emptor" is a particularly toxic combination. then, the label isn't even carrying a warning. look around you to see the results
Ghordius, you have good aim. you mock my post with reason, that's not fair.
but in your heart you know it is not possible to change the path of elite sociopaths by voting, they count the votes. there is no representative government left in the west." the right of kings" never went away.
overmed, you are a fundamentally good man, and it gets into what you write. don't change that
I am a hobby historian, and I can tell you that every "regime" is subject to change, eventually
even if we discuss revolution, those who show up... they demonstrated, before that. and those who demonstrated... they voted, before that
the apathic "I'll sit in front of the screen, be it a TV or PC"... less so
I witnessed the Soviet Empire crumble. I witnessed the Iron Curtain crumbling. Power is a strange thing. Because it's in the mind of others
+1 Nice thread you two. Great to be reminded of why I keep coming back to read familiar posters.
and you think also "you guys love central .gov ". again, can you prove that?
check, for example, the US gov budget and armed forces. "Brussels" is regularly painted (for US domestic purposes) as the counterpart of Washington in typical American blogs
you know how much we give to "Brussels"? a hint: not enough for any military or social spending. is that... central gov?
compared to "you guys", we have less central gov in Brussels then the US had right after the writing of the US Constitution
that "Charles De Gaulle" aircraft carrier going near Syria now carries a French flag, and is paid by French taxpayers. that's blue, white and red, not the "blue with gold stars" of "Brussels"
now point to me the flag on the "George H.W. Bush" supercarrier. is that a Texan flag? a Californian flag? is it paid by New Yorkers only?
ok, so you think "Americans do not want war...elites do". can you prove that? I remember when Americans proved that they wanted the VietNam war to stop
Murder, theft, destruction and displacement. The same as every other country.
No, they don't know and don't care cause it is too confronting and too inconvenient. After the Iraq invasion people complained about the 6 o'clock and prime time news showing the carnage in Iraq. Not very appetizing when you're eating your TV dinner. And people are more interested in who is going to be the next American talent and how big Kim Kardashian's ass has become this week.
Becuase Americans don't give a crap about anything but themselves I believe the majority most likely only have a mixture of official propaganda and internet sound bites to form bumper sticker opinions. The war hawks may have basically taken over the govt in an ideological coup. Obama as much as an empty as he is may no longer even be seen to be in charge. Modern day Lemays like Petraeus-McCain-Nuland-Powers-Wolfowitz-Brennan may now be running the show without anyone seemingly aware. Another possible threat for the F-15s is against Turkey going after the Kurds as current CIA darlings plus the threat to defend Turkish air space as the safe zone may be implemented on the Turkish side of the Syrian border for an extended quagmire for the friends of Syria. I doubt the direct confrontation between Russian and American planes in any type of combat.
It's not just Americans, there's a whole fucking world of morons out there, who believe the 'Everything is awesome' rhetoric.
Remember the USS Liberty. Never forget.
Duhhhh...what's a Syria?
Hold on George...the i-satan phone is ringing...might be back to earth next week.
Duhhh...yessss master i-satan phone...(drool)...hear you and obey...who cares about world woar?
http://daleirvin.com/blog/?p=65
Your psychotronic devices and signal carriers are all over ready for the near future squelching and killing off of humanity...duhhhh...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_XQ5ITv7p0
American exceptionalism never works out well for Americans.
It was the original Constitution that was exceptional. The Supreme Court betrayed it, as did the people who voted to ratify the 16th and 17th Amendments.
why don't you like 17th amendment . . .
We Brits might ask the same question about what is being done in our name.
I recently saw an interview on RT with Major General Patrick Cordingley, who is a retired British Army officer, where he gave his opinions on the purchase of Britain's Trident II nuclear deterrent system from America. He was quite explicit about the fact that this incredibly expensive system (At least £100 billion) is not the "Independent" deterrent that the British public have been led to believe. He argued that the US controls all British nuclear operations and that the nukes cannot be fired without command authority from the American president. So apparently we have to buy American WMDs that we have no control over, that cannot ever be used, that can only be launched by Americans. It's insane.
Add this information to GW's article above where it states, "The U.S. is so enamored with nuclear weapons that it has authorized low-level field commanders to use them in the heat of battle in their sole discretion … without any approval from civilian leaders." This essentially means that whoever is in field command of the US contingent of NATO may be able to launch Britain's Trident nuclear missiles at his whim, in almost the exact same way as it was depicted in Stanley Kubrik's Dr.Strangelove.
Having nukes to play the MAD game is bad enough - it's a declaration of total batshit insanity to murder at least millions of innocent people if they are lucky, or billions/the whole planet if it initiates a full scale exchange - but buying nukes to let somebody else control them is beyond understanding. I've heard people describe Trident II as a "tactical" weapon which is also fucking crazy. Just ONE missile can hold a dozen W88 warheads, each warhead with the destructive yield of 20 Nagasaki "Fat Man" bombs. So one missile = 240 Nagasakis. Tactical my arse. They are not merely city destroyers, they are nation vaporizers. Vicky Nuland's Zionazi antics in the Ukraine have driven NATO to the very brink of a full scale war and it will only take one nutty field commander to trigger the end of the world as we know it. How could anyone sane in government let the situation become this close to armageddon? It's unbelieveable.
So what you are really saying is that Israel controls Britains Trident nuclear missiles ?
I saw the same interview and was amazed at what Cordingley said.
Shows how far the mightly have fallen, Britain once ruled 25% of the world by land area and population, and yet now is totally emasculated with gimps as politicians. Steve Bell rightly considers Cameron as a condom. MAD is indeed batshit insanity, but to engage in MAD without even being able to press the button, plus spend 100 billion pounds for it, is beyond batshit, into a surreal alternate reality. Bizarro.
I know right? It gets even worse. I was reading about the UK Trident programme last night and we don't even have a failsafe on our subs to prevent rogue commanders from launching unauthorized nuclear attacks:
From UK Trident Programme:
"At the end of the Cold War, the US Navy installed devices to prevent rogue commanders persuading their crews to launch unauthorised nuclear attacks. These devices prevent an attack until a launch code had been sent by the Chiefs of Staff on behalf of the President. The UK took a decision not to install equivalent devices onto Vanguard on the grounds that an aggressor might be able to eliminate the British chain of command before a launch order had been sent"
The system is so ripe for rogue elements from the CIA/State Dept (Vicky Nuland and the neocons are prime candidates) to launch nukes bypassing all command authority, it's positively batshit crazy.
A real American Treasure.
https://youtu.be/8iXlB_Vk9VQ
Yes, greatly missed and from a very different era than today.
just keep tweakin' the nukes vlad; they're comin' fo ya.
George, we know, but so what?
It seems most every time I vote, the other guy gets elected. After that, all I can do is watch the decline.
Assume for one minute that everyone who read this knows about most of what has been written. Since our Government doesn't give a shit about what the people think or want, what's your point. Or more importantly, what would you suggest be done?
That the Russians have flown 1000's of sorties and just (seemingly ) dented ISIS's grip on huge swathes of Syria tells me it's the USSofA's/Saudi's LAST throw of the dice in their Middle-East FATWA, to hold any influence ; they've gone All-In.
As Barry O'toole whoops it up at Parties with Reggie singing ' I'm your Venus, Suck my penis, your desire & Get down on it '
As the few remaining American Generals gather around the ouija board at H/Q wondering which of the buggers to blame . . .
Yep Putin must be shitting himself. s/c
"Americans have no idea" due to the fact that we are limited in S2 and differentiating propoganda from lies.
What difference does it matter anyway since the totality of it is dog and pony/circus show.
No GW they don't!... And worst of all they don't "give a shit" and haven't for a very... very... very... long time!
America is a Country with a collective will that has no memory of it's crimes. Past, Present and it's soon to be very... very... very... short Future!!!
Maybe it's time to ask every American
" So how many people have you, ie. your Govt killed today across the world"
The purpose is to destroy America, Americans and the dollar for corporations, special interests, foreign governments, crazy billionaires, the Military Industrial Complex, banksters and the depopulation faction.
What a hoot! The Washington Empire declaring Syria a no fly zone while Russia is actively flying sorties over Syria attacking the Islamic State. The Empire is declaring war against Russia. Unless the Washington Empire has advanced weaponry that they want to show off, the Sukhoi class of fighters will outfly the F class of fighters as they have already done in fighter jet competition. Oh well, our military is expendable, that is what they signed up for right??
The day the WW 3 starts is the day the fascist rounds up all the outspoken dissidents on ZH and will throw us into prison. Gee, I hope I am in prison long enough to meet GW.
and our state of the art billion dollar each F-35s will sit on the ground vines growing up the landing struts and rust decaying the main bodies-they are less than useless
You almost got it right - but it will be the Marxist government that does the rounding up.
‘Fascist’ is the merger of monopoly corporations with government. The bankster Washington Empire of Debt, Fraud and Chaos is a fascist oligarchy which is not a Marxist concept but a fascist concept.
Indeed, some fundamentalist U.S. military leaders want to start a nuclear war in the Middle East . . .
It's not just military fundamentalist leaders but many political leaders and members if the "deep state" in the USA are also adherents of the crazy evangelical Christian "end times" prophecy that, in their eyes, requires Armageddon (i.e nuclear war) to pave the way for the 2nd coming of Jesus of Nazareth. This one issue is probably the greatest threat there is to the survival of the human race. Most, if not all, of these people are also hard core Zionists and Israel "firsters".
They are truly deceived. And if they have their way, I truly believe (as a true believer) that they will find themselves in the lake of fire.
Do I have any idea what's done in my name? Yes. The exceptionals are exceptionally stupid. They emote to lies and propaganda. I know that the US feeds ISIS by its own admission. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/19/u-s-humanitarian-aid-go... I know that the US sanctions Iran and Russia, but is unwilling to sanction ISIS.
A war is not won by aiding the enemy. "Everything our government says is a lie" ~ Nietzsche paraphrased.
The US has never fought a foreign invader on its soil. In contrast, Russia and Europe experienced two major conflicts in the 20th century- WWI and WWII. The Russians had over 20 million casualties in WWII while the US had circa 500,000 (~ 3% of Russian casualties). If you want to know how the Russians respond to an invasion, look up the Battle of Stalingrad (Link: www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/battle-of-stalingrad). The US is very vulnerable to a nuclear attack. US agriculture is very energy dependent- it takes 10 calories of energy to produce 1 calorie of food; the average food commodity travels 1500 miles from point of production to consumption site. No doubt, in any conflict with a foreign country, IT and energy infrastructure will be targeted in the US. These include computer farms and fiber optic cables, oil refineries, pipelines, storage facilities and docks used for unloading oil tankers, all soft targets. Bottom line- those surviving an initial nuclear attack, will starve shortly thereafter. Something to ponder.
What you wrote (with the exception of the first sentence - see War of 1812) is accurate. The U.S. has two great oceans on either side of the continent and "friends" on our northern and southern borders. But ICBM's need no water beneath their wings as they fly over the expanse of blue water and descend on military targets obliterating everything and everyone.
The people are insouciant and go about their daily lives staring at their little screens of superfluous drivel. When presented with the possibility of a nuclear detonation on U.S. soil they probably will rush to ground zero to take the first "selfie" to show their friends. How sad is that.
Most Americans know jack shit. Tell me another one.
Most Americans know jack shit.
Yep. The USA is predominately populated by a bunch of dumb asses that can't really do anything by themselves (i.e. basic household repairs, basic auto maintenance, simple carpentry, gardening, basic food production [e.g. raising chickens or rabbits], hunting and fishing skills, etc.). This one issue will be the downfall of the USA in the end after an economic collapse and in the event of a full scale attack on the country will lead to more deaths than the attack itself.
and sustainable housing, which is all the shit right now, will make they more incompetent as they have zero place to put any tools worth anything, only parking spots.
future zombies.
The USSA is a Talmudic Rogue Entity
MANPAD can NOT take down a plane flying at 30,000 feet! Period!
Fixed it for everyone...
Shoulder-fired SAM: 26,000 feet range.
WasWas fires from 6,000 ft. elevation in Sinai, = 32,000 feet.
Russian plane is hit.
don't care anymore, kill em all
Speaking of Underground shelters, George You wrote:
Denver Airport? Underground shelter for The Illiminati after / when DC & NYC are blasted.
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Denver Airport? Underground shelter for The Illiminati after / when DC & NYC are blasted.
It's not just the "Bunker" under DIA. Reportedly there are literally hundreds of redoubts that have been built for TPTB and their minions all over the USA. None for us proles though . . .
I hope those fuckers don't plan on coming up real soon after the SHTF though 'cause there will be at least a few of the "little people" left just waiting for the chance to "meet" them and give them a taste of karma.
Air ducts are convenient places to dump unwanted excess concrete.
Russia builds 5000 shelters for the people. America builds none for the people. I think it's time to be worried and, if possible, to act on that worry.