US Planes Fired On Fleeing Civilians, Doctors Without Borders Says

Tyler Durden's picture

Just a few days ago, the Saudis followed in the footsteps of their counterparts in Washington when the kingdom’s warplanes “accidentally” bombed a Doctors Without Borders hospital in Yemen. 

The “incident” came less than a month after the Green Berets - who were battling for control of Kunduz in Afghanistan in an effort to beat back a Taliban advance - apparently decided that in order to rid an MSF hospital of some “insurgents” who were apparently hanging out inside (and by “hanging out” we mean “were injured and that’s why they were in the hospital in the first place”), they needed to call in an AC-130 gunship which proceeded to make five passes and engage the building for an hour, eventually killing dozens of people as tends to happen when advanced air assault technology squares off against unarmed people lying on gurneys.

Here are some of the visuals for anyone who missed it:

And here's a look inside the building courtesy of BBC:

Now, in a revelation that likely won't surprise those who frequent these pages, MSF says the US fired on civilans who were running from the building. Here's Reuters

Medical aid group Medicins Sans Frontieres (MSF) said on Thursday it was hard to believe a U.S. strike on an Afghan hospital last month was a mistake, as it had reports of fleeing people being shot from an aircraft.


At least 30 people were killed when the hospital in Kunduz was hit by the strike on Oct. 3 while Afghan government forces were battling to regain control of the northern city from Taliban forces who had seized it days earlier.


The United States has said the hospital was hit by accident and two separate investigations by the U.S. and NATO are underway but the circumstances of the incident, one of the worst of its kind during the 14-year conflict, are still unclear.


MSF General Director Christopher Stokes told reporters the organization was still awaiting an explanation from the U.S. military.


"All the information that we've provided so far shows that a mistake is quite hard to understand and believe at this stage," he said while presenting an MSF internal report on the incident.


The report said many staff described "seeing people being shot, most likely from the plane" as they tried to flee the main hospital building.

Let's just be clear so that it doesn't appear we're being bombastic for the sheer hell of it: MSF is now accusing the US of firing on civilians fleeing a hospital.

And in case you have any questions as to whether US Spec Ops knew this was a hospital, recall the following from AP

In the days before the attack, "an official in Washington" asked Doctors without Borders "whether our hospital had a large group of Taliban fighters in it," spokesman Tim Shenk said in an email. "We replied that this was not the case. We also stated that we were very clear with both sides to the conflict about the need to respect medical structures."

 

Taken together, the revelations raise the possibility that U.S. forces destroyed what they knew was a functioning hospital, which would be a violation of the international rules of war.

MSF went on to say that there were 20 wounded Taliban fighters at the facility, which shouldn't surprise anyone because i) it's a hospital, and ii) "treating wounded combatants is not a crime" (that's a quote from MSF General Director Christopher Stokes). Back to Reuters: 

MSF says the site's location had been clearly communicated to both Afghan forces and the Taliban and it was clearly identifiable as a hospital.

 

"That night, it was one of the few buildings with electrical power, it was fully lit up," Stokes said.

 

He also said that inspections of the area around the hospital since the Taliban withdrew from Kunduz last month did not reveal signs of heavy fighting.

So, while the Western media is busy accusing the Russians of accidentally hitting hospitals in Syria, MSF itself is now out accusing the US of gunning down fleeing civilians after engaging what Washington absolutely knew was a functioning medical facility. Here, for what it's worth, is Washington's excuse: 

"Several Afghan officials have suggested Taliban fighters were using the hospital as a base."

Maria Zakharova, if you're listening, we can't wait to see what you do with this.

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VATICANT's picture

Shocker! Bet they'll support that TPP next time..

But on a more realistic note - did Mr PeacePrize himself order these killings? Absolutely.

J Jason Djfmam's picture

Rules Schmules.

International rules are for pussies.

Sarc on/off as needed.

Boondocker's picture

Yes!  if I am going to kill you, I have to be civilized about it....

Gaius Frakkin' Baltar's picture

Well big fucking surprise, they did the same thing to good samaritans in Iraq... that's why they made Manning into a woman, because of the videos he leaked. Everyone keep trolling with the Manning jokes though, you know, to make yourselves feel like 'real' 'murican manly men for doing nothing.

The Pope's picture

<-- Fuck you for your serVITUDE

<-- Thank you for your serVICE

Boris Alatovkrap's picture

Standard law enforcement policy, if suspect is flee, must is be guilty. Open fire!

Baby Bladeface's picture
Baby Bladeface (not verified) Boris Alatovkrap Nov 5, 2015 6:55 PM

...and if is within firing range, a suspect is.

847328_3527's picture

Two groups of hard working, educated people are extremely smart, detailed and tenacious --- doctors and airplane pilots.

 

Do not mess with them or you're grabbing a tiger by the tail. The DromeMeister should just stick to wedding parties.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

"Standard law enforcement policy, if suspect is flee, must is be guilty. Open fire!" -Boris

Standard law enforcement policy, if suspect is approaching, must is be deadly. Open fire! -Kirk

Nazdrovye!  (You say Nazdrovye, I say Nice Driveway.)

Boris Alatovkrap's picture

Some day Boris is nice driveway, but is first must save for purchase of automobile.

JuliaS's picture

If you got nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear; which is another way of saying: "Anyone afraid of being persecuted should be persecuted."

- Robert Newman

Boris Alatovkrap's picture

Fundamental liberty is freedom of unwarranted suspicion.

Ms No's picture

Really, WTH did they do to Manning?  Guy starts out a pretty normal seeming military leaker, is taken in and then comes out a drag queen.  They probably had him dosed on acid in some sensory deprivation chamber listening to liberace on repeat... that poor bastard.  Probably the best way possible to deter any future military leaks.

SuperRay's picture

They took away his clothes and kept him in solitary for months, in a cold cell, with no human contact.  Not sure what else they did, but this part is widely known.  Of course, if you say that's why he became Chelsea, you'll be attacked as homophobic racist..

IronForge's picture

Gaius,

Until they can FOIA the PSYOPS/PublicAffairs game they pulled off (and may still be pulling off) on Manning, Whistleblowers are at peril.

When I blew the Whistle to the DoD/Navy IGs and was retaliated, they (NAS North Island's Aircraft Repair Depot) had a Contractor Kickback Situation, so I had Private Eyes stalking me and defaming me everywhere I went (spreading rumors as to prevent me from getting an Employment Contract (I'm an IT Contractor) or a Full Time Job anywhere else). 

They "do" go for the sensitive areas; and try to manipulate events and perceptions of many Peoples.   I've been rumored to have been accused of anything they can imagine, spun for the worst, in an attempt to see what they can use; and from what I understand, Cult/Political/Ethnic Radicals at Biola/Fuller/AzusaPac/LomaLinda/Pepperdine/Loyola/UCI/USC/UCLA/CSULB/Stanford(SRI) have managed to get a Research Study PhD Racket out of it.  (Don't know the subject matter, could be Criminology/Psych/Sociology/ChristianStudies/BlackStudies).

I've been accused of being a Psychopath, Molester, Rapist, Drug Addict, Crazy, Gay(ulitimate c*ckblock play), Terrorist, Spy/Sleeper Agent, Communist, Quisling, Public Masturbator, etc.(the monkeys in Gardena, Los Angeles AFB, and other locations actually were canvassing my neighborhood collecting signatures for a survey/petition); and the Racketeers actually used false/abused actual Search/Arrest Warrants and NSA Letters.  Since I also had some several Queer Stalkers (one prancer who followed me around during one of my Lifting Sessions at a Gym in NJ actuall few over to California and tried to approach me at a parking lot at AMGEN (where I had an interview for a Contract) and some ugly Cult/MIC Women try to get noticed (I try to politely ignore them), the (MIC) Racketeers were pretty heavy with the Sexuality Subjects - I had all KINDS of Gay Pr0n Banner Ads whenever I'd take a gander at some Hot Dames.  Obviously, the ISP probably helped out; but I can figure in a L3/EDS/MIC/NCIS Monkey tapping into the local nodes.

I'm an Annapolis Grad, too.  There are some backstabbers who have tried to spin this and sweep it under the Rug; but it's surprising to see HOW treacherous the Alumni Network can be - to cover the Fail State Monkeys in their endeavours.

 

sun tzu's picture

Not a peep from the Americunt lamestream alphabet media presstitutes

Canadian Dirtlump's picture

Meanwhile the Saudis are bombing hospitals in Yemen, and the West is accusing Russia of bombing multiple hospitals in Syria which is a double barreled lie.

 

Look at this fuck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBxI1kaY-w4

VATICANT's picture

Exactly! Everyone is so screwed. Keep stacking and farming. Get out of the cities and suburbs

Baby Bladeface's picture
Baby Bladeface (not verified) VATICANT Nov 5, 2015 6:46 PM

Pilots for Saudis and other great apes aligned with them primary important lesson learned from US military terror trainers: minimise risk by attacking unarmed helpless.

JuliaS's picture

"They are running around the world dropping depleted uranium all around the earth, letting nuclear weapons off underneath the sea, and what are we going to do about it? Sit at home with a special light bulb and a shopping bag for life."

- Steve Hughes

yrad's picture

If this your first night of Fight Club, you have to fight.

o r c k's picture

This moron shill Kirby does an exact imitation of the car salesman (William Macy) in the movie Fargo. "Mamn, I've answered your questions" It's truly amazing.

--from canadian dirtlumps comment above          (at the end of the news conference)

El Vaquero's picture

We have some super secret evidence, trust us!  Trust us!

 

 

Sorry, you fucks have lied a million times too many for us to trust you. 

orangegeek's picture

My neighbor say a UFO land in his backyard last night.   Yes, that is also true.

 

You're in a war zone "doctors without borders".  What the fuck do you expect???

VATICANT's picture

Expect the USAF to get its fucking coordinates together. Oh wait, they did, that's why these people died. Do the math!

HowdyDoody's picture

DWB had given the location of their hospital in Kunduz to the US forces. The US probably misread 'do not attack here' as 'attack here stat'

The_Prisoner's picture

Expect the war criminals to perpetrate war crimes. And their captured population with a bloodlust to match the Citizens of Rome to continue clamoring for more blood.

Let me remind you that the 'just following orders' excuses didn't work too well for the German soldiers either.

logicalman's picture

That defence is reserved for those on the 'winning' side.

 

stant's picture

Hanoi Jane could not be reached for coment. Nor any other left wing hack

BarkingCat's picture

Guess what. As hard it was for me to admit after dispising that woman for decades - Jane Fonda was right.

Amy G. Dala's picture

Sorry, had to neg ya on that . . .sure, she was right.  For all the wrong fucking reasons.

Tyrone Shoelaces's picture

They are busy circling the wagons around Mr. Bojangles.

seek's picture

Three times is enemy action. Pretty clearly there's be a policy decision made somewhere to drive the docs out of the theater.

The question is why does the US want them out? Planning on using weapons that they don't want reported, or ?

J Jason Djfmam's picture

Clearly, Doctors without Borders have no national affiliation, and therefore must be considered enemy combatants.

Baby Bladeface's picture
Baby Bladeface (not verified) seek Nov 5, 2015 7:06 PM

"

"The question is why does the US want them out? Planning on using weapons that they don't want reported, or ?"

Never been before restrained of using uranium shells, white phosphorus bombs etc.

If plans to use chemical weapons or plague bombs, doctors to drive out beforehand reduces amount of credible witnesses of US sponsored atrocities.

alexcojones's picture

DWB should get some free Manpads.

Heard DC was handing them out to anybody

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

A MANPAD sounds like a place where two guys from SF would go to.

Caleb Abell's picture

Or something that Caitlyn would wear.

forrestdweller's picture

Imagine how it will be to realise that you are not with the good guys, and that there is no such things as bad guys and good guys. There are different perspectives and different motives.

It was not a hospital. The enemy was hding there.

We know that msf is a bunch of left wing, humanistic terrorist- lovers.

The_Prisoner's picture

Leaving aside the sheer stupidity of the first sentence of your post, you cap it off with the assertion that somehow being humanistic is a negative trait and that if you are not with us you are with the "enemy".

I suppose you're too dumb to realise that your statements combined signify you that you consider HUMANITY TO BE YOUR ENEMY.

You are so righteous in your stupidity that it prevents from seeing who your real enemy is. pro-tip: they are not known for their humanism.

Baby Bladeface's picture
Baby Bladeface (not verified) The_Prisoner Nov 5, 2015 7:10 PM

Is consistent logical - US government is enemy of humanity.

logicalman's picture

Given you obviously have internet access, there's really no excuse for being so uninformed.

Stupidity is another thing altogether. I don't think there's a fix for that.

 

deKevelioc's picture

Imagine how it will be to realise that you are not with the good guys, and that there is no such things as bad guys and good guys. There are different perspectives and different motives.

It was not a hospital. The enemy was hding there.

We know that msf is a bunch of left wing, humanistic terrorist- lovers.

 

Please leave.

E.F. Mutton's picture

We shot some folks....FORE!...errr...Forward!

salvadordaly's picture

The hospitals! He hates these hospitals! Stay away from the hospitals!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcwz8-EfFYE

Sizzurp's picture

Obama hates doctors in the states as well, but as far as I know, he hasn't sent any AC-130 Spectre gunships after them....yet.

DrData02's picture

War crime.  Put them on trial.  Gunners and commanders both.  Giving and obeying an illegal order.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

If you know the ID of the people involved (Gunner, Commander and their CO), document it, and send it to ZH or to 'Leakypedia' (or whatever they call themselves).

If Tyler won't publish it, he'll safeguard it, and maybe even pass it or sell it to the right people.  

The point is:  No War Crime will Go Undocumented, No War Criminal Will Go Unpunished.  Do your part, however small.  If you know something, spread the info/intel for posterity and future War Crime Tribunals.