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Activists Seek To Impoverish Thai Villagers To Save Monkeys From "Slavery"
Submitted by David Adams via The Mises Institute,
Leave it to NPR to add guilt to your pleasure. That bon-bon hidden behind your two-year-old bottle of Scotch just took on a whole new layer of sin. With child slavery in the production of chocolate and animal cruelty in the harvesting of coconuts, the conflict confection is born.
According to an animal rights group featured in a recent edition of NPR’s The Salt, abused monkeys are a key ingredient in your Panang curry. While the Thai/Malay practice of using monkeys to harvest coconuts dates back hundreds of years, landing in the crosshairs of activist vegans and SJWs (Social Justice Warriors) is a new phenomenon. Anthropologist Leslie Sponsel, quoted briefly in the NPR article, offered a defense of simian symbiosis. I caught up with Dr. Sponsel at his Hawaii home in hopes of learning more about his fieldwork. “Debate on the morality of enslaving monkeys to get a job done is a Western dilemma, not a Thai one,” Sponsel explained.
A lifelong environmentalist and author of Spiritual Ecology: A Quiet Revolution, Sponsel had reservations about watching primate pickers at work. Instead of calling for a nationwide boycott of coconut products as some have done, Sponsel did what every anthropologist worth his salt is trained to do: take pause and observe. He noted that neither his wife — a Thai Buddhist — nor a fellow Thai professor from a local university framed the practice in moral terms. Add a complete lack of compunction from the local Muslim population and Sponsel concluded that monkeys on task are not a cause, but a part of the “isness” of peninsula living.
The British explorer Robert Shelford observed in his 1916 book: A Naturalist in Borneo:
The modus operandi is as follows: — A cord is fastened round the monkey’s waist, and it is led to a coconut palm which it rapidly climbs, it then lays hold of a nut, and if the owner judges the nut to be ripe for plucking he shouts to the monkey, which then twists the nut round and round till the stalk is broken and lets it fall to the ground; if the monkey catches hold of an unripe nut, the owner tugs the cord and the monkey tries another. ... [At times] the use of the cord was dispensed with altogether, the monkey being guided by the tones and inflections of his master’s voice.
According to Sponsel, “Working macaques are the difference between a livelihood and abject poverty for many South Thailand farmers. Snake bites, stinging ants, and life-ending falls face whoever or whatever goes up those trees.”
Given the best monkeys harvest coconuts at over twenty times the speed of the most skilled man, the incentive to continue a centuries-old partnership is clear. During his fieldwork, Sponsel never observed or heard of monkey abuse by their handlers. He noted that many were treated similar to the way a Westerner treats a family pet. “For some households,” he observed, “they may even rise even to the level of being a family member.”
For a country that sees its stray dog population driven in crates to Vietnam every Tet New Year to become a side dish, the Thai macaques could have it worse. According to Sponsel, “Young ones are trained and kept on a rope or chain tethered to the handler or to a shelter when not working.” It is this practice that has earned the ire of some activists. Sponsel counters that in our society it is a matter of civility to keep a pet on a leash. And who hasn’t seen the mother who ties a string to her own children on a walk through a busy mall! According to Sponsel, the monkeys he observed were well-fed, groomed and cared for. Indeed, he often saw macaques being pushed in carts by their handlers on the way to the plantation.
“This debate is not new,” Sponsel explained. “Back in 1952, Jean Marcel Brulle’s The Murder of the Missing Link tackled our moral obligation to primates.” In an account of science fiction, a man impregnates a female monkey and then kills the newborn to force a jury to deliberate whether murder extends beyond humankind. Be it a hairy chest, or his way with the ladies (simians included), Burt Reynolds played the lead in Skullduggery — a 1970’s take on Brulle’s dilemma.
As some ramp up calls for a boycott, Sponsel cautions the bandwagon. “They should seriously consider how their campaign may negatively impact the livelihood of poor farmers. Some activists appear to be more worried about non-human animals more so than humans; even though the latter are also animals and have rights too.”
In a perfect world, Thai farmers would have machines and monkeys would have unspoiled wilderness. But, for the world we have — one in which habitat destruction wipes out entire populations — coconuts and farmers in need may be all that keeps the macaques in the trees and off the dinner tables.
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I need a monkey.
I've actually seen these monkeys in action and they're quite effective and well taken care of at least where I saw. Their babies are taken well care of too. I saw a baby money in diapers in a rice store because her parents were at work. LOL I'm for serious. Its a shame for people to think too highly of themselves that they'll act on behalf of anything and everything.
As the very least these wastefull activists should come up with viable substitutions instead of just demolishing businesses. I'm surpised the activists aren't on people's front lawns fighting for each and every blade of grass.
There are people who will jump on any bandwagon that involves alleged animal abuse, even when it's not abuse. It is unfortunate, because there are plenty of legitimate causes such as doing away with factory farms that treat animals like shit, pump them full of shit, put small ranchers and farmers out of business due to economies of scale, and thereby make unadulterated meat virtually unaffordable to the average person.
HElls yea... these people should fight the MIC.
UN Seeks To Impoverish Human Monkeys And Create The Globalist Bankers NWO
Obama and his globalist friends at the UN are seeking to quietly establish a binding Climate Justice Court that will have the power to fine non-compliant states for damages at the Paris COP21 Climate Conference.
This news has been completely blacked out in the media so as to pass without scrutiny in December
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3300366/UN-planning-internationa...
I have nothing but scorn for social justice warriors. They need a good ass whoopin' so that they can see what a real "trigger" is. A "microagressing" by a fucking monkey would be good too.
As a resident of Thailand, I can unequivocally state that the Thai government will laugh these do-gooders out of the country, along with their NGO handlers... Thais don't do "politically correct"...
We elected a monkey to Congress but he didn't respond to the wishes of the voters or come back with coconuts. That makes us look like idiots.
These people are an ignorant disgrace. Some higher animals-monkeys, dogs etc. reach their highest level of satisfying brain use when working together with Humans. It's a part of the pack mentality and nothing makes these animals happier than having a job to do. These sad, apparently emotionally unstable "activists" need to go home and get a real job and just be quiet. They're embarrassing the human race.
Some humans too, apparently.
all you bitchez speak for yourselves...i've been waiting on an excuse to cross-check a blind man for so long it's driving me crazy! and i'll be damned if i let this do-gooder fad pass without acting. blind people make me furious with their haughty and imperious ways. walking around with those scepter thingys thinkin they're king of the fuckin world wasn't good enough for them -- no, they just had to go and enslave german shepherds, cruelly yoking those noble beasts to a leash and forcing them to go places they don't want to go, sit, stay, contact emergency services...putting the dog's very life at risk at traffic intersections...taking up TWO seats on the bus -- it's a goddam shame & national travesty, is what it is. hello?!? is this 2015, or what? fuck that shit...janus has fuckin had it with those smug, pitiless, heartless, accident-prone and pencil peddling blindmen.
as of today, i'm going to play the knockout game with every blind person i meet and at long last set free those poor and doubtlessly miserable seeing eye dogs. thanks to janus these hounds will romp about the forest happy and free to live lives of liberty, equality and fraternity with their mammalian peers,; just like it says in the constitution, "we the carbon-based life-forms and children of gaia...". we can only pray to gaia that those mistreated canines will viciously maul their cruel and heartless 'masters' immediately following their heroic emancipation by yours truly. best of all, they're blind...and so janus won't have to worry about any messy retaliations.
say your prayers, you sorry slave master bastards!
janus
When engaging a SJW, always keep these three rules in mind;
1. SJWs Always Lie
2. SJWs Always Double Down
3. SJWs Always Project
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I too live in Thailand. You are 100% correct. Fuck with a Thai's money and you will get a Muay Thai style ass whippin'.
God theses people are too fucking stupid......
It was already bad enough with my Thai Co-workers looking at me like I was nuts when i be telling them about what life back here in the western world was like ...... now they gonna see some of our best justifications for planned parenthood running around thier country telling them what to do ................ I feel vindicated..... and happy ..... popcorn please..
Shock the monkey!
It's not like they tied the cord to the monkeys balls......
"Shock the monkey!"
In Japan they do exactly that:
http://igorilla.com/gorilla/animal/2002/monkey_mischief.html
Another solution is to shoot them and hang the body on a tree.
Amazing how quickly the other monkeys get the message and move on.
There's an absolute holocaustTM going on right here in America with abhorrent factory farm animal practices, but some clown's gotta go to Thailand and bitch about monkeys that work with a handler to collect coconuts? Some people have some combination of too much time on their hands and a total lack of discernment.
Not to mention the four-assed monkey breeding farms.
Once there is no economic use for the monkeys most will likely be killed.
May as well make it illegal to ride horses while the price of glue is still high...
If, instead of humans, apes were sending the monkeys up the tree we would call it a wonderful example of symbiosis.
Bullish!
It is clear that you have never been to an animal barn. Though you can view a half-dozen very abusive animal handling videos at YouTube. There are many thousands of humane livestock farms that are fine humane operations.
?? I know my farmer, have visited their farm and buy my meats there. Why do they have 'ag-gag' laws, so people won't find out how wonderfully so many factory farms are treating their animals? You seem to be shilling or haven't thought this through.
Concur. Having traveled widely in SEAsia during the 60s & 70s I observed monkeys as pets and even as family members in the cities & villages as well as remote areas. All were cared for with great attention and taken everywhere as a child would be. Yes some worked but those that did seemed to enjoy it.
Nut pickers..twist 'em like hell, till the fall off.
I heard the monkeys are displaying "hope and change" stickers on their asses.
#monkeylivesmatter
Yes, social justice for monkeys. Anything else new? Yawn.
Nancy Pelosi Radio (NPR) sucks hind titty
Work is abuse!!!
Dat's Rays cyst.
Wanted: Nut-picking monkey.
Benefits included.
Apply within.
Just plant the fucking trees upside down. There : FIXED IT FOR YOU!
Next target..the "slave" coffee-eating civets in Sumatra, shitting off Kopi Luwak.
washed down many a monkey leg with many a san miguel brewsky in Olongopo City, PI. circa 1969/70. yeah baby, tastes like monkey. God I love the smell of monkey meat in the morning!
Nah...San Mig is out.
Red Horse is in.
"The gods must be crazy"
"The gods must be crazy"
I'd give you the last monkey off my back.
Would it be acceptable to remove the monkeys from the Capitol building and run them up a tree?
That's the type of SJWs we need...
Sounds just like muslim immigration to Germany and Sweden
Do those monkeys have a 30 year mortgage, a 7 year no money down loan on a car/truck, & 50k in student debt? Because they sound freer than a lot of Americans.
For G-d's sake please DONT give them any new ideas.
Monkeys need a fair minimum wage.
please don't give them ideas.
While you're at it, save those poor fish from eating skanky dead skin off the feet of those hildabeasts.
No shit. It is widely known that liberals love animals but hate people.
Monkeys never crashed an economy, put other monkeys in "detention centers", spied on millions of monkeys, used drones on other monkeys, nor collected sweet monkey pensions.
While their methods are shit, their sentiment may not be all that misplaced; people provide plenty to hate.
I love animals and a large minority of the people.
Ya see, at NPR impotent things are impotent.
The air at NPR must be thick with the Angry Estrogen of Rich Girls Who Never Got A Pony and the whimpers of over-sensitive Milennial Beta Males.
Nincompooporial Propaganda Radio
National socialist Propaganda radio
Thai monkeys have higher FICO scores than African Americans, but they can't sing and dance and shit like our pavement apes.
Dancing to heavy beats accompanied by odd linguistics is Not Considered an Official Indica of Evolutionary Development, last I checked, but don't blame me, because sociology is a liberal arts science..
I hope I live long enough to see today's SJW's looked back on nostalgically with the same fondness we have for 70's Disco. And Gonorrhea.
Before it's all over, because it will be integral to the final violent portion of the decline and fall, the SJW's will be raped, pillaged and terrorized by their own very welcome new Noble Savages*
*ref Rousseau, et al
Compared to the hippy music that proceeded it disco was a great improvement. Listen to the Bee Gee's early shit and tell me Staying Alive wasn't streets ahead.
Meanwhile, gonorrhea never really went away---and thanks to antibiotic abuse in the Third World it gets harder to treat every year.
Speaking of animal abuse, the animal rights crowd are a bunch of hypocrites.
Everyone knows they're notorious monkey-spankers
The rich thieves who fund these "activists" are looking forward to the day when they can send the rest of the human race to the fucking glue factory, except the few unlucky souls they keep around to rape and torture for fun, so they can have their "pristine wilderness" to themselves.
No wonder our masters love animals. Animals don't talk back, they don't have any ambition, and they will never come up with an innovation that will ruin someone important. Best of all, if they bite you in retaliation for mistreatment, nobody thinks worse of you if you put them down.
'hard work'...damn monkeys dont know what hard work is. i have a picture (on my office wall) of baboons harvesting cotton in the deep south. slave baboons. they worked hard. twerking their purple asses...
this is outright monkey priviledge.
At least none of those monkeys has a chance of becoming President.
totally untrue.....what is actually required to become president? who checks the facts like 'are you a citizen' etc? appaerently no one does so yes a monkey could go on the ballot and with the dumb ass kardasheon citizens we have to ...voted into office.
clinton is going to be the next president and she is a reptile...so...?!??!?!?
Let the idiot activists do the job instead. At the same pay rate and without machines as to prevent more global warming. No ropes, descenders, ascenders and biners either. In fact how about the new minimum wage of 10/hr... Any takers? No, i didn't think so.
off the rails.
Sheep, guard and hadicap working dogs are next
Working Dogs. Can't believe I didn't think of that. Well done. (think of the torture those dogs endure at the sadistic hands of those disabled monsters. I'm scared.)
Very few actual working dogs these days compared to the overall dog population. Most "service animals" seem to be "emotional support" animals which Is an invention of the dog advocates. Most blind persons get around quite well with a smart cane and friends and don't care for the maintenance. When is the last time you saw a blind person with a seeing eye dog.? Ninety-nine percent of the 90M dogs in the US are just pets elevated to sacred cow status by the $85B pet industry. Where I live most seem to have dogs for security reasons.. In a civil breakdown a dogs usefulness will be short-lived and a position give-away, if they don't become food first.
Using monkeys is a better solution for the forest (and therefore all the animals) than using machines. So long as the monkeys are treated well (why would they not be?) it's fine.
Animal-rights activists can be really narrow-minded that way. Sort of like right-2-lifers who then don't want to hear about child poverty. Makes no actual sense.
Yeah, somebody give that monkey a banana.
Take your stinking paws of my coconuts, you damn dirty ape!
Around these parts, monkeys used to pick cotton.
Now they wreck countries.....
Listen to a confused liberal boast about their travel to upcountry Thailand where they go far distances to be "the only white person in a village" as if zero diversity is the pinnacle of their life experience. Until they come back to USA and whine about areas that aren't "diverse".
What's worse is traveling to one of those areas and finding one of those fucks has been there before you and poisoned the well.
I had to disassociate myself from this guy we picked up while driving through upcountry Belize on our way to Tikal. Stupid fucker complained that his bed was too hard and the hotel manager went so far as to put the maids out of their own room for the night to accommodate him, but no... that wasn't enough, so he left that afternoon, even though the locals warned him against traveling at night, and especially by taxi.
I profusely apologized for his lack of respect and advised the hotel owner that we'd only just met him and were just as glad as he was to see him go. Fortunately this smoothed things over and we had a good time from that point on. Mayan people are the best!
My only regret was that we didn't see the guy's head on a roadside stake the next day. Some people have no idea how dangerous lack of respect can be when traveling in foreign lands.
And conversely courtesy can open up a thousand doors. The moral is, never be an asshole, no matter where you are.
Unless dealing with middle-easterners...with whom, not being an asshole, is a sign of weakness and will be exploited.
A clear description of a genuine exercise in relative morality. A shame American children aren't trained to wrap their hearts and minds around the many sides of issues like this for several years before we declare them "adults" and turn them loose. Most human cultures throughout history have done a far better job of teaching morals and ethics than Americans have ever attempted (and the Americans seem to be getting worse with every passing decade).
What about the drug dealing monkeys? They're not going to ban those too are they?
joe of joes cartoons had it right in 2000
"spank ma monkey"
and "ya monkeylover"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmP0hmuDbMQ
"uuuuuuhhhhh"
I am ashamed to admit, but I used to do electronics (analog computers) for the animal experiment industry. The people who run it are sadistic sociopaths.
With regard to the monkey coconut gathering industry, maybe that's not so bad. Monkeys are totally not able to change auto tires or spark plugs, so that's probably the only work they can get.
I suppose we could tie a rope around the waist of an activist for harvesting, but activists mostly complain rather than do any useful work.
Get the monkeys to train the activists to do their work and if the activists don't comply, shoot these fuckers dead.
Sipping a latte and watching the horror of monkeys climbing the trees.
To be honest and not meaning any offense, when I first saw the SJW acronym I thought it stood for Single Jewish Women. Ironically, it fit the narrative of whatever I was reading almost perfectly so I never questioned it
I think the monkeys are smarter than us, as they have succeeded in setting up a welfare state with themselves as the State workers.... Bananas have a lot more substance than fiat currency, and they also get free room and board. A human even wipes their ass and cleans up their mess.... Who's the boss now?
Looks like the American paid NGO's (who changed govt) were sitting idle as no more protests are ordered by Satan America , so they are keeping themselves active with these .