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Putin Suspends Flights To Egypt As World Blames ISIS For Plane Crash
Over the course of the last several days, it’s become increasingly clear that an explosion was the likely cause of the disaster that caused a Russian passenger plane to abruptly stall and then plummet to the ground at 300 miles per hour last weekend over the Sinai Peninsula.
Initially, “experts” dismissed Islamic State’s claims that the plane was “destroyed” by terrorists, noting that it was extremely unlikely that IS Sinai possessed the technology and/or the expertise to down a plane flying at cruising altitude.
But the odd thing about all of the official denials is that it was never entirely clear that ISIS was claiming to have shot the plane down. Indeed, the video - real or fake - doesn’t depict a missile strike and in a “statement” released on Wednesday, the group explained that it’s under no obligation to reveal precisely how it downed the aircraft. Instead, they simply challenged the world to prove a negative (i.e. “prove we didn’t down it”) and told Russia to “die in your rage.”
Meanwhile, the home office in Raqqa aired a bizarre clip of ISIS militants handing out candy from a bowl, apparently in celebration of their Egyptian brothers’ “achievements”. The video then cuts to five guys sitting in the front yard threatening Vladimir Putin with a bowie knife.
Well, as surreal as all of this most certainly is, both the US and the UK ultimately admitted that ISIS likely did bring down the jet. Both London and Washington cited their own “intelligence” sources on the way to speculating that a bomb was on board.
“Forensic experts” in Egypt corroborated that assessment, noting that when you see body parts scattered in an 8 kilometer radius, something probably exploded. This led directly to a decision by the UK to suspend air traffic from Sharm el-Sheikh and now, Vladimir Putin has suspended flights to Egypt. Here’s AP with more:
Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed to suspend all Russian flights to Egypt on Friday after a recommendation by his chief of intelligence for a halt until the cause of last week's crash of a passenger jet in the Sinai Peninsula is determined, as an official said pieces of wreckage from the plane had been brought to Moscow to test for possible traces of explosives.
The suspension came after several days of statements by British and American officials that it was possible a bomb on board had brought down the Russia carrier Metrojet's Airbus A321-200, which crashed 23 minutes after takeoff from the Sinai resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, killing all 224 people on board. Russian and Egyptian officials had bristled at the statements, saying it was too soon to tell the cause.
The suspension, covering all of Egypt, is even more sweeping than that imposed by Britain, which had halted flights to Sharm el-Sheikh only.
"I think it will be reasonable to suspend all Russian flights to Egypt until we determine the real reasons of what happened," intelligence chief Alexander Bortnikov Bortnikov said in televised comments. "It concerns tourist flights most of all."
Meanwhile, British tourists are literally trapped at Sharm el-Sheikh. Back to AP:
The development is likely to hinder Britain's attempts to smoothly bring back the estimated 20,000 U.K. nationals in Sharm el-Sheikh. Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin said earlier Friday that "most of the people who were expecting to be home by tonight will be home by tonight."
Tempers ran high among the crowds of tourists in the airport departure lounge. When U.K. Ambassador John Casson appeared to reassure them, one irate British tourist who had waited at the airport since early morning hours, harangued him with angry shouts of: "When are we going home?"
Inside the crowded airport, British tourists said they were just anxious to get home.
"We were in the first flights that were cancelled Wednesday night, we were already queuing to board," said Amy Johnson, a 27-year-old British administrative assistant hoping to catch one of easyJet flights out.
Standing in a crush of people waiting to pass through security, Terrance Mathurian, a British builder vacationing with his family, said hotel staff told them in the morning to head to the airport, following conflicting information.
The British Department for Transport said travelers should not leave for the Sharm el-Sheikh airport unless they have a confirmed flight and asked for "people's patience at this difficult time."
Meanwhile, Dutch carrier KLM announced it instructed its passengers leaving from the Egyptian capital of Cairo that they can only take hand luggage on the plane departing Friday. A statement on KLM's website says the measure is "based on national and international information and out of precaution."
Right. So essentially, everyone is now convinced that this wasn't the result of some decade-old, faulty tail strike repair and more likely occurred because (gasp) someone detonated something on board.
Once again, the irony of IS Siani's contention that the world must prove a negative is that officials must indeed attempt to do so in order to ensure that whatever happened to Metrojet's Airbus A321-200 doesn't happen again.
Of course militants concerned that revealing the method to their proverbial madness may impair subsequent efforts to attack commercial flights needn't worry. Even if the world figures out how IS Sinai "downed" this particular Russian passenger plane, the CIA and the Saudis are more than willing to send MANPADS to rebels in Syria.
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One of the guys from 'NSYNC is literally in this video and people are accepting it as legit, huh?
Rita Katz must be smiling. And Oded Yinon, and the boys of PNAC and the Office of Special Plans, too.
http://smoloko.com/?p=3308
Which guy is from nysnc?
Prove your assertions Sherlock.
Puting links up to random shit about this and that is not proof of anything about anything.
WHICH guy is from nysnc? C'mon! out the CIA and all the "do badders" you constantly crap on about. Lets see your work...
Npink or not they are paid by the CIA no matter what their names.
blahblahfuckinblah...just tell me , please, where is/are the black box(s) and what do they say ?
This scene from 2001 is more realistic!
http://blog.world-mysteries.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/astronauts-clavius.jpg
I guess Hollywood's Front Screen Projection expertise died with Stanley.
The "video" of plane mishap recorded by "ISIS" has an evidentiary value of zero. It should not be included in any discussion of the event
If that was not immediately apparent to you, you should go back to watching sit-coms.
ISIS coming back...
http://motivationdose.com/electromagnetic-pulse-attack-emp-blackout-usa-...
Ohhhhh...I get it! You spelled alphadumbass wrong!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo-KmOd3i7s
You mad, bro?
You Mad Bro?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTFg2EgWIAA5N7H.jpg
I hope we don't get caught up in a tit-for-tat downed airliner war.
Counting Malaysian Airlines the count is at three.
Can't we just bring back the tit-for-tat chemical factory bombings?
You mad bro was a dude in nysnc?
Still waiting for Mr. Sherlock Einstein ESQ. to answer the question.
He said that one of those guys is in nysnc. We want to know which one, his name and then we can untangle this whole vide thing as a fake right?
I'll spell it out for you. He is saying it looks like a 90s boy band photo shoot, but instead of 5 young 'urban thug metrosexuals' we have 5 wannabe 'Islamic fundamentalists', complete with pasted on beards, and fake backdrop (fence looks fake, flowers look out of place, grass patch could very easily be used in a studio, to create this shot).
I think he though he was talking about the New York Secret Counsil of Necropheliacs. Which, according to our friend here, may be sponsored by the cia. Im guessing its a club that engages a certain segment of society that allows the Death Eaters the privacy to their dark desires.
Let me help you. This is EXACTLY what he said.
One of the guys from 'NSYNC is literally in this video and people are accepting it as legit, huh?
Now, besides the fact that you are now answering for him for some reason...hmm... You are telling us "it isn't really some guy in nysnc, just looks like a metrosexual" -- and that means what exactly?
The conspiracy jockeys keep mentioning "Hollywood" with this video. You say they have glued on beards. Do you people know what Hollywood is? Do you really think "Hollywood" would sit down a bunch of metrosexuals with glued on beards, holding cardboard knives with a table cloth as a backdrop and try and convince anyone of anything? BBBWWAAAHHHAAA!!!!!
Ferfucks sake people...
Here
Christ you're boring.
Definitely the middle one....
Conspicuously absent from MSM is the fact that Israel, USA, Poland, Greece were having war game air dogfights 40 miles from where the plane was shot down.
I caught that too, and it has gotten no play at all in western media. I heard it mentioned in Russian media. These are regular air superiority exercises. Air to Air combat using air superiority fighters and air to air missiles. Should this be investigated? Of course. It has already done this once before in 1980 during air to air exercises of NATO.
Aerolinee Itavia Flight 870" Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga attributed the cause of the crash to a missile fired from a French Navy aircraft, despite contrary evidence presented in Frank Taylor's 1994 report. On 23 January 2013 Italy's top criminal court ruled that there was "abundantly" clear evidence that the flight was brought down by a missile.[1] To date, this remains the deadliest aviation incident involving a DC-9-10/15 series."
Not quite right, Putin has suspended all flights to Egypt that aren't carrying a 50 megaton payload.
My thought exactly. What a world.
I remind myself that when Russia first starting showing up in Syria, I mentioned that would be bringing in tactical nukes. Because that's how the fuck they do things. There was a minor argument about how it would never happen, too risky. I think we might see it. Putin knows this is the end-game, nobody gives a shit anymore. If they can glass-over parts of the ME it puts the skids on all kinds of stupid shit might come their way. Drop a Russian civilian jet, eat gamma rays. You think God is great, you just learned something about one of God's more curious inventions, being nuclear decay.
heads are going to roll. when i piss off a bear, i get a 416 rigby, or 338 at least. when merica is pissed i get out chess board...
That's about it.
How many IDs do you post under?
Wait, I'll go look up the word "credibility". Can you hang around so I can read the definition to you?
new game has been here almost 4 years, and in 9 weeks you've come to this conclusion about him?
Because that same baby picture has been used under other IDs.
That isn't a common baby picture and it isn't forgetable.
prove it.
You do realize you just described the perfect Russian false flag operation right?
The terrible plane tragedy happens. Putins ratings go to an all-time--high--the--very--next--day. Remarkable isn't it? The very next day...
May I remind everyone, Putin was a Major in the FSB with the official title of "disinformation officer".
Hey 9 weeks, are you on assignment?
Getting paid for these posts?
He gets "paid" in code Red Mountain Dew and Doritos. Dont worry, there is a sportsball game on tonight and his "fantasy" players are due for some big numbers. He should stop posting for his sportsball fantasy.......
When everything is a false flag operation then nothing is.
ISIS is perfectly capable to pulling this off, and seems to enjoy the infamy, and they couldn't wait to claim credit. Looks good to me, no need to go any further than that.
While I'm on the subject, the whole world cannot fight ISIS and Islamoterrorism. Something is going to have to break. I can see international travel breaking, for sure. I can see an abrupt end to globalism, and who needs it anyway. Tighten borders, racial profiling, 72 hour internment centers for business travelers, the whole thing. You don't like it, stay home.
Sink the refugee boats at the docks in Turkey. Or on the Aegean. People will get the message and overnight that whole business model implodes.
Something is going to have to give and ISIS will eventually get what they want, which is simply all the ME and Africa as their private sandbox. Fine with me, they can behead who they like including European and American tourists, and can shoot down any plane or sink any ship they can reach. It's really fine so loing as they stay where they are and keep their people, their religion and their problems to themselves. But they break out of their playpen and piss off the wrong people (hi, Vladamir!) they get a couple tactical nukes and a 2 minute Youtube video reminding them and the world to stay the fuck in or out of the sandbox.
I gave you 3/4 upvote. The whole concept of intenrment is not what we want. Other than that, not bad.
But they break out of their playpen and piss off the wrong people (hi, Vladamir!) they get a couple tactical nukes and a 2 minute Youtube video reminding them and the world to stay the fuck in or out of the sandbox.
Yeah well for those of us old enough to have been alive within the last 3 to 5 decades of change it's been a real "party" in that sandbox since 1948?...
And just think!... If it hadn't been for London and Washington making it all possible we wouldn't have had to worry about any of what you are talking about coug?...
Well at the very least that "six-sided star" might have been a Union Jack with 58 "five-sided" stars on it instead!
"You do realize you just described the perfect Russian false flag operation right?
The terrible plane tragedy happens. Putins ratings go to an all-time--high--the--very--next--day. Remarkable isn't it? The very next day...
May I remind everyone, Putin was a Major in the FSB with the official title of "disinformation officer"."
So, let's play that scenario out then, and Russian public support for the ongoing Syrian support mission is significantly increased, with ready made international justification for said mission. Russia is consequently a more or less permanent fixture in Syria. Kinda fucks the whole alt-pipeline deal for Eur/US, doesn't it?
Either way you slice it, Russia is winning this geopolitical/geoeconomic battle hands down. And you know what? There is no moral/ethical superiority to the Eur/US interests, real or manufactured.
So what the fuck are you really arguing here?
Jonathan, Jordan, Joey, Donnie & Danny and the fucking orange flowers in the back
Breaking News: Newest ISIS Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By86PcLufOU
I feel as though I've been RickRolled -- shamed, soiled and dirty.
We still love you because...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbIEwIwYz-c
Oh, no, I already fell for it once.
Please, don't go...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8LJKIyxmqM&index=5&list=PLdInFsiD1uAggl...
Fuck that's better than half the crap I hear today...
The one with a beard, the other one with a beard, the cleanshaven one, the guy with a beard, and the one with a ridiculous beard.
Thats broad mass market appeal right there, for your average Islamic fundamentalist. Spot on market research these guys did. Some one call Lou Pearlman!
Even if the actors in the video are Arabs, I'll bet their agents are Jews.
Donovan was there. And Prudence Farrow.
The video just seem so fake. The total darkness in the background. The vivid orange flowers and full saturation of the lit colors. The prop looking fence in the back.
The center guy comes off like a cheap B grade actor who is a dork in real life trying to act like a fighter.
The cloths are too clean and tidy.
They guy on the far left, I definently feel I have seen him before. The guy on the far right also seems to be familuar.
And do ANY of those guys look like they have packed heavy gear, in hot dusty conditions while eating field food? Do their faces and necks look weathered and dried by the sun and wind while typically going a week or more without a bath? Not to me.
This was made in hollywood. Look for these queers in the next school shooting video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeoZ0JQ3lCE&spfreload=10
I'm sure the Russians are compiling their names as we speak. Short, life.
They look like a bunch of douchebag hipsters that just left their mommies basement!
END THE FED!
the millenials may be worthless living in mommies basement but remember that 'mommie' isnt paying the mortgage payment on the mcmansion with the basement....so who is the slacker here?
The gambit is pretty obvious.
Putin has proven in Ukraine that he cannot be goaded into action.
This is an attempt to get Russian popular opinion ,to force his hand.
They keep on telling us he's a dictator, so why would that affect him ?
The contradictions are getting so massive, even sheeple might begin to notice.
The contradictions are getting so massive, even sheeple might begin to notice.
Nope. Not while sportsball is on the teebee they wont. The trough of stupidity is a sweet, intoxicating slurry of flase promises, self promotion and uplifting exceptionalism. The world is an aweful place when there isnt anyone there to tell you how exceptional you are. Murikistanians will NOT look away from the trough. Its just too delicious.
Having them distracted with bread and circuses is a double edged sword.
Yep, distraction beats jingo.
It was much easier to whip up a blood frenzy before kim Kardasians ass blocked out
the horizon.
I agree, but it also helps promote patriotism and consumerism, which also is good for the economy because it focuses on the packadged food sector which is where a lot of jobs data comes from. . The model for the distraction workings is facinating to me.
Just wait until EBT goes under or, in the turmoil of the "markets" getting their faces ripped off, several NFL teams figure out that they're exposed to the financialization of the economy. They won't be feeling too patriotic then.
meh....It would take less than 2 weeks for most of them to die. I try not to put a lot of thought into it.
because it focuses on the packadged food sector which is where a lot of jobs data comes from. . The model for the distraction workings is facinating to me.
All of what you said Trulz is true.
You know you are "off your game" and rocker taking on an Eastern European powerhouse when you've sold out all of your finest technology to be manufactured "elsewhere" and you are fighting a potential nuclear conflict with a cutting edge "Little Debbie"!,,,
It brings to mind the "man on the street" questions. Sheeple Morons are a HUGE and embarrassing majority. And yes, George Washington and Abe Lincoln led us through the revolutionary war with Nazi Germany.
Force his hand to do what? I don't exactly understand what you're suggesting.
I guarantee you this airliner downing has only made Russians dislike ISIS more...it hasn't made them suddenly think oh we should not mess around there anymore.
Something done in rage, rather than his cool, calculating lawyerly approach.
Anything that can be portrayed as terrible to the RoW to disuade them from crossing into his camp.
Its a Hail Mary pass IMO, but it shows how desperate they are getting.
What makes you so sure that it was ISIS who did it? Here's what one of the most informed commentators on Syria is saying:
SAUDI ARABIA BEHIND RUSSIAN AIRLINER CRASH; BRITISH COVER-UP TO SAVE SAUDIS
Agree 100% - motive, stated intent and opportunity. Kadyrov's team is itching to get into this foght and Putin may just allow him to unleash the hounds.
Star Wars
As this will kill off the Egyptian tourism industry I would expect the Military there to go on a show no mercy offense against the Islamists. Thankfully none of the detention/summary executions will be covered by the western media as it will take place out in the desert somewhere and the bodies buried in a large pit.
If thy're lucky they will dead before those pits are filled.
Just toss 'em in the pyramids, those burial chambers are bigger than you think.
The African-American presidential candidate (forgot his name) says that the pyramids were built for the sole purpose of storing grain. Seriously.
Maybe a commodities pyramid scheme.
when i see the video of carson making that statement i know for a fact the mankind wont make it. the guy is smart enough to perfomr surgery but believes in a magic man in the sky....
I have not confirmed myself but reports are that Israeli firms supplied the security for that airport. Some reports say the Saudi's also have some component of the security or operations.
Maybe they should focus on that as well.
Now the sympathisers are trying to "pass the buck!"... an american tradition. much akin to "indian giving" but better.
dear american gubmit: Who created ISIS?
american gubmit: uhhh uhhhh, they did it!!! yeah! it was them all along, ya see?!
If it was a bomb then Egyptian authorities will investigate thoroughly with Russians. In the end it may actually draw those two closer together which can only be good for Russia and the middle east as a whole!
France 2 reports that a sound of an explosion was recorded by the blackboxes, according to official who had access to the recordings.
Putin! Leave Syria! We don't want to die for your bloody gas money!
Are these lies? I don't understand! Please help!
Russian Airstrikes Killed More Syrian Civilians Than ISIS Fighters The first month of Vladimir Putin's air war in Syria took almost 200 innocent lives, a human rights group has concluded
Dozens killed after Russia strikes de facto ISIS capital in SyriaAirstrikes by Russian warplanes on the Islamic State-held Syrian city of Raqqa killed 42 people earlier this week, including 27 civilians, the monitoring group Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on Friday.
Rebels recapture village in country's west as major fighting continuesSyrian rebels recaptured a village in the country's west on Friday, days after it was seized by government troops as part of a major offensive that began last month.
What coordination? Russia and Israeli warplanes play cat and mouse over Syria
Voactiv uses Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, so yeah it's probably bullshit. Reuters @ Buiness Insider too, more bullshit, Hymie.
I just know you voiced equal measures of concern over the 2+ million killed and the countless more driven out, crippled or orphaned by USSA warmongering in the region, not to mention all the noise I'm sure you raised about israel killing thousands of civilians in Palestine too?
Fuckin dickmouth
So which sources are credible? Only those russian? Yes, I also thought so. Only those sources that are controlled by Putin can be trusted. All other are controled by Anglo Zion Banking NWO Lizzard People Elite. Thank God Putin protects us from that information!
the Syrian Observatory is absolutely not credible - its one guy being used as a quote factory.
Your lazy sarcasm aside - Russian media comports strangely with independent media, and it is no less trustworthy than the absolute nonsense in the pages of the NYT, Wa Post and other, indeed, Zionist {and 'Establishment' media}.
NYT Still Pretends No Coup in Ukraine
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/01/06/nyt-still-pretends-no-coup-in-ukra...
The notion that American media is more trustworthy is absolutely absurd.
One simply has to read from as broad an array as possible and assume that everyone has an agenda, everyone is trying to convince you of a *version*.
Only its the US and its allies that have gone around the world bombing and killing based on pretext and lies, not the Russians.
So the false equivalency ploy makes sense - until you give it a moment's thought.
Cookie?
30,000 trained, paid and organized fascists appeared on the Madian in the matter of a couple days, armed and outfitted in body armor. But Euro Maidan is not a Coup according to NYT. Every peaceful protest gets a 30,000 man army arrive to help it along. Also, in Kiev itself it is now public information that most sniper shoots were fired from the Ukraine Hotel that was headquarters to Right Sector Fascists.
" One simply has to read from as broad an array as possible and assume that everyone has an agenda, everyone is trying to convince you of a *version*"
this^^^
"Only its the US and its allies that have gone around the world bombing and killing based on pretext and lies, not the Russians"
and this^^^
"So which sources are credible?"
Certainly not so much the Western ones that have been lying non-stop for the last 15 years. They destroyed their own credibility, reflected in their drop in audience / readership. And they don't lie in the pursuit of a just peace, they lie in pursuit of war and dominance, always pouring fuel on the fire. So many lies, too many to count, but remember Saddam's WMD, Libya's soldiers on Viagra, SAA gas attack on Ghouta, just to name a few.
Don't you get tired of being lied to repeatedly, by the same sources?
Syrian Observatory for Human Rights
Because this fraud guy in his small house in England has been exposed again and again as a liar and fraud, anyone using him as a source is making themsleves highly suspect. As if a fake source, as long as it says what you one wants, is good enough".
Western Media refuses to expose this guy for what he is. He hides up in his house, claiming people are out to kill him, and puts out posts about war crimes. He hasn't been to Syria for over a decade, and admits No First Hand Knowledge of his Syrian sources, he gets his information second hand from so called friends of friends in Syria. RT caught up to him and made a fool out of him on camera.
Yet he is the West's Top Source on Syrian war crimes.
Jack - the Aussie MSM are VERY happy to report the "Syrian Observatory for Human Rights" output as gospel truth.
RT / Al Jazeera? The former has never been mentioned (except maybe as the nebulous "Russian Media", and they really do use the "commas" strategy to denote "non-Mainstream acceptable source"!). I think I have seen Al Jazeera mentioned maybe once or twice, but again, definitely not a "go to" source for the Aussie Press.
Which is why "everyone" Down Under "knows" that "Putin Did It", whatever It was, and "Russia" really shot down MH-17!
You can't cure stupid, especially when the Stupid only sees what it wants to see. . . .
OMG ITS ALL A BIG DARK SCARY CONSPIRACY RUN BY JEWISH ALIENS FROM THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON!
You're fucking hysterical...
BOO! I'll bet you jumped didn't you!
BBBWWWAAAAHHHHAAAA!!!!!!
Rami Abdulrahman is not credible. Period. Whether on this side of the moon or the other, Jewish or alien or whatever you want it to be. Not in a boat, not with a goat. Not in a box, not with a fox. Not credible, Sam I Am.
https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2014/09/02/isisisil-completely-fab...
All obvious propganda sites.
Here is an excellent source of what happening there -- down to the minute.
BTW. This nugget jumps out.
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Big impact of Russia's suspension of Egypt flights
Roland Oliphant, our correspondent in Moscow, writes:
Quote
It’s not just the Egyptian economy that will hurt after this. Russia’s association of tour agencies says today’s decision cuts off their biggest market and sets them on a “direct path to bankruptcy.”
“Egypt is the single biggest selling destination on the Russian tourism market, and right now it is peak season. It’s the main destination for all the large tour operators,” said Irina Tyurina, a spokeswoman for the Russian Union of Tour Operators.
“There’s 50,000 Russians there now, and those who have to come home early or have bought tickets but now can’t travel, should get their money back from the tour operators. It’s a direct path to bankruptcy for many firms.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11978962/Russian...
Heavily invested in the tourist industry, are we? America is about to trigger a world warand you people are screeming aout lost vacation revenue? You are either one of the dumbest humans on earth that has learned to word good, or you are just plan software. Im guessing software. Nothiing but a program can be so blatantly stupid.
Dumb?
BBBWWWAAAAHHHAAAA!!!!!
I cut and paste the direct words from Roland Oliphant, our correspondent in Moscow, writes:
If you had a lick of mental capacity, you would understand the comment is about RUSSIAN investment in tourism because Egypt is Russias #1 spot for vacationing Russians.
ITS THE RUSSIANS SCREAMING ABOUT LOST TOURIST REVENUE EINSTEIN...
Dumb? Yes, look it up in the dictionary and there will be your picture...
Oliphant is doing a good job in his role, helping to bait the hook the Zbigniew Brzezinski acolytes are jiggling out there. Oliphant's editorial comments about the Russian people's unwillingness to take casualties suggests he's gotten his Garanimals mixed up. Russians aren't Americans.
Damn. You cut and pasted that all by yourself? I stand corrected, this whole time i just thought you could word real good.
Thanks for making my point!
You were even trying to make a point?! aww.... if anyone is reading this who cares, its retarded! aaww..,,....poor litle guy...ill try and pay better attention to your more rational thoughts next time and try and figure it out. for your sake i wish we could use crayons over the internet. it would be so much easier for you....dang it...i bet there is an app for that....
Thats it!! Im going to spend the rest of my days inventing an internet crayons app!! From this day forward I will devote my time to figure out a way, for the mentally frustrated of the world, capabilities to properly communicate!
Im going to name it after you alpha.
iCwayons
A Product of Alphastupididty, LLC
I'm sure that potential passenger-victims are only concerned about the financial health of the tour agencies. Maybe they'll fly there just to help them out.
Besides ISIS or any other terrorist group whoelse want the Russians out of Syria?...
Any idea?
By other terrorist groups, Im going to assume you mean other than muriKKKa, Britania, Saudi rabies, Isrehell, CEYEA/My6/MOUSEAD and them damn frenchies. Nope you covered them all.
Because ISIS, Manischewitz Land, the US and UK "intelligence" agencies said they did it, does this mean it's true? Who would reasonably believe these serial liars at this point in time? Credibility is shot.
I'd like to hear what the Russians have to say after a thorough investigation.
Did the Russians shoot down the Russians?
Just asking.....
Always ask who benefits?
He needs the Fx and all for the war stuff.
Cannot have tourists spending didgets also
I told you guys it was a bomb and Sharm security sucks. Egypt has had Jihadi problem for awhile but is now public. Egypt tourism is now proper fucked.
20k Brits to be evacuated with only one carry on due to security concerns - rightly so as Sharm has been Infiltrated by ISIS sympathizers. The Egyptians will keep the Brits 150 tons luggage as liquidated damages for David Cameron "destroying" their tourism industry.
Unlessl all moderate Islamic countries call ISIS aka Daesh out on the Persian carpet for its violent rhetoric and admit Islam lends itsel to the worship of violence and death this will turn into a global war and definitely transnational Sunni vs Shia war.
Egypt proper fucked their own tourism industry.
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"Airport guards regularly skip security checks for friends"
A retired senior official in Egypt's Tourism Ministry says "airport security procedures in Egypt are almost (all) bad."
Magdy Salim told news agency The AP he understands why people are scared - that's because security measures in Egypt are lax.
He said airport guards regularly skip security checks for friends or co-workers, and they often don't search people "if they look chic or if they come out of a fancy car."
He noted that a donkey was found wandering around Cairo airport in April, and in recent weeks, a stray dog wandered onto a runway. He said security forces were even called in to catch a rogue cat ahead of an inspection by international regulators.
A Russian source claiming to be a leak from State Security Intelligence, has claimed that Egyptian Security Agencies are staffed by people, half of whom work for Saudi Arabia the other half for Israel. Egyptian security is totally compromised. In Egypt, money can buy any state official in an eye blink, due to low pay, state workers live off of bribes. Saudi and Mossad, have deep roots inside Egyptian security.
A Russian source claiming to be a leak from State Security Intelligence, has claimed
Umm Jack, so why do YOU have access to Russian State Security Intelligence leaks?
Interesting. Very interesting.
Because don't you know Jack is "I"NSYNC?!!!
Hooks in the Jaw or Russia
Deeper and deeper they go
THere shall be blood on both sides
Who the hell thought that ISIS was just in Syria?
They are recruiting psycopaths around the globe
I don't think Russia and the US can even protect their own homelands from these folks
If the Call of the NWO is order thru chaos, here we are
change we can believe in
Soros's no national boundries and all.
ISIS = Israel and Vichy Washington, along with S.A. and Turkey. ISIS is Israel and its sayanim's golem
But then you knew that.
So you're telling me this whole scam, New World Order, if you will, is being spearheaded people with dual citizenship, and no national loyalties whatsoever? I am shocked, shocked, I say, and am going off to the corner for a good cry now.
I had a dream of Vlad and Obie in Thunderdome. Obie was wearing his bike helmet. Vlad had a chainsaw. It was awesome.
this works out well for obola. he hates egypt for tossing out his muslim brotherhood lackeys and gets putin to cancel their flights in and out of egypt. his bung brothers in saudi arabia keep pumping oil even if it's unprofitable to stomp out our domestic oil production as well as russia's oil production. obola is a plague of unprecendented proportion even if the cdc doesn't recognize it
Britain and the Us both are trying to say that this was a bomb planted by ISIS. The Russians are saying they will wait for the data.
The Russians are asking British Intel after making the statement that if they have some supporting intel they would like to hear it. They refuse to share any intel; For a disaster and possibly a terrorist attack investigation? Hmmmm Wonder why? What are they hiding from? Why would you not want to help an investigation? Why do they want to promote an unproven story? To deflect the blame? Somebody has something to hide.
Somebody is involved here that is going to reveal a nasty truth and I would not want to be them cause right now the bear is just smiling at you and he is all ears.
They are sharing data. The world knows that and you are full of it.
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Russia's top spy calls for suspension of Egypt flights
Russia's top spy has called for the suspension of flights between Russia and Egypt, in the first indications that Moscow now believes flight 7K9268 was destroyed by a bomb.
Alexander Bortnikov, the director of Russia's Federal Security Service, has said it is essential to halt flights to Egypt.
Suspended flights are first sign Moscow suspects terrorism
According to Russian news agency TASS, there are currently 45,000 tourists on holiday in Egypt. Russian tourists are the biggest group in Sharm, followed by Britons.
Vladimir Putin has ordered the suspension of tourist flights from Russia to Egypt and the evacuation of all Russian citizens still in the country, in the first signs that Russian officials suspect Metrojet flight 7K9268 may have been destroyed by terrorists.
"Mr Putin has asked the government to develop a mechanism for realization of the reccomendation of the National Anti-terrorrism Committee and ensure the return home of Russian citizens," Mr Putin's press secretary Dmitry Peskov said on Friday afternoon.
They are sharing data. The world knows that and you are full of it.
You say, but do we believe you?
No Alfalfa hammer head is full of it and a liar.
The UK government has not shared its intelligence reports on the crash of the Russian aircraft A321 in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula with Russia, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Friday.The Tunisia beech job was very effective.
It inflated the Spanish and Italian economies over the summer.
It seems like part of the banks armoury.
I hope to live to see a another big wave of Russian tourists visiting Europe again. Wearing green and arriving by parachute. The place is being run by nazis again.
What's ISIS?
A proxy for the Oded Yinon plan.
International, Organized Zionism has captured the US, UK, France, Canada, and is disproportionately powerful elsewhere.This occupation by an elite minority is open, obvious and hostile - from the oligarchs to the media moguls to the NGOs to the think tanks.
And they want *you* to bleed and pay for "Greater" Ersatz Israel.... and they just HATE IT when you find out.
I'm suspicious of the dude NOT covering his nuts. He definately was the trigger man.
An update of the Tourney between Langley and Moscow this first week of November.
As you know, on Wednesday the Big Big Three, Barack Obama, President of the US, David Cameron, Prime Minister of the UK, and Doofus al-Evil, the US appointed Emir of ISIL, tried to co opt the investigation of the crash of the Russian plane in Sinai.
ISIS first claimed credit for the downing of the Russian passenger jet an hour after the plane went down. Six days later they're telling the world that "their method will be revealed soon."
WHAT THEY ARE REALLY SAYING IS THAT THEIR METHOD WILL BE REVEALED AS SOON AS THE CIA TELLS THEM WHAT METHOD THE CIA USED AND THAT ISIS SHOULD CLAIM THE SAME.
THE CIA'S FEAR IS THAT THE INVESTIGATORS WILL UNCOVER A SOPHISTICATED EXPLOSIVE THAT THE RETARDNIKS IN ISIS COULD ONLY HAVE GOTTEN FROM LANGLEY OR MI6.
" RETARDNIKS IN ISIS COULD ONLY HAVE GOTTEN FROM LANGLEY OR MI6."...
You forgot Mossad.
BAM!!!
If this investigation gets troublesome, there will be a fight in Langley between those who wanted the plane to go down in the drink and those who wanted it down in the desert for the propaganda value.
that sums it up right there. arguing over which aspect of treason to commit and cover up. this is whats wrong. exactly.
A different alternative (some might say 'conspiracy') theory on the Russian passenger plane crash in Sinai as well as 9/11.
As a side note, I wonder why nobody in the MSMs is talking about the Russian plane flight route change prior to the downing.
" RETARDNIKS IN ISIS COULD ONLY HAVE GOTTEN FROM LANGLEY OR MI6."..
You forgot Massod.
The US/UK intelligence guys screwed up the timeline this past week, putting out new rules for their peole and announcing they had intel proving IS did it before cluing in the Russians.
It was a surprisingly blatant mistake. Let's see, whom do we know in a position of power in Russia who would be intimately familiar with the way this game is played? Who would know immediately exactly what this timeline error signifies?
The US/UK has amazingly good information on what IS is doing, n' est ce pas? And fantastic surveillance data, right out of the chute, in stark contrast to the seeming complete inattention paid to Malaysian jetliners.
Telling.
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On October 27, 1964 -- here's what Ronald Reagan said
Did he realize how prescient he was, in thus describing the United States of America?
If the British and American governments are saying it was a bomb, then you can be sure it was NOT a bomb.
I am leaning toward believing that it was an act taken by the US and Israel during their war games from a location nearby the downing. Too much of a coincidence.
The video was not clear enough for me to determine if a missile was involved or the altitude a missile might have originated from.
You doubt Putin himself?
Vladimir Putin has ordered the suspension of tourist flights from Russia to Egypt and the evacuation of all Russian citizens still in the country, in the first signs that Russian officials suspect Metrojet flight 7K9268 may have been destroyed by terrorists.
"Mr Putin has asked the government to develop a mechanism for realization of the reccomendation of the National Anti-terrorrism Committee and ensure the return home of Russian citizens," Mr Putin's press secretary Dmitry Peskov said on Friday afternoon.
That's a valid thought. We should be asking "why the USA and UK are in such a hurry to claim bomb". It was a Russian plane, and the US and UK have no interest in this, unless they do have a hidden interest in this.
Lets harken back to MH-17. The instant and coordinated lies across all western media within hours, suggests a link between all Media Corporations and their Editorial Staffs. A German journalist wrote a book about his work for the CIA as a german journalist. He was under the impression that CIA was active across all media corporations and their editorial staff. I think MH-17 proved the fact that CIA does control much of what we read and hear. Otherwise, who can explain the exact same stories in all western media appearing before any of them even had a chance to read each others work! Odds of replication without prior knowledge are zero!
Whether or not it was a bomb matters a lot less than who knew when and how they knew it. Like, for instance, if they knew it was a bomb before it blew up.
The details and pattern of the media operation are pretty interesting, but more matters of art than fact.
The US and UK are in a hurry to establish the parameters of the results of the investigation before Russia. does. They want the world to think it was ISIS and one of ISIS's bombs. Case closed.
The Russian's investigation is looking for two things: 1) how, when, and where the bomb was planted on the plane; 2) and most important was the bomb constructed of chemicals that ISIS couldn't possibly have gotten. With a high tech trigger and a remote capability again that ISIS couldn't possibly have had.
Obviously the trigger and remote are gone with the blast, but Russia now is wiping all the metal and plastic remains, inside and out, for periodic table fingerprints on the remains of the plane. Perhaps finding traces of a thermobaric eplosion that ISIS would not have the means to construct.
As I said earlier, there might be a kerfuffle now in Langley between those in the CIA who wanted it to explode over the Mediterranean and those who wanted where pictures could be shot to get the Agency's story out on Fox 24/7.
Isn't it interesting that this plane tragedy happens and suddenly nobody is talking about Putins disater in Ukraine?
Why would that be?
Isn't it interesting the Russian economy is terrible and suddenly nobody mentions it.
Why would that be?
Isn't it interesting that people are no longer mentioning Russia spending $5 MILLION per day in Syria whilst the Mother country suffers.
Why would that be?
Just asking...
Firstly, I don't accept your assertions. I read Russian media, and those stories are covered every day, in great detail. Do you even know what media is active in Russia? If you don't, then your assertions fall flat. I mean, even in English, the above subjects are reported in detail and daily. Are you really limited to US Main Stream Media? If that is the case, then of course you don't read about anything.
A few things "Jack"
You read Russian media every day. OK. Why do your read Russian media everyday and why are you here everyday writing in English under the name "Jack Burton"?
I monitor RT pretty closely because I don't speak Russian. They aren't saying much about my points above right now. Actually, RT is much better than people let on and it doesn't get enough credit. It's pretty much like Fox News but for Russia but if you know that going in, then you're ok.
Here is some news from Ukraine. "
“In Zaporozhye, attacks on ATO participants have begun”In Zaporozhye, an unknown group dressed in black is attacking Ukrainian soldiers and brutally beating them. A soldier with the call-sign “Cat” from the 81st air-assault brigade recently spent days in the hospital. This has been reported by 061.ua"
More Ukraine news you never read about.
" A fight broke out between the deputy/volunteer battalion commander, Andrei Tetruk (elected from the People's front of Arseniy Yatsenyuk) and deputy Alexandra Kuzhel (from Batkivshchyna of Yulia Tymoshenko) in Verkhovnaya Rada of Ukraine. A former participant of the ATO hit a female colleague on the head with a bottle during the discussion after the meeting of parliament."
I missed this in US Main Stream media: "
The Russian Air Force has carried out 81 sorties hitting 263 Islamic State (IS) targets in two days in Syria, the Defense Ministry said in a statement.
Russian jets hit targets that mostly belong to Islamic State and other militants in such provinces as Aleppo, Damascus, Deir ez-Zor, Idlib, Latakia, Raqqa, Hama and Homs, Igor Konashenkov, a Defense Ministry spokesman, said Thursday. After their combat missions all the jets returned to the Russian Khmeimim airbase in Latakia, he said."
Jack,
Did you check the spikes on the desks of the editors of NYT, WaPo, WSJ, etc.?
Well,
Maybe he's printing rubles the way your beloved Shining City on a Hill has been printing dollars for the last 6 years? Put your dentures back in and try to come up with a better one than Ukraine. Idiot.Well, you argued that very well. Almost cough cough professional...
just put your dentures back in
your toothless gums aren't as pretty as they used to be
The Mockies over at Charlie Hebdo seemed to find it funny that this plane crashed, not so funny when a bunch of their people got killed at work back in January:
http://sputniknews.com/cartoons/20151106/1029698946/JeNeSuisPasCharlie.html
One of the pictures shows a jihadist of the Islamic State (IS) militant group and plane’s debris falling around him. The caption says “IS: Russian Aviation intensifies its bombing campaign.
Mocking a plane crash where 224 people were killed, such a rich source of humor hahahaha so fucking hysterical fucking faggot frogs
http://sputniknews.com/world/20151106/1029683872/plane-crash-charlie-heb...
I saw this yesterday. Honestly, given what we call "Western Values" I fully expected the guardians of culture in France to come up with something like this. When their people die, it's a world wide event. When others die, it is a joke. Let's be clear, this story has made it deep into Russian media. Need I tell you what the mood is now?
They mock E V E R Y T H I N G.
Get a fucking grip. Tasteles and improper? Yea sure but the Islamic fanatics said the same thing about the cartoons of Muhammad. Where were the complaining Russians when Charlie Hebdo was making those cartoons? Cheering Charlie Hebdo is where... Now? The Russians want Charlie Hebdo shut down.
Russia, America, Islam, France, Jews E V E R T H I N G AND E V E R Y O N E is mocked by Charlie Hebdo. Tasteless and often outrageous but that is free speech.
My favorite Hebdo cartoon about Israel, was the one where they were making fun of israelis for cutting the arms off of little kids guilty of throwing rocks at tanks. Now granted the rocks they were throwing used to be their schools and in some cases those of their own homes after a good old fashioned, but hilarious, "demolishing". They really let them have it in that issue.
Hebdo is a genius.
That's what the French call freedom of the press. As long as it is vulgar and insulting it's ok.
Here are the actual cartoons with English translation from French.
It is tasteless but its politics and it is poignhant. Russia went to Syria and picked a fight with ISIS.
Is it not the case that a Russian passenger plane was downed after the Russian air force bombed ISIS for a month, while no US planes were terrorized after the US air force bombed ISIS for a year.
IS IT A PUZZLEMENT?
EITHER THE CIA IS ISIS
OR HAS A DEAL WITH ISIS,
WHICH IS THE SAME THING.
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about the picture of the boy band
more propaganda to show the world how caucasian and foreign their troops are. Bah.
Christopher Bollyn, the leading 9/11 investigator, finds the evidence pointing to the Russian flight being brought down by by remote hijacking. Possibly by Israel's Military Intelligence Unit 8200. Western media are oddly coy about discussing technology that America displays on a regular basis for bombing weddings.
http://bollyn.com/#article_15304