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Is Washington Preparing For World War III?
Submitted by Patrick Martin via WSWS.org,
The US military-intelligence complex is engaged in systematic preparations for World War III. As far as the Pentagon is concerned, a military conflict with China and/or Russia is inevitable, and this prospect has become the driving force of its tactical and strategic planning.
Three congressional hearings Tuesday demonstrated this reality. In the morning, the Senate Armed Services Committee held a lengthy hearing on cyberwarfare. In the afternoon, a subcommittee of the House Armed Services Committee discussed the present size and deployment of the US fleet of aircraft carriers, while another subcommittee of the same panel discussed the modernization of US nuclear weapons.
We will provide a more detailed account of these hearings, which were attended by a WSWS reporter. But certain preliminary observations can be made.
None of the hearings discussed the broader implications of the US preparations for war, or what a major war between nuclear-armed powers would mean for the survival of the human race, and even of life on our planet. On the contrary, the hearings were examples of what might be called the routinization of World War III. A US war with China and/or Russia was taken as given, and the testimony of witnesses and questions from senators and representatives, Democrats and Republicans alike, concerned the best methods for prevailing in such a conflict.
The hearings were component parts of an ongoing process. The witnesses referred to their past writings and statements. The senators and representatives referred to previous testimony by other witnesses. In other words, the preparations for world war, using cyber weapons, aircraft carriers, bombers, missiles and the rest of a vast array of weaponry, have been under way for a protracted period of time. They are not a response to recent events, whether in the South China Sea, Ukraine, Syria or anywhere else.
Each of the hearings presumed a major US conflict with another great power (sometimes unnamed, sometimes explicitly designated as China or Russia) within a relatively short time frame, years rather than decades. The danger of terrorism, hyped incessantly for the purposes of stampeding public opinion, was downplayed and to some extent discounted. At one point in the Senate hearing on cyberwarfare, in response to a direct question from Democrat Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, the panel witnesses all declared that their greatest concern was nation-states, not terrorists.
One of the witnesses at that hearing was Dr. Peter W. Singer, listed as a “Strategist and Senior Fellow” for New America, a Washington think tank. He titled his presentation, “The Lessons of World War 3.” He began his prepared statement with the following description of that imagined conflict:
“US and Chinese warships battle at sea, firing everything from cannons to cruise missiles to lasers. Stealthy Russian and American fighter jets dogfight in the air, with robotic drones flying as their wingmen. Hackers in Shanghai and Silicon Valley duel in digital playgrounds. And fights in outer space decide who wins below on Earth. Are these scenes from a novel or what could actually take place in the real world the day after tomorrow? The answer is both.”
None of the hearings saw any debate about either the likelihood of a major war or the necessity of winning that war. No one challenged the assumption that “victory” in a world war between nuclear-armed powers is a meaningful concept. The discussion was entirely devoted to what technologies, assets and human resources were required for the US military to prevail.
This was just as true for the Democratic senators and representatives as for their Republican counterparts. By custom, the two parties are seated on opposite sides of the committee or subcommittee chairmen. Without that arrangement, there would be no way of detecting, from their questions and expressions of opinion, which party they belonged to.
Contrary to the media portrayal of Washington as deeply divided between parties with intransigently opposed political outlooks, there was bipartisan agreement on this most fundamental of issues, the preparation of a new imperialist world war.
The unanimity of the political representatives of big business by no means suggests that there are no obstacles in the path of this drive to war. Each of the hearings grappled, in different ways, with the profound crisis confronting American imperialism. This crisis has two major components: the declining economic power of the United States compared to its major rivals, and the internal contradictions of American society, with the deepening alienation of the working class and particularly the youth.
At the House subcommittee hearing on aircraft carriers, the chairman noted that one of the witnesses, a top Navy admiral, had expressed concern over having “an 11-carrier navy in a 15-carrier world.” There were so many challenges confronting Washington, he continued, that what was really needed was a navy of 21 aircraft carriers—double the present size, and one that would bankrupt even a country with far more resources than the United States.
The Senate hearing on cybersecurity touched briefly on the internal challenge to American militarism. The lead witness, retired Gen. Keith Alexander, former director of the National Security Agency and former head of the Pentagon’s CyberCommand, bemoaned the effect of leaks by NSA contractor Edward Snowden and Army private Chelsea Manning, declaring that “insider attacks” were one of the most serious threats facing the US military.
Democratic Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia asked him directly, referring to Snowden, “Should we treat him as a traitor?” Alexander responded, “He should be treated as a traitor and tried as such.” Manchin nodded heartily, in evident agreement.
While the witnesses and senators chose to use the names of Snowden and Manning to personify the “enemy within,” they were clearly conscious that the domestic opposition to war is far broader than a few individual whistleblowers.
This is not a matter simply of the deep-seated revulsion among working people in response to 14 years of bloody imperialist interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Libya, Syria, Yemen and across North Africa, important as that is.
A war between the United States and a major power like China or Russia, even if it were possible to prevent its escalation into an all-out nuclear exchange, would involve a colossal mobilization of the resources of American society, both economic and human. It would mean further dramatic reductions in the living standards of the American people, combined with a huge blood toll that would inevitably fall mainly on the children of the working class.
Ever since the Vietnam War, the US military has operated as an all-volunteer force, avoiding conscription, which provoked widespread opposition and direct defiance in the 1960s and early 1970s. A non-nuclear war with China or Russia would mean the restoration of the draft and bring the human cost of war home to every family in America.
Under those conditions, no matter how great the buildup of police powers and the resort to repressive measures against antiwar sentiments, the stability of American society would be put to the test. The US ruling elite is deeply afraid of the political consequences. And it should be.
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Before WWI and WWII is was clear for years that a war was coming. Yet somehow no one was able to figure out how to avoid it.
Screw these stupid wars; we die and pay while elitist and banker whores profit.
They must think all the 'hateful' comments for them on the internet are generated by Russian and Chinese spambots. If they would step out of DC and their gated mansions for just a moment, they'd know that wasn't the case and who the public considers to be the real traitors.
No draft.
US command remembers fragging of Vietnam, & doesn't want a repeat. 1000+ incidents, many more unreported, records started in '69. MSM avoids this like the FED's owners (Rothschilds).
"in May 1971, the U.S. Army in Vietnam temporarily halted the issuance of grenades to nearly all its units and soldiers in Vietnam, inventoried stocks of weapons, and searched soldier's quarters, confiscating weapons, ammunition, grenades, and knives. This action, however, failed to reduce fragging incidents as soldiers could easily obtain weapons in a flourishing black market among nearby Vietnamese communities."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragging#Fragging_incidents
DeadFred, WW1 was being planned by psychopathic central bankers and their political concubines at the end of the 19th century. Everything was in place by summer of 1914, and the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was the trigger. All the dominoes fell one after the other, millions were wiped off the Earth, and the world map was redrawn.
As soon as the smoke cleared in 1918 the same psychopaths went to work planning for the next big bloodletting to finish up loose ends from the first one. The only difference between then and now is that technology is widely available, so the psychos do not have the benefit of complete secrecy and indeed get busted on a regular basis.
The question is why the media insists upon carrying the water for the warmongers even as they plan conflagration against the will of Americans.
America is now everything the Founding Fathers and the Constitution loathed, feared and fought. Freedom lovers everywhere prepare. The stars and stripes is the new swastika, Mcain a would be Hitler, while Putin preaches peace, practices Christianity alone amoung world leaders and won't back down as he prepares for war against these evil men. The greatest American is a Russian.
If you're US Military and you're reading this, please just drop out and quit. Go AWOL, make a video giving your reasons. You're not fighting for the USA, you're fighting for this miserable faggot Obama and his banker buddies. We will support you and stand behind you.
What's funny is these neoconservatives and neoprogressives probably actually think that war was unavoidable and that they can win. They're retarded.
Right now, the U.S. is about as prepared for a world war as an imaginary U.S. would have been before WW2 if it had no steel industry and no manufacturing industry. How can I say this? Because war is no longer won with steel and explosives, it's won with technology. And all the microchip foundries have left the U.S.... we have no technology manufacturing in the U.S. anymore. Picking a real fight against a real enemy right now is like starting a shooting war with a well-armed neighbor after you gave away all your gunpowder. Just about grade-A retarded.
Why can't the US live peacefully alongside other Nations? Neither China nor Russia has done anything to threatedn the security of the US, so what is this really about?
The answer is always complicated, but dominant themes are resource scarcity and competition for CONTROL among cartels dominated by manipulative psychopaths.
I don't think there will be a war in the sense that the abovementioned aging "Brass" conceive it, though it will not be for their lack of trying. We are fortunate that many of those penis-envious old warhawks and those who manipulate them from behind are nearing the end of their lives and will soon be pushing up daisies. The internet has unlocked ideas previously kept hidden, like the fact that all wars are bankster wars, artificial contrivances, exercises in mass manipulation. We may see continued fertilization of bogeymen like Al Qaeda and ISIS and Global Warming and foreign-funded color revolution insurgencies like in Kiev, and Proxy War may become more violent and eventually move closer to home, always to serve political expedients, but the most important war is the war of ideas, and that war is already lost. The proverbial cat is out of the bag. 'False Flag' is a common household term. The real enemy to be defeated is the one who stages this shit. Moral high ground goes to those who restore accountability and refuse to play the old games.
Political Ponerology: A Science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes
I like the cut of your jib, Lore. Political Ponerology is a book that is SO important that I have often considered buying a bunch of copies and forcing people to read them at gunpoint, if only to drive the point home (but obviously - sarcasm here, folks). That book would not exist today if it weren't for the work of Laura Knight-Jadzyck, who was putting out info on psychopaths and the dude who wrote that book and was sitting on it read her material, and responded to her - and she made it happen. Thanks for the link; it is VERY important, especially at this time in our history.
WASHINGTON, you can not win this war.
Let's just look at this like a wargame. Just for fun.
“At the House subcommittee hearing on aircraft carriers, the chairman noted that one of the witnesses, a top Navy admiral, had expressed concern over having “an 11-carrier navy in a 15-carrier world.” There were so many challenges confronting Washington, he continued, that what was really needed was a navy of 21 aircraft carriers—double the present size...”
Aircraft carriers, indeed surface ships, are relics, sitting ducks, target practice. Can this admiral be retired?
“A non-nuclear war with China or Russia would mean the restoration of the draft and bring the human cost of war home to every family in America.”
So an all out land war in Asia? Paging Douglas MacArthur.....
A wise man once said:
"War is when the government tells the people who it's enemies are.
Revolution is when the people figure it out for themselves."
If Mikhail Lesin was in fact just assassinated in DC then, YES, they are prepping for WW3
Did a Top Russian Media Mogul Just Get Assassinated in Washington, D.C.?
http://themillenniumreport.com/2015/11/19456/
Dude, thanks for the heads-up. That could be a pretty big deal. Sure Putin isn't happy about it. The guy was only 57. Heart attack in DC hotel room sounds pretty damn fishy.
It is usually the case that the machismo, bravado, and chest beating of the empire reaches a crescendo just before it collapses.
Preparing? We are IN world war 3 now.
I have to disagree with the author on this one. I believe it's too difficult to fight a world war while simulataneously fighting a civil war at the same time.
jb
Could go like this, www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMG8SVrqstg (Michael Clayton - Tracking Shot)
WW3 will start soon, it is all in Prophecy!!!
http://motivationdose.com/is-america-babylon/
Ain't that the truth!
Lucky for the elites this is an 'all volunteer military' so their kids are safe.
I bet TPTB didnt see Trump upsetting the 'ol apple cart of chosen establishment elitist freaks...Trump better have REAL good security.
Trump now has secret service protection.
Just like JFK.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ex-putin-aide-found-dead-in-us-hotel...
Officially "Heart Attack" but ... Coke and 18-y.o. hookers can be dangerous to those older folks.
He wasn't just an Ex Putin aide.
He was a big russian political figure and mass media expert credited with inspiring the creation of Russia Today.. Lesin, a former press minister and ex-head of Gazprom-Media,
Lesin believed in making Russian views heard at the international level. “It’s been a long time since I was scared by the word propaganda,” Lesin said back in 2007. “We need to promote Russia internationally. Otherwise, we’d just look like roaring bears on the prowl.”
In other news:
‘Underwater drone with explosives’ spotted near Baltic Nord Stream pipelineThey are doing with Trump the same game plan as Obama , he will say what we want to hear and then when he gets elected ( not by us but by the board of directors , congress as he is a CEO of the corporation "UNITED STATES") he will then do a 180 and it will be business as usual by the corporation for another two terms . The only way to stop this is by revolution .
I agree about the revolution, but also very much oppose killing people. That won't be necessary.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/01/08/operation-afghanistan-1000...
There is exactly zero possibility authorities can control the country by force of arms.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/02/17/why-patriots-can-win/
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/patriot-games/
I think we need to keep the pressure on, many more comments in their strongholds, e.g. Washington Times, and all gun rights, etc. people push hard. I think our authorities understand all this as well as I do, that is why they backed down at Bundy Ranch. We win just by preparing and letting the collapse happen.
Preparing includings reading and understanding and building connections. If it becomes time to implement a Bunny Bangers or Afghanistan 1000X solution, what are you going to do to help? We need bunches of Youtube HOWTOs on all that, and everyone needs to get onto an overlay net, set up a TOR exit node.
The answer is just too simple for people to understand. When individual people accumulate too much wealth and-or power, they become opulopaths. This is a form of moral insanity. It inevitably leads to disaster on a vast scale. But only for the peasants who have some notion about sanity. Which the opulopaths utterly lack.
The post war system was founded on the USA being both the dominant industrial and military power. The banking mafia unbalanced the system when they off-shored US industry and that set this process in motion.
This dual shit-i-zen bankster evil has been going on for a long long time. Wars in Europe to mass murder innocents for profits started hundreds of years ago.
It started early in the USA. Andrew Jackson was the 7th President of the United States and one of the best against European tribal family central banksters. They tried to kill him more than once.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson#Attack_and_assassination_at...
After Jackson - any President supporting gold/silver as money, againt central banks or fiat was killed.
Garfield, Lincoln (sold out for bankster Civil War but was flirting wiyth fighting central banks) McKinley (for bi-metalism), JFK. They may have also killed Zachary Taylor and Harding.
Anyone know that during Harding's administration, Eugene Debs, a socialist politician, got 10 years in prison for speaking out against WW1! Harding pardoned him.
You can see the psychopaths have been pushing endless war for $$$ for a long time.
The youth has always gone to war over their elders failed beliefs.
Drakes Drum.....
"Billy Bob? A deserter? Gee, Mr Fed, I have not seen him. I know he was stationed in Alaska and likes to hang out there."
Yes,,, Too bad the forefathers are not here to enjoy their "strong central government" they wanted when trashing the Articles for the Constitution.
They expected a free press to point out the abuses and a concerned citizenry to make the traitors pay any time they stepped out of line. We're now sorely lacking in both of those categories.
So true. Russia is now, the America of past. It now harbours the persecuted (I.e. Snowden), among others. The tables have turned. Putin now stands tall. I have high respect for the man.
That's because 98% of all media are owned by 6 corporations, all of which have extensive ties to the MIC and government. In fact, there is a merry-go-round of elites among the top rungs of all organizations, MIC-politics-corporations-media-etc., that all share one thing: membership in the Council for Foreign Relations, a 'finishing school' for top university grads that preps these elite scum for their roles at the top of the pyramid. And the CFR is only one such organization; there are many more, every country hosting some, and all are interconnected.
For a good read on what WWI and WWII were really about, and an explanation of the CFR, check out Larry Abraham's 'Call it Conspiracy' from 1985. The first edition, 'None Dare Call it Conspiracy,' by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham, is available as a free downloadable PDF file if you just do a simple 'net search.
ALL WARS ARE BANKER WARS...always have been.
I may be wrong, but I think 5 of the 6 have Zionist owners. I suppose #6 would also be a Zionist, but only in political sympathy.
I'm in my 60s. When I was about 15 I remember (because that's when I started shooting sports photos) there were several hundred independent radio stations and newspapers.
I see Western MSM as a wholly owned subsidiary of the MIC, every where I read is constant fear mongering, lies and aggression, even when caught in lies it's ignored as though they did not print them. Not to say that certain sections of Russia Press is any different.
The presstitutes, those of the $600 haircuts and .60 brains are not the media. They are the propagandists of the TPTB.
There are a few truth seekers, such as Tyler, GW and others that are posted here at ZH. Most others, have long since been banned from op-ed pages long ago and had to seek the refuge of the Internet, the last bastion of free press, free speech and free of censorship.
The Deep State is getting nervous, because people are no longer tuning in, but tuning out the incessant babblers on the TV and major "faux news." The six corporations that own 90% of the media, are losing the battle for controlling the "news." This is exactly why they want to gain control of the Internet. The pendulum is swinging the other way now.
More and more truth seekers are posting every day. They want to link and share their sites with more like minded authors, bloggers and people, so that we can maybe, just maybe shoot enough holes in the propagandists blather and lies.
I was beginning to think that journalism, much like their brethren, common sense, rule of law, ethics and honesty, had died... but recently, especially after finding The Hedge four years ago, I see that journalism has been making a comeback.
Thanks to all that post and comment here, especially the Tyler's, for I have a renewed sense of purpose again, something that I have been lacking for a while...
you are right
but, it is important to include.. it is all and has always been directly connected/related to revolutions in industry(s)
r
https://enronnext101.wordpress.com/
Fleur, you ask why the media insists on carrying water for the warmongers. Fleur, there is no "media"; there is only propaganda. If we can hold firmly to that fact, we need not be deceived. It is all propaganda. THERE IS NO "MEDIA". THERE ARE ONLY AGENDAS. The propagandists you speak of are only carrying out their masters' commands and doing so gladly, willing slaves that they are, gladly down on their knees in alleyways, giving blowjobs to the drunk cowboys of war.
Well when you're forced @ gunpoint to go fight an "enemy" that the enlightend US CONgress (or President wants), it might become handy to off the asshole lieutenant that makes you take that hill no matter what.
Yeah, I remember that. The VC did not allow MPs or CIC to search their quarters, haha.
Don't we all wish.
What is the Patriots' record? Did you see what whats'ername did this week? Can you believe Obama is such a pussy letting Putin walk all over him like that?
Seriously, the majority around here are pretty braindead and unaware.
The NSA knows who all of these 'hateful' comments are coming from....
Good. Fuck you NSA. And I'm sure that Russian and Chinese ICBMs are targeting NSA facilities too. Even if not, it'll be kind of hard to keep them up and running when the power grid is down for good. How's that for national security, huh douchebags?
Exactly, fuck you NSA, fuck you Obama, fuck you CIA ISIS creators and maintainers, fuck big oil, fuck corporate cronyism, fuck Congress, fuck every mother fucking piece of shit lying scumbag politician Bildeberg Rothschild Jew banker pawn, fuck you Ben Bernanke, fuck you Janet Yellen, fuck you Lloyd Blankfein, fuck you Jamie Dimon, fuck you CFTC precious metals rigging mother fuckers, fuck you Federal Reserve unconstitutional fucks, fuck you fiat USD, fuck you UAW, fuck you Obamacare, fuck you Hillary Clinton, fuck you Nancy Pelosi, fuck all you want to confiscate American citizen gun mother fuckers who false flag nearly every shooting, fuck you MIC for every war since WWI, fuck you SS administration, fuck you FBI and your bullshit apology for 1k+ police officer killings of citizens in 2015, fuck all you Jade Helm master the human domain mother fuckers, and fuck you every single individual who has ever stepped own OUR FOREFATHERS CONSTITUTION. YOU WILL PAY.
I have a question for your average NSA desk grunt contractor (as opposed to the cunts in charge)...
How the fuck do you live with yourself???
Some of you must torture yourselves daily on how you are pissing on fellow Americans.
Edward Snowden has bigger balls and a conscience than the lot of you combined.
Those fuckers now have a big operation @ Fort Gordon in GA. I actually DO know an average NSA desk grunt contractor. He's young and recently got out of the military. To him, it's just a job. He hasn't shown any dogmatic zeal for 'protecting Murrica from turrists' (yet). Who knows, part of his job might be to keep an eye on me.
Meawhile, the intermittent direct military helicoper overflights of my property continue. Yest was a daytime MH-47E sightseer. Looked like they brought the full sensor package, incl the FLIR, on the front. Must have been in a hurry, they hadnt raised the ramp in the back to the closed position. Hope they got a good image of my bare ass.
I could not of put it fucking better myself :)
All you have to do is cut the Power. They require massive cooling for their computers. No A/C, no database.
Backup generators, all mission critical IT infrastructure has it. Plus a fully mirrored infrastruture 1000s of miles away. One goes down the other is brought up. It is not as though no one has thought about this.
EMP hardening of buildings and circuits, that could be a bigger challenge.
Not really. It's the direct hits that they have to worry about the most.
What good is a generator without fuel to run it?
Also, what good is a Generac generator, period?
Cut the water. They use millions of gallons per day for that cooling, and then their backup generators would be useless.
Millions of gallons per day? Pure hyperbole.
Instead of spouting drivel, educate yourself - https://www.cloudyn.com/blog/10-facts-didnt-know-server-farms/
You're welcome.
Instead of spouting pure drivel yourself, you should perhaps do some fucking fact checking.
Did you miss the keywords "redacted" and "ballparked" in an article on a climate change activist propaganda web site?
Under your "best case" scenario, you are saying that an agency of the US government designed and built a facility in the most wasteful and inefficient method possible. Well, I will never argue against that.
Now that would be fun , when the power goes down get to the gates of the NSA place in Utah and start sniping the employes as they leave the compound as no help will come for them you could be there for days having fun.
This ^^^^^^^ chilling stuff from NEO 3 days ago
http://journal-neo.org/2015/11/04/cameron-establishes-total-control-over...
I am not a Bible-Thumper, but I think War pleases His Satanic Majesty.
Then, that Evil infects those strung out on greed and power. Eventually, Presto! A giant war.
Banzai needs to do a Heath Ledger Joker photo with the caption "Why So Inevitable?"
You put your finger on the problem Gaius, they never come out of their rich bubble, where all people think alike and benefit alike from military spending. Outside that bubble the world has no interest in their empire!
Super Strypi rocket disintegration two days ago proves that
https://twitter.com/ScottsHumor
Don't kid yourself......Avoid was never an option
SOP for the jews..........Balfour bitchezzzz
Balfour Declaration Letter:
Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917
Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.
His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours sincerely,
Arthur James Balfour
The Israel Deception
As the descendant of Brits, I used to rationalize that Britain did this so that the Zionists would just quietly leave London. That didn't work out, did it.
Interesting that wherever the parasites occupy, the country is destroyed through a combination of war and debt. Looks like the US far along on that path.
do not let the psychopaths occupy ANY decision-making position in your country and society or they will usurp all and every power and enable other psychopaths to follow in their wake
In order to do that, you have to keep the fucking jews out.
Interview with Harold Wallace Rosenthal.
Who was taken out by Mossad later.
"We Jews continue to be amazed with the ease by which Christian Americans have fallen into our hands. While the naive Americans wait for Khrushchev to bury them, we have taught them to submit to our every demand." Asked how a nation could be captured without their knowing it, Mr. Rosenthal attributed this victory to absolute control of the media. He boasted of Jewish control of ALL NEWS. Any newspaper which refused to acquewsce to controlled news was brought to its knees by withdrawing advertising. Failing in this, the Jews stop the supply of news print and ink. "It's a very simple matter," he stated. Asked about men in high political office, Mr Rosenthal said that no one in the last three decades has achieved any political power without Jewish approval. "Americns have not had a presidential choice since 1932.
http://www.rense.com/general66/rosen.htm
In order to do that, you have to keep the fucking jews out.
Washington is crawling with them, and they are the war drivers. We let them rule us and do nothing about it. Neocon is another name for Jew.
Thanks Jack, always like your comments, always read them, but I don't do other names or things like that, a spade is a spade kind of thing.
They even refer to themselves as 'We Jews' although neocon means they a colonizing you, it is not the case, they run terrorist USSA, a far cry from colonialism.
The psychos have managed to worm their way into every social, cultural, political, medical, etc., institution and eat at the structure like termites.
Eventually they will have to be identified and kicked out the door or they entire system will collapse with nothing functional in its place.
Kicked out the door? Is that a euphemism for shot? Or guillotined? Or hanged?
We can hope.
Fumigation since they're parasites, street rats, and assorted other vermin.
No, no, no!
The U.S. is merely causing WWIII.
Preparation has nothing to do with it. These milquetoasts couldn't be any less prepared.
Cavernous underground facitilies with stores and troops to survive at least a generation no matter how great the devastation above, yeah, they got nothing on us.
Once the leadership is mentally vacated and the military officers too docile to protest insane top level actions, the material is of no consequence.
I always assessed 9-11 as an all-or-nothing throw of the dice. You would have to be absolutely crazy to do that.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/02/09/166/
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/20/lebowski-enlightenment-7/
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/09/15/measures-of-propagandas-ef...
I think there is an even bigger 911 on the way, false flags are the only way they know how to get the political system to move. The first WTC, OKC, 911 was a progression.
These people need a war to take the next increment in power. If they get that increment in power, there will be gulags in America, as these are not good people.
Way past time to get excited. Where are our military elders? The astonishing thing in this entire situation is that there is NO ONE besides Ron Paul to speak sense. and NO ONE except Jesse Ventura who dealt with 9/11 and the implications.
MSM has extinguished our legitimate and capable leaders and amplifies morons and fools.
We need a new Independance Day, if they think we will put up with another red flag war. Evil Bastards
These people need a war to take the next increment in power. If they get that increment in power, there will be gulags in America
The ground work is already layed. The Patriot Act makes legal a NAZI style repression, it would all be legal under US law!
But think of the nice GDP boost for all those DHS jobs at the FEMA internment camps while International Harvester can design and over-sell huge numbers of pit-digging machines for the subsequent output.
these people are fucking nutz.
Russia and China will simply cut all the transatlantic and transpacific data and communications cables and isolate the Western Hemisphere-letting the USA stew in its own juices-if the USA continues to conduct itself as a world liability.
The utility of war as a world economic engine -as it has been for 1000's of years-has ground to a halt. The warmongers no longer control the narrative-which even if they are in the right concerning a specific issue-doesn't matter. The USA simply cannot prevail in a Eurasian War -regardless of what the sociopsychopaths are trying to sell Congress-without nukes-and of such scale that it will render life on earth irrelevant
The demographics are now such that there is plenty of opportunity simply feeding, clothing, sheltering, and providing medical care to one another, to drive the world.
None of those activities however demands massive central governments with massive weapons systems and fleets commanding regional and national economies.
All those activities are very local, simple and inexpensive. The technological challenge is one of efficiency.
The mindset that drove the 19th-20th centuries has become the single greatest liability to the 21st century
"no one was able to figure out how to avoid it"
WW2 was planned.
Financial support for the Nazis from the Wall Street corporations and banks
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/
Pearl Harbour and what happened afterwards (long but very informative presentation)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc1OPOeGvlQ
What we have to do, is make it very clear to these psychopaths, that we will not let them risk our planet for some bullshit "strategy".
And that people with nothing to lose, suddenly become very dangerous.
Of course the russians, chinese will launch! What do these idiots think, that it's another game, like in Iraq?
insanity is very infectious. so much so as to become
the norm, and in desperate times, law.
This is all bullshit to keep the MIC money flowing. For fuck's sake.
Nothing else makes sense. People do not want this.
Ain't none of it happening unless a banker is making a profit. The MIC only thinks they are in charge and so do you.
Not money, they create it and have all they need. It's about power and control. They are trying to consolidate power and control.
You were warned about standing armies. Now eat for peas.
Yeah, but I think for different reasons. I think that the Founding Fathers had paid attention to how Rome had transitioned from republic to empire. The change happened, in part, due to the distances and scopes of the campaigns that the legions went on. It got to the point where they could no longer do the whole farmer-soldier thing and went to a straight up professional military. Many of the legionaries were not property holders when it got to that point. On these long campaigns, a good commander would take care of the legionaries, and they would often wind up with property. Eventually, it got to the point where the legionaries were more loyal to their commanders than they were to Rome because their commanders took care of them in ways that are not allowed today. And the Republic turned into an empire.
We're doing something different. A lot of our soldiers are loyal to some idea of America. What our military is now is a hammer looking for a nail. Or at least, that is how it is being used. Don't get me wrong, it is no better than what happened in Rome, and if it leads to nuclear war, it will prove to be much, much worse, but it is, none the less, different. If we get through this, we'll have yet another reason to be leery of standing armies.
We civilians have blown it. Nothing the military can do about it.
Roman civilians blew it too. Hence the Roman Empire.
"Many of the legionaries were not property holders when it got to that point."
Indeed! The rank and file only got land when they retired. Non Romans became citizens when they retired as well. Many settled in the conquered lands, like Britain and Gaul.
The Syrian conflict could be deescalated tomorrow.
Americans have absolutely no appetite for more war.
Yeah, "Americans have absolutely no appetite for more war," EXCEPT all those Americans who put their hands on their hearts at the start of every sports event while league-sponsored soldiers sing the national anthem, AND those whose jobs depend on MIC contracts because the real productive economy is gutted, AND all those who are still in complete denial, clinging to authorized propaganda like worshippers in a religious cult. But you're right in the sense that open minds are reaching a critical mass. The victors in future war will be those who work together to dispel Big Lies.
OT, but just read where the DoD was/is paying sports teams to honor soldiers at these sporting events. It was posted on rense.com yesterday for anyone wanting to read the article.
"AND those whose jobs depend on MIC contracts"
Yes, at High School reunions I talk to all the engineers who live off of the MIC, they live in a bubble world of high pay and benefits, they talk about weapons like we talk about our kids.
Paul Craig Roberts is passionate about all the crap that's our foreign policy and his comments on the economy are spot-on. Maybe it's the Alex Jones effect.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/05/pcr-interviewed-by-alex-jones...
Alex Jones is another controlled opposition "lightening" rod shill. He took down the only interview he ever did with someone who put names to the illusory "globalists" Jones is always blabbering about. It ain't some vaguely defined "globalists", or lizard people or fucking time traveling space gypsies.
No, it's one very specific group and it's the one you're not legally allowed to even mention in 90% of the world.
I disagree, sorry.
AJ puts out enough information for you to make the connection. If he was too blatant, he'd be in Gitmo fighting off horny goat-fuckers.
His fault is over-sensalization.
Wrong. Jones merely repeats what he learned from the militia who stopped the Blood Games in Montana in '96, except for his quarterly proclamations of total gloom and doom. He is out front because they had no other choice, and the truth has been banging - and "they" have been snooping it - on the Internet and over the tapped phone lines since day one. AJ is a pied-pipper zionista shill, consider yourself tagged, not that that's a bad thing.
There are only two conditions under which the US might go to war.
A. The government is controlled by moronic sociopaths who can neither tell the difference between right and wrong nor do what is right for the people and the country.
B. Those in power are possessed by demons who want to destroy the human race.
Right now, the odds are about 50/50.
Based on A, we're doomed. For those of us who believe in supernatural forces (good/evil, God or Satan), B also indicates we're doomed.
It was nice while it lasted.
You sound like someone who actually might have believed that they would life forever. Sorry to disappoint but we all die. We've always been "doomed" in this life. See it. Accept it. Liberate your mind with it.
It was not that long ago that there was the Spanish Inquisition and Aztecs performed human sacrifices to Huitzilopochtli (among others).
People have not changed much in 400+ years. Governments still do some fucked up stuff. So yes, I will take one from column A (people must be forced to tell the truth), and one from column B (there must be sacrifice).
I think the answer you are looking for is, "yes".
There's also a C: the governments of the world are controlled by hyperdimensional alien races that get their 'food' by feasting on negative human emotions/death; and to even be in a place of power, you have to be a psychopath willing to carry out your orders, which include causing as much misery and pain as possible...generation after generation.
William Bramley. Karla Turner. John Keel. Laura Knight-Jadzyck. Richard Dolan. David Icke. Cameron Day. John Lamb Lash. Laura Walker. Whitley Streiber. Jaques Valley. Too much good literature and references to ignore.
Some of those people's ideas are kind of childish. For example, blaming humans penchant for war on aliens is silly. Many among us thrive on struggle. My ancestors warred for a living. It is human nature. If you have ever held and ax and not considered the damage, fired a gun and not imagined an enemy, thrown a stick and not felt a spear then you have surely progressed beyond most and to your imminent danger.
Thou shalt not murder.
Fuck you are a know-nothing. Got anything of your own to contribute, or just reflexive contrarianism?
I think A and B have been fulfilled.
Those in power are evil indeed and hold dual citizenships with a particular small mid east nation. They want to destroy the white race, not this so-called "human race" you speak of (which doesn't exist).
"B" is just a religious way of decribing "A"
In my opinion, doing away with the draft some 40 years ago was a big mistake. (Okay, I got drafted - joined the USAF forthwith because they were drafting into the Marines back then - and just want others to suffer the same fate. But other than that...)
If we had a draft and drafted rather than recruited our soldiers and sailors, we would have a populace that was much more resistant to imperialist adventurism. Parents like me, who remember the turmoil of the Vietnam era because of the war and draft, would be reluctant to see their sons, daughters, and even grandchildren sacrificed for no worthy purpose. With a professional army it's too easy for most Americans to simply say about the current soldiers "Well, they knew what they were getting into." It won't be until the hardships hit home that most will care. The US is already effectively bankrupt; paying for a major conflict will really cause pain. I recall my parents describing the rationing required during WW II when the US had a thriving manufacturing base. I wonder how most of the US population would do under those conditions.
There aren't many American resources left to mobilize. Pray for peace.
I have read elsewhere that drafting people is also a problem. Not only do they get many people who don't want to be there and create problems for the trainers but modern weaponry is rather complex, and can't be learned so quickly. So that's a bit of a dampener and therefore most forces these days are volunteers who sign up for longer than the draft could be. Not enlisting would be a good idea, or stay overweight.
Not too much is in the public eye about the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation but they do have a defence component, because its members have never subscribed to the view that America wants peace.
The forces in Europe, Germany in particular, should not be counted on. The population mix in Germany is changing; in one-son families no reason is good enough for war and judging from German language comments the appetite to lay your life on the line for US hegemony is no longer there because the situation in the US is no longer seen as a model to be admired and mimicked. .
You forget they are relying on the shitty economy that enables them to use vollunteer drafts. It's just semantics. I've known many young people with wife & kids that HAD to join or be poor.
A high-school friend was drafted in 1970 and was a door gunner in a Huey chopper. An enemy bullet quickly got him in his "rear orifice" which changed his life in several ways. A draft would once again cause mass rioting. We won't see it again. If it gets that bad were doomed anyway.
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There's only one way to stop this inevitable march towards global nuclear conflagration - Revolution. But, hang on, look at the TV, isn't that the Kardashia.......
"Hitler will have his war. Whether he wants it or not" - Winston Churchill
Even ignoring the possibility of nuclear war, we cannot allow war, especially with China. After all, the supply of iPhones would dry up and we wouldn't be able to constantly send messages to our bffs...gotta let them know what we think about those Kardashian gals, now, don't we?
Actually, that was said by novelist Emil Ludwig Cohen, not Winston Churchill.
Many of the famous "quotes" uttered by politicians came from writers (speech writers).
This is how they want to take care of the population.... All leaders start a nuclear war and hide underground while everyone else gets annihilated above ground. They dont want so many people in my opinion.
> A non-nuclear war with China or Russia would mean the restoration of the draft and bring the human cost of war home to every family in America.
LOL on a new draft because the under 30's in America today do not hold a candle in toughness and being in shape as the drafted Americana from Vietnam, Korea, WW2 so the elite will be fucked which is good ;-)
Draft Malia. Draft Sasha. Heck, draft Chelsea.
If Ted Williams, Willie Mays and Elvis served, so could they.
Heh. Their "service" was a joke. You really think Elvis was ever allowed to go near real enemy fire? Imagine the furor if a celebrity got nailed. It's as much a joke as the British royals "serving."
Dude, a world altering shitstorm like US vs Russia/China would require every swinging dick under 40 to be ready to serve. Vietnam was a glorified camping trip in the jungle compared to the big kahuna that is coming. Proxy wars are good like that, they allow you to use up your less desirables while leaving the college types untouched. Unfortunately, a real fight for our very survival means nobody gives a shit if you're 40 pounds overweight and smoked weed a few times. You'll lose weight in combat and there aint no weed where you're going...
The U.S. only "used up" a measly 60,000 "undesirables" in 'Nam. Hardly a drop in the bucket when compared to a population of a couple hundred million people.
As Margret Sanger might have said "abortion took care of the rest."
Yeah. During Vietnam my Dad (WW2) told me boy, if you can walk, they'll take you.
So, I suggest wheel chairs.
I suggest 2,000 calorie sandwiches and SegwaysTM.
Under 40s? The Ukrainian putsch "government" is drafting over 65s, as we speak. You'll fight if you're still above ground, if it "comes to that".
WW3 will be done with a joystick and buttons anyway.
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I am challenging OUR U.S.A military personnel and man of courage storm the white house and pentagon and smoke these sick narcissistic psychopaths!!!!!!!!!
Next state of the union address...with everyone present and televised on national tv.
War is the final step of FILED POLITICS. What Washington is Really saying; "We're Idiots and we have failed the nation/world.
Just sit back and watch the snake eat it's own tail.
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Just wipe DC and the zios... and the crazies in the military...with extreme prejudice
Dont ask questions if ya aint ready for the answer.
There is no civil war in Syria and never was. It was western instigated attempt for the regime change using as a spark legitimate grievances of Syrian peoples demanding abandonment of the Assad’s neoliberal economic policies that caused collapse of high standard of living and lack of decent jobs for young generation.
Now, it is purely a war of aggression of US, EU and Gulf states via their proxies dominated almost exclusively by foreign fighters, against Syrian people, aimed to wiping out Syrian state from the map of Middle East. And that’s what draws millions of Syrian Sunni, Shia, Christians, Alawites etc., to Assad, not as much love or reverence but true love to their country.
While Carter’s partially correct on the Assad failures, his ideas are still US-centric aim to cover up utter failure of diplomatic, political and military efforts of the US regime that as a result of this should disappear as a dominant political player in the Middle East. And hence carter’s plan is doomed to failure since it was concocted in a desperate and ultimately futile attempt “snatch victory from jaws of defeat” as we re are observing for over four years now.
More info and analysis of Syrian war can be found at:
https://contrarianopinion.wordpress.com/syrian-war-update/
After all that typing you forgot the main issue: the U.S. needs a pro western puppet government in Syria to run a gas pipeline from Quatar into Europe and CIRCUMVENT GAZPROM and Russia's man source of revenue. Afterwards, when Russians start rioting the U.S. will attempt to topple the Russian government. Same M.O., just rinse and repeat.
Yes. A pipeline and ....
Murder and destruction is of no concern when it comes to saving a piece of fucking paper.
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Actually, I rule the elite, but they have yet to figure that out. Moreover, WW3 is inevitable, but it ain't going to end like the American bureaucrats think it will. Go ahead and make my day, NATO, you amoeba brained jarheads.
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