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Defense Secretary Suggests Putin Might Nuke America, Says US Will "Defend International Order"

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Defense Secretary Ash Carter is a funny guy. We’re not out to disparage him personally (although we’ll happily disparage Washington’s foreign policy for which he is partially responsible), but he sure does have an uncanny ability to land himself in situations that end up generating amusing photo ops. Here are just two examples from last week: 

"Show me some love"...

"Just listening to Kenny Loggins in my headphones with my water bottle and yeah, since you asked, that's my aircraft carrier down there"...

Of course to be fair to Carter, Washington hasn't exactly put him in a good position. After all, what the US is doing in Syria is deplorable and with the passing of MANPADS and anti-tank missiles to Sunni extremists near Aleppo, the whole "strategy" now borders on the bizarre, especially in light of what happened over the Sinai Peninsula last weekend and also taking into account Washington's relationship with Siite militias battling ISIS in Iraq. 

Meanwhile, the situation in the South China Sea is just downright silly, as Washington and Beijing risk starting World War III over 3,000 acres of sand that Beijing piled on top of reefs in the Spratlys. 

Still, when you're the face of The Pentagon, you've got to champion the narrative and that narrative now revolves around two things, i) a resurgent Russia, and ii) the rise of China. 

Put simply (and colloquially), more than one US military strategist believes the US and NATO would be "annihilated" in a Baltic battle with the Russians and when it comes to China, well, getting into a maritime dispute in the South Pacific (which is the right way to analyze this by the way, because it's not like Beijing is going to sail into San Francisco and invade the US mainland) might be a horrible idea:

So, against that backdrop, and with Russia's dramatic intervention in Syria in mind, Ash gave a keynote speech during the annual Reagan National Defense Forum in southern California, on Saturday. 

Below, we present the "highlights" as documented by the DoD and the video clip courtesy of AP. Enjoy your Sunday evening US foreign policy briefing and please do note that Carter suggests Putin wants to nuke America:

“In the face of Russia’s provocations and China’s rise,” Carter said, “we must embrace innovative approaches to protect the United States and strengthen that international order.”

 

Russia is violating sovereignty in Ukraine and Georgia and is trying to intimidate the Baltic states, and in Syria it is prolonging a civil war, the secretary added.

 

“At sea, in the air, in space and in cyberspace, Russian actors have engaged in challenging activities,” he told the audience, noting that Moscow’s nuclear saber-rattling raises questions about Russian leaders’ commitment to strategic stability.

 

“We do not seek to make Russia an enemy,”Carter said. “But make no mistake. The United States will defend our interests, and our allies, the principled international order, and the positive future it affords us all.”

 

Carter said the United States is modernizing its nuclear arsenal to ensure America’s nuclear deterrent, investing in new unmanned systems, a new long-range bomber, and innovation in technologies like the electromagnetic rail gun, lasers and new systems for electronic warfare, space, cyberspace, and others.

 

“And we’re accordingly transforming our posture in Europe to be more agile and sustainable,” the secretary said.

 

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Mon, 11/09/2015 - 02:58 | 6766458 Victor999
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And it hates all non-Jews.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 22:39 | 6765939 harrybrown
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I note ash carter says "we will defend allies and international order".... err didnt he mean "international law"?
No... he meant what he said, cos this is about New World Order, not law or anything else.

As a Brit, I'm shoulder to shoulder with American men women & children, same for russia, china & the rest of Erope & the non zionist world.
But Israel & the zionist banksters & their political puppets, well ill happily see all wiped from the face of the earth in brutal fashion...God help them.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 22:39 | 6765945 HowardBeale
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Everyone assumes "things will work out. They always have."

The U.S. oligarchs' sadism has become intolerable; it is a planet killer. Not all countries are owned by ignornat silver-spoon religious zealot psychopaths: China actually graduates more PhD engineers every term than the U.S. has produced since 1900. Think that bank of brain power is going to sit by and let third-world morons (U.S. politicians and their owners) strike first?

 

Things are not always going to work out...

Hope for proximity to strike zone: better to burn out than to fade away--oh so fucking painfully.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 22:44 | 6765955 harrybrown
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to Chritianity saved & restored back to peace & prosperity (no usury)

to see Zionist communism scrubbed off the earth

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 22:49 | 6765968 The Old Man
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Putin didn't go to Harvard. Putin grew up through hard knocks in the KGB. 

The rule of thumb for Putin is get there before anyone else does. And provoke, test the envelope. By any means possible. 

Putin is not a person without fear. He is part of a people with dynamics, strength and resolution. That makes him strong.

I don't think we actually get that philosophy. Besides, I think it's about time we started looking out for us as a people, as a whole, as what we used to call The United States of America. 

Nobody else is. Including Harvard Graduates.

Where have we gone?

The Old Man

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 02:54 | 6766454 Victor999
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On one level you sold out to Wall Street and the FED.  On a higher level you sold your country to the World Zionist Organisation. 

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 23:01 | 6766003 HoserF16
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1st Casualty of any war is truth. You're free to assume, US Government Officials are Lying.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 23:04 | 6766006 Taras Bulba
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duplicate

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 23:03 | 6766007 Taras Bulba
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Strategic stability=US hegemony, ie the us rules the world and any tension on this concept anywhere is a "challenge."

Jeez, it is long past time that we get rid of these dionsars in foreign policy: brezinski, kagans, AEI, NATO, on, and on.

Yeah, that will happen-need to keep feeding the beast.

 

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 23:25 | 6766028 pupdog1
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Ash Carter is the aluminium siding salesman (tin man) for the Military Industrial Complex.

He has no answers for Rooshian/Iranian Mach 10 anti-ship missles and Rooshian electronic warfare magic, so he wants to piss our money down the next useless trillion dollar corporate fucking welfare rat canyon, seeing as how the F-turdy-five and Littoral Crapper Ships are well along.

 

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 23:24 | 6766046 NoWayJose
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Why would Putin waste good nukes on the U.S.? Another year of Obama should be enough to finish off the U.S.!

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 23:37 | 6766093 PoasterToaster
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Whether it's Jeb or Hillary next year, same thing as Obama.  No need to do anything but to wait for the United States Soviet Federation to tear itself to peices.  Putin just need to stock up on popcorn.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 23:36 | 6766087 PoasterToaster
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There's an international order?  Only tin foil kooks believe in that, right?

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 23:51 | 6766137 dogismycopilot
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He is an Ashhole. Seriously, the US sanctions Russia, tees up Ukraine, has NATO spreading like herpes and he has the chutzpah to call Russia "Aggressive". He is living in the past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Carter

In addition to authoring numerous articles, scientific publications, government studies, and Congressional testimonies, Carter co-edited and co-authored 11 books:

  • MX Missile Basing (1981)
  • Ballistic Missile Defense (1984)
  • Directed Energy Missile Defense in Space (1984)
  • Ballistic Missile Defense (1984)
  • Managing Nuclear Operations (1987)
  • Soviet Nuclear Fission: Control of the Nuclear Arsenal in a Disintegrating Soviet Union (1991)
  • Beyond Spinoff: Military and Commercial Technologies in a Changing World (1992)
  • A New Concept of Cooperative Security (1992)
  • Cooperative Denuclearization: From Pledges to Deeds (1993)
  • Preventive Defense: A New Security Strategy for America (1997)
  • Keeping the Edge: Managing Defense for the Future (2001)
Sun, 11/08/2015 - 23:57 | 6766157 agNau
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Offense Secretary. Fixed.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:02 | 6766166 Atomizer
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It doesn't get any better. This goes back in time before they were encouraged to concentrate on freeshit. 

Warmonger Replaces Warmonger With Warmonger - YouTube

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:08 | 6766180 icey4826
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbZDyr2LkdI 

very good video on what Putin knows/thinks

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:09 | 6766182 Jack Oliver
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We antagonised some folks !

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:11 | 6766186 Bay Area Guy
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Did he happen to work for a defense firm before his installation as Secty of Defense?

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 02:17 | 6766415 Barrack Chavez
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Even though he thinks that is "his" aircraft carrier, he is actually an employee of the US taxpayer right now. Maybe he should act like an employee.

Last I checked, stealing property from one's employer is a no no. Somebody tell Ash Carter.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:28 | 6766221 onmail1
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"Russia is violating sovereignty in Ukraine and Georgia"

And what is Satan America doing in Libya, Iraq, Syria etc. (wtf Vietnam). American politicians should be hanged in public for war crimes all over the world.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:30 | 6766224 Itsthetiming
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Knock off the bull.

It's got nothing to do with bankers or psychopaths, this is real world. China unchecked is an obvious result, stop acting like they are building resorts on those islands.

China and Russia have choices and so do we.

Grow up and understand what is happening and stop trying to forget 10,000 years of history which isn't about mad men, it's about resources, power and human nature.

We'd be really screwed if some of you pussies were in control of the military. I am no advocate for war, but recognize when it is in long term survival appropriate.

While China is making a supersonic missle USA technology has left that junk behind 15 years ago. What a war looks like today isn't the same as what it is in the textbooks.

War is won before the first exchange takes place, so why not look a little deeper and see what has already happened to ensure a USA victory.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 01:02 | 6766284 shovelhead
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Jeez.

Kinda pushy for someone who isn't saying anything.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 01:12 | 6766304 Bach's_bitch
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China unchecked is an obvious result, stop acting like they are building resorts on those islands.

USA telling China what to do on those islands is not a sign of *China* being "unchecked".

 

Grow up and understand what is happening and stop trying to forget 10,000 years of history which isn't about mad men, it's about resources, power and human nature.

The latter and the former are not mutually exclusive. Lust, greed and necessity maddens men who in contentment are happy to be relatively sane.

 

While China is making a supersonic missle USA technology has left that junk behind 15 years ago. What a war looks like today isn't the same as what it is in the textbooks.

And evidently you have obviously neither looked at war nor read about it very much. That "junk", in sufficient quantities, can be a dire weapon. The real determinants of war, as always, are population and economy. The China has the USA beat on those counts I'm afraid. If you think it is the US's business to "check" China, then go ahead and join the army. Remember to take your family with you as well!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:34 | 6766557 dreadnaught
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He probably hasnt a clue in the world as to what JANES is, to use as research

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 02:03 | 6766390 dogismycopilot
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So what your saying is we should let the high priests of war "Brainiacs" they are continue to keep "winning" like they are in the Middle East and defending Fortress Europe from Invasion of ISIS (aka "Refugees")?

Mate, when you find yourself in a hole, the first rule is "quit digging".

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 04:36 | 6766521 shutterbug
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ROFL Just another celebrity hooked USA governmental induced troll.

War is a long term survival appropiate issue....??!
Missiles are the only weapons which will reach the other side of the world... But you must be thinking about fairy dust as USA weapons.

People like you are why humanity will doom itselve. You have no fucking clue what it is to live a good life without needing to play bully or wanting to dominate others.

The USA people have indeed 1 choice ... do what your kind wants or revolt and put your kind away below the ground.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:33 | 6766556 dreadnaught
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China deserves to defend itself, fuckface!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 01:00 | 6766276 Fed_is_Love
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They want Russia to follow America's bad foreign policy.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 01:11 | 6766310 Joe A
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Defending the international financial and monetary order. There fixed it for you.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 01:29 | 6766344 Bopper09
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Hear that Putin?  U.S. is going to blame you for the next false flag nuclear attack in Chicago. 

Well, it's not like a global depopulation plan should come as a big surprise to us.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 02:06 | 6766395 laomei
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quality over quantity for one, and when it comes to force projection and mobilization, china is an absolute and total joke.  Russia is also rather pathetic at present.  They can handle small missions but that's about it.

 

http://europe.newsweek.com/fifth-russian-air-force-crash-month-kills-two...

 

Call me up when Russia or China have military bases spanning the globe and can strike or surveil any location on the planet at will in an hour or so... while maintaining OPSEC and not even being detected until after the fact if even then.

 

Oh wait, they can't?  What's that? Their newest toys are pale imitations of US innovation and they couldn't design a weapons system from the ground up if they had to?  Well... at least one that actually worked. 

 

Here's how the Chinese military works:  When students take their gaoako exams, they must be willing to go to military schools, see what I say here? You don't really get a choice of schools or majors in China, you get what you get and that's that.  If the government decides that you fit the profile to be an officer, then that's where you will go.  But, not to worry, there are ample numbers of people who will apply for those spots anyways.  And by apply, that means that they have to go through a series of tests, and bribe someone to get in.  In China, the military is seen as an easy way out of poverty.  It's a make work program that gives a pension, stable income, free housing, as such, recruiters demand bribes to fake those test results.  The test faking doesn't just stop there, most of them can't shoot worth shit, but not to worry, they will routinely fake their target practice.  Promotions all require bribes and many will gladly pay up as it means more pay and perks.  It was never intended to be an actual fighting force, it's all for show.  You see a fancy parade (with fake soldiers poorly) carrying flashy weapons, but the rank and file still has garbage for gear.  The official policy is that if they get good equipment they'll be "lazy".  The notion of force multipliers is lost on them entirely.

 

The thing is that by and large, their military is made up of moronic farmers whose families borrowed money to pay the bribes to give their useless kids who couldnt do anything else a stable life.  You see this in their off-duty behavior all the time, not just them of course, but their relatives as well.  Their assigned family residence is rented out for some extra cash, more than happy to steal gas from the base and sell it, their official cars ignore any and all laws to the point where if they crash into you they will just leave and there is no recourse.  They'll demand and get free-cuts at all hospitals for any excuse, not just them of course, but all relatives.  They get their free car as well, which while intended for official purposes becomes "whatever".  There is a mentality of "I paid my money so I'll do whatever the hell I want".  You see this at most official positions in China, same shit mentality.  As such, they are entirely unfit for any actual duty.  They are soft, oh so soft.  The amount spent training them is virtually nil.  The main difference in forces is that US military frequently adapts gear and systems, finding new ways to use shit which leads to innovation and advances.  China.... not so much.  Ask them how they would improve a system and there's zero input.  Independent thought and problem solving is simply not a part of Chinese culture.

 

Now... as for Russia... at least they have a military tradition, but their economy is shit and they can barely afford to defend their own territory much less project in any meaningful way.

 

This post will be downvoted into oblivion as the average commenter on this site falls into 2 camps.  Those cheering on the fall of the US and propaganda trolls.  The handful who bother to comment on this site who are actually in a position to know anything tend to be the later.  I am not disclosing anything new or controversial here, this is all well established and documented reality, very inconvenient for the trolls though.  Been on the other side, I know how this works, so downvote away, it's a sign on this site that you said something the trolls hate.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 02:43 | 6766444 Victor999
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I know how this works, so downvote away, it's a sign on this site that you said something the trolls hate.

My pleasure.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 03:02 | 6766461 Johnny Horscaulk
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I downvoted you for not knowing what youre talking about as to Russian military tech then declaring the only types of people who could ever possibly downvote your ignorant missive.

Fuck you.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:31 | 6766554 dreadnaught
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the stupid usually love to rationalize-THEY are not stupid-EVERYONE ELSE IS!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 03:47 | 6766492 Jack Oliver
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Your Bulllshit is too long - No one reads the SHIT !

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:30 | 6766551 dreadnaught
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youre using proven liar MSM as your sources? REALLY?! no wonder you get downvoted-despite your stoopid(sic) rationalizations for it...how can you be so GODAMN DUMB?!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 07:13 | 6766631 damicol
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You really are one fucking half wit aren't you.

I bet even your 6 yr old boyfriend can't feel the difference when you get a stalk on, you fucking shit for brains

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 10:06 | 6767058 dizzyfingers
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Been to China on business. Not relating to military or anything that would have let me judge anything you say, but some things we observed just at our hotel, in "department stores", and around the cities suggest that the system in China has to be what you say. Haven't been to Russia, but it's a big country whose small caucasian (Christian) population is scared of being over-run. Same demographic problems as the whole west has, only they see it coming, we don't.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 02:06 | 6766397 lakecity55
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(Roysters News)

SecDef Sez a Nuke War Would be Good

"Secdef Ass Carter thinks a domestic nuclear explosion would be just the ticket for an ailing economy.

"There is a lot of damage and death at first, but things can turn around quickly," he said at a Rand Corp meeting.
"Think of the thousands of jobs we'd have rebuilding the country's infrastructure."

"To date, the Secdef has no timetable for the nuclear proposal, but added after the conference, "It's on the table, it's something we have to consider."

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:27 | 6766550 dreadnaught
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well, the trick is, ya gotta wait months for the fires to burn out-and then there is this thing called multi year nuke fallout

what? ashhole, did you think after a week all would be better?

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 10:08 | 6767072 dizzyfingers
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That sounds like he's suggesting it be arranged. Maybe it is, and that's the go signal.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 03:59 | 6766499 Johnny Horscaulk
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Yes if America threatens Russia in a serious manner Russia would be forced to use nukes.

So perhaps it should reconsider its decades-long drive to weaken and destabilize Russia to benefit The One Bank?

But you may rest assured that Zionists crave little more than mostly white christians fighting mostly white christians.

And that if a nuke or dirty bomb goes off in the US - Israel will have done it.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:10 | 6766539 forputin
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West and US is weak because it has not threaten Russia to use nukes. Ha ha ha but we russians just like North Korea threaten them all the time! That is good! So good!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:25 | 6766548 dreadnaught
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u got a good job at the CIA?

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 02:14 | 6766412 Barrack Chavez
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To: Public employee Ash Carter
From: US taxpayers, aka your bosses

Listen up public employee:

That aircraft carrier belongs to your employer, the US taxpayer. You are just an employee.

Fix your crappy attitude, start acting like a team player, or go find a job somewhere else.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 02:38 | 6766439 MEAN BUSINESS
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Shabby dresser and shabby speaker. Where'd they get this guy? /facepalm.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 02:47 | 6766447 honestann
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The neo-con-jobs have exactly one and only one principle: full spectrum dominance - by them.  Period.  They run the planet or they'll nuke the planet.

The predators-DBA-USSA is the primary terrorist government.  To be sure, its "allies" go along with the scam, some enthusiastically (UK) and many others because they don't know what else they can do [being part of NATO].  Of course the correct answer is... they should drop out of NATO, but that would take guts, balls, and a willingness to do without under-the-table payoffs.

Russia has no interest in military domination.  China has no interest in military domination.  Both know the better way to dominate is via production and trade... Russia by shipping raw materials they have in abundance, and China by letting their billions of hands assemble products.

The USSA wants to dominate via printing worthless fiat, fake, fraud, fiction, fantasy, fractional-reserve debt-slavery notes (and bits), plus overthrow governments to install stooges and central banks that do their bidding (keep the US dollar reserve currency).  Only non-observant and/or utterly brainwashed humans can be unaware of this by now.

Yup, the world is being forced down the toilet by predators-DBA-government.  Mostly the USSA federal government, but also their primary allies (UK, EU, AU, CA).  Since the population of the USSA is now primarily clueless, low-skill, brainwashed sheeple, with a small and ever-dwindling population of old folks, some of whom have a clue, and skills, and intellectual independence, the population of the USSA is not in a position to "fix the nation".

Well, they could, but they won't - they are far radically incapable of collaboration, which is necessary for any effective resistance or revolution.

Which leaves the neo-con-job and central-bankster predators-that-be free to destroy the people in their own fictitious nation, and free to cause the kind of ultimate worldwide disaster the neo-con-jobs dream of every night.

What a planet.  What a continent of losers (in all senses).

Which is my advice to the few honest, ethical, productive, benevolent folks who remain alert, insightful and non-self-destructive is always "get the hell outta dodge" while you still can.  Time grows short... very short.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 03:54 | 6766478 Johnny Horscaulk
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Funny how zionist Jews seem to have very disproportionate political, financial and media power in the us, uk, and france where they just managed to criminalize boycotting Israel, and canada where they are working very hard to criminalize any criticism of Israel.

Funny how ISIS never attacked Israeli or Jewish interests for PR points.

Funny how a country of 6 million jews so dominates the news and political speechifying of an empire of 320 million which is 97.5% not jewish, and where Evangelicals are outnumbered by Catholics alone.

Funny how this coverage never includes the occupation or extrajudicial murders by Jew soldiers and Jew colonists.

Funny how 6 mega corps produce almost all media and 5 are led/managed/owned by Jews. Funny how whether its France or Ukraine or Sweden, Jews are a tiny minority that own a disproportionate share of news and entertainment media.

Funny how Richard Perle could be investigated for spying but end up high in the Bush regime. Funny how dancing israelis and fake israeli art students are quietly released. Funny how Jews were appointed just under Bush and Obama to head dhs, the irs, treasury (including the deputy and ALL 3 undersecs), cftc, commerce, office of management and budget, nat econ council, office of trade rep, the fdic, sec, FED (top two slots, 3 jewish heads in a row) the 9/11 commission, and allowed to set up the office of special plans.

Funny how despite all this, and the fact half or more of political donations are by jews,despite several Israel Firster billionaires and Congressional groveling before the revolting, dissembling Leader of "Israel" -

Despite all this, some people actually think that Zionist Jews have not hijacked the US government, and some actually think it is "hate" to discuss the obvious and wildly disproportionate power of Jews, many of whom are highly ethnocentric and loyal to a foreign state.... But it is not "hate" to worry about the number of 'whites' at top colleges, where, of ourse, Jews are wildly over-represented, without comment, because diversity doesnt apply to them, even as it is Jews in academia largely behind 'white privelege'.

ISIS is the US and Israel remaking the middle east in blood and fire for Greater Israel.

Which would be obvious were you not conditioned to not see/hear/say anything about the role of *international* and organized Zionist Jewry.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:11 | 6766540 forputin
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I see you are working here! Good! That's very good!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:47 | 6766562 bunnyswanson
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Bravo!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 11:34 | 6767493 Anunnaki
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Daesh/ISIS/ISIL don't attack America or Israel b/c they don't want to bite the hand that feeds

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 03:14 | 6766468 PoasterToaster
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The funny thing is that all the warmongering of the last 15 years has worn the US Military down in spirit and strength.  They no longer have enthusiastic recruits and their equipment is aging.  The inventories of weapons are decreasing despite record spending every year.

The Neo Cons are destroying the tool they hope to use to enforce their will.  Maybe this is by design.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 03:26 | 6766480 o r c k
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True that Poaster.  That's why they need something even bigger than 9-11.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 03:51 | 6766494 luckylongshot
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Seems the US cannot cope with anyone who asks to be treated with respect.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 07:08 | 6766629 bunnyswanson
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Know Thy Enemy (or something like that) eh  How much money are these people being paid to lie through their teeth is what I want to know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZZvTZAKgro

How You-Know-Who got da bomb (1 hour documentary)

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 04:08 | 6766506 Paracelsus
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I read a very good book years ago by an Aussie,Geoffrey Robertson QC,called" The

Justice Game".The book covers his years while he was doing his junior training in the

London Courts.One of the points raised I think applies to many countries (and individuals).

That is: a newly elected Gov't is under pressure to look "like they have ticker"and will be less

responsible in the civil rights area due to the fact that they are trying to establish their

macho credentials   with the Security Services.This of course also applies to women.Ms. Albright

in the Balkans,Ms.Glaspie in Iraq,Ms. Clinton in Benghazi,etc.

I always had difficulty with the food for oil program and Ms. Albrights infamous quote that "a hundred

thousand Iraqi children dead was an acceptable price to pay".

Thanks to Wall Street our country is bankrupt and we cannot afford another cold war arms race.

The media is entirely incompetent on the current European refugee crisis.The USA has been very 

effective at blowing the crap out of countries for the last fifty years or more and producing a flood of

refugees for everyones' benefit.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 04:20 | 6766513 talisman
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Defense Secretary needs his meds--BAD

 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 04:24 | 6766517 shutterbug
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Walking Dead have invaded the USA government.

The latest victim is the USA Defense Secretary... be carefull and avoid at all cost without good protection.

W.D. are easily recognized by spouting complete and utter nonense as "protecting international order" "X will nuke us" "war against terrorists" and many more like that.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:22 | 6766524 AllBentOutOfShape
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And by "defend international order", he means to sustain the Zio-American Empire.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 04:37 | 6766525 Yes We Can. But...
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Ash, huh.

Rather have a guy named, say, Leif.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:52 | 6766565 bunnyswanson
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Considering the resources and vast sums of money available to the Monster at bay, it may be these people were created on Wikipedia and after they "pull" their Ponzi scheme, will create new identities and start new lives as Richer than Filth (the missing trillions went somewhere) and living in Dubai or some other Safe City until the smoke clears. 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:10 | 6766538 MFL8240
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Another scare tactic to impliment Patriot Act II, more likely the truth.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:33 | 6766542 wizteknet
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putin is a pussy come on one on one, bruce lee u ass, old man, lets get it mofo, fun, when

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:17 | 6766543 bid the soldier...
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hmm

Carter suggests Putin wants to nuke America:

I wonder why the dick-wad thinks that?

Russia is violating sovereignty in Ukraine and Georgia

What did US/NATO do to Serbia when they extracted Kosovo?  

 

 

trying to intimidate the Baltic states

He's just backing up Macgregor's phony case that there will be fighting in the Baltic Nations.  Only if the US/NATO starts a fight there.

 

Baltics countries, Scandanavian states , and Neutrals will want to quit the WEST before the ballistic missiles start flying.  

 

Missiles for the Ukrainian and Baltic NATO encampments and their capital cities. Thousands for England and the US. 


 

Ashton Carter doesn't like nuclear war.

Moscow’s nuclear saber-rattling raises questions about Russian leaders’ commitment to strategic stability.

So conventional war is okay, but nuclear war isn't.  Ever hear of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Carter?

 

in Syria it is prolonging a civil war

A civil war that the CIA paid to get started .

 

 


Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:37 | 6766545 dreadnaught
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these lying walking talking piles of shit should be 'offed' NOW-firing squad, rope, or guillotine

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:20 | 6770981 bid the soldier...
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Or worse!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:35 | 6766558 cookies anyone
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The retard is strong with this one

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:36 | 6766559 quasi_verbatim
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This man is a realist. If you want big bucks defense budgets, you've got to talk the talk.

His job is to keep the upcoming Russo-Pentagon war non-nuclear, and so keep our popcorn non-radioactive. As for the Chink Spratlys, what's a couple of US destroyers more or less? US shipyards need the replacement work.

A safe pair of hands.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 05:55 | 6766568 sam site
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Why would Putin nuke America when we're going down on our own with no one's help.  That's stupid and doesn't even make sense.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 06:17 | 6766590 smacker
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Putin has no plans to nuke America, but the psychopathic maniacs running Washington, the Pantygon, NATO and CIA want you to believe he does.

That's how they maintain the "climate of fear" across America.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 06:23 | 6766570 nathan1234
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Nuke in the USA !!!!

Oh well it will be falseflag 9/11 all over again.

Instad of O Some Laden last time

It will be this time

Oh some Putin is responsible

93 million Americans out of work !!!!

and No time to think ????

 

 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 06:15 | 6766588 savedeposit
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Putin wil nuke USA only first if a fight is inevatable.

Thast's his strategy "if a fight is inevatable, you should be the one to strike first"

So it is all up to the USA if they are going to be nuked by Russia or not.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 06:36 | 6766603 Maestro Maestro
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Vladimir Putin,

You are a liar and a fraud who is a lackey of the bankers.

If you weren’t,

1) The Russian central bank would not be a treasonous private institution controlled by City of London/Western ruling class interests.

2) Russia would not accept fraudulent (unconstitutional, illegal) and not-even-worthless [because FRNs are not even defined as to exactly what they are worth] US dollars or Euros for Russia’s real and valuable oil and other natural resources, or for its arms sales.

3)Russia would vehemently have denounced the fact that Americans and Europeans are manipulating the price of gold, silver and platinum lower by selling precious metal that they don’t have in fraudulent paper markets only, to the tune of several hundred ounces MORE than each ounce the West actually have available for delivery. [For each ounce of eligible & registered gold in Comex warehouses, the Americans already have sold several hundred ounces on paper.] Like all IMF member countries, Russia acquiesces that it’s forbidden to use gold as money…

Putin,

You’re a fucking traitor to mankind.

If not,

You’d have used fuel-air bombs on Raqqa (the de facto capital of the Islamic State) and exterminated these American agents before they tortured, raped and killed hundreds of thousands of human beings.

You would have hit the oil fields controlled by ISIS which finances their rape, torture and mass murder of human beings in the name of American- and European-aligned interests. You would have denounced and attacked the parties that buy this oil from them and destroyed their oil trade routes.

Putin,

You’re no chess player. You’re a piece of shit bankers' agent.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 06:45 | 6766609 shutterbug
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ROFL

Go back into your Troll cave.
You zombie celebrity addicted USA government indoctrinated Troll.

A real leader doesn't destruct more then he needs to. That is only the USA way of doing things...... your kind.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 06:42 | 6766610 bunnyswanson
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Either Israel is being isolated or Georgia Guidestones will finally be proven to be tombstones for each hemisphere.  Don't forget about Iran old chap.  But, then again, the Hysteria out of Israel could be an off Broadway show.  If history has taught us anything, corraling this herd of Zionist (mostly Jewish or pretending to be) maniacs and minimizing them is what happens next.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 07:49 | 6766667 Lynn Trainor
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And where does Obama fit in to your analysis?

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 10:49 | 6767238 Maestro Maestro
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Reagan, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Hollande, Merkel, Cameron, and Putin, they're all the same. They are errand boys for the bankers.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 07:00 | 6766622 damicol
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The only possible reason I could foresee Putin dropping a nuke on the US is to absolutely ensure beyond all possible doubt that he blows the sick perverted dangerous fucks away, these fucking evil moronic cunts, these murderous stinking fucking bastards off the face of the earth.

As such, please please please, Mr Putin,   nuke that sick fuck just to be sure you get the cunt

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 07:04 | 6766628 Freddie
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A little off topic:

Syria and Russia doing well destroying the headchoppers in Syria

http://syrianperspective.com/2015/11/damascus-terrorist-losses-not-susta...

House of Saud-Fraud loses a fifth ship in Yemen - patrol boat

https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/663364947611488260

Saudis may be begging for peace in Yemen now as they are getting destroyed:
Canthama

November 8th, 2015 at 2:05 PM [Level 10 - Cesar]

Big reversal in Yemen in the past few days for the coalition of idiots (COI), major collapse from their lines all over the country. KSA now is desperate to save face, urging Yemenis to the peace talks in Oman.

https://twitter.com/BaFana3/status/663395811452198912

https://twitter.com/BaFana3/status/663419089868705792

https://twitter.com/BaFana3/status/663399431786598400

Sudanese mercs defending Al Anad critical airbase 60 KMs NW of Aden, those guys will die for KSA or run away ?

https://twitter.com/IraqiSecurity/status/663331043303432192

 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 07:15 | 6766633 JimmyRainbow
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in other news:

first isis short-dicked-fat-fucker found amongst refugees in italy.....

http://www.n-tv.de/politik/IS-Terrorist-tarnt-sich-als-Fluechtling-artic...

tunisian Ben Nasr Mehdi

wonder how long that newsbit will be up

~20% of refugees not accounted for over "green borders"

 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 07:44 | 6766660 Hannibal
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...."Putin Might Nuke America"
Translation: (False flag) nuke attack on America and blame the Russians.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 07:48 | 6766666 Benjamin123
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I saw the video. Carter says no such thing. The usual rethoric, but not what the article claims.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 09:16 | 6766842 Niall Of The Ni...
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No he won't. President Hillary might set a nuke off in Little Rock out of spite and blame it on Putin, but that's all.

The current international order is the problem. Restoring order in the Middle East will require what was required in 2001---régime change in Saudi Arabia and the expropriation of the oil wealth the House of Saud use to fund the spread of Islam by the sword. If Uncle Sugar can't do that, and won't help Putin do it, he needs to get out of the way.

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