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Officials Secretly Added Cancer-Causing Chemicals to City’s Water Supply

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Submitted by Cassius Methyl via TheAnti-Media.org,

In 2013 and 2014, the City of Sacramento performed a water treatment experiment at the expense of residents of the city “to save money,” according to a local news investigation.

Area residents were never informed about the toxic chemical contamination of their water that resulted from the experiment. “Cancer, miscarriages, and birth defects” are the consequences of consuming those chemicals, but the extent to which Sacramento residents are likely to experience these symptoms is not yet known.

City officials allowed the experiment to continue for an entire year despite knowing early on that very process was creating carcinogens. For how long that contamination will be suspended in the water supply is up in the air.

Officials experimented on the water with a new added chemical to aid in removing sediment, silt, and other impurities in the water supply: aluminum chlorohydrate (ACH). It was due to replace the chemical known as ALUM that was regularly used to take the larger particles out of river water to treat it. Both chemicals weigh down the sediment to make it easily removable.

However, the addition of ACH to the city’s water supply wound up being ineffective as a treatment so an excessive quantity of chlorine was added to the water, as well.

An astonishing failure, the combination of excess chlorine and aluminum chlorohydrate ended up yielding carcinogenic toxins known as “DBPs” — disinfection byproducts. Specifically, these are in the class of chemicals known as THMs, or Trihalomethanes.

According to Water Research, THMs are in the same chemical class as chloroform; and, although this water experiment ended about a year ago, the THMs remain in Sacramento’s water supply in levels that exceed EPA regulations. Several readings of THM levels provided to ABC10 exceeded 80 parts per billion, the EPA limit.

The ABC10 investigation says “data showing dozens of readings in excess of the EPA standard of 80 parts-per-billion during the year-long trial. In the Westlake neighborhood, near Sleep Train Arena, during a two-month period between August and October 2013, 11 of 13 readings were above EPA limits. Then in March of 2014, readings were way up across the city. Some people were drinking water with DBP levels above 130 parts-per-billion.”

Sacramento’s Utility Director, Bill Busath, told ABC10 the entire issue had to do with saving money: “There was an expectation that we would be able to save quite a bit of money.”

Bob Bowcock grew up working in the water treatment industry. His description, as reported by ABC10, is telling:

“This community was basically looked at as a laboratory guinea pig, in that they were exposed to violation level trihalomethanes for up to one year without any proper notification whatsoever […] Every corner you turn, on this particular project, it’s red flag, red flag, red flag. It’s like peeling back an onion. There is just another layer. The closer you get to the center, the stronger the smell.”

According to an ABC10 news report:

“Pregnant women and unborn babies, Bowcock said, are especially vulnerable to DBPs. In first trimester pregnancies, there’s a significant rise in miscarriages, and in third trimester there’s evidence of low birth weight,” he said, describing how the DBP-tainted water is even more dangerous when its mists are breathed in while showering or washing dishes.”

This isn’t the only  water contamination that affects greater Sacramento — Northside residents need to be aware that McClellan Air Force Base is rumored to be the source of contaminated water, as a “chromium plume” of groundwater contamination radiates from out from the base.

Our water, in other words, is polluted with cancer-causing chromium-6.

According to a June article from the Sacramento Bee:

“Water from six of 11 wells in the Rio Linda-Elverta district tested above the state’s maximum contaminant levels for chromium-6 […] Wells closest to the former McClellan Air Force Base have the highest levels of hexavalent chromium, or chromium-6, a known carcinogen […] Exposure to chromium-6 can lead to skin irritation, occupational asthma, and kidney and liver damage, according to the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health.”

 

A woman from North Sacramento lamented: “I know [the water] gave me cancer.”

Rio Linda resident, Anna Marie Tomlinson, hasn’t touched her tap water in years — because she was the fourth person on her block to get cancer. “I drank it every day,” she said.

How do we allow officials to blindly add chemicals to our water supply? Unfortunately, most of us probably weren’t even aware the first chemical, ALUM, had been added to our drinking water — much less the insane chemical soup that resulted as a byproduct of this reckless experiment.

 

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Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:33 | 6764336 Joebloinvestor
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People in Calif wonder why their copper pipes are now having problems with "pinhole" leaking.

Wonder no more.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:06 | 6764439 gladius17
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To be fair, if everyone in Sacramento were to die of cancer, that will certainly save the state of California a lot of money.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:12 | 6764454 Never One Roach
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Very practical minded. I like that. When can you start?

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:22 | 6764493 Pool Shark
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Nothing to worry about,

Soon, Sacramento won't have any water at all due to the California Drought.

 

Problem solved...

 

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:30 | 6764513 847328_3527
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That's the last straw! I'm switching back to my 1 liter of Roundup/day. At least we know that's safe.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:47 | 6764564 Urban Roman
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I once knew a guy who'd mix bleach and rubbing alcohol to make THM (aka chloroform) on purpose, to inhale and get high.

Lost touch with him about forty years ago, though. I doubt that he is still alive.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 17:05 | 6764900 RafterManFMJ
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Fondly pets, strokes, and polishes his Berkey Water Filter.

 

Note, that's "Berkey" not "Berkeley.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 17:19 | 6764939 Implied Violins
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Yup, they make the best. I smuggled one into CA. Why smuggle, you ask? Because they are ILLEGAL in CA (all but one model, anyway). Something about not being 'up to snuff' with CA regulations or something.

Just another way they are making sure we get our dose of deadly chemicals by land, air, and sea. I DO NOT CONSENT

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 19:18 | 6765291 Scooby Dooby Doo
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I need permission to sue the fucking government? Hey whatever, who's paying the final bill anyway?

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 22:04 | 6765838 DeadFred
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You can buy them online (I did) through EBay where individuals are buying them from the company, marking them up and reselling to us Californicators. See the state DOES foster entrepreneurship.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 12:44 | 6767887 inhibi
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About a month ago I started distilling 12 gallons of water every week in my distiller I usually distill Absinthe and shine in.

 

The residue left in the boiler is disgusting...normally I would expect white calcium deposits. Looks like Chicago water isnt as great as people say.

 

There was a distinct smell of chlorine, and the water is an off color milky yellow-white. Its absolutely disusting.

 

The distilled water has a slight herbal taste (from all the previous runs lol) but otherwise is amazing. Its so clear that its actually visibly different from the tap water.

 

I can only imagine how much crap is in the water. Even though the water coming out of the treatment plants is supposedly great, I just imagine that water having to travel through an odd 50 miles of pipe in Chicago, which hasn't spent a nickel on infrastructure since the 80's.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:12 | 6766187 Dixie Rect
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The problem would be solved if Moonbeam and the group of Asshats that call themselves the state legislature would be guzzling it.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:51 | 6766254 o r c k
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But they'll all get re-elected won't they?

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 15:04 | 6764605 Lost My Shorts
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Hey, that's cruel.  They were just trying to save money on water treatment so there would be enough money to pay their pensions.  Isn't that what we want government to do, save money?

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 16:17 | 6764801 nmewn
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Prolly about the same time they were trying to ban backyard bar-b-q's...cuz...car-sin-a-giiinz...or sumpin It was never the grilling of red meat at all that was causing cancer, it was washing off the lettuce ;-)

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:44 | 6764556 sam i am
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Week Five of the Russian Intervention in Syria: The Russians Are Digging in

http://thesaker.is/week-five-of-the-russian-intervention-in-syria-the-ru...

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 15:10 | 6764619 BarkingCat
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As much as I like a Russians in Syria story, what does it have to do with drinking water in Kalifornia???

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 16:16 | 6764795 tenpanhandle
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We could bottle Sacramento water and air drop it into desert in Syria.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 17:11 | 6764920 StychoKiller
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Isn't chemical warfare banned by the UN or somethin'?

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:53 | 6764400 junction
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Now we know why the Mayor of Sacramento drinks only bottled water. 

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:30 | 6764516 Chupacabra-322
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That Pure Evil Scum Fuck Psychopath should be forced to drink Acid.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 22:11 | 6765863 Recidivism
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Yeah!! Free Coca Cola for all public servants!

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 15:18 | 6764628 NidStyles
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If you knew about all the shit that is in the centralized water systems, you would too. 

 

The birth control alone is worth avoiding. 

 

In the city I live in there are 5 Million people. Now half of those people are women. With half being women, and the birth control pill being used by 1/3rd of those women. 

 

So we have 1/6th of the population taking these drugs that are essentially artificial estrogen. Now only about 5% of those pills are absorbed every day when those women take them. So 95% of them, which is 19 doses, are flushed through the body and into the water system. None of our water treatment standards are close to being able to remove all of the artificial estrogen. Say they remove about half. So in rough we have 9 doses being flushed out by about 700K women every single day. 700K X 9 = 6,300,000 doses of artificial estrogen every day in the cities water. Now the dilution rate depends on the water volume the city has at it's disposal, but even just a cursory examination of how much water a person consumes makes it evident that you're getting a sufficient quantity with each glass of tap water, even post filtration that is not RO filtration. This stuff also builds up, as not every drop of water is cooked and filtered for consumption to remove these chemicals so it's every day that total is being forced up. You can see the saturation levels by taking a glass and filling it with water and let it all evaporate to leave behind that chalky residue. Part of that residue are birth control drugs. Every city water system has this. 

See where this is going? This is likely why there were targetted usage rates for women on birth control. To ensure that the male populace is trying to fight this publicly induced attack on their biological make up, they even use tap water for many other things including the manufacturing of soda and bottled water.

 

Basically, the people of the "left" have destroyed their own water supplies with their idiocy.  

 

 

 

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 16:57 | 6764883 11b40
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Just one more thing to add to the list of reasons I am glad I have a well.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 21:19 | 6765690 Big Corked Boots
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Sorry. There are lots of pharmaceuticals in the groundwater.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 22:14 | 6765869 willwork4food
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Not if you live out in the country say 7 miles from "real" subdivisions. We worry about the farmer's use of pesticides that tend to leak into the ground water.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 11:33 | 6767484 11b40
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Not where I live....in the foot hills of the Smokies and miles from the nearest town.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 17:08 | 6764912 RafterManFMJ
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Yup, and beer is naturally estrogenic as well.

Modern mass pscyho Amurika really is a shit show; best not to think about it.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 21:50 | 6765787 PhoQ
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Those ain't Man Boobies, them's Beer Boobies.

 

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 22:14 | 6765875 willwork4food
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Wats wrong with beer boobies?

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:27 | 6766218 OldPhart
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Dees wuz urned!!

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 21:34 | 6765734 Bananamerican
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"700K X 9 = 6,300,000 doses of artificial estrogen every day in the cities water"

Meet Cait™

fridge filter for the muthafolking win!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 04:03 | 6766502 Adahy
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Well, ok, but I'm pretty sure it has electrolytes.  It's what chemically-castrated men crave!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:38 | 6766231 uhland62
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and we also know why CocaCola decided a few years back to go into the bottled water business bigtime. Forward thinking, you can't fault them on that.  

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:05 | 6764431 algol_dog
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Just another reason not to live in Sac -

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:13 | 6764463 Never One Roach
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Well, at least they balance it off eating all those $5 organic carrots and $6/can Pacific [fuki] tuna stuff.

 

That must help something, right?

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:07 | 6764440 OMG
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We dihydrogen monoxided some folks with some DBP

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 22:10 | 6765859 DeadFred
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A fascinating but true fact is that Dihydrogen Monoxide causes cancer as does Dioxygen.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 23:52 | 6766140 undertow1141
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Trees as well. Interesting isn't it.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:15 | 6764469 Deus Irate
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Ha! Ever been to Sacramento? Shithole by any other name would still smell just as foul. My feeling is this was likely an attempt at exterminating only the humans that use city water.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 15:42 | 6764694 TheReplacement
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Which would be everyone who lives in the city unless they do not shower/bath or do the dishes or laundry or water the garden or...

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 22:11 | 6765864 DeadFred
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Bakersfield is worse. Not by much but it is worse.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:26 | 6764502 Whalley World
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I would dispute that assertion.
Professor Leuren Moret UC Berkley states this pin hole problem is nationwide due the the many hot particles from Fukushima.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:37 | 6764539 AllMightyDollar
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So will there be any real accountability?  Will anyone go to jail because of this?  Sacramento will hope it will fade from view and go away ... And then when it doesn't, they will pin it on one guy in the department - Mid management level.  He may or may not have even known about what was happening.  He will fight it at first, then his lawyer will tell him to take the deal preserving his pension and voila, scapegoat remedy.

IF A PRIVATE COMPANY WAS IN CHARGE AND DID THIS, MASSIVE HELL TO PAY.  NO ACCOUNTABILITY AT ANT LEVEL IN GOVERNMENT.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 15:14 | 6764630 BarkingCat
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I can imagine someone who got cancer from this might go and shoot someone in city hall..... or wait,  they might not be able to buy a firearm... Now I see why they pass these laws.... oh well, a sharp (or dull) butcher knife will work pretty well also ... and will be much more personal.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 15:58 | 6764737 Ace Ventura
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The kicker? Even if someone WERE to run with this and gather the necessary momentum and MONEY to take on city hall.....and even if they somehow miraculously WON their case....there would STILL be no accountability, because the city would serve up some poor mid-level hack and pin it ALL on him.....and any damages awarded to the victims of this horror would be paid for by.....wait for it.....the SAME POOR TAXPAYERS WHO ARE VICTIMIZED BY THIS CRIMINALITY.

See how that works? Even if the sheeple 'win'....they still lose. Seriously, you can't make this shit up!

ROLL THE GUILLOTINES.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 17:11 | 6764921 RafterManFMJ
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It sounds like there's a few noobs on here, surprised by this "lack of accountability." Allow me to help you with a maxim I've personally developed:

"The only justice you'll see in this world, is justice you administer yourself."

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 19:20 | 6765298 Government need...
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The good theater you find @ the local courthouse.  The good justice gets sold @ the gun shop.  Welcome to Murrica!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:45 | 6766242 uhland62
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Volkswagen can use that as a defence maybe? Now I understand why the Americans hate their government so much. Strangely enough, Soviet people, after Stalin, did not have the same intensity of hate for their government; I knew a couple through cultural contacts. They obviously had no enthusiasm for their government but the intensity of hate for the government in America is unique. 

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 17:34 | 6764986 Buster Cherry
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Using them as grounding conductors doesn't help either.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:34 | 6764339 38BWD22
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Democrats run California...

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:36 | 6764345 Philo Beddoe
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...into the sewer. 

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:48 | 6764380 Neil Patrick Harris
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The obvious outcome of a 1 party system.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:13 | 6764450 Arnold
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Flocculation is common use, and seldom in pre drinking water, mostly post 'use'.

This one I  am not familiar with.

It does beg a question, who in their demented mind is still using tap water for drinking in Mexicali?

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:15 | 6764466 Never One Roach
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Feinsteen/Piglosi, 2016!

 

Yes we Kan!

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 15:16 | 6764634 BarkingCat
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drinking from the sewer might have been safer.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 16:02 | 6764755 Ace Ventura
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You might be surprised to learn that many of those same Kaliphonians are doing just that. Many localities now 'process' sewer water into drinking water. So how awesome is that....caring gubbermint is 'recycling' their poo-water and making it 'safe' to drink, and then piping it right back to the people's faucets.

Yay progress!

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 16:33 | 6764836 BarkingCat
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If you look at many cities on the major river in the US they have water intake above the city and sewer outflow below.

The next city does the same thing. ... and so on and on.

I lived in the Midwest for 3 years and only drank bottled water and it did not come anywhere from the Midwest. Too many farms there that use chemical fertilizer and pesticides. I figured some of that must seep into the water tables.

The city itself of course got the water from the river.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:37 | 6764346 Skateboarder
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I was at UC Davis next door from '06-'10. Among myself and my peers, women included, many of us experienced hair loss. Now with a cancer cherry on top? Shit's fucked.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:12 | 6764455 Arnold
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Not just male pattern baldness eh?

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 19:20 | 6765299 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Scateboardings more dangerous than drinking water. Just sayim....

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:29 | 6764511 A Nanny Moose
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There's also the Superfund site known as McClellan AFB (right next door to Rio Linda), where they use to make the pretty, glow-in-the-dark aircraft gauges. Supposedly so radioctive, that FedGov cannot even give it to Sacramento.

Fuck the EPA. Gummint is the biggest, and most murderous polluter on the goddamed planet.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:38 | 6764349 Ms No
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It's beginning to feel like we are just a bunch of ants under foot.  They have been doing these things for a long time but now it's right out in the open.  Reverse osmosis seems to be a necessity in these times... don't forget to add minerals.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 21:20 | 6765697 Christophe2
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I prefer using distilled water (to which I also add minerals back in) because there is no fragile RO membrane to worry about with distillation: it works all the time, without any degradation in the quality of the output.

It does cost more per liter (1 KWh = 5-10 cents), but the machine costs a lot less to buy, doesn't need to be hooked up, and you don't have to replace any filter parts, normally.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:39 | 6764352 Platinum
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It really doesn't surprise me that they chose Sacramento, except that they could have experimented on Stockonians instead, as you can't give cancer to cancer.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:16 | 6764476 Arnold
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I believe that there is a secondary hallucinogen effect, upon closer study.

 

alright, alright I'm done now.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:40 | 6764353 The Carbonator
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Assault Water.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 17:17 | 6764934 RafterManFMJ
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Pretty clear why they make attempts to ban the collection of rainwater falling from nature's distillery, right?

You gotta drink your poison supplied from the state!

 

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:40 | 6764354 El Vaquero
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Glad I'm on a well.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:48 | 6764368 22winmag
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It had better be deep and clean or the MTBE will get you!

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:47 | 6764375 divedivedive
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We also are on a well - but there are a lot of septic sytems in the area. We installed a reverse osmosis system in the kitchen.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 16:23 | 6764811 tenpanhandle
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Many places in California Central Valley, during normal water year, water table reaches septic system level i.e. surface.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:00 | 6764421 ToSoft4Truth
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Frack’in well, eh.  We’re going to get you and your little dog too!  

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 15:24 | 6764655 shovelhead
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I always loved your flying monkeys.

I hope you bring them with you to California so they can meet their porch brethren.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:42 | 6764360 Amish Hacker
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Were these the same geniuses who told the petro-frackers it would be OK to dump their waste products into a clean aquifer, in the middle of a drought?

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/Waste-Water-from-Oil-Fracking-I...

From now on, beer only.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 17:35 | 6764989 Faeriedust
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Different individuals.  Same species.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:43 | 6764365 adonisdemilo
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Bureaucratic bunglers are everywhere.

Lock the bastards up, all of them

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:48 | 6764378 knotjammin2
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No!! Locking them up is too easy and is not enough of an example.  Hang them all.  All that knew.  Then we start moving ahead.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:38 | 6764542 glenlloyd
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Locking them up is not the solution, they just become wards of the state and a drain on public coffers which area already empty.

Guillotines might be the appropriate solution here.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 15:29 | 6764669 BarkingCat
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So no real difference on them being a burden either way.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:44 | 6764366 Francis Marx
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It would have been nicer if they just delievered cancer causing steak to each resident.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:46 | 6764374 22winmag
Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:53 | 6764398 Francis Marx
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As long as it is not from the world health organization, they claim is "their" steak is Cancer causing.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:45 | 6764372 divedivedive
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I'm surprised they fessed up. Would have been a great opportunuty to blame ISIS or ISIL or DAESH or KAOS or such.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:48 | 6764383 ebworthen
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Been filtering my water for the past 20 years. 

And the "healthcare" industry puzzles at the rise in cancer.

Since the banks/corporations/insurers run .gov, any surpise here, really?

Just imagine the poor sops in China, who we exported all our manufacturing to.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:33 | 6764524 847328_3527
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Most cities in America are run by self-centered pretty greedy mayors and city council politicans who are more concerned with getting zoning changed so they can rip apart the countryside building more apartment complexes and condos then with their citizens' health. Even the water in a "progressive" left wing city like Austin was rated fairly poor quality a few years back.

 

 

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 17:18 | 6764938 RafterManFMJ
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Yup! It's amusing to see some local connected kill someone in a DUI crash, and somehow ... nothing. One big lie and scarm from the ground up.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:36 | 6764538 seek
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I've distilled about 2 gallons daily for the past 20 as well. I can actually see the shit in the water and routinely have to scrape it out of the machine.

The EPA limits on hardness, for example, are 500 ppm. To most, that seems like a small number, but when you realize a gallon is roughly 4 liters, or 4000 milliliters, 500 ppm of 4000 milliliters is 2ml -- that's a half teaspoon of "whatever" per gallon of water. While it's usually what amounts to rock (calcium and magnesium carbonate), there's loads of other nasties. At 2 gallons a day over a year, that's about 9 pounds of contaminants per year.

Yeah, don't drink the water without some serious countermeasures, folks.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 17:58 | 6766706 Anopheles
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You better not be drinking distilled water.   When you do, it pulls calcium and minerals out of your bones.

The first seawater distillation plants in the middle east about 60 years ago caused thousands of cases of rickets.  A disease/conditition which causes very soft, "bendy"  bones in just a few years in kids.   

You won't find much about this on the Internet, only in textbooks and Journals  because it almost no longer occurs because of distilled/desalinated water.   Why?  Because all desalination plants now pass their water through limestone (marble) chips to ADD minerals back into the water. 

Also,  distillation DOESN'T remove most contamination.  It ONLY removes hardness (minerals).  Contaminants like pesticides,  chemicals , drugs, evaporate with the water and condense right back into the so called "pure" water.

VERY common misconceptions.   You're doing more harm than good to yourself.  And giving distilled water to kids is devastating to their health.  

Tue, 11/10/2015 - 00:51 | 6771037 seek
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If your only source of dietary calcium to prevent rickets is water, you have far bigger problems than the water you're drinking.

Not to mention that drinking random hard water gives you zero control over the constituents of the minerals in the water, and excess of both calcium and magnesium beyond acceptable levels -- excesses that easily happen with tap water in the us -- are suspected to be contributors to a variety of diseases.

"You won't find much about..." Seriously, throw down some peer reviewed sources at a bare minimum. At least try.

For water to "pull" minerals from bones implies somehow plain water is getting direct exposure to them. It doesn't work that way, and moreso, in order for water to not absorb anything, it would have to be a fully saturated solution. You what a fully saturated solution of calcium carbonate is? Fucking seawater. There's a reason there's an upper limit to water hardness, or no one would give a shit about it; as it stands the EPA limit is about 2X what's considered the idea calcium PPM for health reasons in water..

Finally, if you had any familiarization with water distillation equipment for purification, you would know they're equipped with carbon filters on the output specifically to capture the low boiling point contaminants and VOCs.

There are no misconceptions on this end. Enjoy drinking your nine pounds of dirt.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:57 | 6764408 Government need...
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 Those fuckers brought it on themselves by electing their amoral tax, spend, and "protect the enviroment" .gov officials.  Gimmiedat free cancer.  Only in the land of the fruits'n'nuts.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 13:59 | 6764415 ToSoft4Truth
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Government knowingly did this to Flint, MI USA too.  Lead poisoned them all.  

They're all poisoned.  I may have to leave this state.  That’s gotta be Trillions of dollars to fix.  

Year before water change, state knew of risks in Flint

State and local officials knew in 2013 that without proper treatment of water drawn from the Flint River, they risked subjecting the people of Flint to lead-contaminated drinking water.

http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/columnists/nancy-kaffer/2015/11/07/fl...

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:31 | 6764518 Arnold
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Anybody left in Flint , is too stupid to live.

The Original Detroit.

 

--M Moore

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 16:07 | 6764778 ToSoft4Truth
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How many do you want?

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 22:20 | 6765895 Proctologist
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Don't assume the state would have addressed it if the locals had yelled much about it.

As for leaving, The only thing worse than bad water is no water.

Filter away!

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:39 | 6766233 OldPhart
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Speaking of Bad Water....

https://vimeo.com/143646518

 

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:07 | 6764443 MasterOfTheMult...
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Use a water filter, even if you only drink Evian, put it through a water filter, and take additional supplements as water filters also remove essential minerals present in water. Tap-water and mineral water is already contaminated with many drugs, such as oral anticontraceptives, radiological contrast fluids, diuretics, BPA from certain bottles, all the stuff that's cleared via urine and ends up in ground water and environment. Despite "war-on-[name-your-disease]", most major diseases such as heart disease and cancer are showing increased numbers, and it's not bc averyone is smoking more than before.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:09 | 6764446 Urban Roman
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All it needs is a touch of depleted Uranium for spice ...

 

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:14 | 6764465 Government need...
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Dont forget a dash of Polonium, for seasoning!

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 17:20 | 6764943 RafterManFMJ
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Not worried about that bugaboo. I've spent the past several years building an immunity to Polonium poisoning.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:11 | 6764452 yellowsub
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They're still getting away with putting flouride in the water...

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:16 | 6764473 Milton Freewater
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"Off The Grid" dosen't seem so fringe any more!

 

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:31 | 6764517 divedivedive
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We are 'almost' off the grid. We have panels with a bi-directional meter. Every month we increase our credit kwh balance. Costs us about 3 USD per month (admin fee). We also have a community well. We all contribute to the cost of operating the well based on usage. Costs us about 300 USD per year (and we have a sprinkler system).

In the US - when we ran the A/C we could easily ring up 300-400 USD per month in electric. They also dinged us for water and wastewater (which was more than water). Perhaps as much as 200 USD per month (but it included garbage pickup...).

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 15:27 | 6764663 Milton Freewater
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Bravo!  Strong work people!!

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 19:17 | 6765289 Government need...
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Beware the municipal water authority and their $500 mandatory annual well water test fee, you know, to keep your water safe!

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:18 | 6764485 Never One Roach
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"chloroform"? No wonder my cousin says he's always sleepy when he drives up to Sacramento.

 

wtf?!

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 14:27 | 6764500 NumNutt
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My brother lived in Sacramento for about 5 years during this time frame, he has been diagnosed with cancer. Which is odd as that does not run in the family. Time to call the family lawyer. ...

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 19:18 | 6765292 Government need...
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You know the trial lawyers will come out like fleas on a dog.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 15:35 | 6764681 SweetDoug
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'
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And nobody will spend a day in jail, let alone be fired, or even reprimanded.

Bygones!

•?•
V-V

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 15:44 | 6764699 Dickweed Wang
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Here we have people making a fuss about secretly adding a cancer-causing chemical to the water supply of one large city when for over half a century cities all over the USA have been adding an acknowledged POISON, sodium fluoride, to their water supplies with the public's knowledge, and support in many cases. And this practice is still going on today.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 22:10 | 6765858 SamEyeAm
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Not this shit again!

It sounds like the movie "Dr. Strangelove" from 1964.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 22:45 | 6765958 bunnyswanson
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Radiologists now work remotely, reading cases from all over the country.  Pockets of specific diseases are easily seen (MS in Florida, gallbladder disease in NY region, and more).  This was brought to my attention by a radiologist whom I worked with, and I agree with him 100%.  We are rats in a lab operated by mad scientists.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 09:57 | 6767013 Anopheles
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Very few Doctors work remotely.  They can't practice out of state unless they are LICENSED in that particular State. 

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 15:46 | 6764700 TheReplacement
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Funny, I use seaweed to drop particles out of fermenting beer.  Apparently they don't have seaweed in Commiefornia.

But I am sure they have plenty of chemical waste for which they need to find ways of disposing.  Oligarchs need to sell that stuff to someone.  Pols on the take are usually pretty reliable for not asking too many questions.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 17:24 | 6764954 RafterManFMJ
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Bingo.

You feed all organic shit you don't want to your pigs, and they are happy to have it.

Same principle.

Take craisens - used to be fed to pigs and landfilled after the cranberries were juiced ... but with enough corn syrup added, it's now a treat you can buy the entire family! Eat up, my piggies, eat up!!

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 15:51 | 6764717 Duc888
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Trust Government.

 

Yup.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 15:54 | 6764728 Last of the Mid...
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I like estrogens in the water. I save on internet by not having to look at porn while playing with my wee wee. I just fondle my new breasts and whammo deal is done. Also you failed to mention the SSRI's that keep me calm and in a good mood. However, the price of bras is a big negative.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:59 | 6766272 Joe A
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Bisphenol A, phthalates (both softeners of plastic, used in plastics and in cash register receipts), Glyphosate, etc. are endocrine disruptors. Recent research shows that they can also penetrate easily via the skin. The stuff is everywhere.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 16:26 | 6764820 BustainMovealota
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Get you an RO filter

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 16:49 | 6764871 Buster Cherry
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How much tap water does it take to make a gallon of RO water?

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 17:34 | 6764987 Joebloinvestor
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Conversion is usually 3 for 1

 

3 gallons of tap to make 1 gallon of R/O.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 16:27 | 6764824 BarkingCat
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Open the lid on the water tank of your toilet and look inside.

That is what you are drinking if you do not purify your water.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 18:00 | 6765057 DrData02
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NOBODY goes to jail.  Nobody is shot or otherwise retributed by someone who was harmed by their intentional actions.  I wonder how those in power will (continue to) act tomorrow?

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 18:30 | 6765134 WillyGroper
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where's Erin Brockovich?

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 18:43 | 6765164 Publicus_Reanimated
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You need to update this the Speaker of the State Assembly is giving the agencies cover already.  Has publicly stated the city of Sacramento did not break the law.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 18:52 | 6765193 Solio
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The mental midgets are here (there!)

 

To save or make more blood money anything goes, too bad about the victims.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 19:21 | 6765303 Government need...
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Looks like Wal Mart has found its next 'Everyday low price' municipal bottled water source! 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:34 | 6765849 SantaClaws
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It's already Wal-Mart's source.  I recall reading a report within the past year, perhaps here on ZH, to the effect that Wal-Mart obtained at least some of its bottled water from the Sacramento municipality's supply.  Wal-Mart was charged $1 (one dollar) per something like 750 gallons of municipal water.

 

The report came out as part of the discussions about California's disappearing water supplies.

 

Update -- Here's the cite:  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-11/how-wal-mart-makes-instant-6572...

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 21:12 | 6765666 The_Prisoner
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Putin's fault.

Ever seen a commie drink a glass of water, Mandrake?

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 21:15 | 6765677 Westcoastliberal
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aluminum chlorohydrate (ACH) is the active ingredient in anti-persperants.  Hell, I won't even let my hairy arm pits get close to that shit!

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 21:51 | 6765793 billybobtx
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Hmmm I have been feeling extra stunning and heroic lately...

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 21:56 | 6765802 sgorem
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why am i not fucking astonished at this story. looks like suckramento was just tryin to make a quick killin' off this little venture. someone other than the people who drink this shit needs to fuckin die. (there, i'll go ahead and get the green arrows started, thanks in advance:)

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 22:21 | 6765899 FIAT CON
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Yes how far we have come, in most major cities you must wear a helmet while riding a bike, but they can feed you glow in the dark water to drink.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:32 | 6766178 onmail1
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Evil CabalShylocksA$$LickerLiarHomObamma can do anything to please his paymasters (pharma & biotech) who paid him (bribe) election funding. 

By making making people sick with cancer , let them come for costly treatment with skyrocketing medicines prices, fleece them & make money   

$ix

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Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:13 | 6766190 Milton Keynes
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Alum has been used since Roman times as a water treatment agent, and for about 200 years

used as a clotting agent. My dad used to use a styptic pencil to clot shaving cuts.

 

 

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 00:47 | 6766248 OldPhart
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That shit stung!!  I quit using it in my teens.  Simpler to use a piece of TP, and much less painful.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 01:02 | 6766281 Joe A
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if the EPA standard for THMs is 80 ppb then that stuff is pretty toxic indeed.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 07:28 | 6766645 NoBillsOfCredit
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Poisoning people is a crime. Let a jury decide.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 10:47 | 6767222 Reader1
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Something's wrong here.  The facts of the story don't add up.  When I looked up Westlake Neighborhood in Sacramento, it appears to be an upper-middle class neighborhood of 30-40yr olds with kids and with a median income of 70K.  I thought we only used the soft-kill stuff on poor neighborhoods.  WTF?  I'm OK with the govt killing off the hoipolloi, but I get outraged when they indiscriminately poison the rest of us.  Leave the H2O alone and put all the toxins in the McDs and Popeyes, Lee press-on nails, and the malt beverages.  Thank-you.

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